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Famous, Famous, Fictional
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When several examples of something are being listed in Speculative Fiction, a couple of them will be from our time (or timeline if it's Alternate History), and the final one will be one from the future (or post-divergence Alternate History). The most common variant is to list famous scientists—Newton, Einstein, Johannes Kepler, Werner Heisenberg and Da Vinci being quite popular—followed, finally, by a scientist from the future. Occasionally their inventions are also listed: Newton's mechanics, Einstein's relativity, Zefram Cochrane's warp drive. The most common inversion is one where the person lists off several fictional figures and then tosses in a real-world one—the implication being that the real-world one is just as silly as the fictional one. Usually the trope serves only as an antidote to Small Reference Pools, to remind us that it is, in fact, the future and people haven't stopped thinking and discovering things in between our time and story's setting. It would be odd if there hasn't been any new discoveries or geniuses worth mentioning, especially if the story involves something like Faster-Than-Light Travel. When someone or something we already know is used as such, then the author is just making a point: say, if Hawking is mentioned, that means people of the future in that verse think he is a genius equal to Newton and Einstein, meaning that readers also should. Extremely prone to Rule of Three — meaning we go far enough into the future to see a new example, but not far enough that those we know currently aren't still on the short list. It is much harder to find an example which doesn't follow a "present, present, future" (or for added symbolism, "past, present, future") scheme. When there is a long list of examples, expect a third of them to be from the future. Particularly when the work is from the 1950s or 1960s, the third future example will often have a East Asian (or less commonly African or Indian) name, indicative of the the idea that these parts of the world would have a bigger part to play in the future in what at the time were still considered mostly European- and American-dominated fields like the sciences. A variation occurs when it's alternate reality: say, when someone mentions Alexander, Bonaparte and Stalin as world dominators who failed, it means that in this reality the changing event is somewhere between the mid-18th century and the early 20th century, which made Stalin and not Hitler start World War II. A subtrope of Cryptic Background Reference. Sometimes overlaps with Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick. A form of The Triple. Contrast with Plato Is a Moron, in which the fictional character usually personally boasts of being in the same range (or more likely being better) than the famous people. |
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Harry Potter's famous wizard cards have figures from mythology (Merlin, Circe), history (Agrippa, Paracelsus), and also characters unique to the Harry-Potter-universe, such as Alberic Grunnion and Hengist of Woodcroft. | |
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StarCraft has a slight variation with the four names of the ships that carried humans to the Koprulu Sector; each are named after a famous ship from the past: the Nagglfar (named after the Naglfar of Norse mythology, the Ship of Nails that carries barbarians to fight the gods during Ragnarök), the Argo (from Greek mythology), the Reagan (likely named after the modern aircraft carrier) and the Sarengo, which presumably is a ship from an unexplored part of StarCraft history. | |
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Scorpion does a variation, listing two real Central American countries followed by a fictional one when listing potential landing places when the team finds themselves kidnapped and taken to a Spanish-speaking country, knowing that they've only been knocked out for 3.5 hours. Naturally, it's the fictional one that they're told they've been taken to. In reality, they never left the United States, and were only knocked out for one hour, during which time Sly's watch was reprogrammed. | |
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Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey opens with Rufus bringing important historical figures to the future as guest lecturers for his class, including historical figures from 20 Minutes into the Future — one being a rock musician that was popular at the time, and the other being a futuristic historical figure. | |
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From the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Relaunch novels: "He had learned all he could about Earth's eminent explorers — Leif Eriksson, Ferdinand Magellan, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, Neil Armstrong, Jonathan Archer..." | |
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Angel: Inverted in Wolfram & Hart's introductory video, which explains it had a hand in the rise of two fictional companies (Yoyodyne and Weyland Yutani) and one real one (News Corp). | |
