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It's Not Porn, It's Art
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Sure, it's got lots of naked people in suggestive poses on full display. But it's thoroughly artistic — I swear! Therefore it can't be considered pornography, and it doesn't matter that it's hidden under my bed. Pornographic works carry a considerable stigma in the U.S. and (to a lesser extent) in other Western countries. As a result, the opposite trope is Corrupting Pornography. However, a lot of classic works of art contain nudity (and, occasionally, sex acts). For this reason, legally a work of art is not considered pornographic under U.S. obscenity laws; what constitutes "artistic merit" is left somewhat vague. One result is that fictional characters (and occasionally real people) will try to get away with reading, watching, or creating something that most people would consider pornographic by claiming that the item in question is really a "work of art". For teenage boys (the usual claimant) this never works. Occasionally it's the "artist" making the claim, in which case he or she may or may not get away with it. Bonus points if he insists that the fault is in the viewer, who has a dirty mind. In either case, the item in question will be something very few people would consider "artistic", unless the trope is being played with, particularly if the item in question genuinely does possess artistic merit even if it is porn — i.e., they're defending themselves from the belief that True Art is Clean. After all, who said that porn can't be art? This trope is something of an inversion of the standard idea of Moral Guardians, who are typically presumed wrongnote "It's not art, it's porn" — hence why Moral Guardians themselves often use this trope in works made by them (or works parodying them). National Geographic Nudity follows on the same "these naked people are depicted solely for educational purposes" line, not just in the trope-naming magazine, but in other venues too (including an entire genre of magazine dedicated to nudism which was presumably educational to those interested in that subject matter ... but as with National Geographic served other purposes for other readers). This trope ends up the subject of debate whenever a so-called mainstream film with unsimulated sexual acts is released (such films have turned up in cinemas since the 1960s but have become higher profile in the years since), or in the case of an increasing number of TV series and films, increased explicitness that stops just short of unsimulated. For some, the simple fact the film is being released in a venue other than an adult video store defines it as "not porn", or if a "notable director" or actors are involved. Porn Without Plot is not a delineator as there are many porn films with storylines that go beyond "seducing the pizza delivery boy." Compare I Read It for the Articles. No relation to It's Not Porn, It's an Index. Examples |
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Played with in Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony. When Luis teases Gay Tony about the phallic statues in his apartment, he quotes the trope title verbatim. | |
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Gate: Princess Piña Colada and her subordinate Bozes become very enthusiastic about acquiring Japanese "Fine Art" after encountering Yaoi Genre manga. | |
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Discussed in the novel Thud! — it's noted that the Stripperiffic clothing of exotic dancers is logically more obscene than "great art" showing completely naked women, on the account of (according to Sergeant Colon) the dancers having "No urns", or Plinths, or cupids in their presence. | |
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Inverted in a Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episode, where Fin utterly shuts down this defense to a book describing the show's version of Fifty Shades of Grey, claiming that, no matter how many degrees the author might have, "porn is porn". Most characters disagree, however, and treat the book as a legitimate work of literature. | |
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In Your Father And Mine, three of America's daughters are visiting an European museum and are horrified by all the pornography there. France and Spain are thoroughly nonplussed in front of their insistence to call paintings of nudes sexual. | |
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Played for laughs in Chappelle's Show, when Dave becomes Oprah Winfrey's "baby's daddy." Oprah doesn't bat an eye when she sees him painting a portrait with a gorgeous nude model, but after she leaves we see that he's just painting a big-boobed stick figure on the canvas. | |
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Parodied in Sluggy Freelance. The character Bert is a misunderstood, crotchety old artist. | |
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In the Spider-Man Noir Edge of Spider-Verse story, Aunt May is not impressed by Salvador Dalí. | |
