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It's Popular, Now It Sucks!

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It's Popular, Now It Sucks!	comment	The hipster's mantra. There's only one thing worse than people not watching your favorite show: people actually watching your favorite show. You'd think that your favorite artist making it big by reaching Stage 5 of the Fandom Life Cycle would be something to celebrate. To certain segments of the fandom, however, a wide fanbase only means that the media in question has "gone commercial" and "sold out." This results in a subsection of both Fan Dumb and Unpleasable Fanbase. Sometimes a valid complaint — fans might call foul when a previously creative artist starts Pandering to the Base or watering down their work to appeal to the Lowest Common Denominator. Fame can also have a bad effect on the artist's attitude — if they don't become a complete egomaniac who treats fans like dirt and turns their back on the scene they became famous in for a newer, more famous crowd, they might become disillusioned by fame. Or they could try to tie themselves in knots to please the Unpleasable Fanbase in such a way that they forefit any residual respect from the fanbase. On a practical level, more popular live shows may require bigger, less intimate venues — shows known for energy and spontaneity may move towards a heavily produced and choreographed live show. Low budget works known for cheesy effects and bizarre plots might switch to a slicker, more commercial style and "safer" plots, while Ensemble Dark Horse characters may be excessively milked and/or Flanderized into shallow parodies of themselves — see also They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. This is usually a side-effect of the Newbie Boom and Gateway Series tropes. If the work or creator suddenly becomes "mainstream" or more popular, there's a chance that the newcomers would have contrasting opinions with the older fans who were there when the fanbase was still "niche". Big fandoms tend to attract Misaimed Fans, and bring along a lot of Fan Dumb. Sometimes these newer fans are rabidly devoted, even starting fights with older fans or people who don't like the work "enough". Sometimes, the newer fans might complain about certain aspects of the work that older fans have already been accustomed to. Tensions also rise when the new fans represent a demographic shift in the fandom. More subjectively, popular fandoms are more likely to be subject to Hype Backlash if reality cannot possibly match the hype. (See also Wolverine Publicity, when a fandom is just plain overexposed.) This attitude can also contribute to Fandom Rivalries if a work becomes popular at the apparent expense of another, as fans of the latter work may become resentful towards fans of the former and blame them for their favored work not receiving the attention and success it deserves. Of course, a lot of the tension is just snobbery — original members of a small fandom feel less special when their exclusive club is open to the masses. Some also seem to believe that artists should work and create art solely for the sake of art, with no consideration for things like paying rent. A variant of that is "It's Popular, so it Sucks" — when people unfairly criticize something on the sole basis that it's popular, mostly because they want to appear "unique" or "edgy". In some ways the inverse of Quality by Popular Vote. Sometimes this perception can be a bit of a fallacy — high profile works are more prone to being picked apart by critics, while small creators are looked on more favorably or even immune to criticism. Compare Periphery Hatedom, who never liked it in the first place. See also Ruined FOREVER, Fandom Life Cycle, and Popularity Cycle. Contrast Complaining About People Not Liking the Show. When musicians hold this opinion for one of their own songs, it's a Black Sheep Hit. Examples
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_10d303a2	comment	And now we have Shin Megami Tensei IV, a 3DS release that, horror of horrors, is not only more accessible to newcomers, but ALSO HAS AN EASY MODE! God help us all.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_12300cc3	comment	Some fans of Watchmen (and possibly Alan Moore himself) began sneering at the thought of someone reading the comic because of the movie. And it happened as the trailers caused the comic to become a top-seller again. Good for the comic, bad for Moore (who doesn't make a cent off of Watchmen due to licensing.)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1331990c	comment	Puella Magi Madoka Magica takes Magical Girl shows and adds a toxic dose of Darker and Edgier. It's also animated by Studio Shaft. Its popularity exploded even while it originally ran in 2011 and only more so after it came out "shafted" on Blu-ray and got story expansions in the form of manga, CDs, and movies - only to create a massive Hatedom that exists on near-exclusively this trope here. The general debate about the anime usually dealt with its overall style, with fans classifying it as a Deconstruction and basically everyone else suggesting otherwise. The popularity of Madoka Magica, along with Psycho-Pass and ufotable's adaption of the Fate/Zero light novels, made Gen Urobuchi a highly recognizable name to otaku. Fans introduced to his works through these three works conflict with his older fans, the latter group states he hasn't made anything good since Saya no Uta (a Urobuchi-written nitro+ visual novel from 2003). At least a small portion of his fanbase feels that these newbies often ignore the writer's pre-2011 works as much as his style. A Vocal Minority of anime/manga fans opposes Urobuchi's works for being dark, expensive, overrated, and popular, with general negative criticism going to both Urobuchi and Madoka. Urobuchi's haters are dismayed when they see any indication of his involvement in any projects, resulting in Hype Backlash. There exists the possibility of a fan quickly growing tired of anything related to his works as a result of discovering information about his popularity boost, but that has occurred less frequently since the Madoka craze ended.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_13491d1e	comment	Against Me! not only got this, but their fans got outright hostile about it. Fans claimed the band sold out when they moved from the tiny No Idea label to Fat Wreck Chords in 2003, to the point where fans slashed the tires of the bands tour van and vandalized it and reportedly poured bleach over their merch table. The bizarre thing is that Fat Wreck Chords was well known for being anti-establishment indie label. Ironically, there was a lot less outcry when the band left FWC for an actual major label, Sire Records, in 2007.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_15a26aad	comment	The first two games in the series, Arena and Daggerfall, were solid games (despite Daggerfall's Obvious Beta issues), but were mere drops in the massive bucket that was the late-90s PC Western RPG scene. Still, they developed a fairly strong Cult Fanbase which kept the series alive and, after a six-year Sequel Gap, led to the release of Morrowind. Morrowind was a massive critical and commercial hit, being the Breakthrough Hit for both the series and for Bethesda in general. Owing to both the sequel gap and its Multi-Platform release (PC and X-Box), Morrowind introduced a massive Newbie Boom, contributing to its success. All of this added up to Morrowind's "Game of the Year" edition still being available in stores even eight years after its release. However, until about 2006, a small but vocal group of older, "hardcore" Elder Scrolls fans derided Morrowind as derivative and dumbed down compared to Daggerfall, which was "True Art" and was granted "Immunity to Criticism", and considered Morrowind to be the symbol of everything that was wrong with the gaming industry. What happened in 2006? Oblivion was released. Despite its own "Game of the Year" level successes and popularity, Oblivion was now the symbol of everything wrong with the gaming industry, while Morrowind became the Sacred Cow. In 2011, when Skyrim came out? Ditto. Rinse and repeat.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_160c1407	comment	Metallica constantly face accusations of selling out, with every release since their debut attracting them for one reason or another, but it reached new heights after their 1991 self-titled album broke them into the mainstream for the next 12 years. The album's shift to a less experimental style resulted in widespread backlash from longtime fans, which continued when they shifted to Hard Rock on their later '90s albums and Nu Metal on St. Anger, which sold well off of name recognition but was so poorly received that it ended their mainstream momentum.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1685d0da	comment	Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later, which is seen as the "sell out" of the series, by some.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_16a43fa1	comment	People debunking them have also a similar mindset, Belgian conspiracy theorist Mark Peeters (known for saying that the moon landings are fake because it is impossible for a ball to get out of the orbit of the earth if thrown from the ground) is well-liked by them because at least he does not follow the common fallacies conspiracy theorists usually make. Justified, as debunking the same conspiracy for the umpteenth time really gets on your nerves.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_181720de	comment	The Artist suddenly got this. Despite winning over 13 Best Picture awards from various critics groups, the Golden Globes, the BAFTA, and the Oscars, plus a 97% Rotten Tomatoes score, the film is now considered as overrated and not the best film of the year by some people.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1adee40d	comment	The World Ends with You parodies this in its bonus chapter. "I'll be off listening to bands you kids have never even heard of! And then... when they go major... I'll be there to complain about how they sold out!"