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The opening credits sequence for Star Trek: Enterprise is a visual example, presenting a montage of real historic advancements in human exploration - sailing, flight, undersea, near space - culminating in the fictional invention of next-generation orbital shuttles, warp drive, and the launch of the titular starship. | |
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2010: Odyssey Two "All this had been known since the Voyager flyby missions of the 1970s, the Galileo surveys of the 1980s, and the Kepler landings of the 1990s." The book was published in 1982, when the Galileo probe was still being developed; due to delays it didn't arrive at Jupiter until 1995. | |
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The Simpsons: A gag from "Sweets and Sour Marge" has Comic Book Guy buying Leonard Nimoy's biographical books, I Am Not Spock, I Am Spock, and I Am Also Scotty. "Simpson Tide" mentions the films Blacula, Blackenstein and The Blunch Black of Blotre Blame. In "Simpson Tall Tales", the episode's take on the legend of Paul Bunyan shows Paul (Homer) and his ox Babe traveling across America and leaving their mark, making the Great Smoky Mountains thanks to them smoking cigars, devastating a lush forest area into Death Valley, and also making the fictitious "Big Holes with Beer National Park" by drunkenly dancing, as well as an additional fictional moment of Paul and Babe battling Rodan. "Moe Goes from Rags to Riches" is supposed to be about the history of Moe's bar rag, and it tells the story of numerous historical events it lived through. However, it includes the story of 1001 Nights with Scheherezade, which is fictional. In "Alone Again, Natura-Diddly", when Homer lists off several men that Maude could be dating in heaven, he lists John Wayne, Tupac Shakur, and Sherlock Holmes. |
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In a rare example where the universe is entirely fictional even though references to the real world are present, the city of Anor Londo in Dark Souls is strewn with real-world Renaissance portraits, engravings, and architecture. One of the few exceptions is a portrait of Princess Gwynevere, which is taken straight from her concept art. While the portrait itself is beautiful and doesn't clash too badly with the setting, Gwynevere has certain shapely attributes which make her painting instantly distinguishable from the real ones. | |
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Twice in the Doctor Who Expanded Universe novel The Drosten's Curse by A.L. Kennedy. The Doctor thinks to himself that his tendency to run off and think in strange places annoyed Einstein, Feynman, Leonardo and Zogg the Remarkable. Later Putta's plan to help the Doctor is described as not the kind of plan Napoleon, Genghis Khan or Thraxtic would have thought of. | |
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In an early episode of Star Trek: Discovery, Lorca asks Stamets if he wants to be remembered like The Wright Brothers, Elon Musk, Zefram Cochrane. note As Musk's star has fallen, it's become Hilarious in Hindsight to note that this Lorca is from the Evil Mirror Universe. | |
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South Scrimshaw: While discussing how Brillo Whales don't actually lay eggs, an optional tangent mentions four known egg-laying mammals: the Platypus, the Echidna, the Snorb, and the Ribbonsnaw. | |
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In the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip "Matildus", the Doctor placates the eponymous custodian of the Great Big Library of Everything after losing all the books he borrowed by offering her the first editions of The Iliad, Macbeth and the diary of Empress Goozoo the Quanteenth. | |
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This is #5 of Cracked's 6 Sci-Fi Movie Conventions (That Need to Die), the example being "Newton, Einstein, Surak". | |
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This Perfect Day by Ira Levin has a nursery rhyme paying tribute to the four people who are considered the spiritual forefathers of the society in which the book is set. The pattern of the rhyme requires four names, so there's two past people and two future people: | |
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In the third The War Against the Chtorr book by David Gerrold, "The screams got louder, sounding like Auschwitz, Hiroshima or Show Low." (The Show Low incident isn't simply a Cryptic Background Reference; it was discussed in detail in book one.) | |
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A variation with only two examples. Dr. Catherine Halsey in Halo: Reach mentions that the Forerunner artifact under the Babd Catha ice shelf might be a discovery on the level of the conical bullet or the Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine. | |
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Starship Troopers: When the film was released, the accompanying website which contained a lot of character bios and historical information listed the Mobile Infantry alongside historically prestigious military units such as The Knights Templar, the Winged Hussars and the Navy SEALs. | |
