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Guns vs. Swords

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Guns vs. Swords	comment	The timeless Internet argument. On many forums, the debate over whether guns or swords are better rages on. Common (but not necessarily true) statements from either side include: Guns Guns have longer range! Guns are easier to use! Guns are more common! Honor doesn't matter in a real fight! Guns are just cooler! Revolvers and shotguns are badass! Pulling the trigger is quicker and easier than swinging a sword! And thus, a quick bullet is more humane than being gutted by a sword! Guns can still be used as a melee weapon, even if you run out of ammo. Guns are still the weapon of choice for nearly all military and law enforcement agencies around the world. Swords Swords don't jam, misfire or need reloading! Swords do more damage to people! Swords are more honorable! Katanas can deflect and cut (certain) bullets in half! Swords are just cooler! Sword fights are more intense! Sword slashes are more practical and cover a wider area in close quarters! Depending where you live, legally obtaining a firearm may be impossible. Most countries today do not restrict swordsmanship or fencing (although openly carrying around a big sword might still get you in trouble). It's obvious that neither side will give in any time soon. So here are some examples of this playing out in fiction, and notable Real Life examples. Please remember that this is NOT about which is better! Related to Katanas Are Just Better, Shotguns Are Just Better and Revolvers Are Just Better. See Sword and Gun and The Musketeer for when someone decides to pack both. See Mix-and-Match Weapon for when swords and guns, along with other weapons, are fused together into a weapon that will be cooler than both but may or may not work. If this trope is used, it may also be used alongside a Magic Versus Science argument, though not always. It can also be justified with a Retro Upgrade for melee weapons. Authors sometimes use Fantasy Gun Control to enforce their preference for swords. Also, take note that both sides have more in common than you might think, at least thematically
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Guns vs. Swords / int_10ddd3d5	comment	Near the end of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Auru saves Link from a pack of sword-wielding mooks by shooting them with a bazooka.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1506285e	comment	In Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny, you can have a competition with the gunfighter to see which is better: Your katana or his rifle, seeing who can kill the most enemies in a fixed period of time. Of course, this is a katana against a 16th century matchlock. In real life, the gunman would have only been able to shoot a handful of times in the timeframe involved.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_16a43fa1	comment	In the really terrible anime Musashi Gundoh, everyone dual-wields a gun and a sword, except for the main character, who just uses guns.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1869a077	comment	Samurai Jack tends to lean both ways with this. Guns in the hands of mooks are typically pretty useless against the sword-swinging samurai, but any gun user with training and experience, like the Clench Family and The Scotsman, are able to use them with great effect. The Clenches actually were losing against Jack until they brandished their guns, which quickly turned the battle in their favor, and they only lost because they were forced to switch back to melee (as to not shoot out the train engine) and because Josephine betrays Zeke which gives Jack an opportunity to escape.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1beda93b	comment	Sluggy Freelance compares the two, complete with Star Wars reference, here. Judging by the next strip, Torg ultimately decided a gun (or three) and a sword was the best option.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1cc09117	comment	Bleach has Dual Wielding for both Captain Shunsui Kyoraku (Swordsman) and his opponent, Espada Coyote Starrk (Gunslinger). On top of that, both are Combat Pragmatist that pull every dirty trick in the book to win. Kyoraku wins. It's apparently a running gag for Kyoraku, who later ends up facing two more gun wielders during the Vandenreich invasion. Kyoraku loses against the first one, then requires Nanao's help against the second.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1de234dc	comment	In Destroyermen, the titular sailor quickly introduce muskets to the Lemurians. However, since the Grik tend to favor hum- err.. Grik wave tactics, most battles devolve into melee anyway, with Grik warriors slashing with their swords, or using their natural weapons (claws and teeth). This doesn't devalue the guns, though, as they still tend to even out the odds (the Grik are far more numerous). Still, guns have to be supported by melee fighters, even after breech-loaders are introduced. Later on, though, the Grik start manufacturing their own firearms, so combat becomes less about melee and more about musket/bullet volleys. Bayonet charges still happen, though. This is also true with the war against the Holy Dominion, as Dom troops also use muskets and bayonets.