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This page is a list of similar works (similar genres, similar media categories, similar plots, etc.) made by different creators during the same period of time. Sometimes one work intentionally copied another. Sometimes it's part of a wider trend in which that type of work became very popular all of sudden and others are made. Sometimes it's total coincidence: the creators just had the same idea. Which is the original and which is the imitation is not always completely clear; sometimes, however, it is painfully so. Sometimes, rather than home-brew a knock off, a company will license a foreign work, and adapt it to be more like its competitor. Occasionally, creators will be forced to war with one another when they simultaneously produce similar works which are subsequently released within a short time from each other. To qualify as a duel the two works must meet the following criteria: Within the same media category. A TV show cannot be in a duel with a video game or a book, for example. Within the same genre (or in a closely related genre). Must have different creators. Released within one year of each other. The sole exception to this are works that are Long-Runners, in which case the two works must have overlapping runs. A series running from 1999-2009 cannot be in a duel with a series made before or after its run, but it could be in a duel with a series that ran from 2004-2006 if the first two criteria are met. One thing to remember regarding Dueling Works is that Tropes Are Not Bad — while many Dueling Works appear to be blatant rip-offs, the competition between two shows (or simply the desire to set each other apart) often spurs each other to develop in quality. The result is a grateful television audience. See also The Mockbuster. Not to be confused with Dueling-Stars Movie. Again, just to be clear: The works have to be produced during the same time period (within one year of each other or with overlapping runs in the case of series), otherwise you've got either Follow the Leader or Serial Numbers Filed Off. Also see Fandom Rivalry. |
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Wonder Woman #161 presents an In-Universe example with two rival films based on the "Curse of Cleopatra" in production at the same time which Countess Draska Nishki tries using to disguise her involvement in the murders of a few cast members. | |
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Circles (2001-2015) / Heathen City (2008) Capsule Pitch Description: Two mid-2000's gay furry comics, both premeering significantly at cons and in direct competion (see below). Implementation: Circles deals with mature themes but ultimately is relatively optimistic and light-hearted, with no pornography and a strict emphasis on character development. Heathen City is essentially a pornographic Film Noir in comic form, with violence, cynicism and sex gallore. In spite of these extremely different angles, the premiere of the latter severely disrupted the former's line-up: previously going strong, Circles plummeted in sales in 2008 upon Heathen City's release, effectively killing it as a comic. Ultimately, Circles would continue as a semi-illustrated novel, concluding several years later in 2015; the authors also expressed interest in a reboot of sorts. Heathen City and its three issues lasted a solitary year before cancellation; perhaps fittingly, it lived and died young. Neither work is particularly well known even in the modern furry landscape, but Circles is fondly remembered. |
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DC's Doom Patrol and Marvel's X-Men. Both teams consisted of super-powered individuals shunned by the world, were led by a man in a wheelchair, and premiered within months of each other in 1963. The X-Men would rise to prominence and become one of the biggest franchises in comics, while the Doom Patrol would struggle to maintain a series. However, the two series diverged: while the X-Men focused on traditional superheroics with a lot of focus on the soap opera side of stories, the Doom Patrol, under Grant Morrison, eventually became a much more strange and experimental title focusing on more mature and artsy themes. While the X-Men do dip into some weirder stuff — particularly when Morrison himself revamped the franchise — along with all manner of magic and sci-fi, the Doom Patrol have largely stuck to the more "out there" tone. The two are very rarely compared these days. | |
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2020 saw the release of three books that were revivals of young adult series that were popular in the late 2000's-early 2010's: Midnight Sun (2020) (a Perspective Flip of the first Twilight book), The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (a prequel to The Hunger Games focusing on President Snow), and Hawk (a Spin-Offspring sequel to the Maximum Ride series). | |
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DC's Justice League of America and Marvel's The Avengers, both teams consisting of the biggest superheroes from each company. | |
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Change of Plans is another Cody/Courtney fic, and was published around the same time that Candy expanded from a one-shot to a full season rewrite. The authors recommend each other's work. | |
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The SpongeBob Musical and Escape From Margaritaville could be considered this, as both are tropical-themed musicals based on well-know pop culture icons that deal with the main characters facing a disaster and trying to stop it. While SpongeBob has received glowing praise, the reviews for Margaritaville have been negative. To make matters worse, there had been reports of the audience at the latter show acting very rude (doing thing like acting drunk and singing along to the songs). However, neither of them were big successes at the box office, with both shows closing the same year. However, the soundtrack for the former became a Billboard Kids' Audio hit, even after the show closed. | |
