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The Clone Saga (Comic Book)

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The Clone Saga (Comic Book)	comment	The Clone Saga (or Spider-Clone Saga) is the name of a story-arc that ran in multiple Spider-Man titles in 1994-1996. It is technically a sequel to an earlier story but it is far better known and proverbial than the original story, and when people talk about "The Clone Saga", they are largely talking about the story published in The '90s. The First Clone Saga: Running in Amazing Spider-Man Issue 143-149 at the end of Gerry Conway's run. This was conceived by the writer as a sequel to The Night Gwen Stacy Died, and specifically as a response to the backlash caused by the decision to kill Gwen Stacy and while not intended at the outset as Conway's final story, he ultimately realized that it provided a neat Bookend to his entire run. It begins with the introduction of a new villain, the Jackal (who originally appeared in #129, otherwise known as the first appearance of The Punisher), followed by a money shot: Gwen Stacy, apparently back from the dead. As you have guessed from the article, she's a clone. Eventually, the Jackal is unmasked as Pete and Gwen's biology professor, Miles Warren, who lusted in his heart for Gwen and blamed Spidey for her death. In effect, the Jackal was a stand-in for angry fans who attacked Conway for killing Gwen and was fixated and obsessed on her. Eventually, the Jackal reveals that he created a clone of Spider-Man to fight the original. Gerry Conway's original Clone Saga was an emotional roller-coaster and farewell to Gwen Stacy and the nostalgia she represented. The Jackal died at the end of that story and was entirely forgotten about, having served his purpose as a villain. In 1981, the saga was revisited in "What If Spider-Man's Clone Had Lived" from What If?. It ends with both Peters living together, deciding to be Spider-Man on alternate days. In 1988, some 8 years before the second saga, Conway wrote "Return to Sender" in The Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 8 as a sequel to the first saga, whose entire purpose was once and for all to explain and retcon the cloning premise out of the books. In that story, published as a tie-in to a forgotten crossover event called "The Evolutionary War", it was revealed that the Jackal did not clone Gwen Stacy or Spider-Man. Instead, he borrowed stuff from the High Evolutionary and created a drug that when tested on humans and other subjects altered them to resemble the person he chose. In other words, the Jackal never cloned anyone, the Gwen who Peter met wasn't a clone but a poor blonde girl tortured and experimented and altered to resemble Gwen with some memory implants, and as Gleen Greenberg pointed out, the story essentially undid the first saga, making it virtually impossible to revive it again. The work-around for this explanation (which closed any backdoors from the first saga) would be buried in the volumes of issues in the second saga, and the writing team were content to ignore it owing to the fact that it was published in the second series rather than the Amazing Spider-Man and that the Fleeting Demographic Rule would be to their advantage. The Second Clone Saga: Or rather the Clone Saga since it entirely overshadowed the first one. It is most commonly associated with Terry Kavanagh, though many other writers were involved in the project, among them: Joey Cavalieri, Todd Dezago, J. M. Dematteis, and Tom DeFalco. It opens with the reappearance of the Spider-Man clone—dubbed the "Scarlet Spider"—who has built a life for himself and taken up the name Ben Reilly (after his Uncle Ben and Aunt May's maiden name, respectively). A brief summary: The Jackal comes back and starts playing mind games with Peter and Ben. A new villain, Kaine, is introduced and revealed to be another clone of Spider-Man; in fact, the first one made. After systematically bumping off the Spider-villains to prove his superiority (even smashing the Web of Spider-Man #124 logo to pieces and replacing it with his own), Kaine inexplicably turns "good" in an attempt to make him a star. Mary Jane gets pregnant. Aunt May and Doctor Octopus die. New villains are introduced, such as Spidercide, Judas Traveller, Scrier, and a female Doc Ock. The Jackal also dies, but not before it is 'proven' that Peter Parker is the clone and Ben Reilly was the original Spider-Man all along. Though initially crushed by the news, Peter decides to hand the mantle of Spider-Man over to Ben so that he and M.J. can start a family.It's eventually revealed that Peter really was the original Spider-Man and the whole thing was orchestrated by Norman Osborn, also back from the dead. In the end, Ben Reilly died in a manner which explicitly showed he was a clone, the Green Goblin returns to being Spider-Man's archenemy, Kaine and the Clone Gwen disappear again, and Aunt May and Dr. Octopus also come back from the dead. Oh, and Mary Jane miscarries (or does she?).In the end, for the most part nothing was changed—and as one writer lamented, a storyline intended to simplify Spider-Man ended up making things more complicated than ever. Despite this, for better or for worse, the Clone Saga is an iconic Spider-Man story and elements of it have been adapted into other media, and it ultimately served as a proving ground for later innovations. The concept of Peter Parker having a Younger and Hipper counterpart/sidekick didn't take with Ben Reilly, but it did take with Miles Morales later. Spider-Man: The Animated Series: Being made in the mid-to-late 90s around the same time as this arc, which was merchandise driven after all, the show naturally adapted features of it in the final season for "brand synergy". One arc had Mary Jane being the one cloned while bringing back Hydro-Man and the final story arc's enemy was a Spider-Man from another universe who went insane from the events and bonded with the Carnage symbiote in an attempt to destroy reality. Once the Clone Saga and the show ended, it was left with a bunch of dangling hooks and an Aborted Arc hinting at Spider-Man's eventual cloning. Spider-Girl: The child of Peter and Mary Jane Watson who was miscarried and/or baby-swapped in the main continuity but generally quietly ignored. She was revived in an alternate universe called the MC2 where Mayday Parker ultimately became Spider-Man's Distaff Counterpart. To this day, it is the longest selling title for any female character published by Marvel running 100 issues with sequel series and other miniseries that survived cancellation and low salesnote EIC DeFalco wanted her to stay in the main continuity but he got fired and later editors disliking the concept of Peter as a father tried to remove her. When he returned as writer, DeFalco tried to bring her back but Howard Mackie and John Byrne brought Aunt May back instead. Ultimate Spider-Man: A Setting Update and Continuity Reboot set in an AU separate from the main continuity. This version of the Clone Saga differed entirely from the previous two versions, tied to the emotional center of the Love Triangle of the Ultimate versions of Peter/Mary Jane/Kitty Pryde rather than the fanboy grudges about Gwen's death (Clone Saga 1) and angst about Spider-Man not being young anymore (Clone Saga 2). It's notable for tying Jessica Drew into the actual Spidey lore for the first time when previously she was unrelatednote Lee commissioned Spider-Woman, Jessica's alter-ego as an Ashcan Copy to check an attempt by DC to hijack the Spider-suffix for any knockoff character. Originally, her powers and motifs didn't have anything to do with Peter Parker, being hastily made. The editors kept her apart from the mainline Spidey titles for fears of diluting the story with kitschy Distaff Counterpart. In 2009, Tom DeFalco and Howard Mackie—two people involved in the second Saga—reunited for a mini-series called Spider-Man: The Clone Saga, a "director's cut" and streamlined version of the story. The miniseries ends with Peter and MJ still married, and Ben, baby May, and Aunt May alive and well, though it does also use some ideas proposed for the ending of the Saga, such as Harry Osborn being the mastermind, albeit in an altered form than proposed. As of April 2021, Miles Morales unfortunately gets his own Clone Saga and has to deal with the headaches that come with it.After Ben's death, the mantle of the Scarlet Spider was inherited by many others, whose adventures are covered here.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_1162c1ea	comment	Pretending to Be One's Own Relative: After Peter and Mary Jane return to New York from Portland, Ben and Peter pretend to be cousins to ward off suspicions.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_1439161f	comment	Heroic BSoD: Spider-Man suffered two. The first one he's already in the middle of when the storyline opens, because of his Aunt being in the hospital and his "parents" being revealed to be robots. The second is after Seward Trainer "reveals" that Ben is the real Peter and he's the clone.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_143939c1	comment	Trailers Always Spoil: One of the solicitations for Ultimate Clone Saga featured a cover revealing Doctor Octopus as the Big Bad.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_145babc0	comment	Expendable Clone: In Spider-Island, it's confirmed that the Jackal has a few squirreled away, leaving the nature of 90's-era Jackal uncertain. The current Jackal is a blend of old and new: He keeps the green fur and lupine anatomy of the original, but (like his clone counterpart) it's not a costume anymore. The version we see in this story has smaller ears and a full head of green hair.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_1645005b	comment	Evil Versus Evil: In the series of arcs in late-1995 ("The Greatest Responsibility", "Virtual Mortality" and "Cyberwar"), Lady Octopus and Alistair Smythe were warring against each other, either directly of by proxy, with Scarlet Spider caught in the middle.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_169d22e6	type	Villain Team-Up
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_169d22e6	comment	Villain Team-Up: At certain points of the 1990s Clone Saga, some of Spidey's villains team up: In "Mark of Kaine", the Sinister Seven join forces to protect themselves from Kaine. During Ben Reilly's last days as Scarlet Spider, Lady Octopus hires Looter, a villain introduced in the 1960s, as one of her underlings. A storyline in 1996, with Ben as Spider-Man, has Mysterio in a new getup ally himself with new villain Armada. In Spider-Man Unlimited #12, Jack O'Lantern, Scorpia, Shocker, Boomerang and Beetle go after Ben-as-Spider-Man to get the reward of the Spider-Skeleton.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_177a6464	type	Genre Shift
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_177a6464	comment	Genre Shift: The Second Clone Saga concretely moves away from Spider-Man's Small Steps Hero kitchen-sink storyline for a kind of byzantine conspiracy and bizarre science-fiction with a dollop of fantasy added on top.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_178ca149	type	The Worf Effect