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_1e015a5d	comment	Guns. There's Han Solo's declaration that "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid." In The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader proves him wrong. On Hoth in the same film, Han uses Luke's lightsaber briefly (the only non-jedi to do so in the classic trilogy) to cut open Luke's mount. Two factors make guns preferred for most people. First is the power beind the "hokey religion" is actually real and observable. Second, only a select few can actually tap the power and it still takes training to use the power to effectively use the sword. The Empire Strikes Back is the only time Luke has used both weapons during battle. By the next film, he ditched the gun upon becoming a Jedi.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_223c2a48	comment	The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Link, while using a variety of weapons, is best known for his swordsmanship. One of the bosses is Windblight Ganon, who has an Arm Cannon. He later faces off against Ganon's physical form, who wields both a similar gun and a set of swords.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_24ffd341	comment	It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode "Gun Fever Too: Still Hot" has Mac and Charlie get into an argument over this, with Mac supporting swords and Charlie supporting guns. Atypically for Charlie, he ends up dead on the money; no matter how much Mac blusters and tries to change up his "maneuvers", Charlie points out that all he has to do is shift his aim slightly and pull the trigger, and Mac is dead.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_2819aebd	comment	In the Mega Man (Classic) series, swords tend to do more damage per ammo cost than most ranged attacks to compensate for lack of range. Examples are Slash Claw from Mega Man 7 and Flame Sword from Mega Man 8.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_28569895	comment	Can be seen as a theme within Total War: Shogun 2, especially if you move from the main game to the last expansion. The classic campaign takes place during Japan's Sengoku period, which saw firearms introduced to the country by Western traders. Arquebuses are inaccurate and slow to fire, but dangerous in salvos and good at breaking Ashigaru units. But since getting gunpowder weapons in great numbers involves either going deep into the tech tree or dishonoring yourself by dealing with foreigners (or worse, converting to Christianity!), for most daimyo it's much more practical to focus on katana-toting samurai, which are extremely effective in close combat. But then comes the Fall of the Samurai campaign, set during the Boshin War. Not only are handheld firearms much more dangerous and widespread, you can also field powerful artillery pieces like Gatling guns. It's possible to refuse to modernize and win the game with a "traditional" army, but in most cases bringing a bunch of swords to the battlefields in this era is just asking for a massacre. In addition, naval battles in the previous campaigns were heavily geared towards grapple-and-board tactics, unless you deal with the West and get a few nanban trade ships with cannons. While boarding is still an option in Fall of the Samurai (except for ironclads), it's generally a bad move to try it, as the action leaves your ship vulnerable to a quick death by cannonball (especially if the enemy is using exploding shot).
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Guns vs. Swords / int_2ea6ae26	comment	Star Trek: Picard: A Romulan who threatens Elnor in "Absolute Candor" is confident that a tan qalanq is no match for a disruptor, but Elnor proves him wrong in "The Impossible Box" and "Nepenthe" because a lone Qowat Milat can easily carve up several adversaries equipped with energy weapons with just a sword.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_32066b8e	comment	The ending sequence for the V for Vendetta movie - the bad guys shoot up V with submachine guns. But, thanks to his superhuman strength (and metal chest plate) recovers enough strength to kill them all with his many knives before they can reload. He still succumbs to the gunshot wounds after all is said and done, however.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_370f4bc0	comment	The protagonist in practically every continuity of Zoids ends up using a blade-wielding mecha against plenty of guns.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_386eaf91	comment	Seven Samurai pits seven samurai with swords (and a civilian militia with spears) against forty bandits. While the bandits are wiped out, four of the samurai die as well, most of them to the three bandits who had muskets. If the bandits had one or two more guns, the samurai might have lost.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_3d22c14b	comment	In Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Season 2, in his last battle Ali Al-Saachez claims that close range combat is the best. He's then defeated by Lockon Stratos and his Gundam's beam pistols.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_3e8c09b9	comment	We get this late into Attack on Titan once the Military Police's Central 1st Brigade gets introduced and they clash with the Survey Corps.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_42bb8b78	comment	Part way through episode "War" of Æon Flux Aeon is already dead by this point (not a spoiler, she always dies), and the guy who killed her is making is way through armies of mooks. He is brought up short by a guy doing fancy twirly moves with a sword. He watches for a moment, and sardonically looks at his gun. After a moment, he simply shoots the guy... who then deflects the bullet with his blade and impales our hero in a single swift move. And onwards...
