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Enlightened self-interest is a concept in ethics that doing things that benefit others also provides tangible benefits to the do-gooder. Whether it's a big corporation sponsoring their local PBS station, getting ad time and a tax write-off in exchange for helping provide a public service, a nation-state providing humanitarian aid to another in hopes of later reciprocation, or just ordinary people trading favors, the idea is relatively simple: you do well by doing good. It differs from pure altruism in that the do-gooder is actively seeking tangible future benefits (i.e. they're not being selfless), but is still usually on the optimistic side of the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism. Bread and Circuses is this trope applied to The Empire's management of its own populace, treating them well so they won't rebel. A Hegemonic Empire may be formed through a nation practicing this trope. Heaven Seeker is a related concept in religion, if the character's main reason for believing is to avoid damnation in the afterlife. Compare The Golden Rule, where you treat others the way you want to be treated. Contrast Realpolitik, where nations do underhanded things to serve their own self-interest. Contrast also Selfless Wish and Keep the Reward, both of which involve a character doing something without seeking repayment. May overlap with Pragmatic Villainy and Jerk with a Heart of Jerk in cases where the villain/jerk helps the heroes because their interests coincide with his own, or with Nominal Hero when the hero makes a decision to act heroically because it advances his interests rather than because it's "right". See also Secretly Selfish, for when an otherwise altruistic character has an unexamined (or not) selfish ulterior motive. Do not confuse this with Friends with Benefits as, despite what the trope name says, is part of Sex Tropes. |
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Rihannsu: The Romulan concept of honor, mnhei'sahe ("the Ruling Passion") can align with this. Your actions are supposed to be taken in service to you and your own honor first and foremost, but ideally the action will benefit everyone else involved as well. The conflict of the book series is driven mainly by the fact that the political leadership of the Star Empire has forgotten or ignored the second part of that statement. | |
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In the Confederation of Valor novels, the Confederation gave the humans, Taykans, Krai, and Silsviss tech bumps in exchange for becoming their warrior races for the war with the Others. | |
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In Puella Magi Madoka Magica, most of the Puella Magis who made a wish with Kyubey think of this when they make their wish: they wished for someone to prosper so that they will somehow benefit from it as well. The common source of despair in this series is that they often don't get those benefits in the end since they fail to think through the implications of their wish. | |
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In Star Trek Online, Chancellor J'mpok's motivation for throwing the Klingon Empire's support behind D'Tan's Romulan Republic is that it's a way to conquer one of the Empire's bitterest foes, the Romulans, without firing a shot: they get the Republic as allies and hurt the still-hostile Romulan Star Empire. | |
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In The Truce at Bakura, the Rebel Alliance intervenes in an Alien Invasion of the Imperial planet Bakura despite having suffered heavy casualties mere days earlier at the Battle of Endor. Getting an Imperial world to switch sides so soon after Emperor Palpatine's death would have enormous propaganda value, and moreover, Bakura is a mid-scale supplier of repulsorlift engines and components, a Boring, but Practical and rather important strategic resource. | |
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Because the author of Heralds of Valdemar espouses pragmatism as among the highest of virtues, usually when anyone helps another person they also point out that they're helping themselves (and the exceptions are usually compelled to do so by angels and seen as strange, even incomprehensible, by others). Tarma and Kethry are compelled by Need to go to the rescue of [[Damsel in Distress damsels in distress and are usually then paid for it, complaining heartily whenever they're not; helping also allows their fame to grow, which is beneficial to Tarma's cause. Kethry's granddaughter Kero refuses Need's call unless she does get paid, and rescues a Herald after ascertaining that his people will cut her a check for doing so. In Take a Thief Queen Selenay mandates that children are educated and given free breakfast, because an educated populace is better for the health of the kingdom and children learn better when fed. In the same book there's also a negligent, poisoned example - Skif's uncle and cousin feed him and give him shelter expressly so that he can give them free labor at their bottom-tier tavern, but the conditions they keep him in are terrible and he's often beaten. When Nyara runs away from her evil father in Winds of Fate she sees that he's caught some uplifted antelope in a trap and frees them, listing her reasons to herself - she just wants to foil him, it seems like a good thing to do, and if she helps them they and their allies might help her in turn. |
