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Is That What He Told You?

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Is That What He Told You?	comment	With the best of intentions (usually), your mentor or someone else you trust has been less than honest with you. Maybe he told you a half-truth, maybe an outright lie; maybe he just never mentioned something critical. Either way, you're about to learn the whole truth from someone else — and probably in the worst way possible. Be extra-prepared for this one if there's a lost relative in your backstory. Especially if it's a parent. And especially if it's a parent you loved dearly but don't remember much about. In some cases the lie is such that fans suspect the writer is actually trying for a subtle Retcon, but it's usually impossible to be sure about that unless you're the writer. See Luke, I Am Your Father (of course) and Mysterious Parent for related tropes. This trope tends to be spoilery; read the examples at your own risk.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_1331990c	comment	Homura gives Kagami a condensed explanation of what she's doing in her universe early on in Stars Above. A few chapters later, Kyubey reveals that said explanation left a few important details out...
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Is That What He Told You? / int_1c25dba1	comment	In Suikoden V, you play as the prince of a large and powerful kingdom. The plot is kickstarted when the powerful Godwin-family seizes the castle with their private army, kills your parents, and forces you to flee into exile along with your faithful bodyguard, Georg, who was a close friend of your late father. Much, much later, you 'rescue' a former Queen's Knight who had been forced to work with the Godwins after they seized control of the palace, and she soon reveals that Georg was the one who killed the Queen. He might have had a reason, but it still seems like it would've been a good idea to let you know... Of course, you have the chance to find out beforehand: If you investigated Georg thoroughly in the second game (which happened, chronologically, after the fifth), it's revealed that he supposedly killed the queen of a foreign land. Also, it's fairly heavily foreshadowed in Suikoden V itself, to the point where it's not much of a surprise. The heroes just assumed he was innocent; Georg never claimed differently, nor made any effort to disprove it. Also, this trope is played more straight with the "rescued" Queens Knight rather then Georg, as she had only witnessed the end of that whole sorry affair. It's not until later when another Knight (who saw the whole thing) shows up that the full story is set reviled.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_20ac8a71	comment	Certain comics characters, usually team leaders, tend to keep secrets that get revealed via this trope. Niles Caulder of Doom Patrol, Professor X of X-Men, and Raven in the early days of Teen Titans are good examples.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_261c8d3f	comment	The Simpsons uses this trope in one episode which had Marge Simpson initially being utterly terrified of flying in an airplane. During her time spent with a psychologist, it is eventually revealed that this fear all started when she was a young child. Her father told her all about the exciting job he had as an airline pilot, but one day she sneaks onto the plane where he's working and discovers, to her shock and dismay, that he is actually a mere flight attendant (or "steward", as they were called back in the day). The fact he had to wear the same uniform as the stewardesses didn't help. Marge also brings up memories of her grandmother accidentally poking her in the eye as a baby while playing airplane, a toy plane catching fire, and having a plane fire at her and her mother while looking at corn.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_26674ed5	comment	This is pretty much the entire plot of Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_28508de	comment	Winx Club has Bloom finding out about her royal roots (which is why she has her powers) from the Trix, even though Faragonda had at least suspected her roots earlier.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_390e5c71	comment	In The Genesis of Shannara, a demon saying this to Kirisin leads him to realize that Tragen was actually a shape-shifting demon
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Is That What He Told You? / int_3b34143f	comment	Harry Potter suffers this trope on a regular basis. Dumbledore tells Harry at the end of the first book that his father, James Potter, once saved Snape's life. Not until the third book does he learn — from Snape — that James's friend was responsible for Snape's life being in danger to begin with. He also left out the fact that, rather than just being enemies like Harry and Malfoy, James and his friends regularly bullied Snape — despite being a Gryffindor, James seems to have been the Malfoy in this comparison, albeit a Malfoy without the racism and bigotry which Snape more than fully carried. In manner and timing, Harry finding out who revealed part of the prophecy to Voldemort. For timing, the nature of the "weapon" being guarded in the Department of Mysteries. Dumbledore never mentioned it to Harry that he might just end up having to let Voldemort kill him in to save the Wizarding World — but, thankfully, he gets better.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_49cb4bc1	comment	Ben 10: Alien Swarm: Grandpa Max told Ben and Gwen that Elena's father quit the Plumbers and his family moved away. Elena gets ticked off when she hears this, and Ben later learns that Victor was actually fired for stealing the Nanochips after he discovered that they were living creatures instead of dormant technology.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_53bd0aaf	comment	Happens to the four in With Strings Attached. They're told different stories about the history of the planet C'hou, specifically the curse on Ketafa and the significance of the Vasyn, until finally they hear the real story of the curse and the real significance of the Vasyn. Slightly subverted in that everyone who told them a story sincerely believed they were telling the truth. Even Jeft.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_59267e0f	comment	In Inverloch, Achelon's family knows a secret he does not, and prefers to let him discover by himself that he is actually the elf he is looking for.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_5c622d7f	comment	Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening has a variation. Vergil questions and mocks Lady after she confronts him in Mission 13 over her father Arkham supposedly being manipulated by "a Devil named Vergil" when he murdered her mother Kalina Ann, tricking Lady into going after Vergil to get revenge.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_6c1d09b3	comment	In Fallout 3, the Lone Wanderer's father doesn't tell him that he wasn't born in Vault 101.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_706530e6	comment	In Industrial Magic, rogue witches under the employ of Savannah's sorcerer father ofter to help Paige (Savannah's guardian) perform the Menarche Rites that will unlock Savannah's full magic power. Paige is then told by the rogues that the Rites she was taught was a nerfed version of the real thing: The witches themselves had created a lesser version, in order to keep themselves better hidden. Paige is not happy about this discovery.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_73d7930f	comment	The secretive Garak of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine caused a few of these, usually for Dr. Bashir. In "The Wire", he tells Bashir several conflicting stories about his past in the Obsidian Order, all involving his friend Elim... which, Bashir ultimately finds out elsewhere, is just Garak's first name. Granted, Bashir pretty much knew Garak was lying the whole time, and the reveals about Garak in general fail to elicit the dramatic response on Bashir's part normally associated with this trope.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_73dd3d5	comment	Magneto says this almost verbatim to Pyro in X2: X-Men United ("Is that what they say?"), regarding him being "the bad guy". It wasn't a lie, so much as a point of view.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_77f5af7f	comment	In Juathuur, Soveshei says this to Dejoru. Who lost his parents "in a storm at sea".
