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Anti-Hero Substitute
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Over the course of a long-running series, something happens to the main character. He loses his powers, makes a Heroic Sacrifice, or gets Older and Wiser and decides to retire. Sometimes they Dropped a Bridge on Him, or Put Him On A Bus. In a word, he's gone. But the story still goes on! His role is taken by a Suspiciously Similar Substitute, but one with a very different characterization. He's how the original hero would be if he were a Jerkass, Anti-Hero or (most commonly) '90s Anti-Hero. Depending on how he's portrayed, he may be a Replacement Scrappy (especially if the original character were good on his/her own and the fans already like him/her) or a refreshing change (often happens if the fans are tired of having to look at the same hero over and over again). Sometimes the substitute may even be liked more than the original. When the substitute is bad enough, there'll be often a storyline where the original hero is back and will have to fight the substitute for the position and wins. The substitute is then reduced to a villain (either minor or major) or just a minor hero. Alternatively, said substitute may be Rescued from the Scrappy Heap by giving them Character Development and/or (when said substitute took the original's name) a name change. This happened a lot during The Dark Age of Comic Books. Back then, it was common to presumptuously expect readers to like the new character, but writers have gotten savvier since then. Now, the Darker and Edgier version of the hero is commonly portrayed as a villain or a psychopath (or, sometimes, be redeemed), as the '90s Anti-Hero archetype has grown less popular over time. Some heroes were put through this in order to show why a hero shouldn't become Darker and Edgier as a subtle Take That! to the fandom. For example, Super Patriot replaced Captain America temporarily in the 1980's to show that the Cap'n wasn't the jingoistic, nationalistic unthinking supporter of the United States government some fans thought he was or wanted him to be. Sub-Trope of Suspiciously Similar Substitute. May overlap with Costume Copycat. Could be an El Cid Ploy gone bad. Contrast with the Redeeming Replacement. Might be designed as a Temporary Scrappy, which is a purposefully dislikable character that enters and goes in a short span. Compare Corrupted Character Copy, which is similar to this trope but for Expies. |
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Happened to Astro Boy of all people in a one-shot gag manga Osamu Tezuka did as a nostalgia piece for Bungei Shunju, a popular men's magazine of the day. After Astro's apparent death in the final episode of the first TV series, the ministry of science was ordered to create a replacement, but since they tried to make him more humanlike than the original, he turned out to be a selfish, greedy, shiftless sex maniac. | |
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In the Batman manga, the Hangman deliberately tries to do this to Batman, but Jumps Off The Slippery Slope right at the beginning by persuading a mentally-disabled man to commit a robbery and then killing him, to establish his vigilante credentials. | |
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Angel also did this with Spike, to comedic effect. Where Angel would pound rapists into the pavement and receive a smooch as reward (to Spike's vocal disgust), "Blondie Bear" just chides the girls for stupidly walking home at night and alone. | |
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Umineko: When They Cry: Villainous example. Beatrice gave her title to Eva's hidden personality. When Eva-Beatrice was acting like a monster all-time, Beato get a few Pet the Dog moments, and got to make a Heroic Sacrifice, after realizing her mistakes. Then it's revealed it was all a clever Batman Gambit she put in order to make Battler admit she's a witch. EP 5 replaces Battler himself for Furudo Erika. It's played with irony considering the second is more or less an aspect of the Big Bad and Battler is not incapacitated and actively fighting against the change. |
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Plutia in Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory is considered a Suspiciously Similar Substitute for Compa from earlier games, as both are The Ditz and Combat Medic. Unlike Compa, however, Plutia is less heroic and more like a Token Evil Teammate, scaremonger and Villain Protagonist, especially as Iris Heart; she pretty much spends most of her time scaring friend and foe alike. Much like Ash Crimson above, the reception was mixed, even in the West where she's generally better received. | |
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Elementary: In the third season, Watson is replaced as Sherlock's apprentice by Kitty Winter, a grim, snarky young punkish woman who is deeply traumatized by having been raped and tortured in the past, and has a distinctly violent and ruthless streak, and ends up fleeing New York City after torturing and disfiguring the guy who abused her. | |
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When Mazinger Z ended and Great Mazinger started, Hot-Blooded, happy go lucky, self-styled ally of justice Kouji Kabuto lost his main character spot to the ever frowning, warrior-first-hero-second (but still Hot-Blooded, we are talking giant robots here) Tetsuya Tsurugi. Needless to say there was a lot more angst this time around. | |