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Guns vs. Swords / int_43a9c333	comment	In Cowboy Bebop, Spike uses a gun, and his rival, Vicious, uses a katana. They're shown to be equal fighters, at least partially because Vicious recognizes the limits of his weapon and uses stealth to get up close. Having said that, both times they fight, Spike has already taken at least one gunshot wound. But since it's a Heroic Bloodshed show, it can be questioned whether they slow him down.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_49a87cb3	comment	Final Fantasy VII: Barrett's weapons range from big metal balls to Gatling guns, all of which attach to his right arm. Vincent uses a rather large pistol, while Cloud uses a BFS. Regular soldiers are seen wielding assault rifles, and heaver mechanized weapons do exist.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_49a88435	comment	Final Fantasy XII is where things get a little interesting. The airships are armed with heavy machine guns, but for ground combat, swords and armor is the preferred method of fighting. The man-portable guns that do exist are of the Blunderbuss variety.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_4fcbe146	comment	A futuristic take on the trope from Strider: Hiryu is the unmatched expert of the Cypher, a Laser Blade which generates an edge of white-hot plasma. His first rival, the Bounty Hunter Solo, instead relies entirely on firearms to fight, using a giant plasma gun/cannon, a handgun and other weapons like mines and missiles.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_5082a6a	comment	This is why The Three Musketeers are primarily remembered for the scenes in which they fight with swords even though their name clearly states that they were the king's elite musket users.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_550ba959	comment	In Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, a ludicrously effective strategy is using Marathon (for unlimited sprinting), Lightweight (to move faster), and Commando (which lets you stab enemies from a longer distance away) - and use a pistol with a tactical knife attachment (to stab faster). Essentially, this lets you dash everywhere and stab everyone for a one-hit kill. Granted, if someone sees you coming, they can gun you down from a distance pretty easily, but ninja-ing your way through the maps is still quite effective. Marathon and Lightweight mean a player sprints all the time and so fast one can easily run straight at claymores—their explosion is delayed by a fraction of a second, enough for a runner to be in the safe zone when it blows up. Even more ludicrous when said runner uses Commando to stab an enemy hiding behind the claymore...
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Guns vs. Swords / int_58ffa5db	comment	Similarly, in The Lost Regiment, when the Americans start arming the local Medieval Russians with guns, they prove to be fairly effective against the sword-and-bow armed Tugars. Despite their size (an average Valennian is around 9 feet tall, and they tend to fight on horseback), a single bullet can kill one as well as a human. In later books, the other hordes start producing guns of their own in order to destroy the growing threat of the Republic, despite their natural aversion to new things.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_5afd9407	comment	Exaggerated in "Okuyyuki", which goes one better and makes it T-72 tanks vs katana. Reilly takes on four of them with only his sword. He wins, but is mortally wounded in the process.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_5e91c7d	comment	Resident Evil 4: Leon and Ada have a flashy knife-to-gun fight. In the end, Leon gets the upper hand, disarms Ada and holds his knife to her throat. He lets up, though. Any time Krauser shows up, you're far better off using knives than guns. The first "fight" against him, being an onslaught of Press X to Not Die moments in a cutscene, is your clue that knives are your weapon of choice against this guy. In the second (and final) battle against him, your knife does about as much damage to him as the upgraded magnum.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_5ed0937c	comment	In a team up event, Blade and The Punisher meet on a rooftop. Punisher has a gun to Blade's head and Blade has his sword to Punisher's neck.◊
