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Determined Defeatist

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Determined Defeatist	comment	The Determined Defeatist is a character who genuinely believes Failure Is the Only Option for something they set out to do, yet presses on anyway. Sometimes, it's all too tempting for them to turn their back on their dreams, or let themselves plummet over the Despair Event Horizon. Don't think they actually will though. If they ever do give up, you can bet it won't be for long. Often they feel their situation's so hopeless, they've got nothing to lose. After all, if there is nothing in the world but darkness, then all that matters is What You Are in the Dark. And if they're going to die trying, then they may as well get in a Dying Moment of Awesome while they do it. Super-Trope of Sour Supporter, when the defeatist is recruited to The Team by The Hero (and is usually a secondary character.) Could be considered a Sister Trope to Knight in Sour Armor. The difference between the Knight in Sour Armor and this trope is that the latter isn't necessarily a snarky Anti-Hero who lives in a Crapsack World; they're more likely to be The Eeyore or The Woobie. They might lack self-esteem, or be going through a rough patch. But in both cases, you can be sure their dogged perseverance will get them through despite their pessimistic outlook. Neither "Shaggy Dog" Story nor Shoot the Shaggy Dog bothers them because they were expecting it. A fair number of them, if they discover that defeat is not the only option, will also discover that Hope Is Scary. Also compare Cowardly Lion and The Anti-Nihilist. May overlap with Iron Woobie, as they keep going no matter how many times they get hurt or discouraged. If they refuse to let an innocent die even when there's a low chance of success, they are almost certainly a Small Steps Hero. When it's time to motivate the troops, the best they can come up with might be "Try Not to Die". If they do die, may overlap with Doomed Moral Victor. Contrast Doomed Defeatist, who gives up all hope and does not survive in this kind of situation.
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Determined Defeatist / int_111d19bd	comment	Just about everyone in The Overstory, but especially Patricia Westerford, who becomes convinced that humanity won't be able to save the trees, but devotes herself to trying anyways. Despite her No Social Skills tendencies, she deeply admires humanity because of this trope.
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Determined Defeatist / int_117bdb6b	comment	All-Might praises Momo for this attitude in The Emerald Phoenix, declaring that like all heroes, she faced a situation where she seemingly had no hope of winning but pressed on anyway. While she lost, Momo still came within a hairsbreadth of victory.
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Determined Defeatist / int_1331990c	comment	In Puella Magi Madoka Magica, Akemi Homura seems to be this. She knows that whenever she resets time to prevent Madoka's death, it always results in things getting worse; Madoka either dies again or becomes an increasingly powerful witch. Kyubey even points out that all she's doing is making Madoka into a stronger witch. Yet despite everything, she never stops trying. She also knows there's no hope for Sayaka, who is fated to die in every timeline where she makes a contract, but she still saves her life (for the moment) by retrieving her Soul Gem after it's thrown onto a truck.
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Determined Defeatist / int_1367cea0	comment	Worm: Cauldron fully expect to fail in their mission to save humanity from Scion. They just don't want to stand there at the end wondering if they could have done something to stop it.
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Determined Defeatist / int_17fa5f0a	comment	Aberforth Dumbledore in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is convinced that Voldemort is going to win and advises the heroes to give up and flee the country. Naturally, he still shows up to fight when push comes to shove.
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Determined Defeatist / int_19e5369	comment	Near the end of StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm, Kerrigan outright states that it's functionally impossible to stop Amon. She'll try anyway because "the only other option is to lay down and die".
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Determined Defeatist / int_1bc2e9a1	comment	Brit from New Reality can't see herself past the Tower of Salvation event but thinks nothing worse can happen, except death. It eventually backfires when she realizes she actually doesn't want to die, so much, that she practically pukes her guts out and make the group worries about her on the last night before said event.
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Determined Defeatist / int_1cc09117	comment	Bleach: Ulquiorra spends the latter part of his fight with Ichigo attempting to show him how outclassed he is and how hopeless it is to continue fighting a battle he has absolutely no chance of winning. But Ichigo doesn't care; he decides to keep fighting even if he can't win. This makes Ulquiorra briefly lose his temper, to the point that he decides to force Ichigo to give up by killing him. With mixed results...
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Determined Defeatist / int_1f76648	comment	Touma from A Certain Magical Index has terminally bad luck and a negative outlook, but will fight until the end for anyone he cares about (which might be someone he befriended minutes ago).
