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Artist Disillusionment
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Creative jobs (acting, writing, making music or films, etc) are often seen by their fans as some kind of utopian ideal; you're creating art, using your imagination, and are apparently freed from the nine-to-five wage slave grind. Writers, actors, voice actors, and artists seem to have an edge over the rest of us; they're doing something they enjoy, something really creative, something that makes people happy. How could you not enjoy a job like that? Oh, it's possible. Fact is, creative jobs remain just that: jobs. And while they can be fun and interesting, like any job they can also be draining; factor in deadlines, editing, Executive Meddling, rejection letters, failed auditions, tedious PR drives and, of course, the dreaded Fan Dumb, and it's apparent that there are things that can make what may have been a dream job seem more like a nightmare. Whilst many artists cope admirably with all of this, others can suffer and become quite disillusioned. Sometimes this can result in an artist disillusionment farewell, where the character publicly ends his career - often with a heavy dose of Take That, Audience!. Sometimes, however, it's only temporary. The artist might simply be having a bad day. Sometimes they might just be a bit shaken by their circumstances and surroundings; whilst some thrive in the limelight, others, particularly more behind-the-scenes figures such as writers and directors, may find being faced with crowds of fans and interviewers unsettling and nerve-wracking, which can make their mood sharper than it otherwise would be. In either case, meet them when they're in a better mood or in more comfortable circumstances, they're fine. True artist disillusionment is when the artist just isn't having any fun at all anymore and is making no secret of that fact. They've given up being a Slave to PR, and as such are rude and dismissive in public appearances and interviews, snap the head off fans who manage to fray their one remaining nerve, and generally come across as a grouchy, impatient jackass. Their work may even begin to suffer. They just don't care anymore. And this lack of caring tends to express itself through insults toward their audience and fans. Overfamiliarity can play a part; some artists have been doing their job for decades, which is easily long enough for boredom to kick in. They might be sick of all the executive meddling they have to face or have achieved Protection from Editors to such a degree that anyone daring to raise a word of criticism is going to rub them up the wrong way. And sometimes the artist is just naturally a bit grouchy, intolerant and impatient, or is a Small Name, Big Ego type. All of which is going to make an unpleasant experience for the poor sap who happens to get on the wrong side of their temper. It's not all one way, however; unfortunately, the artist's fans can play a not-insignificant role in their idol's disillusionment. There's a reason some of them are called Fan Dumb, after all. Too many obnoxious or arrogant fans can turn the artist off their fanbase entirely, fairly or not. Where the artist sees their creativity as just a job, the fan may see it as a holy way of life, which can create tension if the artist isn't treating the property as seriously as the fan would like. The fan may believe that their devotion to the product means that they have part or even full ownership over it, and if they have no hesitation in bluntly expressing their views about it to the artist, this is going to grate even if the artist doesn't have Protection from Editors; the artist is the one who has to make the thing, after all. A Broken or Unpleasable Fanbase can also have this effect, since no matter what the artist does they're still going to have to listen to someone whine about it. In either case, Artist Disillusionment and Fan Disillusionment may have a circular relationship; the fan might suffer disillusionment after their idol was cruel or dismissive towards them, but the artist might have only been that way because they'd been disillusioned from having to deal with the many obnoxious examples of fan dumb before them and had run out of patience. As a coping strategy, some artists adopt Alter-Ego Acting to counter possible artist disillusionment. Others simply don't bother with public appearances and disappear from public scrutiny. May lead to Creator Breakdown or Creator Backlash. It may also result from the artist discovering that Celebrity Is Overrated. When artists take away something from their fans, often in response to fan dumb, that is Why Fandom Can't Have Nice Things. If the artist expresses these sentiments in a public writing or speech, it's Dear Negative Reader. Note that Artist Disillusionment is against fans. Creator Backlash is against works. |
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Marville was the brainchild of then-Marvel Comics president/editor Bill Jemas, and became known as an infamous critical and commercial flop even before it finished its six-issue run (it had only got that far as by Jemas' own admission, his status as Marvel president gave him Protection from Editors). Jemas attached an open letter in the final issue explaining his disappointment not only in the comic's failure, but in the comic industry as a whole, claiming that only superhero comics sell well at Marvel (directly citing Marville's failure as proof that their audiences only want superhero action, nothing more), DC Comics avoids "publishing anything that actually says anything", Image Comics will leave you bankrupt, and independent publishers have no money or viewership. He was motivated to combat this by reinstating the then-defunct Epic Comics imprint as a means of hiring and promoting up-and-coming comic creators with new, non-superhero stories. Sadly, it folded again one year later, with much blame being put on Jemas' micromanaging and posing a rather confrontational attitude towards said potential talent — despite the point of the imprint, Epic Comics' application guide blatantly admits that Marvel had little confidence in stories not connected with their superhero universe and that they'd only be supported if Marvel as a whole had something to gain from it. | |
