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Character Roster Global Warming
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When a video game first in the series is released, it will often have a slow, powerful fighter (known here as a Mighty Glacier) or two. However, as the series increases and more characters are added, the number of these characters often stays the same, resulting in a gigantic roster with only one or two big heavy glacier guys. Hence, Global Warming. Compare The Smurfette Principle, which gives this treatment to female characters. |
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Tatsunoko vs. Capcom has a roster of over twenty characters (give or take a few between the original Japanese game and the international Ultimate All-Stars release), of which only four characters are slow-but-strong types: Alex, Hakusho Daimao (who was removed in Ultimate All-Stars), Gold Lightan, and PTX-40A (the latter two of which cannot be partnered with any character and must be played solo). | |
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Street Fighter Alpha has Birdie, T. Hawk and Zangief, and every other character with this playstyle is fast. Sodom and E. Honda aren't much faster, though. | |
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Marvel vs. Capcom in general suffers from this. X-Men: Children of the Atom only has Colossus and Sentinel in the ten character roster, although Juggernaut is another one relegated to a boss character. Marvel Super Heroes made Juggernaut playable and added Hulk, but removed Colossus and Sentinel, and none of the secret characters really fit into this. The next three games with mid-high teens rosters generally only having Zangief and either Juggernaut or Hulk. Captain America was briefly hit with this trope in Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter and a secret version of Zangief was available that was even more of a glacier than regular Zangief. Captain America was rebalanced back into a Jack of All Stats in Marvel vs. Capcom and a special version of War Machine, whose normal version is not this trope, was added. This means you got 3-4 Mighty Glacier characters a game. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 has 56 playable characters and only six are of the slow-and-strong type: Zangief, Anakaris, Colossus, Sentinel, Hulk, and Juggernaut. Tatsunoko vs. Capcom has a roster of over twenty characters (give or take a few between the original Japanese game and the international Ultimate All-Stars release), of which only four characters are slow-but-strong types: Alex, Hakusho Daimao (who was removed in Ultimate All-Stars), Gold Lightan, and PTX-40A (the latter two of which cannot be partnered with any character and must be played solo). Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is a teeny bit better about this with Haggar, Dormammu, Thor, and to some extent Spencer joining Hulk and Sentinel for six slow but strong characters out of 38 total. With the release of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and its 12 new characters, the only new additions who seem to fit this mold are Nemesis and Ghost Rider, making the final ratio 8:50. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite is probably the best with this trope yet in the Marvel series. Sentinel is the only Mighty Glacier from 3 that was removed, Thanos was rebalanced into this trope, and Sigma was added through downloadable content. That's 9 Mighty Glacier characters in a roster of 36. |
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Ultimate adds King K. Rool, Ridley, Incineroar, and Simon and Richter as new heavyweights, plus Piranha Plant, Banjo, plus Terry Bogard, Byleth, and Pyra as DLC, as well as bringing back Snake. But with all the veterans returning, this makes 27 out of 89 playable characters heavyweights, slightly lowering the ratio. | |
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Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite is probably the best with this trope yet in the Marvel series. Sentinel is the only Mighty Glacier from 3 that was removed, Thanos was rebalanced into this trope, and Sigma was added through downloadable content. That's 9 Mighty Glacier characters in a roster of 36. | |
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Guilty Gear XX: Around two dozen characters and exactly one big guy (Potemkin). Eventually averted in Accent Core + R, but only because the developers rebalanced former SNK Boss Justice into this so she would be tournament viable. Xrd would drop Justice but add newcomers Bedman (in -SIGN-) and Kum Haehuyn (in -REVELATOR-) as heavyweight fighters, and Strive drops both but adds newcomers Nagoriyuki and Goldlewis. | |
