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Dumb Dinos
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Dinosaurs: slow, moronic, only existing to eat...and destined to go extinct as they couldn't cope with their changing world, due to their brains being no bigger than a walnut. Slow, lumbering brutes with poor reflexes and even poorer movement... and heaven help you if you run into a carnivore, because they've only got one thing on their mind: eat. This view of dinosaurs was prevalent from the late 19th century to the mid-20th century, to the point where the word "dinosaur" came to mean "obsolete failure." Stegosaurus and sauropods, such as Brontosaurus, are particularly associated with this stereotype, partly due to a long-standing myth that these dinosaurs were so stupid that they needed a second brain in the rear to function at all. Carnivorous dinosaurs like Tyrannosaurus rex are likely to be mindlessly violent, attacking in dangerous situations where no real animal would take the risk or when the dinosaur recently fed and has no need to hunt. Herbivores will sometimes be unrealistically passive, running away at best and making no serious attempt to defend themselves from predators, let alone effectively. However, in settings where the dinosaurs are sapient, it's likely that the carnivores will be on the receiving end of the trope because Predators Are Mean. Sympathetic herbivores may also fall under Dumb Is Good. The biggest exception to this rule is usually dromaeosaurs, who are almost always portrayed as neither dumb nor good — the Raptor Attack trope originally came about in an attempt to avert this one. Pterosaurs are also less likely to be victims of this trope, and have their own set of stereotypes. This trope is generally associated with older works and is becoming increasingly rare after the Dinosaur Renaissance revamped the popular image of dinosaurs, spawning the likes of Jurassic Park, but it does still occasionally pop up every now and again. These days, however, it's far more likely to be Played for Laughs as opposed to serious fiction. Compare Prehistoric Monster, which it often overlaps with, and Frazetta Man, in which prehistoric humans are demonized and their intelligence downplayed. Doofy Dodo and Unwise Owl apply to stupid and/or comedic dodos and owls (ironically another kind of dinosaurs, as far as science is concerned). Dogs Are Dumb and Moose Are Idiots are similar tropes applying to domestic dogs and moose respectively. Lazy Dragon is a similar trope regarding Dinosaurs Are Dragons. A subtrope of Artistic License – Paleontology and Historical Downgrade.note After all, dinosaurs as a group dominated the food chain for 180 million years. All of history since then is only 65 million years. If dinosaurs were actually Too Dumb to Live, how the hell did they manage to live for that long? Sub-Trope of Dumb Muscle. |
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In Preacher (2016), God destroyed the dinosaurs because he saw one of them eating their own feces. | |
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Alley Oop released a few "educational" comics about the dinosaurs in the strip. Several used this trope. Dinny the dinosaur, the primary dinosaur character in the strip, is friendly but none too bright. | |
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Dinosaurs in The Far Side don't come across as particularly intelligent for the most part. In one cartoon a T. rex is shown to have poor grammar, and in another a group of dinosaurs are laughing at a mammal as it begins to snow. Yet another has a Stegosaurus explaining that the prospects for long-term species survival are poor because the dinosaurs have a brain the size of a walnut. | |
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The Giant Behemoth: The Behemoth in particular is very sick and wants to reach shallow water, but makes no effort to avoid populated areas or encounters with humans when doing so, even when it is attacked. | |
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In The Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild, Orson the Protoceratops is an Evil Genius who openly mocks this trope when Crash and Eddie say that dinosaurs "just grunt and roar like nincompoops". Orson's henchmen are identified as raptors, but are more lizardlike, can't speak like Gavin and his family, and seem rather stupid, only obeying Orson because he mesmerized them with fire. | |
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Digimon: Dinosaur-based Digimon are generally portrayed as fully sapient, able to speak, follow orders, and work effectively with humans. Takato's Guilmon is very naive and gullible, however, though it's mainly due to him being very young. | |
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Reverse Jurassic Park: Inverted. The dinosaurs are intelligent and humans are feared as stupid, ferocious monsters. | |
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The Simpsons: Averted in "Days of Future Future" where resurrected dinosaurs and pterosaurs kept in zoos are intelligent enough to understand and obey orders, perform tricks in front of patrons, and make use of human-made material (T. rex even sleeps with a teddy bear while wearing a nightcap). Played with in the final segment of "Treehouse of Horror XXIX", where senior citizens transform into dinosaurs and other Mesozoic reptiles due to being infused with their DNA. While they do go on a rampage and kill some people, they retain their personalities and ultimately can be reasoned with. |
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Meet the Robinsons: Tiny the T. rex, although under mind control at the time, is at least smart enough to ask Bowler Hat Guy if he thought his plan through. He's also perfectly willing to be civil once the hat mind-controlling him is removed. | |
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Inverted in Zniw Adventure. Dinosaurs and other prehistoric reptiles are sentient or civilized, while mammals are feral. | |
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Supergirl: In ''Action Comics #259: "The Cave-Girl of Steel" (1959), Supergirl travels to the prehistoric age and finds dinosaurs, depicted as sluggish and slow-witted creatures which are easily fooled and scared away. A Brontosaur even hurts itself as trying to shake Supergirl off his neck. | |