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Guns vs. Swords / int_60804f39	comment	GUN×SWORD fits in with the above examples. Van uses a sword, Ray uses a gun.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_60fad6e	comment	Zigzagged in Way of the Samurai 4. Gameplay seems to favor the sword a lot more, as swords are more durable and have more devastating techniques, while guns do minimal damage and break after a few uses. But in cutscenes, whenever someone wields a gun, expect another character to be heavily injured or even killed.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_6b3cfe38	comment	During Bob and Mynd's first encounter in Bob and George, Bob, who is armed with a blaster, mocks Mynd for choosing to wield a lightsaber against him. Mynd, in response, goads Bob into attacking first, and as it turns out, Mynd has shielding to protect him.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_6bcd58c7	comment	Miho wields her katanas against guns all the time in Sin City and wins.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_6cd3b44f	comment	Black Lagoon: Episode 12 had a scene where Revy and Blade Enthusiast mercenary Shenhua argued about whether guns or knives were better, and then decided to demonstrate their points by slaughtering a small army pursuing them. Also, Revy vs. Ginji, who does in fact wield a katana and can cut bullets in half with it. After much bullet-slicing and Gun Kata, Revy wins.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_729e2044	comment	Although it's not strictly guns versus swords, in The Expendables Barney Ross and Lee Christmas are in constant disagreement over which weapon is better: guns or knives. Barney favors guns, Lee favors knives.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_73a9c933	comment	In The Walking Dead, the question is posed as to which is more efficient after the zombie holocaust after Michonne joins the cast. Michonne's sword proves invaluable, as it can be used to kill endless waves of zombies without running out of ammo, though its obviously much less effective when fighting human enemies. One of the best things about her sword is that it enables the crew to safely kill zombie hoardes while saving their firearms ammo for more formidable threats like armed hostile humans.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_74f7210c	comment	The Legend of Zelda Near the end of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Auru saves Link from a pack of sword-wielding mooks by shooting them with a bazooka. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Link, while using a variety of weapons, is best known for his swordsmanship. One of the bosses is Windblight Ganon, who has an Arm Cannon. He later faces off against Ganon's physical form, who wields both a similar gun and a set of swords.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_755b343f	comment	All of the Halo games feature plasma-sword wielding Elites, alien commanders who charge into battle against gun-toting humans. Multiplayer and campaign missions often see the gun vs sword debate play out literally, when the covenant plasma sword faces a human 8 gauge shotgun. There is even a multiplayer mode called infection dedicated to scatterguns or pistols vs swords. Amusingly, both the sword and the shotgun are effectively melee weapons. The shotgun has slightly greater range but the energy sword comes with a lunging attack that outdistances the lethal range of the shotgun. Duels between the two tend to be SingleStrokeBattles where either the shotgun user intercepts the swordsman mid-lunge with a fatal buckshot burst, or gets stabbed after either misjudging his distance or being caught by surprise.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_76c0e1c2	comment	The iOS game Ravenmark: Scourge of Estellion takes place in a Standard Fantasy Setting with the titular Empire of Estellion (the strongest nation in this world) has a typical Medieval army (albeit with some Wind and Blood Magic used here and there). However, the neighboring Commonwealth of Esotre has made great strides in technology and alchemy, as their land is much harsher, and survival there requires innovation. Thus, their front-line troops are Fusilier Linesmen armed with single-shot muskets. According to the in-game Codex, Fusiliers usually only get one shot per battle before they close with the enemy and fight hand-to-hand. Thus, their muskets have two bayonets attached to them. In the gameplay, however, they can fire every turn. Fusilier Militia are mostly melee troops, although they can use their Volley ability to fire their muskets every 3 turns. For the most part, Imperial troops do just as well with your typical Medieval weapons like swords, spears, and bows. However, elite Sotran marksmen called Greyjacket Riflemen lower the defense rating of any enemy on a successful hit.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_76e539c2	comment	The extra "After Days" chapter of the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS manga featured Nanoha vs Signum in an exhibition match, complete with combat commentary that contrasted the fighting techniques of the two combatants. Nanoha is The Ace with her Beam Spam-dispensing Boom Stick. Signum is a Master Swordsman from Ancient Belka. Who will win? It ends in a tie.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_79e85fc7	comment	The hero and villain of The Following exemplify this trope- gun toting FBI agent Ryan Hardy and Serial Killer Joe Carroll.