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When an element of canonicity is removed from the canon of its work by those who write it. There are numerous reasons why this can happen. It can be an uncomfortable case of Creator Backlash, Misaimed Fandom, Overshadowed by Controversy, Values Dissonance, or unfortunate implications for the writers. It can also happen when Fanon Discontinuity is so vehement that the writers end up agreeing and rewrite the canon. Sometimes it's just a moment or piece of writing viewed as stupid, unpopular, or simply not making sense within that universe. However, this can also happen if the work was made by a person or developer other than the original creator of the franchise, and, in rare cases, can also happen when they admit Creator's Apathy about canonicity. A retcon big enough, or dueling writers that are Armed with Canon can cause elements of a work, like characters, events, or episodes to be turfed out of the canon. Sometimes, the work was never canonical to begin with, but fans weren't sure and/or hoped it was, and we get a confirmation it wasn't. Sometimes the discontinuity is more subtle, such as a single line of dialogue or the specifics of an event. note And because this can happen even before the canon is established, as in a novelization or comic-book adaptation that coincides with a recently-released movie, it might not even be noticed at all. Besides those, everything else is in the canon. When that happens, they're treating it in Broad Strokes. Note that this trope has to do with the creators putting something out of continuity. Obviously, this is one of the meta-causes of Alternate Universe. See also Continuity Reboot, Alternate Continuity, Broad Strokes, and Disowned Adaptation. Works that are victims to Bury Your Art usually get this treatment if they're part of a series. The opposite of Ret-Canon and its descendant tropes. See Cutting Off the Branches for when all but one ending of a Multiple Endings game becomes canon discontinuity. Canon Marches On is when cheap and small spin-offs like tie-in books and comic adaptations are ignored when making the direct big-budget sequel. When fans do this, it is Fanon Discontinuity — including the ironic semi-inversion where the fans who actually like the discontinued story ignore the creator's pronouncements that it's not canonical anymore. If the writers lampshade a discontinuity, either canonical or just something the fans want to be discontinued, then that's Discontinuity Nod. See also the Orwellian Retcon, which may overlap with this. Not to be confused with Exiled from Continuity, when it's a character or a specific element or elements of a universe that are declared off-limits for use, be it in-universe or in another version of that universe, for legal reasons or otherwise (although whether they are simply made non-canonical or technically still exist, but can't be used depends on the situation). Compare Schrödinger's Canon, where a work's status as canonical has yet to be determined, and Ret-Canon, where something that was intended as non-canonical becomes canonical. Compare Negative Continuity. |
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Kane's (kayfabe) marriage to Lita had to be retconned due to the Matt Hardy/Lita/Edge debacle. They moved it back into continuity later, and the latter was retconned (mostly) due to Matt's release and subsequent blackballing from the company. | |
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The Rockers won the WWF Tag Team Championship from the Hart Foundation on the November 23, 1990 edition of The Main Event. However, due to a ring rope malfunction during the match in the second fall, the title change was stricken. (What happened was that Vince was planning on firing Jim Neidhart, but for whatever reason changed his mind in the time between the match taking place and it airing on TV. The top rope breaking gave them a convenient excuse to void the match.) The Rockers never won the titles again.note And according to WWE canon never won them period, though both guys would become tag champs with other people later on (Jannetty with 1-2-3 Kid, Michaels with Diesel and Steve Austin) For years this topped the list of lost matches until it was released in full on Michaels' Heartbreak and Triumph DVD. | |
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The author of Sonic X: Dark Chaos had started writing a prequel story at one point, but later decided to go and rewrite the original story. The changes made to Dark Chaos ended up contradicting the prequel so much that the prequel was discontinued altogether. | |
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Disney Animated Canon: It appears that The Little Mermaid animated series (designed as a prequel to the first movie) has been kicked out of continuity by The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning, as Ariel's Beginning is also a prequel to the first movie that would generally be consistent with the series but features a totally different version of Ariel and Flounder's first meeting than was presented in the series. Or it's just the one episode about their meeting that is touched — it has not been clarified. The Lion King 1 ½ seems to declare discontinuity on the Timon & Pumbaa TV series, since it featured a completely different version of Timon and Pumbaa's youth than featured in the movie. Also, the version of Timon's mom that appears in one episode looks very different from the version seen in the movie. The Disney Princess roster varies significantly, tending