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_178ca149	comment	The Worf Effect: Doctor Octopus got killed by Kaine to enforce the idea of Kaine being a badass. Death in comics being what it is, Doctor Octopus recovers. Earlier, Venom was beaten by Ben to establish Ben as a superhero in his own right. Downplayed in that it look him considerably more effort to take down Venom than the few moments it took Kaine to snap the neck of a captive Doc Ock.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_17ce80aa	type	All There in the Manual
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_17ce80aa	comment	All There in the Manual: The identity of the disfigured clone that kidnaps MJ was confirmed to be Kaine in the Ultimate Secrets one-shot. The same one-shot confirms the six-armed clone to be Tarantula. Bendis on his message board stated the MJ-Goblin was Ultimate Demogoblin.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_17fe1048	type	Naked on Arrival
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_17fe1048	comment	Naked on Arrival: The Gwen Stacy clone, and later, all future clones who emerge from their pods (The Jackal included).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_1989b0c	comment	Comic-Book Time: According to a comment by the Jackal, there is a gap of five years between this storyline and the first Clone Saga in-universe. Since just over twenty actual years had passed in real life, this is some serious time compression.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_214d3bf2	type	Dye or Die
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_214d3bf2	comment	Dye or Die: It's one thing to have two Spider-Men running around; it's quite another to have two Peter Parkers. So Ben Reilly goes blond. This also went a long way toward differentiating his character.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_241ca0d8	type	Back for the Dead
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_241ca0d8	comment	Back for the Dead: Ben Reilly, thought to have been dumped into a smokestack and incinerated by a fearful Spider-Man, returns at the start of the storyline (in late-1994) and sacrifices himself at the end of the final story arc (December 1996). Hero Nightwatch, introduced in Web of Spider-Man #98-100, had a short-lived solo title in 1994-1995. He reappears in Spider-Man Unlimited #14, and is unceremoniously killed by El Toro Negro as part of "The Great Game", a storyline begun in the "Scarlet Spider" titles of late-1995.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_25524784	type	No-Holds-Barred Beatdown
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_25524784	comment	No-Holds-Barred Beatdown: The Punisher ended up suffering one from Spidey moments after showing up in Maximum Clonage.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_26ac510e	type	Mythology Gag
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_26ac510e	comment	Mythology Gag: How the Norman clone dies, taking the blades of the Goblin Glider intended for Peter, both to the '90s story ended with Ben dying to save Peter and —though the context is different — how Norman died in The Night Gwen Stacy Died, doubling as a Call-Back to that story.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_272abb98	comment	Shoot the Shaggy Dog: It was fairly evident, even at an early stage, that Marvel was never going to allow Ben Reilly to replace Peter Parker in the mainline books. Nevertheless, the writers tried — wishful thinking, perhaps — to flesh him out with a new supporting cast, a new rogues gallery (mixed bag, that one), a couple of odd jobs outside the Daily Bugle, and a throwback personality akin to the Silver Age Spider-Man. There was even a 'Lost Tales' series dedicated to Ben's past adventures on the road. Very little of Ben survives in the canon, though his grumpy counterpart Kaine is still with us, having mellowed out a little.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_29292e6d	type	Walking the Earth
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_29292e6d	comment	Walking the Earth: This was Ben Reilly's life between both Clone Sagas: The Lost Years mini-series depicted Ben Reilly's time on the road, most specifically in Salt Lake City, where he also met Kaine. An issue of Spider-Man Team-Up had Ben (as the New Spider-Man) and Gambit face against a crime lord in New York, and flashbacks show Ben got mixed up with said crime lord in New OrlÃ©ans, while he wandered through America. His wanderings come to an end when he gets news of Aunt May's hospitalization, and makes his way to New York (as depicted in the issues leading up to the beginning of the Clone Saga in 1994).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2b5ea43c	comment	Bland-Name Product: In Amazing Spider-Man #413, Spider-Man is apparently shrunk to toy size and fights an astronaut toy named "Fuzz".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2bb0eea3	type	Villainous Medical Care
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2bb0eea3	comment	Villainous Medical Care: In "Back From the Edge" arc, Spider-Man is infected with a deadly virus by the (rejuvenated) Vulture and suffers its symptoms. In the next arc ("Web of Death"), Dr. Octopus finds a fallen Spider-Man on a rooftop and rescues him, taking him to his secret lab. He synthetizes a cure and gives it to Peter, just in time for him to celebrate a baby on the way with Mary Jane, and Kaine, a failed Spider-Clone, to kill Doc Ock.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2bb6f196	type	Practically Joker
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2bb6f196	comment	Practically Joker: The Jackal is a not-so-subtle Joker expy◊.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2df1c354	comment	Facepalm of Doom: The preferred killing method of Kaine.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2f4d2172	type	C-List Fodder
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2f4d2172	comment	C-List Fodder: While Kaine murders Dr. Octopus, one of Spidey's legendary foes, the other villain he murdered early on was... the Grim Hunter, the son of Kraven the Hunter, who was introduced not even a year earlier and was tossed away because the writers had absolutely no idea what to do with him.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2fc21a19	type	Distaff Counterpart
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_2fc21a19	comment	A few were introduced for Kraven (The Grim Hunter), Doctor Octopus (Lady Octopus), and the Rose. The Grim Hunter got killed by Kaine, Lady Octopus only lasted a few years before the classic Doc Ock returned (though she later turned up in Spider-Girl), and the new Rose only lasted about as long as Lady Octopus.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_302a9f5f	type	West Coast Team
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_302a9f5f	comment	West Coast Team: As Ben was being groomed to take the Spider-Man mantle, Peter made preparations to transfer to another newspaper in Portland. The plan was for Peter, his journey now complete, to ride into the sunset with MJ and their new baby. Later, this was modified to Peter (still officially the clone by this point) self-exiling himself after his brainwashing in "Time Bomb", to protect his loved ones. Neither scenario took off. A workaround was developed with Kaine—the only surviving clone from the series—who settled in Houston and decided to try his hand at crime-fighting. Due to a wardrobe malfunction (really), the news media colloquially referred to him as a "Scarlet Spider" and the name stuck. Ironically for a character created as a more idealistic version of the modern Spider-Man, Kaine is very nearly a villain himself, and treats his job as trash collecting rather than some lofty pursuit. Also, it was proposed that Ben have his own spin-off title. He ended up helming the Scarlet Spider books, but Marvel was in the midst of cancelling most of their spinoff books because they felt it was splitting the fanbase and costing them money.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_309b8806	type	Cursed with Awesome
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_309b8806	comment	Cursed with Awesome: According to Word of God, Kaine's Clone Degeneration gives him his precognition - amplifying his Spider-Sense. The Mark of Kaine was also said to be an amplified wall-crawling trait — specifically, using his wall-crawling/clinging powers to stick his hand to someone, and then rip it off, leaving a perfect hand-shaped mark. Of course, Peter Parker's "stick-em" powers are powerful enough to do the same, but most of his opponents only have their face exposed, so the results could be very gruesome.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_30e222a1	comment	Censor Steam: Applied to both MJ/Demogoblin and Gwen-Carnage at various points.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_30e6200f	type	Missing Steps Plan
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_30e6200f	comment	Missing Steps Plan: From Topless Robot:
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_31da1e24	type	Shipper on Deck
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_31da1e24	comment	Shipper on Deck: Aunt May tells Mary Jane in no uncertain terms to fight for her man against this supposedly revived Gwen.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_326a44a1	type	Create Your Own Villain
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_326a44a1	comment	Create Your Own Villain: In "The Final Adventure" mini-series, a serial killer is subjected to an experimental treatment by Dr. Monica Staphos, Peter Parker's colleague. Peter secretly analyzes her research and adds his radioactive blood, causing a positive result that greatly advances Staphos's project. When Dr. Monica injects her patient with the resultant serum, made from Peter's blood, she accidentally transforms him into a monstrous spider hybrid called Tendril. Peter being Peter, he feels responsible for the monster and hunts him.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_327a8110	type	Life/Death Juxtaposition
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_327a8110	comment	Life/Death Juxtaposition: The final part of "Web of Death" applies the imagery: Kaine battles and breaks Dr. Octopus's neck, while Peter and Mary Jane build their future daughter's crib, celebrating the coming of a new life.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_33c2b1e2	type	Best Served Cold
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_33c2b1e2	comment	Best Served Cold: The whole saga is revealed to be Norman's revenge against Peter for Harry's death—which makes him responsible for everyone that got killed or hurt throughout. When this is revealed to Peter, Norman has also set in motion a plan to kill those in the supporting cast that he feels either wronged him personally or enabled Harry's death. And there's the question of Baby May...