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Ian Flynn would vent his frustration with shippers after an incident where he was flooded with requests to confirm various ships in Sonic the Hedgehog (IDW), only to get backlash when trying to explain that he could only vaguely allude to character sexualities rather than confirm any pairings, due to Sega mandates preventing him from explicitly doing so. For example, he highlighted that confirming the Lesbian Pride flag colors where indeed behind popular shipping pair Whisper the Wolf and Tangle the Lemur in one comic panel is as far as he can officially say on the matter. The same thing happened even earlier in his Sonic career with Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics). | |
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An episode of Fillmore! deals with two mega-fans of a book series called Vampirita trying to win a fan contest to become characters in the latest installment. The latest book in the series is so bad that it drives one of the girls to sabotage all their efforts to keep them from being immortalized in a lousy book. The author is shown to be jaded and dismissive of her fans, only still involved with the series due to contractual obligation. Her fans call her out on this attitude, citing that she at least should respect them enough to provide them with a coherent, satisfying story. | |
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Occurs in Commentary! The Musical, halfway between parody and Self-Deprecation: Joss Whedon's song, Heart (Broken) is a meditation on postmodernism and fan interaction so depressing it makes everyone else flee the room. Also has a killer refrain. | |
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Gigi Digi (formerly Hiimdaisy) was not particularly pleased to find out that there was a Kickstarter launched for an unauthorized Fan Sequel of one of her works. She's also vented that she's been tired of her past comics for a long time and particularly annoyed by the memes that have spawned from them. | |
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Billy Mack from Love Actually is a former big-name rock star who's fallen on hard times, and he just has stopped giving a damn and completely snaps when his newest desperate attempt to climb back to the top is an album full of song covers with slightly altered lyrics to make them Christmas-themed. At every public appearance, he gleefully lambastes the album while still asking people to buy it, just so the number one Christmas album won't be a cookie-cutter boy band. It works. | |
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The Simpsons: In "The Otto Show", Bart imagines life as a rock star performing a hit song called "Me Fans are Stupid Pigs". The audience loves it. He also dealt with artist disillusionment in "Bart Gets Famous" when hired on to the Krusty the Clown show as a one-line wonder, complaining about the hollowness of his catchphrase. | |
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Appin Dungannon from Bimbos of the Death Sun. Though definitely an Asshole Victim, the novel does reflect on how Dungannon's anger comes from his inability to escape the series of pulpy, Conan the Barbarian-esque novels that made him famous and be recognized as a serious writer who put a lot of effort into some parts, such as the mythology. It also crosses over with Creator Backlash, as at one point he compares himself to Jacob Marley, forever chained to a series of cheesy fantasy novels. Of course, the guy is an egotistical Jerkass regardless of the motivation, but it keeps him from being 100% unsympathetic. Dungannon has quite a bit in common with Harlan Ellison, to the point where fans believed that author Sharyn McCrumb wrote him as a Take That!; seemingly in order to defuse these accusations, she included a part where someone suggests getting Ellison to write Dungannon's eulogy (and it's noted that the two men despised each other). Amusingly, in the forward for a later edition of the Bimbos, McCrumb noted that she always knew which authors were "on the outs" with the fandom because people would ask her "Was (this guy) the inspiration for Dungannon?". | |
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Andrea Caprotti, who worked as an animator in the Rooster Teeth shows Red vs. Blue, RWBY, and gen:LOCK, said so many Troubled Productions traumatized her to the point she abandoned that career and instead became a teacher in Japan. | |
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The band Dethklok from Metalocalypse qualify. While they love their music, they dislike working on new albums, hate their fans with a passion (as best seen in the song "Fansong" for the members of their fan club who showed up for fan appreciation day). They also dislike other people who work in the music industry with them (Nathan sighing at another "douchebag industry party" at the launch of their new album). | |
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Lewis Brindley, in response to constant badgering about Shadow of Israphel, has said that he's really tired of it and that he actually feels demotivated to do it. This, on top of a lot of the old creation team no longer being available and the Yogscast in general being busier, means that the show's hiatus is unlikely to end anytime soon. | |
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Mike Connor in The Philadelphia Story is a poet whose book netted him something in the range of $700, and so puts on a cynical front working as a tabloid reporter to pay the bills. Upper-class Tracy Lord, who he's spying on for material, reads his work and offers to sponsor his artistic endeavours only to have him shoot it down as old-fashioned and patronising of her to think she can just make him her "kept artist". | |