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Buck Rogers (first published in 1928) and Flash Gordon (first published in 1934) were both adventure stories about a brave young man in a science fiction setting. The two works together helped codify the Raygun Gothic aesthetic. | |
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Whenever an artist releases multiple albums on the same day, there can be a competition to see which one will sell the most copies (examples: Guns N' Roses' Use Your Illusion I and II, Bruce Springsteen's Human Touch and Lucky Town, and the solo albums of all four KISS members). | |
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DC's Who's Who and Marvel's Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe have competed with each other a number of times. During the original run of Who's Who in the mid-1980s, Marvel released the second volume of OHOTMU (also known as the Deluxe Edition). After releasing updates for Who's Who in 1987 and 1988, OHOTMU received an update in 1989 (that same year, DC included Who's Who entries in a number of their annuals). When DC revamped Who's Who in 1990 as a customizable loose-leaf edition, OHOTMU followed suit with their loose-leaf Master Edition before the end of the year. | |
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This was succeeded by DC's (formerly Fawcett's) Captain Marvel and Marvel's Captain Marvel, as the latter laid claim to the name after Fawcett ended its run but before DC picked up the original character. DC's resultant inability to name its comic after its lead character ultimately led to a trope. | |
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It may seem strange, but for a while in the eighties, Green Lantern and Iron Man were seen as this, even internally. In the planning phases for Crisis on Infinite Earths, DC even considered revamping or replacing Hal Jordan to avoid comparisons to Iron Man, so it was a prevalent enough sentiment to influence the company's decisions at the time. The revamp would eventually take place with Emerald Twilight, but it seems the rivalry wasn't forgotten, since the two were merged into the Amalgam hero, Iron Lantern. | |
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Challenge Of The Go Bots / Transformers Capsule Pitch Description: Rebranded western exports of Japanese transforming robots toylines. Both lines had a syndicated cartoon airing at the same time. Implementation: Most Gobots were sized at 2/3 inches, with a small subset of larger "Super Gobots", while the Transformers scale was essentially the reverse. |
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Echo (2015-2021) / Repeat (2015-present) Capsule Pitch Description: Two 2015 furry horror visual novels focused on the themes of recursion with a supernatural influence and drowning. Implementation: Both visual novels started more or less contemporarily in 2015, with Echo eventually reaching its full conclusion in 2021 while Repeat entered a hiatus in 2020 (though the author's patreon contains a version with updated artwork released in June 2022, and has expressed interest in releasing new story content in the near future). Echo, originally intended as a spin-off of Black Gate, underwent a few tonal revisions and different writers in development, resulting in among other things a complete divorce from outright pornography and an emphasis on tragedy. Repeat is more Animesque and still contains sex scenes, but similarly focuses on drama and identical topics of recursion and loss. |
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Implementation: D&D 4E was a dramatic rework of Dungeons & Dragons, often described by players as an attempt to have MMORPG-like combat gameplay on the tabletop. Pathfinder 1E, created by the former publisher of Dragon magazine after 4E's debut, is a rules update of D&D 3.5E, sometimes jokingly described as "D&D 3.75E". | |
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In Your Wildest Dreams and Dream Weaver are both RWBY AU stories that feature Jaune developing a semblance that allows him to go into other people’s dreams, diverging from canon sometime during Volume 1, and had their first chapters posted around the same time. The author of the latter claims they had their take on the concept on the backburner for a year while he worked on other stories, only for the former's author posting their version prompting him to prioritize writing his. | |
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In the 1960s and even today, Dune series and The Foundation Trilogy, have been compared and contrasted many times due to their similar focus on space civilizations. Both were released during the "New Wave" science fiction craze where there was more focus on stories and characters rather than just being about science. That rivalry was later revived in 2020 after live-action adaptations of the two were revealed. | |
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LEGO / Mega Bloks, Tyco, Brix Blox and Coko, among many others Capsule Pitch Description: Construction building toys using interlocking "studs and tubes" blocks Implementation: Lego began marketing interlocking bricks as a construction toy as early as 1947, with the modern-style "stud and tube" brick sold in 1958; sales began in North America in the early 1960s, handled initially through Samsonite, but later began marketing on its own. Rival companies, most notably Mega Bloks, introduced their own construction-type toys as early as the late 1960s, typically selling their sets at a lower cost; Mega Bloks was acquired by Mattel in 2014. Many of the rival brands are sold in discount stores and stores such as CVS, Walgreen's, and Shoppers Drug Mart, while Lego often commands a presence at the national superstore chains. A listing of Lego's numerous rivals, along with reviews of recent products from these companies, may be found here. (Incidentally, the only genre Lego has not delved into, which rival manufacturers have, is military/warfare-type sets; this was a conscious decision by Lego, although some consumers have created their own after-market sets using Lego products.) |
