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A villainous antagonist is a common driving force behind conflict in stories, so it makes natural sense to write one in. But villainy requires performing villainous acts; a villain who doesn't really act on those is difficult to root against. The result is a character who is treated as a bad guy by the principal characters, despite never actually doing anything to justify that amount of hate. They might even be sympathetic by virtue of their social position. Any astute arguments and observations by this character are to be dismissed by the audience, because they are Evilâ„¢. Naturally, this can boomerang back onto the protagonist and make them a Designated Hero — a character regarded as "good" despite having no significant virtues — as often, the "villain" is only considered such because they dislike/oppose the "hero". Works with Designated Heroes tend to have Designated Villains. Conversely, Protagonist-Centered Morality isn't a case of having weaksauce villains; it's a personification of being an ass for its own sake, and being lauded for it. In both cases one has to be certain about the creator's intentions about who's sympathetic and who is right. Particularly bad attempts to avert this may include having the character in question Kick the Dog in a completely unrelated situation, which proves that no, they're not a good person, but still doesn't prove that they were wrong in the main conflict that they participated in. Please note that Tropes Are Tools, as this can sometimes appear to happen, but it's actually done on purpose to add more shades of grey to a story, or to show that the heroes are not completely perfect. When an antagonist is not intended to be a villain but a genuine good guy, they are a Hero Antagonist or at least an Anti-Villain. Keep in mind that antagonists and villains are very different things. Also do not confuse with Unintentionally Sympathetic, which is where a villain does do bad things but gets audience sympathy despite this, or Offstage Villainy, which is where the bad guy did bad things... but not on screen. Compare and contrast Rooting for the Empire, Poke the Poodle (this trope Played for Laughs), Villain Ball Magnet, Hate Sink (a character the show wants you to hate just as much as other characters in-universe do), Unintentionally Sympathetic (how an audience typically reacts to such a character), Villain Has a Point, Informed Wrongness, Felony Misdemeanor (something minor being treated as horrific for drama or humor purposes), Draco in Leather Pants (when the fans think a character is this but the facts say otherwise) and Villainy-Free Villain (a villain who would be a Hero Antagonist were it not for being a complete Jerkass). May be the result of a failed attempt at making someone Villain by Default. (Incidentally, the word 'villain' originates from that of villein, a type of peasant in feudal Europe, which says something about how classist medieval society was.) noreallife |
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Anytime Sting has attempted to play a heel has been this: His first heel turn (at least since his tenure in the UWF territory) took place in late 1999 when he turned on Hulk Hogan by attacking Hogan with a baseball bat. Problem is that this was Hulk Hogan, the man who'd spent the last few years trying to kill WCW. In fact, the only real difference between face Sting and heel Sting was that he attacked wrestlers fans were supposed to like (such as past-their-rime veterans like Hogan and Ric Flair, who WCW fans were tired of seeing at that point) instead of wrestlers fans were supposed to hate and most fans refused to boo Sting for it. It was only a couple of months before Sting was a face again. His second major heel turn was in 2008 as leader of the Main Event Mafia. He wanted respect from the younger members of the TNA locker room, but was so noble in going about it (not to mention that the young guys really were disrespectful towards Sting) that fans took his side, and the much easier to hate Kurt Angle had to usurp control of the group. His next (and last) heel turn happened in 2010. His targets were the likes of Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter. While Sting did actually act villainous by attacking them unprovoked, the fans still sided with him because his enemies were widely hated by the TNA fanbase for screwing up the company they loved so much. He also kept warning Dixie about some kind of impending deception, which she responded to by suspending him. Sure enough, Hogan, Bischoff and Jarrett would turn heel and screw Dixie out of her ownership of the company, admitting that they'd planned to do so since they came to TNA, making Sting the good guy in retrospect. |
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Johnny Turbo: FEKA is treated like deceptive scum seemingly because they aren't advertising how awesome their rival's gaming console is while trying to shill their own products. And even if they don't advertise the fact that their CD console needs their 16-bit console to work, it's more the fault of the customers for randomly spending hundreds of dollars on a product they know nothing about. | |