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1afaadc2	comment	RENT received this treatment with the movie version, as fans of the 3-hour stage musical (many of whom can sing it start to finish from memory) were annoyed that people were now allowed to experience the story in half the time.note Though this wasn't the only complaint; some fans of the musical had more understandable complaints about changes to the characters and the story arc. Never mind that it put the AIDS crisis back in the limelight for a while, after it had been relegated to "that disease that kills African people".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1aff7d8c	comment	Lil Nas X's song "Panini" — the following single after the astronomical breakthrough of "Old Town Road" catapulted into mainstream phenomenon-status — directly addresses this. It's framed not as a clap-back, but rather a frustrated, yet empathetic acknowledgement that several members of his initial underground following abandoned him once he suddenly became rich and famous, even extending an olive branch in the hopes that they'll come around to support him again.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1b386512	comment	Ranma Â½ may get a free pass - if only because it was more comedic and not so much plot-driven like some of her other manga. Likewise, Mermaid Saga sometimes gets a free pass too.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1cc09117	comment	Bleach. There was once a time when it was a niche shonen series, and was only known by people who read scanlations from a popular scanlation site. Back then, any and all feedback were about how frickin' awesome it was, and how it's a shame that it's so obscure and no-named. And then, it got big. It's amazing how many countless people (including the fans who liked it back when it was small) have changed their tone to "I hate Bleach, it sucks because it's popular."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1d698aef	comment	Vampire Knight started as a modest shoujo manga about teenage vampires, until it inexplicably became one of the most popular manga in America. Since then, many fans of modest shoujo avoid it like the plague due to its rampant popularity at the time. Many original fans believed the only reason for its huge popularity in America is because of the film Twilight, even though the Manga and Anime were both out before the first film in the Twilight series was released.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1e46b3e0	comment	Boyfriends.: This seems to be at least part of what sparked the comic's infamy. It was received positively at best and with indifference at worst when it was first posted on Webtoon. After it became a proper featured series and got animated promos, people left and right accused it of sexualizing gay men and being "unrealistic" in its portrayal of relationships.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_1f818da5	comment	Common among certain fans of Channel Awesome. While their concern is mainly with fanwriters focusing too much on the more popular reviewers, they seem to forget that fandom is a hobby and people will write whatever they feel like writing. Especially noteworthy should be Brad Jones. When you read the comments on his own website, every once in a while there is someone who claims he was so much better and funnier before he joined the CA-Crew, and that he should stop making crossovers with the other contributors, because they all suck. Various other members of the site can get this treatment as well. This is true for a butt-load of reviewers, really. But especially regarding AVGN, when even his OWN fans are exceptionally vicious towards him when it comes to almost anything they can imagine. The hilarious thing is, though, that the fanbase itself can't even agree on why he sucks now without contradicting themselves. i.e.: He curses too much, he doesn't curse enough, the videos are too short now, the videos are too long now, he milks the AVGN persona too much, he keeps making things other than AVGN, there's too many poop jokes, there's not as many poop jokes as there used to be. And 99% percent of them are unable to pin down any specific reason why his videos suck now, often within their own lists of criticism, and begging him to "not suck anymore" for exceptionally vague reasons (if reasons are ever listed).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2192aeb3	comment	Fire Emblem: The series got a taste of this when Nintendo of America announced an American release for Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones. Longtime fans raised such a stink about not only the localization changes but claimed the onslaught of newbie fans would muck up the nice cozy little fandom club they'd built for themselves. When Fire Emblem: Awakening came out and received acclaim and commercial success, the reaction from 'hardcore fans' was predictable. They got even angrier when both Robin and Lucina were made playable characters for Super Smash Bros. Non-fans of the series were surprised to see even Fire Emblem fans cry foul when Corrin was announced as one of the DLC characters for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U rather than a character from any other franchise, with a special shout-out going to the Inklings from Splatoon, with many assuming they'd be next due to that franchise's popular debut (they'd be the first fighters announced for the following installment instead). It continues with Fire Emblem Fates, which not only takes pages from Awakening's book but has the new Phoenix Mode and removes weapon durability. Thankfully, some fans are appeased by one of the two paths having gameplay on par with the older games.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_22724a3	comment	Also poor old Syd Barrett, who passed his own fame-tolerance threshold back when they were plugging their first album, leading to him taking permanent refuge in drugs.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2407cefe	comment	For a while, using the Phillips CD-I games as a source for YouTube Poop was frowned upon by the members of the YouChew community for years now, although some people are still able to make some funny videos using them, and in more recent years members of the forum frequently make jokes involving CD-I memes, though in a more post-ironic manner.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_24cecc61	comment	Grand Theft Auto V, mainly the Grand Theft Auto Online mode has gotten hit by this. First seen as an extra mode to play after finishing the main story campaign, online mode surprisingly blew up in popularity over the years because of the different stuff you can do and its strong social features. It got to the point that Rockstar Games saw they had a major hit on their hands and decided to dedicate their time creating and releasing new GTA Online content during the following years in the 2010s, including rereleases of the main game with online bundle packs. This allowed the game to become the most profitable media property of all time in 2018, even when adjusted for inflation and reinforcing the perception that the game is Rated M for Money (though it's not the best-selling media property of all time), though the game has been dethroned by Dungeon Fighter Online as the most profitable media property of all time in the early 2020s. Overtime, people began to question when Rockstar was going to release a new game, as many years went by with only one release, Red Dead Redemption 2. It got worse when it was rumored that GTAVI was already in its final stages of development, but was being held back because of the popularity of GTA Online, and Bully 2 another highly anticapated game being completely neglected. Then in the 2020s, rumors of a big GTA annoucement surfaced, only for it to be revealed that Rockstar was rereleasing GTA V again, only this time for next generation consoles, PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. To say fans were disappointed would be an understatement, especially since GTAV was originally a PS3 and Xbox 360 release, two generations prior.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_254ea077	comment	Paige was extremely popular when she was on WWE NXT, and was given a thunderous ovation when she made her move to the WWE main roster in 2014. Nowadays, she's seen as another example of a dumbed-down and underwhelming Diva, saddled with mediocre matches and badly written angles, and she's today considered a Base-Breaking Character at best and a full-on Scrappy at worst. And that's not even getting into her personal life. Ultimately subverted following her return in late 2017.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2588eeb0	comment	The "cash me outside, how bout dah" girl from Dr. Phil's rise to fame and popularity is despised for even being famous at all for saying some dumb phrase on a show.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2606da01	comment	Animal Crossing saw a huge Newbie Boom as a result of New Horizons coming out during the coronavirus pandemic, offering a relaxing experience during the lockdowns. This has not sat well with some veterans of the series however, who believe that the game was watered-down to appeal to as many people as possible, citing cons such as the repetitive (and often sickeningly sweet) villager dialogue and the lack of features from previous games. Not helping matters is that more people entering the fandom means more drama over things such as turnip prices and the market for items/villagers, which some fans find to be exhausting.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_261c8d3f	comment	The Simpsons: The episode "The Day the Earth Stood Cool" deals with a "cool" new family moving in next door, bringing in lifestyles like breastfeeding, retro fashion and natural substances. Springfield gets overrun by these hipster types and are adopting their lifestyles. When New York Times declares Springfield the "coolest city", all the cool people move out when the town has been "played out".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_278df229	comment	When Superjail! experienced a wave of popularity on sites like deviantART in the hiatus between the first and second seasons, there were a number of fans that cried foul and bemoaned the show becoming popular and no longer their underground favorite, claiming that it would only attract shallow and less intelligent fans who would not appreciate it as True Art. After it had since become prominent enough to gain interviews on the Huffington Post, MTV News, and even earn a Playboy tie-in comic, there are fans that take it as a sign of doom and the creators "selling out". Season 2 experienced an exodus of fans, similar to the My Little Pony example above as it involved a change in format that split the fanbase. While season 3 received less open flamewars and outrage, there are fans that declare themselves only fans of the "true Superjail" (season 1 and pilot) and don't get along well with people who acknowledge the later seasons (this seems to be a particularly large problem with Season 2, to the point where some fans will acknowledge every season EXCEPT 2).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_27e0fc66	comment	Modest Mouse suffered from this after Float On.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_28724fb2	comment	Titanic (1997) at first actually got a decent amount of public and critical acclaim. The backlash set in both after it was clear it was going to make hundreds of millions, becoming the highest-grossing film of all time until Avatar came out, and the loads of Oscar nominations and wins it got. At the same time, it was subject to Hype Backlash by people who consider the film flash over substance; a series of well-done set pieces offset by cardboard cutout characters.