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The Saga of Seven Suns
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A series of seven Space Opera Science Fiction novels by Kevin J. Anderson, set in the Milky Way in The Future. The principal players are (initially) the Terran Hanseatic League, governed with an iron fist by its dictatorial chairman, Basil Wenceslas; the Roamers, gypsies/opportunistic explorers in space; and the Ildirans, the light-loving, psychically linked inventors of the faster than light stardrive whose homeworld is illuminated by the titular seven suns. As the first novel unfolds, the Hydrogues, evil diamond-ship-using, gas-giant-dwelling aliens, and the World-Forest (initially just a fairly esoteric means of FTL communication) become major players.As the series progresses, other major protagonist groups are introduced including the Klikiss and their robot slaves, and the Faeros and Wentals, who, along with the Hydrogues and Verdani (the World-forest) form a fairly traditional war of the elements plot, without the typical Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors, however, as each is capable of fighting each of the others, and losing or winning, rather than one always beating the other.The series consists of seven books, and a prequel graphic novel: Prequel: Veiled Alliances (Graphic Novel) Book 1: Hidden Empire Book 2: A Forest of Stars Book 3: Horizon Storms Book 4: Scattered Suns Book 5: Of Fire And Night Book 6: Metal Swarm Book 7: The Ashes of WorldsA Sequel Series, The Saga of Shadows, ran from 2014-2016. Set a generation after the original series, it dealt with the continued fallout from those events amid the return of ancient horrors from Ildiran legend: The Dark Between the Stars Blood of the Cosmos Eternity's Mind | |
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Dirty Coward | |
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Dirty Coward: The Klikiss robots, for all their tough talk, wind up running from every battle where the other side isn't defenseless. | |
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Anyone Can Die | |
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Anyone Can Die: Though once established, main characters tend to scrape by fairly well, it can be hard to tell who's going to be important and who's going to die, what with the sheer size of the cast. | |
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Punctuation Shaker | |
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Punctuation Shaker: epitomised by the Ildirans, though it has some justification due to their ranks being denoted by the PunctuationShakers. Specifically, an Ildiran's personal name precedes an apostrophe, which is in turn followed by a letter or syllable that denotes what kith the Ildiran belongs to. All Ildiran names follow this convention. | |
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Forgotten Phlebotinum | |
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Forgotten Phlebotinum | |
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Crapsack World | |
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Crapsack World: Earth devolves gradually into one of these during the series, mostly because of Basil Wenceslas. The world on which Nira is imprisoned is another. | |
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Adaptation Expansion | |
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Adaptation Expansion: The novella version of Veiled Alliances. Anderson's stated he adapted the original graphic novel's script as a writing exercise. He had been away from Saga for half a decade and was understandably having trouble getting back into the world in preparation for The Saga of Shadows Trilogy. The novella is a faithful adaptation, but Anderson also added new material (that explicitly lays groundwork for the follow-up Trilogy). | |
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May–December Romance | |
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May–December Romance: The Ildiran Prime Designate Jora'h, who has adult children, and the teenage green priest Nira. Also the 70+ Basil Wencelas and 20-something Sarein, though romance may be the wrong word for their relationship. Anton and Vao'sh; Anton is in his 20s and Vao'sh is described as being an older man. | |
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Shiny-Looking Spaceships | |
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Shiny-Looking Spaceships: the Ildiran navy are decked out in solar sails and other shininess. Most of their time is spent on displays. | |
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Small Name, Big Ego | |
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Small Name, Big Ego: The Klikiss robots go on and on about how they killed their creators and are going to kill humans, and maybe Ilidirans. But they lose every major battle they are in, possibly because they were programmed to. | |
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Ax-Crazy | |
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Ax-Crazy: Hansa Chairman Basil Wencelas, who doesn't hesitate to have people killed for his convenience, and becomes more and more unhinged and bloodthirsty as the series progresses. Rusa'h after his head injury. Thor'h, the only Ildiran to willingly join Rusa'h's rebellion. | |
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Ramming Always Works | |
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Ramming Always Works: Ramming is the only thing that works, initially. The hydrogue warglobes could not be damaged by anything other then a ship being used as a giant missile. | |
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Starfish Aliens | |
