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God-Karting with Beelzebub
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God and Satan, in modern Christian mythology, are adversaries, with Satan rebelling against God at the birth of creation and striving to overthrow Him ever since. But what if that wasn't the case? Maybe Satan isn't so bad. Maybe he's fulfilling an important function, or just a guy doing a job. Maybe God is no better than Satan to begin with. For whatever the reason, some works portray Satan and God as allies, colleagues, or even friends. Portraying Satan this way has more basis in fact than might be obvious at first glance; in Jewish and early Christian mythology, Satan was God's employee, responsible for testing human souls through tribulation to strengthen their dedication to God. The modern version of Satan isn't drawn primarily from The Bible, but rather from Paradise Lost and The Divine Comedy, and to a lesser extent the early 20th century writings of Cyrus Scofield, creator of the philosophy of dispensationalism, the idea of The Rapture, and the pop-culture version of The Antichrist. Compare Go-Karting with Bowser, from which this trope draws its name, and Heaven's Devils, which is when all demons are working with or for God. |
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The Simpsons, in the Halloween Episode in which Lisa creates little people who think she's God. "The Devil [i.e., Bart] is your brother?!'' | |
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Ah! My Goddess: Hild, the ruler of the underworld, had a relationship with Tyr, the current Almighty of Heaven that resulted in Urd being born. (Had, because due to failing the test of the God of Judgement, they can no longer see each other. Hild violated this restriction to visit him one last time using a curse, meaning that they can no longer meet without her dying.) Urd herself is sort-of friends with Mara, and Belldandy, Friend to All Living Things, would happily have tea with anybody, divine or demonic. | |
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In the vampire comic book series Crimson, Satan is closer to God than the other (Knight Templar) Archangels, who both God and Satan disapprove of. | |
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Done interestingly in the Shin Megami Tensei series, due to taking the characters from the myths instead of compressing them into a singular devil character like is often done today. Though most are aligned against YHVH, one of the components of the modern devil — Satan, the snake who tempted Adam in Eden — is not only aligned with Him but is actually even His second in command and carries out His will in the second game. Amusingly, the second half of the trope namer, Beelzebub, very rarely actually has any form of either direct or indirect interaction with YHVH despite being aligned against him. | |
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In Lucy, the Daughter of the Devil, the devil is torn between wanting to kill Jesus and force his daughter to marry a corrupt politician instead, and befriending Jesus. | |
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Super Paper Mario has Grambi, ruler of the Overthere, and Queen Jaydes, ruler of the Underwhere, as husband and wife, respectively. | |
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The Game of the Gods has Varda (and diverse other gods and great heroes of The Lord of the Rings lore) all playing a game with Morgoth which involves the latter creating OP people for the former to kill them off using the laws of reality and canon. You can almost feel sorry for Morgoth sometimes. | |
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Hellsing Ultimate Abridged seems to have this dynamic between God and Satan, with Satan merely being socially awkward, affable, and super-apologetic about "that business with [God's] Son." God just seems more slightly uncomfortable around him than anything. | |
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In the Incarnations of Immortality books, JHVH is Satan's friend (when he first became an Incarnation, JHVH provided him with valuable advice and assistance. Satan later repaid his kindness by manipulating another Incarnation into making sure the holocaust doesn't happen). At the end of And Eternity..., Goddess(who is a separate Incarnation from JHVH) is Satan's stepdaughter, as it was his ultimate goal to give her the job. Note that this isn't because he's planning on doing anything evil: it's just the former holder of the position is a useless idiot not doing His job. | |
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Often done in God, the Devil and Bob. One episode has The Devil throw a strop and remove evil from the world because God "forgot" his birthday. They make up by the end. | |
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In Tripping the Rift, God and Satan are often found chatting with each other. | |
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Mikhail Bulgakov's treatment of Woland (the Devil) in The Master and Margarita. He likes to tempt mortals into traps. And though he does not meet God or Jesus 'onscreen', they're neutral at the very least. Woland punishes sinners, mocks atheists and obviously supports Christian worldview, and he fulfills Jesus's request on the Master's fate. | |
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The Vampire Chronicles: God and the Devil are on good although misunderstanding terms on the fate of humans in Anne Rice's Memnoch the Devil. This ties into an event told to Lestat by David Talbot about him overhearing God and the Devil speaking at a cafe. After his experiences in Memnoch the Devil, Lestat doesn't think that David hearing the conversation was a coincidence. | |
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Near the end of Disgaea: Hour of Darkness it's revealed that Seraph Lamington (leader of the angels) and King Krichevskoy (the late ruler of the demons) were close friends and the entire game was one big gambit to bring about peace between their two races. | |
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Lucifer (2016): At the end of the series Lucifer's brother Amenadiel has become the new God while Lucifer has chosen to remain in Hell to help the damned souls there find forgiveness for themselves and get to Heaven. As the two of them patched things up over the course of the series, they are on quite good relations. | |
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At the end of Bedazzled (2000), the Devil and God himself are seen playing a friendly game of chess in the park... although true to form the Devil does cheat. | |
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The plot of Faust: First Part of the Tragedy is set off by God and Mephistopheles having a friendly conversation in Heaven, which ends with God betting that Mephistopheles cannot turn over the scholar Faust to eternal damnation, and giving Mephisto free rein to tempt Faust. | |
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Mr. Deity and Lucy(fer) tend to be on relatively friendly terms. What antagonism does exist between them is more down to their on-and-off relationship than any major rivalry. | |
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The Grand Finale of Touched by an Angel sees Monica trying to get a promotion to supervisor by assisting in one final case: defending Zach, a good-natured drifter accused of causing an accident that killed most of the children in a small town. When Zach goes on trial, Monica discovers that the prosecutor is Satan in human form, and though she's able to convince the citizens to forgive Zach, he's still found guilty thanks to Satan's tricks. Monica declares that she'll become Zach's personal guardian angel to defend him, even if it means giving up the supervisor job—at which point it's revealed that the real trial was a Secret Test of Character for her. Zach is actually Jesus and knew Satan's identity the whole time, and the two clearly cooked up the plan together, with a friendly relationship between them as they work for the same side. | |
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One episode of South Park has Satan go to God for relationship advice. Note that they are portrayed as enemies, however — Satan is rather nervous about seeing God for the first time in thousands of years, and God seems perplexed that Satan's visit isn't about universal domination. Amusingly, when God hears the details of Satan's problem (having to pick between two different guys), He actually calls him out for going from a "headstrong rebel" to a "whiny little bitch" who can't stand up for himself. | |
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The Gray Garden has God and the Devil as partners and arguably a romantic couple. | |
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The devil in Casey and Andy is God's daughter. She was made ruler of Hell during her rebellious teenage years, but they've since reconciled. | |
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In an episode of Family Guy, God and The Devil are seen at a bar together. | |
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The devil and god races in SHUFFLE! are both are on equal ground with each other, completely without strife, and the leaders of both races are even shown as being good friends. In addition, the races have completely intermixed with the human world to the point that they can often be found going to the same schools as humans. | |
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In Oh, God! You Devil, God and The Devil are adversaries, but it's a rather friendly competition. | |
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A "friendly bet" version in Constantine (2005). This isn't actually proven to be the case, it's just Constantine's own impression of the situation. The pair also seem to be intentionally antagonistic with each other. | |
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