to eliminate princesses from less popular movies. This shows up in merchandise and tie-in books. Most notably, Princess Eilonwy and Kida are never included. One book specifically mentions that Ariel is the only princess from an underwater kingdom (Ariel actually has six other sisters from said kingdom, and the real Atlantis isn't even underwater). Sometimes, Leia is thrown in as well. Of course, there is no real continuity involved — it's just a marketing thing. Averted with the Villains franchise, however. On that note, according to the John Lasseter and Ed Catmull-run Disney Animation Studios, everything Pooh-related released after The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and before the 2011 Winnie the Pooh film is no longer canonical. That means no Welcome to Pooh Corner, no New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, no Pooh's Grand Adventure, no Book Of Pooh, no The Tigger Movie, no Piglet's Big Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie, and no My Friends Tigger and Pooh... so everything released during Pooh's Cash Cow Franchise days (which makes up a majority of the Pooh media) is no longer canonical. |
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Impjak Adventure: Several posts are considered non-canon due to their (sus)picious Eastern-European content and the author considering it to be Russian hackers. | |
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Bobo Brazil never beat Buddy Rogers for the NWA World Heavyweight Title, so says the NWA.note Brazil initially refused the title because Rogers claimed to have only lost due to a groin injury. Even though Bobo was happy to be champion after a doctor later clarified Buddy was not injured, the NWA decided to disregard Bobo's reign anyway. Carib wrestlers Jack Venenonote decided to drop the belt rather than endure the champion's touring schedule; his reign ended up completely ignored and Carlos Colónnote unification with another world title to proclaim a "champion of the universe" ignored never held the belt either! This would actually become a plot point in TNA, back when it hosted NWA title defenses, with Ron Killings correctly pointing out the NWA refused to acknowledge any black men as World Heavyweight Champion. | |
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The Kung Fu Panda franchise basically treats its television spin-offs as this, with the films and short films made by Dreamwork's film division as being the true primary canon, while the television series made by Dreamwork's TV division being set in an alternate timeline. Generally the events of Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness fit well with the overall canon of the films, but that changes with the episode "Enter the Dragon" which features Po master the Hero's Chi, but the events of Kung Fu Panda 3 ignores this with Po not knowing what Chi is and learns how to use it for first time in that film. In-between the releases of Kung Fu Panda 3 and Kung Fu Panda 4, there were two series released; While the three shows reference events depicted in each other even continuity with the three series is not perfect, as The Paws of Destiny features a reference to Ke-Pa the main antagonist of "Enter the Dragon" from Legends of Awesomeness which is the episode where Po masters Chi, even though The Paws of Destiny serves as a sequel to the third film which ignored said episode and all three shows depict the current Emperor of China (or Empress in the case of The Paws of Destiny) as being a different character and even species. Kung Fu Panda 4 being the biggest example as it appears to have rendered the shows Kung Fu Panda The Pawsof Destiny and Kung Fu Panda: The Dragon Knight officially non-canon. Its spin-off shows The Paws of Destiny and The Dragon Knight had Po changing his title to Dragon Master. This film completely ignores this change, and Po is instead still going by his original title of Dragon Warrior. Additionally, by the time of The Dragon Knight, it was shown that Po as the "Dragon Master" by that point was a national folk hero in China considering the food tour he was going on and how the Emperor of that series took away his title and made him a nationally disgraced pariah. This movie dials back that development and scales Po back down to being just a localized hero whose adventures and fame haven't traveled all that wide and a lot of people in Juniper City don't even know who he is or why he's so important. While travelling with Zhen to Juniper City, Po claims he has never had to work with a wanted criminal before, and is horrified when his association with her gets him his own wanted poster. This makes it abundantly clear that the events of The Dragon Knight, which also revolves around Po becoming a fugitive - including getting a wanted poster - and teaming up with other criminals, is not part of this continuity. At the end of The Dragon Knight which was the last KFP iteration before this movie, Mr. Ping ended up with the pirate queen Forouzan as an Official Couple, with Forouzan essentially becoming Po's stepmom. In this movie, all of that is overridden and Mr. Ping is single again, spending most of the movie on misadventures with Li Shan. In both The Paws Of Destiny and The Dragon Knight, Po and Ping have clearly taken residence in the Panda village as their new home with Ping even having a new restaurant there to continue his business, but this movie shows them still living in the Valley of Peace much like the previous movies and Legends of Awesomeness, with this time being the inverse in where its Li Shan who moved away from the village to live in the Valley of Peace. Even in the design department, both The Paws Of Destiny and The Dragon Knight feature the rabbits having totally different designs from those depicted in the movies and the original series, while this movie goes back to the rabbits original designs instead of their newer ones. In The Paws Of Destiny, Ping still saw Li as a rival for Po's affection and does not get along with him, yet in this film Ping see's Li as an equal and both help each to co-parent Po. |
