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Improbable Power Discrepancy

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Improbable Power Discrepancy	comment	In games lacking Dynamic Difficulty, particularly RPGs without Level Scaling, the designers will usually design encounters with enemies to balance them against the power level the player is expected to have when first encountered. This can lead to odd discrepancies where enemies are much weaker or more powerful than circumstances or common sense would suggest. Less intentional examples can also happen in games with Level Scaling, especially if scaling is only done when a player first enters an area. This also often applies to items; the player ransacks a royal guardpost and finds nothing but a Rusty Bronze Dagger, then loots a random cave later on and picks up an Infinity -1 Sword. The archetypal example would be facing elite troops or giant monsters right at the beginning of the game, yet slaughtering them with ease while the player is still at level one. Conversely, at higher levels one might encounter rabbits or palette-swapped imps, with grossly inflated abilities that have been placed there simply to provide a challenge, regardless of how unlikely it is that such an enemy would be that powerful. Related to Sorting Algorithm of Evil, Fake Ultimate Mook and Beef Gate. It is usually an example of Gameplay and Story Segregation.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_12381dc	comment	Divinity: Original Sin II has a one-way progression through four game regions, with almost all NPCs in each region matching the expected range of PC levels. This means that even random street vendors in the city of Arx average Level 18, only a bit shy of the Big Bad and more than enough to deal a Curb-Stomp Battle to most of the "Source Masters" from the second region.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_168c4727	comment	Guild Wars 2 has a weird versions of this: Due to heavy use of "dynamic level adjustment" scaling higher-level characters down to a power level appropriate to the zone, pretty much no enemy is ever entirely trivial, no matter how much you should outclass them. Another example stems from the inconsistent manner in which animals are designated as normal enemies or non-combat critters; one deer might be a reasonable fight with a knockdown ability while another standing mere feet from it might be a one-shot kill.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_196b618d	comment	The post-game of PokÃ©mon Black 2 and White 2 pulls this off to absurd levels: after defeating the Elite Four and foiling Ghetsis, you can explore areas that were early-game areas in the original Black and White which were made into postgame areas in the sequels. Cue the ridiculous PokÃ©mon levels. (There's a preschooler with a level 60 Wooper! This is especially bizarre because Wooper evolves at level 20.) For extra hilarity, the girl standing in a patch of grass will also give you a standard Potion in the midst of trainers with PokÃ©mon that can deal a lot more than 20 HP's worth of damage.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_1af341a1	comment	Happens a lot in Disgaea, due to the series' Absurdly High Level Cap of 9999. At the end of the story campaign, the final boss will usually be about level 100, and considered capable of ruling or destroying the world if the protagonists don't stop him. As soon as you enter the post game, however, you'll swiftly be facing regular mooks who are ten times as powerful. You can also intentionally cause this trope by passing Stronger Enemy bills, increasing the strength of every foe in the game for better Level Grinding opportunities. Disgaea 5 makes this interesting by taking a post-game bonus area, The Land of Carnage, and expanding it to have its own story. The final boss of the main story is Level 120, and their unique skill shows the galaxy suffering a Big Crunch and detonating. The first few foes you fight in the Carnage Dimension story line are level 1000, have stats a fair deal above regular level 1000 foes due to certain modifiers, and are stated to erase any universe that doesn't match up to their standards. The final boss of this story line chapter is a Level 2000 Carnage Overlord Prinny ...and according to a party member Bloodis, aka Goldion whom joins with you once you defeat that boss, said Overlord was actually a grunt. To expand on this further, in previous games the Land of Carnage was where you could obtain the game's highest ranking equipment. In Disgaea 5? There is now Carnage Equipment which not only blow the regular world's Infinity +1 Sword out of the water, but also has its own Infinity +1 Sword to obtain.Example The regular rank 39 Sword, Yoshitsuna, has 1724 ATK. The Carnage version of the Rank 1 Sword, the Replica Sword, has 4900 ATK. The Carnage Yoshitsuna? 40503 ATK at base.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_218f56d7	comment	Evil Islands: Mostly played straight, with a few aversions. The different types of Underground Monkey have completely different health depending of the island you are, and the giant spiders you fight in the Death Canyon (that you're forced to complete while alone and with obsolete equipment) are strangely weak compared to the ones you fight elsewhere in Suslanger. However, in Suslanger you encounter hyenas which have about the same power as the dogs you encountered in Ingos. This actually has some logic, but makes hyenas look pathetic when compared to the rest of enemies in Suslanger.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_291e9857	comment	This is consistently done in Dark Souls, where it is not uncommon to find the royal guards and elite knights found in the first few areas of the game being eventually overshadowed by the likes of rats, hollow bandits, and various diminutive and (relatively) unthreatening creatures in later levels. A particular example is in Dark Souls 2, where the hollow peasants you find in Brightstone Cove Tseldora later in the game have more health and do far more damage than the royal swordsmen you find much earlier in the game, despite the former wielding simple (albeit enchanted) farming tools and worker's clothes, while the latter are equipped in partial plate and wield zweihanders. Even bosses are not immune, with some early game bosses portrayed both in-story and in-gameplay to be major threats that have killed no less than hundreds of people during their exploits, eventually being overtaken in both health and damage by elite mooks found in mid-game areas.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_2a826df6	comment	In the Cardfight!! Vanguard TCG, any relationship between a card's flavor and stats is completely coincidental; it's the grade that determines the power band a card generally exists in, not what makes sense from, say, Magic: The Gathering logic. For example: the Nova Grapplers' Battleraizer is a mecha large enough to have a human pilot, but has an attack power of only 3000. The same clan's Three Minutes is a professional wrestler with high-tech gloves and boots, with an attack power of 5000; in other words, the guy on foot with the fancy gloves can attack the building-sized combat robot and be guaranteed a win unless a trigger has given the robot a stat boost.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_2d9d17d6	comment	The strongest PokÃ©mon in existence in terms of base stats used to be Arceus, which isn't surprising due to it being the in-universe equivalent of God. That is, until Generation VI came along, in which case, both of Mewtwo's Mega Evolutions surpass it in terms of strength, as well as Rayquaza's Mega Evolution, which can potentially be even stronger due to it being the only PokÃ©mon that can Mega Evolve without an item.note Mega Rayquaza broke the Ubers tier on Smogon so thoroughly, a new tier removing all restrictions was created simply to counter its might. Downplayed in that it's only possible for PokÃ©mon to be within their Mega Evolved forms under certain circumstances, and even then, the alternate form is only temporary.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_2f203125	comment	The Shin Megami Tensei series sometimes has this on a mythological level. Some games have the Pale Rider, usually considered the strongest of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse as being weaker than the White Rider. Titania is almost always stronger than her husband Oberon. Ares is usually one of the weaker members of the Greek Pantheon, etc.