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The Old World of Darkness wasn't named on a whim. Like every other playable faction, the Mages are legitimate dangers to the free will and physical welfare of mortals (the majority of sentient beings) in their own right. Every sourcebook got an antagonist faction that was outright stated to be the designated villain because it holds the interests of humanity above other things. Most human corporations in Werewolf are actually reasonable enough, the Technocracy brought on the Enlightenment, and the various vampire-hunting organizations aren't exactly unreasonable in their desire to hunt and slay creatures that have to kill humans with some frequency to survive. All that said, the 'villainous' parts also hold true for all the antagonist factions. The Technocracy brought on the Enlightenment, but back then they were the Order of Reason and they were the rebels against the stifling status quo of Hermetic traditionalism and Christian fundamentalism. Over time, as befits the darkness of the WoD, they became the villains, crushing the world in their grip in their goal to keep humanity 'safe', but only on their terms. Similarly, the Wyrm is a very real evil force with no current redeeming qualities, and vampire hunters rarely distinguish between a Sabbat Tzimisce who likes to decorate his living room with the skins of his still-alive ghouls and the Anarch Toreador who only feeds from willing supplicants and never kills. It's more Grey-and-Gray Morality with ample degrees of What Measure Is a Non-Human? and Utopia Justifies the Means. No one is unequivocally a good guy in the WoD. |
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Crossed: Edmund in the "Yellow Belly" arc of Badlands. While he has his villainous moments (namely defiling Nicole's corpse and his cowardice causing the deaths of Sweeny and Nicole), his cowardice does keep him alive, and the bravery of his peers comes across as bravado bordering on stupidity. | |
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Thanks to the crossover comic storyline Avengers vs. X-Men, Cyclops is positioned as one of the most hated "villains" in-universe. The problem with this, other than the very idea of Cyclops going from X-Men's Jerk with a Heart of Gold leader to a villain, is that he killed Xavier while being controlled by the Dark Phoenix. No one in-universe brings up the fact that he was under the powers of a force strong enough to defeat Galactus in favor of just being a dick to him. This includes Wolverine, a guy who killed another member of the X-Men (Northstar) while brainwashed. Before anyone asks, yes, Wolverine is being a Hypocrite to Cyclops in front of Northstar (Death Is Cheap). Cyclops reenters this post-Secret Wars (2015) where we find out that, despite uniting the mutant populace and bringing a level of peace through his (rather unorthodox) actions, the time skip has somehow made him a monster on the level of Adolf Hitler (and yes, he was actually called that). For over a year, readers wanted to know just what exactly he did (especially since an early story seemed to paint the mutant Sunfire as just as bad), only for Death of X to reveal that Cyclops wasn't even alive when he acted! It was Emma Frost, who somehow convinced the world that he led a group of mutants to alter the Terrigen Mists so that they would be safe for all. And he was disintegrated by Black Bolt for his actions! Much of this owed to the fact that Marvel, being overzealous in protecting from leaks, hadn't told the writers what Cyclops did aside from it apparently being really, really bad. Writers naturally assumed it had to be something seriously awful, hence the comparisons to Hitler, when the actual bad thing turned out to be kind of neutral. A minor example sees Hellion punished by Cyclops for killing an out of control Karima. Even though she was attacking Utopia, there was absolutely no one else able to stop her from killing everyone there, and the entire crux of Cyclops's side during the Schism was that the kids needed to be trained to fight and defend themselves. He ends up being shipped off to Wolverine (An unrepentant mass murderer) at the Jean Grey School, who goes so far as locking him up. Pretty much every book Hellion appeared in at the time attempted to drive home just how horrible and wrong his actions were, with literally everyone around him openly despising and mistreating him, him being mutilated and dismembered due to the negligence of the X-Men leaders and then being mistreated and insulted for being childish to be traumatized and turn against the people who are giving him this ridiculous treatment. What made it completely absurd and ridiculous was that, at that point, all of the X-Men had either killed someone, helped to kill someone, or ordered someone killed. THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE! |