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The first two installments of Chaos Fighters, Route of Land and Route of Sea are no longer canonical and set for rewrite. | |
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Season one of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (1978) was adapted into the first two novels. Elements of the second season were used in the second novel, but it ended with season one's cliffhanger. The third novel was an original story. When it was adapted for radio, it started where season 1 ended with Arthur and Ford stranded on a prehistoric Earth. The second season was explained as having taken place entirely in an artificial universe (which was mentioned in that season, but only in two episodes). | |
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8-Bit Theater: Thief's ninja costume was almost never red. In context, the outfit was red for the greater majority of one strip. Black Mage lampshaded the color change the following strip while he was descending into his standard state of being pissed off. | |
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After June Byers shot on Mildred Burke and won the National Wrestling Alliance World Women's Title in 1954, Burke refused to accept that she lost the belt since the match was called at one fall instead of the usual two out of three and she had merely conceded the first fall to get some breathing room and beat Byers in the next two. So she came up with her own belt in her own promotion, the WWWA, which broke away from the NWA and acted as if she had been holding it for the last 17 years. | |
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Both Booker T and Dustin Rhodes likewise never stepped foot in a TNA ring as far as they are concerned. Dustin in particular really does not people bringing this up, mainly because his substance abuse issues were completely out of control at that point (sound familiar?) and he'd rather not revisit that part of his life. | |
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The Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back run by gamepro011 at Summer Games Done Quick 2015 has become this less than 1 week after it was made due to its suicide and domestic abuse jokes. All official sources refer to the subsequent Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped run by Kollin7 and Wheelio as Part 10. | |
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Incredibles 2 completely ignores and even outright contradicts the original film's sequel video game Rise of the Underminer and the comic book series that followed it. | |
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In-between the releases of Kung Fu Panda 3 and Kung Fu Panda 4, there were two series released; | |
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Kung Fu Panda 4 being the biggest example as it appears to have rendered the shows Kung Fu Panda The Pawsof Destiny and Kung Fu Panda: The Dragon Knight officially non-canon. Its spin-off shows The Paws of Destiny and The Dragon Knight had Po changing his title to Dragon Master. This film completely ignores this change, and Po is instead still going by his original title of Dragon Warrior. Additionally, by the time of The Dragon Knight, it was shown that Po as the "Dragon Master" by that point was a national folk hero in China considering the food tour he was going on and how the Emperor of that series took away his title and made him a nationally disgraced pariah. This movie dials back that development and scales Po back down to being just a localized hero whose adventures and fame haven't traveled all that wide and a lot of people in Juniper City don't even know who he is or why he's so important. While travelling with Zhen to Juniper City, Po claims he has never had to work with a wanted criminal before, and is horrified when his association with her gets him his own wanted poster. This makes it abundantly clear that the events of The Dragon Knight, which also revolves around Po becoming a fugitive - including getting a wanted poster - and teaming up with other criminals, is not part of this continuity. At the end of The Dragon Knight which was the last KFP iteration before this movie, Mr. Ping ended up with the pirate queen Forouzan as an Official Couple, with Forouzan essentially becoming Po's stepmom. In this movie, all of that is overridden and Mr. Ping is single again, spending most of the movie on misadventures with Li Shan. In both The Paws Of Destiny and The Dragon Knight, Po and Ping have clearly taken residence in the Panda village as their new home with Ping even having a new restaurant there to continue his business, but this movie shows them still living in the Valley of Peace much like the previous movies and Legends of Awesomeness, with this time being the inverse in where its Li Shan who moved away from the village to live in the Valley of Peace. Even in the design department, both The Paws Of Destiny and The Dragon Knight feature the rabbits having totally different designs from those depicted in the movies and the original series, while this movie goes back to the rabbits original designs instead of their newer ones. In The Paws Of Destiny, Ping still saw Li as a rival for Po's affection and does not get along with him, yet in this film Ping see's Li as an equal and both help each to co-parent Po. |