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Determined Defeatist / int_2212773a	comment	Angel: Though there is the occasional reprieve, at heart, Angel suspects that he will never stop paying for his crimes. He and Spike share a grumpy exchange about how they're both going to Hell, and thus will never be rid of each other.
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Determined Defeatist / int_221b0033	comment	In All That Glitters (Othellia), Anna puts a lot of effort into a plan which banks on Hans saving her life after she willingly ingests poison. Yet it's implied she doesn't actually expect this to work, blurting during an argument: "At least when I poison myself, I'll finally be taking myself out of a world with you in it!"
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Determined Defeatist / int_23b84765	comment	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King King ThÃ©oden has this attitude towards the battle in defending Gondor. Essentially, the armies of Rohan going to ride out to meet their deaths against the armies of orcs, and ThÃ©oden is well aware that it's basically hopeless. But even so, Rohan is going to ride out anyway, because the only other option is to just lie down and die while Sauron conquers the world, and ThÃ©oden is having none of that. Gimli feels this way about the Final Battle. In Gimli's mind, the Fellowship is about to charge into an utterly hopeless battle against Sauron's forces, in which they're not only guaranteed to die but that their chance of managing to distract the armies of Sauron long enough for Frodo to throw the One Ring into Mount Doom's fires and destroy it forever, thereby ending the War of the Ring is minimal anyway. Gimli then declares his intention to press onward and rides off to battle with everyone else.
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Determined Defeatist / int_24ac73b7	comment	35MM: A Musical Exhibition: The narrator of "Cut You a Piece" has this attitude towards love. He tells the story of a couple he once knew, who were deeply in love and very Happily Married... only to have it all cut tragically short by the wife's sudden death only six months into the marriage, leading to her husband falling apart and never really recovering. The narrator is now terrified of the fact that he's in love, because he sees a similar loss as inevitable. The song ends with him concluding that it is inevitable, but that love is worth it anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_2f9517bf	comment	Miranda Lotto from D.Gray-Man. Gloomy and insecure as she is, she always puts 100% and then some into trying to be helpful.
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Determined Defeatist / int_347ec243	comment	Monster Rancher: Suezo shows this attitude in "Furred Suezo's M-1 Grand Prix Hero", trying to teach Furred Suezo the importance of standing up for himself even when he's convinced that he'll lose. This drives him to face off against Zilla in the tiebreaker match despite already being injured, eventually gaining a Heroic Second Wind after hearing the younger monster calling for him to keep fighting.
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Determined Defeatist / int_35e05f2a	comment	RWBY has Professor Ozpin/Ozma. Despite knowing for centuries (possibly millennia) that the Big Bad Salem has Complete Immortality and having been specifically told that he is unable to destroy her, he has continued struggling to prevent her from taking over and then destroying the world.
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Determined Defeatist / int_38fa34eb	comment	Wonder Woman: Steve Trevor's never been one to back down or give up, but he's been finding himself in situations and given order he doesn't think he can survive since the 1940s. Luckily, he underestimates his own skill frequently and his girlfriend/wife/best friend is Wonder Woman and she's pretty good at rescuing him when he needs it.
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Determined Defeatist / int_3aa95d7a	comment	In Hakuouki, Hijikata is fully aware that the balance of power is shifting away from the shogunate and that the Shinsengumi are on the losing end of things, even before the Boshin War has officially kicked off. Nevertheless, he gives it every possible effort, sticking with the fighting from Kyoto all the way to Hokkaido and the war's bitter end even when all of his comrades have died or gone their separate ways.
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Determined Defeatist / int_3b91d912	comment	Shinji in Evangelion 303. When Asuka ran away, Shinji thought that he'd never find her; or he'd find her but she wouldn't listen to him. Nonetheless, he looked for her, he found her, and he talked her into getting back together.