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_7ac38ec4	comment	Rebuild World: The protagonist Akira, who is a perpetual Multi-Ranged Master and Walking Armory, gets into arguments with the Ninja Maid duo Shiori and Kanae about which is better. For Akira, close combat is synonymous with injuries sustained while being moved like People Puppets by his Virtual Sidekick Alpha. However, Akira gradually takes a shine to swords, and eventually uses Sword and Gun when needed, while still picking on Kanae for using the Power Fist, which makes her complain about Friendship Favoritism.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_7b56eee0	comment	New Horizon has rules for melee and ranged combat. Melee usually does more damage, but ranged weapons can be used from atop fortress walls. Also, the melee weapons are better able to pierce though though hides and armor, so they tend to be more useful to fight the local wildlife and heavy infantry. Guns are good for softening up targets from a distance and taking care of squishy unarmored humans. Otherwise, the advantage of Melee weapons is that they do more damage by increasing strength and close combat, where with ranged combat only the chance to hit is increased.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_7eceb06d	comment	Fable II allows the protagonist to use both guns and swords and faces enemies that use both. Both have advantages and disadvantages, but a character can theoretically use either exclusively.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_81c0c165	comment	Final Fantasy: Unlimited: Part of the premise of the story is that it pits Kaze (gun) against Makenshi (sword).
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Guns vs. Swords / int_83759c7	comment	Elsa Bloodstone in Nextwave was a combat specialist, and mostly stuck to using guns, but upon facing a bunch of samurai robots, she declares "Samurai Robots beat guns. Every time." So she drops her guns, pulls out her own sword, and proceeds to face them that way. And by sword we mean Shovel.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_86814ea1	comment	Final Fantasy XV has this as part of it's modern aesthetic, with the Empire using primarily guns but having some Magitek Troopers that use axes and swords, and the Lucians primarily using swords but Prompto specifically using revolvers. The continued use of melee weapons in the setting is justified by the fact that Nocits and members of the Kingsglaive are prone to Teleport Spam and as such can just warp past bullets, hence why Nifelheim employs melee troops and Daemons to combat them.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_8966a34	comment	In Medabots this is on display with the Japanese Beetle Brothers Metabee and Rokusho. Metabee specializes in long-range weaponry including a rifle, sub machine-gun, and missile launcher, while Rokusho's signature weapon is a pair of scissors fashioned into a Blade Below the Shoulder.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_9614fa1e	comment	In a famous scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark, Indiana Jones is confronted by a formidable sword wielder. So Indy just shoots him. Allegedly a hasty rewrite. An epic Sword Fight was planned but Harrison Ford had a minor back injury when it was due to be filmed. Comedy and pragmatism took the day. Another version has Ford suffering from diarrhea that day. All the cast and crew got food poisoning at some point during filming in Tunisia, aside from Steven Spielburg who only ate canned food.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_9696c53b	comment	Ash clearly demonstrates the superiority of a double-barreled shotgun over a broadsword in Army of Darkness.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_98e2fba4	comment	Deadliest Warrior has many warriors fight each other, though most have weapons from a similar era. This is the exception for Knight vs Pirate. Knight can be considered one of the most powerful ancient warriors due to its armor and metallurgy of weapons while Pirates are one of the oldest gunfighters and had no long ranged rifles or muskets in the match. While the Pirate did have a sword he obviously prefered gunpowder weapons as well. While the Knight has more skill, better melee weapons, more money and armor these factors were pointless in the face of the Pirate's weapons. The Grenado exploited the small gaps within the Knight's armor and could still harm a Knight to some degree if it was stopped by the armor, but the Blunderbuss especially dominated the fight with its ability to pierce through the Knight's armor with ease and could aim accurately before the Knight could even get in close.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_9d0340d	comment	Featured prominently in Sukiyaki Western Django, all manner of weapon was used, culminating in a dual between the Hero and the Big Bad in the final scene, with the hero using a pistol against the Big Bad's Katana. He even parries a strike from the Katana, locking it against the finger guard. As shown in this picture◊
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Guns vs. Swords / int_9d189394	comment	Mock the Week: "A lot of you will be wondering, why there are so many wonderful treasures on display here, at the British Museum. Now, it is quite simple, really: Gun beats spear!"