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_28757a4a	comment	During the first run of Benthelooney's rant series, Ben had an army of commentators and haters against him but despite that managed to have a cult fanbase and wasn't as well known on YouTube. When the rants returned, and Ben became more popular to the point of having more subscribers and fans (a lot of them are ironically former haters), his older fans for the most part have abandoned his videos and have long unsubscribed to him for the sake of this very trope.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2a43dd91	comment	The Uncharted series has started being hit with this. Drake's Fortune was a moderate hit, but both Among Thieves and Drake's Deception were mega-sellers, garnered tons of media attention, and wound up becoming so successful that Nathan Drake has practically become a mascot for the Playstation, which has naturally started bringing some detractors.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2b727723	comment	Reddit is known for having this attitude toward subs that start off small then become popular, or already popular subs that become Default (not always without reason). Generally speaking, niche subreddits tend to be civil and have smaller amounts of quality content and discussion, which decays when more and more people join. It's commonly cited that around 10,000 subscribers, a sub's quality begins to tank.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2b82b95f	comment	The first season of iCarly was relatively low key, especially in the online fandom. It exploded in popularity in Season 2, and along with an increased emphasis on the Shipping, led many to quit watching.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2ba1d958	comment	The Matrix: The Collector's Edition contains a meta-example. The alternate commentaries in it are explained as existing because every other DVD commentary is always the cast and crew commenting on the development of the film, and a film like theirs deserves commentaries by college philosophers and movie critics instead. The sequels suffered from this because of the first movie's massive popularity. It made such a significant impact on pop culture that practically every action movie made between 1999 and 2003 ripped off its special effects and cinematography (and some movies are still doing it even today!), to the point that the two follow-ups were seen as painfully derivative and unoriginal by the time they finally came out.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2baa7b2e	comment	Moore really hates being popular. "The Killing Joke" was not intended to be canon by him, but DC liked it so much or it was so popular that it was made canon (some Flip-Flop of God at play as Moore has said at other times he always intended the comic to fit within the universe). Some of his fans seem to claim DC is "lazy" for doing so. Other people simply dislike the comic for glorifying and tragedy wanking the Clown Prince of Crime and his layered antagonism with Batman. The fact that Joker has only grown in popularity since then doesnâ€™t help either.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2f203125	comment	Would you believe that Shin Megami Tensei is starting to show signs of this? A lot of it overlaps with Fandom Rivalry between fans of the mainstream-friendly Persona sub-series, and the rest of the series, which is more niche. It doesn't help that some of the newer non-Persona games have started taking more cues from the Persona series in hope of appealing to a larger audience. Persona 3 was well-received, bringing in newcomers to the series and thus making the entire Persona franchise eclipse the popularity of the main series. Which leads to people complaining that Atlus has "sold out", leaning more towards making their games tailored to the mainstream. Complaints like this are tinged with a hint of irony, as the whole reason the Persona spinoff series was created in the first place was to make a MegaTen game that was tailored to the mainstream. These complaints are intensifying with the popularity of Persona 4 and Persona 4 Golden (to the point that Atlus has released multiple genre-bending sequels featuring both the Persona 3 and Persona 4 cast) is similarly getting trashed for proof that Atlus is "selling out". Even more so when Persona 5 joined the two during their 20th anniversary, with tons of promotion for the three of them as well as crossover spinoffs in the vein of Persona 4 (Including their own Dancing All Night games). At first, Fans of the (relatively obscure) Persona 1 and 2 duology hated the "3-4-5" trio for straying too far from the more traditional Megaten gameplay of the former and If (and likewise for 3-4-5 to 1-2), but it's somewhat justified franchise-wise since their games were downplayed in most of the anniversary events and seemed to have a crossover embargo due to the lead writers for them leaving Atlus. Persona 5 deserves special mention, as while P3 and P4 were successful with JRPG fans, P5's social commentary-laden storyline and stylish UI led to it becoming a massive hit with mainstream audiences, including some who otherwise hate all JRPGs on principle. As such, there's a portion of P5's player-base who hasn't touched another game in the series and has no intention to, causing it to get this treatment even from P3 and P4 fans. There is also a frequent amount of conflict from within the P5 player-base when it comes to encountering fans of the game that have yet to even play the game, itself, and only base their experiences with it on fanmade content and material (including that stuff), thanks to the popularity of the game's Social Links reaching a new apex. Joker's inclusion in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is often blamed for triggering this Newbie Boom, accusing it of damaging the game's otherwise positive reception and leading Persona 5 to become a frequent target of Hype Backlash and Hype Aversion. Nocturne also suffers from this, since it's the first main Shin Megami Tensei game to be released outside of Japan and hence more people have played this one than the original two. There is also a mix of Hype Backlash, as many Shin Megami Tensei fans have proclaimed this one of the best games ever while deriding the popularity of other games. The trolling can be a headache. And now we have Shin Megami Tensei IV, a 3DS release that, horror of horrors, is not only more accessible to newcomers, but ALSO HAS AN EASY MODE! God help us all.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2f3aa7ef	comment	Bronies also managed to invert this trope. When Friendship is Magic took off, the fanbase exploded - and immediately started bashing on the previous generations of My Little Pony fans and shows. Fans of G1 My Little Pony love the new show, but if they ever mention that they were fans of the original, they immediately get insulted for liking such a "lame" show (same goes for younger fans who came on board during the G3 era, only even worse).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_2fee008d	comment	Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann was affected by this after receiving Hype Backlash over the fact that Gainax was involved in the project.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_30065ab	comment	Due to Cuphead being most likely to be played by big YouTubers such as Jacksepticeye, expect it to be hit with swaths of accusations by this game's previous fans.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3063264a	comment	Ozzy Osbourne has never really gotten the full treatment of this, but his solo work being more popular and successful than his work with Black Sabbath is often the only basis snobbier fans use to claim the former isn't as good as the latter. He also got some minor claims of this with The Osbournes reality show in the early 2000's, which brought him a whole new generation of fans.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_30940081	comment	Grand Theft Auto V has become quite notorious for this. Virtually anything can get this treatment from the GTA community once it gets too popular, be it a car, gun, mask, shirt, you name it, especially in the multiplayer portion of the game. This especially manifests itself on GTA-related forums, resulting in posts/threads that trash fast supercars as overrated and the like. Hell, even GTA V itself gets flacked on from fans of earlier GTA games. (in particular fans of both Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and the fourth game)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_313c5eb9	comment	Napoleon Dynamite was initially a relatively small-time indie film with limited release. It skyrocketed from cult hit to mainstream success seemingly overnight, and endless merchandising and commercialization of its catchphrases changed a lot of opinions just as quickly.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_353b7af3	comment	Star Trek: Discovery got hit with this because of its strong resemblance to the base-breaking "Kelvin Timeline" Star Trek (2009) films (see the Film folder above for that whole situation), leading to opinions that it was better before; because the series is set a few years prior to Star Trek: The Original Series, many expected/hoped for a similar aesthetic and overall feel, only to take the more modern look and attitude as a sign that the series would just be a giant Retcon that would throw out existing canon in favor of pandering to the Lowest Common Denominator and newbies brought in by the Kelvin films.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3558eaa2	comment	In the Community episode "Conspiracy Theories and Interior Design", when their blanket fort makes the newspapers and inspires similar blanket forts in campuses across the country, Troy and Abed decide it must be destroyed.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3ac36a5c	comment	On the other hand, part of the reason why Transformers: Generation 1 purists hate the movies so much is because of their popularity; they're pissed that more people are familiar with the CGI Transformers starring in big, dumb action movies than their original, detailed cartoon incarnations. (Fans of more widely praised incarnations such as Beast Wars, Transformers: Animated, and Transformers: Prime also react this way if they dislike the movies).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3b34143f	comment	This happened to Harry Potter with the massive turnout for Order of the Phoenix — many "fans" assumed J. K. Rowling could get away with writing absolute crap from then on. However, they didn't so much drop the fandom as stick around to complain about everything, thus proving their worth as True Fans. Happened to a lesser extent with the influx of new fans the film brought, but the fact that most of them read the books anyway reassured the original fanbase somewhat. It has slowly started to happen to one of its characters. Not to the protagonist, Harry Potter himself, as one would guess, but to the Trope Namer of Draco in Leather Pants, Draco Malfoy, to the point that some say that the only reason he is popular is because of the actor who played him.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3be31c4	comment	Some fans were not too pleased when the Modern Warfare franchise was introduced and turned out to be a hit. Possibly aided by the recent changes of Modern Warfare 2 including the lack of dedicated servers in the PC version, the Downloadable Content, and most importantly; the Executive Meddling between Activision and Infinity Ward, leading to many of Infinity Ward's crew defecting to Electronic Arts. Go to a gaming forum (especially one with a lot of PC users) and ask them what the best entry in the series is. Chances are, the answer will be United Offensive or Call of Duty 2. Woe be it to the poor newbie that actually likes the newer games.