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Damned By a Fool's Praise
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How can you tell a writer hates something when he doesn't simply say so? The resident dummy will appreciate it. This often comes at the end of an Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking incident. The character praising something doesn't have to be a moronic tasteless twit when this trope is used. Sometimes the person can be a Jerkass, creep, or some other type of unsavory character thereby tagging the object of praise with the mark of low quality, disreputability, or even Squick. See also Your Approval Fills Me with Shame when it's done between two characters, Hitler Ate Sugar when someone uses a hated character's interests to make a point, and Anti-Advice. Contrast with Dumbass Has a Point, where an idiot's remarks actually turn out to contribute meaningfully to the conversation at hand. May overlap with Fan Hater if the writer is also bashing the people who like the particular thing he hates, It's Popular, Now It Sucks! if the writer has a less-than-positive view about the intelligence and taste of most people, and/or Hype Backlash. Sometimes, in a situation where Only One Finds It Fun, the sole character liking it can be stupid, which is sometimes, but not always, an example of this trope. See also The War on Straw and Ad Hominem. Subtrope of Take That!, and related to the similarly named trope; Damned by Faint Praise. |
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Darths & Droids: When the character of Jar-Jar Binks is created, Jim states he likes the name. The following scene has him stating he also likes Jar-Jar's voice. | |
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The Far Side creator Gary Larson once claimed to have a friend who served as a "miner's canary bird" early alert for problematic comic strips. If said friend called and told Larson how great the latest strip was, he knew there'd be a disaster in waiting. | |
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Similar to South Park's Chinpokomon example, the parents of Clone High get their kids to stop smoking raisins by smoking them themselves, thereby rendering it uncool. | |
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The Trees of Pride has a variation. As part of his status as a Hollywood Atheist, Squire Vane absolutely and categorically refuses to accept any idea which has been presented to him in the form of a popular narrative. This pushes him into conflict with Dr. Brown, a much more rational atheist who had analyzed the popular legend linking the "peacock trees" on the Squire's land to the mysterious fevers that ravaged that region, and found that the evidence supported it. | |
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The Cinema Snob deems a good review of The Dove Foundation (who judges based on moral values more than actual quality) to be this — his creator even made sure to create a special cover for his movie Jesus, Bro! once they disapproved of the movie. | |
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The Simpsons: In the episode "HOMЯ", when Homer becomes smarter than average but hates it, he goes to a Back-Alley Doctor (i.e., Moe) to insert a crayon up his nose to re-dumbify him. The "doctor" delicately shoves it up there; he doesn't want Homer to end up too dumb or too smart. Similar to the Dilbert example: |
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The first Johnny Turbo comic shows Johnny hyping up the TurboGrafx-16's CD-ROM attachment as being superior to "Feka"'s own CD platform, and one of the arguments used is that Sherlock Holmes: Consulting Detective came out on Turbo CD two years ago. Anyone who's actually played Sherlock Holmes knows that, while it might have been a nice showcase for FMV technology at the time, it's not exactly riveting as a game. | |
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Parks and Recreation: Andy is normally The Ditz beyond belief, but he still gets a moment like this when he asks Tom, a sleazy Casanova Wannabe, if he's too old for April (he's twenty-nine, she just turned twenty), and Tom says no, he doesn't think so. | |
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The character of '90s Kid from Atop the Fourth Wall serves this purpose with regard to many of the worst qualities of The Dark Age of Comic Books. | |
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At the end of 8-Bit Theater Fighter and Black Mage are searching for jobs on a board, that all happen to be the plots of the 3D Final Fantasy games. The ever-dim Fighter is enthusiastic about them while Black Mage hates all of them, bar the Final Fantasy IX parallel (Which is already taken). Notably he'd prefer to chew his own neck off than do Final Fantasy X. Becomes Everyone Has Standards when Fighter dismisses everything after Final Fantasy XI as a waste of time. |
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Inverted (Bolstered by a Fool's scorn) in SMG4 Bloopers episode "The Pursuit of Happiness" where Meggy, in a funk after winning the final Splatfest and having no more purpose in life, is reluctant to even try finding a new job as she feels Splatfest is all she was ever good at. However, when Bob says that jobs are overrated, she begs the others to help her find a job. | |
