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Association Fallacy
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"A is a B. A is also a C. Therefore, all Bs are Cs." Claiming a quality of one thing is also a quality of another thing because they have some other thing in common, e.g., "Water is a liquid. Water will put out most fires. Therefore, any liquid will put out most fires." As it turns out, liquid oxygen and (of course) gasoline each encourage rather than extinguish a fire. Compare Guilt by Association Gag, for situations where a character is assumed to be just like the other character or characters they happen to be with at the moment. Guilt by Association: Also called: Reductio ad Hitlerum, when the association is specifically made to Hitler.note And a missed opportunity to be called Reductio Ad-olfus. Reductio ad Nazium, when the association is made to the Nazis. Reductio ad Communum, when the association is made to Communists. Broad Brush Sweeping Generalization Russia Iran Disco Suck, when two things are supposedly related because the same person dislikes both. Also called Jonanism. Sins of Our Fathers and Family Honor, when the association is familial. Guilt By Association assumes that two separate things share a negative property because they share a different, unrelated property, usually a relation to some undesirable person or ideology. (See also Stop Being Stereotypical, Don't Shoot the Message.) |
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Wonder Woman (1987): The White Magician uses the fact that he fights criminals and villains like heroes do to set himself up as a hero, despite the fact that he "accidentally" kills everyone he fights when their tech (which he helps sell to them) "malfunctions" and in the DCU heroes emphatically don't kill; doing so means they are no longer in compliance with the law. He gets away with it for longer than he should because he's got a pet reporter painting him in a good light. | |
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Sting apparently turned heel early in 2010 when he attacked Hulk Hogan with his black baseball bat. Not long afterward, he attacked Rob Van Dam in a similar fashion. Sting was a Designated Villain until October of that year, when it became clear to everyone that all along Hogan had been plotting a conspiracy to take over TNA, in much the same way he had with WCW 14 years earlier; Van Dam, however, did not join Hogan's conspiracy. When Van Dam confronted Sting about the unfairness of this, Sting admitted he'd been wrong, but also defended himself by pointing out that Hogan and RVD had entered TNA at about the same time, and it was natural to assume (in Sting's mind, anyway) that they were working together. | |
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Dragon Age: Inquisition: Elven companion Sera dislikes when people assume she should be "elfy" just because she's biologically elven. However, Sera herself was made to feel inferior for not being "elfy" enough in the past by some "elfy" elves, so she's decided that all elfy elves must also be haughty bigots. Thus, Sera feels justified endlessly badmouthing elven culture to an Elven Player Character. After all, if you're not elfy then you shouldn't be offended, and if you are elfy then you must be a haughty bigot who deserves it. Problem? Thedas elves are Enslaved Elves, Sera has Internalized Racism, and Sera will do this even if a Female Elven Inquisitor is pursuing her in a Romance Sidequest. | |
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Harry Potter, in Prisoner of Azkaban, absolutely refuses to get a Nimbus 2001 simply because Draco Malfoy has one. | |
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In Metalocalypse, Nathan Explosion delivers one in order to convince the other members of the band to drink bleach. | |
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In Monty Python and the Holy Grail, they use this to prove a woman is a witch. In this instance they were completely right. |
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Romper Stomper: Leila is told by Jago that, due to being a Muslim, she is responsible herself for any Islamic terrorism in Australia as moderates give them "cover". | |
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One of the posters on Conservapedia apparently does not like either mainline Protestants or people who play video games, and was quick to note that James Holmes (the "Joker" killer in Aurora, Colorado) was both Presbyterian and a video game fanatic. The obvious inference is that there is something intrinsic in both Presbyterianism and video games that can cause people associated with them to become mass murderers. By that logic, one might as well say that, because most serial killers are men, all men must be serial killers. | |
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Star Wars: The Old Republic: One of the dueling Lawful Stupid Appeal to Tradition arguments that Darth Thanaton uses to justify his attempts to kill the Sith Inquisitor Player Character beginning at the end of chapter 1 is that their recently deceased master Darth Zash was corrupt, therefore her apprentice the Inquisitor must also be corrupt. The fact that the Inquisitor killed Darth Zash in self-defense appears to make no difference in his thinking. | |
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Yes, Minister: Sir Humphrey describes "Politician's Logic" thus: "Something must be done, this policy is something, therefore we must do it." | |