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In Huff's short story A Woman's Work, the Evil Overlady builds hospitals and schools for her citizens, as this makes her popular and less likely to be assassinated. It also enables her to influence what the kids are taught, and who gets to be healed. | |
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Rise of the White Sun pits you as a Chinese warlord in the 1920s. All the social reforms, curbing of corruption, fighting bandits, setting up schools, even propping up a banking system... are done for the sake of firmly staying in power in the area you control and having an easier time getting loyal, well-armed soldiers for your personal armies, to further strengthen your rule. The game doesn't even try to hide it, stating in various event and info blurbs the cynical reasons for which various things are done or how your regime is twisting them for its own needs. | |
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Chiefs: Sonny Butts' interest in capturing the pedophiliac Serial Killer who has plagued the county for decades peaks when he realizes that such a high-profile arrest might be enough to keep him from being fired over the suspicious death of one of his prisoners. | |
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Honor Harrington: In The Honor of the Queen, the Star Kingdom of Manticore gives a massive tech bump to Grayson and several other planets at great expense and financial risk (huge Crown loans that may or may not ever be repaid) because they need allies and forward operating bases for the upcoming war with Haven. Haven did essentially the same thing, although because of their bad reputation, they frequently had to settle for worse options like Masada (they would've preferred Grayson but the Manties got there first and Protector Benjamin was distrustful of their track record anyway), to whom they gave a City-class destroyer and a Sultan-class battlecruiser. The Anderman Empire is known for realpolitik (they're modeled after Prussia, which codified the concept), but they're just as known for expanding their empire by helping out planets in need. This was in fact how they got their start when mercenary Gustav Anderman (who thought he was the reincarnation of Frederick the Great) happened across the struggling planet Kuan Yin and fixed their problem with native microbes killing Terran crops in exchange for their crowning him Emperor and renaming the planet Potsdam. |
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In The Numair Chronicles, trainee healers are required to volunteer in poor hospitals during plagues in order to get their credentials. When Arram helps at one such hospital during a cholera outbreak, several such trainees are with him and he finds that that requirement is the only reason many of them are involved at all; they have no compassion for the impoverished to speak of. Arram himself is more compassionate, but he does benefit from practicing his skills and learning about aspects of the world that exists outside of the university. | |
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Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum: Once Draco realizes that his only "friends" Crabbe and Goyle would abandon him the moment his father lost his influence and/or money, he starts going out of his way to act friendly towards younger students, especially the first two years who have minimal exposure to him. Over the course of months, he gains support from people who genuinely like him, or at least believe he can help them with their problems. His growth is best characterized when his father rages about Fudge blackmailing everyone bribing him. Lucius wants to have Fudge killed and believes the other lords would support him. Draco knows that doing so to a minister gearing up for a war against dark wizards would make the man a martyr and the other lords would throw Lucius to the bloodthirsty crowds in order to save themselves. | |
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The Genius Prince's Guide to Raising a Nation Out of Debt (Hey, How About Treason?): Prince Wein is the acting regent of the impoverished kingdom of Natra and his soldiers are technically loyal to his father and the country rather than himself, so he has to be a benevolent ruler if he wants to avoid a coup and slowly gain their loyalty. He plans to use their eventual loyalty to convince them to allow the Earthworld Empire to annex Natra, allowing him to retire. He also has to choose the most diplomatic means of solving problems because using too much military force will send his country's budget into the red. | |
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Community episode "Advanced Gay" has Racist Grandpa Pierce Hawthorne embrace the fact that Hawthorne Wipes has become an icon in the gay community. Mostly because of the increased profits. | |
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With This Ring: Enlightened Self-Interest is a main idea of Paul's philosophy for the Orange Lantern Corps. The better an Orange Lantern understands the reasoning behind their desires, the better they can act upon them. Especially in the interest of furthering the Corps' interests, of which an ethical approach to their goals is mandated. Self-actualization and Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs also apply. As explained in part 4 of the story: | |