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019): Emma and Mark Russell are substitutes for the late Joe Brody from Godzilla (2014); having lost family (their son) as a casualty of the Kaiju destroying a city years ago, and having never quite moved past it while continuing to focus more on their own grief than on what really mattered to them, just like Joe. From the film's start, Mark and Emma embody different aspects that Joe had combined: Emma is a driven workaholic who has become a scientific genius and pioneering expert in using bio-acoustics to better understand the Titans, while Mark has become an emotional recluse, has lost his glamorous former-job amidst the emotional fallout, and has estranged himself from the rest of his family. However, both of them are, in their own ways, a lot more dickish and moody than Joe ever was: Mark is a hot-headed jerk who is holding a one-sided enmity against Godzilla for his involvement in Mark's loss, and he's prone to lashing out with anger and self-righteousness at the people whom are doing nothing but try to help him, plus he can't even say that he spent all those years he was isolating himself and neglecting his family doing something semi-productive with his grief like Joe did; whilst Emma, instead of merely using her wits to seek answers on why she suffered while being unintentionally inattentive to her family like Joe; instead uses her wits to engineer the likely deaths of millions to billions in an "ends justify the means" effort to save the world, and she's emotionally manipulated her daughter into being her accomplice without a thought whilst literally leaving her daughter's father for dead. | |
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The introduction of K' in The King of Fighters '99, blatant attempt at Darker and Edgier, had a very mixed reception. Unlike most examples however, he received enough Character Development to save him from the heap, and is now a fan favourite. Then SNK went even further down the line with Villain Protagonist Ash Crimson in the next arc. The reception was even more mixed until again, like K', he got enough Character Development to be redeemed in the eyes of the fandom. The arc after that bucked the trend, as Shun'ei is a fairly decently behaved guy - although he still ended up a Base-Breaking Character. | |
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MonsterVerse: Kong: Skull Island: 1970s Monarch operatives Bill Randa and Dr. Houston Brooks are a precursor counterpart to 2010s Monarch operatives Dr. IshirÅ� Serizawa and Vivienne Graham in Godzilla (2014), being a tight-knit pair of an older mentor operative and a younger protégé scientist who work together to understand, investigate, and if needs be to try and combat the Kaiju in the world. However, Randa and Brooks' morals are a significantly darker shade of gray than Serizawa and Graham's were: the worst that the latter two ever deliberately did was to cover up the existence of monsters and the true cause of the Janjira disaster until the masquerade was doomed, and to try and preserve Kaiju specimens for as long as possible so long as they weren't posing an immediate threat to human life; whereas Randa and Brooks endanger dozens of non-Monarch people (from Landsat personnel whom are effectively untrained civilians to Vietnam War vets whom were just about to go home to their families), by tricking them into the expedition for their own ends without telling them anything about what might be living on Skull Island. Serizawa and Graham were idealists, almost to a fault, whom were awed by Godzilla, but they still wouldn't put preserving the male MUTO ahead of protecting human life — Randa on the other hand initially sees all the kaiju including Kong as conscienceless monsters that will destroy civilization if left alone, and he wants to expose their existence to the U.S. government in the hopes they will authorize an extermination campaign against the creatures for the sake of all humanity; while Brooks, to a lesser extent, doesn't think twice about brutally and callously carpet-bombing an uncharted island's herds of benign deer wildlife in order to get his seismology readings on the Hollow Earth. Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019): Emma and Mark Russell are substitutes for the late Joe Brody from Godzilla (2014); having lost family (their son) as a casualty of the Kaiju destroying a city years ago, and having never quite moved past it while continuing to focus more on their own grief than on what really mattered to them, just like Joe. From the film's start, Mark and Emma embody different aspects that Joe had combined: Emma is a driven workaholic who has become a scientific genius and pioneering expert in using bio-acoustics to better understand the Titans, while Mark has become an emotional recluse, has lost his glamorous former-job amidst the emotional fallout, and has estranged himself from the rest of his family. However, both of them are, in their own ways, a lot more dickish and moody than Joe ever was: Mark is a hot-headed jerk who is holding a one-sided enmity against Godzilla for his involvement in Mark's loss, and he's prone to lashing out with anger and self-righteousness at the people whom are doing nothing but try to help him, plus he can't even say that he spent all those years he was isolating himself and neglecting his family doing something semi-productive with his grief like Joe did; whilst Emma, instead of merely using her wits to seek answers on why she suffered while being unintentionally inattentive to her family like Joe; instead uses her wits to engineer the likely deaths of millions to billions in an "ends justify the means" effort to save the world, and she's emotionally manipulated her daughter into being her accomplice without a thought whilst literally leaving her daughter's father for dead. |
