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Mooks, Evil Minions and even The Dragon have a family, and can form romantic relationships and friendships just like normal people. On and off the clock. Their Bad Boss however, usually doesn't understand or seriously misjudges the emotional attachment present. Eventually, it results that the Big Bad's Evil Plan calls for the indirect suffering or death of their friend/love interest/family member. Maybe the continent they live on is being targeted with their boss' orbital Death Ray. Perhaps their boss wants to kill all Xes, and the significant other happens to be an X. Or the friend just so happens to be the hero. Henchie will ask if he can at least save this one person they love... and the boss will refuse. For extra sting the effort needed would be minimal and the boss will rail on the henchman for placing others above his goals. Worse is the variant where the boss puts a gun in their hand and tells them to shoot as a proof of their loyalty. Despite whatever horrible things they've done, the resulting conflicting loyalties nearly always come up on the side of the loved one. As you can guess, this egregious Villainous Demotivator will cause a Mook–Face Turn pretty darn fast, or at least prompt the minion to release someone who can save the loved one... namely, the hero who is in the (actually) inescapable Death Trap. Often, this is combined with High-Heel–Face Turn: a Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter falls in love with the hero and can't bring herself to harm them. Of course, if you want to show how really nasty a minion can be, it could be subverted in a Moral Event Horizon where they more than willingly accept the murder of their loved one. Bonus points if they made it slow and painful. Conversely, the hero may hold these loved ones in an inverted Hostage for MacGuffin against the baddie. A minor version of this would have the Hero pondering the fact that we're all somebody's kid, and wondering how the families of the mooks he's offed feel. To make it more powerful, the hero could encounter said loved ones and start a nice long guilt trip. See also/compare Even Evil Has Loved Ones, Even Evil Has Standards, and Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas. Subtrope of Conflicting Loyalty. See also They Were Holding You Back or I Will Punish Your Friend for Your Failure. |
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In MapleStory, the Demon Slayer character rebelled against the Dark Mage for this reason. | |
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Defied in Empire from the Ashes. Achultani Central Computer makes sure that none of his soldiers will be loyal to his girlfriend more than to him, by killing every achultani female as soon as she's achultani equivalent of teenager | |
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Arkham Knight gives us mooks who are out town, generally throwing riots, going for joyrides in stolen cars and being trouble in general. Business in Gotham, as usual. But you listen in on the Enemy Chatter enough and you get this: | |
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Redwall, of all series to have this (given most vermin in the series lack much in the way of any redeeming qualities — especially in the later series, when the morality becomes almost strictly Black-and-White Morality) has a brief example in Doomwyte. Big Bad Korvuss Skurr, in the chaos of the final battle, finds a soldier huddling for shelter in one of the few safe areas, who replies he's lost his mate in battle and can't fight. Korvus Skurr, in his most prominent Kick the Dog moment, relentlessly strikes him down and tells him to join his fallen mate, all to take their safe space. | |
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Heroes: Maury Parkman's loyalty to Arthur Petrelli (and therefore his life) ended as soon as Arthur decided to have his son Matt killed. | |
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Believe it or not, a good number of Emperor Souther's men in Fist of the North Star do NOT like beating and killing children; the trouble is that if they don't do so, Souther will kill their children as punishment for their disobedience. | |
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Harry Potter: Played straight in the backstory - Voldemort was going to spare Lily Evans-Potter when Snape asked him to, but as soon as she made it slightly difficult (he would have had to push her out of the way and all) he just decided to kill her too. As a result, not only does Lily's choice to stay give Harry powerful magical protection, but Snape sacrifices everything to ensure Voldemort's downfall, and the best part is that Voldemort seems completely ignorant that he just gave one of his most promising lieutenants a perfect reason to want him dead. Also used with the Malfoy family in Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows - Voldemort punishes Lucius for his various screw-ups by letting Draco join the Death Eaters and putting him on what is essentially a suicide mission. Both Lucius and his wife Narcissa are obviously driven out of their minds with fear by this and Draco makes it pretty apparent by the end of the book that he is only going through with the mission to keep Voldemort from killing his parents. By the last book, it is clear that none of the Malfoys want to serve Voldemort anymore and simply want to all get each other out alive. This clears the way for Narcissa to actually lie to Voldemort's face about whether or not Harry is dead, just so that she and Lucius could find Draco again. Voldemort is a confirmed expert of Legilimency; lying to him and getting away with it is VERY difficult... and she still did it and got away with it. |