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Judge Dee has a scene where Ma Jong is talking with two casino guards, one of them explaining that the place remains stable and prosperous thanks to the three major merchants (the casino owner, an antiques dealer, and a whorehouse owner) recognizing that it's better to make less money in the short term by working with the other two (if a player loses big, he can always sell off an antique or a concubine, if he wins big, he'll want to exchange it for something easier to carry around or a more visible status symbol) than get rich quick via dishonest dealings. | |
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In a number of interviews, Jimmy Savile was asked why he did so much charity work. His response was so that, when he died, he would be able to show St. Peter the list of all the lives he changed, all the money he raised for charity, and he believed this would outweigh any sins he had committed. This justification took a horrifying turn when he was exposed as one of Britain's most prolific pedophiles and sexual abusers after his death. Worse, his charity work had also helped him cultivate a positive public image, and horrifyingly even gain access to many of his victims. | |
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In the first season Blue Bloods episode "Officer Down", The Mafia helps out when the NYPD goes on a Cop Killer Manhunt against a suspect with mafia ties. Grandpa Henry Reagan explains that when he was on the force the five families actually had explicit rules that cops were off-limits because dead officers are even worse for business than live ones. | |
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In The Irregular at Magic High School, Tatsuya gives Masaki (a piece of the) weaponry that could effortlessly make him a war hero. Tatsuya does this because, aside from their country being in danger on multiple fronts, he is currently the target of a media swarm that makes it impossible for him and his fiancee to leave the house. Masaki's new status as a celebrity, which he minds much less than Tatsuya did, diverts the journalists' interest. | |
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A rather important theme of The Lost Fleet series, as recently-defrosted Human Popsicle John Geary struggles against the Alliance Navy's habitual disregard of the laws and customs of war. The Syndicate Worlds treated its prisoners of war poorly even from the beginning, which led to retaliation by the Alliance, which led to retaliation by the Syndics... rinse and repeat for a century of all-out war. Geary frames his argument for breaking this cycle in terms of this trope and is ultimately proven right: At one point late in the series, a group of his subordinates who were briefly captured by the enemy report that some Syndicate Space Marines disobeyed orders to kill them before they could be rescued explicitly in return for Geary having refused to Sink the Lifeboats during a previous engagement. | |
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In Codex Alera, this is mentioned word-for-word to be the reason why Invidia Aquitaine makes and maintains her alliance with Isana. The problem is that she's not as enlightened as she thinks she is, and tends to underestimate the intelligence of others. This causes her to betray other people on a number of occasions when she thinks it is in her self-interest to do so, only to find they've predicted it and she's just put herself in a much worse position than if she'd kept her word. | |
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In One for All and Eight for the Ninth, Izuku berates Rikiya Yotsubashi, the Quirkist owner of Detnerat, over his company's policy of denying services to Quirkless people. Other industrialists witness this and realize that Quirkless people (who form 20 percent of the population) represent a large, relatively untapped market, so they begin to work with the few companies that are still largely working to make products for them, which allows them to make a lot of money while getting great publicity. | |
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Comes up a few times in Miracle on 34th Street: In Kris' role as the mall Santa Claus, rather than push Macy's overstocked toys on visitors as he's been told to do, he tells them where they can go to get what they actually want, even if it's some other store. When Mr. Macy realizes the unorthodox practice has boosted consumer confidence and actually increased business, he has it implemented in every department of every store in the city. When their chief competitor notices all the good publicity Macy's is getting, they respond by implementing the same practice in every store nationwide. Taking this trope to its most comical extreme, this eventually becomes an Escalating War between Macy's and its main competitor. By the time it's over, the two stores are fighting each other for which one can donate medical supplies to a local retirement home. It happens again during Kris' hearing when the judge is reluctant to rule against "Santa Claus" since he knows the public backlash will likely cost him reelection. He therefore allows a lot of leeway for the defense's Courtroom Antics. Also, the post office workers sending the letters to Kris (which won his case) weren't trying to show their support, they just wanted to clear out the dead-letter office. Even the prosecutor can't bring himself to stand up to the Courtroom Antics that much, complaining that the newspapers are making him out to be a heartless monster. He's afraid if he's too earnest in trying to convict "Santa Claus" it would break his son's heart. |
