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Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas
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Yep, even the biggest bad guy around can still have a soft spot for their parents. Sure, you've killed scores of innocent people and committed several acts of terrorism, but come on! They raised you and took care of you when you were sick! A Sub-Trope of Pet the Dog and of Even Evil Has Loved Ones, this is when a villain or a Jerkass is made more endearing via a loving relationship with their parents. It is usually just used for a quick punchline, but occasionally the concept is a bit more fleshed-out, on which case it may overlap with Morality Pet. While this trope usually focuses on mothers and their sons, it can just as easily focus on mothers and daughters, or fathers and their children. This trope is why Your Mom is a universal insult; villains from the petty thief to the serial killer don't take kindly to abuse thrown at their mothers. See Momma's Boy or Daddy's Girl for a similar (and usually more heroic) trope. Extremely Protective Child is when the child, regardless of morality, is very protective of their parent. The parent in question may or may not be a Mama Bear or Papa Wolf. If the parent is a villain themselves, the trope will always overlap with The Family That Slays Together. In this case, it could also be a case of a Villainous Mother-Son Duo. The inverse is Villainous Parental Instinct, where a villainous character still feels parental instinct and will sacrifice something important when their kids are in danger. Compare Even Evil Can Be Loved. When the villain/jerk tries to keep their family in the dark about being a bad man, then you have a case of Don't Tell Mama. If one of them finds out anyway, they (especially the mother) might react with Mama Didn't Raise No Criminal. Defying this can lead to Hates Their Parent; see Matricide, Abusive Offspring, and Self-Made Orphan for villains who really go out of their way to defy this. The Complete Monster, on the other hand, as bad as they may be, could care less for their parents. Even if they did somehow care for them at some point, that care is all rendered moot upon realization that it's only for their own personal benefit. And if they legitimately care for them, in the end, it's either possessive obsession or perversion. No Real Life Examples, Please! |
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Two Saiyans Play: During Krillin's playthrough of Among the Sleep, he compares the nightmare-mother to Vegeta's mom. Vegeta eventually catches wind of this and is not happy. Reinforced during Vegeta's playthrough of Undertale he says this after Toriel tells him to go to his room: Later on, when he finds out he has to kill Toriel, who had been like a mother to him, in order to proceed with the game, he is visibly shaken, and after she dies, he quits the game out of sadness. Let me clarify that for you: VEGETA quit a game not out of rage, but out of shame. Eventually carried over into Dragon Ball Z Abridged itself when Cell works a Your Mom joke into his Cell Games broadcast. |
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The darker-haired Mystery Solving Teen from Kate Beaton's Hark! A Vagrant "Fuckin' loves [his] grandma, so fuck off." | |
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Titan from Megamind has no qualms about stealing, killing, robbery or burning down an entire city for fun, but he's genuinely upset when he figures that Megamind lied to his space stepmom. | |
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A Bug's Life: Hopper may have loved (or at least respected) his mother enough to honor her dying wish that he never kill his younger (annoying) brother Molt. | |
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J-WITCH Series: When introduced in Season 2, Drago appears to have a genuinely loving relationship with his mother Nerissa, the two being shown to be actually caring for each other. | |
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Shane McMahon. Not quite as evil as his father, but harming Linda is a surefire way to set him off. | |
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Achewood: Ray Smuckles may at times be a bad dude with a rich elitist streak. But true to the trope, he loves his mama so much that when she tells him to back down from running for President, he backs down. | |
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In Ivory's segment on the WWF Divas: Postcard from the Caribbean 2000 VHS release, she says that when she was growing up her grandmother would always refer to her as "her little SNOT! She'd say, 'There's my little snot, my little brat'. So when I'm being Ivory with her big mouth, cutting someone up on the mic, I think of my grandma. I'm thinking, 'Yeah grandma, here's your little snot, doing it again.'" | |
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The Sly and the Family Stone song "Family Affair" describes two brothers, one who is "somebody who just loves to learn" and the other is "somebody you'd just love to burn". However, the song emphasizes that "Both kids are good to Mom / Blood's thicker than the mud." | |
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Played with in Wreck-It Ralph when Sgt. Calhoun yells at her squad to make their mothers proud and Ralph shouts back that he loves his mother. Averted in that he's only "officially" a Bad Guy, not a bad guy. | |
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Ragna and Jin in BlazBlue Alternative: Remnant are both jerkasses (Jin especially so), but they both remember the caretaker they considered a mother figure during their time at the orphanage well and mourn her death. In Jin's case, he still loves his adoptive mother, Makaira Kisaragi, and misses her dearly. | |
