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Guns In Church is what occurs when a weapon is carried or brandished when not appropriate. When you have Guns In Church, the bank, the supermarket, the U.N., an airport, or anywhere else where the very mention of a weapon could be grounds for arrest, people in games are surprisingly aloof to the dangers it presents. As a result, everyone fantasizes about owning a sword/gun/etc that will never leave their side in all of life's journeys. In Real Life, however, throughout most of the developed world, life is just peaceful enough that this is typically a bad idea. With an individual who normally is expected to carry a weapon (such as a knight, policeman, or soldier), if they have a means to store a weapon that can be easily drawn, this trope then is restricted to them actually carrying it. (For example, a policeman who has a gun in his hand everywhere he goes, leaving his holster empty.) Some weapons (such as rifles, large machine guns, and Arm Cannons) can't be sheathed or holstered, and due to context, the trope is often averted by necessity. If you are a soldier, then chances are, not only do you play the trope straight, but you're actually better off for it. The same does not hold true for an average white-collar office drone walking down the street holding a claymore. (The mine or the sword). Compare Improbable Use of a Weapon, when a weapon may be appropriate, but the one used is unlikely or impossible. Also, Ornamental Weapon, where it is carried, but doesn't get used for other reasons. Averted in settings where carrying weapons is unremarkable because Everyone Is Armed. Brats with Slingshots has a tendency to reflect this trope but with Children. Axes at School is a sub-trope specific to schools. For when a shootout actually does take place in a church, this is combined with Bloodstained Glass Windows. If the clergy are taking an active part in the proceedings, they may be members of a Church Militant. |
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In the Iron Druid Chronicles the Atticus gets a lot of flak for carrying his sword with him in public despite there being nothing inherently illegal about it. Normally carrying a baseball bat will not look very suspicious but when Atticus was lurking in a nightclub parking lot after dark with two baseball bats the police justifiably thought he was up to no good. He really could not explain that he was backing up a witch in killing a bunch of monsters who were immune to iron. | |
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Played straight in Arena and Daggerfall, where nobody notices or seems to care that you are pointing your Daedric Longsword at them in a threatening manner. | |
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Averted in all 3 games of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., you can't enter most populated places with your weapon out and nearly no one will talk to you unless you put your weapon away. | |
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Brother Cadfael: The next-to-last scene in the short story "A Light on the Road to Woodstock" has a young boy tell off Cadfael (who is still an armsman at that point) for wearing his sword in church. This is mainly so Cadfael can leave the sword behind before asking to enter the Benedictine Order in the last scene. | |
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There's one stage in any of the games where you can basically carry any gun openly, in any outfit including the default. In Blood Money, one of the missions takes place at a large Mississippi crime family wedding in the father of the bride's mansion. The guests are so redneck that they don't bat an eye if you're carrying a scoped M4, although you do run into trouble if you run into the paranoid groom or if guards catch you in a restricted area while armed. You can even fire any gun you like while in the front yard, though if you hit anyone the guests will come after you with their guns. | |
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Avoidance of this is an actual play element of No One Lives Forever, as civilians are less than cooperative when Cate is brandishing, so use of quiet weapons and timely holstering are both necessary when in public levels. | |
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In the original Thank You for Smoking, the Merchants of Death try to spin an actual church shooting when an old lady in the congregation complains that she could have saved the situation if it had not been for the law requiring her to leave HER gun outside. | |
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Used twice in The Enforcer. First he chases a suspect into a church and has him at gunpoint when the minister gets pissed (then his partner kicks the door open with her gun drawn). Later he returns to the church to question the minister about someone in connection to the kidnapping (and potential murder) of the mayor and ends up drawing his gun when the minister refuses to talk. As Harry is dealing with that a woman dressed as a nun tries to shoot him with a shotgun, only for Harry's partner to show up and shoot the nun. | |
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Deus Ex: Invisible War averts this, though, as in certain areas you can have your weapons, but they are "locked down" so you can't use them. Also the strength mod is suppressed so you can't use items in the environment heavy enough to damage. | |