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When Michael Krahulik and Jerry Holkins were guests of honor at an event with Ellison, Ellison mocked Krahulik (Gabe) in front of the entire crowd merely for not having gone to college. Holkins (Tycho) summed it up like this: Mike got him back with this line. |
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The Agony and the Ecstasy: Michelangelo starts painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling the way Pope Julius said he wanted but Michelangelo quickly becomes disillusioned with how the work is turning out. He destroys what he completed and goes into hiding for a time, during which he comes up with a much better design◊ for the ceiling. | |
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It's been obvious on the The Order of the Stick forums that Rich Burlew has become thoroughly sick of people questioning whether something that happened is in the comic is within the rules of Dungeons & Dragons. It's a bit hard to blame him for this as 1) this has been happening for years; 2) it's always been made clear that the story has priority over the rules; 3) many of the times he's accused of breaking the rules the actual rule is heavily debated and how it works in the comic is a legitimate interpretation of the written rule; or 4) the accusation is just wrong. | |
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In a prologue to the final set of stories, Conan Doyle mentioned how adult men who came up to him and said that his Holmes stories were some of their favorite stories as children didn't get the response from him that they'd anticipated. On the other hand, he also noted that writing Holmes stories hadn't prevented him from flexing his literary muscle in other areas. Even if the general public only associated him with his Holmes stories, The Lost World (1912) and Professor Challenger would both develop their own followings, and his non-fiction historical writing won him great praise in high society and even led him to be knighted by King Edward VII. In fact, Conan Doyle very nearly turned down the knighthood, suspecting that it was for Sherlock Holmes and not for his recent book on the Boer War. | |
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Ben Harclerode left Whitechapel (Band) and music in general because he was tired of touring for a living, was burned out on heavy music, and had wanted to quit for some time, but had stuck around solely because Whitechapel paid his bills and gave him a comfortable standard of living. It wasn't until he got serious with his then-girlfriend (who owned a gym) that he could afford to leave the band, and he stated in no uncertain terms that he was at the point where he was so tired of being a professional musician that he was doing a disservice to both the fans and his bandmates by staying in the band. | |
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The Mysterious Mr. Enter admitted in a video post that he wants to take a break from reviewing animation. While he has no ire towards his fans, he's emotionally burnt-out over having the flaws of his older videos (including those that were made years ago and he had apologized over) constantly brought up even when he's trying to improve himself as a content creator; the situation went as far as losing a friend over the videos. | |
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The authors of Everywhere at the End of Funk, a Friday Night Funkin' mod meant to pay tribute to Everywhere at the End of Time and its representation of dementia, have expressed disdain towards the mod's sudden popularity due to the amount of resulting fanart romanticizing the portrayal of the dementia-stricken Boyfriend. The last straw that led to them stating this publicly was when art of the mod was caught hijacking Instagram hashtags meant for serious discussions of the illness in Real Life, prompting outrage from the rest of the greater community. | |
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In Bakuman。, Kazuya Hiramaru, an overworked businessman, picked up a copy of Weekly Shonen Jump on the way to work, decided he could draw manga for a living, and quit his job that day. He's now so overworked that he often does not sleep, drinks himself silly, and the only thing keeping him drawing is the fact that his editor knows a lot of pretty girls and promises to introduce him to them if he does well. | |
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Sword Art Online Abridged: Kayaba Akihiko references this after people start talking trash about SAO; of course, not that the players could do much more, given they were locked in because the boss' buggy death glitched the exit shutters. The guy writing the blurb on the back of the Alfheim Online box was exceedingly disillusioned with the game after several months working on it, and clearly wants to wash his hands of this "weeping anal fissure of a 'game'". |
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Bonus Stage creator Matt Wilson ended the cartoon one "season" earlier than he originally intended, citing at first his desire to make money from his animations, then changing his mind and saying that he just got sick of making video-game references and the cartoon's trademark self-deprecatory humor. After pitching some ideas for a new series of his, Wilson seems to have cut off connection with the internet. He is currently working on Pencilmation as a director. | |
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Sock.clip, the creator of the highly popular Vs Whitty mod, left after accidentally causing her fans to send hate messages towards the creator of another mod because one of its songs sounded very similar to her mod's song Ballistic. After clearing the air with the other mod maker, she canceled the massive-scale Vs. Whitty mod update, instead releasing a smaller update with some changes to the music and a Secret Level, before permanently leaving the Friday Night Funkin' community. | |