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Any idea the Pointy-Haired Boss of Dilbert likes will be seen as stupid. He's also a fan of Barney & Friends. Weaponised by Wally. Aware of his own uncoolness, he grows a goatee so that they would go out of fashion as no one would want to be like him. Taken to extremes when a guy who is trying to avoid being uncool like Wally or Dilbert (who is clean-shaven) pulls off a ridiculous reverse goatee. |
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Parker Lewis Can't Lose has Parker campaigning for Student Council President or whomever students elect, only to notice he was doing it purely for pride and has no real program, unlike his main opponent. He decides to drop out of the race by recording and editing voice samples from Ms. Musso and playing them at the end of her speech, to make it look like she's endorsing him, driving everybody to vote for his opponent. | |
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In Freefall, Florence is discussing the planet's plan for an artificial second moon. Jean's natural moon was about 1500 km in diameter, and Earth's is 3476 km in diameter, so Ecosystems Unlimited thought adding a second moon of about 2000 km would balance things out. Helix wonders if that was a good idea. Sam says it's what he would've done. Helix winces and says there should be safeguards against something like that. Indeed, it turns out that not only did the second moon not solve the problem it was meant to solve, it caused a whole bunch more. | |
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A Dudley Do-Right short had a man call Dudley the "squarest Mountie I've ever seen", prompting Inspector Fenwick to ask him... | |
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In Papers, Please, the player can earn a plaque praising them for their excellent work, provided they haven't gotten any citations up to that point. Given who you're working for, it qualifies, and is underscored when one of your entrants takes notice of it: | |
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In Animaniacs, Slappy tells Skippy that all the junk food he's eaten has rotted his brain and adds "No wonder you like that Bonkers show." | |
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In Garfield, anything Jon likes is subject to this. Jon has ridiculously weird taste in things and tends to purchase things on impulse, then almost immediately forget he had those things upon obtaining them. There's a comic strip where Garfield is watching an infomercial for something unknown but so bad that he can't help complaining endlessly. Jon walks by and tells Garfield he has three of the product. In the Garfield and Friends episode "Rolling Romance", Jon is the only one at an Honest John's Dealership who's interested in a particular car that even the dealer is initially hesitant to sell him—it turns out the car is possessed and madly in love with Jon (whereupon Garfield is quick to question the car's tastes). Both the comic strip and the TV show have done a showcase of useless things Jon has bought over the years, such as a battery-powered battery recharger. (Decades before cellphone power banks were a thing.) |
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Screen Rant Pitch Meetings involves a screenwriter pitching the movie that is the subject of the video to a producer, who offers feedback on the idea. Since the videos are meant to poke fun at the movies, whenever the producer likes some part of the movie (as opposed to raising a legitimate objection only to quickly drop it), it's usually for a very stupid reason. | |
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Armond White, a film critic who is the subject of the Video Game Dunkey quote above, is notorious for often giving films with near-universal praise negative reviews (Toy Story 3, Get Out, Pulp Fiction) and positive reviews to reviled ones (Jack and Jill, Grown Ups, Norbit). Dunkey says that he's still useful as a critic, meaning you just have to see what he thinks of a film and figure the film's actual quality is the opposite of whatever he says. | |
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The Big Bang Theory: Wolowitz builds a radio-controlled car that looks like Stephen Hawking in his wheelchair. What finally convinces him it's in poor taste is when resident jerkass Sitcom Archnemesis Kripke thinks it's funny. | |
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In Homestuck, one of John Egbert's quirks is that he likes Guilty Pleasure movies without feeling guilty, so any poster on his wall is this by way of stealth insult. | |
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Gabriel Morton of Let's Drown Out calls this the "Man Covered in Shit" problem. You could have the most obviously correct argument in the world, but if a man covered in shit walks up, points at you, and shouts, "I agree with this guy!" then your argument will become permanently associated with the man covered in shit, and who in their right mind wants to agree with him? | |
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Often in Penny Arcade, Tycho will disparage some work of fiction, then Gabe will say he likes it for the exact same reasons. Notably, after Annarchy wonders what drooling moron comprises the bulk of E3's target audience. | |