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Coupling: "Inferno". While the video in question was undoubtedly pornographic (its full name was Lesbian Spank Inferno), Steve tries to present it as a feminist art movie with underlying social critique. An inversion occurs immediately afterward. When he fails to convince the others of this angle, he starts to rant that it doesn't matter, since every invention and scientific progress (including fire, the printing press, and the Internet) had only one purpose: to enable men to see naked female bottoms. | |
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From an episode of Bottom, as Eddie tries to defend his purchase of an old porn magazine as an 'investment' by comparing it to the Sistine Chapel. It's later revealed that porn or art, Richie uses both for the same purpose. |
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Also, one annoying character in his Slaughterhouse-Five was showing to his squadmate what was described as "a print of the first dirty photograph in history". Allegedly, the author of the original photograph (an assistant to Louis Daguerre), when confronted by the authorities, resorted to the "It's art" defence. | |
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In Party Down, actor Steve Guttenberg owns a painting of an erect nude man holding a porcupine. The profound artistic value of the artwork is summed up by the following statement: "He wants to have sex with the porcupine. But he can't." | |
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Mark is an art dealer in Love Actually, whose gallery showcased a series of Christmas themed nudes. He said the trope name to a bunch of school girls giggling at the photograph of nude carolers. What was funnier is that a deleted scene showed Mark’s first comment when he opened the pictures: | |
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An episode of The Simpsons played with this; the "pornographic" work in question was Michelangelo's David◊. It goes something like this: Marge has successfully crusaded to get cartoon violence off the air. When her fellow Moral Guardians come to her to complain about David, she says she's okay with it because it's art. A bit later, Dr. Marvin Monroe (a psychiatrist who was a guest in an earlier interview with Marge) confronts her on a news interview show and asks her how she can be for one form of expression and against another. She isn't able to give a satisfactory answer, so society declares her protest invalid and hypocritical and lets animated violence return (to the delight of Springfield's children). | |
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This is basically the entire plot of the Parks and Recreation episode, "Jerry's Painting." The Justice Stewart quote is cited in this scene. | |
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Hana-Kimi: Inverted when Mizuki buys an illustrated book that contains some nude photos. She doesn't want to show it to Sano, claiming she doesn't want him to look at porn, though in this case it really is art. | |
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The Big Lebowski: "I deal in publishing. Entertainment." "So which one is Logjammin'?" |
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My Life as a Dog: At the glassworks factory, an artist makes glass vases with breasts on them, prompting some complaints from his fellow workers. The artist also makes nude statues of women; others still raise their eyebrows at him because despite having artistic merit, the statues are twenty-foot tall structures. Ingemar gets caught peeping on the nude model being sketched by the artist when the glass window he's spying through shatters. | |
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The Beavis and Butt-Head episode "Figure Drawing" had the pair join an art class just so they could stare at the nude model, and try to hit her up. During a break, the model leaves and is replaced by a male model, which instantly turns them off. | |
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And again in Wintersmith, although when Nanny Ogg says the presence of cupids shows it's Art, and not just women with no clothes on, Granny Weatherwax sniffs, "Well, they're not foolin' me." | |
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In a flashback, Community's Jeff Winger used this trope to get his client, a stripper, acquitted of tax evasion by calling her work "non-profit performance art". | |
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Along the lines of the Discworld ruminations, in Best Served Cold, there is a passage in which the Anti-Hero Monza (who lives in a Renaissance Italian Fantasy Counterpart Culture) sees a piece of art that makes her question the distinction: "There was a huge canvas in a gleaming frame on one wall-a woman with an improbable bosom bathing in a stream, and seeming to enjoy it a lot more than was likely. Monza never had understood why getting out a tit or two made for a better painting. But painters seemed to think it did, so tits is what you got." | |
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In the Hero: The Guardian Smurf mini-story "Smurfette's Artistry", Smurfette creates a nude painting of Hero while Hero was at the time married to Wonder. Both Hero and Wonder consider it a work of art, but when Smurfette is alone with her painting, she takes it with her into her bedroom and stays there for a while with it. | |