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Darkwing Duck: Stegmutt is an anthropomorphic duck turned into a Stegosaurus by a Devolution Device. He's a Dumb Muscle minion of the villain of the week, Dr. Fossil (who himself is an aversion, an Evil Genius duck turned into a Pteranodon who keeps his intelligence), until he does a Heel–Face Turn and becomes Darkwing's gentle, but still dumb ally. Zig-zagged in "Extinct Possibility", where Darkwing's party go back millions of years to discover dinosaurs were fully sapient. Despite having technology, civilization, and architecture, the dinosaurs do many things "backward" compares to modern man (e.g. using stone-wheeled vehicles on inflatable rubber roads), which Darkwing deduces as why they went extinct. |
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In Kong: King of Skull Island, most of the dinosaurs are like this with the exception of the Slashers, Velociraptor descendants. Slasher packs are led by Deathrunners, an even bigger and smarter variant, and their enormous ruler/god Gaw. Gaw and the Deathrunners are deadly rivals of the native humans of Skull Island and the Kongs, which they successfully almost drove to extinction. | |
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Dino Squad: Played with. While the main characters are humans who can change into dinosaurs (and one pterosaur) at will, and both their mentor and archenemy are hyperintelligent Velociraptors (who inexplicably gained the ability to change into people), the animals exposed to the villain's chemicals and "reverted" usually become extremely aggressive and mindlessly violent — regardless of the animal's previous disposition. However, only the main characters (in their transformed states) and the Velociraptors are considered "perfect dinosaurs". | |
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Dilbert: Bob the Dinosaur is one of the strip's few consistently nice and well-meaning characters, but also one of the dumbest. | |
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The dinosaurs in Calvin and Hobbes come across as dim and helpless in the case of the herbivores, and violent eating machines in the case of the carnivores (except for the one time they were in fighter jets). Justified in that the strips reflect Calvin's imagination, not real life, and this is how he imagines dinosaurs to be. | |
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Animaniacs: Baloney the Dinosaur, a parody of Barney, is overly friendly and cheerful to the point of being annoying, especially towards the Warners. He is also so dimwitted that he doesn't realize he's being tormented even after getting anvils dropped on him. | |
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Star Fox Adventures averts this as far as herbivorous dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) are concerned. The carnivores are presented as more vicious, most notably the Redeye Tribe, which do not talk and are driven by more animalistic instinct. | |
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Generation 1: The Dinobots are very powerful, but also very stupid and difficult to control. Various adaptations since then have played with just how stupid they are, and in some cases their leader Grimlock is Obfuscating Stupidity or suffers from speech defects that make him sound more stupid than he really is. True to the trope, however, Sludge, the sauropod Dinobot, is the stupidest of the bunch. The Dinobots in any version have nothing on Soundwave's two dinosaur cassettes, Overkill (a Ceratosaurus) and Slugfest (a Stegosaurus). Overkill is, as his name suggests, prone to overdoing everything and getting himself in trouble. Slugfest, meanwhile, is not only dumber than a post, he perceives things that he can't understand (which is practically everything) as insults and immediately attacks them. The Decepticon Titan Trypticon, whose robot mode resembles a tyrannosaurus rex, also had this as his portrayal, acting childish and prone to violent tantrums of destruction. Unlike the Dinobots, this is the only portrayal that depicts him as such, though he's still often used as a brutish force of destruction. The Japanese-original sequel Transformers Victory introduces the Dinoforce, a group of Decepticons with dinosaur Pretender shells that while a competent threat in the first episodes, Badass Decay leads them to this, becoming the series comic relief. Kakuryu moreso than the rest, who in Japanese manga from the 2010s fittingly defects to the Autobots and becomes a rookie Dinobot recruit. |
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In Dinosaur, the herbivores are fully sapient while the carnivores seem more instinct-driven and show no capacity for speech. However, even the herbivores are portrayed with a social Darwinist mentality which only the mammal-raised hero lacks. However, the Carnotaurus and Velociraptor show relatively realistic predatory behavior, only attacking stragglers and hunting solely for food rather than malice. After one of the carnotaurs is killed, the survivor seems to be Driven to Madness. Also like real predators, it backs down when it's confronted by the entire herd and targets a vulnerable, isolated individual - Kron - instead. | |
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Atomic Robo: Played with by Dr. Dinosaur. On one hand, he wields advanced technology and is one of the few villains who regularly gives the title character a run for his money. On the other hand, he's also stark raving bonkers. | |
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In Land of the Lost (1974), most of the dinosaurs that the Marshalls meet aren't particularly smart, and fewer are particularly friendly. | |
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Like the films above, Jurassic Park (1990) averts the trope with comparatively realistic dinosaur behavior and, in particular, the dangerously intelligent Velociraptors. | |