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The Pokémon Squad: Ash Ketchum is depicted as Too Dumb to Live and is a fan of Johnny Test and Breadwinners (although the latter was only brought up once). Barney both supports and is best friends with George W. Bush, who is described by everyone else as the most incompetent president in history. |
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Schlock Mercenary: One of Tagon's Toughs is completely satisfied with his plastic surgery, until the local Non-Action Guy tells him he really likes the look and the Tough instantly decides to change it. Schlock himself is not really an idiot, just impulsive, highly aggressive and generally odd due to alien physiology, but Petey still doesn't have a very good view of him. So when he finds out not only they coincide on something, but the sergeant might have thought of it first... |
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MAD often does the inverse of this trope- rather than proving that something's bad by having someone with unsound judgment like it, the magazine often proves that someone has less than sound judgment by having them approve of something bad. For example, in the parody of Angel, a girl who's possessed by a demon starts saying things like "Al Gore would be an excellent president," before concluding by saying that the show and its actors will win awards, resulting in the characters present being horrified at how much she's been affected. | |
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In The Owl House if Hooty, very much an inversion of The Owl-Knowing One, thinks it's a good idea, the other characters will instantly think it's a bad one. Of note, when Eda agonizes over whether or not to let Luz enroll in Hexside, Hooty mentions that Eda taught him everything he knows, and he turned out fine. Eda immediately goes to talk to Principal Bump. | |
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Far Cry Primal: Urki calls Takkar "Smart Man", as he regards all of Takkar's advice as helpful. The problem is that Urki is a Cloudcuckoolander who was Born in the Wrong Century, and is regarded by the rest of the tribe as the prehistoric equivalent of a Half-Witted Hillbilly, meaning his admiration isn't worth much. | |
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Played with to self-deprecating effect on Top Gear (UK) before Jeremy Clarkson got himself fired. Any car that any of the three hosts actually owned was immediately moved to the "Uncool" section of their Cool Wall. | |
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Fall of Starfleet, Rebirth of Friendship: Dark Conquest is a Card-Carrying Villain and Nightmare Fetishist motivated purely by the desire to hurt others just because he can. In "The War Ends with Light", he spends some time reading and praising Ctrl+Alt+Del as one of the greatest works he's ever seen. | |
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In the Arthur episode "Team Trouble", Arthur, Francine, and Buster have to do a group project on Ancient Rome. They decide to make a comic book about it, but none of them do any research for it. Arthur and Francine realize the low quality of their portions after showing them to other people, who point out the problems in them. Buster, on the other hand, concludes his portion isn't good because Binky liked it. | |
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In the Garfield and Friends episode "Rolling Romance", Jon is the only one at an Honest John's Dealership who's interested in a particular car that even the dealer is initially hesitant to sell him—it turns out the car is possessed and madly in love with Jon (whereupon Garfield is quick to question the car's tastes). | |
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In a A Bit of Fry and Laurie sketch, Stephen claims that he stole Hugh's brain as a practical joke. Hugh then comes out and praises TV presenter Noel Edmonds and Secretary of Education Kenneth Baker. | |
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In Nodwick, being a henchman is such an undesirable job that they can kill any annoying fad if people think they like it. They proudly claim that they got rid of handlebar mustaches and Nehru tunics this way. (Bellbottom trousers died out on their own, but they were prepared to take them out too.) | |
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The song "A Bag of Weed" includes the lyric "When stupid people need a thrill, they rent The Rocketeer!" | |
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Kim Possible spends an episode working at a taco joint she hates under a mean (and dorky) boss to afford a designer jacket. Ron buys it for her at the end, only for her former boss to walk by wearing the same thing. | |