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Starfish Aliens: The Elementals. | |
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Just Eat Gilligan | |
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Just Eat Gilligan: Jorah considers his father and grandfather's plan to breed a communicator between them and the hydrogues to be problematic. Hundreds of years and untold suffering on a gamble when they could have used that time to make better weapons to fight their enemy instead. | |
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Horde of Alien Locusts | |
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Horde of Alien Locusts: the Klikiss | |
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Batman Gambit | |
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Batman Gambit: Patrick Fitzpatrick III is sentenced to death by Del Kellum after he turns himself into the Roamers and confesses his war crimes against them. Just before Patrick can "walk the plank", Zhett Kellum (Del's daughter) intervenes and asks for leniency. Then Del cheerfully reveals that he was never going to kill Patrick, he was just trying to push Zhett into forgiving him. | |
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Face Death with Dignity | |
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Face Death with Dignity: Patrick Fitzpatrick III is sentenced to death by Del Kellum after turns himself into the Roamers and confesses his war crimes against them. Patrick accepts this without complaint, acknowledging that he deserves it, and is about to step off the "plank" when this is revealed to be a Secret Test of Character. | |
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Alien Sky | |
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Alien Sky: The title says it all, really. Ildira is BRIGHT. | |
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Elemental Embodiment | |
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Elemental Embodiment: Obviously. The gaseous hydrogues, the sun dwelling faeros, the earth and plant based verdani, and the living water creatures called wentals. | |
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Becoming the Mask | |
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Becoming the Mask: King Peter rises up to become a true king leading the people against the various evils of the galaxy. When Basil rants about "he's not even a real king!" one of his underlings muses "Maybe he is. More than we ever knew." | |
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Always Chaotic Evil | |
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Always Chaotic Evil: The Klikiss and their robots. The hydrogues and faeros, while hostile to terrestrial life, are more an example of Blue-and-Orange Morality. | |
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Smug Snake | |
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Smug Snake: Basil is certainly clever, and he starts off a borderline Magnificent Bastard, but as his prolonged Villainous Breakdown happens he gets much sloppier, and is solidly in this trope for much of the series. | |
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Broke Your Arm Punching Out Cthulhu | |
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Early on, the only known way to defeat the Hydrogues involved using ships as battering rams. | |
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The Empire | |
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The Empire: The Hansa (malevolent, though according to the exposition it is supposedly organised on a confederal/alliance basisnote being, in-universe, designed based on the Hansa of 14th-15th century northern Germany) and the Ildirans (more nuanced). | |
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Recycled IN SPACE! | |
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Recycled IN SPACE!: the Roamers are basically frontiersmen IN SPACE, not to mention the use of a traditional fantasy-style Elemental battles plot. | |
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Puppet King | |
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Puppet King: King Peter, and all the former monarchs of the Terran Hanseatic League. Peter refuses to stay this way and tries his best to be a real king, though he knows that Basil may have him killed for this. | |
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No Blood for Phlebotinum | |
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No Blood for Phlebotinum: Ekti, a form of hydrogen most often found in gas giants, is vital for stardrive fuel, and much of the conflict between the Hansa, Roamers and hydrogues is fought over the ekti supply. | |
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Perfectly Arranged Marriage | |
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Perfectly Arranged Marriage: Peter and Estarra. | |
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Heroic Sacrifice | |
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Heroic Sacrifice: Many times. Recently-demoted Tal O'nh becomes the first person to destroy a Hydrogue warglobe when he rams his warliner into it. Adar Kori'nh later repeats this with 49 ships stripped down to essential crew. Robb Brindle agrees to pilot the diving bell into Osquivel to try to negotiate with the Hydrogues, though he knows it's suicide. 343 fully-crewed Ildiran warliners are ready to do this to save Earth. Fortunately the Roamers, armed with Kotto Okiah's doorbells, show up in time. Villainous example when an unnamed Klikiss robot sacrifices itsef to give its leader Sirix enough time to escape. Sirix is baffled. | |
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Cosmic Horror Story | |
