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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints

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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints is a 2006 Coming of Age Story, based on director Dito Montiel's memoirs of his childhood in Astoria, New York. The film has two narratives - the present day in 2005 and Dito's teen years in 1986.Dito in the present day is now a successful musician and writer but has been estranged from his family for fifteen years. He is persuaded to return to his hometown with the news that his father is ill. He reflects on the summer of 1986, where he dated a girl called Laurie, he befriended a Scottish immigrant called Mike and his best friend Antonio was at constant odds with a local Puerto Rican gang.A Guide To Recognizing Your Saints freely breaks the fourth wall, employing a few curious Postmodernism tricks along the way -including having excerpts from the script captioned on-screen, while the actors are saying their lines. Dito freely tells us who will die before he properly starts the story too.The film stars Robert Downey Jr. as the older Dito - right before his Career Resurrection as Iron Man. Shia LaBeouf stars as the teenage Dito - right before his Star-Making Role in Transformers. Channing Tatum stars as Antonio - right before his own Star-Making Role in Step Up. Melonie Diaz stars as Laurie - right before her Star-Making Role in Be Kind Rewind. Chazz Palminteri, Dianne Wiest and Rosario Dawson (who were already stars) also feature as Dito's parents, and the older Laurie respectively.
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Age Lift
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Age Lift: Dito was fourteen around when the 80s events took place in real life. He's sixteen in the film.
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I Was Quite a Looker
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I Was Quite a Looker: The adult versions of Nerf and Antonio aren't quite as hunky as the teen versions.
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The Runaway
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The Runaway: Dito frequently spends hours out in the middle of the night and comes home with cuts and bruises on his face. He ultimately runs away and disappears for fifteen years.
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Tempting Fate
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When Dito first starts talking about going to California, Monti responds "you're not going anywhere." Tempting Fate again.
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Green-Eyed Monster
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Green-Eyed Monster: Antonio is clearly a little jealous at Dito hanging around with Mike.
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Breaking the Fourth Wall
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Breaking the Fourth Wall: Done by Laurie, Jenny, Diane, Nerf, Giuseppe and Antonio in a sequence early on in the film.
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Parents as People
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Parents as People: Flori gives Dito this talk after his argument with his father in the present. The film also examines the fact that Monti viewed his son as more of a best friend, which negatively affected their relationship as Dito got older.
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Crapsack World
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Crapsack World: The neighbourhood is rough, with gangs ambushing people in the street and all the residents miserable. Dito is desperate to escape it in his teens. However in the present day, it's subverted as Dito finds beauty in the place despite this.
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Ambiguously Brown: Jenny doesn't appear to be the same race as her friends Laurie and Diane - who are both played by Latina actresses and come from the Puerto Rican neighborhood. Eleonore Hendricks however is mixed Native American, so it's unclear if Jenny is the same race as her actress, a tanned white girl or a fairer skinned Puerto Rican (she in fact couldn't play Laurie because she didn't have the same background as Rosario Dawson). Or perhaps all three.
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Ironic Echo
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Ironic Echo: Monti's lecture about Antonio not having anyone to tell him they love him first happens as Monti is invoking It's All About Me which drives Dito to finally leave town. It is replayed in a much kinder light, as An Aesop just as Dito visits Antonio in prison.
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Only Sane Man
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Only Sane Man: Mike is the only one of the main characters who doesn't get into a fight and seems to be well-adjusted. Laurie counts to a lesser extent.
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Anachronism Stew
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Anachronism Stew: Ignoring the liberties Dito Montiel took with his own story, we have a couple in the flashbacks to the 80s. American flags can be seen next to the subway windows. These weren't added in until after 9/11 in 2001. Additionally a 9/11 conspiracy flyer can be seen in one shot. Additionally, the shot from the subway showing the rooftops of New York shows lots of modern cell phone towers. The red hand/green hand lights can be seen at the pedestrian crossings. In the 80s, they were still using the 'Walk/Don't Walk' lights. The store where Antonio beats the Reaper to death is selling Listerine Pocketpacks breath strips. These weren't on the market until the 2000s. Dito and Mike walk by Mama's Food Shop on the way to Frank's. This didn't open until 1995. A Verizon pay phone can be seen when Frank is walking with Dito and Mike. Verizon didn't set up until 2000.
