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In real life, a general cannot immediately give orders to a unit and have them react instantaneously. Messages have to be sent through The Chain of Command to colonels, majors and finally captains, lieutenants and corporals have to be reached, and finally the orders need to be received by the soldiers in the field. In some jurisdictions, the higher command such as a general ranks legally cannot give orders to privates in the field, and are bound to relay them to the commander of that specific operation. This is doubly true for ancient times. In strategy games, on the other hand, this doesn't happen. When you, the general, click the screen, the orders are instantly transmitted from thought to deeds by the soldiers. Its as if there's some kind of psychic hive-mind link from HQ to the unit receiving the order. Particularly jarring in ancient settings when a general can give orders to soldiers a town away. That general must have one hell of a loud voice, or a very good herald! Pre-radio militaries developed various methods to cope with this problem prior to the invention of radio telephony, such as trumpets, bugles, drums, fifes, flags, banners, and standards that modern militaries relegate to use on the parade grounds, but these were once genuinely used for transmitting signals. Even so, this cannot explain the rapidity and accuracy with which orders are carried out in most games. Some argue that if building a command center or a town hall in your average RTS takes 90 seconds tops, then order transmission times must have been scaled down by a similar factor. One could also take the view that the player is controlling the entire command structure rather than just the top level commander. Thus, the player giving orders to an unit on the other side of the world is the local commander taking action, for all that this local commander knows more about the overall state of affairs than they really should. Triply strange when the orders are relayed in an environment where receiving them would be very hard (dead zones, Bleak Border Base in a remote area, caves that block radio signals, stormy weather). And if the player has allies, those manage to feed them intelligence data (up to and including firing blind using only the allies' laser "target painting") with zero delays or misunderstanding. Yes, even in settings where these allies may be aliens, robots, foreigners etc., who you'd expect to have multiple language barriers (and sometimes the only communication between them story-wise being murdering each other). Admittedly this comes under Acceptable Breaks from Reality, as it would be annoying to wait for your orders to filter down through the proper chain of command. It's also justified in the vast majority of science-fiction settings where the author can invent an instant communication technology. What is less forgivable is when the soldiers seem to be completely dependent on the player for orders, sometimes not responding even when under fire from a long ranged unit. There are reasons for soldiers being designed this way: a unit could come under long-ranged fire, respond, and get lured into an ambush. But its still annoying to see your unit get whittled down to nearly no health because you happened to not be around to give the order and the unit just refuses to do anything to save itself. This tends to fall under Artificial Stupidity. The small-scale variation of this which pops up in Tactical Shooters is Squad Controls; generally more justifiable, as the squad tend to be within the PC's earshot/eyeline, but can raise questions if you're playing a Stealth-Based Mission. Closely related to Easy Logistics. Much like Command & Conquer Economy only this applies to units instead of buildings being dependent on the players orders. Usually, all three tropes will be present together. |
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Justified in Starcraft for the Zerg and Protoss factions because it is explicitly a psychic link. Also might be justified for the Terran faction - the lower units like marines, firebats etc., who are brainwashed, drugged soldiers in power armor. The higher units like armors, fliers etc. are experienced and ranked. Actually, whenever you select multiple units, one of them (the one with the highest rank) is selected as a "command unit", which communicates with you. And it is in the future with rather few units (max 12 units get commands at the same time) - radio is quite fine for that, especially when you consider that there is hardly any cover and that taking cover with a ton heavy walking behemoth is not all that easy or practical for most cases. And for heroes, it can be presumed they are making their own judgements. The Terrans use Adjutants to control their troops, so it's not infeasible that, in fact, the commander's interface literally looks like an RTS and the AI relays orders. For example, when the commander "selects" a marine and then "selects" an enemy to attack, what actually happens is that the Adjutant translates it into orders communicated through the marine's Power Armor, via either voice or even by highlighting said enemy on the helmet's HUD. The real question here is who controls the units through the "RTS" overview screen in Starcraft II when Raynor is a playable unit on the battlefield, because the player is explicitly Raynor himself rather than some Non-Entity General. Usually, missions with Raynor as a playable unit involve him personally leading a small unit. He could just be literally ordering his squad around verbally. | |
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Ditto for the iOS port of Master of Orion called Starbase Orion. Unlike the original game, which played this trope straight (and justified it by having Subspace Ansibles), the port only allows you to give behavioral orders prior to the battle and initial targets. So you can tell all your ships to kill a specific enemy ship first, but after that they use their behavior settings to determine the next target. If a battle happens to run longer than a certain time limit, you are given the option of amending the orders for the next turn. You also may not redirect your fleets in FTL, although you may hire a leader who is a master at communications, granting you this (buggy) ability. | |
