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Many "hard" Science Fiction authors, trained as they are in the hard sciences, such as chemistry or physics, tend to take digs at the "softer" sciences (social sciences such as sociology and anthropology) in their works. The reasons for this vary, but the most common criticism is that it's much harder to perform repeatable experiments. Scientists strive towards empiricism and the "scientific method," many humanities or social sciences are trying to study things that cannot easily be studied strictly and subjected to experimentation, making hard science writers feel justified in considering them as "pseudoscience." This happens outside of science fiction as well. Often, scientist characters in non-sci-fi shows will insult the softer sciences when they have to deal with them. In real life, common targets are Psychology (see below), Psychiatry (often portrayed as the medical equivalent of the Church of Happyology, which is ironic considering the church's attitude towards it), Economics ("The Dismal Science"), Linguistics (except by some, c.f. Sheldon Cooper), &c. Some can have a grudging respect for economics and political science, which can tell if one will get more funding soon. Think of it as an interdisciplinary Take That!. How much the rivalry is Serious Business, and how much friendly banter, depends on the people involved. It's still an influential conflict that not only has spawned new theories and schools but became a full-blown "war" during the 90's. The standard comeback from soft scientists is that their subject is more "applicable" or more relevant to life and society at large (e.g.: as hit and miss as psychology can be, even biologists admit that neurological or even pharmacological solutions to mood disorders should only be a last resort). Social scientists can point out that that often their fields are not as far along simply because they're more difficult to research: "atoms don't think" and won't lie to you on surveys, make irrational decisions, or be influenced by thousands of seemingly unrelated variables, and there are fewer ethical concerns with experimenting on them. Sometimes, they even call physics a "solved" field whose only remaining mysteries are trivia without real-world impact. Another reaction is that these complaints come from those for whom science has been fetishized, usually by non-scientists, thus missing the point entirely and cheapening both. A related phenomenon is "hard science" and business students criticizing subjects like Literary Criticism and Philosophy for being more Wild Mass Guessing and having little utility in careers outside the academic world. This overlooks actual, legitimate philosophies that adults can also use (like, for example, studying logic and reasoning), and of course, how in Real Life, some businesses prefer candidates who bring different ways of thinking to their jobs. Similarly, several quantitative-minded sociologists use complex statistical methods that rival those of the hard sciences in their research. Compare and contrast Science Is Bad and Science Is Wrong. See M.D. Envy and Not That Kind of Doctor, which can be related. There may also be a bit of overlap with A Degree in Useless, as students of the hard sciences may consider degrees in soft sciences to count as one. Not related to erections in any way and, more specifically, not related to the Sci Fi Ghetto. |
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Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs 2: Played for Laughs. The orangutan Barb works for Live Corp, specializing in futuristic inventions and Food Bars. She and her boss, Chester V, refuse to believe that meteorologist Sam Sparks is truly even a scientist. | |
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In Bones, Temperance Brennan takes constant digs at psychology, saying it's unscientific...this despite constantly being proven wrong, or using principles from it herself (with bizarre justifications about how it's not psychology), or even the obvious effectiveness of psychological profiler Dr. Sweets. This is frequently lampshaded by other characters. This behavior was actually the subject of a Take That! in an episode where Booth and Bones head to a mental hospital where Bones makes pointed remarks to the head psychologist there. Eventually after a while of this the psychologist finally gets sick of this and points out that while her expertise in the dead is all fine and dandy, he's using his training to help 'living people' who desperately need it, soft science or not. She offers a rather Backhanded Apology which he notes is perhaps he best she can do. Shortly thereafter upon seeing him adroitly dealing with a patient having a panic attack she gives a much more heartfelt apology. In the same episode, Bones mistakes a delusional patient for an actual doctor. It's unclear as to whether this supports her view (psychiatry minus the pharmacology degree can be perfectly emulated by any reasonably bright basket case) or not. It also got thrown in her face in "The Beaver in the Otter". Having run out of physical evidence to identify the killer, Booth uses a nail gun (the murder weapon) in front of several suspects. Sweets observed the crowd and indicated the most likely suspect (correctly) based off of her reaction. Brennan sincerely asks him what he saw...and he blows her off pointing out she's just going to dismiss it. She's left genuinely at a loss over in her inability to figure it out. She's since changed her mind during a period where Sweets was staying with her. Apparently he leaves his psychology books and journals by the toilet and she started reading them. Much to her surprise she found them scientific, eye-opening, and useful for understanding