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Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_mobile_ad_1'); })Jack Kirby's meta-series where he developed an entire cosmic mythology involving the New Gods of the utopia of New Genesis and the dystopia of Apokolips. Collectively, they were called The Fourth World.New Genesis and Apokolips were once one planet, but were split apart during the Old Gods' Ragnarok. New Genesis is ruled by the benevolent Highfather, while Apokolips is kept in the rocky fist of Darkseid. Before the beginning of the series, there was "The Pact," where to keep the peace between Apokolips and New Genesis, Highfather and Darkseid trade sons. Darkseid's son, Orion (pictured right), grows up to wield the "Astro-Force" and knows that he is destined to kill Darkseid in battle. Darkseid, in turn, raises Scott Free, who rebels against him and becomes Mister Miracle (and ends up marrying Big Barda, a reformed former member of Darkseid's Female Furies).Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_mobile_ad_2'); })Other characters on New Genesis include: Lightray, Orion's cheerful and optimistic friend; Forager, one of the evolved bug people of New Genesisnote who is secretly a New God himself in disguise; and the Forever People, essentially hippies FROM SPACE.Other characters on Apokolips include: Desaad, Darkseid's chief Torture Technician and dirty old man; Granny Goodness, who specializes in brainwashing people and having the evil Female Furies; Kalibak, Darkseid's other son and second-in-command; and Parademons.Then there are Metron, a neutral figure if there ever was one, and the Black Racer, Death on skis.Other concepts of note include the Source, an ancient metaphysical energy-thingy that's connected to the Source Wall; Mother Boxes, living magical computers that some of the New Gods have; Boom Tubes, teleportation tunnels by which the New Gods travel through space in a degree of minutes; and the Anti-Life Equation, which Darkseid is forever seeking.Advertisement:propertag.cmd.push(function() { proper_display('tvtropes_mobile_ad_3'); })The original Fourth World books were: New Gods Mister Miracle The Forever People Superman's Pal, Jimmy OlsenIt may be also important to note that the New Gods was abruptly canceled before Kirby could finish it, in part because only Mister Miracle caught on with readers (and even then got canceled several issues later). The New Gods and Mr Miracle were revived in the late '70s by DC minus Kirby's involvement and continued the original numbering but were cancelled in the "Great DC Implosion", with New Gods' last issues being published in "Adventure Comics" (as well as an arc on "Justice League of America" designed to bring Darkseid back).Kirby was brought back to give his own official ending to the franchise, as part of a deluxe format reprinting of the eleven issues of New Gods that Kirby produced but the whole thing fell apart due to editorial interference (Kirby was forbidden from killing Darkseid and Orion off... maybe, some sources say otherwise). What ultimately came about was a new story called "Even Gods Must Die", which was a lead-in to the graphic novel "The Hunger Dogs", which suffered extensive executive meddling but offered a semi-decent ending to the series as Kirby (per DC's demands) ended his story with Darkseid overthrown by his slaves.Later writers revived the characters and concepts, though with a great deal of decay in concept as only Darkseid and Mr. Miracle caught on with fans (with Orion and Big Barda tagging along). These stories included the original 1970's Secret Society of Super-Villains, The Great Darkness Saga, Rock of Ages, ''Legends'', ''Cosmic Odyssey'', ''Genesis'', Seven Soldiers, The Death of the New Gods, Countdown to Final Crisis, and finally Final Crisis, which slammed the door on the New Gods once and for all, while giving Darkseid a hell of a send-off as the Villain Decay got shrugged off of him on his way out the door. However, after the New 52, they were all (presumably) brought back to life thanks to Cosmic Retcon. Darkseid serves as, of all things, the Starter Villain for the Justice League, and his invasion of Earth is what leads to their formation. Fittingly, he also served as the final villain of that particular Justice League run, in the "Darkseid War" story arc.Before that though, when Kenner Toys had the Super Powers toyline in the 1980s, they used a number of Kirby's New Gods characters as action figures and Kirby finally got some sort of a direct payoff for his creativity. He also contributed to the tie-in comic, and it even seems roughly in continuity with his original stories.Some of the characters (Orion, Scott Free, Big Barda) were brought in for the Kingdom Come story (after all, who wasn't?).Mister Miracle, Barda, Oberon, Lightray, and Orion have all served in the Justice League of America at various times.Because Jimmy Olsen was one of the original Fourth World books, and Superman guest stars in the first issue of The Forever People, the whole New Gods saga has had close ties to Superman since the beginning, and the 1990's Superman: The Animated Series firmly