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In Time Enough for Love, Lazarus Long observes, "Never appeal to a man's 'better nature'. He may not have one. Invoking his self-interest gives you more leverage." | |
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Shen Yuan decides early on in SV Wishes to be kind to Shen Qingqiu's put-upon servant/apprentice Luo Binghe. While Shen Yuan does have sympathy for the mistreated boy, he mostly does it to have a loyal ally in an unfamiliar environment and to prevent Luo Binghe from having justification to betray him. | |
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Basically every The Legend of Zelda game ever has Link doing sidequests for people and being rewarded with Heart Containers or other useful items. Taken even further in The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, where doing these quests results in their gratitude crystallizing, and taking these physical emotions to a demonic-looking man under the city dispels his curse (and he rewards you with larger wallets). | |
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BioShock doesn't mention the concept by name, but deals with it (unsurprisingly, as it's largely a critique of Objectivism, mentioned under Literature and Real Life). Like Ayn Rand, Andrew Ryan seems to dismiss the notion offhand, refusing to contract any kind of social benefits or safety nets in Rapture. On the other hand, gangster Frank Fontaine builds poorhouses and other amenities for the poverty-stricken inhabitants of the city, and consequently when he decides to rise up against Ryan, he's got a veritable army on his side. Both of these cynical viewpoints are counterbalanced by Dr. Tenenbaum, who genuinely wants to help both the victims of Rapture. | |
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Villainess Level 99: Yumiella Dolkness, the titular level 99 "villainess", arrives at the Royal Academy of the Kingdom of Valschein. Because of her Past-Life Memories of this universe from a video game she loved to play, she knows is in the body of the hidden Super Boss, destined to be killed at the end of the game. As a result, she worked hard from age 5 to 16 to make sure she would survive. This results in her arriving at the academy already level 99, unlike in the original game when this leveling up happens later, and shocking everyone as no one has ever come close to level 99 in the entire recorded history. After three consecutive events demonstrating she isn't lying about her strengthnote She casually smacks away one dismissive student in a physical combat class, destroys a magical tool easily that only a court mage should be able to destroy, and when the Prince in her class still thinks she is lying, she gets him to accept responsibility for her next demonstration: a gigantic black hole which could destroy the capital city the King and Queen of Valschein summon her for an audience. After one final test from them, which involves facing the Captain of the Royal Guards but not being allowed to attack and demonstrating her level by effortlessly dodging his swing by curtsying, they apologize for the behavior of their son and the staff of the school for disbelieving her. They also have their highest court mage examine her magic and explain to the gathered nobles and soldiers that her rare Dark magic isn't inherently evil and could be used for good just like any other magic could be used for malice. Yumiella recognizes their intention is both an apology and an appeasement: as a level 99, she is a One-Woman Army and they want her to help fight the Demon Lord (which would be reborn in a few years), but if she doesn't join then not leave the country to another place and become their ally. Since they're the first people who are good to her for her entire life, Yumiella accepts their apology and becomes an ally to them. | |
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Big Miracle: Everyone, from big oil companies to environmental non-profits to individual characters, working to help save the whales is not doing it out of genuine altruism but rather to further their own self-interest and because they each have something to gain out of it (for most of them, it's because it serves as good PR). Nonetheless, none of these characters are truly bad people and their efforts ultimately go towards a good deed. | |
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The Crowded Room: Rya admits her aid to Danny also helps herself, as she could prove DID is a real disorder, getting grant money for research doing so, even using the term. | |
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In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Whom Gods Destroy", the insane Garth tries to convince Kirk and Spock that they should be friends (with the implication that the other option would be "or I kill you"). | |
