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Dateless Grave

189 statements
36 feature instances
21 referencing feature instances

Dateless Grave	type	FeatureClass
Dateless Grave	label	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave	page	DatelessGrave
Dateless Grave	comment	Gravestones in TV and films tend not to have full dates on them, unlike in real life. Presumably this, like so many other tropes, has to do with movies being shown on TV and released on home video. It also helps prevent Continuity Snarl in cases of intentionally Ambiguous Time Period and/or Vague Age. As this is a Death Trope, unmarked spoilers abound. Beware.
Dateless Grave	fetched	2024-02-14T20:45:35Z
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Dateless Grave	processingComment	Dropped link to ContinuityNod: Not an Item - FEATURE
Dateless Grave	processingComment	Dropped link to DeathIsCheap: Not an Item - FEATURE
Dateless Grave	isPartOf	DBTropes
Dateless Grave / int_109f7814	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_109f7814	comment	Sherlock: Sherlock's grave gives only his name. It's a damn classy gravestone, though.
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Dateless Grave / int_14afa9d	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_14afa9d	comment	Sleepless Domain: The markers within the Magical Girl memorial park are all of an identical design, inscribed with only the deceased girl's name and her sigil. In addition to concealing the timeframe of the comic, the lack of dates serves in-universe as a subtle way of brushing aside the reality that none of these girls lived to be eighteen.
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Dateless Grave / int_1b71921c	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_1b71921c	comment	Misfile: Angelica's grave is dateless and surname-less as well.
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Dateless Grave / int_1bdeba5a	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_1bdeba5a	comment	X-Men: The X-Men have an entire cemetery full of dateless graves. However, it was averted when Jean Grey "died" for the first time — her original lifespan was 1956 to 1980 (making her 24 when she died the first time), if you were wondering. Granted, it would be awkward to have a bunch of graves with a series of dates written on them for each successive death and return. Also, given the effects of Comic-Book Time, the dates would start getting really confusing.
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Dateless Grave / int_21e4ee5c	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_21e4ee5c	comment	Buck Rogers in the 25th Century: In the Pilot Movie, Buck finds the gravestones of his parents, but doesn't find any dates on them. Dr. Theopolis tells Buck that dates weren't that important as people were dying due to the war in the late 20th century.
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Dateless Grave / int_26ef42e7	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_26ef42e7	comment	Kevin & Kell: Corrie visits her mother's grave, and in the only panel showing the dates on the grave, her hand is blocking the last two digits of the year of death, although it is shown that her mother was born in 1968. The strip never makes any explicit reference to what year it is, except for the Y2K arc being set in late 1999.
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Dateless Grave / int_27286fb2	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_27286fb2	comment	Spider-Man: No Way Home: In a similar vein to the Winter Soldier example, the dates on Aunt May's grave are obscured.
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Dateless Grave / int_28f21756	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_28f21756	comment	Nuzlocke Comics: In most comics that show gravestones of fallen party members, instead of "birth date-death date", they'll be engraved with "level captured-level died".
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Dateless Grave / int_2e3e7ac2	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_2e3e7ac2	comment	Justice League: Justified when Hawkgirl tries to bury Solomon Grundy according to Earth's customs, but only knows that he was "Born on a Monday."
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Dateless Grave / int_39c20861	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_39c20861	comment	Highlander: Richie Ryan's tombstome lists how long he lived (22 years) but not the actual dates. Of course, part of this may have to do with Richie being an Immortal and him "dying" in a motorcycle race two years before his final, permanent death.
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Dateless Grave / int_41b0198a	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_41b0198a	comment	The Dresden Files: In the third novel, Grave Peril, Harry is given a Prematurely Marked Grave and gravestone by one of his (many) vampire nemeses. The gravestone has no date but reads "Harry Dresden—He died doing the right thing". Harry spends Ghost Story as an Only Mostly Dead spirit and uses the grave (still open and dateless, since they Never Found the Body) as a place to hide during the day. As of Cold Days, he is still alive, the grave is still dateless, and there is still a huge hole in the ground because apparently the city officials were REALLY bribed. At least it's one less thing he has to worry about finding the money for when he needs it for real.