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The film Galaxy Quest is all about this phenomenon and about the disillusionment and sense of lost opportunity that can result when an actor has to spend a large chunk of his/her life trapped by the popularity of a single role. The Shakespearean-trained Alexander Dane (Alan Rickman) seemed to suffer the most out of all the title show's cast members since he had given up a respectable stage career to play a Rubber Forehead Alien. Of course, the experience is revitalized for all of them, and the illusion restored by the end of the movie. | |
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Star Trek: Robert Beltran, the actor who played Commander Chakotay on Star Trek: Voyager. If he ever had a nice thing to say about the show (tripe), its creators (hacks), its fans (losers), or his co-stars (prima donnas), he's kept it under his hat. Midway through the show's run, Beltran started giving interviews to Trek fansites critiquing the rabid fanbase, the ridiculous Technobabble, and the contrived writing. There have been stories of fans actually breaking into tears at conventions after listening to his rants, and he's never shown any indication of mellowing out over the years (an online promo shot in 2008 for a play Beltran was starring in at a Los Angeles theatre had him passive-aggressively mocking his fans and telling them to support him by buying tickets). Reportedly, Beltran was angling to be let go from the show, but Paramount exacted revenge by keeping Chakotay alive for all seven seasons - when he demanded an enormous raise in a deliberate bid to get fired, they simply handed over the cash. The shooting of VOY was extremely taxing and frustrating for nearly everyone involved. Beltran was probably the least tactful of the participants, but by no means is he alone in those opinions. Probably for this reason, the DVD box sets include very little behind-the-scenes footage or interviews with the cast, such as Tim Russ (who doesn't even bother to hide his fatigue). Mostly, they are puff pieces featuring (some) of the writers and producers. For many years, the cast of Star Trek: The Original Series showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including William Shatner's notable anti-Trek rant on an episode of Saturday Night Live, and Leonard Nimoy's famous tell-all book I Am Not Spock (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book Trek Memories went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again, and Nimoy published a follow-up, I Am Spock, addressing this turnaround. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it. A notable aversion was James Doohan, who absolutely loved the convention circuit and went out of his way to accommodate fans. On numerous occasions he has told a story about a fan who wrote him a letter that was basically a suicide note. So Doohan called her and invited her to a convention in Indianapolis. He then pulled a Scheherazade and told her that he expected to see her at the next convention, and the next, and the next, and it apparently worked. It worked so well that he had struck up a correspondence with her and acted as her mentor. After a while, he stopped receiving letters from her and was concerned that she had fallen into depression and suicide, and he hadn't kept hold of her address to reach out to her. Eight years later, he received another letter from her apologizing for the silence — she had returned to college and had gotten her Master's degree in Electronic Engineering. A similar one was related by the author of Basic Instructions, who had a cousin with muscular dystrophy attending a fundraiser, and Doohan, despite being at the height of his popularity, took it upon himself to spend the entire evening pushing her wheelchair and keeping her company. Gene Roddenberry himself reportedly did not want to be involved with Star Trek: The Next Generation because of all the stress involved with the original series, most notably playing referee between The Shat and Nimoy, each vying to be the star. Be careful about mentioning Star Trek: The Next Generation to Patrick Stewart though. He's apparently heard enough about it that he now takes a rather dim view of fans gushing about his Picard. He's defended the show itself on several occasions though, so his disillusionment is purely with answering the same questions over and over. |
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In the Finder story "Dream Sequence", the protagonist Magri White is the creator and, via brain-computer connection, human main server, of a popular MMORPG. Due to this, his repressed anger at fans who do things like pestering him in his private life, or showing him the real-person slash fic they wrote about him, manifests in the MMORPG as a monster that starts attacking and mutilating players. | |
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pannenkoek2012 has left a series of comments on his UncommentatedPannen vids that explain why he hasn't uploaded anything on his main channel in 2 years. One of the reasons is that the commentated Watch for Rolling Rocks in 0.5 A Presses video led to a lot of new viewers coming in who would expect future videos to live up to the same quality standard of that. pannenkoek states that this is something that simply can't happen due to the fact that making commentated videos is tough and takes more time than an UncommentatedPannen vid, which are much simpler and (usually) shorter due to things like text commentary (where applicable) and less explaining, as videos on the latter channel often assume that you already have a grasp of the tricks that are being used. Another is that koek had gotten into a fight with his parents before the release of WFRR in 0.5 A Presses, which left him in a very bad mood. Since he wasn't using his free time for anything else, he invested it all into improving the WFRR video, and even when he could've gotten rid of the bad mood, he didn't because it was helping his productivity at the time. And yet another reason is that people are still repeating some of the memes spawned in the WFRR video, which he still hasn't mentally recovered from making. | |