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Given its relative realism you'd expect that drawing weapons in a city might cause a ruckus, but Mount & Blade averts this, and with good reason. Calradia is in a state of constant war, with raiding parties, bandits, and mercenaries pretty much everywhere. A person carrying weapons openly while covered in plate armor is hardly worth a second glance, but civilian NPCs won't fuss if you happen to draw a spear and shove the pointy end in their face while talking to them. Shopkeepers blithely ignore the mace being waved in their faces by your character while you browse their wares, and even city guards will simply give you a generic 'don't cause trouble' message. The second game, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord, downplays it. While in a town characters will switch to a civilian outfit, which uses the same mechanics as your normal wargear but with your options restricted. Most swords (see Real Life below) are allowed, but more dedicated weapons of war like maces are not allowed. Certain quests will pit you in combat with your civilian gear, so there is incentive to use some of the light armor options that are allowed as civilian clothing. |
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In Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, the Shepardsons and the Grangerfords take their rifles everywhere, including church on Sunday. This is something from Real Life, at least in the old English-Scots Border region where many of the rural Southerners came from. The Border was a lawless and violent place, and if you didn't have a weapon at all times you'd likely meet someone who did have one and was willing to use it. On you. |
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In the otherwise forgettable video game for The Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon could not draw his lightsaber in Mos Eisley without putting the whole town on alert. The shopkeepers would also comment on you having your lightsaber out. |
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A gameplay element in Scarface: The World Is Yours. Waving a gun around causes people to flee and police interest to skyrocket. Paying off the cops is possible. Outright hiding works as well. Even crooks get nervous around your gun. It gets funky when you're trying to do in-game required missions in the middle of the street. | |
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Another aversion in Vice City Stories, where entering into the airport automatically strips you of all your weapons. The same goes for the golf course in Vice City, but there's an alternate path into the course that's not particularly hard to go through. | |
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Brass Eye evoked this in a satirical News Parody about America's fascination with handguns. | |
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Happens to Freddy in House of Cards (US). Freddy, a small restaurant owner, is about to start a nationwide franchise. He decides to share his good fortune with his son, who is also a gangbanger. His son does this trope twice: once in Freddy's shop, where Freddy temporarily convinces him to stop carrying a gun, and again, when a bunch of photographers are taking their pictures walking down the street. This last action has the effect of completely ruining Freddy - his son is on parole, carrying a gun is a parole violation, and his bond is slightly more than what Freddy's restaurant is worth. Freddy loses the chance at a national franchise (he was a gangbanger in his youth, and there was a morality clause in his contract), and has to sell his shop to get bond for his son, leaving him penniless. | |
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Premise of Tetragrammaton Labyrinth has the main characters fighting evil. They live in a church. Some fight scenes take place in churches. | |
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In Kill Bill, the Bride carries a katana onto a trans-oceanic flight and through the airport without trouble. Shots seem to suggest that everyone on the flight has a katana though. | |
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Jacob Clifton, one of the recappers at Television Without Pity, was so personally repulsed by this that for a time "guns in the temple" became his go-to metaphor for a character betraying principles for short-term goals. | |
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In Unforgiven sheriff Little Bill is deadly serious about enforcing the 'no guns in town' ordinance so any time a stranger in town is seen carrying any weapon, even holstered, it means big trouble. Either the stranger is about to shoot people or Little Bill is going to beat him into a bloody pulp. | |
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In an early episode of Supernatural, the brothers are hunting a shapeshifter and carrying around guns loaded with silver bullets in order to kill it. They flush it out of its lair and end up looking for it in the middle of a city with quite a few other people around. Sam takes pains to hide his gun, but Dean walks around with it up and at the ready. He receives quite a few nervous looks, but nobody calls the cops about it. | |
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The Church Knights in The Elenium are allowed to carry their weapons into churches, at least when they're in full armor. Which doesn't stop one priest from trying to invoke this trope on Sparhawk. | |
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A literal example happens in the prologue to Dobermann. Uncle Joe attempts to give the infant Dobermann his christening present—a .357 magnum—in the church. Dobermann's father, himself a hardened gangster, points out how inappropriate this is. | |