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In Magic: The Gathering selfishness is Black's main ideological point. Quite a few characters have realised their self-interest can be best achieved with cooperation, such as Liliana Vess during her tenure in the Gatewatch or Sorin Markov in the many crises he ended up saddled with. This can also show up in Blue and Green, the former being the color most associated with rationality (so for instance even the most dispassionate like Amonkhet's Kefnet see the benefits of protecting others) and the latter with the greater picture (like Vivien Reid helping humanity and civilisation even if she otherwise couldn't be gladder if they died). | |
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In The Outer Worlds, Sanjar Nandi is a rare example of an intelligent Honest Corporate Executive in a setting where almost every corporate higher-up is either corrupt, incompetent or a combination of both. His corporation espouses such values as worker's rights and not putting profits over lives, with Sanjar noting that not only are happy and healthy workers more productive, his employees also happen to be his customers so it's in his best interest to keep them happy. | |
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Warhammer 40,000: This is the theory behind the Tau Empire's philosophy of the Greater Good, that multiple species can work together and still attain their own goals. For example, the Kroot seek new enemies to diversify their genetic material, so they work with the Tau as frontline troops to get plenty of meat and DNA. Like every slightly positive aspect of 40K, it's best not examined too closely, as it's possible the Tau use mind-control devices to make sure their allies don't forget about the "benefits everyone" part. Commissar Cain note HERO OF THE IMPERIUM! claims that this is why he treats his soldiers with respect and at least appears to care for their lives: Commissars that are too unpopular and maintain order through fear and summary executions tend to find themselves on the wrong end of lasguns carried by the people they terrorized. Of course, whether he's being coldly pragmatic or a Humble Hero is all up for debate. |
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Alastor from Hazbin Hotel says upfront to Charlie that her plan with the Hotel is unlikely to work, but since it sounds like a fun idea for a reality show he may as well become the Big Good with no strings attached. | |
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Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End: The vote to decide the Pirate King is resolved by this. Historically, every Pirate Lord has voted for themselves, and so there has never been a Pirate King; during the vote in the film, the same thing happens for every Pirate Lord who casts their vote before Jack Sparrow. Jack, however, wants the Pirate Lords to sail to war, a decision that can only be made by the Pirate King — and since one of the other Pirate Lords has demonstrated her agreement with that course of action, Jack casts his vote for Elizabeth Swann after she sarcastically votes for herself in protest of the short-sighted stupidity of the other Pirate Lords refusing to act to save themselves, giving her two votes to everyone else's single and naming her Pirate King. | |
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The protagonists of Safehold tend to lampshade those occasions when doing the politically expedient thing coincides with also doing the right thing. Specific examples include providing much-needed food to the civil war-torn Republic of Siddarmark, which also nets them an equally much-needed mainland ally, and not assassinating the Earl of Thirsk, which is decided both because he's a Worthy Opponent who deserves better and because removing him presents the risk of someone less willing to oppose the Inquisition replacing him. | |
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Death Note Special Chapter: When Minoru Tanaka receives the Death Note, he uses it to make himself rich rather than using its instant kill abilities, since the former can be done legally and risk-free. When he auctions off the Death Note, he has the money divided among everyone with a Yotsuba Bank of Japan savings account under the age of 60. This is an acceptable sacrifice to protect his anonymity since he will still get 1 billion yen anyway. At least until the Shinigami King writes a new rule forbidding the sale of the Death Note, resulting in Minoru dying at the end of the manga despite his efforts to avoid conflict. | |
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League of Legends has Renata Glasc, the Chem-Baroness, who effectively controls the city of Zaun via her corporate stranglehold on its various industries in concert with well-calculated acts of charity. Years ago, Zaun was caught up in a massive chemical disaster, and Glasc Industries took the opportunity to distribute free breathers to help the population recover, skyrocketing their reputation as a reliable source of quality while feeding Renata's endless hunger for power and wealth. | |
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In Beware of Chicken The Lord Magistrate of Verdant Hill is a first-rate administrator and leader, whose fair, compassionate, and visionary rule brings peace and prosperity to his small corner of the Empire and universal acclaim from his subjects. Secretly, the reason he goes above and beyond for his people is that he craves the attention and praise along with the tangible benefits to his safety and comfort that come from being secure in his position and well-liked by everyone around him. | |