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A narrative rather than gameplay example: Tales of Berseria, being a High Fantasy, has no telecommunications, and the ability to travel faster than conventional means is effectively nonexistent. Combine this with the near-world-dominating Abbey being quite happy to suppress information, and news travels very slowly. Velvet's team exploits this; for the first third of the game, despite being extremely distinctive, they're able to travel pretty much unquestioned because they keep ahead of news of the havoc they've been wreaking, Facial Composite Failure is in effect, or their targets have been so classified the Abbey isn't even willing to tell their own rank and file about a given incident. This is also why Aifread's pirates can keep operating despite the Abbey having total control of the shipping lanes. They have the loyalty of a flock of Sylphjays, birds which act as perfectly reliable message carriers. Compared to how hard it is to otherwise get a message out to a ship at sea, the pirate fleet can coordinate and run rings around any patrols. |
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Some of the Fire Emblem games (particularly 7, 12, 13, and 14) make the commander an entity to represent the player who can issue someone orders from any distance. Most of the other games simply make the player a Non-Entity General (though FE 4 has the oddity of units cross country coordinating). | |
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The Generals series added an auto-retaliation option that let players allow their units to attack enemies who engaged them from outside their sight range. Being able to rapidly communicate with the soldiers is actually justified in the setting by the EVA units relaying orders quickly and decisively to the troops in the field. | |
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Averted in Dawn of War: Soulstorm, where the Pathfinders supposed to be looking for the breach in the Tau base (you) don't report back, leading to the Tau concentrating their attacks on the last known transmission (which apparently wasn't "ARGH HELP"). This from the race that has pinpoint orbital attack satellites. | |
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Europa Universalis IV is rather inconsistent in regards to your agents (Merchants, Colonists, Generals, Missionaries and Diplomats). Traders take a certain amount of time to reach a trade center depending on distance of the trade node to your capital, and a similar thing occurs with Colonists. Generals can be instantly assigned to and switched between armies no matter how distant they are, and similarly your missionaries will instantly start converting heretic or heathen provinces anywhere in your empire. Diplomats will instantly deliver messages and alliances but take a certain amount of time to come back based on the distance between the two capitals. | |
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Warhammer: Dark Omen has the variant where you can command units normally, but once engaged in melee the only way to get them out is if one side or the other breaks. You can deliberately order a unit to break, which is generally a very bad idea considering that routing units take large losses and are nigh irreplaceable. | |
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In Graviteam Tactics, the command system simulates wire and radio communications as a prerequisite for orders to be carried out correctly. Commanders of on-map artillery need communications links back to their guns if they want to direct fire on visible targets. Some platoons now have a dedicated wire-laying squad to establish wire links. Certain vehicles may use a limited range radio, or just a radio receiver in lieu of a regular radio. | |
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The non-responsiveness problem is averted in Warcraft III: not only are units able to acquire and attack on their own, the "autocast" feature means that they will use certain abilities whenever appropriate. For instance, a Priest left alone with a group of units would automatically heal any injuries. The autoretaliation debuted in Warcraft II, if not the first; it also had the feature of an attacking unit revealing itself through the Fog of War. Also, Blizzard RTS games were some of the first to implement a "Hold Position" order, where a unit would stay in one spot and engage anything that came into range, but would not leave its position if attacked from range. This was useful if you were massing forces for an attack and didn't want them getting pulled into battle prematurely by enemy units trying to kite them into an ambush. And averted during one of the Undead levels where there's an optional quest to kill an elf from Sylvanas' base trying to Bring News Back to Silvermoon. By game mechanics this would be redundant, as your adjutant unit warns you when your allies are in battle. The expansion's orc campaign is kicked off when Rexxar encounters a dying orc and agrees to deliver his scouting report to Thrall. Gameplay and Story Segregation again, since you can always see what the unit does. |
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For the King: Quest-related NPCs can somehow have conversations with each other and the Player Characters cross-country when events are triggered, despite the pseudo-medieval setting. PCs still need to meet NPCs or deliver messages in person when quests demand it — perhaps the reception is spotty. | |
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Age of Empires II had the defensive orders, which were useful if you wanted a unit to not stray too far away from a position. Unfortunately, some hostile units could fire further than the distance the defensive unit was scripted to respond to aggressively. The result was that the unit would just stand there and get peppered to death. If you order peasants to build a building, and they are fired upon while doing so, they'll walk away until they're out of range, then return to try to construct the building again. If you order a dozen peasants to work on the same building, often they'll be able construct the building before they all die. But if there's only one or two peasants, often they'll just walk back and forth, getting shot at, without ever doing any work on the building, until they die. |
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Though not a strategy game, this is gratuitously played straight in the Warriors series (Dynasty Warriors et al), where hostile commanders can apparently have a real-time conversation from opposite ends of a raging battlefield. | |