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Homestuck's Equius Zahhak owns a collection of NUDE MUSCLEBEAST PORTRAITS. His opinion on the matter: The other trolls seem to consider the portraits to be fine art as well, possibly because trolls don't reproduce that way. To them, it's about as pornographic as a flower. |
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In Strangers in Paradise, Francine discovers that some of Katchoo's art are nudes calls them obscene. At that, Katchoo blows up herself, roaring "Don't you ever call my art obscene!" | |
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In a 3rd Rock from the Sun episode, Dick struggled to differentiate art and smut: | |
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An episode of Hoarders had a man who obsessively painted nude female figures, usually in sexually suggestive poses, and then hoarded them. | |
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When Commander Vimes visits his wife's estate in Snuff, he finds that her ancestors bought nude statuary. He reflexively checks that the statues are holding fruit, as "holding fruit" makes it art. Later on, he regrets that the master bathroom has been decorated in... meticulously detailed scenes of nude frolicking with no fruit or urns to be seen. | |
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Surprisingly averted in The People vs. Larry Flynt, which is all about pornographer Larry Flynt's legal struggles over Hustler magazine and the various pornographic, scatological and generally obscene content it produced. At no point does anyone even try to pretend that what Flynt does is in any way artistic; the central debate is basically whether the First Amendment and the rights to freedom of speech it guarantees should allow him to continue to publish it. | |
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The "Marie's Sculpture" episode of Everybody Loves Raymond, in which Marie Barone's energies are diverted into an art and sculpture class. Everyone relaxes. Until she comes home with an abstract statue full of pleasing curves and visual symmetries which looks, at first glance, like an unfolding flower. But at second glance it looks like the female genitals. Once this association is made, the wider Barone family find it hard not to see... note Still not seen in Great Britain and omitted from series re-runs because of the graphic sculpture prominently placed in full view | |
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Rise of the Minisukas: Kyoko has taken to writing fantasy novels while being stuck in Unit-02. Somewhat erotic fantasy novels. She defends her writing choices to Enigma in this manner. | |
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In Mrs Henderson Presents, Mrs. Henderson takes advantage of a loophole in the British law which meant that it was legal to have nudes on stage so long as they did not move, by posing naked ladies on the stage in 'artistic tableaux'. | |
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1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die contains a list of 1001 movies the author considers must-see movies, with each entry accompanied by a short essay explaining why. The introduction notes that the book aims to include the entire panorama of film history, with films from all eras, regions, and genres. However, pornographic films are conspicuously absent (even though there are some pornographic films that could be argued to be important in film history i.e. Andy Warhol's Blue Movie), and the entry for In the Realm of the Senses (an erotic arthouse film with unsimulated sex scenes including a man pushes an egg into a woman's vulva, forcing her to push it out before eating it) explicitly refers to it as a non-pornographic film. | |
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In Seinfeld, George tries unconvincingly to explain to Susan that the movie "Rochelle, Rochelle", which is about a girl's "erotic journey from Milan to Minsk", is actually a work of art, really more a "film" than a movie. (Susan's expression says it all.) | |
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Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. This is mentioned in the cutscene for the first porn studio mission. After walking onto the set and before revealing he's the new boss, Tommy starts yelling at director Steve Scott about the various props on the set. Then as it cuts back into the gameplay, Tommy says "What's that guy think this is? Some free art crap? Jeez, like anyone ever watched movies about fish." Played with in Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony. When Luis teases Gay Tony about the phallic statues in his apartment, he quotes the trope title verbatim. |
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In Eyes of Laura Mars, the protagonist is a successful photographer whose work focuses on scenes of sexualized violence, often including nude women. Her detractors accuse her of degrading women, but she says that this kind of violence is everywhere, and she just wants people to see it. | |
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On Three's Company, Jack answers an ad for a modeling job, only to find out that the photographer wants him to pose naked for a Playboy-esque magazine. But he insists on calling it "nude." | |