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In an early episode of The Order of the Stick, Roy's ghostly father mentions that Xykon killed his master Fyron and his master's son. When these events are depicted in Start of Darkness, no mention of the son is made. | |
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A weird example is raocow, who in many of his old videos would always say "That was a demo" whenever he made a mistake and immediately fix it using rewinds or savestates. He has since stopped using savestates as much, to the point that he sometimes subverts it by saying "That totally happened" when he screws up. | |
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After ECW betrayed the National Wrestling Alliance, the NWA stripped Shane Douglas of their World Heavyweight Championship belt and leaned on SMW, who put the belt on Chris Candido. After the NWA got back on its feet though, it disregarded Candido's reign in favor of Dan "The Beast" Severn. | |
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If there was anything involving the WSU name prior to 2006, it was ignored at that time. Then in 2007 the previous year was ignored when it became an all women company. | |
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As far as WWE is concerned, for the longest time, Impact did not exist. This can get silly at times: for example, when Kurt Angle returned to the company and Sting made his debut, WWE insisted that both men were making comebacks after years-long hiatuses; and when AJ Styles was finally brought into the fold, they hyped up his achievements in New Japan Pro-Wrestling but never once mentioned the company he made his name in and was widely considered the face of. Relations between the promotions eventually improved after Impact's near-collapse in the mid-2010s stopped them being in direct competition, and by 2022, were cordial enough that WWE even let Impact's then-Knockouts Champion Mickie James look decently strong at the Royal Rumble that year. | |
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Kayfabe example: on the April 17, 2000 edition of Raw, Chris Jericho upset Triple H and won the WWF Championship, but Triple H - then running the show alongside his wife Stephanie McMahon - promised referee Earl Hebner that he would never touch him again while he was under contract if he reversed the decision. Hebner did just that, turning the WWF Championship back over to Trips and striking the match from the records; Trips rewarded Hebner by firing him and nailing the Pedigree. To this day, the official WWE records don't acknowledge Jericho's victory on that night. | |
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The Pokémon Squad: The first episode is despised by both Rayquaza Master and Sailor Pikachu (PlatinumMage never read it, but he has no plans to due to what RM has told him about it), and is explicitly stated in the 100th episode to have never happened. Season 1 as a whole has become this as of "Cigarette Ash", if this line from RM is any indication: |
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Monty: After the syndicate got Jim Meddick to drop the Robotman character from his strip, the entire existence of the strip prior to that got totally expunged from existence, as in no books for it remaining in print or online archives involving the character (1st strip in the GoComics archive dates back to April 2, 2001-Robotman the strip began back in 1985). | |
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The Nostalgia Critic: In a commercials episode, he spouted that men are too stupid to know they're being harassed and had an episode-long running joke about him. This caused a lot of controversy, plus didn't even make sense for Doug or Critic to say (as they've both complained about getting harassed), and when the Hyper Fangirl Story Arc came around, Critic was very aware of her, ignoring the above completely. With Hyper, while her arc is Continuity Porn, the fact that she had a Split Personality and was Hearing Voices originally is ignored by both the show and the DVD recap of her storyline, probably because she has enough issues already. |
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The Second Eaton arc in Shortpacked! never happened. You just imagined it. Now let's never speak about your crazy, drug-fueled hallucination again. | |
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Naturally, all victories Tommy Dreamer may have scored over Raven had to be ignored for their feud in ECW to work. Dreamer was finally able to get an acknowledged win over Raven when Raven went back to WCW. | |
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Could a wrestler's entire career be removed from the canon? If so, then that's what happened to Chris Benoit. He never wrestled, so all accomplishments are disregarded including his 2004 Royal Rumble win and title victory at WrestleMania XX, and no mention of him is made on the WWE's official website.note Though he is mentioned in a couple places where he kind of has to be, like title histories Read up on why here. Hulk Hogan got the same fate in 2015 after it was found out he made racist and homophobic comments, but was allowed to return to WWE programming in 2018. | |