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Guns vs. Swords / int_9db1766a	comment	Devil May Cry: While Dante also uses a sword, he also uses his guns Ebony & Ivory, and accumulates a wide variety of firearms over the course of the series. His Evil Twin Vergil sticks to his sword and only uses a gun in the final battle with Arkham. In fact, outside of Devil May Cry 2, Lady in Devil May Cry 4 and some cases of Awesome, but Impractical, guns in this series consistently do less damage than swords, usually being used for juggling enemies and keeping your style rank from going down.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_a328d9b5	comment	The final confrontation between Tom Welles and Machine in 8mm has the former wielding a pistol and the latter a knife. Machine hides the blade until he can throw it at Welles, making him drop the gun, but Welles manages to yank the knife out of himself and fatally stab Machine.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_a366d0a8	comment	Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth: The Phantom Thieves' first encounter with the Investigation Team has their leaders get into a brief scuffle, in which Yu wields his sword and Joker parries with his model gun. Joker's reasoning for using his gun instead of his dagger can be either for a bluff, to try and legitimately do damage, or forgetting that the cognitive aspect of the model gun doesn't work in the labyrinth.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_a81325d3	comment	In the later Final Fantasy games, the two exist side by side, mostly due to Charles Atlas Superpowers as well as Magic being prominent. Some examples: Final Fantasy VII: Barrett's weapons range from big metal balls to Gatling guns, all of which attach to his right arm. Vincent uses a rather large pistol, while Cloud uses a BFS. Regular soldiers are seen wielding assault rifles, and heaver mechanized weapons do exist. Final Fantasy VIII: Irvine uses a rifle while Zell beats on things with his fists. Laguna uses an assault rifle and grenades, but his parter Kiros uses Katals. Squall's gunblade is just a sword that can detonate on impact for extra damage. Final Fantasy XII is where things get a little interesting. The airships are armed with heavy machine guns, but for ground combat, swords and armor is the preferred method of fighting. The man-portable guns that do exist are of the Blunderbuss variety. Final Fantasy XIII takes it one step further. Assault rifles are now the default weapons for armies, along with grenade launchers and the occasional baton. Lightning uses a weapon that converts between a gun and a sword, Snow punches things, and Sazh uses dual pistols that combine into a rifle. Final Fantasy XV has this as part of it's modern aesthetic, with the Empire using primarily guns but having some Magitek Troopers that use axes and swords, and the Lucians primarily using swords but Prompto specifically using revolvers. The continued use of melee weapons in the setting is justified by the fact that Nocits and members of the Kingsglaive are prone to Teleport Spam and as such can just warp past bullets, hence why Nifelheim employs melee troops and Daemons to combat them.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_a949e666	comment	In Elysium, the Big Bad Kruger is able to take on several gun-wielders with his katana. It helps that he has an energy shield and other pieces of tech to give him an edge.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_aacd24cb	comment	StarCraft has a surprisingly high amount of bladed weapons for a sci-fi series. For example, Protoss Zealots can easily cut down most of the conventionally armed Terran Infantry in the first game, and the sequel even gives them a charge ability to quickly close the distance.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_afac34b0	comment	The Lords of Creation. Lampshaded in the prologue of In the Courts of the Crimson Kings. The first pictures from Mars show the inhabitants are armed with firearms and swords. Some speculate that it's due to a code of honor, but it's pointed out that it would give the cheaters too much of an advantage. It turns out Martians use biotechnology guns that are slow to reload, so they need to have a weapon handy in the interim.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_b0028436	comment	JoJo's Bizarre Adventure has Jean-Pierre Polnareff (sword) and Hol Horse (gun) holding a silly, shonen-esque debate on whose weapon is better. Judging from the final outcome, Polnareff wins. He successfully kills Hol Horse's accomplice, while Hol Horse not only runs away, but his apparent headshot on Avdol also misses at the last second.