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Determined Defeatist / int_3efc191f	comment	In Neon Genesis Evangelion: Genocide, Shinji doesn't really believe that he is capable of helping Asuka, but he decides that he'll try to look after her anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_40852654	comment	In Medaka Box, this is the defining trait of Kumagawa Misogi, the leader of the anti-elites in Class -13. A genius at losing who has never legitimately won at anything his entire life, he can't even imagine his own victory and sees himself as the weakest human being on earth. Every gamble he takes, he assumes it will end with his loss. He has so little faith in being able to properly win, he can have a god-like Skill like "All Fiction" which can make any part of reality become nothing, and still always find some way to lose. But if you expect this Minus to just give up fighting for good, you'd be sorely mistaken; even before he ever got "All Fiction" and with it the ability to negate his own death, he was still always the sort of terrifying person who'd get right back up after being soundly defeated, continuing to try and win even if he knows for a "fact" that he will perpetually lose. When he finally admits his own true feelings, he reveals that the source of his drive is to prove himself better than the "main characters" even if he's friendless, unmotivated, and underachieving; ironically, this very drive often makes him the opposite of those traits, making him an inspiration for those in despair whether he's an antagonist or an unlikely supporting protagonist.
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Determined Defeatist / int_44fe781e	comment	Neon Genesis Evangelion: Despite having abysmal self-confidence and a lot of issues, especially with his dad, Shinji Ikari is surprisingly determined to do what he has to do (yet, also like his dad), though he (along with virtually every other character) begins breaking in the end as everything goes to hell.
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Determined Defeatist / int_4617a9f2	comment	Married... with Children: Al Bundy. Best exemplified by his "No More Holding Back" Speech.
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Determined Defeatist / int_468bebb0	comment	Rincewind in the later Discworld novels, in particular, just wants to head home and be safe. And yet, because he's among the worst wizards on the Disc and a complete coward, he constantly finds himself as the Butt-Monkey, facing threats way beyond his level of power to face, including shadow monsters, dragons, and a planetary-scale Reality Warper while armed with nothing but a brick in a sock. And yet, Rincewind keeps going anyway no matter what he finds himself stuck with, if only because he manages to consistently show his courage with his back to the wall. Or at the very least, he's confident in his ability to somehow pull a solution out of thin air and escape to safety, because he's Genre Savvy enough to know how his life works.
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Determined Defeatist / int_49ad83ee	comment	World of Warcraft: Prince Renathal of Revendreth, one of the Warcraft universe's afterlives, leads his people to war in order to save the universe. The war in question is against the Jailer, who commands an army of souls that only grows bigger with every person in the universe who dies. Renathal knows full-well that they can't possibly win this war in numbers, power, or tactics, but he's not going to let the world go down without a fight.
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Determined Defeatist / int_4f88f22b	comment	In Those That Wake, Mike is this. He thinks the world sucks, he's worthless, and he probably can't do anything to change it, but he'll fight anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_503d5009	comment	Ayakashi Triangle: Reo is in love with her partner Matsuri, but knows him well enough to see his attraction to Suzu. But despite viewing herself as a Hopeless Suitor, Reo is happy to do her best to earn Matsuri's trust and admiration.
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Determined Defeatist / int_55145659	comment	In So I'm a Spider, So What? Gyurie goes into his fight with Shiraori already certain he will die in the end. Despite this, he fights to the bitter end so that others will have a chance of changing the world's path.
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Determined Defeatist / int_55c5a085	comment	Mazinger Z: Kouji kept fighting even when he thought -or knew- that he couldn't win. He fought Jinrai S1 despite having almost no chances to defeat a flying, ultra-fast Robeast that used hit-and-run tactics. And he deployed Mazinger-Z to fight a squad of Mykene War Beasts even knowing that he'd not win that battle. When Kouji was wounded and in hospital bed, Boss was more than willing to throw Boss Borot into the fray against the very mechanical beast that had almost destroyed Mazinger. His It Has Been an Honor farewell to Kouji showed his mindset was exactly this trope.
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Determined Defeatist / int_58808436	comment	Rika in Higurashi: When They Cry has been trying for a long, long time, but she's been killed so many times that she's become a cynical fatalist. She keeps trying though, and eventually gets it right.
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Determined Defeatist / int_5afbc0cb	comment	Undertale: Sans is a Fourth-Wall Observer, allowing him to understand that the Player Character is being driven by an entity on a completely different level (the player), which he refers to simply as "the Anomaly". Sans is fully aware that thanks to the power of Determination, the Anomaly has total control of the timeline, resetting, restarting, and destroying timelines at will (through the Save/Reset/Erase game functions), which renders him a little hopeless with the knowledge that everyone's life is ultimately just a plaything for an entity on a level of existence he cannot even conceive. However, when you, the Anomaly, finally go too far and initiate a No Mercy run, Sans will still actively stand up against you to prevent The End of the World as We Know It. Sans knows that no matter how many times he kills your Player Character, he ultimately cannot directly do anything against you — but maybe, just maybe, if he tries hard enough, he might make you Rage Quit.