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In Sword of the Stars Humans and Zuul cannot relay orders to fleets in nodespace because the signals wouldn't be able to catch up to the ships in time. The Tarka need to research a specific technology before they are able to communicate with ships in transit. Inside of battles, ships often take time to respond to orders (though this is more due to physical concerns rather than delays in communication) and can be set to a number of stances that limit or increase their personal initiative. However, human and Zuul ships can enter battle in nodespace, which means you can still give them orders while they're a non-entity in real space. It's also mentioned in the manual that interstellar communication is far from instantaneous for most of the races. The Hivers and the Tarka are able to do so via their Portal Network and Subspace Ansible, respectively. Humans have to leave relay bouys near the nodes in order to re-transmit messages through nodespace. Of course, that still means that it takes a long time for a message to be sent even two systems away (if nodes are located far from each other). The Liir use "stutter-probes" to record audio-messages using their Fleetsong battle language and send them to their destination. Since the probes are much smaller than ships, they can teleport much faster (of course, how do you send a probe to a ship teleporting at FTL speeds).note Technically, neither is moving at FTL at all. They just teleport minute distances really, really fast, and the comm probes can do it even faster. The Zuul and the Morrigi don't really get an explanation for how they're able to do interstellar communications. There's also the issue of Command And Control facilities during battle. If all your CnC ships present are crippled or destroyed, your reinforcements start arriving at a trickle, and you lose the ability to issue commands from the tactical overlay, forcing you to more or less eyeball weapon ranges, asteroid blind spots, ect. |
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Knights of Honor subverts the second half of this trope with your knights who will charge any unit within range, this can get grisly as entire groups of knights fall to the pitchforks of rabble. This is actually quite historically accurate in some medieval armies. Knights, particularly French knights, were notoriously impetuous, and several battles in history were lost due to undisciplined, glory-hungry knights insisting on being the first into battle. The French knights at Agincourt and Crecy were notorious for this. | |
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The first Red Alert had an interesting case: most units would not auto-acquire targets unless set to "guard", and would never auto-acquire a building (although this is so they don't destroy anything you wanted to steal). Worse, a particular elite unit, Tanya, could never be put into guard mode, and had to be directed for every shot - but, with her healthy range and high damage against infantry, she needed something to hinder her. This will actually become extremely frustrating in one particular Allies mission, which is filled with fast-running dogs that come in packs. Hope you're a fast clicker or you'll be seeing that mushroom cloud quite a lot. | |
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The EVA units of Command & Conquer are noted as simplifying command of troops in the field, helping to justify that part of this trope in Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn, and, by extension, Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun.note But not Firestorm, where the Brotherhood has no problems commanding units in the field for those two missions where neither CABAL nor a stolen EVA unit is available. | |
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In Centurion: Defender of Rome, during battles you can only change the orders of the units who are within the leader's range of voice (and each leader has a different one). | |
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Total Annihilation and its Spiritual Successor Supreme Commander justify this - the entire army is robotic, so nigh-instant communications and perfect discipline are to be expected. They also partially avert the 'standing around uselessly' part of the trope - they will fire back at any unit in range unless ordered not to. | |
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In Ender's Game, the Formics were like this due to a Hive Mind, and humans compensated by learning how to create instant communication technology. Ender in fact commented on how the game he was playing was unrealistic because of the instant communication, when unbeknownst to him, it was actually real. Bean realizes the game is real for this very reason in a later book, but never informs others. It also does filter through a chain of command, albeit brief, once he started training with his squad leaders. This is usually not a problem. In Ender's Shadow, Bean first realizes the truth after an instructor asks him about a book Bean supposedly checked out from the Battle School library involving ancient battle tactics of building multiple layers of defense structures. Bean, having used the book as a cover and only skimmed it (he has eidetic memory, though), tries to justify his interest in it, only to realize that it's nigh-impossible to defend a planet without a truly massive fleet (which the Buggers actually have), so the only viable option to humans is attack. | |
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Warhammer 40,000 has sufficient squad-level comms, elite squad leaders, telepathic links and the like to keep their units coordinated, although how Orks handle it beyond "shouting a lot" is anyone's guess (no really, they're known to use orks with particularly loud voices to relay orders). Hilariously averted with one Apocalypse stratagem, however; it prevents players on a team from talking to each other while deploying, meaning that while the troops will be under control during the game, a fair number will be badly out of position because of where your ally put their tanks. Averted in Dawn of War: Soulstorm, where the Pathfinders supposed to be looking for the breach in the Tau base (you) don't report back, leading to the Tau concentrating their attacks on the last known transmission (which apparently wasn't "ARGH HELP"). This from the race that has pinpoint orbital attack satellites. |
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While usually played straight in Warhammer, with the exception of fleeing units, the Orcs and Goblins are an aversion - while they will usually do what you decide they should, most units in the list have a special rule that makes them periodically ignore your orders and settle down to kick each other for a while. | |