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_3038d75c	comment	In Diablo II, Rakanishu is supposed to be the unique version of the Fallen. Meanwhile, later, Warped Ones who are a stronger variant of the Fallen but a common enemy in act V, are also much stronger than him.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_36d154a	comment	DC Universe Online follows this to a fault. Enemy difficulty in episodes is strictly scaled to the episode itself. With each new episode released, the Combat Rating cap increases to match the now highest-level mobs fought in the episode. This means in the April 2020 Birds of Prey episode, even the completely normal and unequipped human rioters are CR 304, exponentially more powerful than whatever Physical God or Eldritch Abomination you bested in early episodes.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_3f527396	comment	There are fleas in Anarchy Online which could curbstomp many of the dungeon bosses.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_43f52aa9	comment	Oblivion is a rare example that has this happen despite level scaling. Almost every generic enemy in the game scales with your player's level as you get stronger, which can lead to some strange circumstances. Probably the best example is bandits and the city watch/Imperial Legion soldiers; at the beginning of the game, Imperial Legionaries and city guards are some of the most dangerous non-player characters you can pick a fight with, as they have reasonably good equipment even at the start of the game, and they are always 10 levels above your player, no matter what, which is some of the highest disparities you will see level-wise. However, while their stats are always good, their gear does not improve in the slightest... Which is why lowly bandits can eventually overcome professional soldiers of the strongest army in Tamriel, as they get higher levels and better gear as time goes on. At some point in the game, it will not be uncommon to see the Imperial City itself surrounded by forts filled to the brim with bandits equipped with daedric (or glass) arms and armor that could slaughter the entire garrison without breaking a sweat, while the guards, even the elite palace guard, are still working with steel-quality armor and silver-quality swords. Creatures are affected in a somewhat similar manner.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_49ad83ee	comment	World of Warcraft is all over this: Many of the starting zones feature creatures that you won't encounter again for about 50 levels. Furthermore, most starting zones are literally right next to a 40+ zone (although some of these zones are pretty isolated by mountains). Even more disturbing is the fact that incredibly powerful people, such as kings or generals (who are max-level elite bosses) send you and your friends out to kill so-called dreaded enemies, even though they are surrounded by guards and soldiers who could one-shot them in their sleep. Presumably, they'd simply prefer to use disposable adventurers rather than their valuable men. However, this is very much a case of Gameplay and Story Segregation. The above effect is somewhat mitigated with the advent of level scaling, which means that enemies in the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor (apart from zones added in subsequent expansions) match the character's level up to Level 60. While a max-level character will still kill anything in one hit, said enemies will generally present a challenge to characters who are leveling up, thereby coming off as dangerous as they're supposed to be. A funnier example consists of 'important' Non Player Characters (town guard captains, generals and the like) being an appropriate level for the zone they're in, while regular town guards and merchants can be whatever the max level of the current expansion is. This can result, for example, in a level 15 mayor or guard captain in a town with level 80 guards. A rather interesting example is found in Heroic versions of low-level dungeons such as the Deadmines. While Heroic dungeons are always more difficult than their regular counterparts, these ones take a huge leap of something like 60 levels in addition to that. Yet, story- and quest-wise they're the same thing. This goes for race leaders in general, they are meant to only be defeated by an army of max level players, which makes even the weakest race leader much more powerful than guys like Illidan, Arthas, Deathwing, Archimonde, and Kil'jaeden.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_4b434423	comment	PokÃ©mon Sword and Shield mix things up. Many wild area PokÃ©mon do get stronger as the character gets more badges but there are also many that are too strong to be caught until enough badges are obtained.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_4c363bcc	comment	Justified in Sentinels of the Multiverse with various villains. The HP of a villain is a representation of how hard it is to thwart their Evil Plan, not how durable they are physically. So, while Wager Master (51 HP) and OblivAeon (calculating his HP total is a bit weird due to how his game mode works, but it's north of 310) are both singular entities, even overlooking that the Big O has been rounding up minions and power sources as part of his plan to destroy all reality, he's also committed to a win here in the way that a jackass dilettante like WM isn't, and so he won't get bored and wander off if the heroes kick him around for a bit. This also explains why Blood Countess Bathory, an absurdly hax vampire in the lore, only has 13 health as an environment card while most villains start at 40 and only go upwards; Bathory isn't pursuing an evil scheme in that deck, she's only there because the fight is taking place in her rec room, and a few good hits will at the very least knock her into another room so the main fight can continue.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_4e9f355	comment	A prominent offender is Crisis Core, where the SOLDIER missions feature a fairly limited palette of generic monsters who sometimes appear with boss-level stats as the missions get harder. Most egregious was a Mission tier in which a hard battle with a hologram of Sephiroth was followed by a much, much, much harder battle with... a chicken.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_4f316544	comment	Disgaea 5 makes this interesting by taking a post-game bonus area, The Land of Carnage, and expanding it to have its own story. The final boss of the main story is Level 120, and their unique skill shows the galaxy suffering a Big Crunch and detonating. The first few foes you fight in the Carnage Dimension story line are level 1000, have stats a fair deal above regular level 1000 foes due to certain modifiers, and are stated to erase any universe that doesn't match up to their standards. The final boss of this story line chapter is a Level 2000 Carnage Overlord Prinny ...and according to a party member Bloodis, aka Goldion whom joins with you once you defeat that boss, said Overlord was actually a grunt. To expand on this further, in previous games the Land of Carnage was where you could obtain the game's highest ranking equipment. In Disgaea 5? There is now Carnage Equipment which not only blow the regular world's Infinity +1 Sword out of the water, but also has its own Infinity +1 Sword to obtain.Example The regular rank 39 Sword, Yoshitsuna, has 1724 ATK. The Carnage version of the Rank 1 Sword, the Replica Sword, has 4900 ATK. The Carnage Yoshitsuna? 40503 ATK at base.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_5209cf3c	comment	Happens in every Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario game, where you encounter traditional Mario enemies really late in the game that just happen to be about a hundred times more powerful than they have any right to be. Good examples include Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door (which has normal Piranha Plants found in floors 70+ of the Pit of 100 Trials, that happen to have endgame stats), Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (which has more ridiculously overpowered Piranha Plants and Boos with sky high defences, despite both being usually common Mario mooks) and Mario & Luigi: Dream Team, where Piranha Plants, Goombas and Shy Guys have ridiculously high stats and complex attacks for their species, Antasma starts as a warm-up boss, and Bowser Jr is somehow a Superboss with more power than the final one! Who happens to be his dad with reality warper powers...