cemented the two mythoi together. These days, Darkseid tends to be depicted fighting Superman and/or the Justice League more often than he is shown fighting Orion.Characters from the Fourth World have been featured in several DC adaptations; usually those involving Superman. Super Friends - A few appearances scattered across episodes, including Darkseid. DC Animated Universe: Superman: The Animated Series - Superman's dealings with Apokolips and New Genesis forms the major Myth Arc of the show. Justice League and Justice League Unlimited - Continuing from Superman: The Animated Series, characters from the comics appear scattered across various episodes, proving to be among the most difficult for the characters to deal with. Batman: The Brave and the Bold Smallville - Forms the Myth Arc of season 10, though with much alteration in concept. Justice League: War - An Origin Story for the Justice League as they have to deal with an invasion from Apokolips. Like the comics, it connects the origin of Cyborg to Mother Box technology along with a mixture of other advanced technology. Young Justice - Apokoliptian technology is seen throughout, with one episode dedicated to the Forever People. Darkseid is seen in the last episode as a sequel hook to the third season. The third season uses more of the world but it is going to play a bigger role in the fourth season with Darkseid as the Big Bad. Justice League Action - The Justice League confront Apokoliptians in several episodes, and Mister Miracle and Big Barda play a central role in one episode. DC Extended Universe: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Darkseid's omega symbol is seen in Batman's nightmare, a Mother Box rebuilds a crippled Victor Stone into Cyborg, and a hologram of Steppenwolf is seen in the Ultimate Edition. Wonder Woman - In a home video-only post-credits scene, Etta Candy gathers Steve Trevor's teammates to go on a secret mission to obtain a Mother Box (the one that would create Cyborg one century later). Justice League - Steppenwolf is the Big Bad. His scheme is to find the three Mother Boxes scattered around the Earth to perform Hostile Terraforming on the planet, and the Justice League gathers to stop him. Darkseid is mentioned and it's presumably him who beams Steppenwolf back on Apokolips with a Boom Tube. Zack Snyder's Justice League (a new version of the above film) will feature Darkseid as well as several of the Apokoliptians. Director Ava DuVernay has been attached to a film adaptation of the title (likely set within the DCEU), which will be co-written by her and Tom King, who wrote the acclaimed 2017 — 2018 Mister Miracle series. She has confirmed that Scott and Barda will be the protagonists with Darkseid as the villain.
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Especially interesting here because it comes off so well. These are Aliens Speaking English, and they're breaking it down for the foolish humans.
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I Was Quite a Looker: Granny Goodness.
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Darker and Edgier: Our hero enters the scene, confesses to (presumably mild) off-screen torture, then gloats over his fallen enemy as he slowly and deliberately batters him to death on screen, pausing only to angst about the horror of war and his own hidden inner darkness. Pretty dark and edgy for a DC comic by Jack Kirby ("Spawn") from 1971 (in the original *New Gods* run). The next comic, "The Glory Boat", underlines the idea that while New Genesis gods like Lightray are powerful, only savage fighters like the Apokolips-born Orion are truly effective warriors. Then "The Pact" shows the war between Apokolips and New Genesis escalating to the point where both sides are fighting on a planet-destroying scale.
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Order Versus Chaos: With Apokolips representing Order and New Genesis Chaos.
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The Force: The Source. In fact, rumor has it the Force from Star Wars was actually based on this.
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Kryptonite Factor: New Gods are only vulnerable to "Radion", a specific radiation. Darkseid eventually kills Orion with a time-traveling radion bullet in Final Crisis, and Darkseid is shot with that same bullet by Batman.
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Polluted Wasteland: Apokolips consists of "fire pits" continually fueled by slaves.
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Spiritual Successor: To Kirby's earlier Tales of Asgard series. New Gods was originally supposed to be a direct sequel until Kirby jumped ship to DC. In one chapter, a wanderer on New Genesis finds the remains of the final battle from Tales including some broken weapons and armor.
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More Than Mind Control
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Fantastically averted by Mister Miracle Scott Free, who basically broke every attempt at More Than Mind Control Apokolips could throw at him, with the result being not only his escape but his wife's Heel–Face Turn.