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Inverted in Red Fire, Red Planet when Meromi Riyal lists off various martial arts she's studied. | |
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The Twilight Zone (1985): In "The Convict's Piano", the notorious 1920s Chicago gangster Mickey Shaughnessy is compared to Dutch Schultz and Al Capone. | |
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In The Night Mayor, the new form of public entertainment is a kind of hyperreal virtual reality. Susan notes that it is still waiting for a pioneer to really showcase its potential as an artform the way D. W. Griffith and Sergei Eisenstein did for film in the 20th century, or Chillmeister Freaze did for ice sculpture in the 21st. | |
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Deception (1946): When asked in an early scene what composers he admires, Karel the concert cellist names Strauss, Stravinsky, and Hollenius. The first two are real while the third is the antagonist in the film, the former sugar daddy to the woman that Karel just married. | |
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Diaspora by Greg Egan is a story of exploration and discovery by our virtualised descendants. It has physicists front and centre. The real-world Planck and Wheeler are joined in 2055 by Renata Kozuch. Wheeler suggested the vacuum is made out of a maze of microscopic quantum wormholes. Kozuch takes this idea and tranforms it into the foundation of particles physics: all particles are wormhole mouths. This is a rare example where the future member of the trio explicitly builds on the work of the real-world pair. | |
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There's a bit in a Red Dwarf novel, where Lister realised he's returned to Earth when he sees Mount Rushmore. The faces are Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt, Lincoln, and "possibly America's greatest President, Elaine Salinger". | |
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In a practice quiz during the trip to D.C. for the Academic Decathlon, Peter answers one question "strontium, barium, vibranium". | |
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The Fountains of Paradise: "Having first made his name with a new cosmological theory that had survived almost ten years before being refuted, Goldberg had been widely acclaimed as another Einstein or N'goya." | |
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In Ringworld, Louis Wu describes the voice of a Pierson's puppeteer as like "Cleopatra, Helen of Troy, Marilyn Monroe, and Lorelei Huntz, rolled into one." He does it again in Ringworld's Children, where he describes the potential future of the Fringe War as akin to the Wars of the Roses, The Vietnam War, and "Avenge Mecca". |
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Used in DC One Million when a visitor from the 853rd century says how proud he is to be back in the 20th century, the time of such great scientists as Albert Einstein, Stephen Hawking, and Ayo Sotinwa. He then corrects himself, realizing that Sotinwa would still be a child at this point. | |
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Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie: When delivering a boring lecture to the class: | |
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In Android: Netrunner there are four ICEs (one per corporation), currently unreleased, that are named after a famous scientist. NBN (focus on information) has Gutenberg, Haas-Bioroid (focus on artificial intelligences) has Turing, Jinteki (focus on genetic modification) has Crick, and Weyland (focus on spatial colonization) has Meru Mati, the fictional engineer who made the space elevator possible. | |
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A show business example in A Star Is Born. When Esther Blodgett checks out the footprints in concrete at Grauman's Chinese Theater she sees the footprints of Jean Harlow, Harold Lloyd, and Norman Maine, the fictional actor played by Fredric March in the movie. | |
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In "The Muse" episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, an alien named Onaya lists artists she's "influenced" over the centuries such as Catullus, John Keats, and Phineas Tarbolde. Tarbolde was identified as an author in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" of the original series (but did not receive significant development beyond these mentions). | |
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From Sisterhood of Dune: "The Discussion Chamber was one of the Mentat School's largest classrooms, an auditorium with dark-stained walls covered in statesmanlike images of the greatest debaters in human history, ranging from famous ancient orators of Old Earth, such as Marcus Cicero and Abraham Lincoln, to Tlaloc who had instigated the Time of Titans, to speakers from recent centuries, such as Renata Thew and the unparalleled Novan al-Jones." | |