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_33d5b7f2	type	Adapted Out
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_33d5b7f2	comment	Adapted Out: Several characters including Seward Trainer, Spidercide, Judas Traveller, Grim Hunter, and the Scriers were removed.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_342f0ffa	type	Discriminate and Switch
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_342f0ffa	comment	Discriminate and Switch: Ben Reilly as Spider-Man gets accused of being racist by an African-American man who turned out to be an undercover police detective, but the real reason Ben was suspicious of the man was because Ben's boss at the coffee bar he works at is the cop's ex-wife, merely said he was bad news and undependable, and was worried about their son being near him.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_34889673	type	Gender Flip
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_34889673	comment	Ultimate Spider-Woman was given the name Jessica Drew Ã la the original version, her costume is based on the one wore by Julia Carpenter/Spider-Woman II/Arachne, and the red highlight stem from Ben Reilly's Scarlet Spider costume The latter is kinda fitting as this incarnation is basically a Gender Flipped version of Ben Reilly. Ultimate Kaine is wearing a messed-up version of Ben's Spider-Man costume. The MJ-Goblin creature is Ultimate Demogoblin.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_38326b11	type	Clone Degeneration
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_38326b11	comment	Clone Degeneration: Kaine again, though Jackal does try to find a serum to cure it and Dr. Octopus later completes it.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_38b33e8d	type	Love Epiphany
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_38b33e8d	comment	Love Epiphany: It's during this story that both Peter and Mary Jane finally realize just how much they love each other. Mary Jane is so upset and saddened by the arrival of Gwen's clone, and because Peter could reject her for Gwen, that she keeps asking Peter to make a choice and demands to know how he feels. Peter for his part is confused by guilt until after he fights the clone and realizes that because he loves Mary Jane, he's the real one. The story ends with them having a Relationship Upgrade and what is clearly Their First Time in bed together.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3a1c2171	type	The Man Behind the Man
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3a1c2171	comment	The Man Behind the Man: The false DNA results for Peter Parker were fed to the Jackal by the Scrier Organization, who in turn were being led by Gaunt, who in fact was a Decoy Leader in the employ of the Scriers' true master, Norman Osborn. (He later rebranded the cult as The Order of the Goblin, a personal touch.)
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3c7ccb69	type	No Body Left Behind
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3c7ccb69	comment	No Body Left Behind: The majority of the Jackal's clones collapse into goo once their number is up — even a copy of Gwen Stacy. Ben, conveniently enough, turns to dust. This allows Peter to give him a proper farewell by scattering his "brother's" ashes to the wind.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3cede7af	type	Opening a Can of Clones
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3cede7af	comment	Opening a Can of Clones: The Spider-books in general are famous for this trope, but this is the story arc that kicked it into high gear: First, Ben Reilly comes back to New York, then Kaine (a deformed clone) appears. Then, in "Smoke and Mirrors", the original Jackal returns and throws Ben and Peter's identities into question. Thirdly, a third clone comes out of a pod, turns into Spidercide, and dies in "Maximum Clonage". During "Maximum Clonage", Ben and Kaine fight an army of defective Spider-Clones that dissolve. A storyline in 1996 has a Spider-Skeleton being found in a chimney, supposedly the original clone's scorched remains, probably the intention was to throw doubt on Ben's identity and put forward the possibility of both Spider-Men being clones. By this point, though, there were already so many clones running around, the effect was lost and the whole subplot was discarded and quickly resolved. The Jackal himself: in The Osborn Journal, the Miles Warren that died in the Shea Stadium explosion was another clone.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3d944d55	type	Always Need What You Gave Up
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_3d944d55	comment	Always Need What You Gave Up: Spidey had a logical reason for throwing away the test results that said if he was a clone or not. Unfortunately, it turns out later in the story that they could have been useful.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_401d4116	type	Broken Aesop
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_401d4116	comment	Broken Aesop: This Clone Saga concretely breaks the aesop of the first one which was moving on, not being fixated on the past, and Peter realizing that he's not the same guy who fell for Gwen anymore. The second Clone Saga is all about writers trying to revive the days of single swinging Peter, falling into the curse of nostalgia that the first one showed was toxic and awful.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_40a533db	type	Guest-Star Party Member
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_40a533db	comment	Guest-Star Party Member: Daredevil joins Spider-Man in the second arc "Back from the Edge". The New Warriors cameo at the start of the "Maximum Clonage" arc, and help Scarlet Spider in the "Time Bomb" two-parter.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_40d1bc9d	type	Ambiguous Clone Ending
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_40d1bc9d	comment	Ambiguous Clone Ending: That would be revisited years down the line. Though as Peter logically points out he knows he's the real one since the clones were made after Gwen's death and are all fixated on her when he's now in love with MJ and moved on. How could he be the clone if he's the one with an actual real-time memory affected by life experiences?
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_41d9aaef	type	Brainwashed
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_41d9aaef	comment	Brainwashed: The Jackal can usurp control over Gwen's's mind if he wishes, although Gwen later manages to shake it off and call him a monster, which horrifies him. Played for Drama: the Jackal is a very sad, old man who sees himself as a hero.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_42008602	type	Story Arc
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_42008602	comment	Story Arc: Despite its long duration and convoluted plot, some plotlines can be gleamed from the overall saga: For the first year (1994-1995), there is Kaine's identity (linked to detective Jacob Conover's arrival); the person in Kaine's visions; who is the real Peter and who is the clone. For the second year (1996), there is the Spider-Skeleton for the first half of the year, and lastly the identity of the real mastermind behind the Clone Saga.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_43a045de	type	Dropped a Bridge on Him
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_43a045de	comment	Dropped a Bridge on Him: Quite a few examples. Both the Grim Hunter (Kraven's first son) and Doctor Octopus were killed early on in order to establish Kaine as a powerful threat. The former's creator Howard Mackie offered up the Hunter because he reportedly didn't know where to take him, and he has stayed dead. Ock, howeverâ€¦. When the saga was reaching one of its intended wrap-up points, both the Jackal and Kaine, two major figures, were quickly and unceremoniously killed off. Kaine got better, though, very quickly afterwards. Once Peter was set to come back, several of Ben Reilly's villains were killed off in rapid succession. DK, a human inadvertently mutated into a muck monster capable of decaying anything and suffering from depression and Survivor's Guilt, survived the Saga only to commit suicide by using his powers to dissolve himself from the inside out. Surprisingly averted with Ben Reilly, the source for a lot of hatred amongst fans. He was given a fairly respectful death at the hands of the Green Goblin.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_44606d14	type	Becoming the Mask
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_44606d14	comment	Becoming the Mask: Per The Osborn Journal, Seward Trainer was Miles Warren's assistant by the time of the 1970s Clone Saga, and was blackmailed by Scrier to develop a friendship with Ben Reilly in order to keep tabs on him. However, a genuine bond did develop between the two, so much so Trainer apologized to Ben in the arc "Blood Brothers", and tried to warn Peter and Ben in "Revelations".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_447d9e50	type	Xanatos Speed Chess
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_447d9e50	comment	Xanatos Speed Chess: Per The Osborn Journal, not every tragedy that happened to Peter and Mary Jane (e.g., Aunt May's collapse) in the interregnum between both Clone Sagas was Norman's doing, but, as he admitted in his journal, some events played into his long game and he took advantage of them.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_450c5a85	type	Alternate Continuity
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_450c5a85	comment	Alternate Continuity: Norman Osborn's still dead; Harry faked his death and is the mastermind; Dr. Octopus doesn't die, there's no Seward Trainer, Gaunt, or Spidercide; Ben Reilly meets his supporting cast during his Spidey tenure while he's still the Scarlet Spider; and outside of Harry getting locked up and the Norman clone dying, everyone lives happily ever after. Even the backstory was altered, having Aunt May's hospitalization changed from being a stroke to a virus and Peter not suffering a breakdown.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_453871ec	type	What Could Have Been
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_453871ec	comment	Judas Traveller and Scrier. Apparently no-one really knew what was going on with them, and while ideas were proposed—such as Traveller being a Fallen Angel and Scrier being Mephisto—ultimately Traveller was just an illusionist who bought into his own hype and started believing he could actually control time, and Scrier was really a group of individuals in a cult who all wear the same masks, apart from the lead Scrier, who was Norman Osborn himself... got all that?