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One of the statistics that Alpha Protocol keeps track of is the number of orphans the player creates when he kills mooks, to the extent that where you are in the world affects how many orphans are created. In China it's only one orphan per man killed, for example. | |
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Rick and Morty: Played for Laughs in the first episode. Rick informs Morty that the bug-people security guards chasing them are robots and thus Morty can kill them guilt-free. Morty reluctantly tests this by shooting the leg off one. | |
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In Elementary, the trope comes up in a coded text message to one of Moriarty's mooks that Sherlock decodes too late: "Moran, you never told me you had a sister. She dies or you do. Your choice." He chooses the latter. | |
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In Mobile Suit Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz, we are shown the background of the real Operation Meteor supposedly carried by the Gundam Pilots, they were supposed to do a Colony Drop on Earth, and then use the destruction and chaos to use the Gundams to conquer Earth. Naturally, the pilots and the supervisors didn't go along with this, except for the real Trowa Barton, who got shot by a technician who had family on Earth. The current Trowa Barton is a another nameless technician who'd happened to be around, and then tasked by the supervisor to bring the Gundams to earth and carrying out a more specified task: unleashing absolute hell on the forces of OZ. | |
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Luke Cage (2016): By the start of season 2, Mariah's chauffeur, Sugar, has become a father. His wife also loans Mariah clothes after Bushmaster burns down the Stokes' brownstone. Comanche is very close with his mother Janice Jones. She is devastated after he is murdered, and disgusted with Shades after she learns he was behind it. |
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The Order of the Stick: When Tarquin's mooks attack the Order, two of them make clear that they're following his instructions because the Order would only kill them, whereas their boss would wipe out their families for disobedience. | |
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James Bond tricks Hugo Drax into implying that Jaws' girlfriend will not be one of those allowed to live according to his master plan in Moonraker in order to get Jaws to do a Heel–Face Turn. | |
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If there's a positive Intimacy between an Abyssal Exalted and their Lunar mate, almost none of the usual Abyssal rules apply to that person. The Abyssal can fight their Deathlord to protect the Lunar. Usually "fighting your Deathlord" is synonymous with "putting your character sheet into a paper shredder." | |
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Joker, a mini-series focusing on The Joker is told from the perspective of one of Joker's henchmen, a man named Frost. During the story he is revealed to have a whole normal family. This comes back to bite him later when the Joker rapes his wife and when questioned why states that it makes him and Frost even after Joker saved Frost's life during a heist. | |
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Batman Beyond: One episode has a Kobra operative accidentally warn Batman about an upcoming heist when he warns his brother that his bank is going to be targeted by Kobra. | |
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Jackie Chan Adventures: The Enforcers each have a nephew whom they love and care dearly for and haven't told them the truth about their "import-export business"note criminal activity over the years. At the end of "Dragon Scouts", when the Enforcers "leave for the Far East for a big business deal"note getting arrested for stealing the Golden Squid and going to prison, you can faintly see the tears sitting in the corners of their eyes as they wave their nephews goodbye. | |
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In Berserk, the Count, the second major Apostle that Guts fights in the manga, became an Apostle by sacrificing his wife, whom he walked in on during a pagan orgy that went down in his very own castle, which drove him over the Despair Event Horizon. But the Count also had a daughter named Theresia, who meant the entire world to him. She is used as a Human Shield by Guts against him in a moment that sparks a What the Hell, Hero? from Puck, Guts's companion who was captured and got to know the little girl. When Guts defeats the Count and he calls on the God Hand in order to avoid death, Femto, a.k.a. Griffith, demands that he sacrifice Theresia (since in order to become an Apostle one has to sacrifice those one most dearly loves in order to surrender oneself to evil) or be dragged off to Hell. The Count ultimately chooses his own death rather than the sacrifice of the only loved one he still has left. Actually, those are the rules. When a Behelit activates, the dying owner is given a choice to either die or sacrifice whatever is most important to them and be reborn as a demon. The Count offers anything ELSE when presented with Theresia as the price, but it has to be Theresia because that's the only thing the Count cares about. That "anything" being for the Count to accept death, and since he's already a demon he's obviously going to Hell. Forever. |