the thought processes and emotions of both herself and others. Given her lack of social skills in youth, emotional detachment/repression, sensitivity to criticism, and arrogance in regards to her own intelligence, insight, and objectivity, it's not hard to believe that she had a few negative experiences with a psychologist or two when she was younger and wrote off the whole field as quackery for years as a result. Bones and Sweets are interrogating a super genius because he menaced a scientist who was building a device that theoretically could destroy the universe. The man works as a welder. When Sweets tells him that for being a genius his profession is very humble, the man retorts that at least his work is real- psychologists cannot say that of themselves. On one occasion, Brennan voices her distaste for psychology to a psychologist played by Stephen Fry, and he promptly agrees. He seems to regard himself primarily as a therapist, though of course he is trained in psychology. |
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House makes plenty of jokes at the expensive of psychologists and psychiatrists, regarding them as studying a shoddy science and uninteresting branch of medicine respectively. Then again, there's barely anyone or any profession House doesn't hold in disdain, so it's not that new for him. | |
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Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, otherwise noted for indulging heavily in this trope, has taken a crack at it a couple of times: First it lampooned Rutherford's statement by claiming that every physicist has a couple of years in grad school when they don't even know what questions they should be asking, followed by a decade, maybe a decade and a half of productive work, followed by spending the rest of their lives telling other scientists how deluded they are. Later, it let the Biologists stand up for themselves once more, though with a much different argument: Trying to study something like biology with pure, fundamental mathematics would take more computing power than you could fit in a universe, and thus the things a biologist studies simply don't exist at such levels. She's more than happy to team up and hate Chemists though. |
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Once again, discussed in a Crichton novel, Airframe, where the narration (partially from the point of view of the non-scientist main character) talks about engineers in the employ of the protagonists's airline manufacturer - one is a elitist, temperamental Manchild with horrible people skills, which, according to the narration, is typical of a lot of engineers... | |
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In the Discworld and The Big Bang Theory crossover The Many Worlds Interpretation, by A.A. Pessimal, two academics from the Discworld cross to Earth and encounter their peers from Caltech. Sheldon Cooper instantly accepts Professor Ponder Stibbons when Ponder reveals more than a surface knowledge of quantum physics. note Except to Ponder it is quantum magic. however, Ponder's co-researcher, when she explains her doctorate is in zoology and animal psychology, gets the flat and disinterested response, "Oh. Interesting.", spoken in a way that reveals Sheldon considers this beneath his dignity. As she is also an Assassin, she finds her fists beginning to itch. Penny remarks later on her self-control. | |
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In Skin Horse, Dr. Lee thinks very little of the "soft sciences", including psychology. Tip is forced to show her the error of her ways by using psychology to effortlessly seduce her. | |
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On The Big Bang Theory, Sheldon (a theoretical physicist) is often belittling engineers (like Howard) even calling them "the Oompa-Loompas of science" once. Of course, Sheldon tends to belittle anyone who doesn't live up to his lofty standards (i.e., everyone else), including his other friends Raj (an astrophysicist) and Leonard (an experimental physicist). Sheldon also fell victim to a more literal version of this trope when he briefly comments on the inaccuracy of the social sciences in the episode "The Friendship Algorithm", while he presents Penny with his "friendship questionnaire". He wasn't happy about doing one, as in his view the social sciences are 'largely hokum', but saw no alternative. Sheldon even botches the methodology: no social scientist in their right mind would expect a respondent to handle a 200-question exam. Not to mention that questionnaires or interviews are subject to people altering their answers to please the one asking the questions - hence why many social sciences try hard to make sure the subjects are comfortable and act as they would naturally. He was also horrified by the thought of funding going to the English Literature and Philosophy departments: "Oh, the Humanities!" Leonard's parents (a neurologist and an anthropologist) apparently only used sex in their relationship for reproduction, and both wrote papers on it. His mother visits and discusses this with Sheldon, pointing out because her paper was from a neurological standpoint that means it was the only one worth reading, to which Sheldon promptly agrees. In the episode where Sheldon has to give a speech, one of his opening jokes is at the expense of a geologist, which he (drunkenly) follows with 'I joke with the geologists, but it's only because I have no respect for their field.' This one is interesting because of the fact that geology is a hard science. As is neurobiology, Amy Farrah Fowler's field which Sheldon is condescending toward, leading to their 'breakup' and Sheldon's acquiring 25 cats. Most of the evidence suggests that Sheldon just thinks