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Marshal Law: We're just supposed to take it for granted that the superheroes in Pinhead Vs Marshall Law are the same hypocritical perverts as the rest, but they don't do anything evil, demonstrate self-sacrifice and bravery, and actually try to stop the threat of Pinhead and the Cenobites (and are even trying to rescue Law). But because they are seen as a disgrace to the "real heroes" who fought in war (which is in of itself the comic contradicting its earlier message about how the army was a tool of a fascist state) the comic decides that they all deserve to be tortured forever in Hell while Marshall Law not only gets to go scot-free, he also takes a known serial killer with him as an ally in his campaign against the heroes. Law never has any epiphanies about his experience, and practically brags about how much he loves hating superheroes. All in all, everyone involved - perhaps even Law himself - would've been better off leaving him in Hell to rot. | |
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Therese in For Better or for Worse. Her crimes include...marrying Anthony, agreeing to have a child mostly because he wanted one, expecting him to do most of the childcare like he promised, going back to work after birth, eventually getting divorced (giving Anthony custody) and moving to Toronto, all of which is serious gossip fodder for the residents of their small town. It is fairly clear that the author hates this woman and wants everyone else to hate her too. | |
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The Sirens in My Little Pony: FIENDship Is Magic. The way the issue is told, they don't come off as much as a threat as the legends told in Rainbow Rocks implied. Particularly, their singing doesn't cause strife or arguing between other ponies, it makes ponies adore them, and it's implied the Sirens do this as a way to get fame and attention, not to purposefully create trouble. If any harm was caused, it was Offscreen. Enter Star Swirl who, after repeatedly failing to best them in music to stop their spells, just banishes them to another world to get rid of them. At the very best it makes Star Swirl look like a petty jerk who hurled them into another world because he lost a music contest, and some fans go so far as to say Star Swirl is the villain of the comic and the Sirens were victims Driven to Villainy after their banishment. Worth noting this only applies in the comics canon; their appearance and subsequent banishment in Shadow Play clearly depicts them as villains spreading a Hate Plague that compels victims to violently beat the crap out of each other as they engage the Pillars of Equestria with Projectile Spells. | |
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Becky Lynch, a long time Face, turned heel at Summerslam 2018 after attacking her "best friend" Charlotte Flair following their triple threat match (also including defending champion Carmella) for the SmackDown Women's Championship in which Charlotte pinned Becky when she had Carmella in a submission hold. Becky had been angry that Charlotte had been given title opportunity after opportunity every time while Becky had to work hard to do so after being neglected for almost two years. She even gave a heel speech on how the fans never supported her. Contrarily, Becky was one of the most beloved women wrestlers in the company and the fans had been cheering for her for years, even more after attacking Charlotte, no less due to Charlotte's role as a Creator's Pet who the fans had been tired of her Roman Reigns-like push over the last three years. Fan reactions quickly made this Canon Discontinuity. | |
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Most fans who only occasionally glanced at Lucha Underground or had only just started watching it assumed that Johnny Mundo was the babyface during his feud with Alberto El Patron. Even most fans who had been watching the program sympathized with Mundo because he had also been around from the start, while Patron barged in from AAA and acted like he owned the place because he was Mega Champion. | |
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Crécy: The narrator presents the French knights as bloodthirsty monsters, despite the fact that the English soldiers, what with their self-admitted chevauchée tactics, come off as so much worse than the French knights, who are at least trying to defend their homeland and countrymen. | |
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John D. Rockerduck from the Disney comics acts as The Rival to Scrooge McDuck and is typically depicted as a villain. Often, he shows his villainy by cheating or otherwise using underhanded tactics. However, in some stories (such as "Zio Paperone e lo slogan invincibile") he competes with Scrooge while doing nothing particularly villainous (or at least, no more than Scrooge himself does in the story), yet the audience is still supposed to cheer at him losing and getting humiliated at the end, simply because he happens to be in competition with the hero and is a villain "by default". | |
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Invoked during The Sharkasm Crew's Mario Party "Let's Play"s. One player tends to get shunned by the others, usually for having a lucky start to their game. | |