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The Prophecy used it rather well when they had their villain the Archangel Gabriel explain his motives. The first two are taken straight from The Bible, the third one is the plot of the movie. | |
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Chainsaw Man: The Chainsaw Devil has the ability to eat abstract concepts, and anything it eats is retroactively erased from existence, including every person's memory of it (although some Devils can still recall them, vaguely). Things it has eaten include AIDS, World War II, nuclear weapons, and Nazis, as well as stranger entities like a star that drove children insane, four things that happened to humans instead of death at the end of their lives, a disease called "Arnolone Syndrome", the eruption of "Mount Hio", and an unknown sixth sense. | |
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Many from the Star Trek universe. Given Trek's deep backstory, a number of the Fictional names are actually recurring references to well-developed characters or events, unlike most instances of this trope where the specific name chosen is essentially meaningless. Examples using references to established figures: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: In Star Trek V: The Final Frontier: In "Threshold" Janeway tells Tom that by being the first man to breach the Warp 10 barrier, he'll be joining the ranks of Orville Wright, Neil Armstrong, and Zefram Cochrane (first human inventor of the warp drive). Inverted in the original series episode "The Savage Curtain," where a battle between good and evil has "good" represented by Vulcan sage Surak, Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, and Abraham Lincoln. Evil, in turn, is represented by future warlord Colonel Green, Mad Scientist Zora, the Klingon warrior Kahless, and Genghis Khan. From the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Relaunch novels: "He had learned all he could about Earth's eminent explorers — Leif Eriksson, Ferdinand Magellan, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, Neil Armstrong, Jonathan Archer..." Averted when the Doctor is thinking of adopting the name of a famous doctor. He considers Dr Galen, Dr Salk, or Dr Spock, though the last is also a Stealth Pun regarding the famous Star Trek character. In "Space Seed", Lt. McGivers has several portraits of historic conquerors in her quarters, including Alexander the Great, Napoléon Bonaparte and Khan Noonien Singh. In one episode, Picard lists (only) two infamous men in history: Adolf Hitler and Khan Singh. Benjamin and Jake Sisko play holographic baseball with all the greats, like Tris Speaker, Ted Williams, and Buck Bokai, in "If Wishes Were Horses". Bokai's name pops up a few times during the series and it's clear he's one of the most accomplished players in the (now several-hundred-year) history of the sport. Captain Janeway mentions The Omega Particle in the same breath as the most dangerous creations of Albert Einstein and Carol Marcus. When Voyager later encounters a memorial to the victims of a massacre, Janeway compares it to "the obelisk at Khitomernote The Klingon colony that was the site of the peace agreement between the Federation and the Klingon Empire in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, and was also attacked by Romulans; the victims included Worf's parents...the fields of Gettysburg". In at least one novel, a character compares Hardboiled Detective heroes like Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe, Dashiell Hammett's Sam Spade, and Tracy Torme's Dixon Hill (Hill being Picard's favorite, and Tracy Torme being the real-life creator of the character for "The Big Goodbye"). The opening credits sequence for Star Trek: Enterprise is a visual example, presenting a montage of real historic advancements in human exploration - sailing, flight, undersea, near space - culminating in the fictional invention of next-generation orbital shuttles, warp drive, and the launch of the titular starship. In an early episode of Star Trek: Discovery, Lorca asks Stamets if he wants to be remembered like The Wright Brothers, Elon Musk, Zefram Cochrane. note As Musk's star has fallen, it's become Hilarious in Hindsight to note that this Lorca is from the Evil Mirror Universe. Examples using one-off references: Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Whom Gods Destroy". Lee Kuan is also mentioned by Spock in an almost identical context in "Patterns of Force": In "Charlie X", the title character uses his mind powers to force Spock to recite poetry from William Blake's The Tyger, Poe's The Raven, and what appears to be a 'future' poem. The Doctor lists some of the greatest performers of La Bohème. The first two pairs are real people, the other is a pair of Vulcans. Later on, he takes it a step further and actually summons up several great thinkers for a chat on the holodeck, including Gandhi, Lord Byron, Socrates, and T'Pau of Vulcan. He also refers to great Alpha Quadrant artists: "Verdi, da Vinci, T'Leel of Vulcan..." Picard mentions Pearl Harbor and Station Salem One as stages for bloody preambles to war. Data, considering Shakespeare, planned to study the