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Cosmic Horror Story: Borderline, and less so as the series goes on. Still, the hydrogues are initially presented as an uncaring and invincible force of nature, and humans as bit players in the elemental conflict. Played a bit straighter in the Sequel Series. | |
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Fantastic Slurs | |
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Fantastic Slurs: Hansa people call Roamers "Roachers." The Roamers call the Hansa "The Big Goose" and "Eddies." None of these is a compliment — though Eddies is sometimes used neutrally. | |
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Wrench Wench | |
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Wrench Wench: Zhett Kellum, Tasia Tamblyn. | |
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Big Bad Ensemble | |
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Big Bad Ensemble: Four of them (Basil, Sirix, Rusa'h, and the hydrogues) operating largely independently, though Basil and Sirix have a tense partnership at one point. | |
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Villain Decay | |
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Villain Decay: It becomes increasingly hard to take the Klikiss robots seriously as the series goes on and they lose battle after battle, even when they have superior forces. | |
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Obviously Evil | |
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Obviously Evil: The hulking black Klikiss robots, who say they have no memory of what wiped out their creator race... | |
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Summon Bigger Fish | |
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Summon Bigger Fish: Humanity's best hope for beating the hydrogues is to get other elementals as allies. | |
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom | |
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Earth-Shattering Kaboom: Well, moonshattering anyway, in Ashes of Worlds. The hydrogues initial attack is a response to the destruction of one of their worlds with the Klikiss Torch, which converts gas giants into stars. | |
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Psychic Link | |
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Psychic Link: Between ALL the Ildirans, between Green Priests and the Verdani, and particularly between Nira's children. | |
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The Federation | |
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The Federation: The Confederation. | |
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Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors | |
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Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors: Averted in that none of the four elemental species trump another merely because of their affinity. The hydrogues and faeros are matched while the verdani are weakest without human help. At least not initially. The Wentals Took a Level in Badass in the last book. | |
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Interspecies Romance | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_8485d41a | comment |
Interspecies Romance: between Nira and Jora'h. Also Anton Colicos and Remeberer Vao'sh, who form the only non-straight couple in the series. Yazra'h tries to initiate this with Anton, and is completely oblivious to why he isn't interested. | |
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Eldritch Abomination | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_8774fb47 | comment |
Eldritch Abomination: Hydrogues, faeros, wentals and verdani are borderline examples. The Shana Rei, mentioned in Ildiran legends and taking a central role in the Sequel Series are the genuine article. | |
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Always a Bigger Fish | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_88ebc539 | comment |
Always a Bigger Fish: The first appearance of the faeros. | |
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Space Elves | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_892c6fdc | comment |
Space Elves: The Ildirans, especially the long-lived, ethereally-beautiful royal kith. | |
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Protagonist-Centered Morality | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_89434320 | comment |
Protagonist-Centered Morality: Every chapter is written from the point of view of a character, and of course they always think they're right. | |
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Space Opera | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_89baee12 | comment |
Space Opera | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_90965cc7 | type |
Hive Mind | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_90965cc7 | comment |
Hive Mind: The thism is an incomplete example. Ildirans can act independently, but they're all connected together, instinctively know their place and obey the Mage-Imperator unless circumstances interfere. Rusa'h's thism is a straighter example. The elemental races are a straight example. | |
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Precursors | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_92286f7f | comment |
Precursors: The Klikiss have left behind ruins, strange technology, and powerful robots. They aren't all gone, though... | |
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Villainous Breakdown | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_957e5fc2 | comment |
Villainous Breakdown: Basil has a prolonged one beginning after the appearance of the Hydrogues proves he's not as on top of things as he thought, and getting worse from there. | |