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George Michael emerged from 1980s British Boy Band Wham! in 1986, releasing his debut solo album Faith a year later. Though critically acclaimed and one of the top albums in 1987-89, making Michael a megastar as his own artist, he still felt his image as a sex symbol (a holdover from his Wham! days, but slightly more geared to an adult image) belied the artistry and craft he put into Faith, and he longed to be taken as a serious, even topical artist. Moreover, he was discovering his homosexuality in private, which contradicted the macho, girl-crazy image he projected since the Wham! days, his parents and gay lover were both dying and he was having troubles with his label Sony. Soon, more serious-minded, less danceable and pop-friendly albums like Listen Without Prejudice, Vol. 1 and Older emerged. Michael also appeared less and less in his own music videos, one of which, "Freedom '90", symbolically showed an image of his Faith-era leather jacket, blue jeans, and archtop acoustic guitar burning in a closet. His arrest for "lewd conduct" (i.e. exposing himself to an undercover police officer) in a public toilet in Beverly Hills in 1998 led to his eventual self-outing. This, and his consistent arrests for drunk driving and/or drug possession stunted his career, and he ended up never reaching the heights of his Faith days again. | |
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RuPaul's Drag Race: Many former contestants have spoken against the show's rabid fanbase. For instance, any time a queen gets the "Bitch Edit" where she's made out to be the villain of the season, viewers will flood her social media with hatemail (including racial slurs if she's non-white) even if the other contestants come out and say she's actually a wonderful person 99% of the time and doesn't deserve such ire. Queens also criticize fans who only go to local shows when a "Ru Girl" is in town and don't bother to support their city's drag scene the rest of the time. | |
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Porter largely got his groove back after the release of Nurture, which continued his introspective, indietronica direction and served as the end of a creative drought he experienced from 2015 to 2017. Much of Nurture was inspired by him rediscovering how to make music for himself to express honest feelings instead of doing it to be productive or successful. This change in perspective was also aided by his work with Madeon on Shelter, nostalgic late-'90s/early 2000s dance music side project Virtual Self, and the start of his curated music festival Second Sky, all in 2017. During the 2020 version of Secret Sky, the virtual counterpart to Second Sky, he threw a bone to Spitfire-era fans by performing a full electro house set as his mascot character Potaro complete with some of his deep cut remixes and an unreleased song from that era. | |
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In Groundhog Day, the protagonist really despises his fanbase, but normally keeps it off-camera. As he's stuck in a "Groundhog Day" Loop, he sometimes starts to bitch publicly as a way of venting his frustration. Luckily for him, the time loop didn't end on any of those particular days. | |
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For many years, the cast of Star Trek: The Original Series showed signs of this, as they were angered over the constant pressure from fans and executives who only saw them as the characters they played on the show. This came to the forefront in the 1980s for several of them, including William Shatner's notable anti-Trek rant on an episode of Saturday Night Live, and Leonard Nimoy's famous tell-all book I Am Not Spock (where he categorically stated that there was much more to his life than a character he played for three seasons and a handful of movies). Notably, the 80's book Trek Memories went into detail about the crew's hatred of their fame and fanbase, but eventually, they all came around and acknowledged their characters again, and Nimoy published a follow-up, I Am Spock, addressing this turnaround. These days, of course, the TOS crew consider themselves custodians of Gene's legacy and are very territorial about it. | |
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The state of the Hat Films subreddit has gotten to the point that the Sirs have expressed their irritation; while admins are now working to tidy it up, the trio are a bit fed up with people posting walrus pics and going "this looks like Trott" note Trott's Minecraft skin is a walrus, ignoring their AMA and asking the same questions repeatedly and behaving in a slightly stalker-ish manner by reposting all their Tweets. They've also expressed their irritation at people genuinely insulting Trott, failing to realise that Trott's The Chew Toy because the group are Vitriolic Best Buds; they are, however, aware that people are just copying what they see and not genuinely trying to be mean, so this is a Downplayed Trope. Trott's girlfriend Katie has expressed her disgust with her real-life boyfriend being sexualised, particularly in the main Tumblr tags and during streams. Her efforts to appeal for calm only resulted in abuse hurled her way, causing her to publicly vow not to moderate streams again. She also expressed her disgust at detractor blog YogPetShame accusing her of being thin-skinned and giving totally unwarranted relationship advice, leading to a brutal verbal takedown. |
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Tracey Torme, the creator of Sliders, had to deal with a whole ton of Executive Meddling, and according to the fan site Earth Prime.com, he hated what the show turned into. Go to the pages about the double episode "Exodus", and read the part about what he thought of it, you'll see. | |
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My Little Pony Micro Series has an in-universe example with Jade Singer, who felt she couldn't top her novel "The Canter in the Rye". She's still writing, but she lacks the courage to continue, at least until Twilight's visit. | |