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The next three games with mid-high teens rosters generally only having Zangief and either Juggernaut or Hulk. Captain America was briefly hit with this trope in Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter and a secret version of Zangief was available that was even more of a glacier than regular Zangief. Captain America was rebalanced back into a Jack of All Stats in Marvel vs. Capcom and a special version of War Machine, whose normal version is not this trope, was added. This means you got 3-4 Mighty Glacier characters a game. | |
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BlazBlue has Iron Tager. Hakumen is also something of a Mighty Glacier, just the rare example of a character in that category being smaller than usual. The third game adds Azrael. The crossover game BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle brings back Tager, Hakumen (as DLC) and Azrael as well as adding in (the admittedly comparatively-small) Kanji Tatsumi (also as DLC) and Waldstein from Persona 4: Arena and Under Night In-Birth respectively for a total of five out of the proposed forty. |
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Mortal Kombat handles this very oddly: every Mighty Glacier in the series is a boss and is only playable in the full cast games — the only exceptions are Shao Kahn and Goro in the Gamecube version of Deception and Unchained. Mortal Kombat X and onward did start adding some new (non-boss) heavy fighters to the series, however. | |
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Overwatch ended up experiencing a lot of this with its Tank heroes (a role classification whose purpose is shielding damage, drawing aggro, up-close brawling, or some combination of the above), with only 3 of the 11 initial post-release heroes being Tanks. At some point, Blizzard realized that Tanks were very difficult to design for and properly balance since in a fast-paced Hero Shooter setting, their entire purpose is to slow things down, creating a lot of "noise" that either leaves them overly dominant, really unfun and boring to play compared to Damage or Support heroes, or worst of all: all of the abovenote Many of the game's more infamously stagnant meta states were when Tanks synergized in a way that actual straightforward Damage heroes were redundant, and the only practical option was pitting tanks against each other in a sloggy 6v6 sumo match of shields, healing, and close-up brawling. Blizzard has since increasingly compacted the role as being a bit of a niche requirement, and in Overwatch 2, it was announced they were limiting teams to just one Tank per team to loosen things upnote This itself was an extension of Blizzard's implementation of a hard "role lock" limiting the amount of an archetype per team to 2, seen as effectively the nuclear option following many failed attempts to reduce Tanks' synergistic dominance without making them completely unusable, allowing their Hero Shooter to be more of a shooter while still tweaking around Tanks to be fun and useful without getting totally out of hand. | |
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Averted initially, where the original Nintendo 64 game had two Mighty Glaciers (Donkey Kong and Link) and one Stone Wall (Samus) out of 12 characters, Melee added two more (Bowser and Ganondorf) in a 26-character roster, and Brawl added Wario (though he's more acrofatic), R.O.B., King Dedede, Charizard, Ike (even though he's a Lightning Bruiser in his first and second games), and Solid Snake, for a total of eleven characters out of 39 total. Quite impressive. | |
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Melted Glacier example: The Streets of Rage series has had only two slow guys, Adam, who was replaced with the even more stronger and slower Max, who was promptly replaced with Lightning Bruiser Dr. Zan and Lethal Joke Character Roo in the third game. In the Fan Remake, which includes the running and rolling mechanics from 3 (that Adam and Max didn't star in), they become loads more useful. Streets of Rage 4 reintroduces Adam and has Max back as DLC while adding the composite of Max and Zan, Floyd and the boss character Estel. |
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Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict: Out of a grand total of 32 characters, counting bots and DLC characters, only 7 of them are classified as Heavyweights: Arclite, Gorge, Raptor, Szalor (main roster), Jackhammer, Syzygy (DLC) and Corrosion (bot). | |
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Marvel Super Heroes made Juggernaut playable and added Hulk, but removed Colossus and Sentinel, and none of the secret characters really fit into this. | |
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The co-op mode of Starcraft II started out with two commanders for each of the three main factions, Terran, Protoss, and Zerg, with an additional Protoss commander being released shortly after the debut of the game mode and Legacy of the Void with it. This was followed up with the release of a Zerg commander and another Protoss commander, making the two Terran commanders this trope for some time until the release of a Terran commander to coincide with the release of Nova: Covert Ops. | |