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The Stalking Zuko Series does a variant on this with pairing Katara and Aang, and Zuko and Mai, two Avatar: The Last Airbender pairings that the author does not consider viable- the characters who ship them aren't stupid, per se, but the reasons given for each pairing are suspect at best. In Katara and Aang's case, Katara is told by Pakku and Yugodanote The waterbending master who has fairly sexist views, and a woman who's resigned to the Water Tribes' patriarchal status quo that as a woman from the Southern Water Tribe, her only real option in her lifetime is to marry well, and if she doesn't want to marry Hahn, prince of the Northern Water Tribe, the best alternative is Aang, the Avatar (For obvious reasons, Katara doesn't mention being in love with Zuko, the new Fire Lord of their defeated enemy). As for Zuko and Mai, Zuko mainly gets back together with Mai for the sake of his own honor. By a little over halfway through "Not Stalking Firelord Zuko," both pairings are permanently broken up. | |
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Truth and Consequences: After Mayura becomes an Enemy Within and takes over Luka's consciousness, he proceeds to gleefully encourage Marinette's belief that Chat Noir is at fault for not listening to Ladybug after her deal with Hawkmoth. | |
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In the Futurama episode "The Day the Earth Stood Stupid", the entire population of the world except Fry become chronically stupid as a result of an invasion by the Brain Spawn. As soon as Fry figures this out, Bender declares "Let's all join the Reform Party!" For syndication, it was changed to "Tea Party". | |
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Death Comes as the End: While musing about her son's scribe Kameni and whether her granddaughter should pursue him romantically, Esa says Imhotep approves of him- but then, she's had ample opportunity to observe that Imhotep is not the brightest bulb in the box. | |
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All in the Family: In the first-season episode "Writing a President", when Archie learns that Mike wrote a letter to President Nixon critical of his economic policies, he writes a letter of praise to Nixon. In a Dream Sequence, Archie narrates his letter, showing Edith, Gloria and Mike and all — even Mike — nod approvingly and pat him on the back for "telling it like it is." | |
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In a 2008 Saturday Night Live sketch, presidential candidate John McCain goes out of his way to escape from a televised event, hosted by his running mate Sarah Palin, where McCain is to receive an endorsement from George W. Bush. | |
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Barney both supports and is best friends with George W. Bush, who is described by everyone else as the most incompetent president in history. | |
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FoxTrot: Paige Fox finds a pair of retro pants and squees over them to Peter, until Bumbling Dad Roger walks by and mentions he used to have a pair just like that and suggests they should go around dressed the same. Paige's next line to Peter is, "Want some pants?" After trying and failing to get Jason to stop playing a computer game, Andy deliberately invokes this by having Paige pretend she likes the game he's playing. It worked. |
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Stranger Things: Ted Wheeler's utterly clueless about what is going on around him with his family. In Season 2, we see he has a "Reagan/Bush '84" sign proudly displayed outside of his house. This gets more jarring when you consider that one of Reagan's most memorable quotes is: "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - and he implicitly trusted the government agents, because they were from the government and claimed to be there to help... Bob Newby is constantly shown to be a wholesome and boring guy in comparison to the edgier, hipper adolescents. During a heart-to-heart between Jonathan and Will, immediately after Jonathan says that Kenny Rogers sucks, Bob comes in to proclaim that he loves Kenny Rogers. One scene later, we see the Byers household watch Mr. Mom. Bob is laughing uproariously, Joyce is having a good time, while Will and Jonathan are bored to death. |
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Tristan in Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series is connected to this for being a fan of Naruto: The Abridged Series, Yu-Gi-Oh! GX and The Suite Life of Zack & Cody. | |
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Bully: If Jimmy gets a tattoo, the only groups who react positively are the Bullies, Greasers and Townies, as none of them particularly care about education or discipline. The other cliques all disapprove and insult him, with the prefects actively harassing him for violating the school's dress code until and unless he wears something that covers them up. | |
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South Park: A safe way to figure out what the South Park writers don't like is to see whether either Cartman or Butters likes it. This is inverted with "Cartoon Wars", however. Cartman is the only one of the main cast who hates Family Guy, an opinion shared by the creators. In "Mecha-Streisand", the only person in the whole town who reacted to Barbra Streisand positively was Sheila, who's intentionally characterized to be as annoying and unrelatable as possible. Exploited by the parents in "Chinpokomon" when their kids are getting caught up in the Chinpokomon craze. They pretend to be fans of it themselves, and the kids all immediately drop the hobby on the spot, because all adults (or at least all parents) are inherently uncool and lame, therefore anything they