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Determined Defeatist / int_60878253	comment	In The Last Days of FOXHOUND, Vulcan Raven doesn't believe Liquid can succeed, but resolves to fight Solid Snake anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_61a39969	comment	In Avengers: Infinity War, Loki swears fealty to Thanos whom he failed and left years ago and tried to lure into a trap moments ago, gets close and then attacks the towering purple giant who has two Infinity Stones with an ordinary dagger. He is frightened and fully aware that his chances are next to none. But he does it anyway because he has no other trick up his leave (especially after Thanos easily beat The Hulk to unconsciousness) and no other way to potentially save his brother. Thanos doesn't fall for his pretend devotion, easily thwarts his attack and kills him.
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Determined Defeatist / int_65af8e08	comment	Rei in Thousand Shinji. One of the core tenets of her Nurglette faith is: "Death is inevitable, but you must resist it and endure as long as possible anyway".
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Determined Defeatist / int_6a4c8f1b	comment	Mumen Rider of One-Punch Man is little more than a bike cop who rides around doing minor good deeds and trying to stop petty criminals, like purse-snatchers and such. Still, he chose to go up against the Sea King, a Demon-level threat who had already completely demolished several A-rank heroes and a couple of S-rankers. He's fully aware of his weakness and acknowledges it, but is determined to fight to the last anyway even though he knows he won't even slow the beast down (and yet his actions do distract Deep Sea King long enough for Saitama to arrive.) Best exemplified by his speech in the anime version:
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Determined Defeatist / int_6cc7497b	comment	In the final battle of Castlevania (2017), Trevor admits that he's "probably not" going to be able to stop the Big Bad, but he's going to "give this one last go" and fight anyways. Were it not for the timely intervention of Saint-Germaine, Trevor would have died by killing Death with an enchanted dagger, with the backlash also killing Trevor. Still, the fact Trevor was going to die didn't even slow him down.
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Determined Defeatist / int_6fa2c383	comment	Max goes through the entirety of Max Payne knowing perfectly well that there are only two outcomes for him: either being killed during his Roaring Rampage of Revenge or being put away for life upon completing it. In fact, after he goes free thanks to The Man pulling a few strings, he considers himself to be a Karma Houdini.
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Determined Defeatist / int_7668653b	comment	Mass Effect 3: Javik believes that Shepard's cycle is doomed for failure. However, giving up is not an option for him, especially after his race and civilization sacrificed themselves just to get him to this point. Also Commander Shepard, by the end of the series. Case in point is his/her reaction when the Reapers first invade and s/he's asked how to stop them. Even Liara seems to adopt this philosophy over time. She even discusses the fact that as an asari, she could actually survive to see the cycle complete itself.
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Determined Defeatist / int_7670db44	comment	Ghosts of Evangelion: Shinji doesn't believe he can be a decent father, but he promised Asuka he'd make his best.
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Determined Defeatist / int_79d7d5bd	comment	A Boy, a Girl and a Dog: The Leithian Script: Neither Beren nor Luthien believed that retrieving a Silmaril from Morgoth was possible. They were sure that they'd die trying it. Beren displayed this mindset when they met gigantic wolf Carcharoth:
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Determined Defeatist / int_7c038c18	comment	Phineas and Ferb: Doofenshmirtz is well aware that Perry is a Comically Invincible Hero and therefore that Failure Is the Only Option for his attempts to take over the entire Tri-State Area, but he still keeps attempting it anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_7e46c975	comment	You're the Worst: Jimmy and Gretchen's relationship is repeatedly marked as doomed, mainly by the two in it, and yet they keep coming back.
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Determined Defeatist / int_7fc78282	comment	Most of the main characters (especially Frodo) in the later parts of The Lord of the Rings. Several people get speeches to the effect of admitting that they're pretty much finished, but they're going to carry on because there's nothing else to be done. It plays into the book's overall theme that even the smallest of efforts can make a difference and that it's "simple acts of kindness and love that keep the darkness at bay".