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The Gundam franchise has of course run the gamut of protagonists over its nearly 40-year history, but probably the biggest example of this is Mikazuki Augus, protagonist of Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans. The heroes of the last few Gundam series before him (particularly Kira Yamato, Setsuna F. Seiei and Kio Asuno) were All Loving Heroes and Messianic Archetypes who deliberately avoided killing even enemy combatants. In contrast, Mika is a Combat Pragmatist Child Soldier who doesn't spare his opponents a second thought; if you attack him or his "family", he's going to kill you, and God help you if you actually hurt someone he cares about. He also contrasts with most other Gundam protagonists by not being a Warrior Therapist, and even shutting down opponents who try the same by telling them "You Talk Too Much!", or just straight up killing them mid-sentence. His character is actually quite divisive among the fandom, with some detractors even claiming that his cold-blooded, merciless nature makes him a straight-up Villain Protagonist. | |
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Since JoJo's Bizarre Adventure changes protagonists every part, this was bound to happen. Part 2: The polite and academic Jonathan Joestar is replaced with the streetwise and pragmatic Joseph Joestar. Part 3: The goofy and cheerful Joseph Joestar is replaced with the emotionally-distant and serious Jotaro Kujo. Part 4: Basically the reverse happens: the emotionally-distant and serious Jotaro Kujo is replaced with the goofy and cheerful Josuke Higashikata. Part 5: The kind-hearted Josuke Higashikata is replaced with the ruthless Giorno Giovanna. |
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Sonic the Hedgehog While he never outright replaces the eponymous protagonist, Shadow the Hedgehog plays this completely straight. Introduced as an even darker rival for Sonic, Shadow served as the Knight of Cerebus for the entire franchise with his surprisingly dark backstory for a series that was mostly kid-friendly up to that point. He would then go on to become the Deuteragonist and have a major role in almost every game he appeared in along with Sonic, culminating in starring in his own self-titled game. Reception to Shadow has been...mixed to say the least. E-123 Omega serves as a replacement for E-102 Gamma. Both were robots formerly in the service of Eggman. But while Gamma was an Anti-Villain who switched sides out of care for others and in general grew to be a kind-hearted soul, Omega on the other hand is a full front Anti-Hero who is easily one of the most violent characters in the series and it's quite clear that the prime reason he's even on the heroes side is the fact they oppose Eggman. |
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It has happened in Doctor Who four times so far. When the mild-mannered Fifth Doctor died and regenerated into the Sixth, who was frequently a Jerkass, controversially violent, and started his life by trying to kill his own companion in a bout of post-regenerative psychosis. (Not that Five didn't get up to some violent acts himself, but he seemed much more conflicted about it.) The Eighth Doctor sat on the sidelines during the Time War, a major interstellar conflict set in-between the classic series and the revamp. Upon learning that a seemingly fatal incident he was involved in actually was fatal, meaning that he was already dead, he chose to drink an elixir that was specifically formulated to give Time Lords more-than-usual conscious control over the nature of their next self. This allowed him to become the "War Doctor", who was specifically crafted by his former self to be a person who would do anything necessary to end the war. What the War Doctor eventually did led to his subsequent selves refusing to even consider him deserving of being called "the Doctor", to the point that it's strongly implied that he is the one thing in the universe that Eleven is most frightened of. They did it again when the Eleventh Doctor regenerates into the far more abrasive and openly ruthless Twelve, with his main character arc for his first season revolving around whether he still counts as a "good man", which he himself doubts. And again, revealed gradually with Thirteen, as while Twelve developed into a much softer version of himself, he also had a buttload of trauma that unlike the other Doctors he had no time to process, plus wanted to die for real, so Thirteen represses everything, shuts herself off and her simmering rage comes out in a sadistic Grin of Audacity at the villains in season 11, and outright yelling at her companions in season 12. To a lesser extent, there was also the transition from Three (a well-dressed, gentlemanly iteration who was something of a Jerk with a Heart of Gold but was generally heroic) to Four (a manipulative, egotistical, vaguely loopy Manchild with a much more casual attitude towards death, who dressed like a Rummage Sale Reject to conceal a mind like a steel trap, albeit one with something of a wonky spring). Among companions, Intrepid Reporter Sarah Jane Smith was replaced by Leela, a Future Primitive who was very willing to kill (an impulse Four did little to rein in). Later, chirpy health nut Mel was replaced by a proud juvenile delinquent and Demolitions Expert Ace. |