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After a Buddy Rogers match with Killer Kowalski in Quebec ended due to Rogers breaking his ankle in the first fall, some states south of the border decided to promote Killer Kowalski as the new NWA World Champion, even though NWA didn't recognize Kowalski. Rogers would actually defeat Kowalski in New York, where Kowalski was recognized as champion, but he continued to claim to be champion even after this. | |
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A Loonatic's Tale "Job Hunting" never happened; what we see is a version which was severely neutered to make it acceptable for use in a school assignment. The artist redrew it as "Rehired", the canonical version of the story. Rick and Becky use it as a barometer for what does and doesn't constitute valid criticism; anyone who says they thought the original "Job Hunting" was good, isn't going to be any good to them if they need an editor. | |
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NWA Midwest disputed the result of the three-way dance MsChif and Daizee Haze lost to Mickie Knuckles at an IWA Mid-South event and declared MsChif was women's champion up until she and Diabolic Khaos partner Delirious lost a winner takes all match to Daizee Haze and Matt Sydal. After MsChif beat Josie to regain the belt, NWA Midwest renamed it the Zero1-Midwest Women's Title, declaring MsChif had been the only person to hold it up till that point. | |
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Lexi Lane first wrestled Jessicka Havok in Newark, Ohio during June 2006, won, and afterwards was hounded by Havok to the end of the year and into the next because of it. Despite this, Battle Angels hyped its CyberStorm 2007 i pay per view with a "first time ever" match between the two. | |
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The Helluva Boss pilot has been declared non-canon by Vivzie Pop and Spindlehorse, being excluded from the official series playlist on the Viv's channel. This is because of an extreme and very isolated case of Early-Installment Weirdness involving a radically different tone, different structure, and very different characterization for all five main characters. Plus, certain events in the pilot just don't make sense or are outright contradicted given the context of the rest of the series, especially the ending where the IMP gang opens a portal to hell live on National TV, when it's heavily emphasized that the secrecy of Hell's existence must be maintained, being a foundational plot point in three different episodes. | |
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The Disney Princess roster varies significantly, tending to eliminate princesses from less popular movies. This shows up in merchandise and tie-in books. Most notably, Princess Eilonwy and Kida are never included. One book specifically mentions that Ariel is the only princess from an underwater kingdom (Ariel actually has six other sisters from said kingdom, and the real Atlantis isn't even underwater). Sometimes, Leia is thrown in as well. Of course, there is no real continuity involved — it's just a marketing thing. Averted with the Villains franchise, however. | |
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On r/DanganRoleplay, participants play out their own Danganronpa Class Trials in which a mix of characters from the games participate to try to figure out who among them committed a murder. The Class Trials are typically treated as taking place in their own strange continuity where the events of the games happened and characters who should be dead are able to allude to their canonical deaths throughout the games. The sole exception is with the Final Chapter of Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony, which is treated as non-canon by the site's mods in order to allow the game's Big Bad Tsumugi Shirogane to be a regular participant without the baggage of having been Evil All Along. | |
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Generally the events of Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness fit well with the overall canon of the films, but that changes with the episode "Enter the Dragon" which features Po master the Hero's Chi, but the events of Kung Fu Panda 3 ignores this with Po not knowing what Chi is and learns how to use it for first time in that film. | |
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New Japan Pro-Wrestling really didn't like how WCW had Jushin Thunder Liger drop their junior heavyweight title to Juventud Guerrera with a tequila bottle and maintained that Liger held the belt his entire time in WCW. | |
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For WWE's burying of wrestlers like Bryan Danielson and Low Ki on commentary to make any sense, the fact that they did wrestle before joining the company on various independent circuits has to be acknowledged but their matches for national promotions like NOAH, New Japan and Triple A have to be completely be ignored, even though the crowds on the shows make it plainly obvious even most casual fans know better. To a lesser extent, Brock Lesnar's dismissal of CM Punk for having gained his reputation in high school gyms requires one to overlook that when Lesnar became a pro wrestler he initially wrestled in front of crowds too small to fill up any high school's gym. | |