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The Frozen (2013) fanfic Frozen Wight has a peddler who tries to use this to justify some illicit paintings of Anna and Elsa. | |
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In The Office (US), Ryan attempts to pass off his amateur black-and-white photos as "artistic"; one is a topless photo of his ex(?)-girlfriend Kelly, which Ryan says is about "exposure in the workplace". In a deleted scene, Stanley says this when his coworkers catch him looking at Hentai. | |
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In George Michael's "I Want Your Sex (Part 1)", George asks, "What's your definition of dirty, baby? What do you consider pornography?" | |
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30 Rock: in the episode "Cougars", Frank's poorly rendered painting of a mermaid had to have the breasts covered for Standards, yet the outside of 30 Rockefeller Center is covered with carvings of topless women which are shown every week in the title sequence. | |
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High school students in the third Porky's attempt this on the Principal when caught misusing the Audio-Visual Club's equipment to view a stag film. They insist the film cannot be judged without viewing it in its entirety. While the gym teacher isn't buying it one bit, the principal is more than eager to screen it. | |
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In the first novel British agent Quiller goes on a long rant on the subject while tied up with nothing to look at but a painting of a nude woman that happens to be in the room. | |
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In The Anime Club, Mort tries to defend a Hentai anime (involving bestiality, no less) with this. It doesn't work well. | |
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This is a common topic of discussion of DeviantArt. The webpage allows frontal nudity (since it is considered art) but nothing that seems porn/hentai (example: someone grabbing a naked woman's boob). This leads to some conflict, because some "artists" upload pictures or their model/girlfriend/themselves with their legs opened in a less-than-subtle way, note leading to phrases like "I am no gynecologist, so how come I am always looking at pussy here?" whereas more artistic drawings/photos are rejected because they show person-to-person contact. This also gets discussed in cyclical fashion quite often on Furaffinity, where those who believe porn or anything designed to titillate/arouse has no artistic merit by its very nature, so that those who create porn or merely sexually-themed pictures and stories have to resort to this trope as a defense, unless they simply don't care what the Moral Guardians think of their work (and the argument that it is art never convinces them anyway). |
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The DCU: When Green Lantern Kyle Rayner and Wonder Girl Donna Troy broke up, it was for a variety of different reasons. But the thing that kicked it off was Donna Troy walking in on Kyle sketching a topless woman in his apartment and not appreciating his defense of, "But I'm an artist! It's what I do!" Donna came off especially hypocritical because she works as a photographer who often took pictures of the very scantily-clad Starfire for her portfolio. Apparently, if it's a photograph it's art and is all well and good, but if it's drawn it's just smut. | |
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Bender and the Ship's computer have an argument concerning this subject in an episode of Futurama. | |
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Averted matter-of-factly in Fate/Grand Order. Katsuhika Hokusai and his daughter/assistant Ou'i will freely admit that their most famous pieces, such as "The Dream of the Fisherman's Wife", are explicitly pornographic. They'll even offer you personalized works as their current patron (Master). | |
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The Adam Adamant Lives! fic "All in the Best Possible Taste" has Georgie modelling for a photography book (an Actor Allusion to Juliet Harmer appearing in such a book). Simms composes one of his limericks on the subject: | |
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In City Lights, the Tramp sees a nude statue in a storefront window. To avoid looking like he is ogling it on the street, the Tramp takes the pose of an art connoisseur examining it for purely its aesthetic value. | |
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The Partridge Family: In "My Heart Belongs to a Two-Car Garage," a traveling Russian handyman who claims to be a celebrated artist paints a huge, mostly-naked woman on the family's garage, causing an uproar in the neighborhood. In the end, a man from the local art museum sees the painting, declares it a masterpiece, and has the front of the garage transported to the museum. | |
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In Haganai, Sena is caught playing an Bland-Name Product eroge called The Sacred Blackstar. She insists that the game's H-scenes are beautiful and artful, so Yozora makes her read the dialogue of the last scene, some Glad-to-Be-Alive Sex, out loud. Naturally, it turns out to be extremely raunchy, much to Sena's embarrassment. | |