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3c912cc2	comment	The fanbase has been splintered again since Tales of Vesperia began ditching a lot of the deep characterization and morally grey themes that made the original games so loved in favour of a mainstream Green Aesop and The Power of Friendship themes, which have increased with each passing game. The base is now split between those who prefer this Lighter and Softer approach and those who miss the Crapsaccharine Worlds of the old games. Ironically, Vesperia set itself up to be the darkest in the series with its vigilantism theme but underwent an Unexpected Genre Change halfway through the game.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3defe34c	comment	Discussed in The Nostalgia Critic's editorial "Can Hype Kill a Good Film?", citing the example of The Lord of the Rings above. He brings up the point that, if a work of fiction is less well known, a fan of it can feel a bit more unique for knowing about it and feel a stronger connection with other fans of the same because it's not ingrained in the public consciousness.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3e8c09b9	comment	Attack on Titan began as a humble manga with a cult following, that sometimes suffered from iffy artwork. Over time, it emerged as a Sleeper Hit and with the airing of the anime has become one of the most popular series around. The resulting explosion in the fandom, as well as conflict between anime-only fans and manga fans has resulted in plenty of Hype Backlash and this trope. Levi Ackerman gets a bit hate for his over-hyped state and the fact that he even got his own spin-off manga.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3f3abe9	comment	Rick and Morty after the show skyrocketed around Season 3 plus a series of real-life incidents involving violence in response to a lack of Szechuan sauce saw a marked increase in "ruined", "never liked it anyway" and "Reddit: The show" posts from Internet users on Twitter and 4chan.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3f5f4ea2	comment	Austin Powers is this combined with a bit of Hype Backlash too, as surely you'd be annoyed that EVERYONE was reciting the catchphrases by the time the second movie came out. One small group of people was particularly turned off of it: When the pinball machine came out in 2001, the existing pinball fans at the time, by and large, loathed the Austin Powers movies and were baffled as to how it became so popular (or would rather pretend it was never popular in the first place). Reviews of the pinball machine often cited the theme as a reason why it's bad with no further explanation, under the assumption that you, the reader, must hate the movies too.note There were many other reasons why this pinball machine was bad though: It had poor build quality, disorganized rules, low-resolution art, and cacophonous sound balancing. That being said, pinball, by then, was aimed at a much older audience than the Austin Powers movies.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_3f633fb4	comment	Cracked refers to it in 4 Awful Things We're Now Considering Nerd Behavior or at least the motives and reasons for this mentality.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_41804317	comment	Anpanman suffered hatedom as seen across YouTube videos. It's likely due to the shame from the older adolescent anime fans who want to redirect its popularity among others to other mainstream anime series.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_41b0198a	comment	Very literal example in The Dresden Files: the rituals in the setting's version of the Necronomicon become less powerful the more people know about them. Once the book was published widely, it became entirely mundane.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_41de2454	comment	In Nemi, Nemi declines to sell a record she loves to a customer, out of fear that it will become mainstream.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_42557e1b	comment	Jonny Davy confessed to feeling this way about Job for a Cowboy during the height of their fame. Once the initial rush of what was effectively his high school garage band filling up function halls several states away and blowing up all over MySpace before taking him across the world just a few years after forming had worn off, he began to feel that they had gotten way too big way too fast without really having earned it. Co-headlining with Behemoth and being billed above Hate Eternal with just one album was a particularly big sore spot for him, as he loved both bands and felt that he should have had to pay his dues supporting them. This also led to their collective decision to abandon the deathcore genre; Doom fast became a Black Sheep Hit for them, as none of them particularly liked deathcore and hated that they had blown up because of it, and they all decided that they would rather play death metal and risk losing their status and having to get day jobs than play a genre that they didn't care for just so they could make a living off of their music.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_437a3113	comment	Used in-universe in Phonogram; since the series is about a group of magicians who are not only indie-music snobs, but basically derive their magical power from their indie-music snobbery, there's naturally a lot of this about. A quick read of each issue's crib sheets gives a few hints that the authors of the series might not be entirely free of this mindset either. There's a reasonable amount of self-awareness about it, however, and the Character Development in the first arc essentially revolves around the main character, if not exactly deciding to abandon this mindset, then at least deciding to be a bit less of an insufferable dick about it.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_439a65b3	comment	With John Patrick Shanley, it's Doubt.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_44fe781e	comment	Neon Genesis Evangelion suffered a lot of Hype Backlash from mecha fans over the years, though in a pretty unique example this isn't directed towards the show itself but rather towards the incredibly vocal elitists within the fandom that somehow managed to popularize the incredibly hypocritical opinion that all other mecha shows are nothing but toy commercials, while Evangelion has story (in fact Eva is just as driven economically, if not more than the average for a mecha, by all the models which the fandom eats up like hotcakes)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_45c5a382	comment	In "Pewdiecake", a part of The Chronicles of Steve Stollberg, a fan of the video star Pewdiecake stops liking Pewdiecake due to Pewdiecake becoming extremely popular.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_471fe06b	comment	In the cold open of an episode of Portlandia, a hipster gradually declares each of his hobbies, interests, style elements, etc. to be "OVER!" every time he notices the same particular yuppie partaking of them. By the end, the original hipster has become a yuppie and the original yuppie has become a hipster and the cycle between them begins anew.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_47f0eac3	comment	Metalocalypse: This comes up in the very first episode, "The Curse of Dethklok", when the band plays the "Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle" a reporter asks, "Is Dethklok selling out?" to which Nathan denies and insists that they're just trying to make coffee metal because they want to make everything metal. Parodied in S2 Ep03, "Tributeklok". Dethklok is decried by fans when they refuse to play at a gig they won't make any money off of, and after they do an endorsement for chewing gum, a little boy spits in Nathan's face and calls them sellouts. The band members decide they need to get back in touch with their rock n roll roots which consists of joining their own tribute band and doing nothing that the successful Dethklok would do (not eating fancy food, only using amateur made fliers to advertise their shows, living in poor conditions). However, when they decide to play the gig that they refused to play before, (since it's the opposite of what they would do) the same little boy from earlier calls them sellouts again, saying the real Dethklok would never play it. Deciding it's a no win situation they decide to just go back to being wealthy and successful. Vrunkus trashes his own music as soon as it's complimented by a commercially successful musician:
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_49a88442	comment	Final Fantasy XIV was a commercial failure during 1.0 and it almost ended the game before it went past beta due to numerous problems that the dev team ignored. After a new development team was brought in to replace the former team, the game was redone from the ground up and relaunched with the subtitle A Realm Reborn (2.0). The game had a massive turnaround and became an extremely popular hit among fans, but many players who enjoyed 1.0 denounce the reworked game as selling out to the Lowest Common Denominator due to the game taking elements that made World of Warcraft so popular.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_49ad83ee	comment	Among the many haters of World of Warcraft are people who say that say because it is so popular, that it sucks. (That is, the people who have actually seen more than the box art.) Another large group of haters are people who complain that Blizzard has ruined the game by catering to the casual players, and believe the game was better back when raiding was still "hardcore". This is where it overcrosses with the Nostalgia Filter; since some of these same people were complaining about spending months getting their characters attuned. Typically, it's a very bad financial decision to have a game that locks out a good 75+% of its gamers from content and only cater to that â‰¤25% of the playerbase, since players typically quit when there's nothing for them. (If you're one of the elitists, then that's what you want.) A large proportion of the time some people spend on message boards is taken up by claiming Blizzard's subscription figures are bogus and thus the game is not as popular as it is claimed to be, because xyzabcblahblahblah (insert personal bugbear or whatever here). Well-reasoned legal arguments with copious citations have not stopped this train of thought. The cross-genre reaction to Pandarens. During early years of the game, Pandarens were one of the races most desired as playable by the fans. Two Kung Fu Panda movies later and the announcement of Pandarens has been met with immense ridicule.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4ab17360	comment	There was once a time in which Inuyasha, as well as every Rumiko Takahashi series, had a fanbase that was free to exist in public. But then, they became popular - Immediately, saying you like a Takahashi series nowadays, especially Inuyasha is tantamount to Suicide by Cop.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4c87ebce	comment	In Repo Man, at one point veteran repo man Lite is bragging to Otto about a band: "I was into these dudes before anybody."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4e45b093	comment	It probably doesn't help that movies depicting a nerd as a hero still routinely make use of Hollywood types, tend to have the nerdy hero end up with a girl way out of his league, and often because he rose "above" his nerdiness to attract her. Shows like The Big Bang Theory make heavy use out of the idea that all nerds are socially awkward and want to be accepted by the "in-crowd", when in fact, most nerds are perfectly capable of social interaction and are perfectly happy being nerds.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4f304308	comment	In LEGO DC Super-Villains, an NPC makes this remark about obscure Batman villain Kite-Man:
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4f514657	comment	Charlotte Flair was once one of the "Four Horsewomen", four female wrestlers from WWE's NXT brand credited for helping revitalize women's wrestling. However, as her career made the shift to WWE's main roster, fan opinion of her began to sour, with her being seen as another wrestler who was largely a disappointment to her father's legacy.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4f89d268	comment	This also affects beautiful secluded nature sites and landmarks usually off the beaten path outside of protected lands in the age of social media, "geotagging", selfies, and PokÃ©Stops and Gyms for PokÃ©mon GO. Remote places that were once hidden gems for the adventurous few will become viral bringing in lots of unexpected visitors leading to infrastructure and safety concerns.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_4fc3c258	comment	Donnie Darko, when it suddenly went from being a brilliant-but-weird movie that was buried in obscurity after 9/11, to a massive cult phenomenon that every teenager has seen. Somewhat ironic, in that it mostly became popular via word-of-mouth and Vindicated by Cable.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_50bcf7a6	comment	Homestuck. Act 5, which properly introduced the trolls and their convoluted, bisexual romance led to a gigantic influx of fans, mostly from Tumblr, who mostly obsessed over that aspect of the comic. Some readers—mostly on 4chan—believe that this led to the comic jumping the shark, as the author began to pander to the Tumblr demographic's tastes, leading to things such as increased focus on romantic subplots.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_50e2e357	comment	Star Trek (2009): This Onion News Network video satirises the attitude of a certain type of Star Trek fan towards the 2009 movie.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_546769dd	comment	Slender Man, to quite a few Creepypasta readers who were enamored of (or terrified by) the Humanoid Abomination before the June 26, 2012 release of the game Slender, which caused the character's "mainstream" popularity to skyrocket in a deluge of Let's Play videos and the like.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_57a3683f	comment	Not Always Right has this gem:
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_57ad0c07	comment	The Resident Evil series after the release of Part 4. The style change, while making the series more popular, has caused many fans of the series' original style to feel betrayed, cheated, and forgotten. Some of which are the same fans that, before the release of Resident Evil 4, were complaining that the series had grown repetitive and stagnant.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5921531a	comment	Persona 3 was well-received, bringing in newcomers to the series and thus making the entire Persona franchise eclipse the popularity of the main series. Which leads to people complaining that Atlus has "sold out", leaning more towards making their games tailored to the mainstream. Complaints like this are tinged with a hint of irony, as the whole reason the Persona spinoff series was created in the first place was to make a MegaTen game that was tailored to the mainstream. These complaints are intensifying with the popularity of Persona 4 and Persona 4 Golden (to the point that Atlus has released multiple genre-bending sequels featuring both the Persona 3 and Persona 4 cast) is similarly getting trashed for proof that Atlus is "selling out". Even more so when Persona 5 joined the two during their 20th anniversary, with tons of promotion for the three of them as well as crossover spinoffs in the vein of Persona 4 (Including their own Dancing All Night games). At first, Fans of the (relatively obscure) Persona 1 and 2 duology hated the "3-4-5" trio for straying too far from the more traditional Megaten gameplay of the former and If (and likewise for 3-4-5 to 1-2), but it's somewhat justified franchise-wise since their games were downplayed in most of the anniversary events and seemed to have a crossover embargo due to the lead writers for them leaving Atlus.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5921531c	comment	Persona 5 deserves special mention, as while P3 and P4 were successful with JRPG fans, P5's social commentary-laden storyline and stylish UI led to it becoming a massive hit with mainstream audiences, including some who otherwise hate all JRPGs on principle. As such, there's a portion of P5's player-base who hasn't touched another game in the series and has no intention to, causing it to get this treatment even from P3 and P4 fans. There is also a frequent amount of conflict from within the P5 player-base when it comes to encountering fans of the game that have yet to even play the game, itself, and only base their experiences with it on fanmade content and material (including that stuff), thanks to the popularity of the game's Social Links reaching a new apex. Joker's inclusion in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate is often blamed for triggering this Newbie Boom, accusing it of damaging the game's otherwise positive reception and leading Persona 5 to become a frequent target of Hype Backlash and Hype Aversion.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5afbc0cb	comment	Undertale took off in popularity almost as soon as it launched, making it one of the most popular games of 2015 and also winning the GameFAQs Best Game Ever bracket. A lot of people who don't care for the game or hate it outright are angry that any video featuring the game can rise beyond one million views and they also accuse some people covering/playing the game just to get more hits. Not only is the game popular overall, but it's also very popular within the furry fandom. Because of this, people often view the fanbase as atrocious and full of furries.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5cb1d658	comment	Happened after The Dark Side of the Moon in the minds of some of their fans, who preferred their old psychedelic music over the new harder and darker material. Though in this case, the band themselves felt this way, particularly Roger Waters, who didn't like the larger, noisier audiences that their greater exposure attracted (leading to his infamous, sputum-powered Creator Backlash during the Animals tour).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5ce238b3	comment	The Harlem Shake meme. Most people detest its guts because of how viral it is - the videos are easy to produce, which makes it harder to get people to stop making them. Just look up what Know Your Meme (or any other meme site, really) has to say about it and you'll see what we mean.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5d01a991	comment	Behemoth is given a lot of flak in the Heavy Metal underground for moving from Black Metal to Death Metal and signing with Nuclear Blast
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_5db577ba	comment	After The Dark Knight, Christopher Nolan's next film Inception received a similar treatment. After the initial wave of glowing praise, the film garnered its fair share of detractors. The main reasons given by viewers who dislike the film are one or more of the following: it's too complex, it's not as complex as everyone makes it out to be, it plays with an idea but doesn't develop it, there are (or seem to be) contradictions within the film regarding the "rules" of dreaming and that it attempts to pander to an action film fanbase with its spectacle, slighting fans of serious cyber punk science fiction and psychological thriller films.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_64e03e4b	comment	Every widely known social networking site (Facebook, Myspace, Twitter, etc.) ever. Specifically, for Facebook, the introduction of high school and regional networks was what ruined it FOREVER!
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_65e80f63	comment	Especially in the IWC (Internet Wrestling Community). There were a lot more haters of "Stone Cold" Steve Austin and The Rock when they turned face than when they originally found their footing as "bad guys". (Look at some of the reactions Rock got on rec.sport.pro-wrestling between 1999-2000, for instance!) Granted, the fan favorite versions of both, and others, tended to pick up a bit of "Austin Powers Syndrome" in that their "characters" became catchphrase machines.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_67ce5a04	comment	It continues with Fire Emblem Fates, which not only takes pages from Awakening's book but has the new Phoenix Mode and removes weapon durability. Thankfully, some fans are appeased by one of the two paths having gameplay on par with the older games.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_686cfaba	comment	Journey has gotten a double dose of this trope: Most millennials know this band only through one song, due to unending drunken singalong renditions of "Don't Stop Believin'" and its continual use in movies and TV throughout The 2000s. As a result, the band has entered mainstream pop culture as a Running Gag with a widespread camp status that really has nothing to do with how they present themselves. Any irritated Generation X fan of the band will tell you that Journey was far better off as a just another memorable old school band instead of becoming the National Anthem for drunken happy hour. However... Those irritated Generation X fans forget that Journey was the epitome of the "It's Popular, so it Sucks" variant all through its heyday in The '70s and The '80s, after Journey changed from artsy psychedelic rock to pop rock with their fourth album, Infinity. Critics and rock magazines such as Creem and Rolling Stone despised the band because it was so popular, labelling them as faceless corporate sellouts for decades until Journey was Vindicated by History. Journey themselves often complained about the label in interviews, with lead singer Steve Perry stating "We gotta pay bills, we gotta pay taxes, and we gotta eat. And we enjoy eating as much as anybody", in the band's only interview with Rolling Stone.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6880eb21	comment	A case of It Was Popular, So It Sucks: Georg Philipp Telemann was the most (commercially) successful and highly regarded German composer of his time and in the course of an extremely long and productive life (1681-1767) wrote more music than Johann Sebastian Bach and Georg Friedrich HÃ¤ndel combined. After Bach was rediscovered in the mid-19th century, it became fashionable among musicologists and music-lovers to regard him as the great genius of Baroque Music. Since Bach had not been very successful commercially, it was easy to paint him as a misunderstood and unappreciated master who wrote for eternity while the "shallow" Telemann marketed himself by pandering to the tastes of the uncouth audience and producing notes as if in a factory. It would take over a century, during which other German Baroque composers besides Bach and HÃ¤ndel were rediscovered and reappreciated, for Telemann to (largely) regain his original stature. The ironic thing was that Bach and Telemann admired each othernote (Telemann at Bach's request became godfather to his son Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach, and wrote a sonnet in Bach's honour when he died) and Bach not only copied out by hand entire cantatas written by Telemann, but would also sometimes incorporate Telemann scores into his own works, as was perfectly normal in the 18th century (before copyright laws). And then admirers of Bach like Philipp Spitta and Albert Schweitzer (yes, that Albert Schweitzer) inadvertently used pieces attributed to Bach but actually written by Teleman (as it turned out after musicologists properly took stock of the surviving part of Telemann's huge oeuvre) to "prove" the nigh-infinite superiority of Bach over Telemann.