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Mythology Gag
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Mythology Gag: Dito in the 80s portions says a couple of times that he'd like to start a band. In real life he was part of a punk rock band for a while.
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Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow
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Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow: Laurie in the 1980s has waist-length hair, and shoulder-length hair in the 2000s.
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Disappeared Dad
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Disappeared Dad: When Dito meets Laurie all grown up, she has a son and says that his father isn't around anymore.
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Limited Wardrobe
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Limited Wardrobe: Both the brothers, possibly to show how neglectful their father is. Antonio always wears the same green shirt worn open with baggy pants, except for his Shirtless Scenes and wearing a slightly less tatty white shirt at Giuseppe's funeral. Giuseppe only wears a white t-shirt or the blue one.
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Shower of Angst
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Shower of Angst: Dito is about to have one after Mike is shot.
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Dead Guy Junior
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Dead Guy Junior: Dito alludes to this when he meets Laurie's son.
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Adapted Out
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Adapted Out: Antonio and Giuseppe had a younger brother called Angelo, whose role is given to Mike in the film. Dito also had two older sisters who aren't referenced in the film.
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Cluster F-Bomb
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Cluster F-Bomb: Antonio, Diane and Jenny rattle off a lot of F-bombs.
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Anguished Declaration of Love
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Anguished Declaration of Love: Dito (while stoned) declares his love for Laurie right after he's said "I want to lick your pussy".
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Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism
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Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism: The film begins on the cynical side, but ends on the idealistic. Word of God is that the story is about discovering beauty and love in harsh environments. Which is what the title represents.
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Foregone Conclusion
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Foregone Conclusion: The audience is told right away that Dito will end up leaving all his friends. To a lesser extent, viewers will notice the conspicuous absence of Mike and Giuseppe in the present day scenes.
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Took a Level in Kindness
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Took a Level in Kindness: Antonio by the end.
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Adaptational Heroism
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Adaptational Heroism: The movie softens Antonio a little compared to the book, where he escaped from prison, committed another crime and then got sent back. Word of God is that he didn't want Antonio to seem too unsympathetic. Giuseppe is made into a more pitiable character who ultimately dies a very tragic death in contrast to real life where he got deported for being a career criminal.
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Big Brother Bully
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Big Brother Bully: Antonio to Giuseppe, as he's seen slapping him around a little. Dito's narration claims that he called Gisueppe his little sister because he wore face cream to bed.
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Balcony Wooing Scene
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Balcony Wooing Scene: Parodied. Dito climbs up Laurie's fire escape while incredibly stoned, his 'wooing' amounts to saying "I'm gonna lick your pussy" and it's unclear if he actually meant it when he said "I love you".
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Gag Echo
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Gag Echo: See Running Gag for the context, but Dito's line when he reunites with Laurie? "Didn't you use to be a swimmer?"
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Shirtless Scene: Adult Dito gets one while receiving a voicemail from Nerf.
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Jerk with a Heart of Gold
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Jerk with a Heart of Gold: Most of the characters are deeply flawed in some way, but they all desperately want to escape their situations, and care for each other in their own way. Mike and Flori are probably the only characters that don't have a jerk side to them.
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Bait the Dog
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Bait the Dog: Frank initially appears to be friendly and welcoming, if a little quirky. But when the time comes for Mike and Dito to ask him to pay them the money he owes them, he pulls a gun on them.
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Would Hurt a Child
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Would Hurt a Child: Antonio antagonises The Reaper's little brother, and is implied to hit him - we're given a Gory Discretion Shot and the sound of trash cans crashing, suggesting he could have just kicked the can and scared the boy off.
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The Stinger
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The real Monti and Dito cameo in The Stinger.
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Death by Adaptation
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Death by Adaptation: Both Giuseppe and Mike are killed in the film, but their real life counterparts lived. They're combined with actual people who died.
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PostModernism
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Postmodernism: In one of the flashbacks to 1980 Dito, Jenny, Diane, Nerf and Laurie address the camera to announce some Foregone Conclusions. Another stylistic choice is to have actions and lines of dialogue repeat over themselves, presumably to show the effect of reminiscing. The script lines also appear on screen sometimes, presumably as passages from Dito's book.
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Most Writers Are Writers
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Most Writers Are Writers: Dito is a writer in real life, and the film is a dramatised version of his memoirs. Mike is also the son of a writer, and desires to become one himself.