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The Legend of Dragoon has Shana get benched and lose her power as a Dragoon. Her successor is Miranda, a Warrior Princess with a penchant for punching people. | |
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At the beginning of season five of Boardwalk Empire, Nucky Thomson has replaced his bodyguard Eddie Kessler, who committed suicide when being blackmailed by the FBI. Kessler was affable, decent, but determined and capable in a fight — by no means a hero, but one of the nicest characters in the setting, and fast becoming a Morality Pet for Nucky. The replacement is silent, menacing, and viciously brutal in a fight — even slicing the ear off a dead attacker and keeping it in his suit pocket. The implication is that Nucky hates that he got personally attached to Kessler only to lose him, and has hired a bloodthirsty stoic he won't mistake for a friend. | |
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In the final episode of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, John Walker becomes U.S. Agent, a darker (literally) and more brutal version of Captain America under Contessa Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: When one Slayer dies another girl is called forward to take her place. Well Buffy did die and despite being revived is replaced by Kendra, a Knight Templar whose sole focus is on hunting and killing vampires regardless of who they are. When she died she was replaced by Faith, very much an Anti-Hero before, during and after her Face–Heel Turn. Not a typical example, since Buffy was only dead for a few minutes at most; so she continued being the main character and maintained the role as the main slayer. With Faith as the "active" slayer, if she died, a new slayer would have taken her place, but Buffy's later (temporary) death did not have any effect. Angel also did this with Spike, to comedic effect. Where Angel would pound rapists into the pavement and receive a smooch as reward (to Spike's vocal disgust), "Blondie Bear" just chides the girls for stupidly walking home at night and alone. |
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Monarch: Legacy of Monsters: Monarch's deputy director Verdugo fills in for the MonsterVerse 2010s movies' IshirÅ� Serizawa and Vivienne Graham as the onscreen head of Monarch's operations during the series. Though well-intentioned, she's not nearly as idealistic or scrupulous as Serizawa and Graham are. A cold and acidic boss who's envious that she's only the deputy director, Verdugo disparages the heroes — her underling Tim especially — at nearly every turn, in contrast to Serizawa and Graham's kind and respectful demeanors towards others including their employees. Whereas Serizawa and Graham respect all life both human and monster, Verdugo is willing to dismiss the distress call and leave the heroes for dead when she thinks there are much more pressing concerns on Monarch's plate — this leads Tim to hit his Rage Breaking Point, publically chew Verdugo out, and resign from Monarch in protest, whereas Serizawa and Graham were both regarded highly and with fondness by their colleagues including Chen, Stanton, Coleman and Mark in Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019). | |
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Kong: Skull Island: 1970s Monarch operatives Bill Randa and Dr. Houston Brooks are a precursor counterpart to 2010s Monarch operatives Dr. IshirÅ� Serizawa and Vivienne Graham in Godzilla (2014), being a tight-knit pair of an older mentor operative and a younger protégé scientist who work together to understand, investigate, and if needs be to try and combat the Kaiju in the world. However, Randa and Brooks' morals are a significantly darker shade of gray than Serizawa and Graham's were: the worst that the latter two ever deliberately did was to cover up the existence of monsters and the true cause of the Janjira disaster until the masquerade was doomed, and to try and preserve Kaiju specimens for as long as possible so long as they weren't posing an immediate threat to human life; whereas Randa and Brooks endanger dozens of non-Monarch people (from Landsat personnel whom are effectively untrained civilians to Vietnam War vets whom were just about to go home to their families), by tricking them into the expedition for their own ends without telling them anything about what might be living on Skull Island. Serizawa and Graham were idealists, almost to a fault, whom were awed by Godzilla, but they still wouldn't put preserving the male MUTO ahead of protecting human life — Randa on the other hand initially sees all the kaiju including Kong as conscienceless monsters that will destroy civilization if left alone, and he wants to expose their existence to the U.S. government in the hopes they will authorize an extermination campaign against the creatures for the sake of all humanity; while Brooks, to a lesser extent, doesn't think twice about brutally and callously carpet-bombing an uncharted island's herds of benign deer wildlife in order to get his seismology readings on the Hollow Earth. | |
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Johnny Lawrence in Cobra Kai is like Miyagi in that he mentors young people... but he's also a Jerk with a Heart of Gold. | |
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