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In the first few months of 2018, Bayley has been repeatedly betrayed by her friend Sasha Banks, and returns the favor by either abandoning Sasha during tag team matches or attacking her post-match. The angle tries to make Bayley in the wrong for throwing her tantrum like a spoiled child, but fails to bring up Sasha taking her friendship with Bayley for granted, and not only did Sasha not apologize for her betrayals or even feel any remorse, she talked about them with a smile on her face. Although the feud ended with both of them patching things up, it repeated a few years later when Bayley attacked Sasha following their failed attempt to reclaim the Women's Tag Team Championship. Once again, the angle doesn't justify Sasha's past betrayals, and makes Bayley out as a despicable person who doesn't value friendship. Furthermore, Bayley even brings up the possibility that Sasha would have betrayed her again if Bayley hadn't beaten her to it. | |
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The Judas Contract repeatedly tries to emphasize Terra as pure evil, treats her sexual relationship with Deathstroke as an Unholy Matrimony, and expects his claims that she's more wicked than him to be taken at face value. This is despite Deathstroke being the mastermind behind the plot to kill the Teen Titans, Terra noticeably not committing any evil acts during the story aside from being The Mole, and overlooking the rather uncomfortable implications of a teenage girl being treated as evil for sleeping with a man several decades her senior. More recent adaptations and works have taken steps to address this, with The Other History of the DC Universe noticeably putting all the blame on Deathstroke's shoulders and treating Terra as a victim. | |
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His next (and last) heel turn happened in 2010. His targets were the likes of Hogan, Eric Bischoff, Jeff Jarrett and Dixie Carter. While Sting did actually act villainous by attacking them unprovoked, the fans still sided with him because his enemies were widely hated by the TNA fanbase for screwing up the company they loved so much. He also kept warning Dixie about some kind of impending deception, which she responded to by suspending him. Sure enough, Hogan, Bischoff and Jarrett would turn heel and screw Dixie out of her ownership of the company, admitting that they'd planned to do so since they came to TNA, making Sting the good guy in retrospect. | |
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Oxventure: Discussed. One of the villains the Oxventurers went up against was Vex, a hermit whose crimes originally seemed to be "cutting down trees and killing animals". Merilwen the party Druid was very keen on fighting him, while Dob rightly pointed out that someone who lives on their own out in the woods pretty much has to cut down trees for firewood and tools and kill animals for meat and clothes to survive. However, it soon comes to light that Vex is a sadistic necromancer who killed Merilwen's original Animal Companion and made him into a hat. After that, even the usually happy-go-lucky Dob agrees that Vex has to die. | |
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The Mayan mythology in the Popol Vuh features a bird demon called Seven Macaw and his non-bird children Zipacna the mountain-raiser and Earthquake. The story insists that they had to die because of their hubris in abrogating the forces of nature to themselves, but only Seven Macaw (who wants to be worshipped as the sun and moon) seems to be doing so maliciously. The rest of the family, including Macaw's powerless wife (who also gets killed), just seem to have fun. Zipacna in particular acts quite humble and goes out of his way to be helpful, and the only thing he asks in return is a fish or crab to eat - but a group of gods takes advantage of that to try to kill him, and he only kills them in revenge and probably preemptive self-defense for the next time. It's this which causes a Cycle of Revenge. | |
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C.H.E.R.U.B. from their eponymous episode in Helluva Boss. Their act of trying to coerce Lyle Lipton out of suicide was presented as objectively wrong because Lyle was an amoral scientist who experimented on children. As C.H.E.R.U.B. pointed out, they were just doing their jobs assigned by the Almighty himself (or in the very least, was approved by God until they accidentally got Lyle killed). They're supposed to be seen as hypocrites for accusing I.M.P. of meddling with humans when they do the same thing. However, that point is negated since I.M.P. are hitmen who will even kill children if the money is good, while C.H.E.R.U.B. at least tries to help people with their meddling. Even though they started the scuffle that led to Lyle's death, it was only because they got fed up with I.M.P. interfering with them and tried to sabotage the opera so that somebody will die, and Cletus fired the shot that killed Lyle because Blitzo fought dirty. Crimson's lawyer from "Oops" is annoying, but he's also just an old guy doing his job, and it's not entirely clear whether he's trying to drag out the proceedings on purpose or if he's just a genuinely slow reader. Despite this, he meets one of the more gruesome fates in the show, as we see his blood left on the door where Ozzie touches it. Some fans took issue with the fact that Glitz and Glam from "Mammon's Magnificent Musical Midseason Special" are portrayed as antagonistic characters who deserve to be beaten by Fizzarolli and then crushed by a pillar at the end of the episode, when the worst thing they do is act like Alpha Bitches to Blitzo and make Fizz run off in tears because of their Villain Song "Klown Bitch", even though they are most likely as/will be as big of victims of Mammon's exploitation as he is. |