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Kazushi Sakuraba's first fight in 1996 against Rene Rooze is not recognized by most mixed martial arts organizations because even though it was not a cooperated match, many feel the rules were too much like pro wrestling to count. | |
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The Lion King 1 ½ seems to declare discontinuity on the Timon & Pumbaa TV series, since it featured a completely different version of Timon and Pumbaa's youth than featured in the movie. Also, the version of Timon's mom that appears in one episode looks very different from the version seen in the movie. | |
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Reprints of the Rupert Bear serial Rupert and the Diamond Leaf completely excise a semi-controversial plot point that goes against the franchise's racial harmony themes. | |
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The members of the NWA refused to acknowledge The Fabulous Moolah's first reign as the World Women's Champion. In defiance of this, the World Wrestling Federation decided Moolah's first title reign had not ended, not for 28 years anyway. The reigns of Penny Banner, whom Moolah beat for the belt and Betty Boucher, who then beat Moolah, are ignored by both the NWA and WWF/E. During these 12 years, June Byers was the only champion on the NWA record and she doesn't exist in the WWF's. | |
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On that note, according to the John Lasseter and Ed Catmull-run Disney Animation Studios, everything Pooh-related released after The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and before the 2011 Winnie the Pooh film is no longer canonical. That means no Welcome to Pooh Corner, no New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, no Pooh's Grand Adventure, no Book Of Pooh, no The Tigger Movie, no Piglet's Big Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Movie, no Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie, and no My Friends Tigger and Pooh... so everything released during Pooh's Cash Cow Franchise days (which makes up a majority of the Pooh media) is no longer canonical. | |
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Dan, the creator of Confused Matthew, has invoked this on his videos released between 2011 and most of 2015, considering them mean spirited and him playing a character rather than giving his actual opinions. | |
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Keiji Sakoda and Samoa Joe were the first NWA Intercontinental Tag Team Champions, well that's what everyone except for Pro Wrestling ZERO1 says anyway. As far as Zero 1 is concerned, they never held the belts. | |
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The first episode of Pop Quiz Hotshot was widely derided, even by people working on it (Brad Jones calling it like Battlefield Earth, and even Doug talking about the crap Michaud made them do for it). The second episode starts again with Brad gone, Critic hosting and outright calling it the first episode. | |
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The NWA World Heavyweight Title runs of Killer Kowalski, Freddie Blassie and Verne Gagne were all ignored since they defeated "disputed" champion Édouard Carpentier, whom NWA President Sam Muchnick later declared had no legitimate claim to the title after Montreal promoter Eddie Quinn left the NWA. AAC recognized Kowalski as World Champion, World Wrestling Associates broke away from the NWA for seven years, during which time it recognized Blassie as its first World Champion and the Gagne case is part of what led to the formation of the American Wrestling Association. | |
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The writers for the 3rd An American Tail movie, The Treasure Of Manhattan Island, caused canon discontinuity for Fievel Goes West when they had Fievel say that he had a dream where the family moved out west. | |
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Sometimes occurs, oddly enough, in Survival of the Fittest. Sometimes a mod or handler declares a scene (mostly in pre-game or a character's backstory) as non-canonical, for whatever reason. Two examples of scenes declared non-canonical by a mod include a thread in v1 where a rejected character actually showed up on the island and randomly killed someone, and a scene in v4 pre-game where a character was prostituting herself out for drugs, with the other character having an implausible amount of drugs on him. | |
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The Unforgiven 2008 pay-per-view featured a match called "Scrambled Championship Match", created by Vince McMahon himself. In those time limit matches, the superstar became a champion if he pinned the current champion, but the win didn't become official until the time limit expired. The match was between Triple H (current champion), Jeff Hardy, The Brian Kendrick, MVP and Shelton Benjamin. At one point of that match, Brian Kendrick pinned Triple H and became WWE Champion, but due to the rules, he is not recognized as Champion. At the end Triple H won and remained Champion. But that brief championship reign of Brian Kendrick? Never happened. | |
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In 1955, Leo Nomellini defeated NWA World Heavyweight Champion Lou Thesz two falls to three via count out and disqualification. While the California Athletic Commission declared a title change had taken place and allowed Nomellini to call himself champion until his defeat at the hands of Thesz five months later, officially, the NWA ruled title belts don't change hands due to count out or disqualification, therefore stating Thesz had been champion the entire time. | |