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Male Frontal Nudity
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Male Frontal Nudity: Giuseppe from afar in a scene early in the film - where he walks around naked outside the school.
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Broad Strokes
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Broad Strokes: Ironically enough, given that it's based off the director's own memoirs, but a lot of characters are combined, some are killed off and others spared. It's more loosely inspired by his real experiences.
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Scotireland
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Scotireland: Mike is Scottish but the other characters frequently mistake him for Irish, presumably because 'Michael O'Shea' sounds like a more stereotypical Irish name. The real Mike actually is Irish.
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Beta Couple
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5941d75
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Beta Couple: Subverted. Antonio and Jenny - best friends to Alpha Couple Dito and Laurie - look like they're hitting it off. But then Jenny disappears from the narrative.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5941d75
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_598513bb
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Foolish Sibling, Responsible Sibling
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_598513bb
comment
Foolish Sibling, Responsible Sibling: Downplayed. While Antonio is hardly what you'd call responsible, he's considerably more grounded and sociable than Giuseppe.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_598513bb
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5ac47fa6
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Erudite Stoner
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5ac47fa6
comment
Erudite Stoner: Mike has a lot of weed, plus a lot of wisdom.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5ac47fa6
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_5ac47fa6
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_60fa92ac
type
Names to Run Away from Really Fast
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_60fa92ac
comment
Names to Run Away from Really Fast: The Puerto Rican gang leader calls himself 'The Reaper'.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_60fa92ac
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_60fa92ac
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_63b02752
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Hair-Trigger Temper
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_63b02752
comment
Hair-Trigger Temper: Diane appears to have one, evidenced when she throws a bottle at a Puerto Rican who threatens Dito.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_63b02752
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_63b02752
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_66dfe36a
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Missing Mom
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_66dfe36a
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Missing Mom: Antonio and Giuseppe don't appear to have a mother.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_66dfe36a
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_66dfe36a
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_69681e01
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Big Brother Instinct
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_69681e01
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Big Brother Instinct: Exploited by Giuseppe when he sits on the train tracks, daring Antonio to save him. Unfortunately then the train comes in.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_69681e01
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_69681e01
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6bd7b49a
type
Spicy Latina
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6bd7b49a
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Spicy Latina: Although Laurie has some sass, she's more subdued. Her friend Diane on the other hand is a Cluster F-Bomb who screams every other sentence.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6bd7b49a
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6bd7b49a
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6d332aea
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Driven to Suicide
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6d332aea
comment
Driven to Suicide: Played with. Giuseppe sits down on the train tracks, daring Antonio to save him. He looks as if he tries to get up just as the train comes - but he's too late.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6d332aea
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6d332aea
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6ec4232f
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Casting Gag
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6ec4232f
comment
Casting Gag: Rosario Dawson plays a character who dies of AIDS (although they're still alive by movie's end). They had previously played a character in RENT who also died from AIDS.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6ec4232f
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_6ec4232f
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_707bb8ce
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Pair the Spares
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_707bb8ce
comment
Pair the Spares: Subverted. Giuseppe seems like he's interested in Diane - since Dito is with Laurie, and Antonio tries to court Jenny - but she won't have anything to do with him.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_707bb8ce
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_707bb8ce
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_722b3319
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Camp Gay
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_722b3319
comment
Camp Gay: Frank fits this trope to a T.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_722b3319
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_722b3319
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_729c69f3
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Politically Incorrect Villain
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_729c69f3
comment
Politically Incorrect Villain: Antonio is racist towards Puerto Ricans and homophobic.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_729c69f3
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_729c69f3
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_72ce3f54
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Adaptation Relationship Overhaul
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_72ce3f54
comment
Adaptation Relationship Overhaul: Monti and Flori eventually divorced in real life, but still appear to be married in the 2000s portions. There is however a flashback scene in which Flori is seen walking out of the house after an argument with Monti - so they could be divorced in the present day too.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_72ce3f54
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7453bc5b
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Spared by the Adaptation
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7453bc5b
comment
Spared by the Adaptation: The real Laurie died of AIDS two years before Dito returned to Astoria. She's alive and well in the film, the real Dito confessing to making this something of a Fix Fic. Flori had also passed away by the time the film was released, but is still alive and healthy in 2005.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7453bc5b
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7453bc5b
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7815ba15
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N-Word Privileges
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7815ba15
comment
N-Word Privileges: Frank, who is gay himself, uses the word 'fag' several times.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7815ba15
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7815ba15
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7a163538