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The King of Fighters started with Goro Daimon, Ralf Jones, Clark Still, and Chang Koehan. It took them about six years to add Maxima, a year to add Seth, three more to add Tizoc, and about another six to add Raiden. Although there have been other grapplers in the series, they have generally always been Fragile Speedsters. | |
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Street Fighter III started with just Alex, added Hugo and Urien in Second Impact and finally Q in Third Strike for four out of twenty characters, which isn't too horrible. | |
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Street Fighter V seldom brings in characters of this type. The game launched with Zangief and Birdie, Season 1 added Alex although Urien was brought back with his already-light case of this trope just about completely gone, Season 2 added Abigail, and Season 3 added Cody and G, and Season 4 added none. That's six out of 38 characters. | |
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Tekken usually features four heavy characters: Ganryu, Jack, King, and Kuma. Marduk is also in since 4. Now contrast this with the character roster of Tekken Tag Tournament 2 which numbers 59 in the console releases. With Armor King, Prototype Jack, and Panda, that's eight slots filling the Mighty Glacier role. | |
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Dead or Alive started out with 3 'big' characters who relied mainly on power and grapples: Bayman, Bass, and Leon. Bass's daughter Tina is a wrestler just like him, but is much faster while having less powerful throws. Dead or Alive 5 brought in Rachel from sister series Ninja Gaiden and gave her a limited yet devastating moveset focusing on powerful hits and throws. | |
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Granblue Fantasy: In 2016, Bakura is the last R character to be released (and he is still the portrait for the R Trial Character – a placeholder for any upcoming / character). The R character roster then remained stagnant for 2 years until Spinnah was released in 2018. Played Straight with Elmott's case: He has 3 versions of himself. The problem is, all three are of the Fire Element and all three are SR-rarity characters. In short, he never changed elements nor rarity. |
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The 3DS and Wii U versions add Robin, Villager, Palutena, and Rosalina but removed Snake. They also split the transforming characters, meaning Zelda is no longer stance based and now fits this trope. Additionally, both Dr. Mario and Lucas were rebalanced to more closely resemble the archetype. Ignoring the Miis because of their customizability, this allows for a total of 16 out of 52 characters. | |
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Marvel vs. Capcom 2 has 56 playable characters and only six are of the slow-and-strong type: Zangief, Anakaris, Colossus, Sentinel, Hulk, and Juggernaut. | |
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Marvel vs. Capcom 3 is a teeny bit better about this with Haggar, Dormammu, Thor, and to some extent Spencer joining Hulk and Sentinel for six slow but strong characters out of 38 total. With the release of Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and its 12 new characters, the only new additions who seem to fit this mold are Nemesis and Ghost Rider, making the final ratio 8:50. | |
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Battle Fantasia has only one glacier fighter in Donvalve. Played with in regards to Deathbringer since while he is just as large as Donvalve, he's also somewhat more nimble than him. | |
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The crossover game BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle brings back Tager, Hakumen (as DLC) and Azrael as well as adding in (the admittedly comparatively-small) Kanji Tatsumi (also as DLC) and Waldstein from Persona 4: Arena and Under Night In-Birth respectively for a total of five out of the proposed forty. | |
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Soulcalibur has four "big" characters (Astaroth, Nightmare, Siegfried, Rock) compared to more than twenty others, though in this case it's because there's only so many big weapons in the world. If one is generous, Ashlotte and Kamikirimusi (two of the five bonus characters in IV) count too, due to being palette swaps for Astaroth and Nightmare respectively, albiet considerably smaller. | |