performances of Olivier, Branagh, Shapiro and Kullnark. In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Court Martial", Simple Country Lawyer Samuel Cogley invokes The Bible, the Codes of Hammarubi and Justinian, the Magna Carta, the U.S. Constitution, the Fundamental Declarations of the Martian Colonies, and the Statutes of Alpha III. In "The Muse" episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, an alien named Onaya lists artists she's "influenced" over the centuries such as Catullus, John Keats, and Phineas Tarbolde. Tarbolde was identified as an author in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" of the original series (but did not receive significant development beyond these mentions). "The Ultimate Computer" shakes up the Rule of Three by using only one real person: Einstein, Kazanga, and Sitar of Vulcan. In "The Ensigns of Command", when the captain tells Data his violin playing is "quite beautiful," Data responds, "Technically speaking, Sir, it is not my playing. It is a precise imitation of the techniques of Jascha Heifetz and Trenka Bron-Ken." |
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Mass Effect has several examples: The Armstrong Nebula is named after a famous astronaut — the first to walk on the moon — and each system is also named after other astronauts famous for firsts. These include Gagarin (first man to orbit) and Tereshkova (first woman in space), but also Vamshi and Grissom. There's also Hong as Odd Name Out, most likely being named after the People's Republic of China's first satellite. Vamshi is not elaborated on, but Grissom is debatable: he's either a reference to in-universe Jon Grissom, the first man to go through a mass relay and the commander of the Alliance Fleet during the First Contact War, or Gus Grissom, one of the Mercury Seven and the only one to die on-duty when Apollo 1 burned down. Mass Effect: Andromeda: Several systems in the Heleus Cluster are all named after famous explorers from the histories of the various species present in the colonization effort. These include human examples (Eriksson after Leif Eriksson, Pfeiffer for the Austrian explorer and ethnographer Ida Laura Pfeiffer, Pytheas after the Greek geographer Pytheas of Massalia, and Zeng He after the eponymous Chinese navigator) and a number of alien ones exposited on in-universe (Dar'hegah for the first batarian astronaut, Kindrax for the first turian to cross one of Palaven's oceans in a balloon, and Tecunis for the first salarian expedition to reach the Citadel). |
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Percy Jackson and the Olympians inverts it, where the list of people who have entered Hades and returned includes Hercules, Orpheus, and Harry Houdini. | |
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In Alien in a Small Town, when Paul lists civil rights leaders from Earth history, he mentions Anthony, Gandhi, King, and... Stephenson, who was apparently involved in a civil rights movement for "biological androids". | |
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The pictures of scientists at Peter's school include Bruce Banner, Howard Stark, and Abraham Erskine among several real ones. | |
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In The Hyperion Cantos, Hegemony CEO Meina Gladstone is said to be often likened to Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill or Alvarez-Temp. | |
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In The Haunting of Drearcliff Grange School, Knowles' collection of true crime books includes works on Jonathan Wild, Eugène François Vidocq, and Colonel Clay. Wild and Vidocq are real people (who each inspired several famous fictional characters), and Clay is a fictional conman created by Grant Allen. | |
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Rendezvous with Rama, "Rama needed the grandeur of Bach or Beethoven or Sibelius or Tuan Sun, not the trivia of popular entertainment." | |
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In Superman #400 (1984), there is a vision of a future where Superman remembered as a legendary American hero alongside Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Dwight Eisenhower and "Kuhan Pei-Jing, who slogged through the ricefields of Asia negotiating to head off a third World War in the 1990s." | |
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The Star Diaries: In "The Eleventh Voyage", among the media allegedly absorbed by the Calculator, there are the texts of the stone steles (apparently those from Earth), then there are fictional books that have a Historical Domain Character as the author (e.g. three fiction Agatha Christie murder mysteries) or the subject (e.g. the biography of Jack the Ripper), and finally there are gems such as "the meeting protocols of the cannibals' section of the Neanderthal writers' union". | |