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_526d4c5c	comment	Knights of the Old Republic has a few examples: The player faces elite Sith troopers that have boarded the ship the player character is travelling on. These are considerably weaker than general Sith troops faced later in the game, and were made so solely in order for the then-weak player character to overcome them without difficulty. This is explained later when Bastila tells you that she used her Battle Meditation to help your escape. KotOR's story almost entirely ignores your characters' levels as well as those of your enemies. It actually uses Level Scaling to do this, too. The experienced war hero Carth starts with only a few levels, and after a while when neither of you are likely to have many more than that, he's willing to say you have "the skills of an elite commando". The story seems to constantly assume that all the player characters are very tough already, while enemies are always about the right level for you. Towards the end, the game will start to highlight this even more with the player character, who supposedly becomes more powerful than anyone else (like, ever, practically), while only gaining levels just like the rest of them. Of course, the Player Character is always remarkably powerful... It all actually makes sense if you ignore the numbers. Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords lampshades the point. The main character can note this fact to the mentor. The subsequent explanation is that the Sith are drawing power off of you, so as you increase in power, they do as well. It doesn't explain every other enemy in the game, but hey, the Sith are covered. The most frustrating example in the first game is the Final Boss Preview around two-thirds of the way through the game. With the sort of stats you'll have at this point in the game, you flatten him, and if you don't, it's Game Over. Then Cutscene Power to the Max kicks in and he irresistibly stuns you, forcing a party member to perform a Heroic Sacrifice to save you. When you meet him for the final battle, his power is magnified by the Star Forge, a Force-imbued, star-powered factory.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_5562f0b9	comment	Inazuma Eleven zigzags this frequently: on the one hand, random encounters tend to remain pretty much wimpier than you throughout the game, regardless if they are your school bullies or elite body guards (justified in some of the releases, since you're either playing a national team against amateurs or your team is training to be strong enough to defend the world/the sport/the timelines); on the other, depending on when you battle a team throughout your playthroughs it might have significantly worse stats than what the story might imply. One egregious example comes from Teikoku Academy, awarded the national title 40 years in a row but whose stats are inferior to a team of countrymen farmers.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_5908ee91	comment	Skyrim: Similar to Morrowind, Skyrim features a number of enemies stronger than the final boss of the base game. To recap, the base game final boss is a dragon called Alduin, a Physical God demonic dragon who's a force of nature, existing to end the world when it's time. Due to the way his Level Scaling works, this means fighting him ranges from quite challenging if you've blazed through the main quest only to quite trivial at higher levels (Bethesda, who made the game, actually suggested to fight him before you reach level 24 to keep the fight challenging; you'll likely hit level 24 after playing roughly 15 hours in a game with 100+ hours of content). However, another enemy known as a magical anomaly level scales exponentially, meaning that as you level up they gain health faster than you do. Plus, unlike most other enemies there's no cap to how strong they can get, resulting in very long, drawn-out battles with them at high levels. The two Expansion Packs - Dawnguard and Dragonborn - also add a variety of enemies stronger than Alduin. The final bosses of those two expansion packs are an ancient vampire lord named Harkon and a 4000+ year-old Evil Counterpart of you named Miraak. While the latter does at least have a deity backing him up to justify his strength, the former is supposedly just a typical (albeit experienced) vampire, but the fight is quite harder than Alduin: he can turn intangible, for one, and turn invulnerable while regenerating his health. If that's not enough, Harkon and Miraak aren't even the strongest enemies - remember how Alduin is a deity and leader of all dragons who you're recommended to fight at level 24? The expansions added revered dragons and legendary dragons with more health which deal more damage than Alduin. There's also a frost giant named Karstaag. What makes him unique is that when you encounter him he'll always be at level 90, meaning unless you've put an absurd amount of time into the game, he'll have much more HP than you, at 4000. Alduin, comparatively, will only have 3370HP at most due to the level scaling cap. But to really take the cake, fans agree probably the most challenging enemy in the game is the Ebony Warrior, encountered at level 80. Who is he? Just a Badass Normal warrior outfitted in powerfully enchanted gear. Yup, a guy in armor is stronger than a force of nature.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_59da62aa	comment	Similar to the aforementioned Point Lookout enemies, the Fallout: New Vegas DLC enemies can become disproportionately overpowered at high levels, for example at Level 40+ on Very Hard, Lonesome Road's Tunnelers will two-shot you and its upgraded Deathclaws will one-shot you, regardless of armor, and even Lobotomites in Old World Blues deal bonus damage that can chop off up to half your HP, more than you can deal with the same weapons. The Lonesome Road example is somewhat justified by The Divide being a hellish Death World even by Wasteland standards, Deathclaws already being The Dreaded of the series and Tunnelers being shown to be able to go toe-to-toe with a Deathclaw when hunting in packs. This is because the DLC packs use Level Scaling, to avoid the issue of either a starting player getting creamed or a max-level player stomping them into dirt.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_5c66fff9	comment	Neverwinter Nights 2 and its expansion feature both extremes. The Duergar and Bladelings that attack the Doomed Hometown at the beginning of the game are exceedingly weak for an assault force attempting to retrieve something very dear to the Githyanki. In the expansion, the player reaches Epic levels up to 30, and most of the enemies tailored to that power level are ones that you would expect to be very powerful, like fiends. At the same time, however, enemies that should be mundane and much lower in power than the player have inflated strength to present a challenge to the player. For example, there is a "berserker lodge" containing a small number of Rashemani warriors that you can spar with to earn bonuses. If they really were so powerful as they are depicted to be, they could probably travel to the Sword Coast (where the original campaign took place), dispatch the much weaker armed forces of that region with ease and carve out their own kingdom. As one Let's Play put it:
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_5e150650	comment	Exalted came within a hair's breadth of publishing stats for a rat that could kill farmers singlehandedly in one hit. Not a giant rat. A regular rat.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_61de95d6	comment	In Freelancer: The spacecraft you encounter become progressively more powerful as you advance through the game and move from one House to another. This results in the observation that the pirates in Rhineland could easily move in to Liberty and take over. Lampshaded in a way if the player goes to planet Crete, where a quick glance at the news shows that the Corsairs actually are planning to invade Rhineland and take over, and they're more concerned about the intervention of other pirates than they are about the other three nations!