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In a non-canon El Goonish Shive comic, Susan catches Sarah looking at nude photos, but Sarah assures her that it's only for art reference. It actually is. | |
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Boston Legal has a university professor accused of soliciting prostitution under the guise of "research". He had made a video of himself with the prostitute that the prosecution is going to use as evidence. But, taking advantage of the odd American legal rule, his own lawyers argue that he actually was creating pornography and was therefore protected under the First Amendment. If it's porn, it's not prostitution and therefore not a crime! | |
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House of the Dragon: In the third episode scene where Alicent Hightower and her father Otto have a conversation, the walls of the Red Keep behind them show art depicting orgies. | |
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Blackadder In the final season three episode, Edmund mentions (among a few other things he's extorting out of the Prince) the "highly artistic but also highly illegal set of French lithographs". He describes them as a "sack of French porn" about thirty seconds later, so whether they're porn, artistic or they fall into that grey area in the middle is left up to the viewer. From the second series episode "Money", the compromising paintings of The Bishop of Bath & Wells could potentially form the basis of an exhibition of challenging young artists. Also from season three, the actors Kendrick and Mossop claim that The Bloody Murder of the Foul Prince Romero and his Enormously-Bosomed Wife is a philosophical work, and the vastness of the bosom is justified by the text, as is the bloodiness of the murder. |
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Doctor Who. In "Deep Breath", Madame Vastra is supposedly painting her girlfriend Jenny, who's in a low-cut dress and in a pose that displays a fair amount of cleavage. It's then revealed that Vastra is actually working on a pinboard charting the recent cases of Spontaneous Human Combustion. Jenny is not amused and demands to know why she's posing. Vastra lamely tries to excuse it as "art". | |
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Peter Ustinov's character in Topkapi lost his British citizenship for smuggling obscene materials, but he tells everyone that he was just transporting literature that had originally been banned for obscenity, like Ulysses and Lady Chatterley's Lover. | |
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G Idle: "Nxde" is about cultural attitudes around nudity. It argues for the artistic value of nudity and that it should not be seen as obscene, pointing out the Double Standard in attitudes toward "obscene" nudity and "natural" or "artistic" nudity. | |
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Empath: The Luckiest Smurf: In the story "I Dream Of Smurfette", Painter does so many pictures of Smurfette after experiencing "the Smurfette dream", which leads to this conversation with Poet. In the story "Smurfed Behind: The Other Side Of The Mirror", the Mirror Universe versions of Poet and Painter are both arguing about their equally lurid works of art, with Poet telling Painter, "What I smurf is true art. What you smurf all day is what I call por-no-gra-phi-a." |
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Oreimo: Kirino insists that a bishoujo figurine of her favorite series is high art, but Kuroneko replies that art does not need a clothes-off feature. | |
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Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro: Inverted with the Art Club's President, who often paints nude self-portraits, and Senpai insists that it is art. Nagatoro and her friends don't buy it, though. | |
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The Soft Dorothy Software logo seen in Glider and Pararena, an 1889 engraving of a topless fairy, caused problems with shareware distributors (including a ban from Compuserve that was later rescinded). The developer even got "all of two pieces of hate mail" and muses that that's still more eyebrows than the original art probably ever raised in Europe. | |
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In Dumbing of Age, Joyce insists that the explicit Slash Fic she's reading is not porn, but Literature! | |
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Parodied in Casino Royale (1967). The art collection that Le Chiffre is auctioning actually consists of blackmail photographs of VIP's in compromising positions. | |
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Sticky Dilly Buns: The repressed Ruby frequently insists that the yaoi she loves has artistic value. A Print Bonus strip that appeared after the end of the comic’s run shows her recognising that her tastes (and new sideline in calendar publishing) take her very close to porn, but she comes to terms with this. | |
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Dragon Age II has a silly example appear (so to speak) in the Black Emporium — a sculpture of the Chantry's prophet and Bride of The Maker, Andraste, in the nude. This was obviously blasphemous even if no one could articulate why, but it was such a beautiful representation of Her that no one could bring themselves to destroy it, so they got a mage to render it invisible. Now the only way anyone can experience this version of the Maker's Holy Bride is through physical exploration... | |