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Beauty = Goodness
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Beauty = Goodness: Most of New Genesis is an unspoiled paradise, and the one major city, Supertown, is sleek and futuristic with abundant gardens and parks; Apokolips is an industrial wasteland with multiple fire-spouting craters that are each a significant portion of the planet's radius. The trope generally applies to the characters as well, with the good New Genesites being handsome/beautiful and the evil Apokaliptians being mostly ugly or deformed. There are some notable exceptions: Some of the (evil) Female Furies are buff but attractive. Orion (a good guy, with, admittedly, severe anger management issues) is ugly; in-story he's so ugly that he often wears a half-mask to conceal his face. He is of Apokoliptian origin, being the son of Darkseid himself; his goodness is due to him being raised on New Genesis by Highfather Izaya from a fairly young age. Glorious Godfrey is universally considered in-story to be extremely handsome and charismatic but is thoroughly evil. His sister Amazing Grace is also evil but beautiful. In the hands of a kind artist, Dan "Terrible" Turpin looks like the sort of guy you'd cast Danny Devito to play; in Kirby's original art, you might be excused for thinking he was a shaved gorilla in a suit. He's very definitely a good guy. Darkseid's uncle Steppenwolf is usually depicted as reasonably handsome (but with a Beard of Evil). The same applies to Kanto, Darkseid’s most efficient assassin.
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Amazonian Beauty
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Amazonian Beauty: Most of the Female Furies qualify, but especially Big Barda.
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Darkseid's uncle Steppenwolf is usually depicted as reasonably handsome (but with a Beard of Evil). The same applies to Kanto, Darkseid’s most efficient assassin.
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Rogues Gallery Transplant: Darkseid started off as a New Gods villain, and still is, but he is now better known as a Superman foe. Currently, he’s considered a villain for either the Justice League or the DCU as a whole.
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Statuesque Stunner: Big Barda.
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Sky Surfing: Mister Miracle and his disc thingies. The Black Racer as well, what with the skis and all.
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Even Evil Has Standards: The Apokoliptian New God Sleez was so depraved and flat out disgusting that he repulsed even Darkseid who previously had him as an aide before growing disenchanted by Sleez's petty cruelties and permanently banished him to Earth.
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Heart Is an Awesome Power
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Heart Is an Awesome Power. Villainous example, and again, Glorious Godfrey. How dangerous could someone who is a goodlooking blond with tremendous powers of persuasion possibly be? There's no way a cowardly wimp like him could be a threat. HA HA HA— No. Legends (DC) showed just how powerful a talent like that could be.
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Poorly Disguised Pilot: The New Gods started appearing in Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen. It was the best thing that ever happened to the title.
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Born in the Wrong Century: Sonny Sumo, aka that guy who had the Anti-Life equation in his head. Darkseid ironically rectifies this.
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Our Giants Are Different or Our Titans Are Different: The Promethean Giants or Source Titans are massive beings who were chained to a giant wall of asteroids for eternity for trying to locate the Source. The parallels to the Norse Jotnar and Greek Titans are fairly obvious.
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Armed Legs: Stompa's anti-matter boots.
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Bittersweet Ending: How The Hunger Dogs turns out. New Genesis is destroyed but the floating city of the New Gods escapes in time and is moving through space to spread the New Genesis message across the cosmos. Darkseid succeeds in killing Himon but Orion escapes with his mother Tiggra and betrothed Bekka with him. Darkseid has resurrected his inner circle but they are all pale reflections of their former selves. Apokolips is on the brink of revolution and, though Darkseid will eventually stomp it out, he lives on as a sad despot alone and unloved without New Genesis to direct his loathing towards anymore.
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Fluffy the Terrible
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Fluffy the Terrible: Granny Goodness. Someone with that name can't possibly be evil, right? Right?
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Always Chaotic Evil
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Always Chaotic Evil: Depending on the Writer, the population of Apokolips is this. This is implicitly not the case in Kirby's original conception, though - rather they're almost hopelessly brainwashed by the brutality of Darkseid's regime. Much like Tolkien, it seems Kirby was uncomfortable with the idea of an irretrievably Always Chaotic Evil people, and so The Power of Love trumps Darkseid's conditioning every time.
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Distant Sequel
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There's a significant implication that New Gods is a Distant Sequel to Kirby's run on The Mighty Thor. The first comic opens with the death of the "Old Gods", which includes a very familiar silhouette of a certain Thunderer.
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Scenery Porn: It was drawn by Jack Kirby, after all.
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Splash Panel: Kirby loved using these. The opening of "New Gods" is one of the most famous double-page splashes.
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Big Good: The Highfather. After his death this position is taken over by Takion. And of course, the Source is ultimate universe-creating good of the series. At least until the Death of the New Gods arc.
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Laughing Mad: Mad Harriet.
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Golden Age
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The Newsboy Legion and the Golden Guardian were more traditional Legacies; the Newsboys were sons of the original Golden Age versions, and the Guardian was a clone. (A later Retcon would render the Newsboys clones, as well.)