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On Combat Hospital all the doctors and nurses wear a sidearm strapped to their hip. They are soldiers in a war zone and are required to carry a weapon. | |
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In Knights of the Old Republic and its sequel, you can go anywhere, anytime with any weapon clearly visible in your hands, even Manaan, a planet under very strict pacifist rule. There is a moment on Tatooine in a cantina where the barkeep tells you not to use blasters inside, but he still seems okay with you waving one or two around. | |
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Grand Theft Auto: While taking a gun out while in a fight or police chase will get you shot at, feel free to walk down a street in Liberty City or San Andreas with an assault rifle and not get even a second look from a police officer. However, if you take a gun out inside a police station, they finally take notice (to the player's surprise if they went in to pick up a weapon and forgot it would automatically appear in their hands...) Another aversion appears in Grand Theft Auto IV, where walking into a strip club with a weapon out will get you attacked by the bouncers. Another aversion in Vice City Stories, where entering into the airport automatically strips you of all your weapons. The same goes for the golf course in Vice City, but there's an alternate path into the course that's not particularly hard to go through. |
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Skyrim drops the disposition mechanic from the series, removing any attempt at Averting the trope. Some NPCs, especially guards, may comment that you have your weapon drawn or a spell readied, but no one actually does anything about it. | |
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Explicitly averted in Persona 4. The Protagonist and Yosuke are ready to go into the TV World to find some clues on the murder of one of their classmates, so Yosuke brings along weapons for them to defend themselves with. Problem is, the portal to the TV World is a TV screen at the local supermarket. And the town IS on edge due to the murder investigation. A brief incident with the police later, they have to spend a few tense moments sweating it out with the Protagonist's uncle (the detective in charge of the investigation) and he spends the entire game being suspicious of his nephew's activities afterwards. They wisely decide to hide their weapons under their clothes next time. | |
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided functions similarly to Human Revolution, with certain areas preventing you from drawing your weapons or activating any weaponized augmentations. | |
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The casinos in New Vegas frisk guests for weapons, and thus the guards get understandably upset when you draw a weapon. Gets hilarious when you're treated politely while wearing full Brotherhood of Steel power armour and accompanied by an eight-foot-tall Super Mutant and a Cyborg German Shepherd, but the guards all pull guns if you slip on brass knuckles. | |
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Cave Story. No NPC will ever mind if you test your weapons inside their house. Not even Hermit Gunsmith while sleeping. | |
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2027, a Game Mod for Deus Ex, cleverly averts this by forcing you to leave your weapons with a bouncer when you enter a nightclub. | |
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In LEGO Star Wars, attacking anyone (friend, foe, droid, or neutral party) in the hubs will set off a bar brawl in which you can actually take damage and die. Though in the first game, once you buy a few villain characters this is the default state: Jedi and Sith will duel, good gunslingers will trade gunfire with mooks, etc. | |
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Played with in The Fighting Temptations. During the scene where several prison inmates are brought into the church choir, Paulina complains about the prison guards being armed as required by law. The piano player then says "Guns ain't allowed? Nobody told me." as he pulls a rather large revolver from his pants and places it on the piano. | |
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And throughout Fallout and 2 there are several places where people will tell you to put your guns away before they allow you to talk to them or walk into the town. | |
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Inverted in Black Lagoon as the church is the gun runner, appropriately called "The Violence Church" ("The Ripoff Church" by other people). Even head sister is armed with Gold plated and engraved Desert Eagle. Given the fact that this church exists in a Wretched Hive, it only makes sense. | |
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The Tollan in Stargate SG-1 defy this trope using advanced technology which disables both mechanical Earth guns and energy weapons. That said, SG teams (particularly SG1) walk around with their submachine guns on slings (and Teal'c holding his Goa'uld staff weapon since there isn't a holster or sling made that can hold that monster) in all kinds of relatively innocuous settings, like primitive villages and ultra-modern high-tech cities. Somewhat justified, since they are on alien planets at the time, and do need to be ready to defend themselves, just in case. |
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In Archer, "covert operative" Lana Kane frequently wears two guns openly in side holsters over her otherwise skintight clothing. | |