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_455f6a91	type	Long-Lost Relative
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_455f6a91	comment	Long-Lost Relative: A character named Jessica Carradine was introduced in the new title Sensational Spider-Man, as the daughter of the burglar who killed Uncle Ben. She was also poised to become a potential Love Interest for Ben Reilly during this time, until the creative gears were shifting to bring Peter back from Portland and reestablish him as the true Spider-Man, and she was given a sendoff.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_488af87c	type	Post-Mortem Comeback
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_488af87c	comment	Post-Mortem Comeback: After the Jackal died, a post-mortem compulsion activates within Spider-Man's brain, causing him to try to kill whoever he loves most under temporary conscious mind control.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_48b9731f	type	Paper-Thin Disguise
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_48b9731f	comment	Peter trying on blond wigs in a department store with MJ and wondering how Ben thought it could possibly fool anyone. This was writer Howard Mackieâ€™s dig at the notion that Ben could dye his hair blond to avoid identification. Adding salt in the wound, the "blond Ben Reilly" idea was pitched by the outgoing Editor-in-Chief, who was sacked in large part due to the inter-office chaos at the time.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_48c99e19	type	Death by Adaptation
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_48c99e19	comment	Death by Adaptation: Norman Osborn is still dead in this version.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4d044580	type	Motive Rant
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4d044580	comment	Motive Rant: The final issue of the saga has Osborn giving a series of these. He had a lot to explain, after all.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4e3d253b	type	Downer Ending
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4e3d253b	comment	Downer Ending: Ben dies, Peter and Mary Jane lose their baby, Osborn/Goblin is still at large and Peter decides to quit being Spider-Man (for the moment).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4ef92d0b	type	The Atoner
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_4ef92d0b	comment	The Atoner: It was this era of Spider-Man's career that introduced Phil Urich, who attempted to re-purpose the Green Goblin costume and alias for justice.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_508535ad	type	Fighting Fingerprint
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_508535ad	comment	Fighting Fingerprint: In the arc "Web of Life", starring Ben as the Scarlet Spider, Grim Hunter, one of Kraven's sons, fights Ben, thinking he is Peter, and, after a quick battle, recognizes that Ben was not the one he fought.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_51509ce7	type	Convenient Miscarriage
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_51509ce7	comment	Convenient Miscarriage: During the Clone Saga, Mary Jane was pregnant with Baby May. Baby May was originally supposed to tie into the storyline of Peter Parker not being the real Peter Parker. Since Peter wasn't the real Peter anymore, Marvel would have been able to get around the problem where having a baby would age Peter too much. But after the fan revolt, Marvel decided to make Peter the real Peter after all and the pregnancy storyline was dropped. It should be mentioned the writers implied Norman may have taken the baby somewhere; this was Left Hanging in the comics proper and is probably now Canon Discontinuity as of One More Day, but the Alternate Continuity comic Spider-Girl took the thread and ran with it.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_53224e46	type	Bookends
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_53224e46	comment	Bookends: The Final Adventure was apparently supposed to be this, since Peter takes up a job at the same facility that arranged the radioactive experiment that gave him his powers in his adolescence. In issue #4, he is bombarded again and apparently loses his spider-powers, allowing him to live a normal life with Mary Jane. That is, until he comes back to New York.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5a3b8032	type	The Un-Reveal
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5a3b8032	comment	The Unreveal: The end of the saga left fans wondering if Baby May was actually dead or had just been kidnapped. They were going to go with the former, but the writers were ordered to make it ambiguous (oddly by the very people that didn't want Spider-Man to have a child in the first place).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5a40d6a	type	Adaptation Distillation
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5a40d6a	comment	Adaptation Distillation: It simplifies the story and removes characters like Seward Trainer, Spidercide, Judas Traveller, Grim Hunter, and the Scriers at least.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5c9caf26	type	Civvie Spandex
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5c9caf26	comment	Civvie Spandex: The Scarlet Spider once again wearing a hoodie as part of his costume.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5e782d0c	type	Super Prototype
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5e782d0c	comment	Super Prototype: Sort of. Kaine was the first Spider-Man clone made, but quickly began suffering from clone degeneration. However, this increased his Spider-Sense to the point where it gives him precognition.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5f207a1a	type	Courtroom Episode
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5f207a1a	comment	Courtroom Episode: "The Trial of Peter Parker" Story Arc, with a Kangaroo Court sequence thrown in for good measure.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5f52cfcf	type	Intrepid Reporter
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5f52cfcf	comment	Intrepid Reporter: In The Final Adventure mini-series, Bugle reporter Ken Ellis is preparing a story connecting the dots between Scarlet Spider, Spider-Man (Peter, previously, and Ben now) and Peter himself. He does connect the dots between Spider's appearance in television and Uncle Ben's death, which acted as the motive to his change in behaviour. On Mary Jane's behalf, editor Robbie Robertson pulls some strings to make sure the story never sees print.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5fb6411f	type	We Are as Mayflies
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_5fb6411f	comment	We Are as Mayflies: There's no telling how long clone denigration will take; like the mini-Jackal says, "It may take a few weeks — a few months — a few decades."
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_614ab353	type	Witch with a Capital "B"
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_614ab353	comment	Witch with a Capital "B": In The Final Adventure, Peter's inner caption says his colleague Dr. Staphos "rhymes with witch".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6331ba26	type	Plot Hole
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6331ba26	comment	Plot Hole: If he wasn't the clone, how did the Jackal program Peter to be a Manchurian Agent in the event of the former's death? The Answer: Exhausted writers.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6439de78	type	Heroic Sacrifice
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6439de78	comment	Heroic Sacrifice: The Norman clone leaps between Peter and the Goblin Glider, similar to how Ben in the '90s story did, to save Peter's life — and thus die the same way the original Norman did.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6563a3f2	type	Cyberspace
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6563a3f2	comment	Cyberspace: A series of arcs in late-1995 ("The Greatest Responsibility", "Virtual Mortality" and "Cyberwar") featured Lady Octopus trying to obtain chips and other technology. Her master plan? To "merge reality with cyberspace" and bring the Master Programmer to reality, because the latter was an avatar of Dr. Octopus's consciousness he uploaded online. Seward Trainer, Ben Reilly's scientist friend, was also venturing into the Cyberspace, when his consciousness was trapped there, leaving his body in a coma.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_65acf9db	type	He Knows Too Much
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_65acf9db	comment	He Knows Too Much: In the last arc, "Revelations", Seward Trainer discovers Norman Osborn is the real mastermind, and tries to make a run to warn either Ben or Peter. Just as he reaches the streets before the Daily Bugle, Mendel Stromm and Osborn intercept him, and Norman breaks his neck.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_66e48100	type	The Kindnapper
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_66e48100	comment	The Kindnapper: In issue #3 of Spider-Man: Redemption, Janine Godbe is being transported as a prisoner, when a mysterious assailant attacks her convoy and takes off with her. The assailant is Ben Reilly, her lover, who just wanted to rescue her from police custody.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_672c49e9	type	Morally Superior Copy
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_672c49e9	comment	Morally Superior Copy: The Norman clone ends up being this to the original Osborn, horrified by the monster the original's actions warped Harry into being and doing everything he can to stop Harry, even performing a Heroic Sacrifice to save Peter.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6a696742	type	The Power of Love
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6a696742	comment	The Power of Love: In the "Time Bomb" two-parter, Mary Jane draws Peter to his Queens home and surrounds herself with pictures of May and Ben Parker. Drawing strength from his loved ones' memories, Peter overcomes Jackal's programming.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6b2b3b59	type	The Reveal
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6b2b3b59	comment	The Reveal: Norman Osborn is the one behind everything, and Peter really was the real deal all along.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6cb5fcec	type	Distracted by My Own Sexy
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_6cb5fcec	comment	Distracted by My Own Sexy: The newly-hatched Jackal struts and flexes in his first appearance, admiring his new super-strong body. It's not very often that you see an old man with a HERCULEAN physique like that!
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_729c69f3	type	Politically Incorrect Villain
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_729c69f3	comment	Politically Incorrect Villain: Norman striking Liz marked the start of Norman becoming this.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7315fd38	type	Covers Always Lie
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7315fd38	comment	Covers Always Lie: Many covers had blurbs teasing that new twists would be revealed, only for the issue to present no new developments. Also, during Maximum Clonage, almost every cover featured an army of Spider-Clones. They ended up only appearing for one full issue and a few pages, then dying with little relevance to the plot.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7453bc5b	type	Spared by the Adaptation
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7453bc5b	comment	Spared by the Adaptation: Ben Reilly and baby May survive the story. Granted, Doctor Octopus did come Back from the Dead and Aunt May was retconned into having been replaced and never having actually died, but they could count, too, since their returns were after "The Clone Saga" ended.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_754df088	type	Put on a Bus
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_754df088	comment	Put on a Bus: Many of Spidey's old foes and supporting cast retire or otherwise let go of the titles to make way for Ben Reilly's foes and supporting characters, including Peter Parker himself. When Parker comes back, so does everyone else. Meanwhile, Reilly's side characters vanish in a similar manner. Osborn supposedly orders the death of Kaine off-panel, but he survives and returns under a number of aliases: Scarlet Spider (the second one), Tarantula, and others. Done twice for Ben Reilly's tenure as Spider-Man: In late-1995, all Spider-Man titles ("Web of", "Amazing", "Spider-Man", and "Spectacular") were replaced by Scarlet Spider. An attempt was made to give Ben his own cast, but, after two months (November and December), the Scarlet Spider identity was retired, and Ben was given a new direction. Starting in 1996, a new title, "Sensational Spider-Man", was launched, helmed by writer Dan Jurgens and featuring Ben as the New Spider-Man, with a new costume. Jessica Carradine, the burglar's daughter, was introduced in issue #0, along with the people from a cafÃ© named "Daily Grind". Jessica vanished after issue #6, and after "Revelations", so did the Daily Grind peeps. Judas Traveller, who was introduced at the initial arc, disappears in 1995, only to return for a two-parter in late-1996 for his plotline to have some semblance of a closure, then is sent off to regions unknown.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7570a10c	type	Bond Villain Stupidity
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7570a10c	comment	Bond Villain Stupidity: The Jackal has Spider-Man at his mercy, but insists on wheeling his unconscious form across town and dumping him over the same bridge where Gwen died.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_77b03c0a	type	Remember the New Guy?