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Gods Need Prayer Badly: In Walt Simonson's run on Orion, he had the title character deliver a Take That! to the concept as well as some detail into how the New Gods have taken advantage of the concept.
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Orc Raised by Elves: Orion is this, being part of an experiment/peace deal that also included Raised by Orcs. Scott Free was the son of one of the benevolent deities and was given to be raised by the Evil Overlord Darkseid. Darkseid's son, Orion, was raised in his place. Both of them grow up to be heroes.
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Beeping Computers
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Beeping Computers: The Mother Box's "ping!"
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Early Installment Weirdness
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Early Installment Weirdness: At first Scott Free used to be at least as tall as Big Barda. That situation reversed in the 80's.
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Lotus-Eater Machine
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Lotus-Eater Machine: The Lump: a catatonic creature that can Mind Rape you with scenarios and mental images once you're connected to it.
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Hate Plague
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Hate Plague: Courtesy of the Paranoid Pill from Dr. Bedlam, which he unleashes on an apartment building and turns its inhabitants into terrified, irrational mobs that try to kill Mister Miracle because they think he's a vampire.
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Enforced Cold War
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Enforced Cold War: The Pact. It doesn't really work.
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Brown Note
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Although originally, the Equation itself wasn't a Brown Note, it just made what you say a Brown Note.
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Heel–Face Turn
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Heel–Face Turn: Barda starts off as a loyal minion of Darkseid before her feelings for Scott Free cause her to reconsider her loyalties.
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A Storm Is Coming
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A Storm Is Coming: During Jack Kirby's run, someone warns Darkseid about an oncoming storm. Darkseid answers, "I am the storm!"
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Kirby Dots
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Kirby Dots: Of course.
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Purple Prose
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Purple Prose: In spades. Check the Page Quote for a sampler. John Byrne's Darkseid / Galactus crossover was a tribute to Jack Kirby, and was stuffed full of Purple Prose Ham-to-Ham Combat.
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Meaningful Name
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Meaningful Name: Everyone?
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Punny Name
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Punny Name: Scott Free. For an escape artist. It was originally given to him ironically by Granny Goodness, to remind him that he'll never be free. The lesson didn't take.
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The Grim Reaper
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The Grim Reaper: The Black Racer. Interestingly enough, he had a human form of a paraplegic Vietnam vet. He was also a Legacy Character - the Vietnam vet was given the role by the previous Black Racer, who returned to the Source.
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Fully Absorbed Finale
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Fully Absorbed Finale: The finale of the Gerry Conway Return Of The New Gods revival was resolved in Adventure Comics after the great DC Implosion. The entire New Gods mythos had one too in Final Crisis by Grant Morrison.
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If You're So Evil, Eat This Kitten
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If You're So Evil, Eat This Kitten: When recruiting her, Darkseid commands Granny Goodness to prove her loyalty to him by killing her longtime faithful hound. She does it without question, despite it tearing her up inside. Part of Mister Miracle’s backstory as a citizen of Apokolips is that, even though he’s a capable fighter and clever strategist, his inability to eat any kittens makes him a failure.
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Put on a Bus
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Put on a Bus: Happened to the Forever People at the end of Kirby's series. Also happened to Mister Miracle and Big Barda, but they at least got to go to New Genesis. (Neither stuck)
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Hazy Feel Turn
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Hazy Feel Turn: The primary Female Furies are tricked by Barda into helping her and Scott take on Granny Goodness halfway through the original Mister Miracle run. They then return to Earth with Scott and Barda for a large chunk of the rest of the series though are still obstensively bad guys. After the series’ end, they go back to being minions of Darkseid.
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Black and White Morality
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Black-and-White Morality: New Genesis is unambiguously good while Apokolips is totally evil.
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom: New Genesis is destroyed in The Hunger Dogs though the New Gods escape its destruction.
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Raised By Rival
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Raised by Rival: An uneasy peace between New Genesis' Highfather and Apokolips' Darkseid is cemented by the two trading sons to be raised by the other. Darkseid's cruel parenting resulted in both sons hating him.
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Sentient Cosmic Force
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Sentient Cosmic Force: The Source. The Gods, and possibly everything, originate from it and will return to it upon death. It emanates from beyond a galaxy-sized wall, which it would be a very bad idea to try and breach. New Genesis natives can draw on it to power some of their tech, like Mother Boxes. There is speculation that it inspired The Force from Star Wars.
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Evil Matriarch
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Evil Matriarch: Granny Goodness is this, put in a blender with a hardcore dominatrix, and turned up to eleven.
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Magitek
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Magitek: Another alternative interpretation, embraced by Grant Morrison and (arguably) Kirby himself.