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_68c8e9ad	comment	Happens on Super Robot Wars occasionally. Who would've thought than the ZGMF-X13A Providence, a standard, if powerful Real Robot, would have the same HP as Z-Master.note For the unfamiliar, a Gundam (like the Providence) is usually about 20ish meters tall. The Z-Master is in the same size category as the planet Jupiter. The Providence is nuclear-powered; the Z-Master is essentially planet-powered, literally attached to Jupiter through its hair. The Providence is operated by a human-sized human; the Z-Master's core components briefly took over a couple dozen of Jupiter's moons, and so on.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_69e47d85	comment	In Awakening, the expansion to Dragon Age: Origins, the hero has already fulfilled his/her destiny and defeated a godlike being, so a bunch of highwaymen on the roads between smallish cities should be easy to dispatch, right? In fact, these bandits could have completed the original campaign for you, and subsequently taken over the capital city.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_6ac55ec7	comment	Even tabletop games are not immune to this. One of the most famous was a common house cat in 3E Dungeons & Dragons. Not a challenge to a PC, but one could easily maim a human peasant in the first round of combat. Or a level 1 wizard. Using the Class and Level System the Dungeon Master could also create some bizarre opponents for the players, like an epic-level commoner, but such challenges were not built into the system. D&D can also fall into this in a more conventional sense, as the game is designed for many different levels of power. For one example, the Big Bad of the mid-level adventure Red Hand of Doom adventure is an 11th-level half-dragon cleric, an individual who considers himself blessed by the goddess Tiamat and powerful enough to open a permanent door to Hell and hold sway over thousands of hobgoblins. Meanwhile, the random unnamed henchmen and wandering monsters in the high-level book Elder Evils hit 10th level at minimum. At the extreme high-end, the Epic Level Handbook features a random magical dinosaur with no particular history or origin, and a CR higher than the setting-destroying Eldritch Abominations in the above book.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_6c1234ed	comment	In Dwarf Fortress. Carp in previous versions. To quote the game's creator: "I think I made the fish too hardcore." This was due to swimming increasing all stats, and since fish do nothing but swim... Dwarf Fortress actually used to have a specific fandom term for these: "King Of Beasts". First it was elephants, then carp, then Giant Cave Spiders and Unicorns. They are usually nerfed in later versions. Currently, the crown is held by the mighty Badger. 34.01 handed it off temporarily to the dreaded giant mosquito... or rather, the swarms of ~200 giant mosquitos that show up when they spawn. Which in turn handed it off to the Giant Sponge. That's right, a sessile creature with no nervous system (yet somehow capable of becoming enraged and killing dwarves) has become a menace to Dwarven society on par with the dreaded carp. Only in Dwarf Fortress. Without a nervous system or any other major organs, only air-drowning and magma threaten giant sponges, and even though they're immobile they can still use the default "push" attack, which calculates damage based on size and weight. Dwarves aren't smart enough to avoid them without help, so the sponge has its choice of knocking them into the water or just crushing them. Armok help you if you ever see undead giant sponges; they can move, leave the water, and actively hunt your dwarves. However, as of 40.01, Giant Sponges have become far less hardcore, being able to be killed with a few blunt attacks, due to the new damage system. Dwarves are still likely to be killed by them, though.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_6c1d09b3	comment	Fallout 3 features a few examples: The Broken Steel expansion can use this when it comes to leveling you companions. By the time Dogmeat is at level 30, he'll be able to survive nukes detonating in his face. This means that the mutt can take down squads of power-armored Enclave soldiers and hulking Super Mutants all on his own. To counterbalance this, it also introduces a trifecta of disproportionately overpowered enemies that usually start appearing around Level 15 and increase in frequency onward: Super Mutant Overlords, Albino Radscorpions, and Feral Ghoul Reavers. Worse, they can randomly show up in some locations regardless of the player's level, for example, you can run into an Overlord at GNR Building Plaza during "Following in His Footsteps", the very first story quest after leaving the vault. If you're at a high enough level, you may encounter as many as five Overlords or Reavers at once. In the Point Lookout DLC, a level 30 player character capable of almost effortlessly slaughtering the Powered Armor wearing, plasma rifle-wielding Elite Mooks of the Enclave can get massacred by nearly naked Tribals and Swampfolk armed with 19th century repeating rifles and woodcutting axes who are capable of taking several shots in the face from a .44 Magnum before going down. This is because they have an unresistable 35 point damage bonus on top of all their attacks for no reason at all. The Point Lookout enemies deserve mention because most of them are simple humans mutated by radiation and inbreeding, using low quality weapons. But the game is coded to give them an unseen damage and resistance bonus based on the player's level, so at high level the mutated hicks somehow hit harder than Super Mutants or top of the line military equipment-wielding powered armor soldiers. As implied above, this applies a fair bit to the Enclave themselves, who are unusually weak compared to their showings in 2 and New Vegas. This is due to them being villains throughout the entire game (rather than the extreme late-game in 2 and a small-but-powerful team in New Vegas), and as a result, their expertly trained troops equipped with (supposedly) the most advanced power armor and weapons in the wastes are barely stronger than your average Talon merc. Similar to the aforementioned Point Lookout enemies, the Fallout: New Vegas DLC enemies can become disproportionately overpowered at high levels, for example at Level 40+ on Very Hard, Lonesome Road's Tunnelers will two-shot you and its upgraded Deathclaws will one-shot you, regardless of armor, and even Lobotomites in Old World Blues deal bonus damage that can chop off up to half your HP, more than you can deal with the same weapons. The Lonesome Road example is somewhat justified by The Divide being a hellish Death World even by Wasteland standards, Deathclaws already being The Dreaded of the series and Tunnelers being shown to be able to go toe-to-toe with a Deathclaw when hunting in packs. This is because the DLC packs use Level Scaling, to avoid the issue of either a starting player getting creamed or a max-level player stomping them into dirt. This even applies somewhat to weapons. One weapon in the game is the .45 Auto submachine gun, or tommygun. Another is the Laser RCW, a tommygun modded to use lasers instead. In pretty much every other case, lasers outdamage conventional firearms to compensate for their rarity, much less one from the 20s. But since the regular tommygun was only added in Honest Hearts and the RCW is quite common in the base game, the tommygun crushes it in just about every stat.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_74a4c704	comment	In Kingdom Hearts, Captain Hook, who is merely a pirate captain without any special powers and is often depicted as a Harmless Villain, has higher stats and HP than Jafar's genie form or giant Ursula. The same types of enemies become stronger as the story progresses, as well. This is lampshaded in the opening with the narration reading, "The closer you get to the light, the greater your shadow becomes."