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Brooklyn Rage
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7a163538
comment
Brooklyn Rage: Pretty much everyone in the area is hot-tempered, except for Flori. It's quite telling that the Only Sane Man is the Scottish teen.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7a163538
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7e74d66f
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Politically Correct History
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7e74d66f
comment
Politically Correct History: Downplayed. The more antagonistic characters use words considered slurs in the 2000s that the more sympathetic characters appear to be uncomfortable with. Mike in particular is uncomfortable with Antonio's homophobia - when 'faggot' would not have been considered as offensive in the 80s.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7e74d66f
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7ef728b1
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Tsundere
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7ef728b1
comment
Tsundere: Antonio is a Type A. He's violent and Jerkass most of the time, but Monti brings out his softer side. He does have a sort of twisted protectiveness towards Dito. Laurie is a Type B. She's usually calm and composed, but certain things will provoke her to get a bit angrier. Notably in the window scene, she appears to be grinning when she sees Dito has come to see her, but immediately pretends to be angry with him.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7ef728b1
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7ef728b1
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7efd2e30
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Expository Hairstyle Change
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7efd2e30
comment
Expository Hairstyle Change: Present day Dito's hair is worn pushed back when he's feeling confident or guarded. When he has to get vulnerable - his talk with Laurie and the "did you love me or not" scene with Monti - it's in his eyes. Antonio's hair having grown to shoulder length helps code him being kinder in the future. Laurie's hair shortening in adulthood is accompanied by a lot more bluntness and wisdom.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7efd2e30
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7efd2e30
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7f080f98
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Vague Age
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7f080f98
comment
Vague Age: It's not said exactly how old Antonio is in flashbacks. He's not seen attending school so he could be in his early twenties. Further blurring the lines is his younger self being played by a 26-year-old - while fifteen years later he's played by a fifty-year-old.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7f080f98
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_7f080f98
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8042e814
type
Actually Pretty Funny
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8042e814
comment
Actually Pretty Funny: A very stoned Dito tells Laurie "I'm just gonna lick your pussy". She clearly finds this hilarious, and reminds Dito that her mother can overhear them.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8042e814
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8042e814
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8411ab92
type
Red Oni, Blue Oni
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8411ab92
comment
Red Oni, Blue Oni: Characters are divided into two groups. Antonio, Diane, Monti, Frank and Giuseppe are red - all hot-tempered, passionate, outgoing and with very large tempers. Dito, Laurie, Nerf, Mike, Flori and possibly Jenny are blue - more caring, calm, composed and empathetic.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8411ab92
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8411ab92
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_85557b38
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Reality Is Unrealistic
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_85557b38
comment
Reality Is Unrealistic: When Dito says Nerf's father is black, he counters that he's Dominican. Although the majority of the Dominican Republic are descended from African slaves (the average Dominican is 40% West African), they do have a history of downplaying their African heritage - preferring to call themselves trigueños (mestizos) or even 'Indians'. What with the film being made by one of Nerf's close friends in real life, presumably this was intentional.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_85557b38
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_85557b38
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_863fa679
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What Happened to the Mouse?
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_863fa679
comment
What Happened to the Mouse?: Laurie's friends Jenny and Diane are shown as part of the group early on, but they disappear after Giuseppe throws a knife at Diane (besides a brief appearance at the funeral). They're last seen with Laurie at the pool, but nothing is said about what becomes of them. Frank likewise doesn't get namechecked in the present day portions, though he was still alive for Anthony DeSando to do research on him.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_863fa679
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_863fa679
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_868409c
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Broken Pedestal
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_868409c
comment
Broken Pedestal: Mike and Dito seem to think of Frank as a cool older guy, but it's clear their image of him is shattered when he stops paying them for helping him and threatens them with a gun. Dito gradually has his image of his father shattered as he realises Monti's narcissistic It's All About Me attitude.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_868409c
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_868409c
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b67aba7
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Cerebus Retcon
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b67aba7
comment
Cerebus Retcon: Monty's speech of "you want China, you go to Chinatown" is first said as a playful jab at the teens. Later he says it in a far more dramatic scene when Dito tries to tell him he wants to leave.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b67aba7
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b6e8d7
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Anachronic Order
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b6e8d7
comment
Anachronic Order: In some flashbacks, we hear the lines spoken before they're actually said.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_8b6e8d7
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9400b3b5
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Questionable Consent
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9400b3b5
comment
Questionable Consent: Jenny is seen telling Antonio that she doesn't want to do it. Cut to him making passes at her, and she's going along with it.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9400b3b5
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_957e5fc2
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Villainous Breakdown
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_957e5fc2
comment
Villainous Breakdown: If you consider Monti a villain, then his meltdown in the shower definitely qualifies.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_957e5fc2
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_98b5f82b
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Basement-Dweller
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_98b5f82b
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Basement-Dweller: Nerf in the present day is still living with his mother. It's clear he hates the situation, but doesn't know how to improve it. Word of God is that the real guy eventually became an ambulance driver and is "doing great".