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In When Reason Fails, there's not much room for selflessness and altruism among Initiates, but they are willing to help each other, for a price. This price can be as cheap as providing entertainment, like what Shoto gets from Izuku's Cabal in exchange for helping them out, to as expensive as braving a dangerous area to get rare materials in exchange for alchemical drugs. | |
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A Rabbit Among Wolves: After undeservedly gaining a reputation as a brutal murderer, Jaune proceeds to reform the White Fang, give charity to the poor, and attack Vale's corrupt institutions. Jaune has no genuine desire to do any of these things at first, but wants to improve his reputation. Realizing that Jaune is crafting a benevolent image for himself, Ozpin responds with his own PR campaign to help discredit the White Fang and enhance Beacon's reputation. Ruby notes with some frustration that Vale's attempts to help the faunus isn't being done out of altruism, but to discredit Jaune himself. |
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In Madam Secretary, title character Elizabeth McCord often appeals to enlightened self-interest as leverage to achieve policy goals that for her are altruistic. In "The Call" she tries to get President Dalton and his chief of staff Russell Jackson on board with stopping genocide in Africa with the idea that doing so protects a supply of bauxite (aluminum ore, for non-geologists). Subverted in that she's clearly grasping at straws, which Jackson lampshades, and she gives up on that approach. In "Face the Nation" she and Mike B get a nonprofit to buy up a big chunk of the Ecuadorian Amazon so that the Chinese don't get it. What seals the deal is that it also lets the nonprofit's owner piss off a powerful oil magnate. In a flashback in "There But for the Grace of God", she authors a memo to stop "enhanced interrogation" which focuses on torture's inefficiency rather than its immorality (the part she's more concerned about). In "Sea Change" she talks President Dalton into closing the Navy base in Manama, Bahrain after it's damaged by a cyclone and moving its assets to Tunisia. For her it's about supporting a fledgling democracy and screwing the human rights-abusing Bahraini government, while Dalton gets to flip the bird to a campaign donornote a MegaCorp guy whose company did an upgrade on the base in Manama who jumped ship to his primary opponent, resulting in his loss. |
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Atlas Shrugged is a novel about what happens when the Creator class (geniuses, innovators, entrepreneurs) defies this trope, which they realise is a lie that allows the Moocher class (everyone else) to steal value from them. Instead, they choose to 'shrug' the burden of supporting all the worthless people in human society and act completely selfishly for a change, not only allowing the Moocher class to die but speeding up their inevitable demise through acts of sabotage and piracy. This is portrayed as a good moral choice for the Creator-class characters who choose to do this because these particular people are shown to have No Sympathy for the Moochers. Ergo, if these Creators acted to save the Moochers' lives (when they didn't want to) then that would be immoral since it went against their inner drives. Ayn Rand was quite clear on the point that while helping other people was not immoral per se, it was if you didn't want to. | |
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Jeremiah: Eddie from "To Sail Beyond the Stars" is an ally of the Thunder Mountain scouts who specializes in gathering information that he passes on to other people who will pay for it or share his goals of seeing civilization restored (which will give him a place to spend all of the money he's been accumulating). | |
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BattleTech: The Magistracy of Canopus bankrolls Kamea Arano's efforts to retake the throne of the Aurigan Coalition after her uncle Santiago Espinosa overthrows her in a Military Coup. Kamea is a genuinely decent person, but the Canopians are more interested in the fact that her uncle's saber-rattling is ramping up tensions between The 'Verse's superpowers, and they have no appetite for another galactic war. It also puts a neighboring third-tier star nation in the Canopians' debt and gives them a forward base on the border of the Taurian Concordat. Backfires somewhat when the Taurians join the Proxy War, but that in itself is an example: the Taurians were duped into thinking Kamea had massacred civilians and was being helped by the Taurians' Arch-Enemy the Federated Suns. When they learn it was an Espinosa False Flag Operation, they pull out and leave the Espinosas to their fate. |
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In The World's Finest Assassin, the titular aristocratic assassin Lugh Tuatha Dé is kind and helpful to the villagers working his family lands and goes out of his way to rescue and train the orphans Tarte and Maha, who were doomed to short, miserable lives full of suffering before Lugh intervened. He does this not out of altruism, but because he's building a resource base and recruiting talented, loyal pawns for his work. Despite his self-interested goals, however, the fact that he's objectively improving the lives of the people he interacts with still puts him morally head and shoulders above the corrupt nobles who are his most common targets. | |