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Dateless Grave / int_4ef3f4f4	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_4ef3f4f4	comment	Between Dreams and Memories: Downplayed; Schlatt's grave marks his lifespan to be "SMPLive 199X â€“ DreamSMP 202X", though not the specific year.
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Dateless Grave / int_4f6709cf	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_4f6709cf	comment	Spider-Man (PS4): Ben Parker's grave reads "1953-2010". In the epilogue, May's grave reads "1952-2018".
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Dateless Grave / int_5755b96a	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_5755b96a	comment	The Order of the Stick: Elan does not put a date of birth on Therkla's grave, as he does not know when she was born, although the date of death sets the story in the year 1184, according to whatever calendar they're using. Which fits with the dates given on the deva's Belkar-evilness-over-time graph. In a prequel book we see Eugene's grave...which he's used several times, with different dates each time. We do not, however, know when he died the final, permanent time.
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Dateless Grave / int_584365d4	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_584365d4	comment	Melody: There are no dates on the tombstone of Melody's mother.
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Melody (Visual Novel)	hasFeature	Dateless Grave / int_584365d4
Dateless Grave / int_59151283	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_59151283	comment	Metal Gear: The Boss' gravestone in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater reads "192X-1964"
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Dateless Grave / int_5b422f2c	comment	ClanDestine: Justified. Directly after the first arc, in which two relatives died, the two youngest members of the family visit the family cemetery and notice that there are no dates or last names on any of the graves. Their father explains that since the Destines are very long-lived, they don't put anything that could give away their secret on the graves.
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Dateless Grave / int_62f94c6	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_62f94c6	comment	The Dark Knight Trilogy: Thomas and Martha Wayne's graves are seen in The Dark Knight Rises, and both are undated. Bruce Wayne's grave is seen is the same scene, also without dates; had a date of death been etched, it would have been wrong.
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Dateless Grave / int_69d15cc0	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_69d15cc0	comment	Marvel Cinematic Universe: Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Nick Fury's grave does have dates, they're just obscured by flowers. Averted with Bucky, however, since it's quite hard to redate the Second World War. Spider-Man: No Way Home: In a similar vein to the Winter Soldier example, the dates on Aunt May's grave are obscured.
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Dateless Grave / int_6ae1d164	comment	Galaxy of Fear: Most of the gravestones the protagonists of Galaxy of Fear: City of the Dead see are etched in a language they can't read. The one that does have an epigraph in Basic, too, doesn't have a date listed. This may have been because this is a Star Wars Legends novel; at the time of writing, the only dating system to be established was Before/After the Battle of Yavin. Since the book takes place less than a year ABY, no one would have started using it as a dating system yet.
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Dateless Grave / int_6cb2d709	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_6cb2d709	comment	Harry Potter: Averted in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. For the first time in his life, Harry visits his parents' graves in Godric's Hollow, and the dates on the gravestones are practically the only place in the whole series where specific years are given. This heightens the emotional impact of the scene considerably. (The only other bit of dating evidence is from Chamber of Secrets, on Nearly-Headless Nick's deathday cake, which, appropriately enough, is tombstone-shaped.) We can date the series from 1991-1998.
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Dateless Grave / int_6f734712	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_6f734712	comment	Smallville: Chloe Sullivan's grave only has her birth and death year. Might be due to the fact that her birthday is a mild Continuity Snarl.
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Smallville	hasFeature	Dateless Grave / int_6f734712
Dateless Grave / int_6fa2c385	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_6fa2c385	comment	Max Payne 3: Downplayed during the flashbacks to several months prior at the New Jersey cemetery where the DeMarco mob guns for Max. The cemetery also holds the graves of several characters from the first two games, including Nicole Horne, Valerie Winterson, and Vinnie Gognitti; their graves only have the year of their deaths listed which coincide with the year the games they died in were published (2001 for Horne, 2003 for Winterson and Gognitti). Averted with the graves of Max's wife Michelle and infant daughter Rose, which list both their full dates of birth and the day they were murdered which set off Max's whole story (August 22, 1998).
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Dateless Grave / int_80c382f4	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_80c382f4	comment	Defenders of the Earth: In the episode "100 Proof Highway" (a Very Special Episode themed around teenaged alcoholism) Mandrake learns that Kshin has innocently started drinking liquor in imitation of his peers. To show Kshin what this could lead to, Mandrake conjures up a vision in which an aged-up Kshin dies in a drink driving accident. The vision ends with a shot of a gravestone bearing the inscription "Kshin RIP", with no dates given.