all other scientists (or for that matter, all other humans) and their work are innately inferior to him and his work. Sheldon's hatred of geology ("the dirt people!") has become a running gag. An episode of the prequel spinoff series, Young Sheldon, explains it: He had a crush/friendship with a girl who introduced him to geology during his childhood, but her relationship with a friend of his lead him to decry the field as "meaningless", even though he was fascinated by it. Physicists and geologists historically were rivals (covered in the book A Short History of Nearly Everything) as in the past they were the two major branches of science solving many of the same problems and competing for the same talent and benefactors. Given that it's Sheldon, it's not that surprising he hasn't yet gotten over that grudge from centuries ago. Amy Farrah Fowler has also belittled Bernadette's field of microbiology, saying that while she studies the brain ("the organism responsible for Beethoven's Fifth Symphony"), Bernadette studies yeast ("the organism responsible for 'Miller light'."). Interestingly, Sheldon usually takes linguistics very seriously even though it is considered one of the "soft" sciences, often pointing out phonetically correct ways to say the words he's written (and pointing to the word written in the international phonetic alphabet). Which makes his horrible handle on Klingon phonetics and pronunciation even funnier. And Chinese. Although in one episode he is seen learning Finnish - for recreation. He took it pretty badly when another physicist made fun of his own specialty this way, though. Interestingly, however, when Raj's sister Priya was going out with Leonard, Sheldon uncharacteristically never mocked her academic discipline (the law), despite disliking her. Fridge Brilliance kicks in when you realize that a discipline comprised largely of making and/or interpreting strict rules and regulations which maintain or promote social order is right up Sheldon's alley. Sheldon's arrogance towards other disciplines and walks of life can also frequently be his undoing. In one example, he pompously informed Penny that, as a theoretical physicist, he had a flawless knowledge of everything in the universe. Penny promptly asked him to describe who Radiohead were. Several seconds of desperate twitching later, this was snottily amended to everything important in the universe. |
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This trope shows up again in a Crichton novel, Micro, which was finished by Richard Preston after Crichton's passing. Danny Minot is a sniveling, pretentious "science studies" major who works in studying "paradigms" and scientific terminology, which, in practice, amounts to bothering the students with meaningless questions as they do real work, and is only in the lab because the head professor's wife is his cousin.. He is trying to suck up to Vincent Drake on the entire trip to Hawaii, uselessly quotes philosophers, is responsible for Jenny's death by letting her drown after being too afraid he'll be pulled into a flash-flood of raindrops, refuses to help with the group fashioning weapons and poison as defense (and would have stayed in the bunker if it hadn't been destroyed by the Chief of Security chopping it in half), mocks Erica's faith and prayer when she's severely traumatized by several deaths and the whole gravity of the situation, and worst of all, tries to sell out the survivors to Nanigen. It's not known if this was Crichton's intention (as Crichton has had psychology portrayed positively before), or Preston's. | |
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My Little Pony: A New Generation: Phyllis seems to be rather anti-historian, viewing Argyle’s research on ponies being friends as a means of poisoning children's minds. | |
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Schlock Mercenary: Heartily mocked in The Rant for this strip, which mentions that while scientific researchers mock inertiics by claiming that it's more of an art than a real applied science, a good spaceship technician will save thousands of lives because of their knowledge in this fieldnote a DCI (drivetide compensation inertiics) is necessary to allow ships to travel quickly as rapid acceleration would otherwise tear its crew apart, plus the pay and benefits are great. A researcher, on the other hand, only publishes a few papers over their entire career and is left with nothing but bitterness as they watch their work get shamelessly stolen by the commercial sector. In this strip Liz comments on how the trope attitude has resulted in her studies in memetics, linguistics, and sociology landing her a fast food job. In fact, she studied this very meme in school. And later, she ends up a Lieutenant, and in direct charge of a scientific conference tasked with spit-balling ideas on how to contact exo-galactic world ships, and indirectly save the galaxy... because her education would allow her to guess how other people and races would think. |