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_98b5f82b
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9d12bbc1
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Foreshadowing
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9d12bbc1
comment
Foreshadowing: In an early scene where Dito leaves Laurie to have a spin in Nerf's car, she calls out "don't leave me." When Dito first starts talking about going to California, Monti responds "you're not going anywhere." Tempting Fate again. In the present, a phone call with the real Antonio is heard where he says he can't do anything for Monti where he is. He means he's in prison.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9d12bbc1
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9de7a5d0
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Fix Fic
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9de7a5d0
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The real Laurie died of AIDS two years before Dito returned to Astoria. She's alive and well in the film, the real Dito confessing to making this something of a Fix Fic.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_9de7a5d0
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a4c37cbe
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Mood Whiplash
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a4c37cbe
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Mood Whiplash: When Mike is introduced to the class, he reads a philosophical poem...only to burst out laughing when he sees Giuseppe walking around stark naked outside.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a4c37cbe
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a679184b
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Due to the Dead
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a679184b
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Due to the Dead: Although Diane hated Giuseppe, she attends his funeral and can be seen looking very sombre.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a679184b
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a7ddc88e
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The Cobbler's Children Have No Shoes
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a7ddc88e
comment
The Cobbler's Children Have No Shoes: Monti is a surrogate father to Antonio and looks out for him repeatedly. However, he's hopelessly out of touch with what his own son wants and needs.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a7ddc88e
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a861560f
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The Friend Nobody Likes
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a861560f
comment
The Friend Nobody Likes: Giuseppe, Antonio's dumb younger brother. He's the most aggressive and hot-tempered of the gang, and Dito flat out admits that he doesn't like him.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a861560f
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a90fff3
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Based on a True Story
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a90fff3
comment
Based on a True Story: Dito Montiel wrote the film based on his own experiences, and that the characters are combinations of a handful of people he knew in real life.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a90fff3
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a90fff3
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a9645365
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Man Hug
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a9645365
comment
Man Hug: Dito and Antonio hug this way when they finally see each other after so long.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_a9645365
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aabe2fb
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Deliberate Values Dissonance
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aabe2fb
comment
Deliberate Values Dissonance: In the 80s portions, characters will freely say 'fag' and 'nigger'.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aabe2fb
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_ab5eea65
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Dramatic Irony
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_ab5eea65
comment
Dramatic Irony: Monti whispering "your dad is not stupid" in Antonio's ear is accompanied by a scene of Antonio's father beating him up.
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_ab5eea65
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_ab5eea65
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_af3ff126
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Idealized Sex
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_af3ff126
comment
Idealized Sex: Averted. Antonio and Jenny try to do it in the stairwell, but Jenny burns herself on the radiator. She's also reluctant to do it because she's all sweaty. And she repeatedly growls "you better not fucking cum in me!"
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_af3ff126
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 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aff29d6f
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Beauty, Brains and Brawn
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aff29d6f
comment
Beauty, Brains, and Brawn: Laurie (beauty), Jenny (brains) and Diane (brawn).
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_aff29d6f
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Abusive Parents
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Abusive Parents: Antonio's father frequently hits him. As Monti puts it when telling Dito he loves him "Antonio doesn't have anyone to tell these things to him." Dito's father is more verbally and emotionally abusive, displaying some very narcissistic attitudes towards him too. Dialogue in the present day suggests that Nerf's mother is emotionally abusive; trying to hide from her son on the street.