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In We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story, the pre-anthropomorphized dinosaurs, Rex in particular, are portrayed as stupid and mindlessly violent. Even Elsa and Dweeb, a Pteranodon and Parasaurolophus respectively, which wouldn't be much threatening in real life. They are later returned to this state by the film's Big Bad. How intelligent they are when evolved is up to debate, as they all behave like extremely innocent three-year old kids. Granted, Rex and Elsa are a tad more eloquent than Dweeb and Woog. | |
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Killer Instinct: Riptor has human intelligence, but according to supplementary material she has severe Split Personality issues between her intelligent human side and instinctual dinosaur side and is more likely to attack than attempt any kind of friendly communication. | |
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Love in the Time of Chasmosaurs often discusses books, generally nonfiction and/or educational, using this trope from the perspective of a modern paleontologist. | |
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In The Last Dinosaur, the title character, a T. rex, is of the "mindless eating machine" variety, consistently attacking humans as opposed to its natural prey in the Lost World and occasionally targeting inanimate objects. | |
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The Lost World (1912): The assorted prehistoric animals come off this way, including the pterodactyls, Iguanodon, and Megalosaurus — they are portrayed as backwards, grotesque, and inferior creatures who need to be subjugated for progress. The pterodactyl is utterly incapable of surviving in the modern world when it escapes capture, and a Megalosaurus attacks the protagonists even after it has recently fed on an Iguanodon. The Iguanodon themselves are harmless and helpless creatures who put up no defense against the megalosaurs or human interlopers, and the pterodactyls receive an unflattering portrayal as drab, ugly, and disgusting monsters. Since the book was one of the first appearances of dinosaurs as characters in popular fiction, it was the Trope Codifier for many pre-Renaissance portrayals. For example, because the dinosaurs are so stupid and slow, they die slowly and can take a lot of damage in the meantime. | |
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Dinosaucers: The villains have access to Devolution Devices that allow them to forcibly regress a target anthro-dinosaur to his or her feral prehistoric form, with the accompanying loss of intelligence. This usually gets turned on them for comedic effect. The devolution ray is shown in one episode to have a similar effect on humans, reverting the target to an animalistic "caveman" type. He gets loose - fortunately in New York City, where he's just seen as a street act. Bonehead and Ankylo are the dimmest members of their respective teams. |
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Seton Academy: Join the Pack!: Inverted. Sapient dinosaurs and pterosaurs are the teachers at Seton Academy and their students are Cenozoic animals including humans. | |
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In Flesh, dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals imported from the Mesozoic are used as a food source in the future. They are portrayed as instinct-driven and unintelligent, but are still dangerous in the case of predatory species, especially legendary individuals like Big Hungry the giant nothosaur and Old One Eye, a 120 year old female T. rex. The dinosaurs eventually attack and utterly slaughter the invading humans. | |
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The main characters of XTNCT are inversions, being genetically modified dinosaurs who were created to fight on behalf of their human owner. The dinosaurs revolt and turn against humanity, planning to wipe it out. Given that in the future Humans Are Bastards who have killed off most non-modified animal life and treat the modified animals like slaves, they're more-or-less the good guys. | |
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Dinosaurus!: While the T. rex is a violent monster who attacks indiscriminately, the Brontosaurus is more good-natured and trainable by the heroes but also dim. | |
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2000 AD: In Flesh, dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals imported from the Mesozoic are used as a food source in the future. They are portrayed as instinct-driven and unintelligent, but are still dangerous in the case of predatory species, especially legendary individuals like Big Hungry the giant nothosaur and Old One Eye, a 120 year old female T. rex. The dinosaurs eventually attack and utterly slaughter the invading humans. The main characters of XTNCT are inversions, being genetically modified dinosaurs who were created to fight on behalf of their human owner. The dinosaurs revolt and turn against humanity, planning to wipe it out. Given that in the future Humans Are Bastards who have killed off most non-modified animal life and treat the modified animals like slaves, they're more-or-less the good guys. |
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Both the original novel and film adaptation of Carnosaur portray carnivorous dinosaurs as overly vicious and bold, going out of their way to kill humans and attack public spaces with no provocation. While they were created by a Mad Scientist to do just this, there's no evidence that he tampered with the DNA to make them more violent. To be fair, the novel does better on this front than the films do, and is an effort to mesh a monstrous portrayal of dinosaurs with Renaissance-era information — the dinosaurs are agile, warm-blooded, and smart enough to be threatening. The film version, on the other hand, portrays the dinosaurs as straight-up mindless monsters. | |
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Eek! The Cat: Doc, Squat, and Kutter from The Terrible Thunderlizards are a trio of incompetent special forces operatives who are tapped to kill a couple of cavemen before they can evolve into modern humans. They aren't very good at it. The other dinosaurs, however, are shown to be fairly intelligent, particularly the T. rex General Galapagos, who is constantly angered and frustrated by the trio's antics and failures. | |