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Determined Defeatist / int_81a005a3	comment	In Puss in Boots: The Last Wish, following his Character Development, Puss is all too aware that he can never defeat the Wolf that hunts him, but decides to die fighting anyway. Seeing that he has finally learned to appreciate the value of his own life and internalized his own mortality, The Wolf — or rather, Death — begrudgingly lets Puss go.
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Determined Defeatist / int_880cfa15	comment	Hogan's Heroes: General Burkhalter doggedly executes projects meant to help the German war effort, but there are moments that imply he isn't doing so with much optimism. In one episode, he says that a new weapon will change the scope of the war, then adds "We might even win."
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Determined Defeatist / int_8d8157e0	comment	In Lexx, a number of the Brunnen-G decide to stand and fight against His Divine Shadow, fully aware that they have no chance of success. An in-show musical touches on this a bit more, and even inspires the protagonists to take on a similar attitude.
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Determined Defeatist / int_8fa77cb6	comment	Doing It Right This Time: About the only thing motivating Shinji to keep trying to make things better this time around is the certain knowledge that there's a strictly limited number of ways he could do worse this time. In fact, he's rather resistant to any attempts to make him feel better on the grounds that Hope Is Scary.
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Determined Defeatist / int_90304058	comment	Albert McPhee, a skeptic who fights for the good guys (Christians) in That Hideous Strength.
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Determined Defeatist / int_93df96	comment	To Kill a Mockingbird: Atticus Finch knows full well that the racist jury will never acquit Tom Robinson, a black man, even if all evidence points to his innocence. He gives his all in defending him anyway because no one else will, and it's the right thing to do.
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Determined Defeatist / int_99c003af	comment	Ed Wuncler I from The Boondocks, during the kickball game to determine the fate of Woodcrest in "The Red Ball":
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Determined Defeatist / int_9e876c22	comment	Crowley in Good Omens. At one point, when Aziraphale has gone missing, the Apocalypse is beginning, and it looks as if there's no hope, Crowley thinks he might as well drink himself into a stupor while he waits for the world to end. Instead, he drives at top speed to Tadfield to avert the Apocalypse, holding his burning car together through sheer force of will.
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Determined Defeatist / int_a15ee289	comment	Last Child of Krypton: When Shinji rallies his friends to move in on NERV, Kaji firmly believes that operation is doomed to failure. He joins them anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_a2f77c77	comment	Jim Cornette was a Sour Supporter in Global Force Wrestling, both the original incarnation and the Anthem-owned version, publicly stating Jeff Jarrett was crazy for starting another pro wrestling promotion but that he was going to pull for it anyway. In fact, this has been Cornette's attitude ever since SMW failed to get a television deal, believing there simply weren't enough people in the know to save pro wrestling, which was destined to fall to the level roller derby had, and that he himself wasn't the kind of booker who would be necessary to turn it around. Nonetheless, he won't give up the fight, which is what lead him to TNA and Ring of Honor in the first place, as well as publicly endorsing Lucha Libre USA, saying it was much better than WCW but wouldn't be as successful due to a lack of network penetration.
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Determined Defeatist / int_a481d45e	comment	Usually he's anything but this trope, but in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor, the titular character experiences a severe And I Must Scream, after which he is deeply shaken and nihilistic. It comes up several times that he no longer sees the point; even if his side wins the book's conflict, ultimately it won't even matter. And yet he keeps going and continues to be compassionate because someone has to.
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Determined Defeatist / int_a4e17d04	comment	"Survive" by Lacuna Coil:
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Determined Defeatist / int_a73a2606	comment	Children of an Elder God: When Gendo tells his son that he is to pilot Unit-01, Shinji thinks that he can't do it... but he decides to try anyway.
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Determined Defeatist / int_aabf6d1d	comment	The Ancestor in Darkest Dungeon flip-flops on how much faith he has in you depending on how well you do during a battle, but he has a small hopeful streak as he assures you that despite the hardships, the monsters can be felled.
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Determined Defeatist / int_ad6b641b	comment	One of the lines of the eponymous devil from The Screwtape Letters:
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Determined Defeatist / int_af6562ac	comment	Himei from Sailor Nothing. She's an utterly Broken Bird who knows that As Long as There Is Evil, there'll be Yamiko. This doesn't stop her from fighting as many of them as she can.