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Above Good and Evil
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Above Good and Evil: Metron doesn't take any side, though it doesn't stop him from aiding the good guys against Darkseid any chance he gets. The main reason he's considered neutral is because in the early days of the war, he helped Darkseid develop boom tube technology, in exchange for the raw materials he needed for his Moebius Chair. Since then, he's mainly been seen aiding the good guys (perhaps out of remorse?), though he's worked with Darkseid on occasion since as well, despite Darkseid never making any secret of what fate he intends for Metron. It's partly that Metron's primary motivation is For Science!, and partly because Darkseid and Metron have few intellectual equals who can stand them for long.
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World of Ham
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World of Ham: Just read the quote on the top of the page.
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Lawyer-Friendly Cameo
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Captain Victory and the Galactic Rangers, the creator-owned Kirby series published by Pacific in 1981. As the series goes on, it slowly becomes apparent that Captain Victory is Orion's son. He even inherits the Astro-Harness, and Victory's grandfather and greatest enemy, Blackmass of the planet Hellikost, is a disembodied Darkseid. A limited-series revival in 2014 by Joe Casey finally made this all but explicitly the case.
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Evil Genius
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Esak starts of as a child in tutelage to Metron before becoming an Evil Genius that helps Darkseid blow up New Genesis.
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Athens and Sparta
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Athens and Sparta: The proto-planet divides into a warlike Mordor run by Darkseid called Apokolips and a verdant green planet called New Genesis.
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Big Bad
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Big Bad: Darkseid. Not just for the New Gods, but the rest of the universe.
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Magic-Powered Pseudoscience
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Magic Powered Pseudo Science: The alternative to the Sufficiently Advanced Alien view.
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Villains Out Shopping
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Villains Out Shopping: Getting mugged and just analyzing the experience, or working the register at Burger Fool... Darkseid had a lot of free time. In the original comics, he tours an amusement park. Granted, it was one controlled by Apokolips but he seems genuinely amused when a pair of people mistake him for a guy in costume. And then there was that time Darkseid wore a costume... of course, that was part of a plan to get close to a human whose mind contained the Anti-Life Equation.
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MindControl
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Mind Control: What the Anti-Life Equation gives to the being who can solve and use it. The Anti-Life Equation is probably one of the worst versions of mind control as it works by proving to those subjected to it that there is no purpose to living and no reason to go on so they willingly give up their free will and selves to become nothing more than extensions of the will of the one controlling the equation. It's implied that even if you couldn't get infected by the equation via Mind Reading (trying to read the mind of someone infected by the anti-life equation just lets in into your mind) you wouldn't be able to read any thoughts or see any memories because those under its control have no minds, identities, or even a self until they are freed from the equation.
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Homage
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Homage Metron was based on Leonard Nimoy. Big Barda was based on Lainie Kazan.
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Bold Inflation
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Bold Inflation: One of Kirby's trademarks! Especially interesting here because it comes off so well. These are Aliens Speaking English, and they're breaking it down for the foolish humans.
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Canon Discontinuity
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It doesn't help that it's all but Canon Discontinuity.
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Stealth Sequel
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Stealth Sequel: There's a significant implication that New Gods is a Distant Sequel to Kirby's run on The Mighty Thor. The first comic opens with the death of the "Old Gods", which includes a very familiar silhouette of a certain Thunderer. Captain Victory and the Galactic Rangers, the creator-owned Kirby series published by Pacific in 1981. As the series goes on, it slowly becomes apparent that Captain Victory is Orion's son. He even inherits the Astro-Harness, and Victory's grandfather and greatest enemy, Blackmass of the planet Hellikost, is a disembodied Darkseid. A limited-series revival in 2014 by Joe Casey finally made this all but explicitly the case.
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Physical God
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Physical God: See Depending on the Writer.
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Status Quo Is God
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Status Quo Is God: The reason DC wouldn't let Kirby kill off the New Gods (or even let Darkseid die). (Though there are some sources who say Kirby didn't want to kill them either when he wrote "The Hunger Dogs") Also the reason that Death Of The New Gods is a pretty misleading title. It doesn't help that it's all but Canon Discontinuity.
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Warrior Poet
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Warrior Poet: In the original comics several characters have elements of this, mostly because of the way it's written, but Orion and even Darkseid are known to have talked to themselves about philosophical concepts.
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Brawn Hilda
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Brawn Hilda: Stompa.
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SuperheroesInSpace
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Superheroes in Space: They are essentially an alien race of superhero gods.