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The novels for Battletech usually quote "Judas, Adolf Hitler and Stefan Amaris" as the worst traitors in human history. In the backstory of the series, Amaris tried to usurp the throne of the Star League, a huge empire ruling all of mankind. He caused a massive civil war that led to so many succession wars that mankind has been reduced to five warring houses using schizo tech (fighting in giant mecha while rediscovering the fax kind of schizo tech). Except for the defense forces of the Star League, who fled the fighting to avoid being destroyed and devolved to a group of marauding warrior clans that want to take over those houses. | |
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A sample advertisement in the Cyberpunk sourcebook Home of the Brave claims that by going to Bram Jhonson New Life Clinic, the woman depicted in it gained better legs than Betty Grable, a better figure than Marilyn Monroe and a prettier face than Bes Isis; the last of the three is a famous in-universe musician. | |
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Inverted in Ex Machina: a traveler from an Alternate Universe arrives in the comic's universe (which is mostly identical to ours) and attempts to gather information by ordering his suit AI to connect to "gharity.com" and "skyvann.com". When both fail, he connects to ... Wikipedia. | |
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Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: | |
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Tunnel in the Sky: "...Cowpertown is safe in history, along with Plymouth Rock, Botany Bay, and Dakin's Colony." | |
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In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Court Martial", Simple Country Lawyer Samuel Cogley invokes The Bible, the Codes of Hammarubi and Justinian, the Magna Carta, the U.S. Constitution, the Fundamental Declarations of the Martian Colonies, and the Statutes of Alpha III. | |
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In The Secrets of Drearcliff Grange School, a tract on reshaping human society along purportedly scientific lines is said to have drawn favorable critical notice from H. G. Wells, G. K. Chesterton, George Bernard Shaw, and Roderick Spode. | |
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Farmer in the Sky: "...the first California settlers starved, nobody knows what happened to the Roanoke Colony, and the first two expeditions to Venus died to the last man". | |
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Futurama Prof. Farnsworth lists his influences as Leonardo da Vinci, Nicolaus Copernicus, Euclid, and Braino. The video parodying "Atlantis" by Donovan regarding the ancient history of Atlanta, and how all of its greatest citizens fled as it sank: "Ted Turner, Hank Aaron, Jeff Foxworthy, the man who invented Coca-Cola, The Magician ..." Leela is unimpressed by the last addition. The robot actor Calculon inverts the trope when he reveals that he was all of history's great acting robots, including Acting Unit 0.8, Thespo-mat, and David Duchovny. |
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Spider-Man: Homecoming The pictures of scientists at Peter's school include Bruce Banner, Howard Stark, and Abraham Erskine among several real ones. In a practice quiz during the trip to D.C. for the Academic Decathlon, Peter answers one question "strontium, barium, vibranium". |
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Girl Days inverts this by having Loony Kenchuro Tojo protest insults to his self-designed martial art by bringing up Emilio Fernberster (Inventor of the solar-powered flashlight), Mao Khu Leng (A Chinese alchemist who attempted to take over China with an army of animated yams) and Emperor Norton. | |
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Aurora Cycle:note The series is set in the 24th century, for reference. Tyler Jones studied the famous generals Sun Tzu, Hannibal, Napoleon, Eisenhower, Tankian, Giáp and Osweyo. | |
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Batwoman does a "famous, fictional, fictional" variation when Julia Pennyworth tells Kate she tracked a hitman from Jakarta to Metropolis to Gotham. | |
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In Marooned in Realtime, the background music at the Robinsons' party ranges "from Strauss waltzes, to the Beatles, to W. W. Arai": two real musicians from the 19th and 20th centuries, followed by a fictional one from the 21st. | |
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The opening narration of the first-ever episode of Blackadder does this: | |
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In Star Trek V: The Final Frontier: | |
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In the Doctor Who (Titan) Fourth Doctor miniseries Gaze of the Medusa, the Doctor says they're in 500 BC: | |
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Honoo No Alpen Rose: When Martha recalls famous Austrian composers, she names Bach, Lizst and...Aschenbach. Aschenbach refers to Leonhardt Aschenbach, who's Famed In-Story and said to be the secondcoming of Mozart. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: In one episode Giles hangs up a banner in the Magic Shop reminding customers that Winter Solstice, Hanukkah, Christmas, Kwanzaa and "Gurnenthar's Ascendence" are coming up. | |