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_792239e5	comment	In Tales of Symphonia: One Optional Boss turns out to be Celes, Zelos' sickly younger sister. Despite having spent her entire life in a cloister and having done none of the adventuring, fighting or anything that the party has, she's still tougher than most of the regular bosses in the game, which includes dragons, robotic guardians, and 4000-year old combat veterans with Magitek implants. This is Hand Waved by her use of a an exsphere and having an elven grandparent, giving her access to high level magic. It's also worth noting that if she were fought with a full party instead of one-on-one, she would not be difficult at all. And in the way of regular enemies, we have gems like starved convicts that turn out to be more powerful than Desian elite troopers.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_7c31fdd7	comment	In Valkyrie Profile, one of the most horrifyingly tough enemies in the game is... a hamster. Definitely underscored when that enemy spawns from an encounter in the bonus dungeon that would normally be against a recolor of one of the final bosses. You look forward to fighting a survivable battle with a giant.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_7d8c61a2	comment	Star Wars: The Old Republic has a few examples: The game places max-level turrets and guard NPCs at the entrance of every major settlement that the players of the opposing faction (Empire or Republic) can theoretically enter, in order to prevent them from infiltrating a PvP-safe zone. This, however, begs the question of why should the low-level PCs bust their asses following the story and working their way up through the ranks if their faction already has enough epic level fighters on freaking guard duty to capture the enemy capital (which actually only has a handful of high-level NPCs because it is inaccessible by the opposing faction) and end the war overnight. Really blatant with the Operations as of patch 3.3. Each operation is for what used to be the max level when it came. As a result, the weakest of all Final Bosses is a Sorcerous Overlord from a race of Abusive Precursors who was sealed away by his own race because they feared him... on the upper end, you have a pirate gang without a single Force user. Patch 4.0 attempts to avert this as much as possible. All operations are now at Level Cap, and Level Scaling is universally implemented. Meaning, if you are on a level 30 planet, your stats are those of a level 35 at best.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_7e22b6b0	comment	The effect is noticeable between the first and second games, but it becomes more so with Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, which basically breaks the logic of the established setting altogether. In Shadows of Amn, when you met, say, an 18th-level character, they'd be considered very powerful as they would be in the setting at large (like the legendary hero Drizzt Do'Urden, who's not quite level 18). In Throne of Bhaal, such characters are a dime a dozen, and even regular mooks, such as the above mentioned rank-and-file Tehyrian soldiers, are well armed and strong enough to stand up to a party past level 20. They even all deploy +3 swords, which would be very rare and powerful, and one of them could completely dominate the entire Flaming Fist barracks in the first game. Not counting the supporting spellcasters which can sling high level magic...
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_7fc78282	comment	Any The Lord of the Rings RPG featuring the Uruk-Hai before the orcs. According to Word of God, The Uruk-Hai are superior to orcs, but they are much weaker than orcs in any RPG where they are faced first. Even the goblins are stronger than them in the GBA version of Return of the King.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_865b5c19	comment	Many similar-looking enemies like skeletons in Runescape have different strength based on the dungeon they are in. In Daemonheim, the enemies get stronger based on number of players raiding the dungeon and the floor number.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_86814e94	comment	Final Fantasy XI: "No matter how strong you are, somewhere on Vana'diel there is a rabbit who can kick your ass."
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_8f4731fb	comment	The Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series has missions revolving around catching criminals. But due to the mission generator, the criminal you'll find is completely random but with statistics based on the mission rank. So, you can fight very weak versions of final evolution mons around half game and unbelievably strong versions of first-stage Com Mons on late game.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_959e6cb	comment	Dragon Quest IX had this: The demonic witch Morag. Her backstory indicates that she single-handedly brought about the destruction of the entire kingdom of Brigadoom. However, at the end of the day, she is merely the third boss fought in the entire game. So that legendary demonic witch of lore? Yeah, she got her blue butt handed to her by a few rookies armed with oak staves and laundry poles. Post-game DLC (which had probably been planned in advance) reveals that she actually wasn't responsible for destroying Brigadoom, she "only" captured its hero. The actual destroyer of Brigadoom is much stronger (but much weaker than your party will be by the time you unlock the quest).
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_959e84f	comment	Dragon Quest VI: Lampshaded; if you defeat the Superboss Nokturnus, he'll agree to help you defeat the final boss - by instantly teleporting to the final dungeon and defeating the boss singlehandedly in a Curb-Stomp Battle for kicks.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_99b204c6	comment	Played with in regards to the Gym Leaders/Kahunas. Initially, it seems unusual that eight of the strongest PokÃ©mon trainers in the region will have have PokÃ©mon that will be eclipsed in levels by even wild PokÃ©mon just hours later. However, one of the adaptations explains that gym leaders have different teams of differing strengths depending on how many badges you have, with the games themselves implying the same thing (with Cheren mentioning how he is not allowed to use his "usual partners").