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_68d7b51d	comment	The general consensus on 4chan is that you can tell a meme has run its course when it's mentioned by a news source. Most memes which the general public knows about (Chuck Norris Facts, LOLCats, OVER 9000, Rickrolling, All Your Base) inspire little but groan from the average poster. However, this is somewhat justified, since 1. Memes are jokes, and these people have seen the joke everywhere by this point, and 2. Memes are usually fads, and other media usually only find out about them long after the fad has run its course. The Newbie Boom (whenever it happens) is often called "the cancer that is killing /b/". It has now evolved to where a meme is hated when it reaches more mainstream image sites like Reddit and 9gag. These two sites in particular were very unnoticed by 4chan until their memes began appearing on them. It Got Worse when 9gag began to claim the originator of all memes which led to 4chan leading a series of raids on 9gag. Posting an image from either site will be met with a constant stream of "GTFO" and "Go back to Reddit!" This sentiment was often subject to parody on /b/, by pointing out that the website was never the way people fondly remember it. Standard response to someone asking "Remember when /b/ was good?" is to say "/b/ was never good".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_691be369	comment	For many people, the decline of The X-Files began with its move to Sundays from Fridays and its attempt to be more "accessible" to Fox viewers, many who ignored the fact that a smaller number of people hated the show for being popular before the move happened. For comparison, the fifth season's average viewers (19,800,000) was 600,000 more than that of the preceding fourth season (19,200,000), the latter included its highest rated episode ("Leonard Betts"). Its Nielsen ratings rank declined after the fifth season.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6a4c8f1b	comment	One-Punch Man started out as a webcomic with a decent number of fans, and gradually began growing when it was officially made into a manga, but its popularity truly exploded when it was made into an anime, attracting even several non-fans. However, the large number of people naming it as "best anime of the year" and the limitless amounts of fans who say "Saitama could defeat x" in versus topics has ended up leading to a large amount of haters of the series as well, and this combined with Hype Backlash has made several people now want to skip it altogether.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6ac55ec7	comment	Every edition of Dungeons & Dragons ever, save the first. Possibly the original edition as well, as compared to Chainmail. This is noted in the famous Jargon File:
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6bbde1c8	comment	Overwatch quickly shot up in popularity only to suffer massive Hype Backlash. At launch, the game was widely praised for its fun gameplay that casual and pro gamers alike can enjoy, charming cast of well-designed characters and surprising good lore, which Blizzard fully backed with high quality animated shorts films. Besides the critical and commercial success, the game also got its own Esports league and won many Game Of The Year awards in 2016, the year the game was released. However, starting in 2017, the game received a massive backlash for several reasons. Given how Overwatch became the most popular Hero Shooter, many games in the genre had to fight accusations of being clones of Blizzard's title. Many hero shooters released after Overwatch like Battleborn and LawBreakers flopped partially because of unfavorable comparisons to Overwatch. Even Apex Legends, a battle royale game with an edgier art direction and gameplay inspired by PUBG, is pitted against Overwatch just for having a colorful cast of characters. For many, Overwatch's popularity and status as the genre standard has created an environment where it becomes impossible for hero shooters to stand out and be judged on their own merits. Then there's its hated loot box system in which players are incentivized to pay actual money to open boxes in hopes of getting cosmetics through a randomized system. While the system garnered complaints in the beginning, it didn't take until much later for the system to become more common in the gaming industry. Many people blame the game for popularizing and normalizing a gameplay mechanic that some have likened to gambling. Support and Tank heroes are generally hated because of their competitiveness that lead to high pickrates at the expense of other heroes. The biggest offender would be Brigitte who shot up in popularity in casual and competitive play thanks to her durable shield and healing abilities. However, Brigette was so powerful that most teams were forced to use her to stand any chance of winning, resulting in a stale meta centered around Tank and Support heroes that wasn't as fun to play or watch. The gameâ€™s lore also began stagnating which fans attributed to Blizzards compulsion to add new chapters and threads at the expense of developing present ones to the point many players opted to ignore it altogether based on how slow it moved and how little of it was actually in the game proper. Whilst the announcement of a PvE mode for Overwatch 2 promises to rectify the issue, time will tell if it reignites interest.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6d31710b	comment	CM Punk was a Smart Mark darling on the independent scene, with the fans hailing him as quite possibly the best wrestler in America (or at the very least, the best wrestler in Ring of Honor, which is kind of synonymous these days). Then he signed with WWE, and became the centerpiece of its ECW revival, and now all of a sudden you can't go into a wrestling forum without hearing about how Punk is overrated and a sloppy wrestler. Some of this might be spillover anger from the ECW revival being mishandled; but Punk was one of the few bright spots of the show, and yet he seems to get the most criticism. Now that he's moved away from ECW onto Raw and then Smackdown and become world champ, the criticisms have only gotten worse. Partially due to Hype Backlash — a lot of Smart Marks kept hearing how great Punk was from ROHbots when he was working long main event matches, against top level opponents, with free reign over his gimmick and promos. Five minute extended squashes over Justin Credible didn't quite match up... Now that CM Punk has turned into a crazy cult-leader Heel, he's won over a lot of his former detractors. And from there, we had the 2011 'Pipe Bombs' and suddenly Punk is back to being among the smarks, as he so proudly declares, the BEST IN THE WORLD.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_6d5d0e13	comment	A lot of Disney movies from the animated canon get this effect; while some of the most obscure and less popular movies (such as Treasure Planet) are praised wildly, Disney's most popular films suddenly get bashed for their unevenness and plot issues. One of these successful Disney films, Frozen, has been subjected to this trope. The movie gets this treatment hard from the young male demographic. Quite a few males enjoy the movie anyway, or at least parts of it.note Elsa is a huge Testosterone Brigade magnet, and Kristoff, Olaf, and other characters were made to appeal to them (and younger boys) directly. However, you're also likely to find men who originally ignored Frozen due to it just being another good-quality Disney princess movie that's not really for them, but began to resent it as it became the colossal juggernaut of a success that it is now. It has Wolverine Publicity and this is especially true of the hit song "Let It Go". And after Big Hero 6 came out in November 2014, fans noticed Frozen was hogging the movie fame spotlight. Many people in general feel that the mass exposure of the Frozen franchise overshadows other Disney films that they believe are better.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_701f0ece	comment	Berserk strangely is a more complicated and actually sympathetic case of this. Originally the series was nichest of niche mangas being fairly well known in Japan but much less popular in the west barring the 1997 anime (which aired before many Gen Z anime fans were even born). The Berserk series however managed to turn into a Sleeper Hit thanks to getting more coverage with the Berserk: The Golden Age Arc films, several video games, an infamous 2016 anime and Guts showing up in the popular YouTube series DEATH BATTLE! Not to mention the critically acclaimed Dark Souls series openly drawing influence from it. This well deserved newfound popularity nevertheless generated immense Newbie Boom with newer fans dragging Berserk and its very dark material into the mainstream eye â€” which as you can imagine wasnâ€™t particularly pleasant for those quite sensitive to its often extremely disturbing content (everything from rape, paedophilia to unborn babies getting mutated by demon seed) and while the manga still has great beauty and nuance to it, that softer appeal was drowned out by the amount of fans glorifying the violence and stomach churning elements of it. Itâ€™s no surprise that certain people are simply just turned off by it and bash the series as seemingly grotesque and edgy spectacle. Since the author Kentaro Miuraâ€™s tragic passing however the negativity towards Berserk has drastically lessened with far more people declaring it a masterpiece of art and storytelling, despite obviously not being a story for everyone.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_72262aee	comment	Avatar: The Last Airbender got this treatment after it skyrocketed in popularity during its second and third seasons. The live action movie certainly doesn't help matters though this was downplayed by the latter being critically panned. The Shows Newbie boom around the New 10s certainly helped to tone it down.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_72308d	comment	Goo Goo Dolls. After their album A Boy Named Goo, they drastically changed their sound from high-tempo rock/punk to the mellower soft rock they're famous for today after the success of their single Name. It's a good thing they didn't go with the original planned name for the band, The Sex Maggots. Word of God says they were going to do this anyway, because they were tired of being labeled as ripoffs of The Replacements.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7257afca	comment	In Sword Art Online Abridged, Kuradeel is a Laughing Coffin fanboy who is outraged that they took Kirito's advice to rebrand themselves from Bible-quoting serial killers to more professional assassins with an "ad campaign, PR blast, get your faces out there!" Which incidentally led to the group's downfall, since their idea to drum up more business involved sending out a mass-mailed message with directions to their hideout.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_746814ae	comment	Arthur's It's Only Rock and Roll special, Francine has this opinion on the Backstreet Boys, that they're only in it for the money and not for the art, (not to mention Muffy's fangirling), which she sticks to for the whole special. Later, she argues with her band U-Stink for making a television appearance and quits because she accused them of selling out. She is then replaced with a drum machine.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_74f7210c	comment	The Legend of Zelda is particularly infamous for this on GameFAQs. If any Zelda character (especially Link), or any Zelda game, or any Zelda thing is in a popularity contest of some kind, it's bound to sweep the competition, making most such contests extremely predictable and repetitive, especially to fans who prefer other game franchises. Zelda has a similar dominating presence on Dorkly, a geek humor website. This leads to bizarre results in their popularity polls such as Midnanote a Fairy Companion in one Zelda game being ranked higher than any character from Kirby and PokÃ©mon, Epona being voted the greatest gaming sidekick of all time, and The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass being voted the second-greatest Nintendo DS game of all time despite being considered a lackluster Zelda game, and causes corresponding Hype Backlash.