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I'm the Grim Reaper: While calling Chase bad isn't quite accurate, he truly does love and care for his adopted mother, Veronica. His birth mom is another story… While Scarlet, like Chase, muddies the line between anti-hero and anti-villain, this certainly applies to Ante/Yue. It’s revealed that her reason for releasing the Scarlet Rot to the world was the money she’d make that she’d use to save her dying mother. |
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Black Jack Justice: While being held prisoner by a crime boss, Jack taunts one of his goons as part of an escape plan. The boss manages to hold the goon in check until Jack brings his mother into it. | |
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In Garfield's case, "bad" is subjective (it depends on the situation, really), but he does love his mother dearly. A very long series of strips had him run away from home, get lost, and end up in a touching reunion with her. (The later animated special Garfield on the Town was an expanded adaptation of this story.) | |
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Alastor the Radio Demon from Hazbin Hotel may be a feared and loathed Overlord and a serial killer, but he speaks fondly of his mother (and her jambalaya). Word of God all but states that Al was a confirmed Mama's boy when he was alive. | |
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Mastermind: Strategist for Hire: Even despite being one of the most infamous Villains in Japan, with more than a dozen dead Pro Heroes to his name, Izuku Midoriya still deeply loves his mother, Inko Midoriya. | |
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Robin Hood (1973) has a Running Gag of the evil Prince John remembering his mother and sucking his thumb because he was The Un-Favourite, compared to his brother King Richard. He even does it while attacking his snake right-hand man. And remember, Prince John is voiced by Peter Ustinov. Also a Historical In-Joke, as Richard really was Eleanor of Aquitaine's favorite child. | |
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In "The Franchise" Shane Douglas' promo after winning and then throwing down the NWA World Heavyweight Title, at ECW's August 27, 1994 event, he said, "I stand before all of you here tonight with God and my father as witnesses." | |
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The Order of the Stick: Redcloak, the Lawful Evil Knight Templar, loved his mother and still wants to avenge her death decades later. Xykon, the Chaotic Evil Card-Carrying Villain, is hinted at this in his Start of Darkness by keeping and reanimating first his pet dog, then the corpse of his grandmother... and a few pages later he orders Grandma to kill and eat his parents. |
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Reinforced during Vegeta's playthrough of Undertale he says this after Toriel tells him to go to his room: | |
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During Krillin's playthrough of Among the Sleep, he compares the nightmare-mother to Vegeta's mom. Vegeta eventually catches wind of this and is not happy. | |
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Peter Pan: When Wendy is singing "Your Mother and Mine" to her brothers and The Lost Boys, Captain Hook and the other pirates overhear her. Anti-Villain Smee gets emotional, as he lifts up his shirt — and displays the "Mother" tattoo. | |
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It's not being puked on by a possessed game cartridge of Super Mario Bros. 3 that results in The Angry Video Game Nerd bringing out the big guns. It's said possessed cartridge insulting his mother. | |
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As if Eddie Kingston didn't treat everything as incredibly serious already, if he mentions his "beautiful mother's eyes" in his promo, then, as he said in his promo before CHIKARA High Noon, November 13, 2011, "get ready for a war." | |
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Eventually carried over into Dragon Ball Z Abridged itself when Cell works a Your Mom joke into his Cell Games broadcast. | |
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Apricot Cookie(s)!: The Director of Darkness buys flowers for his mom. | |
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In Kara of Rokyn, Lex Luthor hates a lot of things and a lot of people, especially those pesky heroes, but he never hated his mother, not even after becoming a criminal disowned by his family. | |
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Slightly Damned: Iratu is a General for The Legions of Hell and is leading an invasion of the mortal world but he still loves his long dead (not really) angel father Darius and adoptive sister Sakido but in a subversion he hates his adopted brother Buwaro. | |
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Just like his film counterpart, J.D., the villain of Heathers, dislikes his father but loved his mother, even if he doesn't talk about her much. The reason he doesn't like to talk about her is that she committed suicide (implied to be because of her husband's abuse), and he still misses her terribly. | |
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Bloom County. Steve, crossed with an Oh, Crap! moment for Opus, from the October 14, 1985 strip. Opus tells Steve that a crazy woman is ransacking his room and bellowing like a "great, ugly, squat walrus." Steve asks, "Squat walrus?" Opus says, "Yeah." Steve yells upstairs, "MOM?" and Opus says, "Oh, but a very NICE squat walrus!" In future strips, while his mother nags him endlessly, she is one of the few people Steve is even polite to. | |
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Brian Goldstein, the Big Bad Pirate King in the Union Series exemplifies this. When the ship carrying his mother is seized by a Colonial frigate So they can use his mother as a bargaining chip. causes him to take a level in Badass just to rescue his mother, ultimately being shot for his trouble. His last words to his mother, as she cradles his broken and bleeding body. "Mama, it hurts." Heartbreaking, even for a Big Bad. | |