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World Trigger: In an organization where it is important to work with cross-faction workers of different self-interests, striking deals with what you can offer is a sure way to get the help you and your team will want. Shun Midorikawa wholeheartedly shares with Yūma his combat styles, equipment settings, and solo battle time in exchange for Yūma‘s favor in asking Midorikawa’s idol, Jin, to a solo battle with Midorikawa. To tackle Katori’s negative mood swings and get her gears moving, her Expedition Exam Team Suwa makes Osamu be the favor-doer by using his master-apprentice privilege to offer Katori “the chance to date Border idol, Karasuma� if she can properly do her job for their squad. To everyone’s relief, she’s totally fired up. In return, Captain Suwa sets their team’s goal to be securing a seat for Osamu on the Expedition Force. |
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Horizon Zero Dawn: Sylens espouses this philosophy, mocking the idea of actually trusting people but being more than willing to work with anyone if it serves his interests... and then abandoning them once he's gotten everything he needs out of them. He actually created the Shadow Carja and directly empowered the Big Bad, but he insists everything he did was perfectly justified, he simply didn't take enough precautions. Aloy, who operates on a more idealistic type of pragmatism, is able to work with him, but she hates every second of it. Even though he considers Aloy an equal partner, he lies to her constantly, because he finds it easier to hide his less moral actions rather than to bother explaining them to her. In Horizon Forbidden West, this backfires on Sylens because he seemingly betrayed her and she cuts off communication when the truth is that he (ironically) vastly overestimated the altruism of another faction. | |
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Discussed on Friends, when Joey argues to Phoebe that there's no such thing as a selfless good deed since everyone expects something good in return, even if just the feeling of having done something good. Phoebe spends the episode trying to prove him wrong, with no success. It culminates in her making a $200 pledge to PBS, which she took no pleasure in doing (as it reminded her of the time in her life from right after her mother's suicide), though acknowledging that there were children out there who benefited from the channel in terms of its educational value. Unfortunately, her donation was picked up by Joey, who was participating in a PBS telethon at the time, and the size of it got him the television exposure that he had sought in the first place. | |
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Babylon 5 name-drops the concept a number of times, though it should be noted the show goes up and down the Sliding Scale of Idealism Versus Cynicism depending on the episode, with member nations of the Babylon 5 Advisory Council engaging in both enlightened self-interest and Realpolitik. When Draal takes over the planetary machine of the Epsilon Eridani planet Babylon 5 is near, he quotes this word for word to all the races who have gathered to get a piece of that technology, saying it's in their interests that none of them get it. Of course, he has other means of dissuasion too, which he uses against an offshoot of the race who originally built the technology when they try to land on the planet anyway. Discussed by G'Kar in season one's "Survivors". Garibaldi has been framed for plotting to assassinate President Luis Santiago (this is well before he actually was assassinated), and G'Kar offers to grant him asylum on Narn in hopes of making use of his skill set. (Garibaldi declines, instead choosing to Clear My Name.) In the first half of season four, G'Kar and Londo Mollari make a pact of mutual benefit: Londo will end the Centauri occupation of the Narn homeworld if G'Kar helps Londo overthrow Emperor Cartagia, an Omnicidal Maniac. In season four's "Between the Darkness and the Light", G'Kar and Londo Mollari convince the Babylon 5 member governments to throw their militaries behind Sheridan's war against President William Clark. The two of them note that it's both the morally upright choice and a sound decision from a foreign policy standpoint: if Sheridan's rebels should lose, Clark's anti-alien regime means they'll lose the humans as trade partners and potentially gain one of the region's major superpowers as an enemy. |
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In Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Prof. Slughorn has this as his characterization: being a Nice Guy from the otherwise unsavory and self-interested Slytherin House, he often helps people he thinks would have potential to become great so that he will gain some benefit some way or another later. This backfired with Tom "Lord Voldemort" Riddle, to whom he provided information on dark magics such as the Horcrux, and he regards it as My Greatest Failure. However, Slughorn is surprisingly lax with his requests from his old proteges, usually being sports tickets, sweets, or such modesties. Granted, he was retired by the start of the series so it's likely he had no real ambition by his age except to enjoy his golden years in comfort (at least until Dumbledore convinces him to come out of retirement and return as a professor). | |
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