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Orcus on His Throne
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Orcus on His Throne: Darkseid, usually. When he's not, well... that's bad.
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Hyperlink Story
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Hyperlink Story: The original Kirby series attempted to be this. It never quite got to the "one big story" part.
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Face–Heel Turn
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Above the Gods: The Source. The New Gods may be a race of literal gods, but the Source created the New Gods and the universe itself, and remains virtually inaccessible beyond the Source Wall.
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Xtreme Kool Letterz: An Ur-Example in comics. Many of the characters and places have very Earth-based names (usually tied to Judeo-Christian myth) but are spelled phonetically (Isaiah = Izaya, Apocalypse = Apokolips, etc) to make it less terrestrial looking.
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Omnicidal Maniac: Darkseid wants to enslave the universe or, if he can't, destroy it.
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Divine Conflict: The good, freedom-loving New Gods of New Genesis led by Highfather Izaya, and evil, oppressive New Gods of Apokolips led by Darkseid are locked in an eternal conflict with each other. It was settled through truce for a time with an exchange of Highfather's son Scott Free and Darkseid's son Orion, but when Scott escaped, Darkseid used that as a justification to restart the conflict.
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Science Fantasy
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Science Fantasy: Probably the best description of the series's genre.
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Take That!
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Take That!: Kirby's original New Gods had several "Take That!" disses against Marvel, with perhaps the biggest one being... Stan L... sorry, "Funky Flashman", the toady conman who works for Darkseid, lives in a crumbling house with a sycophantic manservant — "Houseroy" — based on Roy Thomas, gets his meagre cash by rooting around in a container shaped like Jack's head and isn't half as talented as he thinks he is. Oh, and he wears a toupée. Jack was not happy with Stan at the time.note Stan, as Roy Thomas himself later recounted, was a bit hurt by how venomous it all was, and though there was still no love lost between them, even Kirby himself seemed to regret it later. (Roy, for his part, didn't necessarily mind and considered a lot of the jokes at his expense to be Actually Pretty Funny, but felt a talented man like Jack could've vented in a more subtle or creative way.) In the Legends crossover, Glorious Godfrey used the alias "G. Gordon Godfrey", a joint parody of Watergate participant (and later radio demagogue) G. Gordon Liddy and, well, J. Jonah Jameson. During Final Crisis, Godfrey takes the form of Reverend Goode, a clear parody of greedy televangelists.
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Götterdämmerung
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Götterdämmerung: "There came a time when the Old Gods DIED!"
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TheMeaningOfLife
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The Meaning of Life: Inverted by the Anti-Life equation, which (Depending on the Writer) basically proves that life has no meaning.
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Luke, I Am Your Father
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Luke, I Am Your Father: Subverted; Orion already knows he's Darkseid's son. He does have trouble resisting his inner violence though. A reverse example with Scott Free who spends much of the original run unaware he’s the son of Highfather.
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Legacy Character
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He was also a Legacy Character - the Vietnam vet was given the role by the previous Black Racer, who returned to the Source.
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Retroactive Legacy Character: In the original comics we have the Black Racer and Mister Miracle, although their predecessors only appeared for the issue where they gave up said legacy. Later comics revealed that Infinity-Man was also a Legacy Character, and Mister Miracle would get an Affirmative Action Legacy with Shilo Norman. The Newsboy Legion and the Golden Guardian were more traditional Legacies; the Newsboys were sons of the original Golden Age versions, and the Guardian was a clone. (A later Retcon would render the Newsboys clones, as well.)
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Translation with an Agenda
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Translation with an Agenda: The Mexican editorial Novaro translated the New Gods in Spanish as the "Nuevos Ídolos". Back to English, that is "New Idols". A correct translation would have been "Nuevos Dioses". The editorial was run by conservative religious people, who would not accept to define any fictional characters as "Gods".
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Evil Orphanage Lady: Granny Goodness from Apokolips could hardly be more inappropriately named, as her job is to brainwash the children in her orphanages into becoming servile, brutal slaves of Darkseid.
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Villainous Badland, Heroic Arcadia
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Villainous Badland, Heroic Arcadia: The heroic gods live in New Genesis, a beautiful paradise world led by the wise and benevolent Highfather; the villains lurk in Apokolips, a grim, dystopian planet led by the tyrannical Darkseid.
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Amazon Brigade
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Amazon Brigade: The Female Furies.
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Bad Ass Normal: Dan Turpin.
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A God Am I: Darkseid.
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The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You
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The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You: The Black Racer knows his next target! Who is it? He? She? You? And yes, he's staring at the reader.