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At one point in Stargate Atlantis, John Sheppard needs to get into Rodney McKay's computer account. The password is a long, seemingly-random string of digits, but fortunately he knows the mnemonic: | |
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Mass Effect: Andromeda: Several systems in the Heleus Cluster are all named after famous explorers from the histories of the various species present in the colonization effort. These include human examples (Eriksson after Leif Eriksson, Pfeiffer for the Austrian explorer and ethnographer Ida Laura Pfeiffer, Pytheas after the Greek geographer Pytheas of Massalia, and Zeng He after the eponymous Chinese navigator) and a number of alien ones exposited on in-universe (Dar'hegah for the first batarian astronaut, Kindrax for the first turian to cross one of Palaven's oceans in a balloon, and Tecunis for the first salarian expedition to reach the Citadel). | |
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When Voyager later encounters a memorial to the victims of a massacre, Janeway compares it to "the obelisk at Khitomernote The Klingon colony that was the site of the peace agreement between the Federation and the Klingon Empire in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, and was also attacked by Romulans; the victims included Worf's parents...the fields of Gettysburg". | |
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The Doctor lists some of the greatest performers of La Bohème. The first two pairs are real people, the other is a pair of Vulcans. Later on, he takes it a step further and actually summons up several great thinkers for a chat on the holodeck, including Gandhi, Lord Byron, Socrates, and T'Pau of Vulcan. | |
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Anthropology: Chapter 11, Lyra visits a book store and sees a rack containing a collection of various fantasy authors, including Robert Jordan, Steven Erikson, and Thomas Michelakos. Thomas is the important one, as he turns out to be Lyra's biological father. | |
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In Horizon Zero Dawn, one of the audio logs contains a snippet where the speaker compares himself to the great killers of history. | |
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Starman Jones: "Bees have cities, ants have cities, challawabs have cities." And from that same conversation: "Just like Robinson Crusoe, or Swiss Family Robinson—I can't keep those two straight. Or the first men on Venus." | |
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Babylon 5: In the episode "Infection", it's mentioned that Dr Franklin aspires to become one of the great names of medicine, alongside Fleming, Salk, Jenner, and Takahashi. This may be a subversion, as Takahashi did develop the first Chicken Pox vaccine, but never achieved great fame for it. In the second season episode "Confessions and Lamentations", the Markab plague Drafa is compared by Dr. Franklin to earlier such plagues — Black Death, AIDS, Chalmers' Syndrome. In the third-season episode "And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place": Although notably, the nuclear terrorist attack on San Diego had been mentioned on the show several times before and the ruins of the abandoned city had been shown on screen in a previous episode. (This was a production in-joke; series creator J. Michael Stracynski disliked San Diego, so he wrote in its destruction as a Take That!) In the fourth season episode "The Exercise of Vital Powers", William Edgars asks Mr. Garibaldi how many people actually belonged to the Nazi Party, the Communist Party, the Jihad Party. He then almost immediately goes on to list historical examples of when "the people" have handed over power to people they thought could settle scores: the Germans in 1939, the Russians in 1917 and 2013, the Iraqis in 2025, the French in 2112.... In the first episode of the fifth season, Sheridan is threatened by someone who lists past Presidents — Lincoln, Roosevelt, and Kyoshi, of the Eastern Bloc. In the fifth season episode "A Tragedy of Telepaths", this trope is first used, then stretched WAY out by Garibaldi when he points out we divide up our history by the wars — the Hundred Years War, the War of 1812, the first three World Wars... the Dilgar War, the War of the Shining Star, the Minbari War, the Shadow War. Of these "future" wars, only the third World War and the War of the Shining Star were not previously described in-series — the Dilgar War was mentioned first in "Deathwalker", and the last two were actually depicted in-show. |
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Lampshaded in The Last Starfighter, when Centauri brings up three people, but Alex doesn't recognize the last one. | |
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In The Wrong Reflection Eleya has replica posters on her old bedroom's walls for The Fifth Element, Mass Effect 2, and something called Adrian's Curse. | |
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Picard mentions Pearl Harbor and Station Salem One as stages for bloody preambles to war. | |
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