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Dateless Grave / int_86c3beca	comment	Girl Genius: The lost Heterodyne heir's grave in this page. Although it's not so much to stop the comic from becoming dated as to make sure we don't know what century this steampunk parallel Europe is set in. Though the grave does have a year-of-birth and the number of days he lived. However, Agatha's foot is blocking a clear view of the first two digits of the year, thus making the century of that event unreadable (though based on the shape of the characters we can see, it's likely 1872, which would seem to fit into the Victorian culture underlying the steampunk). On the page previous to that one there's another stone, with 'Born 1575' and five Died dates, from 1602 to 1623.
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Dateless Grave / int_87e00d8e	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_87e00d8e	comment	Teen Titans (2003): While not a proper grave, Terra's statue is the same idea but plays this straight. It's even more notable because her statue in the comics featured one of the few times graves weren't dateless.
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Dateless Grave / int_898ba48d	comment	All the dog graves scattered around Stampy's Lovely World do not state the birth/taming dates of the dogs or their death dates.
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Dateless Grave / int_8f4ee60f	comment	Back to the Future: Averted in the trilogy. George McFly-A's death in the alternate timeline is clearly stated as March 15, 1973 in Part II, and when we see an exact date for Doc Brown's grave in Part III (September 7, 1885), trying to avoid that fate drives the entire movie.
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Dateless Grave / int_9068877a	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_9068877a	comment	Red vs. Blue: During an April Fool's day episode, Sarge and Simmon's tombstones only show their death year as 2004, the year the video was released, and the birth year as "????".
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Dateless Grave / int_9a0cb5f4	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_9a0cb5f4	comment	Bob's Burgers: In "Show Mama from the Grave", Lily Belcher's (Bob's mother) grave doesn't have any dates on it, however, this might be on purpose by the show's creator's part, on the account of the Ambiguous Time Period angle.
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Dateless Grave / int_9a7088bc	comment	Star Trek: The Original Series: The grave marker created by Gary Mitchell in "Where No Man has Gone Before". The use of Stardates helped hide the time line during the run of the show. Years were attributed to events as the Movies and Sequel Series came out.
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Dateless Grave / int_a183d57f	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_a183d57f	comment	Futurama: Fry's nephew, Philip Fry, seems to have a lot of biographical information on his grave, but interestingly enough, no dates.
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Dateless Grave / int_b4501394	type	Dateless Grave
Dateless Grave / int_b4501394	comment	Left 4 Dead 2: Averted, as graffiti in the safehouses has the birth and death dates of various people, pointing that the game is set in 2009. Banners hanging in the mall further show that the game is set in fall of 2009, at around the time it was released.
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Dateless Grave / int_b8c3cc30	comment	Young Justice (2010): Artemis's grave has a middle name reveal, but not a date.
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Dateless Grave / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who: Amy and Rory's gravestone in the episode "The Angels Take Manhattan" (in which both characters are separately sent back in time by the same Weeping Angel) contains only their names and their ages when they died.
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Dateless Grave / int_d3381e70	comment	Captain America: The Winter Soldier: Nick Fury's grave does have dates, they're just obscured by flowers. Averted with Bucky, however, since it's quite hard to redate the Second World War.
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Dateless Grave	processingCategory2	Death Tropes
Dateless Grave	processingCategory2	Funeral Tropes
Alisik (Comic Book) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
ClanDestine (1994) (Comic Book) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Eternals (2021) (Comic Book) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Lab Rats (Comic Book) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
X-Men: Before the Fall (Comic Book) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Between Dreams and Memories Universe (Fanfic) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Captain America: The Winter Soldier / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Hot Fuzz / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
The Dark Knight Rises / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Girls' Last Tour (Manga) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Buck Rogers in the 25th Century / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Dollhouse / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Max Payne 3 (Video Game) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (Video Game) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Melody (Visual Novel) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Stampy's Lovely World (Web Video) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Green Kirby Air Ride (Webcomic) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Sleepless Domain (Webcomic) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave
Welcome to Hell (Webcomic) / int_82f4639	type	Dateless Grave

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