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Is That What He Told You? / int_791fca44	comment	BioShock uses this to explain its Arc Words.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_7c48915b	comment	Antimony in Gunnerkrigg Court is being kept in the dark about her parents. Granted, she isn't asking the faculty who presumably could help her; the one person she does ask isn't answering because he's a self-centered jerk.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_8d817ccb	comment	A rare good guy example is Charlie in the third season finale of Lost. He uses the fact that Ben lies a lot to mess with the heads of his captors. Another instance involving Ben's lack of truthfulness is when a captive Sayid tells Alex that she looks like her mother. Alex says her mother is dead, to which Sayid replies, "I'm sure that's what they told you."
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Is That What He Told You? / int_8ee7338a	comment	In Royal Blue, Lobelia gets this when she realises that her father had her mother killed after he discovered that she was a Deviant, instead of going missing in an attack like she was told. She also learns that Deviants aren't just not allowed in the palace, they are imprisoned.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_b0b4e8ff	comment	This happens twice in Jade Empire, first with Sagacious Zu and the Water Dragon telling you, then you telling Dawn Star that she is in fact Master Li's long lost daughter, and then again when it turns out the final phase of Master Li's plan to rescue himself and defeat the Emperor which his accomplices have been guiding you through is killing you. Not to mention that The reason you are the last spirit monk is because Sun Li killed all of them, except you, who he trained for use against his brother, the emperor
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Is That What He Told You? / int_b704a08a	comment	Mostly played for laughs with the titular Reborn in Reborn! (2004).
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Is That What He Told You? / int_b9b796cf	comment	Emiya Shirou of Fate/stay night has these moments throughout the series. His father, Emiya Kiritsugu, only told him that he was a magus; the rest, and there's a lot, comes out mostly through Saber and Kotomine. For instance, Shirou knows his father saved him from a fire, but it's Saber who tells him that the fire was caused by the previous Grail War (in which she was Kiritsugu's Servant). Further comes to a head in the Heaven's Feel route where he has heard the name Einzbern, leading to Saber blurting out Kiritsugu's name... And prompting Shirou to request a detailed info dump, from both Saber and then Kotomine, making him more aware of the bigger picture, much earlier in the conflict.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_bb3fde3d	comment	In an alternate timeline of Danny Phantom, Maddie is convinced by her husband Vlad that her actual true love, Jack, hates her for the mistake that has been bestowed upon him—that is, being half ghost and thoroughly miserable about it—only to find out that Vlad had been lying to her to keep Jack out of the picture due to jealously. Jack was obviously still in love with her. Danny eventually fixed the mess.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_bd310eaa	comment	In El Goonish Shive, Elliot learns about the other side of the story of Justin's outing. "She told one person."
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Is That What He Told You? / int_c43df4d8	comment	Similarly, in Doctor Who, people who encounter the Doctor often end up finding things out the hard way. Depending on the particular Doctor, this can be anything from manipulation to simple carelessness.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_d461f757	comment	Bulldog is on the receiving end in the Battlestar Galactica (2003) episode "Hero".
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Is That What He Told You? / int_d69208d2	comment	Codename: Kids Next Door actually uses these words exactly, with Father telling Numbuh 2 that contrary to what 2 had been told, 2's father always finished last in tubing.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_d7c4626a	comment	Dream from The Sandman (1989) says this when he encounters someone calling himself the Sandman and laughs himself silly. "You? You are the Sandman? Is that what they told you, little ghost?"
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Is That What He Told You? / int_de6659ec	comment	In Once Upon a Time 2.11, Captain Hook says this to Belle while holding her at gunpoint, and then reveals a fact Rumplestiltskin left out when he told her about the Love Triangle between himself, Hook, and Rumple's ex-wife, Milah. Rumple killed her.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_f849875f	comment	Never try to keep a secret if you're an It's Walky! character. The Head Alien will pull this trope on you every time.
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Is That What He Told You? / int_ffb43795	comment	Cobra Kai: Daniel runs into his old nemesis Chozen, who tells him that Mr. Miyagi didn't teach him everything about the Miyagi-Do style. While Daniel's training focused mainly on defense, the original style has plenty of aggressive moves and even some paralyzing pressure-point techniques, which he finds out the hard way during their sparring match. A variation (minus the "someone else") plays a part in Kreese's Start of Darkness. While a POW in Vietnam, he has to fight his commander to the death for the entertainment of their captors. The commander picks that moment to reveal that Kreese's girlfriend back home had died (which he had concealed since well before they started the mission) to gain an edge in the fight. Kreese ends up winning anyway and chooses to kill the commander even though circumstances had changed and he could have saved him.
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Xaterex Multiverse Storyline (Fanfic) / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
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X2: X-Men United / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
Aethernea / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
The Heritage of Shannara / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
The Otherworld / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
Reborn! (2004) (Manga) / int_e67aff55	type	Is That What He Told You?
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