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Hired to Hunt Yourself | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_967856d8 | comment |
Hired to Hunt Yourself: As a minor element, Eldred Cain. Basil asks him to investigate who the leak to the media of Estarra's pregnancy is, which is revealed when Basil asks about it in light of it also getting leaked that the King and Queen are in effective house arrest. Cain takes the opportunity when asked how the investigation is going to suggest the perpetrator must be very clever for it to be so hard to find leads. | |
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Never My Fault | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_973d220f | comment |
Never My Fault: Basil Wencelas increasingly becomes this as the series progresses. It gets bad enough that former Hansa Chairman Maureen 'Battleaxe' Fitzpatrick accuses him of being pathologically incapable of admitting any wrongdoing. | |
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Big Bad Duumvirate | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_978a82e6 | comment |
Big Bad Duumvirate: The Saga of Shadows has an alliance between the new Klikiss robot leader Exxos and the Shana Rei. | |
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Revenge Before Reason | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_97d97c28 | comment |
Revenge Before Reason: By the time of the fifth book Eldred Cain believes Chairman Wencelas has fallen victim to this when he attempts to abort Estarra's baby and force her to commit suicide. He flat-out tells his boss that he believes the Chairman has allowed the existing enmity between himself and King Peter to escalate into a personal vendetta. | |
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Half-Human Hybrid | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_a2cbad1 | comment |
Half-Human Hybrid: Nira's various children, the green priests, the various elemental incarnates, the various Verdani/Wental hybrids. The Ildirans have a breeding camp set up to produce these with various castes, as human genetic material produces Ildirans better at their inborn tasks. Nira's children were an attempt to strengthen the thism with her Green Priest telink ability. | |
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Evil Chancellor | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_a3c0d670 | comment |
Evil Chancellor: Basil Wenceslas plays with this. Officially, he's just the Prime Minister and answers to the King, but in practice the King is supposed to be a puppet. He gets closer and closer to this as the King assumes more power. | |
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Happiness in Slavery | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_a58802b7 | comment |
Happiness in Slavery: Debatable example with the Ildirans, who are genuinely unable to refuse a command from the Mage-Imperator, but worship him as a God. | |
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Four-Star Badass | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_ac928039 | comment |
Four-Star Badass: General Lanyan, commander of the Earth Defense Forces, is genuinely brave and capable. However he is also amoral and sadistic, making this a case of Villainous Valour. Adar Kori'nh is an old, obsolete soldier and he knows it, but that doesn't stop him from doing everything in his power to whip the Solar Navy into shape. Adar Zan'nh combines Kori'nh's tactical skills and willpower with a level of ingenuity and flexibility that even humans are impressed by. | |
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Weapon of Mass Destruction | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_b116ac06 | comment |
The hydrogues initial attack is a response to the destruction of one of their worlds with the Klikiss Torch, which converts gas giants into stars. | |
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Colony Drop | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_b3eecaae | comment |
Colony Drop: Jess Tamblyn's attack on Golgen involves hitting the gas giant with several comets. | |
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Humans Are Warriors | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c0f87dda | comment |
Humans Are Warriors: Which is why Adar Kori'nh takes a crash course in human military history. | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c34b316c | type |
Bee People | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c34b316c | comment |
Bee People: The Klikess are The Ildirans have a limited Hive Mind through the thism and castes for each function of their society, though the ruler is a male. | |
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Ape Shall Never Kill Ape | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c4835ce7 | comment |
Ape Shall Never Kill Ape: The Ildirans hold to this, due to the ''thism''. While it's painful to break, it's not an ironclad rule. | |
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Gunship Rescue | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c558da6a | comment |
Gunship Rescue: The Wetal-Strengthened/Chained Hydrogue Warglobes coming to the aid of the Confederation and Ildiran fleets above Golgen, in the second-to-last battle against the Faeros. Also a callback/ironic echo to the very first major Hydrogue attack. Also, during the battle for Earth the constant arrival of more and more factions. | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c5f0119c | type |
Insane Troll Logic | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c5f0119c | comment |
Insane Troll Logic: What you get when you ask a Klikiss robot to explain why they want to kill all humans. | |
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The Alliance | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_c8c968c3 | comment |