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_9d34190a	comment	The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind features two Expansion Packs, Tribunal and Bloodmoon. As they were designed for higher level characters than Morrowind's main quest, a number of enemies are as hard or harder than the final boss of that quest. The final boss of Morrowind is a four-millennia old Physical God that three other deities were unable to defeat, and very few of the enemies in the expansions are anything nearly so spectacular story-wise. This is especially obvious in Bloodmoon, as it has more foes where you have context for how powerful they should be, and more powerful foes across the boardnote Bloodmoon spends a lot of time fighting wolves, bears, pirates and gangs of naked Nords. It also has the corrupt boss of a newly started local chapter of a commercial company you join be more powerful than the veteran mages, assassins and soldiers leading Morrowind's factions. Oblivion is a rare example that has this happen despite level scaling. Almost every generic enemy in the game scales with your player's level as you get stronger, which can lead to some strange circumstances. Probably the best example is bandits and the city watch/Imperial Legion soldiers; at the beginning of the game, Imperial Legionaries and city guards are some of the most dangerous non-player characters you can pick a fight with, as they have reasonably good equipment even at the start of the game, and they are always 10 levels above your player, no matter what, which is some of the highest disparities you will see level-wise. However, while their stats are always good, their gear does not improve in the slightest... Which is why lowly bandits can eventually overcome professional soldiers of the strongest army in Tamriel, as they get higher levels and better gear as time goes on. At some point in the game, it will not be uncommon to see the Imperial City itself surrounded by forts filled to the brim with bandits equipped with daedric (or glass) arms and armor that could slaughter the entire garrison without breaking a sweat, while the guards, even the elite palace guard, are still working with steel-quality armor and silver-quality swords. Creatures are affected in a somewhat similar manner. Skyrim: Similar to Morrowind, Skyrim features a number of enemies stronger than the final boss of the base game. To recap, the base game final boss is a dragon called Alduin, a Physical God demonic dragon who's a force of nature, existing to end the world when it's time. Due to the way his Level Scaling works, this means fighting him ranges from quite challenging if you've blazed through the main quest only to quite trivial at higher levels (Bethesda, who made the game, actually suggested to fight him before you reach level 24 to keep the fight challenging; you'll likely hit level 24 after playing roughly 15 hours in a game with 100+ hours of content). However, another enemy known as a magical anomaly level scales exponentially, meaning that as you level up they gain health faster than you do. Plus, unlike most other enemies there's no cap to how strong they can get, resulting in very long, drawn-out battles with them at high levels. The two Expansion Packs - Dawnguard and Dragonborn - also add a variety of enemies stronger than Alduin. The final bosses of those two expansion packs are an ancient vampire lord named Harkon and a 4000+ year-old Evil Counterpart of you named Miraak. While the latter does at least have a deity backing him up to justify his strength, the former is supposedly just a typical (albeit experienced) vampire, but the fight is quite harder than Alduin: he can turn intangible, for one, and turn invulnerable while regenerating his health. If that's not enough, Harkon and Miraak aren't even the strongest enemies - remember how Alduin is a deity and leader of all dragons who you're recommended to fight at level 24? The expansions added revered dragons and legendary dragons with more health which deal more damage than Alduin. There's also a frost giant named Karstaag. What makes him unique is that when you encounter him he'll always be at level 90, meaning unless you've put an absurd amount of time into the game, he'll have much more HP than you, at 4000. Alduin, comparatively, will only have 3370HP at most due to the level scaling cap. But to really take the cake, fans agree probably the most challenging enemy in the game is the Ebony Warrior, encountered at level 80. Who is he? Just a Badass Normal warrior outfitted in powerfully enchanted gear. Yup, a guy in armor is stronger than a force of nature.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_9f89a5f0	comment	In the PokÃ©mon games: The farther you get through the games, the stronger the wild PokÃ©mon become, in spite of there not being any logical reason why you'd never encounter powerful PokÃ©mon near your home town. Somewhat played with in Gen VII with SOS Battles, where it's possible (but extremely rare) to encounter PokÃ©mon like Salamence before leaving the first island...though they will still be extremely low-leveled, despite not being able to evolve to that form anywhere close to said level.note On the off chance you do meet a Bagon that summons a Salamence, said Salamence will be around Lv. 10. Bagon's evolutionary line doesn't evolve into Salamence until Lv. 50. PokÃ©mon Sword and Shield mix things up. Many wild area PokÃ©mon do get stronger as the character gets more badges but there are also many that are too strong to be caught until enough badges are obtained. Played with in regards to the Gym Leaders/Kahunas. Initially, it seems unusual that eight of the strongest PokÃ©mon trainers in the region will have have PokÃ©mon that will be eclipsed in levels by even wild PokÃ©mon just hours later. However, one of the adaptations explains that gym leaders have different teams of differing strengths depending on how many badges you have, with the games themselves implying the same thing (with Cheren mentioning how he is not allowed to use his "usual partners"). Interestingly, PokÃ©mon in places that can only be reached with Surf or other HMs that can only be received later in the games also generally have levels comparable to the level the trainer would be when they get said HM. So, you can have a bunch of level 5 PokÃ©mon in grass on one route, and surf over one square to an island where there are level 20 PokÃ©mon. Many of the games have some amount of post-game content after you beat the Elite Four and/or Champion, supposedly the best trainers in the world. The trope is taken to a whole new level as you find countless ordinary trainers with PokÃ©mon that make the Champ's seem pathetically inexperienced. In PokÃ©mon Gold and Silver, Lance's highest-leveled PokÃ©mon is a Level 50 Dragonite; while only Blue and Red (both former Champions themselves) have higher-leveled teams, Lance's levels have gone down from the Kanto games when he was simply an Elite Four member. The HeartGold and SoulSilver remakes rectify this by having the Elite Four's levels improve in the postgame with stronger PokÃ©mon. The post-game of PokÃ©mon Black 2 and White 2 pulls this off to absurd levels: after defeating the Elite Four and foiling Ghetsis, you can explore areas that were early-game areas in the original Black and White which were made into postgame areas in the sequels. Cue the ridiculous PokÃ©mon levels. (There's a preschooler with a level 60 Wooper! This is especially bizarre because Wooper evolves at level 20.) For extra hilarity, the girl standing in a patch of grass will also give you a standard Potion in the midst of trainers with PokÃ©mon that can deal a lot more than 20 HP's worth of damage. The strongest PokÃ©mon in existence in terms of base stats used to be Arceus, which isn't surprising due to it being the in-universe equivalent of God. That is, until Generation VI came along, in which case, both of Mewtwo's Mega Evolutions surpass it in terms of strength, as well as Rayquaza's Mega Evolution, which can potentially be even stronger due to it being the only PokÃ©mon that can Mega Evolve without an item.note Mega Rayquaza broke the Ubers tier on Smogon so thoroughly, a new tier removing all restrictions was created simply to counter its might. Downplayed in that it's only possible for PokÃ©mon to be within their Mega Evolved forms under certain circumstances, and even then, the alternate form is only temporary. While not as strong as the Mega Evolutions of Mewtwo and Rayquaza in terms of base stats, Primal Groudon and Primal Kyogre, the Primal Reversions of Groudon and Kyogre, respectively, are still more powerful than Arceus itself. In Generations II and III, PokÃ©mon hatched from eggs start at level 5. Wild PokÃ©mon can be found at levels as low as 2, thus being weaker than literal newborns of the same species. From Gen IV onwards, eggs hatch PokÃ©mon at level 1.