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All-Star Batman & Robin, the Boy Wonder: The Justice League are repeatedly insulted and mocked by Batman as a "joy luck club" for ineffectual morons. While this is accurate to how Miller is writing them, all the Justice League does in terms of their interactions with Batman is call him out on his crap, particularly that he's an insane nutjob that's making superheroes look bad and should try and tone it down a bit for the sake of everyone. And they're absolutely correct. | |
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The Boys: Soldier Boy. His worst crime was being a coward and a Phony Veteran. Despite that, he never does anything incredibly heinous, especially compared to his peers, but the story treats his torture at the hands of Butcher as well deserved. | |
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Many of the antagonistic factions in the early books of The Bible come off this way to modern readers, as they tend to be either not really guilty of anything except being enemies of the Israelites (the Midianites, the Hittites), or are legitimately nasty but don't really do anything particularly out of the ordinary for a Bronze Age society, including the Israelites (the Canaanites, the Amalekites) - and yet we're still supposed to cheer when the Israelites, and sometimes even God Himself, subject them to Rape, Pillage, and Burn. In later books the Israelites mellow out considerably, and villains who truly go beyond the pale such as the Babylonians and Haman are introduced. | |
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Chick Tracts: Numerous antagonists. Chick seems to believe that not being Christian automatically makes you a Jerkass, at least in private (which, when you think about it, kind of flies in the face of the "faith not works" message). A good example is Dr. Westhall in "Reverend Wonderful," whose only "crime" is preaching that all religions should live in peace and who immediately does an about-face to a "HAW HAW HAW"-ing douche when the protagonist of the comic tries to convert him. | |
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In Underverse, Cross just wants to recover his world and is hesitant to hurt anyone not directly involved in hurting him. | |
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Similarly, the Technocracy from Mage: The Ascension are largely Designated Villains, by Old World of Darkness standards, given that there are expansion books to play Technocrats and the core books note that the rivalry is somewhat one-sided, with the Technocracy not so much hunting you down as reacting with vague surprise that you're still around when you bust into their laboratory. Later books softened them up a lot. While they are crushing human creativity and enforcing reality to abide by their standards, this is actually done in order to prevent all sorts of monsters and other horrible things creeping into the world, while giving the average person access to 'magic', as technology is magic that anyone can study and use. At worst, they could be seen as Necessarily Evil. The Old World of Darkness wasn't named on a whim. Like every other playable faction, the Mages are legitimate dangers to the free will and physical welfare of mortals (the majority of sentient beings) in their own right. Every sourcebook got an antagonist faction that was outright stated to be the designated villain because it holds the interests of humanity above other things. Most human corporations in Werewolf are actually reasonable enough, the Technocracy brought on the Enlightenment, and the various vampire-hunting organizations aren't exactly unreasonable in their desire to hunt and slay creatures that have to kill humans with some frequency to survive. All that said, the 'villainous' parts also hold true for all the antagonist factions. The Technocracy brought on the Enlightenment, but back then they were the Order of Reason and they were the rebels against the stifling status quo of Hermetic traditionalism and Christian fundamentalism. Over time, as befits the darkness of the WoD, they became the villains, crushing the world in their grip in their goal to keep humanity 'safe', but only on their terms. Similarly, the Wyrm is a very real evil force with no current redeeming qualities, and vampire hunters rarely distinguish between a Sabbat Tzimisce who likes to decorate his living room with the skins of his still-alive ghouls and the Anarch Toreador who only feeds from willing supplicants and never kills. It's more Grey-and-Gray Morality with ample degrees of What Measure Is a Non-Human? and Utopia Justifies the Means. No one is unequivocally a good guy in the WoD. |