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Kadaj, Yazoo, Loz and eventually Sephiroth in Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children won't stand for anyone insulting their mother. | |
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The Undertaker. In 1998, during the introduction of Kane and the revelation of Paul Bearer being Kane's father, the Deadman received quite a few beatings and insults. But it wasn't until Paul Bearer called Taker's mom a whore live on TV that he sprung into action and gave his former ally the asskicking he deserved. Even the Lord of Darkness loves his mama. | |
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Shrek 2 shows that Prince Charming is a complete and utter Momma's Boy. In fact, it's his desire to make her proud that leads him to hatch another villainous plan in Shrek the Third. And his last word, before he gets trapped under a tower, is "Mummy?" | |
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Avenger of Steel: Discussed by Black Widow, who notes that a lot of evil men are still fully capable of loving their mothers. | |
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Run the Jewels's Oh Mama is halfway between a Boastful Rap and this trope, the refrain lamenting the toll that their criminal acts take on the mother's psyche. | |
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From the Professional Wrestling series The JWL: Cody Rhodes did not like Samoa Joe calling him "the son of a moron" in Episode 73. | |
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In the Frozen fic In Pain and Blood, Aksel is a power-hungry young man who kills his father and attempts to kill his older brother in order to take over the throne. Despite his malice and jealousy, Aksel genuinely cares for his mother Elsa. This is actually his undoing. One day, Elsa convinces him to go riding with her and kills him when his guard is down. | |
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Pony POV Series: Dark World Fluttercruel claims to still love her "mother" Fluttershy, despite having tortured her for five hundred years; due to her psychosis, she actually thinks that's how she was expressing her love. Discord seemed to genuinely love his mortal mother Shady, and seems to still be haunted by her betrayal during his Final Battle with the Princesses. |
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Big Baby in Toy Story 3, while Lotso's henchman, qualifies. Before turning, he called his previous owner "Mama". It makes sense seeing that he's a baby doll. | |
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In Frozen Hearts (Sakume) Prince Hans views his father as one of the few people he respects and is deeply moved by how his mother still cares for him after everything he's done. | |
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Drip, the Sin of Lust in Jack, utterly perverts this in the form of his relationship with his grandmother. Her constant emotional and sexual abuse towards him as a child shaped him into becoming the sadistic rapist we met him as, so it's no surprise she ended up in Hell, too. She's now imprisoned in a wall of Drip's infernal lair, but that doesn't stop her from continuing the same abuse — all of it — right where she left off, nor does it make Drip any less cowed by her. | |
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BoBoiBoy: The Starter Villain Adu Du has a beloved mother who visits him on Earth in the third season. Unfortunately, his mom comes from a family of Card Carrying Villains, and she's utterly displeased when she learns her son made a Heel–Face Turn, to the extent of exploiting Adu Du's love for her by staging it so that BoBoiBoy would hit her when he acts in self-defense, successfully turning her son into a villain again. | |
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This is a central theme in Past Sins. Another central theme is the question of whether Nightmare Nyx is really bad... | |
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In Hope Springs Eternal, Hades reveals early on that he genuinely loves his mother Rhea dearly; when detailing his backstory to Persephone, he mentions how she had tried her best to shield him and his brothers from Kronos' abuse and how much it pained him to have to see her take the brunt of it herself, as well as her horror-stricken reaction when she saw what became of Hades when he was disgorged from his father's stomach. At the end of the fic, Hades subconsciously calls for her help when Zeus and Demeter are about to smite him and separate him from Persephone forever, prompting her to arrive just in time to set everything straight. She even gives Hades a hug and tells him how happy she is that he was finally able to find love and happiness. | |
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In the Temeraire fanfic Black Wings, Black Sails, after William Laurence, the feared Gentleman Pirate, disgraces himself with the Tswana, he goes to bed unhappy and distressed, dreaming of his mother and being carried in her arms when he was a little boy, who he was certain he would never see again. | |
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Pokemon fanfic Obsession shows Jirarudan (the delusional antagonist of Pokémon 2000) as idolizing his dead mother to the point of associating her with angels. | |
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A very cynical approach to the trope shows up in The Lion King II: Simba's Pride. Zira treated all her offspring cruelly, but especially Nuka; yet Kovu and Vitani were the ones who actively rebelled, while Nuka went out of his way for Zira, such as when Kovu first refused to take part in an attack on the Pride Lands, and Nuka tried to take charge to win Zira's attention, yet died in the process. | |