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The fantasy genre also has its own dueling works in 1960s in the form of The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia. Both take place in a fantasy setting and both use folkloric and religious themes in their stories. The authors J.R.R. Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were colleagues and close friends who both shared and exchanged each other ideas, hence to why some themes were similar. | |
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Barbie / Bratz Capsule Pitch Description: Fashion dolls for girls. Implementation: Barbie was meant to be a revolutionary new way for little girls to play with dolls. Much later, Bratz took the "glamourous" lifestyle and ramped it up. |
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In 2018, two musicals focusing on LGBT issues, The Prom and Tootsie, opened on Broadway. While Tootsie received glowing praise and 11 Tony nominations, The Prom has been met with mixed reviews, although it did receive seven Tony nominations. | |
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The 1990s had a rare intra-franchise example between The Thrawn Trilogy and the concurrent Dark Empire comic book series written by Tom Veitch. Both series were conceived as immediate sequels to the Original Trilogy, and although Dark Empire was conceived first, Heir to the Empire was released a few months earlier. Zahn was purportedly dismissive of Dark Empire and refused to incorporate references to the storyline into his Thrawn books, but since both series were set in the same universe, Veitch's comic had to be pushed forward six years in the in-universe timeline to accommodate the events of Zahn's novels. The fact that both Zahn and Veitch had many of the same basic ideas caused some incongruities (e.g. both authors wanted to write a major plot point of Han and Leia having Force-sensitive children, but the twins Jacen and Jaina are only briefly seen in Dark Empire) that had to be ironed out in later works. Ultimately, while Dark Empire made a big splash initially due to its great artwork and crowd-pleasing elements, the runaway success of Heir to the Empire ensured that Zahn's trilogy would become much more influential to the formation of the Star Wars Expanded Universe (both the old and the new). | |
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DC's Superman and Fawcett's Captain Marvel, so much so that when Captain Marvel's books sold better than Superman's, DC sued Fawcett over similarities between the characters. DC would eventually buy the rights to Captain Marvel from Fawcett. Ironically, these days Superman and Marvel have Friendly Fandoms due to their similarities. This was succeeded by DC's (formerly Fawcett's) Captain Marvel and Marvel's Captain Marvel, as the latter laid claim to the name after Fawcett ended its run but before DC picked up the original character. DC's resultant inability to name its comic after its lead character ultimately led to a trope. |
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DC's Swamp Thing and Marvel's Man-Thing premiered around the same time in 1971, by writers who were roommates at the time, and both became quick cult favorites. When Swamp Thing received his own series in 1972, his origin was changed and became much more similar to Man-Thing's, who also received an ongoing feature in Adventure into Fear at the same time. Since then, Swamp Thing has gone on to have many successful comic runs and a number of appearances in other media, whereas Man-Thing, while still successful, as of 2019 has yet to break out of his cult status. | |
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Jesus Christ Superstar came out in 1970 and Godspell came out the year after. Both feature Jesus in a version of biblical times with modern technology. They were then both turned into movies in 1973. | |
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Pleasant Goat Fun Class and Boonie Cubs are both spin-offs of long-running Chinese cartoons (Pleasant Goat and Big Big Wolf and Boonie Bears, respectively) and are both Edutainment Shows about younger versions of their main casts learning about the world around them. Fun Class premiered in 2016 while Boonie Cubs premiered in 2017. | |
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In 2008, there were two highly anticipated releases by dormant bands just one month apart: Ac Dc's Black Ice, after eight years away, and Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy, which had become the go-to example of "album that wouldn't come out" after over a decade in development. Both struck exclusive deals with big retailers, Walmart for Black Ice and Best Buy for Chinese Democracy. In the end, Axl Rose's Australian idols won handily as Black Ice was the second best-selling album of the year while Chinese Democracy couldn't even top the American charts (better marketing and promotion certainly helped). | |