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Inverted out-of-universe in the DVD commentary of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Once More With Feeling," an episode nominated for an Emmy. The Writer/Director's Commentary literally stated "This is basically... porn," when discussing the lyrics to a certain song. And this happens while the singer is floating in the air on her back and her girlfriend has just disappeared out of frame. |
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The Mermaid: Amelia, the titular mermaid, doesn't understand how humans can think their bodies are obscene when so much of their art depicts naked people, but Levi tells her, "They were Greek and Roman and that was all right for them." | |
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Turgor (known to English-speakers as The Void). Even though you spend a large amount of the game watching nude women seductively posing for you, the majority of critics thought saw it as a serious piece of art, and thought the Fanservice actually served a thematic purpose. It could be that the nudity is just as prominent, or that the gameplay requires patience and careful planning, or just the fact that true art is offensive, incomprehensible, and foreign, but few have accused it of being purely a vehicle for Fanservice. | |
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Family Guy gives us this joke in the first season: | |
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In How I Met Your Mother episode "Home Wreckers", Ted's new stepfather Clint gives Ted a graphic painting of Ted's mother hugging Clint (who is holding a guitar) while both are naked. Narrator!Ted comments, "There was no guitar." | |
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Comes up in a data log in Horizon Zero Dawn. Travis Tate, a scientist with Project Zero Dawn who is shown to have been a Misfit Lab Rat with a love of Heavy Metal and horror movies, attempted to have 265 "acknowledged classics of extreme exploitation cinema" included in the culture archive to be preserved for posterity. Samina Ebadji, the head of the archive project whose tastes leaned far more towards "good taste", permitted only the Pier Paolo Pasolini films on the grounds that, while they were extreme, they were also art — and not coincidentally, they had already been archived for this reason. She very bluntly and angrily rebuffed him on the rest, telling him in no uncertain terms that it'll be a good thing if nobody in the future remembers the Making a Millipede movies or all the Eastern European torture flicks he asked to have included. Funnily enough, she also thanked him for finally providing an objective criteria for obscenity, namely "If Travis Tate submitted it, it's obscene." She even referenced Judge Potter's famous quote "I know it when I see it." | |
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In the 1970s, there was a deliberate movement to create 'Art Porn' films, the most famous of which was The Story of O. | |
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In The Goon Show, Major Bloodnok would regularly be involved in the illegal distribution of "photographs for Art Lovers" which would, at the very least be concealed within a brown paper bag. | |
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In Throw Momma from the Train, Billy Crystal plays a creative writing professor whose students have the barest concept of stringing a sentence together in the first place. During class, they critique a man's work entitled "100 Girls I'd Like to Pork" (literally just a list with accompanying pictures and no story at all) which the "author" declares to be a coffee table book. "This isn't literature!" argues Billy Crystal, to which the guy says something like "Well, it's a fantasy, like Melville, and this is my white whale." Another classmate declares it "very brave." Humorously, in the second-to-last scene when Billy Crystal's character is just about to finish his novel, you can see that same student's book in printed form on the desk. The title was changed and sounds very artistic, and has a colorful, almost mythological in tone cover illustration. You might not even notice it without the passing remark DeVito's character makes, which just makes it even funnier. | |
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One of the most prominent ways pornography can be legalized. Lawyers claimed it's just art where actors simply played people who acted as promiscuous, therefore, it's not de facto prostitution. This argument is way more effective if it really is just art on a paper or some other non-living medium, with no real breathing people involved. (e.g. Ancient Greek vase gay pornography, the demonstration drawings on The Other Wiki, hentai, etc.) | |
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The Ankh-Morpork Fine Art Society -hem, hem-, in Guards! Guards! is, in a similar manner to the page image, dedicated to the painting of the female form, or at least to having an easel in front of you while you look at it. | |
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