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In Erfworld, the magic school of Deletionism (a Take That! to The Other Wiki) was replaced by "Retconjuration" in order to explain how a change was retroactively made to a character's special ability. Therefore, Deletionism has never existed. | |
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Do you remember the time Rey Mysterio Jr. was unmasked in WCW? WWE doesn't. This is probably for the best, though, as most feel he should have never been unmasked to begin with. Normally, Mexico's lucha libre commission wouldn't have allowed this and would have demanded that Rey stay unmasked, but considering the disrespectful manner of his unmasking and the fact that they hated what Eric Bischoff did, they allowed him to stay masked. The loophole used to justify this is to claim that because Rey no longer includes "Jr" in his ring name, he's actually now using his uncle's gimmick, despite being smaller and having a different wrestling style than his uncle. | |
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Since Calvin & Hobbes: The Series is noted to have been in the same verse as Swing123 and garfieldodie's other C&H fics, this places Calvin and Hobbes III: Double Trouble (by the former) and Trouble Island (by the latter) in this, as they'd resolved the long-running Cassandra Truth that's still present in The Series, though do keep in mind that they simply come after The Series. Retro Chill has this problem even more, as the status quo is massively shaken up by the end. This is finally fixed in the bonus chapter of the rewritten Can You Imagine That?. | |
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There's an in-universe example in Our Little Adventure with The Lady of Fate and Fortune. The creation of the Magicant caused so much turmoil and greed that the other gods decided to revoke the Fortune Lady's god status and banish her. | |
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Ric Flair has stated that his stint at TNA never happened. Notably, his page on WWE.com considers his retirement match against Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XXIV to be his final match; he had wrestled a few matches at TNA before he went back to WWE to join their ambassador program. That page also doesn't mention the "Last Match" he worked as part of an indy event in 2022. | |
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Mixed martial arts companies will mention that Allysin Kay is a professional wrestler, but collectively ignore the two 'fights' she had in LFC. Kay herself never mentions LFC when talking about her MMA fights in professional wrestling promos. LFC in turn ignores anything Kay has done anywhere else, including the fights she won and received injuries in at other MMA events. | |
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WWE decided to ignore the fact Shelton Benjamin had trained Brock Lesnar in college and served as his tag team partner in the Minnesota Stretching Crew, instead saying Benjamin had been Lesnar's roommate before doing away with any personal connection between them altogether. Though they eventually started acknowledging reality again on their website. | |
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In perhaps the only example of this happening in-universe, the characters of P*R*I*M*A*R*C*H*S delete 80 chapters of their own story in order to defeat the Plot Hole. | |
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In 1934, Martha Orr created a comic strip called Apple Mary, about an apple-seller named Mary Worth. After Orr's retirement in 1938, Allen Saunders and Dale Conner (formerly Orr's assistant) took over the strip, now subtitled Mary Worth's Family. At some point, the strip title became Mary Worth, and the family were gradually phased out, as was the apple-cart. It's now the official policy of King's Features that these are unrelated strips whose main characters happened to share a name, and the "current" Mary was never an apple-seller. | |
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It appears that The Little Mermaid animated series (designed as a prequel to the first movie) has been kicked out of continuity by The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning, as Ariel's Beginning is also a prequel to the first movie that would generally be consistent with the series but features a totally different version of Ariel and Flounder's first meeting than was presented in the series. Or it's just the one episode about their meeting that is touched — it has not been clarified. | |
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Subverted in The Church of Blow, where the protagonist of the second series is an actor trying to make a viral YouTube video. Then he starred in the Real Life viral video "Youtube is my Life", which the character is certain does not exist. | |
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Canon Discontinuity | |
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A small group of administrators at Wikipedia have "oversight" abilities, allowing them to restrict the contents of a past edit so that only other administrators, or other oversighters, can see what was removed (usually for libel or privacy reasons). In extreme cases, oversighters can remove the edit from the history, so that only they can tell it was even made in the first place. | |
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