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Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition / Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Capsule Pitch Description: d20 System tabletop RPGs. Implementation: D&D 4E was a dramatic rework of Dungeons & Dragons, often described by players as an attempt to have MMORPG-like combat gameplay on the tabletop. Pathfinder 1E, created by the former publisher of Dragon magazine after 4E's debut, is a rules update of D&D 3.5E, sometimes jokingly described as "D&D 3.75E". |
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Champions and Teen Titans (Rebirth) were both launched within a few months of each other as flagship teen-superhero team books of Marvel and DC's respective waves of comics in 2016. Both feature very diverse cast, both (initially) featured Animesque art styles, and both were the subject of a large Broken Base (mostly breaking on each respective writers interpretation of the characters). Their main differences are that Champions features mostly characters with solo titles of their own while Teen Titans doesn't, and the Champions team initially tries to tackle social issues while the Titans focuses more on battling supervillains. Champions would then be relaunched with a Retool to duel Young Justice (2019). This was a mistake, as the relaunch did more harm than good sales-wise and going against highly anticipated return of classic series, even if both received similiar critical and fan reception, ended in utter defeat in direct market that almost became a Franchise Killer. |
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Candy for Your Thoughts? and A Codette World Tour are both popular and highly-praised Total Drama World Tour fanfics that have extremely similar premises about Cody being shipped with an attractive Killer Bass girl he has little canon interaction with. Furthermore, the finale features the same teams (Cody, his girlfriend, and her ex vs. Alejandro, Heather, and Owen) and many divisive and unpopular elements of the season are fixed (like the Duncan/Gwen/Courtney Love Triangle, Alejandro's Invincible Villain qualities, the handling of many contestants, and the finale's outcome). The latter fic even makes a few nods to the former. Change of Plans is another Cody/Courtney fic, and was published around the same time that Candy expanded from a one-shot to a full season rewrite. The authors recommend each other's work. |
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Two musical adaptations of The Wild Party came out in 2000, with Michael John LaChiusa's running on Broadway and Andrew Lippa's Off-Broadway. However, both flopped. | |
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Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition / Pathfinder Second Edition Capsule Pitch Description: d20 System tabletop RPGs. Implementation: D&D 5E backwheels a lot of the more controversial gameplay changes from 4E and is designed with an eye towards ease of play compared to earlier editions and having fewer Game-Breaker abilities possible. Pathfinder 2E streamlines a number of mechanics compared to its predecessor and works to address inter-class balance, reducing Linear Warriors, Quadratic Wizards. |
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When The Great Gatsby entered the public domain in 2021, two different musical adaptations were announced, both aimed for Broadway. One, with music and lyrics by Jason Howland and Nathan Tysen and starring Jeremy Jordan as Gatsby and Eva Noblezada as Daisy, premiered in New Jersey in October 23 with a Broadway opening set for April 2024. The second, with music by Florence Welch and Thomas Bartlett, is scheduled to premiere in Cambridge in summer 2024. | |
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Survivors, Dogs of the Drowned City, and The Last Dogs are three similar series that came out around the same time. They're children's xenofiction literature about a group of dogs surviving on their own in a city after their humans evacuate due to a natural disaster (an earthquake and a hurricane respectively in the first two) or a disease sweeping throughout the country (in The Last Dogs). Dogs of the Drowned City was a trilogy, The Last Dogs was a tetralogy, and Survivors has twelve books and three novellas. | |
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The Katzenjammer Kids, one of the oldest American strips, was at the height of its popularity in 1912 when its two creators, Rudolph Dirks and Harold Knerr, got into a legal battle over the rights to the strip. The judge, whose verdict contemporary commentators likened to King Solomon, essentially gave both men the legal rights to continue the strip, so long as only Knerr used the name "Katzenjammer Kids". So Knerr continued the strip as always, and Dirks started a "new" strip, creatively titled, "The Captain and the Kids", which was essentially the same. Both strips ran contemporaneously for 65 years (Knerr in papers owned by Hearst and Dirks in papers run by Pulitzer), and the writers of each strip would blatantly study the other and try to outdo each other's stories and gags. As the rivalry pushed both strips to be their absolute best, it's clear that the true winner of the legal battle was the readers. | |
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The 2010s have the Rivers of London series by Ben Aaronovitch and the Shadow Police series by Paul Cornell, which are both stories about Metropolitan Police "magical crime" squads written by former Doctor Who writers. | |
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Marvel had dueling works with itself, with 2016's All-New Wolverine and the 2015 Old Man Logan over which is the "rightful successor" to previous Logan-led Wolverine books. Points in All-New Wolverine's favor are the title, and the fact that Laura is actively using the Wolverine name. Point's in Old Man Logan's favor the are that it stars a Logan, and has generally more mature and violent content. | |
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