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Dungeons & Dragons: In early editions, all dinosaurs (and many other prehistoric creatures) are rated as non-intelligent (i.e. they have an intelligence score of 0) — later editions give them the same intelligence of other animals (2 in 3.5). The entries also usually go out of their way to emphasize their stupidity, ascribing such traits as being mindlessly voracious and aggressive or prone to panicking in manners that harm themselves. | |
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Zigzagged on Prehistoric Planet. A lot of the dinosaurs and other prehistoric reptiles featured are depicted as not very bright, but still fully capable of getting by in their own environment. In the first episode, a colony of Tethydraco seem oddly apathetic to a Phosphatodraco wandering around the beach eating their young, but a pod of Tuarangasaurus, seeing another of their kind being menaced by the mosasaurid Kaikaifilou while trying to give birth, come to her aid, driving the larger predator away, with David Attenborough's narration explaining that the entire pod - who are probably all related - benefit from working together for mutual protection, and have the social intelligence to see that. Migratory dinosaurs and pterosaurs are routinely shown as quite adept at navigation; "Deserts" has a herd of hadrosaurs navigating by the stars, while in "Badlands", a Tarchia has developed a "mental map" of a network of canyons. "Badlands" also has a herd of Isisaurus traveling through the volcanic hellscape of the Deccan Traps to lay their eggs, in what seems like a suicidal move, but is shown to actual be an extremely viable strategy - a blanket of Deadly Gas on the ground will keep out predators, but the giant Isisaurs are tall enough to avoid breathing it, the volcanic heat provides perfect incubation for the eggs, and by the time the eggs hatch, the change in seasons has thinned out the gas and most of the hatchlings are able to make it through. In "Ice Worlds" , a troodontid dinosaur - generally considered to be among the smartest of the dinosaurs - is shown making simple use of tools to deliberately spread a forest fire, just as some kinds of hawks do today, in order to flush out prey. "Forests" has a similiar scene of an Atrociraptor using a smoking branch to kill parasites in his feathers. In "Badlands", a group of male Corythoraptors, incubating their eggs, take it in turns to go out and forage for food, ensuring that the nests are never left unattended. This isn't enough to stop a sneaky Kuru kulla from swiping a few eggs (to share with her own chicks), but the colony survives. "Swamps" shows that even the mighty Tyrannosaurus need to use their brains. A pair of rexes are shown stalking a herd of Edmontosaurus, and decide to wait for nightfall to make the most of their excellent low-light vision. They coordinate their movements, with one rex deliberately tipping off the prey to its location in order to drive them toward the other rex's ambush. |
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The Lost World: The dinosaurs follow standard movie dinosaur behavior in constantly attacking humans and other dinosaurs for no reason. Special mention goes to the Brontosaurus, who rampages across London despite being an herbivore. Granted, it was most likely rampaging out of panic from suddenly ending up in an unfamiliar environment, which is helped by the fact it was fairly calm when left alone in its natural habitat. On the other hand, the dinosaurs are quite lively and quick animals. There is also a sympathetic moment for a mother Triceratops looking after its young; this is a very early example that predates fossil evidence of parental care in dinosaurs. | |
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The Ren & Stimpy Show: One episode features the Stimpysaurus, a sauropod described as one of the largest dinosaurs and the stupidest creature that ever lived. When Ren hears this, he makes Stimpy hand over his Medal of Dishonor. The Stimpysaurus itself unknowingly stepped on a Renosaurus, attempted to live in a tree smaller than it (getting struck by lightning as a result), and met its end by sticking its head in a tar pit. What do you expect from a creature that is based on and named after Stimpy? | |
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In Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping, the first line of Hunter the Hungry's song "Hunter The Hungry Is Gonna Eat" alludes to this. | |
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In The Cartoon History of the Universe, the dinosaurs are portrayed as dim-witted bullies toward the mammals, deliberately suppressing and stepping on them. | |
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Journey to the Center of the Earth provides a very early pre-dinosaur example with an oversized and overly violent Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus fighting each other to the death. Though it's now believed that these species would not have been particularly aggressive towards each other or interested in fighting, in Jules Verne's time their depictions would have been considered accurate. | |
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Super Mario World (1991): Yoshi is childlike and good-natured, but dim. The other dinosaurs in the setting are stupid and predatory toward the native cavemen in a departure from the games. | |
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Super Mario Bros. (1993): The evolved, sapient dinosaur-people are generally portrayed as more violent, crude, and stupid than their human counterparts, and their world is a dystopian hellhole. | |
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The Flintstones: Dino and the other tame dinosaurs are friendly but not particularly bright. However, in his debut Dino was actually an aversion — he was able to talk and was more of a household servant than a pet. In the series proper, he has the behavior of a dog, combining this trope with Dogs Are Dumb. | |
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Krypto the Superdog: Subverted. In one episode, Ignatius, Lex Luthor's pet iguana, goes back in time assuming this trope, planning to make himself the king of the dinosaurs with his superior intelligence. The dinosaurs turn out to be both intelligent and not very impressed by Ignatius, especially when he tries to steal T. rex eggs. | |