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League of Legends has experienced a Downplayed, but noticeable case of this over the course of its 10+ year development. While tanky champions are still being made and the metagame periodically dips in favor of tank-heavy play, Riot Games' attitude towards balance and overall game design has increasingly shifted away from passive defense and more towards dealing and undoing damage. The primary focus has to do with how tanks inherently slow down games, and metas where they're the most viable tend to reward passive play and thus become far more of a drag, and further complications come in the form of "bruiser" champions; bulky, but mobile and painful initiators that often make the point of a more defensive-oriented tank redundant (at least for when they're functioning as intended). Riot determined that these two distinct forms of Mighty Glacier can't functionally coexist, and thus more and more, modern tanks lean more into dealing damage or effective crowd control as a means of expressing value. It's quite telling that since 2018, there's at least one damage-dealing "juggernaut" champion being developed for the game each year, but the defense-oriented "warden" champion category took a long gap between 2017 and 2022, and the Warden that did come out — K'Sante — is built on a Stance System where he's most effective as a lightning-fast duelist. | |
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WWE All Stars features only three "Big Man" class characters: André the Giant, Big Show, and Kane. DLC adds Mark Henry. If one is willing to be generous, one might count The Undertaker and DLC's Dusty Rhodes. | |
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Fire Emblem Warriors: The crossover Dynasty Warriors is the only Fire Emblem game not to have the Armored General class obtainable to the player and one of the only Dynasty Warriors games to not have a playable Mighty Glacier. | |
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Street Fighter IV's arcade release started with three out of seventeen (Zangief, E. Honda, and Balrog). The console version made that three out of 25. Super added T. Hawk and Hakan for five out of 35. Arcade Edition takes it to ridiculous levels with five out of 39. With the addition of Hugo in Ultra Street Fighter IV, the ratio increased very slightly, but 6 to 44 isn't much of an increase. | |
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Street Fighter: Street Fighter III started with just Alex, added Hugo and Urien in Second Impact and finally Q in Third Strike for four out of twenty characters, which isn't too horrible. Street Fighter IV's arcade release started with three out of seventeen (Zangief, E. Honda, and Balrog). The console version made that three out of 25. Super added T. Hawk and Hakan for five out of 35. Arcade Edition takes it to ridiculous levels with five out of 39. With the addition of Hugo in Ultra Street Fighter IV, the ratio increased very slightly, but 6 to 44 isn't much of an increase. Street Fighter Alpha has Birdie, T. Hawk and Zangief, and every other character with this playstyle is fast. Sodom and E. Honda aren't much faster, though. Street Fighter V seldom brings in characters of this type. The game launched with Zangief and Birdie, Season 1 added Alex although Urien was brought back with his already-light case of this trope just about completely gone, Season 2 added Abigail, and Season 3 added Cody and G, and Season 4 added none. That's six out of 38 characters. |
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X-Men: Children of the Atom only has Colossus and Sentinel in the ten character roster, although Juggernaut is another one relegated to a boss character. | |
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Super Smash Bros.: Averted initially, where the original Nintendo 64 game had two Mighty Glaciers (Donkey Kong and Link) and one Stone Wall (Samus) out of 12 characters, Melee added two more (Bowser and Ganondorf) in a 26-character roster, and Brawl added Wario (though he's more acrofatic), R.O.B., King Dedede, Charizard, Ike (even though he's a Lightning Bruiser in his first and second games), and Solid Snake, for a total of eleven characters out of 39 total. Quite impressive. The 3DS and Wii U versions add Robin, Villager, Palutena, and Rosalina but removed Snake. They also split the transforming characters, meaning Zelda is no longer stance based and now fits this trope. Additionally, both Dr. Mario and Lucas were rebalanced to more closely resemble the archetype. Ignoring the Miis because of their customizability, this allows for a total of 16 out of 52 characters. Ultimate adds King K. Rool, Ridley, Incineroar, and Simon and Richter as new heavyweights, plus Piranha Plant, Banjo, plus Terry Bogard, Byleth, and Pyra as DLC, as well as bringing back Snake. But with all the veterans returning, this makes 27 out of 89 playable characters heavyweights, slightly lowering the ratio. Super Smash Bros. tends to have characters that blur the line of Mighty Glacier such as Donkey Kong (who is very fast for his size) and Wario (who is heavy but very agile in the air), and many Mighty Glacier characters tend to become gradually faster in later entries. Bowser is a stand-out example, to the point of almost being a Lightning Bruiser since For Nintendo 3DS/Wii U, making the series arguably fall into the global warming trend as the Glaciers get sped up. |
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