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Ben Singer, member of ScrewAttack and creator of DEATH BATTLE! has expressed dislike for certain members of the Death Battle fandom. The Death Battle crew has called out these people for not caring about the work they put into and only caring about who wins without context during "Mega Man vs. Astro Boy" and the fandom's annoyance over "Samus Aran vs. Boba Fett" when they complained over Fett's cold-resistance armor not equaling to cold-immunity. There's also the fact that these people seem to absolutely hate Rooster Teeth as there was heavy backlash towards "Yang Xiao Long vs. Tifa Lockhart" and the Red vs. Blue crossover with "The Meta vs. Agent Carolina". Ben called out the fandom with a heavy snarking message "thanking" them for their "support" for making the crossover. | |
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Phil Fish of FEZ fame quit the games industry a short way into development of "Fez II", as a result, years of rage and insults being hurled at him, with Marcus Beer's remarks being the final straw. It should be noted that certain developers and journalists who saw first-hand what he was put through by the gaming community tend to be amazed he held on as long as he did. Phil was very vocal about slinging vitriol and seemed to almost encourage it coming his way, seeming to feed off the trolls. At some point, though, it seemed to hit a tipping point, and he lost all interest in dealing with the drama. Unfortunately, one can't just turn the internet off like that, and it never stopped coming in, leading to overload and total disillusionment. | |
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Jeph Jacques generally likes his fans... But he would really appreciate it if they quit that whole "Shipping" business. Though he admits that it's more amusing than genuinely angering, and he has a bit of fun reacting to it — not to mention trolling the shippers. | |
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The reason why Walrusguy retired from pooping is that he feared that was what he was becoming best known for, rather than flash animation where his real passion was. | |
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The authors of Gone with the Blastwave have clearly stated that they're doing the comics for themselves and not the fans, they even went as far as to actively discourage the fan translations the comic was getting. Though, as of late, it seems that they are slowly changing their posture with all the attention they're getting. | |
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In the graphic novels about Johanna and Helena, Helena becomes a successful stand-up comedian, but really hates it. The worst part is that her inane babble is considered deep and true art and all that kind of bullshit. The emperor is indeed naked, but in this case, the emperor and the child are the same person. Eventually, she publicly denounces it all, pretty much claiming that the world must be a Crapsack World after all since people obviously actually like a show such as hers. | |
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It is noted that Kojima did a 180 and was very enthusiastic about Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. | |
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Ichiro Mihara, the designer of the Tetris: The Grand Master series, hates the Western TGM community for using emulators and clones rather than legitimate hardware, and is very vocal about it. This is despite the series being Japan-only and having no re-releases or consumer ports (partially due to The Tetris Company's iron-fisted view on games carrying the Tetris name), thereby making playing the series in a form that doesn't violate copyright nearly impossible without spending copious amounts of cash on hardware that is not as mass-produced as consumer games. This seems to have changed in 2015, with Mihara opening up a bilingual official TGM Twitter account and taking feedback for an upcoming TGM location test in the United States, as well as encouraging fans, Japanese and otherwise, to use the #tgm_series hashtag when discussing TGM on social media. | |
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The cast of the second season of War of the Worlds (1988) were subject to this. When the second season premiered, viewers were reportedly incensed that the entire framework of the series had changed (including the deaths of main characters and the changing of several plot-related elements) that they decided to make their displeasure known with hateful letters written to the cast and crew. Their biggest targets were actor Denis Forest and actress Catherine Disher (who played the leaders of the Morthrai on the show). Disher was so angered by the derogatory and negative letters she received (both during and after the show) that, to this day, she won't talk about it at fan conventions. | |
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Dokki.doodlez left the community after she and the team of the Mid-Fight Masses mod received harassment for the production value of the mod where the charting and engine had received harsh criticism. Due to the poor reception of the mod and the writing and the characters, the creator ultimately ceased further development and had the mod removed from GameBanana. | |
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Justin "Amnaeon" Bonitz Was a very talented Metal Vocalist and YouTube performer, his rise to fame was in part due to the song covers he would do on request. However, as of April 11th, 2015, he experienced a massive Creator Breakdown, in which he mocked and insulted his Fan Dumb and in fact all of his subscribers, due to the constant stream of cover requests overshadowing his other work. He then removed over 3 or 4 years' worth of content and left only the breakdown video and another one titled "I quit" and changed his channel banner to a collection of insults aimed at anyone viewing. As of October 2015, Justin has returned with a new channel, "Hungry Lights". It would seem he has apologized for his past behavior, with the Amnaeon channel. |