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Usually played straight in Empire Earth, being an RTS, but one level has an in-universe justification where you send a spy to give the enemy fake movement orders, redirecting fuel supplies to prevent them from building units. | |
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Total War is particularly vulnerable to Fridge Logic regarding this. A group of highly impetuous knights that are completely embroiled in a chaotic mix of friendly and hostile forces will, at the orders of a general half a battlefield away, break off, reform (a very difficult task for cavalry) and then can be ordered by the same general to circle round the enemy army and attack from the rear. The units in this game also don't respond when under missile attack, but in this case its justified as a group of infantry suddenly charging out to attack some archers would throw a players strategy out of kilter and possibly result in the loss of the battle. The second half of the trope is subverted in the case of units with the Impetuous trait (usually knights and similar elite units), who can decide to charge the enemy on their own. They invariably do so when least convenient to the player - isn't it just swell when the linchpin of your defensive line leaves a gaping hole in it in order to charge some dirty peasants halfway across the field? Truth in Television, too: that's pretty much how the French lost Crécy. Some units will also refuse to break off while pursuing targets, which can wreck things if you need those Feudal Knights to rush over and guard your archers from enemy cavalry, or you need to get your Scottish Highlanders around the enemy to flank those soldiers who are winning the battle against your dismounted knights. |
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In the original Dune (1992) PC game, initially you have to travel places to check on progress or issue orders, but as Paul's psychic ability increases you can contact outposts from further away, only becoming limitless after a forced plot evolution. The Dune universe does have a weird alternative to radio, but that isn't used either. | |
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Interestingly played with in Achron: giving units commands in the past or the future costs chronoenergy. This leads to an interesting game mechanic of assigning units commanders to create chains of command: you can minimize chronoenergy expenditure by just giving orders to commanders and letting them communicate your orders to their underlings. | |
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Dominions probably comes as close to averting this as possible. Instead of commanding your soldiers in battle, you give orders (formation, battle plan, spells to cast, contingencies, etc…) to each unit in a region, and they then carry out the battle automatically whenever they attack or are attacked. In addition, if you want any information to base your plans on, you must scout out a region, organize an attack, and hope your intelligence is still good by the time it launches. To get reliable intel is almost impossible without special spies that not every nation has access to or spells that costs valuable magic gems. Some scrying spells even risk your casting mage's mind. | |
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MechCommander and its sequel have orders being issued and followed instantaneously. However, this is revealed to be an aspect of the software and the command setup. In both instances, the player is a company commander, but can assign orders to any unit because of the explicit use of real-time satellite communications between the Mechcommander officer and the unit being controlled—the opening not only has Commander Harrison talking the leader of his unit to relay orders, but also to individual pilots when he splits them up. This becomes Fridge Brilliance when Mechcommander is played alongside a contemporary MechWarrior game—the move orders of Mechcommander are the equivalent of assigned navigation waypoints in Mechwarrior, while issuing new attack or defend orders is simply the equivalent of getting new mid-mission objectives as a pilot. | |
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Faction leaders in Brütal Legend giver orders to their units by shouting, and this has a limited range. A significant portion of multiplayer combat involves flying to and fro in the battlefield and giving commands. There are two universal commands: the Rally Army solo, which summons all units via The Power of Rock, and the Rally Flag, which creates a flag for newly created units to seek. | |
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Both blatantly displayed and averted in Evony. On one hand, you can apparently receive news from players miles away instantly. In the medieval world. On the other hand, armies take realistic amounts of time to travel from place to place. (A real headache for alliances whose members are not close together.) | |
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The squad sergeants in Full Spectrum Warrior respond quickly, getting their orders over radio, but there's still a delay as they need to verbally relay those orders to their fireteams before they move or shift fire. | |
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Averted in Gratuitous Space Battles. You can design the ships, giving them whatever weapons, engines, etc. you think will be most useful or economical, you choose what ships to deploy to the battlefield, their starting formations, and can even give each ship some general orders like "Stick Together" or "Stay near this ship" or "Retreat when badly damaged" or whatever. Once you hit the start button though, you can either sit back to watch the show, or go out for a beer, as either method will have equal impact on the battle. It can be maddening to watch some of your ships do something mind-bogglingly stupid and have no ability at all to tell them about it. | |
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Majesty averts this by not giving you direct control of "your" units at all - the best you can do is to post bounties for exploring locations or killing monsters, and whether the various heroes respond to them will depend on their own stats, morale, character type, and whether the bounty is sufficient to cover the effort involved. On the other hand, they'll respond to bounties as soon as you post them, so it's still in effect to some degree. | |
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