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The Legend of Zelda 3D games generally prevent Link from using weapons while in houses and other town buildings, but the 2D games allow him to commit violence everywhere. In particular, in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Link cannot draw his sword in Castle Town, though he can draw his sword and swing it around to his heart's content in every other town. An exception is Zelda II: The Adventure of Link: Link's sprites show him constantly holding his sword, even if he is in a peaceful town. One must wonder if this makes the townspeople nervous. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild is another exception, as you can brandish weapons absolutely anywhere and even swing them at civilians. | |
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Mostly averted in Mass Effect, as being a Spectre allows Shepard to go around armed wherever s/he pleases, and in the first game no one bats an eye if Shepard whips out a shotgun in a residential area and starts firing. There are a couple of exceptions where guards try to confiscate your weapons, i.e. the guards as Noveria and Purgatory, and one specific mission in Mass Effect 2 requires Shepard to go around unarmed, while another restricts Shepard to just his/her sidearm at a formal dinner party where only concealed sidearms are allowed. Keep in mind that even after the weapon crackdown between games, Shepard is still allowed to walk around the Citadel with a mini-nuke on his/her back. |
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Fable II: Carrying your weapons on your back (or on your side for that matter) is acceptable seeing as it is an archaic society, but, oddly enough, most NPCs keep their weapons in hammerspace. | |
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Being unarmed in the world of Fallout is generally a bad idea. There are, however, two notable exceptions: The New California Republic in Fallout 2 doesn't allow drawn guns within the city (they have a police force, after all) and waving your gun in someone else's face will penalize speech checks in Fallout 3. And throughout Fallout and 2 there are several places where people will tell you to put your guns away before they allow you to talk to them or walk into the town. Not exactly this trope but wearing your power armor everywhere can scare quite a few people. The casinos in New Vegas frisk guests for weapons, and thus the guards get understandably upset when you draw a weapon. Gets hilarious when you're treated politely while wearing full Brotherhood of Steel power armour and accompanied by an eight-foot-tall Super Mutant and a Cyborg German Shepherd, but the guards all pull guns if you slip on brass knuckles. |
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Faxanadu shows the main character holding his weapon even when he's in a town. Entering a house or shop, however, disables his weapon and magic, so that it looks like he's eagerly extending his hand as he walks around. This makes rooms with enemies in them the most dangerous locations in the game, as you can't fight back. | |
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Radd Spencer of Bionic Commando is warned not to shoot within neutral zones, but the fact that he brought a bazooka with him is perfectly okay. The computer, naturally, is not at all restricted, and can attack Radd freely. If he retaliates, he's killed by the peacekeepers. |
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Played with in Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven, where the player character stumbles in on the funeral of somebody that they murdered, and is recognized; the mourners draw their guns and a tactical shoot-out ensues. It turns out the family attending goes everywhere armed with their guns. | |
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In The Last Kingdom, Uthred gets into whole heaps of trouble when he not only carries but draws his sword in a church, in anger, in the middle of a service, in the presence of the king. | |
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Subverted in the K-9 sequel Film/K911: James Belushi's character gets into a discussion with his boss about the kind of sidearms he carries while on the job, at the same time brandishing each handgun in succession. His boss urges him to put them away several times. Later on in the same movie, while at the park, when he mistakes a toy gun for a real one, he pulls out his own. This prompts his partner/rival's police dog to charge him and bite his arm, making him drop the gun. |
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The second game, Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord, downplays it. While in a town characters will switch to a civilian outfit, which uses the same mechanics as your normal wargear but with your options restricted. Most swords (see Real Life below) are allowed, but more dedicated weapons of war like maces are not allowed. Certain quests will pit you in combat with your civilian gear, so there is incentive to use some of the light armor options that are allowed as civilian clothing. | |
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30 Rock: Pete is justifiably alarmed when Kenneth turns in a gun as well along with his page's badge. For non-fans: they work on a television show, folks. When Liz visits a bad neighborhood nicknamed "Little Chechnya", she asks if she just saw a man walking down the street holding a gun. She is told, "Yeah, but don't worry, he's not a cop." |