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American Mcgee of American McGee's Alice and Alice: Madness Returns fame tried for years to get the prequel game, Alice: Asylum, off the ground. In early 2023, license holder Electronic Arts passed on it, and he grew so disillusioned that he gave up on the franchise and quit game development altogether. | |
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The author of Re:Zero, Tappei Nagatsuki, is a unique case in that not only does he despise modern-day NEET otaku, but he also despises the light novel industry itself, particularly generic Isekai stories, in general, hence many of Re:Zero's jabs toward the audience being the result of this. Nagatsuki has even stated outright that the reason his characters suffer great pain that is a little too close to home for many of these Otaku is that he feels modern Isekai LN authors aren't gutsy enough to put their main characters through real hardships. | |
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Quite a lot of veteran M.U.G.E.N content creators/converters aren't too attached to the engine itself and its community either. | |
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The Cabin Pressure episode "Cremona" features an actress who is hounded everywhere she goes by adoring nerdy fans of her minor role in an Arthurian fantasy epic. She despises them, bitter at the fact that she gets no such recognition for her more serious work. It doesn't help that Arthur the steward is one such fan... | |
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In the Little Witch Academia (2017) series, the author of the Nightfall book series is revealed to be a Legacy Character, with the most recent one wishing to pass on the role due to being a target of internet trolls. Lotte (the one who she tries to pass the role on) convinces her instead that for all the people who insult and mock her, there are many more who love her writing and genuinely appreciate her, which leads to her continuing the role. | |
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A big plot element in Megatokyo is actor/fan relations. Among the main characters is former idol (and Broken Bird) Erika, who found that her idealistic dream of being a voice actress was destroyed by fan obsessiveness, the negative impact her job had on her personal life, and her own disillusionment - which resulted in nearly killing her best friend. Her experience at the height of her fame has only left her aloof and cynical (until Largo comes along...) After Kimiko gets a popular role, she runs into this as well, and ends up delivering a "The Reason You Suck" Speech to a horde of fanboys who were trying to take (additional!) upskirt shots of her. |
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Part of the reason why Ian J. quit RPG World. He hated fans who kept harping on him about the comic when it didn't please them of his decisions and, along with both studying animation, a breakup with his girlfriend and dissatisfaction with the story. Just up and quit the comic altogether..when it was in its final arc Thankfully it did get a proper conclusion but on another series. | |
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Porter Robinson first established his fame through the electronic dance music boom at the start of The New '10s, considered a pioneer and codifier of the "complextro" subgenre. However, following his debut Spitfire EP, he ended up quickly moving on from the scene because he became exhausted by the bombastic, party-driven culture, wanting to venture into a more introspective, indietronica-inspired direction, marked by his New Sound Album Worlds. He's since almost never performed or acknowledged his Spitfire-era music, only ever mentioning it in interviews to remind his audience just how tired he is of it. Porter largely got his groove back after the release of Nurture, which continued his introspective, indietronica direction and served as the end of a creative drought he experienced from 2015 to 2017. Much of Nurture was inspired by him rediscovering how to make music for himself to express honest feelings instead of doing it to be productive or successful. This change in perspective was also aided by his work with Madeon on Shelter, nostalgic late-'90s/early 2000s dance music side project Virtual Self, and the start of his curated music festival Second Sky, all in 2017. During the 2020 version of Secret Sky, the virtual counterpart to Second Sky, he threw a bone to Spitfire-era fans by performing a full electro house set as his mascot character Potaro complete with some of his deep cut remixes and an unreleased song from that era. |
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Mick Foley's (in)famous "Cane Dewey" promo, in which he called out ECW fans for being All Take and No Give, citing the titular sign at the start. | |
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Spider Jerusalem, of Transmetropolitan, has something of a hate/loathe/disgust/contempt/pity complex regarding his fans. They read his journalism (which is good enough to be art, by any means) and find his exploits entertaining, and occasionally they listen to him if he shouts loud enough. On the other hand, they don't care enough, they don't get the message, and generally let him down. The volume "The New Scum" ends with him chucking grenades off a roof because, despite his column, the public finally followed his advice and booted out the corrupt president "the Beast," but elected a president that Jerusalem found even more loathsome. | |
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Bob Budiansky, the first writer of The Transformers (Marvel) who did a lot to develop the franchise, doesn't actually dislike Transformers fans, but he is rather bemused by the fact that they obsess over something that to him was just another creative job. | |
