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Dumb and Drummer

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In the eyes of many people, a percussionist isn't a real musician. After all, how many brain cells can it really take to bang on stuff with sticks? For a single item, probably not many. As a result, it's common for a drummer to be portrayed as, well, stupid. And yet...
Playing percussion adequately often involves managing many more actions and ideas at once than most other instruments. Real drummers who consider themselves "serious" musicians often refer to themselves as "percussionists" in an attempt to distance themselves from this trope as well as because many drummers also play general percussion. They might even have different items of percussion attached to their kit, such as tambourines or mark trees. Even for those who only play drums, to do so at any professional level usually requires either the ability to read musical notation or the talent to create beats/play by ear, and they are the backbone of the band's sound in many genres - so if they are so stupid their musicianship is awful and/or they can't keep rhythm, the entire band will usually sound awful. So it's not Truth in Television for the most part. On the other hand, drum kits are expensive relative to guitars and amps, and require much more practice space. If your drummer is an idiot (probably not), it's not all that easy to replace them.
Compare All Drummers Are Animals, as the two tropes often overlap; however, keep in mind that a savage character is not necessarily stupid and vice-versa. Also compare Alcohol-Induced Idiocy because of the (not-unfounded) stereotype of drummers often being the heaviest drinkers in a band. Contrast Nobody Loves the Bassist.
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In Scary Larry, the band's drummer is Frank, who is the biggest and by far the dumbest member of the group.
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A similar one from an interview with Metallica
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In Follies, Phyllis tells Buddy that about a lover she once had who "played the drums and had long hair and no command of language."
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Yellow Submarine: Ringo's clearly not as bright as his bandmates, but he seems more of a Cloudcuckoolander than anything. In the end, his quick thinking is what frees Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band from their imprisonment, which surprises everyone.
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The Divine Comedy associates drums with idiocy, as identified by Amilcare Iannucci. The dull counterfeiter Master Adam may have a disproportioned body that looks like a lute, but when hit, his dropsies make the sound of a drum that exposes his lower class, brutish nature, and idiocy to all fooled by his self-excusing lies.
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Averted with Metalocalypse; Pickles the Drummer is almost certainly the smartest member of the band (that is to say, the only member of even average intelligence), and was lead singer and guitarist of Snakes & Barrels before joining Dethklok.
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The Muppet Show: Animal, the drummer for the Electric Mayhem. Once, when Kermit was too busy to answer a knock, he asked Animal to get the door. Animal got it by ripping it off its hinges and bringing it to the frog.
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In Persona 4 Golden, you have to play a concert at one point, and it's resident big guy and probably dumbest guy on the team Kanji who is on drum duty. When attempting to stagedive, he even manages to land upright (and stay) on his face.
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The drummer in Still Crazy clearly isn't the brightest in the band and the narrator expresses the opinion that "If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, then drummers are from Pluto."
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Kon Kujira isn't the smartest member in Grojband obviously (although he tends to lean more into being a Genius Ditz than a full-on Ditz), but being The Big Guy pretty much makes up for it.
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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: During the Silly Song, Dopey is seen playing the drums.
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The '60s animated series The Beatles gave Ringo this treatment.
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In Issue 8 of Teen Girl Squad, the girls form a band and The Ugly One (the biggest space cadet of the group) ends up playing drums.
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Drake & Josh utilized this trope whenever Drake's band appeared, and his drummer felt the need to call drums every time they went onstage.
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Miserable invokes both this and Nobody Loves the Bassist near the end of the video. When Pam/Vallery starts chasing down and devouring the band members, Allen, the band's drummer, is easily caught and eaten by her, making him her second victim. Though he at least lives longer than the band's bassist, Kevin Baldes.
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Ash from I'm in the Band is considered a Genius Ditz...at best. At worst, he's a moron.
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Glee: In some respects, Finn Hudson is a walking, talking (though not at the same time) drummer joke...
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Fraggle Rock: Balsam, who plays the bongos, is The Ditz of the Minstrels, as he admits in his verse of "Music Makes Us Real (Ping!)."
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Scare Tactics (DC Comics): This is what the rest of the band initially assume about Grossout because he is a hulking beast who only communicates in Hulk Speak. Subverted when Grossout gets hold of Arnie's computer and types out his story. He is actually intelligent and articulate, but cannot communicate verbally because of his transformation.
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Howard Weinerman from Randy Cunningham: Ninth Grade Ninja.
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Sort of implicit in Almost Famous, as the drummer for Stillwater never speaks until a rather pivotal moment: when the band's plane starts to crash and they all believe they're going to die, the drummer yells "I'm gay!". The others in the band tend to pretend he's not even there.
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Kevin from Rhapsodies is essentially an amalgamation of every drummer joke you ever heard. Though he's more oblivious than stupid.
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In his Guitar Hero World Tour review he had this to say in response to some of the songs having non-English lyrics: "If you don't speak Spanish, singing them is like if the guitarist was required to play wearing mittens. Or if the drummer were required to think."
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In one episode, SpongeBob SquarePants' band, SpongeBob and the Hi-Seas, has the village-idiot character Patrick as its drummer.
Also in 'Band Geeks'.
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Soul Music:
Lias "Cliff" Bluestone is a rather simple-minded troll who's frequently described as "one of nature's drummers".
Scum of Ande Supporting Bandes is apparently too stupid to be a drummer. "What if I miss?"
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Averted in Whiplash, where the potential for drummers to be great musicians in their own right is treated completely seriously, and much of the focus of the film is on the endless practice, discipline and physical pain required to become genuinely good at drums as opposed to simply keeping the beat.
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Homestar Runner:
In the Strong Bad Email "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the Fat Comic Relief in their short-lived Band Toon "Limozeen: But They're In Space!"
In Issue 8 of Teen Girl Squad, the girls form a band and The Ugly One (the biggest space cadet of the group) ends up playing drums.
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Faith's list of loser ex-boyfriends went "Ronnie: deadbeat. Steve: klepto. Kenny: ''drummer''."
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K-On!: Ritsu Tainaka. As the Light Music Club's drummer, she isn't particularly stupid, just lazy and forgetful. The reason she plays the drums is that she thinks playing the guitar or keyboard is too complicated and would frustrate her.
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Yahtzee from Zero Punctuation has invoked this twice:
Part of his GDC video was dedicated to 2007's rhythm game boom, in which he commented "It seems these days even the most talentless, brick-headed, rhythm-deficient drool dispenser can know what it's like to be in a rock band as something other than the drummer."
In his Guitar Hero World Tour review he had this to say in response to some of the songs having non-English lyrics: "If you don't speak Spanish, singing them is like if the guitarist was required to play wearing mittens. Or if the drummer were required to think."
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In the Strong Bad Email "best thing", the drummer of Limozeen was made the Fat Comic Relief in their short-lived Band Toon "Limozeen: But They're In Space!"
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In School of Rock, Freddy is often teased for playing percussion because he "couldn't play anything else," but Dewey helps him use rock drumming as an effective outlet for his anger issues.
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Joe of Joe's Apartment is made the drummer of a band called Shit shortly after moving in and is humiliated when he plays his first gig with them with zero skill.
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