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Star Wars Resistance: Tam Ryvora believes that the Empire and its successor the First Order are good because her grandfather, who was a genuinely good person, worked in an Imperial factory. When her boss tries to point out that the Empire took advantage of the vulnerable, she blows it off. Unsurprisingly, this naïve viewpoint sets her up for corruption by the First Order's agents. | |
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An anti-abortion Chick Tract claims abortion is wrong because Hitler killed Jewish babies, and therefore doctors who carry out abortions are as bad as Hitler.note To put it more accurately, Hitler believed both in killing Jewish babies and in not killing Aryan babies, so his regime legalized, encouraged and sometimes forced abortions on Jews (among other "undesirables"), while banning them for "Aryans", who were rewarded for having many children. So, the pro-choice side will simply counter that one thing Hitler definitely wasn't in favor of was letting "Aryan" and Jewish women themselves decide whether to have abortions. | |
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In Metal Gear Solid, Otacon states matter-of-factly that liking dogs is irrefutable proof that a person is decent, deep down. Snake immediately points out that Hitler was a big fan of dogs. Interesting in that while it applies under this variant, the exchange is often mistaken for an example of the Argumentum Ad Hitlerium fallacy. But Snake isn't saying liking dogs is bad; he's just shooting down Otacon's fallacy by pointing out a bad person who liked dogs. | |
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Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords takes place shortly after the Jedi Civil War and subsequent First Jedi Purge, and the galactic population is pretty much sick of the Forever War between Jedi and Sith. The average citizen doesn't even bother to make distinctions between the two anymore to the point that "Jedi" is used as a catch-all term for Force users in generalnote which isn't actually that inaccurate, as both descend from the ancient Je'daii Order and therefore all Sith are Dark Jedi (but not all Dark Jedi are Sith). The Player Character can try to argue the point, but as your Boomerang Bigot companion Atton says; "The Jedi... the Sith... you don't get it, do you? To the galaxy, they're the same thing; just men and women with too much power, squabbling over religion, while the rest of us burn." | |
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Saturday Night Live's spoof of John McCain's political ads: | |
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Saving Christmas is full of this, trying to justify Christmas materialism, such as saying "the cross was wood = Christmas trees are Christian!"note Christmas trees were pagan symbolism incorporated from the Roman Saturnalia. | |
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Game of Thrones: This exchange from "What Is Dead May Never Die". It's not precisely Honor by Association, but it certainly isn't guilt, either: | |
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Harold Weir on Freaks and Geeks would end anecdotes about people who do things he disapproves of with "You know where X is now? He's dead." This is whether or not there was any causal link between what they did and their death. | |
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This fallacy is used on the three Erics in Sideways Stories from Wayside School. Eric Bacon, the skinniest person in the class, is called "Fatso" because the other two Erics are fat. Eric Fry, the best athlete in the class, is nicknamed "Butterfingers", presumed to be clumsy and weak because the other two Erics are (cemented by a Never Live It Down moment when he drops a ball). And Eric Ovens, one of the nicest people in the class, is called "Crabapple" and presumed to be mean because the other two Erics are mean. | |
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Scarlet Lady: In "Malediktator", when Chloé presents her half-sister Zoé to her classmates, the latter ponder if she's as bad as the former. Nino reminds them that Adrien was Chloé's friend when they met him and turned out to be cool. | |
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South Park: The argument here is that Terrance has done a thing associated with kind people, so he must be one. This is, of course, enough for the jury to acquit him on the spot (or as soon as farting allows). |
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Family Guy The episode "Prick Up Your Ears" is about Lois teaching a sex-ed class, only to be fired by the board for teaching safe sex rather than abstinence. She is replaced by a motivational speaker named Jerry Kirkwood who proceeds to use numerous fallacies to scare the students into not having sex ever. It becomes clear he is a religious fundamentalist who attempts to use ridiculous statements in lieu of any actual research or argument. In "New Kidney in Town", Peter adds kerosene to his homemade Red Bull in spite of Brian's objections, explaining it thusly: |
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Gold Through the Fire: Basically, the entire film just attempts to equate US secularist policy with the Soviet Union's open antireligious persecution, as a means of attacking them. It relies heavily on historical and legal errors doing so. | |
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