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In King Kong (1933), the dinosaurs are stupid and violent, attacking humans for little reason. This includes the herbivores. This was taken to an extreme in Peter Jackson's remake. A huge herd of brontosaurs panic and go on an Animal Stampede due to the approach of a pack of Venatosaurs (dromaeosaur descendants), clumsily running into canyon walls, falling off of cliffs, tripping and tumbling over each other, and in general harming themselves far more than the predators they're running from ever manage to (To be fair, this sometimes happens with modern stampeding animals). Not to be out-dumbed, the predatory dinosaurs all single-mindedly try to eat every other living thing in sight. A young Vastatosaurus rex goes after Ann even though it's already carrying half of the remains of a freshly-killed Foetodon (a large, scavenging land crocodile) in its mouth. This was part of the film's more artistic side: the dinosaurs are stupid because that's what they were perceived as in 1933. (This is also why none of the dinosaurs have feathers and why the Tyrannosaurus-like vastatosaurs have three fingers instead of two.) | |
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The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms: The Rhedosaurus is another mindlessly violent city-destroying monster. However, the Ray Bradbury short story it was adapted from averted the trope — the dinosaur is intelligent enough to socialize and avoid contact with humans. | |
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Ice Age: The various dinosaurs, Mesozoic reptiles and flying lizards generally aren't very bright compared to the mammal protagonists, and most of them can't talk. Cretaceous and Maelstrom in The Meltdown, identified as an ichthyosaur and pliosaur respectively, are more brutish and hungry forces of nature than characters. Rudy the Baryonyx and the mother T. rex in Dawn of the Dinosaurs are portrayed as a fair bit smarter than most — the T. rex eventually befriends the main characters while Rudy is smart enough to hold a mutual grudge with Buck. The Guanlong and pterosaurs, however, can be seen as dumb, mostly from their predatory instincts overriding their awareness of something unpleasant or fault happening. For instance, a pterosaur in the pack that chases Buck, Crash and Eddie would later kill himself when flying right up to the mammals due to his own instinct. Ironically, the Troodon (commonly viewed as intelligent) are depicted as total screwballs with googly eyes. Dromaeosaurids, particularly the three flying raptors from Collision Course (believed to be Dakotaraptors by fans and The Other Wiki, although real Dakotaraptor couldn't fly) appear to be the only non-avian dinosaurs who are sapient and capable of speech. Even they, with the possible exception of Roger, aren't too bright, genuinely believing that they can avoid an impending mass extinction through flight and deliberately trying to sabotage the main characters' efforts to stop it. They do, however, eventually realize that they won't survive either and pull a Heel–Face Turn. In The Ice Age Adventures of Buck Wild, Orson the Protoceratops is an Evil Genius who openly mocks this trope when Crash and Eddie say that dinosaurs "just grunt and roar like nincompoops". Orson's henchmen are identified as raptors, but are more lizardlike, can't speak like Gavin and his family, and seem rather stupid, only obeying Orson because he mesmerized them with fire. |
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Transformers: Prime: While Starscream mistakes Predaking, the setting's dinosaur equivalent, for a stupid animal, Predaking is a subversion — he's smart enough to operate a computer after watching Cybertronians do it, recognizes and avoids Wheeljack's Eat the Bomb tactic in battle, is capable of speech, and later reveals himself to be intelligent and eloquent. His species, the Predacons, are fully sapient. | |
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In The Land Before Time, the herbivore protagonists are sapient and can talk, but the villainous "Sharptooth" can't. Even Spike can talk, but (usually) chooses not to, and other Stegosaurus in the setting are intelligent. Sequels portray the situation as less Sharpteeth being stupid and more that they have a separate language from the herbivores, with the sympathetic Sharptooth Chomper as bilingual. As depicted in the film's novelization, the Sharptooth in the original film was intelligent and a particularly sadistic one who killed for fun more than food. The villainous Struthiomimus pair in the second film can and do talk to the protagonists, and other bilingual predatory characters, like Ichy and Dil in the fourth movie, likely can't be bothered to have conversations with their prey. This trope gets referenced in the first movie when Cera insults Littlefoot by saying that "I hear long necks have very small brains." Additionally, the trope is played with in regards to the adult dinosaurs of the Great Valley. While they're fairly civilized, they also tend to be rather insular, small-minded, and occasionally downright xenophobic (with these traits being on full display with Cera's father, Topps). Such shortcomings often prevent the dinosaurs from solving any problem that happens to befall the valley, leaving it up to the child protagonists to find a solution. |
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The Lost World (2001): Discussed and deconstructed. In an early scene, Prof. Summerlee gives a lecture explaining that dinosaurs went extinct because they were too slow and clumsy to compete with mammals, which was the scientific consensus when the series is set - the meteorite impact theory had not yet been developed. However, when the bold explorers finally make it to the Plateau, they peacefully interact with a few of the dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals, finding them well-adapted to their environment and fairly intelligent, and, in an Adaptational Alternate Ending, the explorers ultimately decide to protect the Plateau by keeping its location a secret from the rest of the world. There's a rather pointed defiance of this trope in the handling of a Pteranodon chick, whose egg the party bring back to London with them as proof of what they've found, but the hatchling escapes; in the book, the narrator assures us that, being such a clumsy, badly-evolved flier, the creature won't make it as far as Dover, but the miniseries shows us that it does indeed manage to fly all the way back to the Plateau (sure enough, it's now believed that most pterosaurs were good flyers and Pteranodon in particular was capable of long-distance travel over sea, like the modern albatross). | |