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John Wick sees John Wick shoot it out in a church with a couple of Viggo Tarasov's men and kneecapping the priest at first, with the second part of the fight taking place outside in the parking lot after Viggo and his enforcers show. Makes sense, given the church in question is actually a front for Viggo and all... From the John Wick franchise in general, "business" is expressly forbidden from being conducted on the premises of the Continental hotels. While one can prepare for "business" in a Continental, such as procuring guns and the like, one cannot conduct it there. The first movie sees Winston have a firing squad execute Miss Perkins for violating the sacred ground to collect on Viggo's doubled bounty on John Wick (and killing Harry). In John Wick: Chapter 2, Cassian and John's fight after his hit on Gianna (Cassian's boss) is broken up immediately the instant the fight bursts into the Rome Continental. And in the climax of Chapter 2, John violates the sacred rules of the New York Continental to kill Santino, rendering him excommunicado from the Continental. This leads to the plot of John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, where the High Table actually deconsecrate the New York Continental after John refuses to betray Winston, so they can send in their enforcers and Zero's gang to kill John and Winston. |
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The Hitman series of games takes this trope and tosses it off a cliff. If you carry ANY weapon that isn't concealed whilst wearing your default outfit, you will blow your cover and all hell will break loose, with the exception of one level in the entire series (so far), however if you have a guard's uniform on things get a bit more relaxed, you can carry two-handed weapons, however you can only carry them underslung, and they have to be standard issue to guards/security/gang members. (So if the guards are armed with SMGs, you can't be carrying around a gatling gun), carrying them "at the ready" is still allowed, but far more suspicious, but don't even THINK about aiming. Interestingly even if an alert has been raised, you can only ever have pistols concealed, even if other guards are running around pseudo-aiming, if you draw yours you will be fired upon the moment you are spotted. There's one stage in any of the games where you can basically carry any gun openly, in any outfit including the default. In Blood Money, one of the missions takes place at a large Mississippi crime family wedding in the father of the bride's mansion. The guests are so redneck that they don't bat an eye if you're carrying a scoped M4, although you do run into trouble if you run into the paranoid groom or if guards catch you in a restricted area while armed. You can even fire any gun you like while in the front yard, though if you hit anyone the guests will come after you with their guns. |
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Ultimatum: Why does Carol Danvers need to carry a BFG around in the Triskelion? | |
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Spoofed in Spy Hard, when Leslie Nielson's character sneaks into a church to rescue a girl, he has to deal with a bunch of violence-prone nuns, ending with nuns brandishing machine guns and trying to shoot at them! | |
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In Lupin III, Jigen is almost always armed, but does not bring them into church. However, at the beginning of The Plot of the Fuma Clan where the villains show up while he's in one, at a wedding, this leads to some embarrassment when he tries to draw his weapon, forgetting it's not there. | |
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The Elder Scrolls: Played with in different ways throughout the series. To note: Played straight in Arena and Daggerfall, where nobody notices or seems to care that you are pointing your Daedric Longsword at them in a threatening manner. Morrowind introduces a mechanic where speaking to an NPC with your weapon drawn will result in a disposition penalty with that NPC, and this was carried into Oblivion. Because the disposition penalty is so small, it Downplays the trope instead of Averting it. Skyrim drops the disposition mechanic from the series, removing any attempt at Averting the trope. Some NPCs, especially guards, may comment that you have your weapon drawn or a spell readied, but no one actually does anything about it. |
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Used for a joke early in Man of the House. When Texas Ranger Sharp and his partner go to a church to get information from an ex-con turned minister, Sharp keeps his gun with him. When reminded by his partner that they're entering a church, Sharp replies, "That's why I didn't bring the helicopter". | |
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Averted in Postal 2. Waving any kind of weapon around will scare people away and/or alert the police. The "E" key allows you to holster your weapon. Just wait until you get to the ACTUAL church! Islamic terrorists decide to attack the place, Catholic priests grab guns to fight back and you're stuck in the middle of it. No doubt you will have to pull your own gun out just to get out of here alive. |
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On Garth Marenghis Darkplace, most of the characters, who work in a hospital, seem to have guns at all times. This comes in handy when they're attacked by Animate Inanimate Objects, undead warlocks, and Scotsmen. | |
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In The Dark Side of the Sun a newly-appointed chief of security not only brings a stunner into buruku (a phnobic compound) but also uses Fantastic Slurs once in there and shoots someone. Phnobes are known for the two-foot knife they carry on their person... so the guy's career proves short. | |