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_77b03c0a	comment	Remember the New Guy?: A strange variation after Ben Reilly took up the mantle of Spider-Man: In January, 1996, that month's issues dealt with Ben reconnecting with old acquaintances: Human Torch, Silver Sable, Sandman, and single mother/superpowered mercenary Poison. During the same time, he also cameoed in Daredevil #354, and had to explain to the blind hero who was he, since Matt Murdock knew Spider-Man's heartbeat, and he (Peter) was standing next to him in the streets when Ben swung by.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_77ee199	type	Villain Killer
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_77ee199	comment	Villain Killer: Kaine ended up being this, offing Doc Ock and the Grim Hunter, which causes the other Spider-villains to form a Sinister Seven in order to survive.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_796bffea	type	Mistaken for Racist
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_796bffea	comment	Mistaken for Racist: As noted under "Discriminate and Switch", Shirley's ex-husband, Garon, thought that Ben was racist due to Ben acting to Shirley's desire to want their son, Devon, unaware that Ben worked for his ex-wife, thought he was bad news, and wasn't aware that Garon was an undercover cop.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7bf14666	type	And Now for Someone Completely Different
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7bf14666	comment	And Now for Someone Completely Different: After the first arc, "Power and Responsibility", the four Spider-titles are divided into two sections, each pair accompanying one Spider-Man: Amazing and Spectacular focus on Peter, while Web of and Adjectiveless on Ben Reilly. "Back From the Edge": Peter fights Puma, then meets Daredevil and confronts the Owl and Vulture. "The Exile Returns": Ben Reilly defeats Venom and Scream. "Web of Death": Peter, infected by a virus by the Vulture, is helped by Dr. Octopus, who also discovers his identity. Kaine kills Octopus. "Web of Life": Ben Reilly faces Kraven's son The Grim Hunter, who is killed by Kaine.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7c862b8a	type	Chronic Backstabbing Disorder
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7c862b8a	comment	Chronic Backstabbing Disorder: The Jackal, and the Too Dumb to Live characters don't remember his constant betraying 30 minutes after he does so.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7ef70048	type	Big Bad Friend
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7ef70048	comment	Big Bad Friend: The Jackal is able to override Peter's Spider-Sense. Why? Because he's a friend.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7fbe9a30	type	Freak Out
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_7fbe9a30	comment	Freak Out: Peter has one when he starts thinking he's the clone, but it doesn't last long before he calms down and just accepts it.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_82f05a5d	type	ConservationOfNinjitsu
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_82f05a5d	comment	Conservation of Ninjutsu: Averted with the evil Spider-Man clone army. Ben Reilly barely escapes them with his life and in the end, they end up dissolving and are never fully defeated by the heroes.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8391b1c7	type	Artistic License â€“ Law
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8391b1c7	comment	Artistic License â€“ Law: The trial of Peter Parker is this, full stop. For starters, Peter is accused of murder in Utah, but put on trial in New York City. The prosecution opens with calling a surprise witness, which is bad enough abuse of the legal system by itself but is compound by the fact that said witness is Mary Jane, who through New York state's Spousal Privilege laws would have immunity from being compelled to testify against her husband. The prosector asks her one question, then openly calls Peter a murderer after she answers it (without an objection by Peter's lawyer), then has her leave the witness stand without letting the defense cross-examine her. And things go downhill from there...
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_83cef301	type	Right for the Wrong Reasons
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_83cef301	comment	Right for the Wrong Reasons: After the discovery of the Spider-Skeleton in the "Return of Kaine" arc, Peter wants to get it tested by the Avengers, not Seward Trainer, who did the clone/testing in Spectacular Spider-Man #226, proving he was the clone. Peter suspected Trainer's objectivity in favouring Ben somehow. He was right in doubting Trainer's reliability, but not for the reasons he thought, as revealed in the "Blood Brothers" arc.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_863fa679	type	What Happened to the Mouse?
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_863fa679	comment	What Happened to the Mouse?: Clone Gwen Stacy survives the story, appears for the "genetic virus" retcon, and then vanishes for several years. When she does return during the second saga, it is revealed she had a mental breakdown and was nursed back to health by a clone of Warren, who she later marries, but he dies protecting her from Phil Urich's Green Goblin. Gwen's memories of her cloned life come back and she seeks revenge on the Jackal, but goes off-grid again at the conclusion of Maximum Clonage
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_86d4f985	type	Doing In the Wizard
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_86d4f985	comment	Doing In the Wizard: Judas Traveller and the Scrier were introduced back in 1994 and apparently possessed supernatural powers. Come 1996, with Amazing Spider-Man #417, and 1997's The Osborn Journal, Traveller was revealed to be a mutant with illusionary powers, and the Scrier was simply an European cult whose technology, provided by Norman Osborn and Gaunt, gave the illusion of magic powers and teleportation.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8844a843	type	Seeing Through Another's Eyes
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8844a843	comment	Seeing Through Another's Eyes: During the parallel arcs "Web of Life" and "Web of Death", Ben and Peter start to have visions of the clone in a vat being developed, and the Jackal flying to get him. In "Smoke and Mirrors", the sequel immediately after both stories, Peter somehow senses Ben knocked out in the snow in the Andirondack Mountains. These shared visions were never explained, although Ben's could be explained as him being the clone.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8967e17f	type	Back from the Dead
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8967e17f	comment	Back from the Dead: A person named "Gaunt" appears in league with Seward Trainer and Osborn. It is later revealed he was Mendel Stromm, the Robot Master, who used a premature version of the Goblin formula on himself and, like Norman, it "preserved his body".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8a83cabc	type	Captured on Purpose
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8a83cabc	comment	Captured on Purpose: At the end of "Players and Pawns" arc, the Jackal is captured and taken to Ravencroft. This is his plan, so he can get the Carrion Virus from Shriek, another inmate.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8b5e8731	type	Kudzu Plot
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8b5e8731	comment	Kudzu Plot: A lot of it was because even the writers weren't sure where they were going with this. The most obvious example of this was the climax of the saga which featured an evil army of Spider-Man clones. This part of the story was written across different titles by different writers. One issue introduced the army in a Cliffhanger panel. Another comic followed that up by having Kaine appear to help out, but being told not to kill any of the clones. The followup issue by yet another creative team depicted Kaine slaughtering several clones with no-one objecting. The writer also didn't seem to know what to do with the army so he just had them randomly dissolve into dust with a brief line of dialogue about them being "unstable". In the end, the clone army had no real importance to the plot despite much hype to the contrary.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8cb1a369	type	Took a Level in Jerkass
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8cb1a369	comment	Took a Level in Jerkass: Norman, as exemplified by the mere fact that it's him behind the whole thing in the first place, and not the Green Goblin. Years of Mind Rape against both Ben Reilly and Peter Parker are to be iced off with Osborn bombing every one of Peter's closest non-super friends, partly just for being that and partly because they pissed him off in various ways (regardless of whether they realised that or not), not to mention murdering(?) Peter and Mary Jane's unborn baby and presumably intending to take custody of his grandson Normie (his mum being one of his intended victims) and raising him in his own evil image after everything is over. He wasn't above killing anyone who got in his way in the process either. His very first act following his reawakening (fresh off the slab) is to kill a drifter of similar height and bury the body in his place.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8cda3dc2	type	Flawed Prototype
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_8cda3dc2	comment	Flawed Prototype: Kaine is identified as the first clone of Peter, who suffers from cellular degeneration that leaves him looking like a cracked statue that will eventually kill him, although he possesses superior strength to Peter or Ben.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_901dbf9a	type	Cliff Hanger
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_901dbf9a	comment	The most obvious example of this was the climax of the saga which featured an evil army of Spider-Man clones. This part of the story was written across different titles by different writers. One issue introduced the army in a Cliffhanger panel. Another comic followed that up by having Kaine appear to help out, but being told not to kill any of the clones. The followup issue by yet another creative team depicted Kaine slaughtering several clones with no-one objecting. The writer also didn't seem to know what to do with the army so he just had them randomly dissolve into dust with a brief line of dialogue about them being "unstable". In the end, the clone army had no real importance to the plot despite much hype to the contrary.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_906365a2	type	Demonic Possession
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_906365a2	comment	Demonic Possession: In the "Web of Carnage" arc, Ben Reilly, as Spider-Man, is taken over by the Carnage symbiote, turning him into "Spider-Carnage".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_90a1fbd4	type	Split-Personality Takeover