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Blood is Thicker than Bone: Kimimaro was deeply attached to his mother (Kushina's sister and Naruto's Aunt) who was the only person in the Kaguya clan who showed him kindness even when he was locked up she visited him often and forced him to flee at the Battle with Mist while the rest of the clan were killed off so that he would live. | |
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Not bad, per se, but pretty bloodthirsty and violent, Huitzilopochtli, the War God from Aztec Mythology, was born a fully armed adult and proceeded to slay most of his 400 siblings. The reason? They were going to kill their mother Coatlicue because they thought her sudden pregnancy was a dishonor on her. | |
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Scar in Nala: My Father's Madness was very attached to his mother. After she died, he changed for the worst and disowned his past self. | |
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A milder and gender-flipped version with the Chaos Marines in Warhammer 40,000. Despite their treacherous, cutthroat, and backstabbing nature, some of the Chaos Marines do still hold some measure of reverence and loyalty to their Primarchs. | |
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Ultimate Sleepwalker has a male example that shows even bad men love their fathers. The supervillain 8-Ball, a sociopath who's killed at least a dozen people during his armed robberies, and has also done such horrible things as firebombing a hospital for pay, uses some of the proceeds from his criminal activities to pay for the long-term hospital care of his father, whose drinking has nearly killed him. | |
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The Bog King from Strange Magic who while frustrated by his mother's constant attempts to set him up with women, is also humanized by her badgering. | |
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In Vaguely Recalling JoJo, J. Geil doesn't care about Joseph when he got infected with the Lovers Stand. He cares about Enya Geil's welfare and takes her to the hospital with Dio after Steely Dan uses the Lovers Stand on her. | |
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Female example: in Boy Meets Boy, Tabitha's mother is the Devil. Tabitha loves her and it appears the only thing she fears is her mother being disappointed in her. | |
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The Ultimate Evil: Drago, Shendu's Kid from the Future, has a strained relationship with his father, but he apparently had a genuinely good relationship with his mother Valerie Payne who did what she could for him before she died when he was ten years old. Though the present version of his mother has sided with his enemies, he avoids hurting her as much as possible and even leaps to save her during fights, and she's one of the only people whom he'll actually hear out without any tension. Shendu claims he doesn't care about his Missing Mom Tiamat who abandoned him and his siblings for doing what she birthed them for, but it becomes clear in the sequel that he isn't truly over it. He also disdains his Disappeared Dad Typhon who took advantage of the raw grief of Shendu's mother. When he's accidentally released by Valerie, he sets out to find his resurfacing mother to seek answers from her. |
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The protagonist of Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody" has just shot someone. He feels bad about making his mother cry. | |
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Jane, a murderous teenage girl and the villain of The Veronica Exclusive, obviously loves her mother. Or rather, loved. | |
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"Sweet 'N' Sour" Larry Sweeney started his promo at CHIKARA Planet of the Grapes, June 19, 2005, by mentioning advice that "Mama Sweeney" gave him. | |
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Paul in Pokémon Reset Bloodlines, Jerkass as he is, apparently misses his late mother. | |
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Strong Bad from Homestar Runner is a bully who torments others, including his own family. But in an interview he is very protective of his unseen mom and threatens Kevin to not go anywhere near her. | |
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Total Drama Legacy: Drew. One of the fic's two primary antagonists, and a huge Momma's Boy. | |
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The Princess and the Goblin: Prince Froglip genuinely loves his mother. | |
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Ratatouille: "Bad" may be a bit too strong of a word to describe him, but Rémy's ratatouille reminding Ego of the kind his mother used to cook kicks off the film's resolution and denouement. | |
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Minilife TV: In "Happiness Is A Sparked Lake" the member of the X-Team that murdered Archie's love interest Zoey is revealed to carry a locket with a picture of his mother and he wishes to be with her again after he's been arrested. | |
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Lilo & Stitch: Dr. Jumba Jookiba, a self-proclaimed Evil Genius, objects to Stitch (apparently) insulting his mother during one fight sequence. | |
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The Alien Sultan, the main villain in the Kapitan Bomba series, sincerely loves his mom and keeps her portrait in his private chamber. | |
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While he's not evil, Angry Joe is, well, angry often, as well as Trigger-Happy. However, when Spoony's subconscious implies that he has mommy issues in To Boldly Flee, Joe replies "Hey! I love my momma!" The actual Joe (the actor, not the character) has confirmed that he's a momma's boy himself, so there's a good chance it translated into the character. On the commentary for his Man of Steel crossover review, he got extremely pumped up when Superman (one of his idols) defended his mother with extreme force, saying he could empathize. | |
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