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Robert Beltran, the actor who played Commander Chakotay on Star Trek: Voyager. If he ever had a nice thing to say about the show (tripe), its creators (hacks), its fans (losers), or his co-stars (prima donnas), he's kept it under his hat. Midway through the show's run, Beltran started giving interviews to Trek fansites critiquing the rabid fanbase, the ridiculous Technobabble, and the contrived writing. There have been stories of fans actually breaking into tears at conventions after listening to his rants, and he's never shown any indication of mellowing out over the years (an online promo shot in 2008 for a play Beltran was starring in at a Los Angeles theatre had him passive-aggressively mocking his fans and telling them to support him by buying tickets). Reportedly, Beltran was angling to be let go from the show, but Paramount exacted revenge by keeping Chakotay alive for all seven seasons - when he demanded an enormous raise in a deliberate bid to get fired, they simply handed over the cash. | |
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Various staff members of Voltron: Legendary Defender have expressed their disappointment with the behavior of the fandom in regards to Ship-to-Ship Combat, especially against the rabid Keith/Lance shippers. | |
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Hannah Rutherford has fairly openly bashed more vocal parts of the Yogscast fandom that reside mostly on Tumblr. This is partly due to some disturbing fanworks about her real-life relationship, which she quite understandably is not amused by. The other peeve of hers are various blogs that accuse her of being problematic for reasons that are not always valid, most notably with her playthrough of Outlast. | |
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Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan has openly criticized people that throw pizzas on the roof of the house which was used for filming Walter White's residence, pointing out that a retired couple have lived there for some forty-odd years and doesn't deserve to be rudely harassed. Though reportedly the couple themselves are pretty gracious about it, so long as you ask them first. | |
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YouTuber and Sidemen member KSI seemingly underwent this in 2017. He blacked out all of his profile pictures and banners across both YouTube and social media, took down some of his videos, and uploaded a series of tweets where he explained that he had become disillusioned with his status as a "celebrity" and the extra privileges he got as a result, even though everyone is created equal. He then "left" the Sidemen group he co-founded in August 2017, but came back the following month. | |
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The failure of The Jim Henson Hour, then the latest in a string of flops, combined with the stress of managing his own production companies, keeping an eagle eye on quality control and issues in his personal life (he had separated from his wife a few years prior), left Jim Henson seriously burned out in its aftermath. The result was him nearly selling the Muppets franchise to Disney so he could focus solely on creating and performing, which only didn't go through because he died during the negotiations. | |
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CaptainSparklez is mostly positive about his fandom, but had a fairly annoyed reaction towards "Stop Having Fun" Guys criticising him for not being able to memorise over one hundred Minecraft mods. He admitted that these complaints were really starting to get on his nerves, and very nearly cancelled the "Ultra-Modded Survival" series as a result. | |
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After a backlash with regards to his Garry's Mod content, Sips openly referred to the YouTube comments section as a "cesspool of hate". He was a bit kinder about his subreddit, on the other hand. | |
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In the American manga Dramacon, famous fictional artist Lida Zeff has shades of this. When talking to a hopeful with dreams of becoming a manga artist, Lida lists all the difficulties of being an artist: finances, inconsistent job flow, criticism, self-doubt, and the difficulties of the business end of things. Nonetheless, she still seems to find enjoyment in her job even with the disillusionment. | |
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Friday Night Funkin' has caused quite a few controversies within its' own fanbase, most prominently within the modding community: The authors of Everywhere at the End of Funk, a Friday Night Funkin' mod meant to pay tribute to Everywhere at the End of Time and its representation of dementia, have expressed disdain towards the mod's sudden popularity due to the amount of resulting fanart romanticizing the portrayal of the dementia-stricken Boyfriend. The last straw that led to them stating this publicly was when art of the mod was caught hijacking Instagram hashtags meant for serious discussions of the illness in Real Life, prompting outrage from the rest of the greater community. Sock.clip, the creator of the highly popular Vs Whitty mod, left after accidentally causing her fans to send hate messages towards the creator of another mod because one of its songs sounded very similar to her mod's song Ballistic. After clearing the air with the other mod maker, she canceled the massive-scale Vs. Whitty mod update, instead releasing a smaller update with some changes to the music and a Secret Level, before permanently leaving the Friday Night Funkin' community. Dokki.doodlez left the community after she and the team of the Mid-Fight Masses mod received harassment for the production value of the mod where the charting and engine had received harsh criticism. Due to the poor reception of the mod and the writing and the characters, the creator ultimately ceased further development and had the mod removed from GameBanana. |
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