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_755fadab	comment	Some fans of the Haruhi Suzumiya Light Novels did not take it kindly when their semi-obscure books were gonna be adapted into an anime and bring in new fans who never even heard of the books. Some of those fans also got pissed when it became a surprise hit and a Cash-Cow Franchise.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7579423f	comment	A large minority of the fans who post on 4chan now refuse to call themselves 'Bronies', due to what they see as a subversion of the term caused "embarrassing people" joining the fandom; more specifically, furries and Banjo-Kazooie fans that gave the Banjo-Kazooie fandom such a bad reputation. It's also generally claimed that many fans have "jumped on the bandwagon" and that when Friendship is Magic is eventually over, most people will jump on another bandwagon, most of the remainder will eventually let it fizzle out and only the people who have made it so important to their lives that they can't let go will carry the torch. The fandom entered its cooldown stage in early 2016, shortly after the release of Undertale which drew a massive fandom of its own, and indeed, many of the fans that simply jumped on the bandwagon did jump off. But the fandom remained quite consistent up until the end of the show in 2019, and generally appears to be continuing to chug along. Many are sticking around to see if Generation 5 turns out good, but it's generally agreed nothing will ever match the initial surge in popularity the fandom had in Gen 4.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_762df2bc	comment	The cross-genre reaction to Pandarens. During early years of the game, Pandarens were one of the races most desired as playable by the fans. Two Kung Fu Panda movies later and the announcement of Pandarens has been met with immense ridicule.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_763704be	comment	Evan Bourne, formerly known as Matt Sydal. Hell, just calling him by his WWE name is enough to set off indy wrestling purists in some communities. At the start of 2010, Evan Bourne was a jobber getting squashed by Sheamus most weeks. Many fans were complaining about how unfair this was to him. In the middle of the year he got a bit of a push by main eventing Raw and working great matches with Chris Jericho. Suddenly cue large amounts of threads bashing him for not looking old enough or some even complaining about how weak his kicks were. Oh boy.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7832b74c	comment	Steven Universe hit this somewhere in the latter half of Season 4 with the uprising of SU Critical on tumblr, to the point where some people join the fanbase just to bash the show. The Zamii Incident did not help matters for the fanbase either.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_78d38339	comment	The sequels suffered from this because of the first movie's massive popularity. It made such a significant impact on pop culture that practically every action movie made between 1999 and 2003 ripped off its special effects and cinematography (and some movies are still doing it even today!), to the point that the two follow-ups were seen as painfully derivative and unoriginal by the time they finally came out.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_78eab5f8	comment	Indie Pete of Diesel Sweeties is the extreme version of this trope — indeed, he goes so far as to that he only liked bands "before they released any music". Playing on this theme, Richard Stevens also released a t-shirt design using a Venn diagram. On the left: "Music I Like". On the right: "Music You Like". In the overlap: "Music I Used To Like."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_792239e5	comment	Tales of Symphonia is starting to get this treatment. Word of mouth (plus high exposure due to being a huge RPG on the RPG-starved Gamecube) led to it being a big seller and award-winner, and for the first time a lot of gamers outside of Japan started looking into the series. Fast-forward six or seven years and now the Tales Series has a lot of embittered older fans who are mad that the newer games in the series are bigger sellers and more popular than the pre-Symphonia cult classics that were the early games. And it's all blamed on Symphonia's breakout popularity.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7988cb68	comment	Many RPG fans don't seem too pleased that the Mass Effect series has become a hit, especially since they went towards a different game style than the "traditional" RPG. In-Universe, Shepard attracts Morinth by invoking the trope, saying, "If you've heard of it, it's already too mainstream for me."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7b039953	comment	When Avatar came out, it had a skyrocket of public acclaim and defining the standard of the 3-D Movie, with many proclaiming 'Oh man, Avatar was awesome!', only for about a few months later when it became the highest-grossing film of all time, a huge hatedom came out and proclaimed it as one of the worst films of all time while quite a few of its fandom changed their mind and stated 'Yeah, it's just Pocahontas in space'. Conversely, The Hurt Locker; which was directed by Cameron's ex-wife Kathryn Bigelow, was Left for Dead as a box office flop until somehow, it came out of nowhere around awards time to huge critical acclaim, with many proclaiming, 'Avatar is Lame. This is Best Picture right here'. Its momentum would be enough to upset and punch out Avatar at the Oscars and the BAFTAs, including the Best Picture award for both (and making it the lowest-grossing film of all time to win Best Picture), leaving Avatar to only beat Hurt Locker in the Golden Globes. For extra irony, in the wake of Avatar becoming the new highest grossing movie, it actually started to become trendy to like Titanic again. The one thing everyone agrees on with Avatar though - the visuals are incredible.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7e85ca16	comment	Final Fantasy VIII also got this treatment. With crossovers such as Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia, Part 8 has grown more in popularity, and just as soon as it did, the sudden hatedom with it. Possibly justified in that Final Fantasy VIII was a very polarizing game even back in its prime, with many praising it and many others considering it the worst in the series.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7ec0cdab	comment	This seems to be happening to The Mighty Boosh. Many original fans have complained the latest series is too mainstream and lacking in invention. Whether there's been an actual drop in quality is debatable.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7fc78282	comment	A lot of long-time book fans of The Lord of the Rings were unhappy with the caliber of fans introduced to LotR by the movie trilogy. Many "old-school" fans consider the movie lovers shallow and frivolous, especially if said movie lovers were subsequently turned on to the books by the movies. In one way at least it was quite relevant that older fans of the books hated the success of the movies- it made buying replacements for your now venerable and worn copies extraordinarily expensive. The books went from being $10~$15 each ($35 for the set including The Hobbit) to $20~30 PER BOOK. As with most major movie merchandising, every older print of the book suddenly disappeared, only to be replaced with new editions with oversized, tie-in covers....and that's only the LotR books themselves. Tolkien's books had always had a great deal of secondary literature (books about the books), even a few written by J.R.R. or Christopher Tolkien, but after the movies came out? Merchandising mayhem.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_7ff19f3e	comment	Cries of "sell out" were also heard in the previous decade, once they signed with a major label and released Dookie — which committed the extra sin of selling 10 million copies in the US alone!
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_805343cd	comment	Despicable Me: The Minions. Poor guys got hit by this like a truck by the time the prequel took off.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_812165e3	comment	Tropico 4: General Rodriguez apparently has this view on art.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8125b468	comment	Batman: Fortunate Son. One of the main characters was a famous musician who applied this trope to himself, feeling that his fame prevented him from keeping it "real". This didn't work too well
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_840a1985	comment	Space Channel 5 has been getting this treatment ever since the announcement of the HD port of Part 2. Most of the Internet has cried about Part 1 not coming out, even though Part 1 couldn't be released due to pre-rendered backgrounds and STILL look nice.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_87b55b5d	comment	The Onion satirizes this trope with the article "Band Dreams of One Day Becoming Popular Enough to Alienate Early Fans."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8b81d307	comment	Among Us saw a massive increase in popularity in 2020 and, as a result, gathered more players. Because of this, many fans say the game was a lot more enjoyable before it got popular due to factors in public lobbies like hackers, whistleblowers who tell their friends/siblings who the impostor is outside the game, people calling emergency meetings for frivolous reasons (such as trying to be funny or to plug their social media) and gullible players who believe one-sided claims with little to no evidence.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8ba4613a	comment	Death Note fans are not too thrilled about their series being dubbed, not so much out of fear of the dub's alterations (as there are very few) as fear that the series will be ruined by an influx of people who watch [adult swim]. Dub argument aside, Death Note in general has fallen victim to this. Back when it was new, Death Note was the greatest series in years, all the cool kids liked it, and making references to Death Note was the best way to flaunt your otaku elitism. Then the anime came along and Death Note became super-popular, and so now the trendy thing among the otaku elite is bashing it and making fun of all the stupid Death Note fanspawn. It doesn't help that the second segment of The Simpsons episode "Treehouse of Horror XXXIII" is a Death Note parody, right down to it being Animesque.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8c2f925c	comment	Weregeek mentioned goth community being split on the whole "now-popular vampires" issue, comparing it to hipsters.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8d7f29ec	comment	Glee times a million. To be fair, the back nine episodes are quite uneven, but plenty of people were hating on it before the season even officially started because the pilot was shown at the beginning of the summer of 2009, kicking off an extremely aggressive and relentless ad campaign by Fox (the most amusing facet of which was when they came up with the term "Gleeks" and then tried to pretend that hardcore fans had christened themselves that).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_8fc7d65f	comment	Baauer: While the artist himself managed to escape this, his song "Harlem Shake" received sizable backlash once Filthy Frank turned it into a popular internet meme, with many growing weary of the meme's overexposure during the peak of its popularity and turning against the song itself as a result.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9068877a	comment	Red vs. Blue mocked this trope in a PSA about "Ten Things We've Never Seen Posted on an Internet Forum". The first being someone that liked a band before they were popular and being happy about it.