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Time-Shifted Actor
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Time-Shifted Actor: Robert Downey Jr and Shia Le Beouf as Dito. Rosario Dawson and Melonie Diaz as Laurie. Scott Campbell and Peter Tambakis as Nerf. Channing Tatum and Eric Roberts as Antonio.
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Real-Person Cameo
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Real Person Cameo: During a phone conversation between Dito and Antonio in the present, the real Antonio is the one speaking. If you listen closely to Dito's words, it's not Robert Downey Jr speaking. The real Monti and Dito cameo in The Stinger.
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Too Dumb to Live
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Too Dumb to Live: Giuseppe sitting on the train tracks, daring Antonio to come and help him.
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My Beloved Smother
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My Beloved Smother: Monti is a rare male example. It's strongly hinted that the reason he didn't want Dito to go anywhere is because he viewed him as a best friend rather than a son.
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Cycle of Revenge
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Cycle of Revenge: The Reaper spray paints Nerf's mother's store, Diane and Dito yell at him for it, he spray paints a death threat on Dito's house, Antonio intimidates his brother, he assaults Dito in the middle of the night, Antonio clubs one of his friends to death and the Reaper shoots Mike.
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Maybe Ever After
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Maybe Ever After: There's some kind of spark between Dito and Laurie when they reunite, although she's still very furious at him for leaving in the first place. Things are left open between them, the climax of the film instead focusing on Dito with his father and Antonio.
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Fiery Redhead
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Fiery Redhead: Inverted. The redhead is the Only Sane Man in contrast to the others.
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It's All About Me
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It's All About Me: Monti frequently tries to make his arguments with Dito all about him. Notably when Dito is trying to tell him that Mike was just shot dead, Monti is more concerned with reprimanding him for raising his voice.
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No Social Skills
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No Social Skills: Giuseppe either doesn't speak a word or says nothing but insults. He also has no problem walking around naked in public or throwing knives at people for fun.
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I Have No Son!
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I Have No Son!: Not spoken outright but it's strongly implied that this is how Dito and Monti left things right before Dito went to California.
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Nice, Mean, and In-Between
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Nice Mean And In Between: The three girls. Laurie is the sweet, grounded love interest. Diane is foul-mouthed, combative and drops the odd racial slur. Jenny is cynical and a little ball-busting, but gets on with the boys better than her friends. Dito's group too. He and Mike are nice and responsible, Antonio and Giuseppe are violent delinquents, and Nerf is involved in gang activities but not outwardly mean.
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UnluckyChildhoodFriend
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Unlucky Childhood Friend: Laurie and Dito never went anywhere, due to Dito leaving town. When he returns, she's now a mother but no sign of the baby's father.
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Informed Attribute
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Informed Attribute: In her fourth wall breaking, Diane says "I like to fuck", but she otherwise never displays any promiscuous tendencies. It's actually Jenny who has a brief sex scene. Jenny likewise says "everybody in this place is a fucking joke", implying she hates everyone. But she gets on better with the boys than Diane; she's not bothered by Giuseppe's taunts and stays at the party when he throws a knife at Diane.
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Horrible Judge of Character
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Horrible Judge of Character: Monti says to Antonio that his father "isn't stupid" and tries to defend him. Despite Flori reminding him that he's an abusive Jerkass.
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Fan Disservice
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Fan Disservice: The famous literal walking shirtless scene from Antonio is less titillating in context - as he's breaking the fourth wall and admitting what a "piece of shit" he is. Dito at one point is shirtless in the shower...as he's traumatized by Mike getting shot and has a blazing row with his father. Jenny's topless scene is decidedly unglamorous due to the Questionable Consent and how uncomfortable it appears to be between them.
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Shout-Out
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Shout-Out: Dito telling his girlfriend he loves her happens when he climbs up on a makeshift balcony. For added bonus, they're Star-Crossed Lovers in New York, involved in gang violence and the boy is white Italian while the girl is Puerto Rican.
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I Will Wait for You
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I Will Wait for You: Laurie claims she waited for a whole year after Dito left, convinced he would come back for her. She then gave up and had a baby with another man who isn't around anymore.
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Word of God
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The movie softens Antonio a little compared to the book, where he escaped from prison, committed another crime and then got sent back. Word of God is that he didn't want Antonio to seem too unsympathetic.
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Dude, Not Funny!