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a4e6a00a	comment	In Skies of Arcadia Legends: One of the Optional Bosses are a trio of con-artist actors who are trying to capitalize on the party's fearsome reputation to scam people for money, and will fight you when you try to bring them in. Despite this definite civilian background, every single one of them have more HP than your entire party combined and possess variants of your own moves that are many times more powerful — which raises the question of why they didn't simply become Air Pirates on their own instead. Another Optional Boss is a young boy who is, by his own admission, a coward who abhors violence and would like to become a blanketweaver instead of succeeding his late father into the Air Pirate business. Again, he is many times more endurable than the party combined and knows many of the highest-level spells for no adequately explained reason.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a606596a	comment	Chrono Cross has this on display too: Early in the game, you face what are billed as at worst Elite Mooks. Naturally, the teenage protagonist and the kind girl next door carve a bloody swath through them. These guys are about on par with mutant plant creatures nearby ...and certainly no match for the actual generic enemies later on. And let's not forget that the most powerful of the Acacia Dragoons is not the battle-axe wielding warrior or the muscled mountain of a gladiator, but a nine-year-old girl in a pretty dress, who has more Hit Points than the two others combined and deals more physical damage just by kicking you in the shin with her shoes. Marcy is, however, a Demi-human (not that kind, though). That Mermaid blood in her likely accounts for the perceived disparity.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a81325d3	comment	Final Fantasy games suffer from this one at times, especially when the Bonus Dungeon features Palette Swap versions of regular enemies who are stronger than the last boss: A prominent offender is Crisis Core, where the SOLDIER missions feature a fairly limited palette of generic monsters who sometimes appear with boss-level stats as the missions get harder. Most egregious was a Mission tier in which a hard battle with a hologram of Sephiroth was followed by a much, much, much harder battle with... a chicken. The Dawn Of Souls remake of Final Fantasy features Bonus Dungeons where you can fight bosses from the other 2D games. The bosses from III, IV, and V start out as on par with Tiamat in the Temple of Fiends and only get stronger from there, but they're all either elemental fiends themselves, or beings like Gilgamesh or Atomos, so it basically checks out. Then you get to VI, where the bosses include an Ultros with three times as many HP as Tiamat. This trope crops up Final Fantasy XIII with the Sanctum's Bioweapons. The datalog entry on the Bioweapons claims that the Bioweapons are just as strong as their wild kin, but in gameplay statistically almost all of the wild versions of a given Bioweapon are far stronger than the Bioweapon version, particularly when one gets to Pulse. For example, the Pulsian Behemoths would defeat all but the Proto-Behemoths in the endgame with ease, and even those wouldn't last long.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a825da3e	comment	Magic: The Gathering can often fall into this with respect to a creature's stats being disproportionately high or low in relation to other cards. In general, 1/1 is meant to represent an ordinary but armed and combat-ready human◊, which causes some weird outcomes when something goes above that. To note a few specific examples: The simple Horseshoe Crab is a 1/3 creature. Compare that to the 1/1 Llanowar Elves (armed and trained elven warriors) or Yellow Scarves Cavalry (an entire cavalry regiment). The 1/1 Akroan Crusader, essentially a generic soldier of Ancient Grome, would be destroyed by Sanctuary Cat, a 1/2 simple house cat. Traveling Philosopher, an explicitly non-magical human advisor, has the same power and toughness as a Grizzly Bear. A zig-zagged example is Segovian Leviathan, a card whose artwork shows it being so large, its eyes dwarf nearby whales. Its statline? 3/3, the same as a mundane elephant and completely unremarkable, especially compared to most Leviathans. A much later expansion would reveal as a Mythology Gag that, in fact, Segovia is about 1/100 the size of most planes, and the Segovian Leviathan is indeed roughly the same size as an elephant - it only looks big because it's next to whales the size of goldfish.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a877956	comment	In The Witcher Kikimore are portrayed as pests throughout chapter 3, but can be difficult to take out at the start of the chapter, even though you have at this point killed supposedly much more powerful creatures.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_a993be1f	comment	Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords lampshades the point. The main character can note this fact to the mentor. The subsequent explanation is that the Sith are drawing power off of you, so as you increase in power, they do as well. It doesn't explain every other enemy in the game, but hey, the Sith are covered.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_b0666b59	comment	A Neverwinter Nights 1 walkthrough listed the initial destruction of the academy as "Attack of the 1 HP Kobolds",note Actually, goblins. who proceed to decimate a school full of several level 1 adventurers and all their teachers. Heck, most of the fellow student NPCs at the graduation ceremony die in the first battle!
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_b5a2b326	comment	Morrowind features two Expansion Packs, Tribunal and Bloodmoon. As they were designed for higher level characters than Morrowind's main quest, a number of enemies are as hard or harder than the final boss of that quest. The final boss of Morrowind is a four-millennia old Physical God that three other deities were unable to defeat, and very few of the enemies in the expansions are anything nearly so spectacular story-wise. This is especially obvious in Bloodmoon, as it has more foes where you have context for how powerful they should be, and more powerful foes across the boardnote Bloodmoon spends a lot of time fighting wolves, bears, pirates and gangs of naked Nords. It also has the corrupt boss of a newly started local chapter of a commercial company you join be more powerful than the veteran mages, assassins and soldiers leading Morrowind's factions.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_b659836d	comment	The Elder Scrolls Online: The rather unique levelling system means that you'll do the same amount of damage whether you're level 1 or level 50. Good news: People can adventure together even if one is vastly higher or lower level. Bad news: Enemies that traditionally become super easy to kill (such as mudcrabs) never become easy to kill, always taking just as many hits.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_b70b472e	comment	Warhammer Online has the right enemy types as champions and heroes that you'd expect, but even a level 3 hero is nothing to a level 40 mob. This leads to Elven Princes, Chaos Giants, enormous summoned Daemons and veteran Captains being many times weaker than... a militia member's dog.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_bdf6d43e	comment	Similar to the Super Robot Wars example above, Project Ã— Zone has this in spades as a result of it's massive cast. Characters range from normal humans to demonic demigods to alien robots, all of whom are equal in their ability tear through the hordes of enemies of several worlds.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_c2463c46	comment	The Dawn Of Souls remake of Final Fantasy features Bonus Dungeons where you can fight bosses from the other 2D games. The bosses from III, IV, and V start out as on par with Tiamat in the Temple of Fiends and only get stronger from there, but they're all either elemental fiends themselves, or beings like Gilgamesh or Atomos, so it basically checks out. Then you get to VI, where the bosses include an Ultros with three times as many HP as Tiamat.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_d3b17858	comment	In Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lucavi are stated to be powerful enough to battle armies single-handedly. So logically, they'd be ridiculously hard, right? Wrong; almost all Lucavi, save Belias and Elidibs, are very easy to defeat. Hell, more often than not their human forms are far harder as bosses. Belias is only even hard because of the demons he spawns with. A more specific example of the trope is that enemies in plot-based missions have fixed levels, while random encounters level with the player. At high levels you might be able to easily dispatch the multiple consecutive main villains in the final dungeon, but get slaughtered by random Level 99 monks and samurais while exploring the overworld.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_dbd793bc	comment	d20 Modern has an adventure in Urban Arcana that begins with kobold gang members attacking a restaurant and trying to murder all the customers. Despite the adventure's text seemingly portraying them as dangerous and capable of easily killing untrained humans, however, the actual stat blocks make them extremely trivial to dispatch by Level 1 PCs, even though the PCs are not much better fighters than the average person.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_df8856e6	comment	Not exactly fighting them at first, but in Dungeon Siege II, the Mordens in the first chapter are much weaker than ones that appear later.