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Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: After Damar does a Heel–Face Turn, his old boss has his wife and children murdered, prompting him to ask the rhetorical question "What kind of people give those orders?" and Kira (whose people suffered years of torture and oppression at the hands of Damar's people, with Damar himself and many of his friends doing exactly the kind of pointless violence that his family has now fallen victim to) to answer "Yeah, Damar, what kind of people give those orders?" | |
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There is a form of this in Mass Effect 3. Background chatter between Alliance members, people on your side, has one private confessing that her deadbeat brother joined Cerberus, and she doesn't want to have to kill him. Since all the enemies the player fights in the game are to some extent mindlessly loyal and slavishly dedicated - you can find journal entries that the private's brother made before and after "integration" that prove it - none of them hesitate or switch sides, but people who aren't over the edge can. Rila, a woman falling under indoctrination who just tried to strangle her sister, gains control of herself for long enough to send her away so she can take a lot of Banshees with her. | |
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Wonder Woman: When a mook discovers that the villain is planning to use a laser to destroy Phoenix, Arizona, he yells that he has family there, and tries to stop him. He fails, but his action gives Wonder Woman time to save the day. And it wasn't clear that he knew the villain was planning to do anything criminal. | |
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Batman: The Animated Series: In one episode, Harley Quinn turns against the Joker when she realizes that his plan to nuke the city will also kill all their "friends" at Arkham, as well as her pet hyenas. A later episode shows that one of the incidents that caused Dick Grayson to quit being Robin was when he witnessed Batman brutally interrogating a reluctant Joker mook in front of the man's wife and young son. |
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Animorphs: When the heroes destroy the city's Earth-based Kandrona, Visser Three rations the Kandrona on the Pool ship, but without enough to go around, many Yeerks die. One Controller is furious that a loved one of his was deemed too unimportant to save, and plots with Ax to arrange the Visser's assassination. The heroic version shows up in The Departure, when Cassie is confronted by Aftran, the sister of a Yeerk whom she had recently killed in battle. |
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This shows up in one of the Tom Raney-drawn Stormwatch prequel comics. The Dragon is okay with nuking anyone -but- his family. Lord Helspon didn't care. | |
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Daredevil (2015): Most of Wilson Fisk's henchmen have loved ones of some sort. Fisk tends to use said loved ones as leverage to keep said henchmen from ever leaving his employ under the threat of having them killed. Fisk's reputation is established after Matt beats his name out of John Healy...who promptly proceeds to kill himself so that Fisk won't go after the people he cares about to make an example of him. Detectives Christian Blake and Carl Hoffman in season 1 are a pair of dirty cops who stifle investigations into Fisk's activities and kill off any Russians who survive Fisk's bombing of their hideouts. They have also been best friends for 35 years. When Blake becomes a liability that Fisk has to get rid of, he makes Hoffman be the one to do it. It's clear Hoffman hates what he's doing, and he can't hold back tears as he's injecting the poison into Blake's IV line. Leland Owlsley mentions on a few occasions having a son, Lee. Had the show not been cancelled, season 4 would've been about Lee becoming his comics namesake, a crime boss named The Owl. In season 3, Jasper Evans is a lifer that Fisk pays to shank him so he can trick the FBI into thinking he's being threatened for snitching. When Matt and Karen track him down, he reveals that Fisk is threatening his son. SAC Tammy Hattley takes very close care of her own daughter. She also divorced her husband after Fisk had their other kid killed, so that he wouldn't become a potential target for Fisk's wrath. |
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In One Piece during the paramount war, Coby trips over the body of a fallen marine. He finds a locket and opens it to find a picture of the marine's family, something that naturally distresses him a great deal. | |
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In Gaunt's Ghosts, Hark had a conversation with another commissar who recommended killing the random hangers on who travel with the imperial guard (including family) to save money. Hark shuts him up by explaining the guard would desert en masse. | |
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A Brighter Dark: Somewhere near the the beginning, Corrin and company are tasked with capturing a fort, an attack that results in the death of almost everyone in the building. Nothing is really made of it, and only the commander is given any kind of characterization before his untimely demise. Then later one we get to meet the father of one of the people stationed there, without even having any idea of which mook he's the father of, who says that the death of his son motivated him to go on a Roaring Rampage of Revenge against Nohr. Ouch. | |
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The Dead Zone: Greg Stillson makes use of this to control people and make them do what he wants; most notably within the text is banker Chuck Gendron, whose family Stillson threatens to get him to raise campaign contributions for him and to work as his campaign manager. | |