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_b0b4e8ff	comment	In Jade Empire, one of the characters you encounter is Sir Roderick Ponce von Fontlebottom the Magnificent Bastard (voiced by John Cleese) who keeps dueling people with his arquebus called Mirabelle and, of course, winning, since the people of the Jade Empire have never seen a firearm (they assume it simply makes fireworks). The player can challenge Sir Roderick and get his weapon after beating him. One of the styles available to the player is sword-fighting.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_b962c879	comment	In Fairy Tail, Erza (swordswoman) and Bisca (gunslinger) use the same kind of magic and the latter admires the former.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000 is all about charging the enemy before he can gun you down, or shooting him before he can reach you. Though many units designed for close-combat use Sword and Gun as the rules make having a pistol and melee weapon the same as having two melee weapons for lots of melee weapon types except you can shoot with the pistol, combining two great tastes in one.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_c0d295c4	comment	Team Fortress 2 deliberately omits effective close combat firearms and has melee weapons buffed in its mechanics to make them practical. This culminates in Demoknight loadup which only uses melee weapons but is still pretty competitive.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_c4778e4b	comment	As Mythbusters has pointed out, katanas cannot cut through gun barrels, because the barrels are quite strong indeed.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_c72021c5	comment	While guns in Deus Ex are good weapons, halfway through the game you get a sword that OHKOs most enemies you meet and allows you to take on bots in close combat.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_cb55ac08	comment	In the Seekers of the Sky duology, iron is extremely rare and valuable. As such, while firearms exist, they are few and far between, with only nobles typically able to afford them. The protagonist Ilmar recalls a battle he participated in, where his unit commander, a nobleman, used a machinegun to fire at the approaching enemy ranks. While some enemies fell, they still managed to get close and turn him into a pincushion with their swords. The State's Praetorian Guard regiments are made up of elite nobleborn soldiers, so each is armed with a gun as well as a sword (maybe even a steel sword, if the soldier is wealthy enough, although probably bronze).
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Guns vs. Swords / int_cc8fd137	comment	The Last Samurai portrays this quite well, but it should be noted that the real revolution on which the movie was based featured firearms being used on both sides, rather than samurai refusing to use such weapons.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_cf8d31cb	comment	Yojimbo pits a gangster with a revolver against a shitstirrer with a katana.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_d2bb929d	comment	In the Soul Series, Mitsurugi's bio mentions that he lost a duel against a rifleman, and wants to find the Soul Edge because it's superior to any other weapon, including guns (he also spent a good part of his time devising techniques against firearms). Expanding on above example: Mitsurugi's ending in Soul Blade gives you a special, first-person-perspective fight against a soldier wielding an old, front-loaded rifle, dubbed 'Tanegashima' after the old Japanese word for firearms. If you don't do EXACTLY the right thing the moment the battle starts, you'll get shot, and get the 'bad ending' (which is also the canonical one, as stated above). However, if you step to the side the moment the battle starts, you can dodge the bullet, then quickly close the distance before the rifleman can reload, and cut him down - giving you a Good Ending where Mitsurugi declares that he has no need for the Soul Edge, since his own badass sword-skills are enough to take on even firearms. Mitsurugi eventually abandons his pursuit of Soul Edge when he becomes strong enough to defeat riflemen on his own.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_dab32e3	comment	Mega Man X: Ever Since Zero became fully playable since Mega Man X4, this trope becomes the player's decision- X's Arm Cannon or Zero's Laser Blade. Also, X v.s. Zero in Mega Man X5. Whichever weapon comes out on top is decided by the player.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_e3876b26	comment	In Digimon Frontier, EmperorGreymon and MagnaGarurumon are all over this. The first does battle with a BFS and dragons made of fire, while the second is carrying maybe a half-ton of weaponry in lasers, bullets, and rocket launchers.