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_e04f934e	comment	The prologue of Fire Emblem: Three Houses has you aided by the player character's father, Jeralt the Blade Breaker. In story, he's possibly the most powerful warrior on the continent, having led the knights of one of the most powerful factions and generally being treated as a living legend. During the prologue, he's a level 3 Paladin, a level you'll probably reach by Chapter 1 of 22. That's certainly not bad, especially since he's starting in an Advanced class, but it's pretty low compared to the other Knights of Seiros, including his former squire Alois who is also in an Advanced class and ranges between level 15 as an Ally Unit after Chapter 6, to level 21 when he (possibly) joins you for real in Chapter 11. The highest level Jeralt can ever get before his Plotline Death is 25.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_eb6802b4	comment	This trope crops up Final Fantasy XIII with the Sanctum's Bioweapons. The datalog entry on the Bioweapons claims that the Bioweapons are just as strong as their wild kin, but in gameplay statistically almost all of the wild versions of a given Bioweapon are far stronger than the Bioweapon version, particularly when one gets to Pulse. For example, the Pulsian Behemoths would defeat all but the Proto-Behemoths in the endgame with ease, and even those wouldn't last long.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_ec02633a	comment	In The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt enemies are occasionally buffed to serve as a Beef Gate to high-end quests. This can result in absurdities such as a swarm of ghouls, usually considered bread-and-butter work for a Witcher, being roughly as powerful as a vampire or a stone golem.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_ec28245c	comment	Some have questioned how Dr. Gero in Dragon Ball Z, a human scientist with access only to the relatively more primitive Earth technology, could build androids stronger than Freeza, the ruler of the entire galaxy.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_ecd2d797	comment	City guards and soldiers (and bandits etc.) in the Baldur's Gate series grow consistently more powerful as you go through the games and expansions, to the point that by the end, even basic infantry in the Tethyrian army are magically armed and armored supermen to keep up with the fact that your player character is more or less the biggest badass on the planet by that point (except for the bosses). Humorously, this means that the Amnish guards from Shadows of Amn could easily defeat the Flaming Fist from Baldur's Gate ...and the main plot of that game involved preventing a war between those two powers. Guess it's a good thing for the Gate that you succeeded, eh? The effect is noticeable between the first and second games, but it becomes more so with Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal, which basically breaks the logic of the established setting altogether. In Shadows of Amn, when you met, say, an 18th-level character, they'd be considered very powerful as they would be in the setting at large (like the legendary hero Drizzt Do'Urden, who's not quite level 18). In Throne of Bhaal, such characters are a dime a dozen, and even regular mooks, such as the above mentioned rank-and-file Tehyrian soldiers, are well armed and strong enough to stand up to a party past level 20. They even all deploy +3 swords, which would be very rare and powerful, and one of them could completely dominate the entire Flaming Fist barracks in the first game. Not counting the supporting spellcasters which can sling high level magic... It goes the other way as well; Ilasera is one of the Five, a group of immensely powerful Bhaalspawn tearing the land apart, but she's also the very first enemy you face, and the devs have to account for the player starting their game at Throne of Bhaal and thus having to fight her solo, so her abilities consist of casting low level magic and trying ineffectively to stab you.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_ee384546	comment	Cyberpunk 2077, using a similar system as the aforementioned Witcher 3, has its moments as well. Set in a futuristic megacity which is carved up into the territories of various street gangs of roughly equal power, these zones are nevertheless also designed to provide a level-based experience of progression and exploration. Thus, you will eventually run into areas where every common gangster grunt with no particular extras is somehow a superhuman who could easily solo the gangs you've fought before in their entirety. Particularly amusing in that some of the more low-level gangs have access to extreme cybernetic augmentation and cutting-edge weapon technology, while some of the more high-level gangs are just composed of ordinary people and heavily based on existing real life groups.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_f120845f	comment	If you're fighting a hobo in Kingdom of Loathing, you're either in the lowest level area (the Sleazy Back Alley), or one of the highest (the Bonus Dungeon Hobopolis).
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_f5a661a6	comment	Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous: A lot of the enemies you encounter, especially later in the game, have been drastically increased in power from their tabletop equivalents in order to provide a better challenge. Additionally, mythic monsters are much more commonplace than they were in the tabletop, and besides boasting increased stats they resurrect automatically when killed the first time, making them that much more durable. As an example: In the adventure path an Ã¨corche is a powerful undead which is only encountered once as an NPC in one of the final dungeons of the story. In the game, depending on where you explore, you may encounter it as an enemy (which is also playing dead and gets the jump on you) as soon as Chapter 3 starts.
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Improbable Power Discrepancy / int_f9368d52	comment	In Chain of Memories, Riku fights his way through Castle Oblivion backwards, so Level 1 Riku is dumped right into Hollow Bastion, traditionally one of the last worlds, if not the last world, in a typical Kingdom Hearts gamenote In the original game, it was the last world Sora visited before the endgame. In Sora's story in Chain of Memories, it's one of the second set of worlds, and generally considered the most difficult of the set. In II, however, Sora visits Hollow Bastion fairly early on in the game, and it ends up being the main town. Suddenly, fearsome-looking Defenders, Wizards and Darkballs are reduced to being as defenseless as kitty cats.
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Crystalis (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Dead Rising 2 (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Diablo II (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Divinity: Original Sin II (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Dragon Ball Online (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Dwarf Fortress (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Enshrouded (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Evil Islands (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Exit Fate (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Fallout 3 (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Final Fantasy X-2 (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
God of War RagnarÃ¶k (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Gold Box (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Homefront (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
MARDEK (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
MapleStory (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Neopets: The Darkest Faerie (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Pathfinder (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Pathfinder: Kingmaker (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Pathfinder (Video Game) (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
PokÃ©mon Black and White (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
PokÃ©mon Rumble (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
PokÃ©mon Unbound (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Pokémon X and Y (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Quest: Brian's Journey (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Super Robot Wars (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
TERA (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
The Lord of the Rings Online (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Titan Quest (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Warcraft (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Wasteland 2 (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Xenoblade (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Xenoblade Chronicles 1 (Video Game) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
[PROTOTYPE] / Videogame / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy
Epic NPC Man (Web Video) / int_87de091e	type	Improbable Power Discrepancy

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