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xkcd: The Content Warning formerly at the bottom of every page read, "Warning: this comic occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)." Munroe has a strong disdain for computational linguistics, starting in strip 114. And he sticks to it in public, too. Interestingly, despite his well-established opinions on computational linguistics (which is more computer science than linguistics anyway) he seems to have a positive opinion of linguistics as a whole. In "Imposter", as shown below, he ranked linguistics as being a much harder science than sociology and closer to engineering in rigor. "Purity" arranges fields of study based on which ones can be considered applied versions of other, "purer" fields. Being the most theoretical, mathematics sits on top, to the chagrin of physicists. "Imposter" has Cueball sit down with grad students to see how long he can pass as an expert in their field despite not knowing anything about the subject at hand, the punchline being that literary criticism was so easy for him to BS that he wrote eight papers and published two books on the topic and still got away with it. (Social scientists tend to share Munroe's view of this field.) The Alt Text of "One Two" posits that the comic will likely draw the ire of anthropology majors, and they'll have enough free time to write and send Munroe letters about it because they don't have a "real" science degree. This one came across harsher than Munroe intended, so the following day, he anthropologized. Discussed and Inverted in "Physicists", which admits that liberal-arts majors are nowhere near as annoying as a physicist encountering a new subject, at which point they become an Insufferable Genius as they immediately assume an entire complicated field of study can be trivially reduced to a drastically simplified model. Munroe takes another swipe at Economics in his famous spoof of the Major General Song, "Every Major's Terrible": By dubbing Econ "Dismal Science", adherents exaggerate/the "dismal"'s fine, it's "science" where they patently prevaricate. Mind you, the hard sciences don't come out looking much better. Inverted again in "Degree-Off": a physicist is taken aback by a harsh remark made by a biologist ("The heroes of my field have slain one of the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, while the heroes of your field gathered in the desert to create a new one"). The alt text reads "I'M SORRY, FROM YOUR YEARS OF CONDESCENDING TOWARD THE 'SQUISHY' SCIENCES, I ASSUMED YOU'D BE A LITTLE HARDER". |
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American Dad!: In one episode, where Francine and Roger pose as a wealthy couple, Roger wants to establish himself as a political science professor. When Francine suggests economics in lieu of that, Roger explains that he hates economics. Eventually, tensions rise between the two and Francine spites him by establishing that Roger is an economics professor. | |
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Another Robert Heinlein example, from the "Notebooks of Lazarus Long" in Time Enough for Love. | |
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The statistician narrator in Stanisław Lem's His Master's Voice pejoratively calls the group of linguists, psychologists, "pleiographers" etc. "elves". | |
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The Institute of Fallout 4 practically has this as their M.O., and serves as a Deconstruction of the notion: they come off as a massive advertisement as to why the social sciences should exist. Everything they do is the result of asking themselves the question "Can we do X?", but never "SHOULD we do X?". As a result, practically everything they do is either a waste of time for them (making synthetic gorillas for some inane reason and mass-producible laser weapons that are weaker than your average pipe pistol) or a never-ending nightmare of paranoia for the surface. It's quite telling that despite being one of the only organizations that was protected from the effects of the War and, therefore, never lost any scientific knowledge, they're still the technological inferiors of several other factions. The only true breakthrough they've made has been the creation of third-generation Synths—which they wouldn't have been able to do without DNA from Shaun—and even then, the only use they could think of for a truly sentient Artificial Human that was physically indistinguishable from a normal person was for menial labor. Whenever evidence is screaming at them that they should change their policies, they perform mind-boggling mental gymnastics to avoid taking any responsibility for their actions. | |
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The page picture is the first image of the What If? entry "All the Money", in which author Randall Munroe handwaves away how you managed to acquire all the money that exists by invoking A Wizard Did It. The image is of Rob and Megan from xkcd, and Rob has drawn a pentacle on the floor. | |
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BOFH and his assistant got some analyst estimating them for security purposes. Using Inkblot Test and Word Association Test. Guess who was a butt of the joke? | |
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One Girl Genius strip involves a mad social scientist griping about the fact that the Sparks who go into the hard sciences get all the funding. | |
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In Girl Genius story Raised by Jägers a riddling sphinx preys on the Philosophy Department with great success. | |
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Gordon Freeman of Freeman's Mind feels indignant toward psychology. Although, this may have less to do with scientific elitism than the fact that Gordon is a friggin' loon, and as such not enamored of what they probably have to say about him. He's even more dismissive of string theorists, who are toward the soft end of physics research, essentially regarding them as goat-sacrificing cultists. | |
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The Relic: Evolutionary biologist Dr. Margo Green isn't a fan of anthropologist Dr. John Whitney or his work. She's also frustrated by how he and the museum they work for act like superstition is something to take seriously; the museum financing John's work more than hers only adds to Margo's frustrations. | |