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Determined Defeatist / int_b3ee0212	comment	Star Wars: Purge: The only time Ma'kis'shaalas speaks, he has this to say of a proposal to kill the Emperor and Darth Vader.
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Determined Defeatist / int_b4501394	comment	Nick in Left 4 Dead 2 constantly complains how screwed everyone is or going on about how he was right when he thought things could get worse. Regardless of his grim outlook on his fate, he presses on regardless and he slowly sheds his cynical outlook while retaining his determination to survive and kick some zombie ass with the rest of his fellow survivors.
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Determined Defeatist / int_b9b796cf	comment	Fate/stay night: Shirou knows that he doesn't stand a chance in battle against really any of the servants or masters in the war (except Shinji), yet he still fights them with Incompletely Trained trace magic. Rin points out how unhealthy his obsession with saving others is. Finally, his fight against Archer in Unlimited Blade Works is a back and forth of Silly Rabbit, Idealism Is for Kids! and Silly Rabbit, Cynicism Is for Losers!; Archer doesn't just believe that Shirou's future will be bleak, he knows it as an absolute fact because it is his past.
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Determined Defeatist / int_ba91ae7a	comment	Rocky has the title character realizing that he will fail the fight against Apollo, but decides that he will go the distance so he would not be seen as a bum. Also helps that he's just a flat-out Determinator.
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Determined Defeatist / int_bb0be145	comment	In Peter Pays Tribute, Peter is convinced that he will never finish the tasks his god demands of him, but he refuses to flee. This is partly out of cowardice, but partly out of a sense of duty, even if his task is impossible.
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Determined Defeatist / int_bb7d6a95	comment	Duckman is very well aware of how cruel the world is, yet he still believes in a better future for his kids no matter how many times the world kicks him between the legs.
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Determined Defeatist / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000: The Craftworld Eldar take this to the point where it's their racial hat, that and being Magnificent Bastards. Their species is staring extinction right in the face, and yet they continue to fight tooth and nail in a galaxy where they are hopelessly outnumbered by dogmatic and xenophobic humans, murderously psychotic Orks and planet-eating Tyranids, while also being hunted relentlessly by a God of Evil who is out for their souls. Speaking of humans. Beset on all sides by xenos and galactic horrors while also being attacked from within by traitors and heretics, their God-Emperor is tied to a millennia-old life support machine that is in serious need of a good fix, all the technology and grandeur of the by-gone golden age is slowly being forgotten to be replaced by superstition, Fantastic Racism and blind zeal, the Imperium of Man loses worlds every day despite its overwhelming might. Yet we Puny Earthlings don't cry or despair, we stoically take these losses and try to hold the line as best we can, or failing that, drag our enemies down with us. For the Emperor!
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Determined Defeatist / int_bddd8c0b	comment	The second season of Ultra Galaxy Mega Monster Battle has Alien Metron, one of the many Reionyxes, who repeatedly challenges the hero Rei in a kaiju battle, despite Metron and his monsters getting their asses shoved back to them by Rei's monster, Gomora, each battle. It culminates in Rei finally ordering Gomora to kill Metron's last monster, Vakishim — and because of Synchronization, Vakishims' defeat leads to Metron's elimination too.
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Determined Defeatist / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who: The Twelfth Doctor has this attitude in his more pessimistic moments.
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Determined Defeatist / int_c4771251	comment	Mistborn: The Original Trilogy: In The Hero of Ages, Elend gives a speech to his men, asking them to fight even though they will die if they do. He says that every second they're able to keep going is a second longer the people they're protecting will stay alive. Of course, it turns out that they only survive as long as they do because they're all burning atium, and because Atium is actually Ruin's body, their deaths mean that Ruin can't get his full power, making it possible for the Hero of Ages to win.
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Determined Defeatist / int_c8353ba1	comment	Fujimaru from Snow White and Seven Dwarfs, due to being a male Broken Bird who sincerely believes that the heroes can't win — but has too much of a conscience to just let them die when he can help.
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Determined Defeatist / int_caf902ee	comment	This is how Adam Taurus is in The Games We Play (The Gamer/RWBY). He considers even having made it to 10 to be a miracle and believes every moment past that has been him living on borrowed time. That doesn't mean he's about to lay down and let his enemies have their way with him.