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_90a1fbd4	comment	Split-Personality Takeover: The Miles Warren personality looks to be well and truly gone: He emerges from his pod having undergone heavy genetic manipulation, effectively bringing his old costume to life. Inverted with Norman, who still possesses the cackling Goblin identity, but is equally monstrous outside of the suit.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_916c72b3	type	Rule of Symbolism
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_916c72b3	comment	Rule of Symbolism: When Jessica Carradine is introduced (Sensational Spider-Man #0) and in her subsequent appearances, she is always seen in black outfits - a reminder of her dark past with Spider-Man and her father, the burglar. Per her last on-panel apperance (issue #6), she is wearing a white dress, leaves some flowers on Ben Parker's grave, and declares she is ready to move on with her life and forget Spider-Man.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_92f674e5	type	Revenge
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_92f674e5	comment	Revenge: The Jackal's motivation; he blames Spidey for not saving Gwen Stacy. Nevermind that it was the Green Goblin's faultâ€¦
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_95265081	type	Leeroy Jenkins
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_95265081	comment	Leeroy Jenkins: The Scarlet Spider doesn't much cotton to Peter's longstanding truce with Venom.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_957e5fc2	type	Villainous Breakdown
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_957e5fc2	comment	Villainous Breakdown: While explaining his plan and intentions to Peter, Norman maintains a rather collected demeanor and keeps his anger in check. When Peter keeps getting up during their fight, however, Norman becomes increasingly unhinged.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9591377d	type	Heel Realization
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9591377d	comment	Heel Realization: Kaine realizes what Harry wants is wrong and delivers the baby back to MJ. The Norman clone also realizes Harry's mad and decided to end the feud, encouraging Kaine's returning the baby.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_96c26bf3	type	Armed with Canon
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_96c26bf3	comment	Armed with Canon: Peter trying on blond wigs in a department store with MJ and wondering how Ben thought it could possibly fool anyone. This was writer Howard Mackieâ€™s dig at the notion that Ben could dye his hair blond to avoid identification. Adding salt in the wound, the "blond Ben Reilly" idea was pitched by the outgoing Editor-in-Chief, who was sacked in large part due to the inter-office chaos at the time. When Ben Reilly criticizes Spider-Man's pact with Venom, he is speaking with writer Glenn Greenberg's voice. It illustrates the ideological differences between both heroes, but equally, the portrayal of Venom as an "anti-hero" left a bad taste in a lot of writers' mouths.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_96cc4848	type	"Dear John" Letter
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_96cc4848	comment	"Dear John" Letter: In The Final Adventure mini-series, issues #2-3, Mary Jane, fed up with Peter taking up the mantle of Spider-Man again in Portland against his promises, writes him a letter and leaves home back to New York.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_99a12edd	type	Cyborg
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_99a12edd	comment	Cyborg: Jason Macendale, the second Hobgoblin, returns during 1996 as a subordinate to Gaunt. This time, he has some cyborg updates.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9c8701b5	type	A Day in the Limelight
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9c8701b5	comment	A Day in the Limelight: The "Crossfire" two-parter gives the spotlight to Judas Traveller, explained as an immortal being who lived for centuries. This does not mesh well with the retcons of "The Osborn Journal".
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9ce6492a	type	Taking the Bullet
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9ce6492a	comment	Taking the Bullet: This time, it's a clone of Norman who takes the Goblin Glider for Peter.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9d4b58ba	type	I Let Gwen Stacy Die
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9d4b58ba	comment	I Let Gwen Stacy Die: This time, via Carnage..
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9ee065ab	type	Horror Doesn't Settle for Simple Tuesday
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9ee065ab	comment	Horror Doesn't Settle for Simple Tuesday: Norman Osborn makes his grand return from the dead on Halloween night. He planned for his reappearance to coincide with the occasion.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9f970427	type	Secret-Keeper
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_9f970427	comment	Secret-Keeper: Jessica Carradine takes a picture of Ben Reilly as Spider-Man in Sensational Spider-Man #4, and ponders if she should send the photos to unmask Reilly (issue #6). She sees him in action leaping into a burning building and gives him an envelope with the negatives, thus saving his secret.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a1b141f4	type	My God, What Have I Done?
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a1b141f4	comment	My God, What Have I Done?: Peter's reaction immediately after smacking a very pregnant Mary Jane into a wall.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a2cd1e60	type	Bold Inflation
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a2cd1e60	comment	Bold Inflation: Femme Fatale Delilah, introduced in this arc, has a bad habit of this mixed in with weird fonts.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a353507	type	Saved for the Sequel
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a353507	comment	Saved for the Sequel: The Gwen Stacy clone, who lingers on the periphery for another decade until Dan Slott nails her coffin nice and tight in Spider-Island (she returns for the sole purpose of getting whacked by her own personal Kaine, an aborted clone named Abby-L.) The Parker baby is also teased to have survived but, like the Gwen clone, this was born of the editors' desperation to keep sales up. Realistically, they had no way of knowing when or if these characters would turn up again, but they needed curious readers to keep following the books.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a3912d0e	type	Sexy Discretion Shot
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a3912d0e	comment	Sexy Discretion Shot: In part two of "Web of Death", Mary Jane returns to their apartment, just as Peter has, and they embrace and kiss, happy to see each other. Some panels later, they are dancing together, implying some sex happened to celebrate their reunion.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a4905771	type	Double-Meaning Title
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a4905771	comment	Double-Meaning Title: The title of arc "Smoke and Mirrors" can be read literally and metaphorically: in the metaphorical sense, it refers to the Jackal's deception, his attempts to cast doubts on Ben and Peter's identities and the defective Gwen Stacy clone; in the literal sense, it can refer to the wisps of smoke that surround Gwen after she emerges of the cloning pod, and the Jackal somehow entering a mirror to escape the Spiders.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a679184b	type	Due to the Dead
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a679184b	comment	Three epilogues were added as well: in the first, Peter and Mary Jane are comforted by their friends for their losses; in the second, Peter scatters Ben's ashes from a cinerary urn; in the third, which also acts as The Stinger, some architects survey the damage done to Osborn's building, when the man himself rises from some debris, kills the workers, and walks scot-free through the door, stating that the Green Goblin persona has accomplished much, but now Norman Osborn will do the rest.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a8559a9f	type	RealLife
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_a8559a9f	comment	Well, to be fair to Norman, he had actually been dead for more than 20 years in Real Life, so he arguably counts as a mild subversion.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ab5eea65	type	Dramatic Irony
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ab5eea65	comment	Dramatic Irony: Spider-Man Unlimited #12 gives closure to the Spider-Skeleton plot point. In the issue, a forensic anthropologist tests a 3D reconstruction of Peter's skull earlier. When the authorities bring the skeleton to the public demonstration, the forensic anthropologist uses the same process on the skeleton, and shows its face: Peter's! Of course, the forensics expert is right, since the Spider-Skeleton is another Spider-clone, but Peter is there in the audience, so the skeleton could not be him or his. At the end, the policewoman who watched the previous demonstration dismisses it as a procedure error made by the expert, and the plotline comes to a close.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_add14bc2	type	Orcus on His Throne
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_add14bc2	comment	Orcus on His Throne: Norman was introduced very late in the game. He doesn't even enter the picture until all of his subordinates have been snuffed out, apart from the Scriers (who later came to his rescue after he was captured by Spider-Man and sectioned). He explains that he'd been living sumptuously in Europe and rubbing elbows with the Scriers. He gradually usurped the organization and converted it into a tool for personal revenge.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_af7d483f	type	Dreaming of Things to Come
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_af7d483f	comment	Dreaming of Things to Come: A recurring plot point during 1995 was that Kaine, Peter's clone, has been having visions about someone killing Mary Jane. At first, this serves to justify him killing The Grim Hunter and Dr. Octopus. As the saga went on, Kaine's visions were getting more precise, until he saw Peter Parker trying to kill his wife (which did happen in the "Time Bomb" two-part arc).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b2279346	type	RetCon
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b2279346	comment	Retcon: Even before the second Clone Saga, there were retcons of this story, partially because of an author-perceived Science Marches On. It was revealed that Miles Warren didn't make any clones, but infected people with a genetic virus that made them into copies. Then this retcon itself was retconned in the second Clone Saga when they decided to bring back the clone.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b3dbc942	type	Sequel
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b3dbc942	comment	Sequel: The mini-series "Funeral for an Octopus" deals with the fallout of Doc Ock's death among the supervillain community. The Redemption mini-series acts as a continuation to Spider-Man: The Lost Years, bringing to a close Ben vs. Kaine's feud and resolving Janine/Elizabeth's fate.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b53077b3	type	Take That!