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On the other hand, the de facto main character of the trilogy is a philologist (one who studies language), and his ability to communicate complex ideas ends up being extremely important, and the main villain of the first two books is a physicist. Said physicist expresses much derision for any discipline that isn't a physical science. | |
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An episode of the prequel spinoff series, Young Sheldon, explains it: He had a crush/friendship with a girl who introduced him to geology during his childhood, but her relationship with a friend of his lead him to decry the field as "meaningless", even though he was fascinated by it. | |
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Computer scientists and I.T. disciplines are generally benign for the most part in non-tech matters, but are notorious for thinking everyone but them (excepting a select few) is completely hopeless when it comes to operating a computer, with extra treatment given to non-STEM degrees. Shows like The IT Crowd reinforce this stereotype, and they tend to be remarkably self-aware of it. Amusingly enough, a computer science journal was also the subject of a Sokal hoax when someone managed to get the paper Get Me Off Your Fucking Mailing List published, which is nothing but the title over and over again, even on charts and graphs. It was considered a failing of the pay-to-play publisher, similar to some of the other hoaxes, than the field as a whole. Within the field there's also a division between computer science (which deals with the mathematical aspects of computation, algorithm design, and programming methodology) and computer engineering (the actual practice of getting the computer to do what you want, which includes programming, hardware, and networking). Computer engineers have been known to take potshots at scientists, like claiming you can get a Computer Science degree without ever actually writing code (not true, though upper-level CS courses do tend to be more language-agnostic, assuming that you learned your chosen languages' idiosyncrasies at the intro level). |
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In Professor Layton and the Unwound Future, the Prime Minister (a former scientist) is talked into taking part in a scientific demonstration after the demonstrator brings up how he abandoned the hard sciences for politics. | |
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Invoked in Arrival, when Ian, a theoretical physicist, meets Louise. He's reading her book on linguistics and the development of human languages and argues his belief that science is the foundation of civilization rather than language. Louise argues that communication allows those scientific discoveries to be shared and described, firmly shutting him up. Moreover, given that they're dealing with a race of Starfish Aliens with a Starfish Language who don't think linearly, Louise's expertise is far more useful than Ian's, and his idea of using simple linear equations fails. Strangely, the aliens can recognize more complex three-dimensional equations (because they are non-linear). | |
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In Stargate Atlantis, an early episode has McKay claim that medicine is more akin to voodoo than real science. This while said "voodoo" is being used to administer a gene therapy which will allow him to use Ancient technology. Medicine is voodoo to HIM, because he can't understand it. It just feels like he is belittling the entire profession because... well... he's McKay. | |
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Also discussed in another Crichton novel, Timeline, where there is an even starker contrast as it's between a physicist and a historian. Perhaps deconstructed, since the physicist protagonist solves problems in the present, while the historians solve problems in the past. | |
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Frasier: Both the title character and his brother Niles often try to undermine each others respective therapy field (for Frasier, radio psychology and for Niles, private practice). They’re both more than willing however to belittle another field of psychology that they find below them. | |
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Sunshine: Both Played With and Downplayed. The eight protagonists are six engineers of various kinds: a theoretical/particle physicist and a psychiatrist. You'd think the psychiatrist would be the odd one out, particularly since a point is made that he is on their mission because a previous mission which only had hard scientists & engineers failed, and it's thought that was due to human (interaction) failure (so this mission is the first to include a non-engineer/non-hard-scientist). But the physicist is the one who stands apart from the rest and has tension with the others. It escalated pretty soon in the movie when a crucial decision has to be made regarding the mission, and the Captain declares the decision won't be made democratically but will be solely up to the physicist because he is the only one who can interpret, or even grasp, the complex parameters involved. So, in the end, it's more "theoretical vs. applied sciences". | |
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In Starship Troopers, Heinlein goes on at length about how flawed 20th century psychology was/is. However Future!Psychology teaches nothing but "hard truths"... by the math department. Prior to the events of Starship Troopers there was an event known as the "Revolt of the Scientists" in which social scientists attempted to overthrow the government and establish a utopia. It failed miserably. Another Robert Heinlein example, from the "Notebooks of Lazarus Long" in Time Enough for Love. |
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