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From Nobody to Nightmare
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From Nobody to Nightmare: Even for a New God, Glorius Godfrey was a joke character - til Legends (DC). Granny Goodness started out as a Lowly. She became the trainer of the Female Furies and Darkseid's most effective lieutenant. Esak starts of as a child in tutelage to Metron before becoming an Evil Genius that helps Darkseid blow up New Genesis.
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Our Gods Are Different
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Our Gods Are Different: There's a case to be made for them being genuine gods, and a just-as-strong case for them just being very advanced aliens. Writers and readers have different interpretations, and for all we know Kirby intended it that way. In the "alien" column: While they have superpowers, a lot of their more miraculous abilities come from advanced technology note  The logic might be that Classical deities used technology like swords and chariots, so New Gods would have more advanced tech . For the most part, they aren't that different from Kryptonians. In the "god" column: They're more attuned to the Source than any other beings; it powers their Mother Boxes and they get prophecies from it. They also seem to be Anthropomorphic Personifications of certain concepts.
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Flanderization: Orion, Orion, Orion. As written by Kirby, he was a basically noble person who was rough around the edges and frequently struggled with his darker side and his brutal nature. A good chunk of modern writers have him being a Hair-Trigger Temper Blood Knight. Perhaps surprisingly, the same happened to Darkseid, who, in Kirby's take on the character, was rather more complex and well-rounded; in "the road to Armaghetto", the despot shows a somber, reflective side, wry humor and even restrained horror at the coming generation, which will be worse than he was. His 'evolution' into the most purely evil being in creation and designated villain for the universe seems degeneration into caricature.
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John Byrne's Darkseid / Galactus crossover was a tribute to Jack Kirby, and was stuffed full of Purple Prose Ham-to-Ham Combat.
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Rousseau Was Right: Seemingly Kirby's view of morality in the series. Darkseid and his court may be irrevocably evil, but they did not have to be. Orion is the son of the personification of tyranny itself, but was raised by a loving father and is a hero. Scott Free was raised to be a soldier of Darkseid, but maintained his free spirit and escaped, and Big Barda was a soldier who changed sides when redeemed by the power of Love. Ultimately, evil always loses, in the short run or the long.
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Take Over All Creation: Darkseid's ultimate goal.
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But Now I Must Go: This actually happened to Mister Miracle and Big Barda when the original Kirby series was cancelled.
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Anthropomorphic Personification
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In the "god" column: They're more attuned to the Source than any other beings; it powers their Mother Boxes and they get prophecies from it. They also seem to be Anthropomorphic Personifications of certain concepts.
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Sufficiently Advanced Alien
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Sufficiently Advanced Alien: See Depending on the Writer, above. They still have aspects of this regardless.
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Darkest Hour: Final Crisis. Not only for the New Gods, but for all of the DCU.
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Fad Super
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Fad Super: All over the place; much of the story was dedicated to Kirby's views on the 1970s and the way the world was going. It's mostly managed to translate into modern times, though, as most of the issues (feminism, freedom, war versus peace, nature versus nurture, the power of authority, the goodness of youth) are still pretty relevant.
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Nurture over Nature: Orion's dilemma. Fantastically averted by Mister Miracle Scott Free, who basically broke every attempt at More Than Mind Control Apokolips could throw at him, with the result being not only his escape but his wife's Heel–Face Turn.
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Depending on the Writer
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Depending on the Writer: So much. So much. Are New Genesis and Apokolips in 'our' universe or another dimension entirely? (This was lampshaded once in a Character Blog for the series Checkmate) What is the Anti-Life equation? Are the New Gods real gods or Sufficiently Advanced Aliens? Much of this is probably because a lot of the writers didn't keep up with canon or disliked certain concepts.
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Cut Short
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Cut Short: Kirby's original series; even Mister Miracle, which wasn't cancelled, still got a heavy Retool that divorced it from the New Gods mythos (until the final issue where The Bus Came Back).