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Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog: The series features a deconstruction of the traditional superhero/supervillain relationship, wherein the protagonist is only evil because the society he lives in has determined that anyone who is too brainy and unpopular automatically becomes a villain. Doctor Horrible tries to do evil, but only manages to Poke the Poodle — at least until the Designated Hero, Captain Hammer, makes things too personal. He only wins because his death ray backfires. At the same time, though, some people have taken the opposite view. He's a Smug Super, sure, but Doctor Horrible is every bit as arrogant, if not moreso, and treated much more sympathetically. Hammer's only intentional dickish actions in the story are taken against a villain who wants to destroy the city - an incompetent villain, sure, but still. He also actually pays attention to what Penny wants, even if he doesn't care that much about it, and they seem to enjoy each other's company. Hell, he opens a homeless shelter for her, in comparison to Doctor Horrible, who actively dismisses the idea of trying something like that. As crude as he could be, he does very little to deserve the derision he's given. |
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Vlad von Carstein in Warhammer borders on being this due to how his back story was generally written during the game's lifespan. While his successors were definitely evil and Vlad was not a morally righteous person given the actions he's done to secure his land, his most consistently "evil" thing referenced is the time he tried to take over The Empire. Not only do other Elector Counts try to do this, but many points of lore indicate that if his enemies surrendered to him, Vlad would let them live, on top of being a decent ruler for Sylvania. Despite all that, he's generally treated by the setting as a bad guy, likely because he's a vampire, a necromancer, and because the Empire are the default "good guy" faction of the setting, which tends to mean anyone fighting them is a villain regardless of their motives. Warhammer: The End Times seemed to recognize that it was odd he was treated as a villain, and more or less made him an outright hero who fights the forces of Chaos when he isn't forced against his will to serve others. | |
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In The Kalevala, Louhi first appears on screen helping out a lost traveler, who turns out to be Väinämöinen. She sets the heroes standard mythological quests for her daughter's hand, and ends up marrying her to the one the daughter actually likes. When her eldest daughter dies, she quite reasonably refuses to marry her second daughter to Ilmarinen, which prompts the heroes try to steal the bride-price. She wakes up and chases them down to get her property back, and when that's unsuccessful, Louhi then continues to fight the war the heroes clearly started through other means. Why is she evil? Because she opposes the heroes. | |
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His first heel turn (at least since his tenure in the UWF territory) took place in late 1999 when he turned on Hulk Hogan by attacking Hogan with a baseball bat. Problem is that this was Hulk Hogan, the man who'd spent the last few years trying to kill WCW. In fact, the only real difference between face Sting and heel Sting was that he attacked wrestlers fans were supposed to like (such as past-their-rime veterans like Hogan and Ric Flair, who WCW fans were tired of seeing at that point) instead of wrestlers fans were supposed to hate and most fans refused to boo Sting for it. It was only a couple of months before Sting was a face again. | |
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The early Doctor Who audio drama "Doctor Who and the Pescatons" treats the Pescatons this way. The Pescaton leader is using Mind Control, but its goal is to use the Doctor's powers and time travel access to help him find a new home, as a fish-creature from a dying planet with seas evaporating as it follows its dwindling orbit around its sun. This is exactly the sort of reasonable desire that the Doctor would normally help aliens with, at least if they promised good behavior. However, due to extremely out-of-character writing, the Doctor repeatedly declares them the most evil race he has ever known, and he and Sarah commit genocide against them without showing any remorse. | |
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Asterix: On paper, Romans are the villains, The Empire that tries to defeat La Résistance. However, in some stories (and save for the cases of big bads or The Heavy such as Tortuous Convolvulus), Romans are not really trying to do even that, they are just doing their own business, with the Gauls simply getting in the middle of it. It helps that the majority of legionaries are nothing more than punchclock villains, poor conscripts suffering from the Empire's expansion, anyway. In Asterix and the Goths, the Romans are worried because the Goths have invaded Galia. Both Goths and Gauls pass the frontier and roam in the forest, and the Romans are completely incapable of doing anything about it. In Asterix at the Olympic Games, the Romans simply want to send a champion to the games and get the glory. When the Gauls find out about the games, they send their own champion, under the pretense that they are allowed to go as Romans because Gaul is