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b53077b3	comment	Take That!: When first announced, fans believed the series would take the place of the 1990s Clone Saga and explain how things went down in the wake of the revised history brought about by One More Day with Peter and MJ unmarried. What they got instead was a series that honoured the Spider-Marriage and provided many a jaded reader with a happy ending for the Parkers and a potential jumping-off point if they were no longer satisfied with the direction of the main book, which would carry onward with an unmarried Peter. The Trade Paperback of the mini-series is called "The REAL Clone Saga" In the last issue, Harry refers to his battles with Spider-Man as being like an addictive dance, describing the sensation as being "like the Macarena, only cool."
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b6203862	type	Interquel
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b6203862	comment	Interquel: A series of stories in the flipside of the Web of Spider-Man #117, Amazing Spider-Man #394, Spider-Man #51, and Spectacular Spider-Man #217 shows the birth of the clone, up until the meeting between the two Spider-Men at the Shea Stadium (as depicted in Amazing Spider-Man #149).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b983a56b	type	Came Back Wrong
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_b983a56b	comment	Came Back Wrong: Harry believes this to be the case with the Norman clone, who ended up a Morally Superior Copy who wants to spare the baby and end the feud before anyone else gets hurt.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ba0791de	type	First Girl Wins
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ba0791de	comment	First Girl Wins: Janine/Elizabeth Tyne, who is Ben's babymama in Spider-Girl.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bbca7a41	type	Mirror Match
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bbca7a41	comment	Mirror Match: The very first arc of the 1990s Clone Saga, "Power and Responsibility", puts Peter and Ben face to face since the 1970s, and their meeting is not a pleasant one.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bc3cb7ff	type	Clear My Name
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bc3cb7ff	comment	Clear My Name: Thanks to Kaine screwing with Ben, Peter ends up getting blamed for Kaine's crimes (and has no alibi that could work without blowing his secret identity) and has to clear his name. Ben takes his place in jail while he does so. Kaine eventually relents and turns himself in after Peter threatens to reveal his identity in court to save Ben. During the "Blood Brothers" arc, Jason Macendale burns Ben's workplace, the Daily Grind, pinning the blame on Ben. After the arc, Ben captures Jason Macendale and clears his name with Macendale's confession.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bd8c1248	type	Fleeting Demographic Rule
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bd8c1248	comment	Fleeting Demographic Rule: The ultimate result, more or less. Suspicious test results, a Gwen Stacy clone still alive out there, somewhere... A slight inversion in Norman Osborn, who was not resurrected only to be killed again. Instead, he got promoted to the series' arch-manipulator and Villain with Good Publicity (as opposed to a lunatic Mad Bomber), as well as cementing his place as the Arch-Enemy of Spider-Man. Over the next decade or so his threat hangs over Peter and his supporting cast and he ends up ruining many of their lives, or doing his damnest to at least.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bdc94cd9	type	Compressed Adaptation
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_bdc94cd9	comment	Compressed Adaptation: While the original was going to span six months and ended up spanning a few years, it was also planned to span across four titles. Here, it tries to cram all of it into six issues of a single series.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_be981edb	comment	Anti-Hero Substitute: In an inversion, while Peter's personality had started to darken over the past several months, Ben was an intentional throwback to Spidey in his earlier days.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c2d6bd47	type	Redemption Earns Life
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c2d6bd47	comment	Redemption Earns Life: Pun aside, in the Spider-Man: Redemption mini-series, by J. M. DeMatteis and Mike Zeck, Kaine explodes a diner Ben Reilly and Janine were in, but rethinks his plan and rescues them. Later, Ben repays the favour by saving Kaine from a Suicide by Cop. Kaine thanks him and surrenders himself to the police.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c3ae004a	type	Re-Cut
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c3ae004a	comment	ReCut: The Spider-Man: The Complete Ben Reilly Epic TPB #6 adds some extra pages pencilled by John Romita Jr. to Spider-Man #75: Some showcase Ben Reilly fighting against Osborn between Amazing Spider-Man #418 and the issue, when he regains consciousness. More pages were given to Peter and Norman's fight. Three epilogues were added as well: in the first, Peter and Mary Jane are comforted by their friends for their losses; in the second, Peter scatters Ben's ashes from a cinerary urn; in the third, which also acts as The Stinger, some architects survey the damage done to Osborn's building, when the man himself rises from some debris, kills the workers, and walks scot-free through the door, stating that the Green Goblin persona has accomplished much, but now Norman Osborn will do the rest.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c3bc970f	type	Seers
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c3bc970f	comment	Seers: Kaine is one; according to Word of God, this ability is an amped-up version of Spider-Man's Spider-Sense.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c420a553	type	We Can Rule Together
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c420a553	comment	We Can Rule Together: The Jackal pitches this idea to Peter, who is already distraught over finding out that he's a clone. An ambiguous remark by the Jackal ("Couldn't have planned it better myself... or did I?") suggests, in hindsight, that he knew the test results were false.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c75df49a	type	Shout-Out
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c75df49a	comment	Shout-Out: The Punisher was brought in for the Maximum Clonage tie-in miniseries as a reference to the fact that he made his first-ever appearance in the original Clons Saga. The title Maximum Clonage itself was a Call-Back to the Maximum Carnage arc from a few years previously. In Amazing Spider-Man #411, at night, a burglar tried to rob a wealthy couple in front of their young son, violently pulling the lady's pearl necklace. Her husband confronts the mugger, who prepares to shoot. Does this sound familiar? Luckily for the Marvel "Waynes", Spidey/Ben arrives and saves the family. Fittingly enough, the young boy is wearing a Batman shirt. It can be seen here.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c9e5a0db	type	Legacy Character
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_c9e5a0db	comment	Legacy Character: A few were introduced for Kraven (The Grim Hunter), Doctor Octopus (Lady Octopus), and the Rose. The Grim Hunter got killed by Kaine, Lady Octopus only lasted a few years before the classic Doc Ock returned (though she later turned up in Spider-Girl), and the new Rose only lasted about as long as Lady Octopus. Phil Urich became the fourth Green Goblin, but he was trying to be a hero. He got his own short-lived series, kicked around the main universe and became a recurring character in Spider-Girl. An oddball version happened in "The Trial of Peter Parker" when Ben decided to swap places with Peter in jail. Since Peter didn't have his costume and running around as himself would be stupid, he would spend time as the Scarlet Spider. Another character in the Rose's identity was introduced. This was not Richard Fisk, although a villain makes it a point by listing the previous identities. However, the new Rose was eventually revealed as Daily Bugle reporter Jacob Conover ("ASM" #436).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca3a6dbd	type	Informed Ability
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca3a6dbd	comment	Informed Ability: The writers tried to make The Jackal out to be so great at manipulating people that, during "Smoke & Mirrors", Peter and Ben say that refusing to trust him would be to call into question everything they've ever known. Here's the problem: at no point does the Jackal ever come across as remotely trustworthy. Throughout "Smoke & Mirrors", the Jackal does little more than spout off Blatant Lies that are Instantly Proven Wrong, and he says everything in such a smarmy, jokey manner that it's hard to take seriously anything he says. This makes it more than a little baffling that Peter and Ben would keep trusting him on his word.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca3ef034	type	Evil Knockoff
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca3ef034	comment	Evil Knockoff: Kaine is an evil clone of Spiderman.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca95473c	type	Series Continuity Error
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ca95473c	comment	Series Continuity Error: Spectacular Spider-Man saw Ben go after the Lizard during the events of Onslaught. However, Sensational, Amazing, and "Adjectiveless" Spider-Man saw Spider-Man get involved in the events of Onslaught, making them a Red Skies Crossover. Of course, this is not counting the retcons of the retcons of the first Clone Saga. It should be noted that in the main Onslaught crossover miniseries, none of the two Spider-Men were ever present.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_caf89e54	type	Taking You with Me
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_caf89e54	comment	Taking You with Me: In the Spider-Man: Redemption issues #3-4, Kaine decides to kill himself, taking Ben and Janine with him, by exploding a diner. This fails.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_cc7fae30	type	Outside-Context Problem
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_cc7fae30	comment	Outside-Context Problem: Judas Traveller and Scrier. Apparently no-one really knew what was going on with them, and while ideas were proposed—such as Traveller being a Fallen Angel and Scrier being Mephisto—ultimately Traveller was just an illusionist who bought into his own hype and started believing he could actually control time, and Scrier was really a group of individuals in a cult who all wear the same masks, apart from the lead Scrier, who was Norman Osborn himself... got all that? In Scarlet Spider Unlimited #1, who else got involved with the Clone Saga? The High Evolutionary, who isn't someone usual for Spider-Man's corner, featuring more in Avengers or X-Men stories.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ceec4df5	type	Roaring Rampage of Revenge
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ceec4df5	comment	Roaring Rampage of Revenge: One issue of Spider-Man Unlimited has a new Sinister Six band together in order to try and kill Kaine before he kills them. Neither of them get the chance to do the deed.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d01cffbc	type	Badass Longcoat
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d01cffbc	comment	Badass Longcoat: The first thing Nineties Jackal grabs after emerging from his cloning pod.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d08595d3	type	Broken Bird
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d08595d3	comment	Broken Bird: Janine Godbe/Elizabeth Tyne from Lost Years and Redemption minis. Big time. At least she won and had a "keepsake" in Spider-Girl! (Sort of).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d39e327f	type	What the Hell, Hero?