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The Valley of Gwangi: Gwangi the ''Allosaurus' is of the marauding-monster variety, leaving an elephant he kills uneaten before targeting humans. To be fair though, he was largely rampaging at that point in a way that a confused animal removed from the environment he is most familiar with would act. And the fact that he left the elephant he killed uneaten could easily be explained by him either just not being hungry and trying to get away from the creature or being confused by the sight of prey movement still unfolding around him immediately after he's killed the elephant similarly to how modern day predatory animals have at times behaved in similar situations. | |
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While the featured dinosaurs subvert it, Walking with Dinosaurs gives this treatment to the non-saurian rauisuchid Postosuchus and dicynodont Placerias in the first episode ("New Blood"), as both are depicted as lumbering and ungainly relics from a bygone age that can barely move at a snail's pace and are destined to be supplanted by the "superior" dinosaurs like Coelophysis and Plateosaurus, much in the same way mammals were once viewed in contrast to dinosaurs. Postosuchus in particular was a fast ambush predator and a strict biped that was a very real threat to contemporary dinosaurs. | |
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In Dinosaurs, the dinosaurs are portrayed as stupid but mostly likable and well-meaning. On the other hand, they are responsible for their own extinction. Ironically, one of the characters in the show who averts this trope is a Brontosaurus, a common victim of this stereotype. | |
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Dromaeosaurids, particularly the three flying raptors from Collision Course (believed to be Dakotaraptors by fans and The Other Wiki, although real Dakotaraptor couldn't fly) appear to be the only non-avian dinosaurs who are sapient and capable of speech. Even they, with the possible exception of Roger, aren't too bright, genuinely believing that they can avoid an impending mass extinction through flight and deliberately trying to sabotage the main characters' efforts to stop it. They do, however, eventually realize that they won't survive either and pull a Heel–Face Turn. | |
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Xenozoic Tales: The reborn dinosaurs are more nuanced than most prehistoric monsters — they're part of the setting, the heroes work to protect them from human and nonhuman threats, and at least one (Hermes the Allosaurus) is smart enough to be trained and work with people. | |
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The Crater Lake Monster features an amphibious plesiosaur who crawls onto land to hunt humans, continuing to attack even when seriously hurt and facing severe resistance. | |
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Tyrannosaur Canyon: Zig-zagged. Flashbacks to the titular T. rex describe her as highly intelligent, and yet, a being of pure instinct; she's incapable of a memory longer than a day — even mating and raising her kids are autonomous, quickly forgotten in search of a meal. | |
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Land of the Lost: Parodied. When a T. rex attacks the protagonists, but they outwit it by crossing a log bridge, Marshall notes as it walks away that it only has a brain the size of a walnut. The T. rex takes it as a personal insult and attacks the protagonists again. Later it drops a gigantic walnut in front of the cave where the protagonists are hiding, just to prove a point. | |
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While this isn't the case with most dinosaur-based Pokémon, the Cranidos line, based on pachycephalosaurs, are described as having small brains. | |
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Raptor Red averts the trope, portraying the dinosaurs' intelligence as realistically as could be allowed given information available at the time, and all of them are perfectly functional in their habitat. The book was written by one of the paleontologists behind the Dinosaur Renaissance. | |
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Nanosaur: Most of the enemy dinosaurs follow this trope — the player character, a sapient Velociraptor in the first game and a pterosaur in the second, is the exception. | |
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Transformers: Age of Extinction: The Dinobots can't speak in English or Cybertronian, generally seem pretty bestial, and are more violence-prone than the other Autobots. When they return briefly in the Transformers: The Last Knight, they behave more like domesticated animals. The toyline-exclusive character Slog (a renamed Sludge for trademark reasons) is described as the dumbest of them all, as is tradition. |
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Spider-Man: Stegron the Dinosaur Man, a lesser-known member of Spider-Man's Rogues Gallery and a Mad Scientist who was transformed into an anthropomorphic Stegosaurus and has the ability to control dinosaurs. While he isn't stupid per se, he isn't exactly considered a top-tier threat. Spider-Man considers him to be little more than a low-grade knockoff of the Lizard, in fact. He's generally only seen just often enough for Marvel to keep the copyright on him from expiring. | |
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My World… and Welcome to It: In "The Human Being and the Dinosaur," John tells Lydia a fable about the two title characters. In it, he characterizes the dinosaur as being stupid and doomed to extinction, while the human is smart and destined to rule the world for eternity. | |