part of the Roman World (despite the village obviously resisting the occupation). Asterix even give his reward to the Roman champion of a nearby camp as a Pet the Dog moment In Asterix and the Normans, they saw a fight in the beach between Gauls and Normans, and just tried to return to the fort and avoid any problem. The new "by the rules" legionary however was more zealously antagonistic and had them return there and try to stop the fight... with the expected results. In fact, the roles are reversed in Asterix and the Laurel Wreath, where Asterix and Obelix go to Rome and carry out a complex plan to steal Caesar's laurel wreath. The Romans did not do anything, and the Gauls wanted to steal from them. And not for an honorable reason: just for Vitalstatistix to give a Take That! to his brother-in-law. The death sentence on Asterix and Obelix does not count either: Asterix himself pled to be sent immediately to the Circus for punishment of their crime (dishonoring a slaver and a slave owner)... thinking that Caesar would be there, with his laurel wreath. Numerusclausus in Asterix and the Picts. The poor guy was just a civilian Roman trying to make a census of the village and the Gauls kept beating him up. They were no signs that the census would have been used for military purposes. That being said, they finally give him lenience at the end of the book, by suggesting the one surefire method to have a headcount: the traditional banquet. |
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Cyclops reenters this post-Secret Wars (2015) where we find out that, despite uniting the mutant populace and bringing a level of peace through his (rather unorthodox) actions, the time skip has somehow made him a monster on the level of Adolf Hitler (and yes, he was actually called that). For over a year, readers wanted to know just what exactly he did (especially since an early story seemed to paint the mutant Sunfire as just as bad), only for Death of X to reveal that Cyclops wasn't even alive when he acted! It was Emma Frost, who somehow convinced the world that he led a group of mutants to alter the Terrigen Mists so that they would be safe for all. And he was disintegrated by Black Bolt for his actions! Much of this owed to the fact that Marvel, being overzealous in protecting from leaks, hadn't told the writers what Cyclops did aside from it apparently being really, really bad. Writers naturally assumed it had to be something seriously awful, hence the comparisons to Hitler, when the actual bad thing turned out to be kind of neutral. | |
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His second major heel turn was in 2008 as leader of the Main Event Mafia. He wanted respect from the younger members of the TNA locker room, but was so noble in going about it (not to mention that the young guys really were disrespectful towards Sting) that fans took his side, and the much easier to hate Kurt Angle had to usurp control of the group. | |
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Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf: Wolffy. He's very devoted to his wife Wolnie and only tries to catch the goats so that they can have something to eat. | |
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Vuk the Little Fox: The hunter. He's not particularly evil - he just happens to be a farmer who kills foxes to protect his livestock. | |
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Invoked and parodied in Third Rate Gamer. If the Evil Rate Gamer didn't point out that he's evil at every opportunity we wouldn't know. This is a parody of "the Evil Irate Gamer", who kinda fell flat because the standard-issue Irate Gamer was already a bit of a Comedic Sociopath. | |
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The Epic of Gilgamesh: Gilgamesh and Enkidu's first adventure is setting out to kill the giant Humbaba. No indication is ever given that Humbaba is evil, or even in any way dangerous to others. Gilgamesh just wants to kill him because he knew it would make them both famous. This is treated as a completely valid reason for setting out to kill someone. | |
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Vampire: The Requiem: The Ventrue are the de facto Designated Villains, although that isn't fair, as all vampires are villainous despite their best efforts. The Daeva, who have the explicit weakness of inevitable moral decline, have far more reasons to actually be the Designated Villains, only the fluff of the manuals and supplements just don't write them that way. The Daeva are sympathetic, as being evil is not really their fault, they're just morally decadent. The Ventrue, however, are always portrayed, every last vampire jack of them, as conniving, cackling, sadistic, and evil sons of bitches who are evil because that's what the Ventrue are and do. As far as fluff goes, the Nosferatu and Gangrel tend to get Designated Hero slots, but if an NPC in a supplement is marked "Ventrue Invictus", you can guarantee that the character is going to be portrayed in a villainous light. Mekhet, however, are the Designated Morally Ambivalent. They might as well be Vulcans for all the White Wolf writing staff cares. |
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