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In a short film on an early episode of Saturday Night Live, they went around in a truck with a big sign that said "Show us your guns!" People from all walks of life proudly displayed their handguns, including an entire wedding party on the front lawn of a church, even the bride and groom. | |
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In Game of Thrones Viserys Targaryen, impatient with Khal Drogo, tries to intimidate him into giving him the army he was promised by drawing a sword on him...in Vaes Dothrak, a city in which it is expressly forbidden. The Khal merely signals his bodyguards to break his sword arm and hold him down while Drogo pours molten gold on him. | |
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Morrowind introduces a mechanic where speaking to an NPC with your weapon drawn will result in a disposition penalty with that NPC, and this was carried into Oblivion. Because the disposition penalty is so small, it Downplays the trope instead of Averting it. | |
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Deus Ex: Human Revolution averts this. Certain areas won't allow you to pull out your weapons, and in other areas, civilians will panic and/or refuse to talk to you if your gun is drawn. | |
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Subverted in Divine Divinity. People notice when you talk to them with your weapon drawn, and you are given the option to threaten them or attack them. | |
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Warhammer 40,000: A common joke regarding the Imperial Guard involves Guardsmen obsessively taking their standard-issue lasrifles everywhere, including to the latrines and, presumably, mass (granted, said mass is conducted by an organization that employs flamethrower-equipped nuns). Since IG regulations prescribe execution for losing an issue weapon outside of combat, they have a solid reason not to let it out of sight. | |
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In The Hunt for Red October, the Soviet ambassador states that although the USSR's submarines are massing on the US eastern coast, they are still in international waters and legally allowed to be there. The American president points out that in the USA someone may be legally allowed to carry a shotgun on their property but if your next-door neighbor starts patrolling his lawn with one while your children are playing on your lawn, you are not going to be happy about it. | |
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Averted in Perfect Dark, when wearing a disguise. If Joanna pulls out a weapon in front of a guard or is caught wielding one otherwise, her cover will immediately be blown, and she may even be accosted for it. | |
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It Happened in Hollywood: When Tim Bart becomes an Accidental Hero by foiling a bank robbery, nobody seems concerned that he was carrying a concealed loaded firearm inside a bank. | |
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Deus Ex: Certain areas will have a "No Weapons" sign when you enter them. Ignoring this sign will cause unarmed NPCs to panic, and armed ones to attack you. | |
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In Up, one of Ellie's friends or family members fires a single gunshot in one of the back pews after she and Carl kiss on the altar during their wedding. | |
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Zig-zagged in Fable. Upon entering the walled city of Bowerstone, the guards confiscate your weapons until you leave again. In smaller settlements, people react with anger or fear if your weapon is drawn and the City Guards will fine you if you don't put it away. Even in the wilderness, neutral NPCs get nervous if your weapons are drawn, even if you're defending them at the time. | |
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In the Gothic games, unsheathing a weapon or preparing an offensive spell out of combat will make people nervous, and they will attack you if you don't put it away after a few warnings. | |
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In Vampire: The Masquerade – Redemption, your characters could walk around in full tactical armour brandishing RPGs and flamethrowers, and police, store owners, and private citizens didn't bat an eye (in NYC this was bad enough but London?). Just don't get caught necking with someone in an alleyway... | |
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The protagonists and most recurring characters of City Hunter tend to carry at least a handgun everywhere but the bathroom, with the crowner being Umibozu bringing a machine gun and a bazooka at his own marriage. Justified by them being Professional Killers who could be attacked any moment, and in fact Umibozu's wedding was attacked by professional soldiers (Ryo, who was attending, had accidentally ruined a coup in a foreign country by protecting the escaped president, and the leader of the coup started his attempt at revenge with that attack). | |
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In Battlestar Galactica (2003), Season 3 begins with most of the humans under Cylon subjugation, while Tigh and a few others are part of La Résistance. Part of their strategy was hiding weapons in Caprican temples, which inevitably led to a shootout that left worshippers dead. Jacob Clifton, one of the recappers at Television Without Pity, was so personally repulsed by this that for a time "guns in the temple" became his go-to metaphor for a character betraying principles for short-term goals. |