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Warhammer 40,000: The Kroot are an avian species with the ability to reshape their DNA based on what they eat. Eating too much of one species makes the change irreversible, leaving the kroot stuck as a non-sentient beast like Kroothounds or Krootoxen (despite the name, they're more like gorillas). The biggest and stupidest of them all is the Greater Knarloc, a tank-chomping unholy fusion between terror bird and T. rex that needs several handlers just to point it at the right target. The ork squiggoth is essentially an ill-tempered diplodocus crossed with a war mammoth, and stupider and grumpier than the average ork. |
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Transformers: Animated: The series portrayal of the Dinobots are heavily influenced by the Generation 1 versions, though being more than often persuaded by villains to aid them. Out of the three, only Grimlock can speak, and he remains as much of a brute that barely thinks. | |
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Warhammer: The Lizardmen are generally portrayed as more intelligent than humans — at least in the case of the toad-like Slann and the lizard-like Skinks. The Saurus are intelligent enough and can produce gifted generals and tacticians, but they're extremely aggressive, too focused on warfare to be able to do much else, and prone to rampaging and berserk fury in battle. The gigantic, hulking Kroxigors are barely sapient brutes, mostly used as beasts of burden during peace and as Dumb Muscle during war. The actual dinosaurs the Lizardmen also use are classic example of hulking, dim-witted and aggressive brutes mindlessly eating their way through life. | |
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The New Dinosaurs: An Alternative Evolution was made during a transitionary period between the view that dinosaurs were moronic, evolutionary failures, and the dinosaur renaissance, and it shows. Nothing remotely as intelligent as modern day apes, corvids, elephants, or parrots appears, and the closing afterword poo-poos the idea that dinosaurs could ever evolve beyond being savage, instinct-driven beasts. The large predators in particular are depicted as being slow, unintelligent scavengers, such as the tyrannosaur-descended "gourmand". The gourmand has no arms at all and is too slow and heavy to pursue prey, instead scooping carcasses off the ground and relying on armor to defend itself from predatory dinosaurs. | |
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Doctor Who: Discussed in "Earthshock" in a scene featuring all the then current TARDIS crew except Adric, whose absence would have fateful consequences later in the story: | |
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Spyro the Dragon: The dinosaur enemies throughout the series are violent and not particularly bright. Crush and Gulp, Ripto's minions, are both Dumb Muscle and the former doesn't know how to operate a portal, although they are given the ability to talk in later games. Ripto himself is smarter and more competent than most, but is an Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain. | |
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Night at the Museum: While Rexie, the animated dinosaur skeleton, is one of the more animalistic exhibits in the movie, its behavior is more like a dog's and it is ultimately both nonthreatening and trainable. A Triceratops skeleton named Trixie is introduced in the third movie. While she's more aggressive than Rexie, Lancelot is ultimately able to train her. | |
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Zoo Tycoon: The herbivorous dinosaurs in both games don't bother to defend themselves from predators, even ones much smaller than they are. Averted in the second game with the carnivorous theropods Utahraptors and Stokesosaurus, who are smart enough to need enrichment items and like to paint. | |
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Gronk of B.C. is a sauropod-like dinosaur who's big but stupid, even though later strips gave him the ability to talk. Until then, he only spoke in roars ("GRONK!"). | |
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Dinosaurs: Terrible Lizards features heavily stylized dinosaurs (along with a pterosaur and an ichthyosaur) that obliviously wander the landscape, blunder straight into trouble, or inadvertently inconvenience everyone else. | |
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Transformers: Cyberverse: Grimlock is portrayed as a sophisticated and eloquent genius... In robot mode. When he changes to his beast mode, his personality shifts more towards the classic version of the character. When the other Dinobots debut, they are portrayed as young admirers of Grimlock and the only solution to any issue they can think of is "hit it hard", minus Swoop, who is instead portrayed as a Gadgeteer Genius constantly tired of their antics. | |
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The Wuzzles: Crocosaurus, the main villain, is a crocodile-dinosaur hybrid who is ignorant, a Lazy Bum, and a fairly Harmless Villain. | |
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One Million Years B.C.: The dinosaurs constantly fight the native cavepeople and one another in situations where normal animals would back off. | |
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In Dinosaur Adventure 3 D, none of the dinosaurs are treated as sapient aside from The Hero, a Parasaurolophus, his Pteranodon sidekick, and the baby dinosaurs they hatch (although only the former two speak). The others are presented as more animalistic, including the T. rex villain. Oddly, while other carnivorous dinosaurs are present in the story and are treated as part of the setting's ecosystem, only the T. rex is portrayed as an outright villain. | |
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Dinosaur Planet: The rampaging dinosaurs are ultimately a subversion — after their attack, they are smart enough to team up with the humans to defeat the giant robots who are really responsible for the invasion. | |