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d39e327f	comment	What the Hell, Hero?: Peter and Aunt May give this to each other: May gives this to Peter for being Spider-Man, and Peter gives it to May for hiding that she believed Richard was still alive. Nick Fury gets this, courtesy from Mary Jane and the Fantastic Four, for his intent to lock Peter away and how far he was willing to go for it.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d5437212	type	DoesNotLikeWomen
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d5437212	comment	Does Not Like Women: One of the guests who stands up to Norman is his daughter-in-law Liz Allan. It earns her a hard backhand and a "Silence, cow!", along with a rant about how she ruined his son's life and made him a weakling.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d62dd556	type	The Chessmaster
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d62dd556	comment	A slight inversion in Norman Osborn, who was not resurrected only to be killed again. Instead, he got promoted to the series' arch-manipulator and Villain with Good Publicity (as opposed to a lunatic Mad Bomber), as well as cementing his place as the Arch-Enemy of Spider-Man. Over the next decade or so his threat hangs over Peter and his supporting cast and he ends up ruining many of their lives, or doing his damnest to at least.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d9c4365c	type	Reset Button
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_d9c4365c	comment	Reset Button: In 1995, Aunt May dies of a heart attack (but only after revealing that she always knew Peter Parker was Spider-Man). This too was poignant. In 1998, Norman admits to kidnapping Aunt May, replacing her with a genetically altered elderly actress and keeping the real May alive in a warehouse for absolutely no damn reason.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_da0eeab5	type	Breakout Character
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_da0eeab5	comment	Averted at first but eventually played straight. The Clone Saga was filled with attempts to create Breakout Characters. None of them took off. On the other hand, the Clone Saga gave us What If? v2 #105, which gave us Spider-Girl.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_da76b18	type	Hijacked by Ganon
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_da76b18	comment	Hijacked by Ganon: In "Revelations", it turned out the entire event had been orchestrated by Norman Osborn.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_db71d717	type	Thanatos Gambit
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_db71d717	comment	Thanatos Gambit: With his dying breath, the Jackal says, "When the dream ends, the nightmare begins." This activates a hypnotic suggestion in Peter's mind, compelling him to try and murder MJ.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dba4ae4f	type	Arc Welding
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dba4ae4f	comment	Arc Welding: The murders Kaine committed that Peter was later blamed for happened at the same time as the events of Kraven's Last Hunt, so Peter didn't have an alibi for the murders unless he blew his secret identity.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dbca2c99	type	Red Herring
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dbca2c99	comment	Red Herring: The Spider-Man skeleton left behind in the smokestack. It turned out to be the 'original' Ben Reilly, later replaced with a second clone by the Jackal.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dcb9c541	type	Ship Tease
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_dcb9c541	comment	Ship Tease: Spider-Man Unlimited #11 is a big ship tease for the Ben Reilly/Black Cat pairing: there's mutual flirting between the two, Ben admires Cat's beauty and personality, and Cat is very touchy-feely with Ben.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ddf4698	type	Pulling Themselves Together
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ddf4698	comment	Pulling Themselves Together: During "Maximum Clonage", Spidercide turns his body into water and tries to drown Ben Reilly, but he breaks free, cracking Spidercide's body into fragments. Joking about his situation, he slowly reassembles himself.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_df5dbc6	type	Toy Time
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_df5dbc6	comment	Toy Time: A non-video game example. Amazing Spider-Man #413 has Ben Reilly shrunk to toy-size and tossed into a kid's bedroom. Some of the foes he fights are toys.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e003c829	type	History Repeats
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e003c829	comment	History Repeats: Ben is impaled and tumbles to the ground in a manner similar to Norman/Gwen. Also, he explicitly refers to himself as "Uncle Ben" as he dies (a reference to Peter's daughter).
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e2e69f43	type	Tainted Veins
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e2e69f43	comment	Tainted Veins: A sure sign of impending clone death.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e4965307	type	Composite Character
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e4965307	comment	Composite Character: Ultimate Spider-Woman was given the name Jessica Drew Ã la the original version, her costume is based on the one wore by Julia Carpenter/Spider-Woman II/Arachne, and the red highlight stem from Ben Reilly's Scarlet Spider costume The latter is kinda fitting as this incarnation is basically a Gender Flipped version of Ben Reilly. Ultimate Kaine is wearing a messed-up version of Ben's Spider-Man costume. The MJ-Goblin creature is Ultimate Demogoblin. While one of the clones is identified as Tarantula, his spider-like features and six arms bring to mind the "sort of" Spidey clone Doppelganger.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5421161	type	Expy
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5421161	comment	Expy: The new Jackal is transparently patterned on The Joker in both looks and temperament. He never stops cracking wise, and his death scene is a literal pratfall.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e567510d	type	Determinator
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e567510d	comment	Determinator: Peter is made to think his entire life is a lie. While he initially has a Freak Out, he comes to terms with it and moves on from there. Norman points this out:
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5d8460d	type	Unexplained Recovery
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5d8460d	comment	Unexplained Recovery: During the Scarlet Spider story arc The Exile Returns, the female symbiote Scream makes her return, despite apparently dying in the Venom: Lethal Protector miniseries where she debuted. Her role in this storyline is in part to help set up the Venom: Separation Anxiety miniseries, where it is explained how she survived.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5f568e6	type	Furnace Body Disposal
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e5f568e6	comment	Furnace Body Disposal: Peter drops the body of the clone down a smokestack.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e63228a7	type	InfoDump
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e63228a7	comment	Info Dump: See Motive Rant. Glenn Greenberg was permitted to pen a one-off issue, The Osborn Journal, to tie up all of Norman's loose ends and explain why he'd been hiding in Europe all these years and masterminded the whole Saga.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e780f603	type	Clone Angst
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e780f603	comment	Clone Angst: Again, it is a version of the Clone Saga, so this is expected between Ben and Kaine, who like in the original, lament their status as clones. Averted with the Norman clone, whose lamentations revolve around the person the original Norman's actions turned Harry into.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e7b0229a	type	Laser-Guided Amnesia
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e7b0229a	comment	Laser-Guided Amnesia: The Jackal uses a serum to alter the "RNA cells" (just go with it) that affect memory. This is why clones have no recollection of their deaths, or even being cloned in the first place.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e7bfdba	type	Divide and Conquer
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e7bfdba	comment	Divide and Conquer: In "Revelations", Osborn orders Mendel Stromm to keep Ben Reilly and Peter Parker busy and away from Mary Jane while she is in labour.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_e9702c83	comment	Opposite-Sex Clone: Ultimate Spider-Woman is a female clone of Spider-Man.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ea5c413d	comment	Biting-the-Hand Humor: Word of God says that the Bugle scenes contain several jabs at Marvel management for its handling of this storyline. In particular, Jameson has a run-in with businessman Roderick Kingsley at a gala; he offers (unsolicited) advice on how to reinvigorate the ailing newspaper: "Sell the majority of your shares to the public!" (Marvel tried that in 1991, leading to their bankruptcy five years later.)
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_eb5cbe42	comment	Me's a Crowd: The objective behind the Jackal's "Carrion Bomb" is to turn the entire world's population into clones of Peter Parker. Not clones of the Jackal himself, or even a billion Gwen Stacys; just Peter Parker. As mentioned above, he's crazy, so it doesn't have to make sense.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_eba3a2d1	comment	Phil Urich became the fourth Green Goblin, but he was trying to be a hero. He got his own short-lived series, kicked around the main universe and became a recurring character in Spider-Girl.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_ecac4c42	comment	Why Won't You Die?: After the part where Peter removes his and Norman's masks, Norman finally asks this.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_f1492605	comment	Redemption Equals Death: Granted, it was a problem the Jackal started, but... The Gwen clone tears apart Miles Warren's Jackal mask, which somehow breaks him out of this villain mentality, giving enough time for him to release Ned Leeds, but not enough time to escape the explosion. Since then, Miles Warren is believed dead.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_f8e010ce	type	Evil Cannot Comprehend Good
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_f9876f7e	comment	Faking the Dead: In this version of events, Harry does this so he could prepare for his plans here.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_f9c3ecc6	type	Series Fauxnale
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_f9c3ecc6	comment	Series Fauxnale: The mini-series works as an open-ended one for the Spider-Man saga. The Osborn/Parker feud is resolved, at least for now, with Harry incarcerated, Aunt May is still alive, and Peter and Mary Jane are parents with Peter presumably semi-retired, and Ben opts to leave New York behind and resume life on the road. There is room for new stories down the road should Marvel choose to tell them.
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The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_fff371b4	type	Death Seeker
The Clone Saga (Comic Book) / int_fff371b4	comment	Death Seeker: In Spider-Man: Redemption mini-series, Kaine tries to push Ben Reilly over the edge to kill him, and, failign that, attempts a Suicide by Cop.
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