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Determined Defeatist / int_d11cd383	comment	Ryotaro Nogami, the protagonist of Kamen Rider Den-O, willingly admits that he's not very strong or smart and that he has insanely bad luck. That doesn't stop him from doing his job and protecting the timestream, which results in his eventually Taking a Level in Badass.
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Determined Defeatist / int_d5e9cf36	comment	Soldiers with the Hard Luck personality in XCOM 2. It's clear they don't really believe they can liberate the Vichy Earth. They still fight as hard as any other soldier.
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Determined Defeatist / int_d8811eb6	comment	Captain SNES: The Game Masta shows Kevin Keene having this attitude when the Sovereign Of Sorrow is on her way to the Palace Of Power, knowing the only way to win is for his daughter to make a Heroic Sacrifice, because he also knows the eyes of the world are on this event, that they'll say of that day, "that's when everything changed," and that he has to be The Hero even when nobody would blame him if he just sat down and let Hope offer her life to secure victory.
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Determined Defeatist / int_d908efc	comment	In Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba, the internal conflict that Zenitsu has developed once he found the first person, his master Jigoro, that ever believed he could amount to something as a person, namely a competent demon slayer; in one hand Zenitsu is a extremely self-deprecating person due years of failing to form any meaningful friendship and relationships, growing up being loathed by anyone he ever met as they were put off by his forefront cowardness and whining; in the other hand Zenitsu has finally met his master, who he grew to love as the family he never had, and then Tanjiro who further showed sincere belief Zenitsu can be better, looking up past his flaws. That resulted in Zenitsu being the kind of demon slayer who is always screaming about how is he is going to die at every mission, but at the same time he simply cannot give into his fears and run away, Zenitsu will push forward and fulfill his role no matter what, his eternal gratitude to the ones who believe in him will not let their hopes be in vain, even if Zenitsu has trouble believing in himself.
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Determined Defeatist / int_e05a2543	comment	In Hajime no Ippo, in the second match between Ippo and Sendou, Sendou is hit by a full Dempsey Roll by Ippo, seemingly ending the match. But he gets on his feet again. He already knows he has lost, and he still refuses to drop to the ground or go unconscious, just so he can watch the face of the man who defeated him.
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Determined Defeatist / int_e293455a	comment	Spike in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "The Gift".
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Determined Defeatist / int_e9c7b01b	comment	In the Dissidia Final Fantasy series, this is the position the Warrior of Light from Final Fantasy ultimately takes in regard to the cycle of conflict between Cosmos and Chaos. It may be a Forever War, it may be a Hopeless War, it may be ruled and controlled by forces way beyond his understanding, and it may be all but impossible for him to affect its outcome. But that doesn't mean he'll ever stop fighting or trying to break the cycle to send everyone home anyways. This puts the Warrior of Light in stark contrast to Garland, who has given up on escaping and decided that he's going to just revel into the cycles of endless battle as a Blood Knight, since battle is all that they have left.
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Determined Defeatist / int_ed0795d4	comment	In The Silver Chair, Puddleglum tells the Witch that while she may well be right that Narnia's just a dream, that will not stop him from doing his best to be a good Narnian.
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Determined Defeatist / int_eed89257	comment	ULTRAKILL: As his terminal entry indicates, King Sisyphus knew all along that he and his army would never stand a chance against the armies of Heaven even if by some miracle they managed to escape Hell. He still elected to give it his all, because in his mind refusing to give up was its own victory.
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Determined Defeatist / int_f5855286	comment	The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom: The Sage of Light Rauru is saddened to hear that Zelda having been transported back into time and meeting him is proof that his fight against Ganondorf is doomed to fail. Nonetheless, he doesn't cower and keeps his head high, continuing to do his best to keep the people of Hyrule safe to the best of his abilities.
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Determined Defeatist / int_f9cb2c07	comment	In The Second Try, Shinji and Asuka sometimes lose hope and think that they have no chance to change the future. Nonetheless, they keep trying.
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Determined Defeatist / int_fa89a1ac	comment	In Frozen II, Princess Anna has been cast away by her sister Elsa so she cannot follow Elsa to a mystical island. Shortly after this, Olaf, who is kept alive only by Elsa's magic, disintegrates to snow and thus signifies Elsa's death as Elsa sends one final ice sculpture message to Anna revealing who the true villain of the movie is, and Anna recognizes what she must do now in her sister's stead. That said, the normally optimistic Anna is drowning in despair as she sings "The Next Right Thing":
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