like must be just as uncool and lame as they are. In "Timmy 2000", the kids, and eventually the adults, get addicted to Ritalin and become so dull and boring that they actually like Phil Collins. When the pharmacists hear of this, they have a "My God, What Have I Done?" moment. In "Chef Goes Nanners", when Chef is campaigning to have the town's flag changed because he thinks it's racist, the townspeople in favor of keeping the flag the way it is are none too happy to learn that the KKK is on their side. Jimbo and Ned disguise themselves as Klansmen and infiltrate their meeting to convince them to switch sides... by straight up telling them that pretty much everyone hates them and will vote against whatever side they support on principle, so they should pretend to support the side they want to lose instead. And it works! In "Hellen Keller: The Musical", the kids try to put on a huge extravaganza of a Thanksgiving play based on Butters' seemingly glowing responses to the kindergartners' play. In the end, it turns out that the kindergartners' play was poor and used limited resources, the kids only then realizing that it was Butters they were listening to. In "The China Problem", the dorky Butters thinks Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was pretty good even though everyone else thinks it was like watching Indy getting raped. "Funnybot" has everyone annoyed by Tyler Perry in a Madea outfit. Token is the only one who finds it funny, much to his own chagrin. |
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This has become one of Family Guy's trademarks: most, if not all, arguments made in favor of something the writers disagree with is presented as abundantly foolish and unsympathetically, while their own beliefs are presented civilly and without any kind of realistic flaws. In "Whistle While Your Wife Works" among the questions Stewie asks Jillian to bait her into giving dumb answers, he asks for her views regarding the recent activity of homeland security. Inverted at the end of "The Griffin Family History" when there's a whole conversation where Peter confesses that he doesn't like The Godfather and Chris, Brian, Lois, and Stewie all beat down his opinion, effectively saying they feel he doesn't like it because he's a moron. In "Road to Germany", when Stewie and Brian travel to 1939 Poland, Nazis are seen wearing John McCain campaign buttons. In "Tales of a Third Grade Nothing", Stewie, Brian, and Frank Sinatra, Jr. renovate their old nightclub into the swanky place, which is initially a success, only for everyone there to leave once Andy Dick shows up. An in-universe example occurs in the episode "Dog Gone", when Brian's book, Faster than the Speed of Love, is celebrated by a book club for the mentally challenged. (In a deleted scene in the same episode, Peter was among the people who likes Brian's book.) The song "A Bag of Weed" includes the lyric "When stupid people need a thrill, they rent The Rocketeer!" In "Trump Guy", Donald Trump calls Bob's Burgers his favorite show, and Peter warns the Emmy voters in the audience that a vote for the show is a sign of support for him (the show has won two Emmys, and the awards are known for their anti-Trump stance). |
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The Mountain and the Wolf: Less "fool" and more "violent psychopath", but the Wolf's every word of praise tends to shame the people it's directed at. While the Wolf's advice is useful during warfare (even when he's clearly operating on Warhammer rules), once Daenerys takes King's Landing it's worse than useless, as he can't seem to get it through his skull that Daenerys doesn't want to rule the city with an iron fist. Several of his suggestions are so abhorrent the heroes do the opposite even if they were originally going to do something similar: Grey Worm orders the Lannister prisoners spared after the Wolf starts butchering them one by one, Daenerys spares a group of Dothraki she'd sentenced to death earlier when the Wolf asks how gruesome she wants their demise to be, and Tyrion decides to spare Bronn's life (despite having barely avoided an assassination attempt) due to the Wolf urging him to kill Bronn. On the other hand, his opinions of several characters are in line with the opinions of whoever he's talking to (such as praising Tyrion's intelligence in front of Varys or demeaning Ramsay Bolton in front of Jon). Rather than change their opinions, it just makes them confused as to what the hell kind of morality system the Wolf operates on. |
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Exaggerated in the original iteration of the Virgin Walk vs. the Chad Stride. Anything Chad does is deliberately opposite to the uncool Virgin: if the Virgin likes listening to music with isolating headphones, then Chad has never listened to music in his life. If the Virgin prefers walking in a way where he'll take up less space and not bump into anyone, then Chad will take the obnoxiously widest stride imaginable just so he can push people out of his way. | |
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Forum Fantasy: The Fanboy element is represented by an icon of a Buster Sword, and depicts the Final Fantasy VII fanbase as rabidly defending their favorite game and Sephiroth. | |
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