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Neverwinter Nights mostly averts this, as its villains are mostly the cackling Omnicidal Maniac sort, but the module-creating community does have some examples. In the HeX coda modules, Poe betrays Lester's doomsday plan because it would put her boyfriend at risk. |
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In Superman: The Movie, Lex's moll releases Supes after Lex blithely acknowledges his earthquake plot will kill her mother. | |
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Game of Thrones: In the season seven premiere "Dragonstone" the Lannister soldiers Arya meets mention missing their family (in one case, the soldier's wife had a baby he's never seen, the other wishes he were back fishing with his father), emphasizing they're not so bad, along with the fact they invited Arya to share a meal with them. It's apparent they have only recently been conscripted, and haven't been hardened by war. | |
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Natural Selection: While the Safe Zone's population is primarily comprised of No-Star students and their families, One and even Two-Star students will opt to have their families be protected behind it's walls for their safety while the Naturals Elections are on. | |
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In a Marvel issue of Scooby-Doo, Scooby chases a phony spook henchman to the beam of an unfinished skyscraper. The henchman is losing his balance and falling off Scooby catches him, reasoning "He may be a mean, rotten dog scarer, but he probably has a mother." | |
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In Dredd, Judge Anderson gets an Oh, Crap! moment when she realizes the woman who just risked her own life to help them is the wife of one of the mooks she recently gunned down. | |
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Young Justice: One of the New Gods (Beautiful Dreamer) poses as a mook's mother in one episode. When the rest of the New Gods (plus Superboy) appear, he actually moves to protect her and tells her to get to safety, until Dreamer drops the disguise. | |
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Brawl in the Family's Ode to Minions mentions this. | |
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Omen III: The Final Conflict. The wife of Damien Thorne's right hand man had a baby at a time that the Christ Child is scheduled to be born. When Thorne orders the death of all the babies born during that time, the aide lies about when the baby was born so he won't have to kill him. Not that it does him any good. | |
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Deus Ex lets you meet the parents of a Majestic 12 troop in a cafe. The mother begs you to spare him, while the father feels he deserves what's coming to him. | |
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The LEGO Movie features a significant scene whereby Lord Business' lieutenant Good Cop Bad Cop is subjected to the punishment of gluing his parents to the floor, after he failed to catch the Special, along with the Piece of Resistance. The important thing is that Lord Business emotionally exploited him throughout his conflict with his job and his parents during this scene, practically targeting one of his main weaknesses by saying it's his fault for not doing his job and that he is Kragling his parents out of his own failure. Despite what he's been doing arresting and torturing Master Builders, it is demonstrated that he is shown to be submissive to a very controlling and abusive figure of authority, a.k.a. Lord Business, this scene being nothing less than Nightmare Fuel and Tear Jerker rolled into one. You can't forget the distress in his parents' voices and the looks on their faces when they see what's happening to their son, as Good Cop's face is erased and Bad Cop is unable to get up for a moment or so as he feels for his lost face. Neither the horrified look on his face when Lord Business reveals that he's using his parents, Bad Cop barely able to move either his face or his body out of shock except to say, "Mummy, Daddy, what are you doing here?" in a childlike voice, who have yet to fathom the horror that GCBC has just about realized. The juxtaposition of sadistic pleasure on Lord Business' face and voice in the same frame just twists the knife in the gut even further. |
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Early on in The Machine Girl, the title character wipes out a number of gangsters. We then see their grieving parents, whom the Big Bad recruits as a set of Elite Mooks with the promise that they can take revenge for their children. | |
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Revolution: In the episode "No Quarter", one Monroe militia soldier named Private Richards reveals to Danny Matheson that the soldier who got killed off in the pilot episode is named Templeton. Richards was best friends with the guy, and the guy had a wife named Carol Templeton. Richards is telling Danny this before he gives Danny a beatdown for killing Templeton. | |
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In a Captain America issue where Hydra was planning massive destruction across the US. Before launching the attack they had set up safe havens for family of members and had set up a department in charge of moving these people to safety. For an organization that kills its minions with impunity, they showed surprisingly good people skills on this one. | |
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