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Dude, Not Funny!: Giuseppe throws a knife at Diane as a joke, and Laurie calls Dito out assuming he thinks it's funny.
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Lighter and Softer
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Lighter and Softer: The film compared to the book. Though still quite gritty, it tones down a lot of the real life events. Antonio for instance escaped from prison, Giuseppe got deported for being a career criminal, Laurie died of AIDS, the kids frequently snuck into whore houses etc.
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Redhead in Green
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Redhead In Green: Mike wears a green t-shirt in one sequence in the film.
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Walking Shirtless Scene
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Walking Shirtless Scene: Antonio is always seen either completely shirtless or with an open shirt on. The only time he wears clothes properly is for Giuseppe's funeral. There's also a literal example early in the film where Antonio is walking down the street inexplicably shirtless.
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Rose-Tinted Narrative
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Rose-Tinted Narrative: Inverted. It's suggested that Dito may be viewing his past as worse than it actually was.
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Hypocrite
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Hypocrite: Diane is annoyed at Giuseppe throwing a knife at her (well technically just in her direction) when she had thrown things at other people on the street, and even threw a bottle at a gang member.
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Race Lift
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Race Lift: The real Laurie was white, but is Puerto Rican in the film. The other way around with Nerf. In real life he was a brown-skinned Dominican, but is played by a white guy. A line in the film however does say his father is Dominican, suggesting he's either adopted or white passing (as we never see his mother).
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here
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Screw This, I'm Outta Here: Dito is planning to leave town and finally does after Mike is shot by a Puerto Rican gang member.
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Chekhov's Gunman
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Chekhov's Gunman: The Puerto Rican gang member whose little brother Antonio antagonises and who later beats up Dito reappears to shoot Mike dead.
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Hilarious Outtakes
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Hilarious Outtakes: The end credits have some set to "Back in the New York Groove". They contain some shots of the adult Nerf and Antonio that didn't make the final cut.
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Color Wash
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Color Wash: The flashback scenes have a thick yellowish orange tint, presumably both to reflect the hot summer and the nostalgia.
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Composite Character
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Composite Character: Most of the characters are combinations of various people in Dito's life. Antonio for example is said to represent three different people.
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Calling the Old Man Out
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Calling the Old Man Out: Laurie tells Dito to do this. He eventually does.
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Star-Crossed Lovers
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Star-Crossed Lovers: Dito and Laurie are a downplayed example - in that they hang around together, have a clear attraction and Dito says he loves her. But her presence creates conflict in Dito's life, as she's Puerto Rican and he's currently being terrorized by Puerto Rican gang members. Dito's inability to admit his feelings for her while sober just drives them further apart. They reunite in the present day but it's left open whether they'll try again. Even worse - in real life, Laurie died before Dito got to reconnect with her.
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Meaningful Rename
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Meaningful Rename: Mike initially introduces himself as 'Mick' to Dito, suggesting that's what he was called back in Scotland, but then changes to Mike.
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The Oner
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The Oner: The end credits has a long take of Antonio, Dito, Nerf and Giuseppe walking down the street - where Laurie, Jenny and Diane can be seen looking at them in the background.
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Younger Than They Look
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Younger Than They Look: Flori alludes to people occasionally thinking Monti was Dito's grandfather.
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Gone Swimming, Clothes Stolen
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Gone Swimming, Clothes Stolen: In one of the final flashback scenes, Diane has gone swimming topless and some boy called Ronnie has stolen it.
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Jerkass
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_eb8ec7c8
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Antonio is a Type A. He's violent and Jerkass most of the time, but Monti brings out his softer side. He does have a sort of twisted protectiveness towards Dito.
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Moment Killer
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Moment Killer: Jenny and Antonio's quickie in the stairwell is killed both by Jenny burning herself off the radiator, and Giuseppe walking in on them.
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Historical Beauty Update
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Historical Beauty Update: Dito Montiel said that Antonio in real life looked very little like Channing Tatum. Subverted for Dito himself, as he did have a brief career as a model in real life.
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Running Gag
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Running Gag: People frequently mistake Laurie for a swimmer when she only works at the pool. When Dito reunites with her, he calls out "hey, didn't you use to be a swimmer?"
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Meta Casting
 A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints / int_fac4ff79
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Meta Casting: Robert Downey Jr. playing a man struggling with his personal demons, who also has to confront his past? And this was before he did so on a much larger scale.
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