The Alliance: The Roamer clans, and later, the Confederation under King Peter. | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_cc4d190a | type |
Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu? | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_cc4d190a | comment |
Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?: It can be done by humans or Ildirans. Really, you're better off getting backup. Early on, the only known way to defeat the Hydrogues involved using ships as battering rams. | |
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Cassandra Truth | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_cf92fea8 | comment |
Cassandra Truth: Peter is strongly and vocally against using poorly understood Klikiss robot programming modules to create robot soldiers, but is overruled by Basil, who dismisses Peter as paranoid. | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_d0b95b85 | type |
Used Future | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_d0b95b85 | comment |
Used Future: Roamer ships invoke this aesthetic. | |
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Turned Against Their Masters | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_d355ba37 | comment |
Turned Against Their Masters: The Klikiss robots. And the Soldier compies, in later books. The Klikiss robots get complicated when it turns out they were meant to fight Klikiss, in a bid to control the Klikiss instinct to dominate. The Klikiss just didn't account for the possibility that the Klikiss robots would bring in alien races against them. | |
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Achilles' Heel | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_d7639dba | comment |
343 fully-crewed Ildiran warliners are ready to do this to save Earth. Fortunately the Roamers, armed with Kotto Okiah's doorbells, show up in time. | |
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Elaborate Underground Base | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_daef39ee | comment |
Elaborate Underground Base: Basil has one in the Whisper Palace. The Klikiss robots have one on Maratha. | |
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| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_de9047ac | type |
Gambit Pileup | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_de9047ac | comment |
Gambit Pileup: Each leader has their own idea of how best to save their people, however they define "their people." Mage-Imperator Jora'h takes note of this, because at least half of his plans are forced by someone else's dead hand. | |
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Insistent Terminology | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_e563bf09 | comment |
Insistent Terminology: Davlin Lotze prefers to be referred to as a "specialist in obscure details", not a spy. | |
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Human Aliens | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_f4aeb714 | comment |
Human Aliens: The Ildirans, except for some of the more specialized kiths, look very similar to humans; humans and Ildirans can even have children together. Thoroughly averted with the other alien species, though; you start with the klikiss, and then get to the elemental races where things get really weird. | |
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Forbidden Love | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_f64b5d46 | comment |
Forbidden Love: Jess Tamblyn and Cesca Peroni, at first because Cesca is engaged to Jess's brother Ross. After Ross's death, one obstacle after another comes in between them. They eventually realize that their love for each other was never that secret, and they could have thrown caution to the wind years ago. | |
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Blackmail Backfire | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_f70710ae | comment |
Blackmail Backfire: As Peter's power grows, an increasingly manic Basil has the families of major admirals and general held hostage to force them to obey him. During the final battle, when one of his chief generals refuses to fire on an unarmed enemy vessel, Basil threatens the man's wife. Instead of cowering, the general declares that anyone who's reduced to threatening innocent lives to get ahead is no true ruler, and switches sides, with many of his fellow officers following suit. | |
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Evil Cannot Comprehend Good | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_f8e010ce | comment |
Villainous example when an unnamed Klikiss robot sacrifices itsef to give its leader Sirix enough time to escape. Sirix is baffled. | |
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Running Gag | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_f9f2c33 | comment |
Running Gag: Kotto Okiah and his helper compies never stop trying to find opportunities to use the word "conundrum". | |
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Easy Evangelism | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_fab3235a | comment |
Easy Evangelism: The telink/thism network. Mind you, there are strong insinuations that it involves (possibly unintentional) brainwashing. And it also turns out to be as much a weakness as a strength, and gets a lot of humans killed by the faeros who would have otherwise been safe. | |
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Well-Intentioned Extremist | |
| The Saga of Seven Suns / int_fd4f8299 | comment |
Well-Intentioned Extremist: Cyroc'h, Udru'h. Basil Wenceslas starts out this way, but after breaking down, becomes less "well-intentioned" and more "It's All About Me." | |
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