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The Japanese-original sequel Transformers Victory introduces the Dinoforce, a group of Decepticons with dinosaur Pretender shells that while a competent threat in the first episodes, Badass Decay leads them to this, becoming the series comic relief. Kakuryu moreso than the rest, who in Japanese manga from the 2010s fittingly defects to the Autobots and becomes a rookie Dinobot recruit. | |
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The Tick: Dinosaur Neil turns into a 70-foot-tall, human-faced dinosaur after accidentally consuming a re-created dinosaur tissue, but he loses his intelligence and goes on a rampage until the heroes reverse the mutation. Prior to this, Neil lectures to the visitors that large dinosaurs weren't very bright. | |
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In Dinosaurs Attack!, a reptilian alien describes the attacking dinosaurs as dumb, evil brutes who live only by instinct and lack the souls that humans have. The dinosaurs themselves don't exactly go out of their way to prove his description wrong — almost every time they appear, they're seen eating or maiming someone, including the plant-eaters. | |
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Rudy the Baryonyx and the mother T. rex in Dawn of the Dinosaurs are portrayed as a fair bit smarter than most — the T. rex eventually befriends the main characters while Rudy is smart enough to hold a mutual grudge with Buck. The Guanlong and pterosaurs, however, can be seen as dumb, mostly from their predatory instincts overriding their awareness of something unpleasant or fault happening. For instance, a pterosaur in the pack that chases Buck, Crash and Eddie would later kill himself when flying right up to the mammals due to his own instinct. Ironically, the Troodon (commonly viewed as intelligent) are depicted as total screwballs with googly eyes. | |
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Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers: Steggy, from "Prehysterical Pet", is a rodent-sized alien Stegosaurus who is normally intelligent, but when he starts growing in size due to eating Earth food his brain doesn't grow along with his body and his mind reverts to an animal-like state, which is also what happened with the stegosaurs and sauropods from his homeworld that came to Earth during the late Jurassic period. Both his intelligence and small size are restored when he eats the food he brought with him from his planet. | |
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Transformers: Generation 1: The Dinobots are very powerful, but also very stupid and difficult to control. Various adaptations since then have played with just how stupid they are, and in some cases their leader Grimlock is Obfuscating Stupidity or suffers from speech defects that make him sound more stupid than he really is. True to the trope, however, Sludge, the sauropod Dinobot, is the stupidest of the bunch. The Dinobots in any version have nothing on Soundwave's two dinosaur cassettes, Overkill (a Ceratosaurus) and Slugfest (a Stegosaurus). Overkill is, as his name suggests, prone to overdoing everything and getting himself in trouble. Slugfest, meanwhile, is not only dumber than a post, he perceives things that he can't understand (which is practically everything) as insults and immediately attacks them. The Decepticon Titan Trypticon, whose robot mode resembles a tyrannosaurus rex, also had this as his portrayal, acting childish and prone to violent tantrums of destruction. Unlike the Dinobots, this is the only portrayal that depicts him as such, though he's still often used as a brutish force of destruction. The Japanese-original sequel Transformers Victory introduces the Dinoforce, a group of Decepticons with dinosaur Pretender shells that while a competent threat in the first episodes, Badass Decay leads them to this, becoming the series comic relief. Kakuryu moreso than the rest, who in Japanese manga from the 2010s fittingly defects to the Autobots and becomes a rookie Dinobot recruit. Transformers: Animated: The series portrayal of the Dinobots are heavily influenced by the Generation 1 versions, though being more than often persuaded by villains to aid them. Out of the three, only Grimlock can speak, and he remains as much of a brute that barely thinks. Transformers: Prime: While Starscream mistakes Predaking, the setting's dinosaur equivalent, for a stupid animal, Predaking is a subversion — he's smart enough to operate a computer after watching Cybertronians do it, recognizes and avoids Wheeljack's Eat the Bomb tactic in battle, is capable of speech, and later reveals himself to be intelligent and eloquent. His species, the Predacons, are fully sapient. Transformers: Age of Extinction: The Dinobots can't speak in English or Cybertronian, generally seem pretty bestial, and are more violence-prone than the other Autobots. When they return briefly in the Transformers: The Last Knight, they behave more like domesticated animals. The toyline-exclusive character Slog (a renamed Sludge for trademark reasons) is described as the dumbest of them all, as is tradition. Transformers: Cyberverse: Grimlock is portrayed as a sophisticated and eloquent genius... In robot mode. When he changes to his beast mode, his personality shifts more towards the classic version of the character. When the other Dinobots debut, they are portrayed as young admirers of Grimlock and the only solution to any issue they can think of is "hit it hard", minus Swoop, who is instead portrayed as a Gadgeteer Genius constantly tired of their antics. |
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Cretaceous and Maelstrom in The Meltdown, identified as an ichthyosaur and pliosaur respectively, are more brutish and hungry forces of nature than characters. | |
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A Sound of Thunder: The T. rex is portrayed as a more-or-less mindless monster who attacks the time travelers even when badly wounded. It's described as monstrous and devoid of all emotion, but also as a majestic awe-provoking wonder. | |
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Dink, the Little Dinosaur follows the variant with sapient and friendly herbivores and stupid, vicious carnivores (with the exception of a nonthreatening Compsognathus and a vegetarian Deinonychus). | |
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