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_e5d745cd	comment	Played straight in Gunz. Your character is equipped with guns and swords. Swords do more damage, can deflect bullets, and glitch up the game in advantageous ways. Guns are guns.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_e82c9823	comment	Similar to the above example, Black Cat has the protagonist using a gun while his archenemy uses a sword. They are pretty evenly matched regardless. Sephira, however, is actually the best swordsman in the series.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_e863cc41	comment	Also referred to in Mega Man Battle Network. Title Character MegaMan uses an Arm Cannon as his signature weapon, while The Rival ProtoMan makes use of a Blade Below the Shoulder.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_e8fd0bb3	comment	An interesting version occurs in YuYu Hakusho, where the protagonist Yusuke's signature technique is the Spirit Gun, while his friend and rival Kuwabara has a Spirit Sword.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_eb6719f6	comment	Final Fantasy VIII: Irvine uses a rifle while Zell beats on things with his fists. Laguna uses an assault rifle and grenades, but his parter Kiros uses Katals. Squall's gunblade is just a sword that can detonate on impact for extra damage.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_eb6802b4	comment	Final Fantasy XIII takes it one step further. Assault rifles are now the default weapons for armies, along with grenade launchers and the occasional baton. Lightning uses a weapon that converts between a gun and a sword, Snow punches things, and Sazh uses dual pistols that combine into a rifle.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_ed2a7866	comment	Sword Art Online presents this quite literally in its third arc, where Kirito enters the world of Gun Gale Online. Despite having poor accuracy and fighting many opponents with guns, Kirito is able to defeat them all by equipping a photon sword and using his reflexes to deflect bullets, something no other user has ever even attempted.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_ef8bd4a5	comment	Mega Man: In the Mega Man (Classic) series, swords tend to do more damage per ammo cost than most ranged attacks to compensate for lack of range. Examples are Slash Claw from Mega Man 7 and Flame Sword from Mega Man 8. Mega Man X: Ever Since Zero became fully playable since Mega Man X4, this trope becomes the player's decision- X's Arm Cannon or Zero's Laser Blade. Also, X v.s. Zero in Mega Man X5. Whichever weapon comes out on top is decided by the player. Also referred to in Mega Man Battle Network. Title Character MegaMan uses an Arm Cannon as his signature weapon, while The Rival ProtoMan makes use of a Blade Below the Shoulder.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_f00d733b	comment	In the New World of Darkness, the advantages of each are highly situational, depending on the material of the weapon and the specific opponent out of the setting's Fantasy Kitchen Sink. A shotgun loaded with silver or Cold Iron can be devastating against a Werewolf or True Fae, but would only annoy a Vampire; on the other hand, a trained spear fighter can tear a vampire a new one. Also, as an Urban Fantasy setting, there's the matter of acquiring, licensing, and transporting your weapons, since Surprisingly Realistic Outcome occurs if you carry a zweihander or uzi down a busy street...
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Guns vs. Swords / int_f4a728d6	comment	The ultimate confrontation of Afro Samurai involves this. Afro, as per the title, uses a sword, while his nemesis, Justice, uses guns.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_faf84cd	comment	Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines: The Ax-Crazy orderly Cleaver holds the opinion that guns tend to make people sloppy and careless, making it that much easier for him to get up close and personal with his knives.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_fc030253	comment	Project Tatterdemalion comes down on the Swords side. The monstrous Hollows possess an extremely formidable Healing Factor and decentralized anatomy, meaning that bullets have essentially no chance against them. However, because Psychic Powers in this setting are conducted along metal, the shinigami can charge swords with energies that disrupt Hollow regeneration, allowing them to inflict lethal wounds.
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Guns vs. Swords / int_fcfec4b6	comment	The climax of the fight between Mireille and a brainwashed Kirika in Noir has them having a stand off; Mireille with her gun and Kirika one of Chloe's knives. And then the watch Mireille threw into the air hits and the ground and it's music starts playing.
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