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Fastest Thing Alive / int_5cfb879b
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Flaming Hair / int_5cfb879b
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Flashy Teleportation / int_5cfb879b
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Floating Continent / int_5cfb879b
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Flying Brick / int_5cfb879b
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Forced to Watch / int_5cfb879b
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Forever War / int_5cfb879b
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Four Lines, All Waiting / int_5cfb879b
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Glorious Leader / int_5cfb879b
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Go-Go Enslavement / int_5cfb879b
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God Does Not Own This World / int_5cfb879b
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Gods Need Prayer Badly / int_5330337b
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Good Shepherd / int_5cfb879b
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Grandpa God / int_5cfb879b
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Gratuitous Greek / int_5cfb879b
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Heart Is an Awesome Power / int_5cfb879b
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Higher-Tech Species / int_5cfb879b
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Home of the Gods / int_5330337b
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Hotter and Sexier / int_5cfb879b
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Human Aliens / int_5cfb879b
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I Am the Noun / int_5cfb879b
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I Don't Like the Sound of That Place / int_5330337b
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I Was Quite a Looker / int_5cfb879b
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I Will Fight No More Forever / int_5cfb879b
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If You're So Evil, Eat This Kitten / int_5cfb879b
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In the Blood / int_5cfb879b
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Inconsistent Coloring / int_5cfb879b
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Insectoid Aliens / int_5cfb879b
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Ironic Name / int_5330337b
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Jerkass Gods / int_5cfb879b
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Kryptonite Factor / int_5cfb879b
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Lawyer-Friendly Cameo / int_5cfb879b
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Let X Be the Unknown / int_5330337b
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Lethal Harmless Powers / int_5cfb879b
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Light Is Good / int_5cfb879b
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Living Shadow / int_5cfb879b
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Low Culture, High Tech / int_5cfb879b
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Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter / int_5cfb879b
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Magic Tool / int_5cfb879b
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Male Might, Female Finesse / int_5cfb879b
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Malevolent Mugshot / int_5cfb879b
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Masculine Girl, Feminine Boy / int_5cfb879b
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Matricide / int_5cfb879b
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Mordor / int_5cfb879b
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More Than Mind Control / int_5cfb879b
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My Species Doth Protest Too Much / int_5cfb879b
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Mystical High Collar / int_5cfb879b
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Names to Trust Immediately / int_5cfb879b
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Never Mess with Granny / int_5cfb879b
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One Head Taller / int_5330337b
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Only One Name / int_5cfb879b
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Orc Raised by Elves / int_5cfb879b
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Order Versus Chaos / int_5cfb879b
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Orphanage of Fear / int_5cfb879b
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Overlord Jr. / int_5cfb879b
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Pedestrian Crushes Car / int_5cfb879b
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Pirate Girl / int_5cfb879b
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Portal Door / int_5330337b
 New Gods (Comic Book)
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Power Perversion Potential / int_5cfb879b
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Primary-Color Champion / int_5cfb879b
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Progressively Prettier / int_5cfb879b
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Punished for Sympathy / int_5cfb879b
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Raised by Orcs / int_5cfb879b
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Raised By Rival / int_5cfb879b
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Reality Subtext / int_5cfb879b
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Rousseau Was Right / int_5cfb879b
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Science Fantasy / int_5cfb879b
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Sentient Cosmic Force / int_5cfb879b
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Sentient Phlebotinum / int_5cfb879b
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Shameless Self-Promoter / int_5cfb879b
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Sky Surfing / int_5cfb879b
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Slouch of Villainy / int_5cfb879b
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Space Pirates / int_5cfb879b
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Statuesque Stunner / int_5cfb879b
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Steven Ulysses Perhero / int_5cfb879b
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Strong and Skilled / int_5cfb879b
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Strong Girl, Smart Guy / int_5cfb879b
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Super Hero Gods / int_5cfb879b
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Surveillance as the Plot Demands / int_5cfb879b
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Techno Dystopia / int_5cfb879b
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Teleportation / int_5cfb879b
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Terms of Endangerment / int_5cfb879b
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The Grim Reaper / int_5330337b
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The Notable Numeral / int_5330337b
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The Old Gods / int_5cfb879b
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The '70s / int_5cfb879b
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Thememobile / int_5330337b
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Thinking Up Portals / int_5330337b
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This Looks Like a Job for Aquaman / int_5cfb879b
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Time Abyss / int_5cfb879b
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Tiny Guy, Huge Girl / int_5cfb879b
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Too Good to Last / int_5330337b
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Tron Lines / int_5cfb879b
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Trumplica / int_5cfb879b
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Tube Travel / int_5330337b
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Villainesses Want Heroes / int_5cfb879b
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Villainous Badland, Heroic Arcadia / int_5cfb879b
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Violently Protective Girlfriend / int_5cfb879b
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What Is One Man's Life in Comparison? / int_5cfb879b
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Whip It Good / int_5cfb879b
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Write Who You Know / int_5cfb879b
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Xanatos Gambit / int_5cfb879b
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You Cannot Grasp the True Form / int_5cfb879b
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Hot Scientist / int_5cfb879b
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Slave Mooks / int_5cfb879b
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Superheroes in Space / int_5330337b
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The Meaning of Life / int_5cfb879b