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Fable: Zig-zagged in Fable. Upon entering the walled city of Bowerstone, the guards confiscate your weapons until you leave again. In smaller settlements, people react with anger or fear if your weapon is drawn and the City Guards will fine you if you don't put it away. Even in the wilderness, neutral NPCs get nervous if your weapons are drawn, even if you're defending them at the time. Fable II: Carrying your weapons on your back (or on your side for that matter) is acceptable seeing as it is an archaic society, but, oddly enough, most NPCs keep their weapons in hammerspace. |
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The first gun obtained in They Hunger, is in fact, found in a church. It lies next to the corpse of a Priest, who attempted to ring the church bell that unlocks his secret Dynamite stash. Someone apparently knew that a Zombie Apocalypse was going to happen sooner or later. | |
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From the John Wick franchise in general, "business" is expressly forbidden from being conducted on the premises of the Continental hotels. While one can prepare for "business" in a Continental, such as procuring guns and the like, one cannot conduct it there. The first movie sees Winston have a firing squad execute Miss Perkins for violating the sacred ground to collect on Viggo's doubled bounty on John Wick (and killing Harry). In John Wick: Chapter 2, Cassian and John's fight after his hit on Gianna (Cassian's boss) is broken up immediately the instant the fight bursts into the Rome Continental. And in the climax of Chapter 2, John violates the sacred rules of the New York Continental to kill Santino, rendering him excommunicado from the Continental. This leads to the plot of John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum, where the High Table actually deconsecrate the New York Continental after John refuses to betray Winston, so they can send in their enforcers and Zero's gang to kill John and Winston. | |
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This trope is outright defied in Highlander, as fighting on holy ground is expressly forbidden. | |
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Another aversion appears in Grand Theft Auto IV, where walking into a strip club with a weapon out will get you attacked by the bouncers. | |
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During Old Soldiers Never Die, Cain and most of the other Guard officers and commissars on the planet attend a funeral service at the cathedral. The priests aren't happy about all the sidearms but have to put up with it since they're part of the dress uniforms. The priests are even less happy when the corpses reanimate and those sidearms get drawn. | |
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Deus Ex Universe: Deus Ex: Certain areas will have a "No Weapons" sign when you enter them. Ignoring this sign will cause unarmed NPCs to panic, and armed ones to attack you. Deus Ex: Invisible War averts this, though, as in certain areas you can have your weapons, but they are "locked down" so you can't use them. Also the strength mod is suppressed so you can't use items in the environment heavy enough to damage. Deus Ex: Human Revolution averts this. Certain areas won't allow you to pull out your weapons, and in other areas, civilians will panic and/or refuse to talk to you if your gun is drawn. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided functions similarly to Human Revolution, with certain areas preventing you from drawing your weapons or activating any weaponized augmentations. |
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Ars Magica: The Archmage Philippus Niger always carries an unsheathed dagger of human bone; in fact, a potent magical talisman, on full display in his hand or his belt. With his rank of Protector of Durenmarnote (i.e., the most important Magical Library in Europe) and his widespread reputation of "Don't Mess With This Magus", he can get away with it. | |
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Duke Nukem 3D features a protagonist arming himself across various normal settings, including a movie theater, a burger chain, a theme park, a supermarket, and even a hotel. The trope is justified by the fact that there is an invasion underway. | |
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In The Weather Man, Nicolas Cage's character takes up archery as a hobby. At the end of the movie, he is seen carrying a bow over his shoulder as he walks down the city streets. In closing narration, he acknowledges that it might be why people don't throw things at him from their cars anymore. | |
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In Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, anywhere designated a 'combat' zone allows you to draw your heaviest artillery and blast away, with no worse repercussions than making nearby non-combatants panic. Normally, combat zones are in areas not covered by law enforcement anyway, but there are a few examples where you'd think you'd get some problems. The trope is inverted in one case, however: A certain enemy has to be killed without the use of firearms or you will be chewed out by the quest-giver, as the subsequent investigation into the enemy's death will have multiple witnesses hearing the gunshots. | |
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During the undercover missions in the early Medal of Honor games, pulling a gun out in front of German soldiers would blow your cover. But thanks to No Body Left Behind, taking out lone guards while their back was turned with your silenced pistol didn't. | |
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