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_943b8e1	comment	It is highly recommended you never tell a hardcore Osomatsu-kun fan that you started because of Osomatsu-san if you truly value your safety.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_95a8c491	comment	In Sym-Bionic Titan, Lance joins a band, then gets kicked off after his appearances draw a huge crowd.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_960062b7	comment	My Hero Academia is another flagship Shōnen series that gained its fame starting in the middle of The New '10s, and being claimed as among the best anime series of that decade that gets more popular with each passing season. So it was only a matter of time before the series would suffer Hype Backlash due to its popularity and prominence. On a character-related note, this is how some fans (and especially his haters) feel about Katsuki Bakugo. It's gotten to the point that they dislike him not because he is a Jerkass, but because of annoyance and fatigue over him continuously winning first place in the popularity polls at the expense of characters they personally prefer.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9ad7adc8	comment	The Who. The band was always popular, but when they became international sensations with the release of Tommy, fans of their earlier work thought they were becoming too popular. Not helped by the use of their songs in CSI.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9d34190a	comment	The Elder Scrolls: The series has its own twist on the First Installment Wins trope that comes into play here, as well. Bethesda has a propensity for building each new game in the series from the ground up, so most players end up comparing every new game to whichever game in the series they played first, their own personal version of "first installment wins". And given that each new game in the series tends to exponentially increase in popularity (for better or worse) over previous games, it naturally matches up with this trope as well. Broken Base tends to ensue, with fans of the previous installments declaring the newest installment to be inferior. The first two games in the series, Arena and Daggerfall, were solid games (despite Daggerfall's Obvious Beta issues), but were mere drops in the massive bucket that was the late-90s PC Western RPG scene. Still, they developed a fairly strong Cult Fanbase which kept the series alive and, after a six-year Sequel Gap, led to the release of Morrowind. Morrowind was a massive critical and commercial hit, being the Breakthrough Hit for both the series and for Bethesda in general. Owing to both the sequel gap and its Multi-Platform release (PC and X-Box), Morrowind introduced a massive Newbie Boom, contributing to its success. All of this added up to Morrowind's "Game of the Year" edition still being available in stores even eight years after its release. However, until about 2006, a small but vocal group of older, "hardcore" Elder Scrolls fans derided Morrowind as derivative and dumbed down compared to Daggerfall, which was "True Art" and was granted "Immunity to Criticism", and considered Morrowind to be the symbol of everything that was wrong with the gaming industry. What happened in 2006? Oblivion was released. Despite its own "Game of the Year" level successes and popularity, Oblivion was now the symbol of everything wrong with the gaming industry, while Morrowind became the Sacred Cow. In 2011, when Skyrim came out? Ditto. Rinse and repeat. Another angle to the situation for the series is that there seems to be a loose "odd-even" configuration to the fandom. It's not uncommon to find fans of both Daggerfall (The 2nd ES game) and Oblivion (the 4th), who enjoy that those games are closer to classic High Fantasy while disliking Morrowind (the 3rd) and Skyrim (the 5th) for being too "alien". Meanwhile, fans of these odd-numbered titles favor them over the even-numbered titles for the exact same reason. Yet another angle to the debate is the perception that the series has been getting "dumbed down" as it has grown more popular. Ask a fan, and they'll tell you that their favorite game was the one that struck the right balance of openness and accessibility. For example, Daggerfall has a gigantic world map, roughly 161,600 km in size (similar to the size of Great Britain), while every subsequent game has gone with a much, much smaller world map. However, these games use Space Compression and drop most of the random and procedural generation that Daggerfall used to fill out its huge world, instead greatly increasing content density and variety within the smaller worlds. Other changes of the course of the series include: armors and outfits becoming less and less modular and customizable, spells and enchantments dwindling in numbers and variety, abandonment of mechanics like birthsigns (which granted passive bonuses and railroaded the status growths into a class archetype).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9d47a2a2	comment	Fans of A Song of Ice and Fire tend to have some disdain for readers who only started reading once the TV series Game of Thrones became popular. But that's nothing compared to the dismissive attitude they have toward fans of the TV show that have yet to read the books. They refer to them as "Unsullied" and speak of them the way you'd speak of particularly immature children.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9da908aa	comment	Yellowjackets - in 1996, teen Kevyn Tan has soured on Nirvana now that they've "gone mainstream." He liked them better when he felt like it was just him and Natalie listening to them.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9e2f90f4	comment	Even the most popular manga, One Piece, has fallen subject to this. It is the best selling manga in history and the third best selling comic book of all times. It's also been consistently popular all over the world for almost two decades. Naturally, some people are taken aback by this popularity and consider the series overrated. Character examples include Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Ace and Law. Once upon a time these characters were obscure compared to their Shōnen forebears like Goku and co but now theyâ€™re much more popular and that comes with a lot of dislike and accusations of over-hype. Zoro in particular has a massive fanbase that are sadly known for considerable toxicity which inevitably leads to people in and out of the community disliking the swordsman for it.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9f89a5f0	comment	PokÃ©mon, being one of the most popular media franchises of all time, was inevitably going to get hit with this. It got especially bad with PokÃ©mon Sword and Shield, due to removing certain features, and the move from dedicated handheld systems to the Nintendo Switch, which led to increased expectations and tons of complaints, both justified and nitpicky, and replies of "it's the biggest media franchise" to any attempt at defending the games despite those issues. According to the complainers, since the franchise is so big, Game Freak should have no excuse for cheaping out and not giving it their all, yet at the same time, due to their massive popularity, they don't need to put in too much effort to succeed, since brand recognition alone guarantees that they'll get a best-seller.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_9f9a8a57	comment	Watain. The Black Metal community is notorious for its elitism towards bands that achieve even the slightest amount of mainstream recognition. So it goes without saying that when the band received a Swedish Grammi for Lawless Darkness, the fandom went berserk. Interestingly, there are some who accuse them of always having sucked, and being little more than knockoffs of Dissection and Mayhem.note Never mind that Mayhem have received a quite a bit of critical acclaim amongst the fandom as well, in no small part due to the controversy they brought on themselves in The '90s.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a15e269a	comment	A Christmas Story suffers this, largely due to over-exposure from the 24-hour marathon of the movie that's run every year at or around Christmas.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a22bb6ad	comment	This happened with John Cena. Hell back in 2003 when he faced Brock Lesnar for the belt at Backlash, the majority of fans wanted him to win the title. Nowadays any IWC fan wanting Cena to win a title is almost unheard of. The main reason he's hated is because he's got a large kid fanbase.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a485ad0f	comment	This is true for a butt-load of reviewers, really. But especially regarding AVGN, when even his OWN fans are exceptionally vicious towards him when it comes to almost anything they can imagine. The hilarious thing is, though, that the fanbase itself can't even agree on why he sucks now without contradicting themselves. i.e.: He curses too much, he doesn't curse enough, the videos are too short now, the videos are too long now, he milks the AVGN persona too much, he keeps making things other than AVGN, there's too many poop jokes, there's not as many poop jokes as there used to be. And 99% percent of them are unable to pin down any specific reason why his videos suck now, often within their own lists of criticism, and begging him to "not suck anymore" for exceptionally vague reasons (if reasons are ever listed).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a54eef52	comment	Many fans of Hetalia: Axis Powers were displeased by the influx of new fans brought by the successful anime adaptation. (Funnily enough most of them started complaining when the fandom was already huge.)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a6543322	comment	Touhou Project has been getting this treatment since the PC games came out. Many question how such a simple shooter series became so unbelievably-popular, or take issue with how many fans of the series have never played one of the official games. When a news program highlighted a fan-made Touhou video, never mind that Touhou wasn't even mentioned (and in fact, the newspeople probably didn't even know that Touhou existed), find a clip of that on YouTube and see how many people are complaining that Touhou is mainstream now, and thus "ruined".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a7a70d07	comment	Shanley had also written Moonstruck and We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story. The film adaptation of Doubt was directed by him.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a81325d3	comment	Many RPG fans just plain hate Final Fantasy because their preferred series isn't selling as much. This inevitably leads to people like this complaining that the popularity of Final Fantasy is crowding out "better" games. Interestingly enough; this complaint is only lobbed at Final Fantasy games; and occasionally Halo; when any look through a gaming magazine can point out how many other games with big publishers or developers receive just as much advertising if not more than every game that Square Enix and Bungie make. (Dragon Quest IX only got such a budget because Nintendo published it outside of Japan.)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_a9c41d37	comment	Early fans of Internet memes can be some of the most vitriolic out there. Dolan hipsters laud even the pre-"gooby pls" days, when the meme looked nothing like its current self and was all in Finnish. Doge hipsters swear allegiance to the "Daily Doge" blog from 2012, before the now-well-known "shibe" face and the associated captions ("wow", "so", "such", etc.) had become standardized.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ab2a760	comment	Five Nights at Freddy's got this when the success of the franchise took off in such a way that the creator behind it, a lone indie developer previously known for making failed games, decided to make three sequels within the span of one year. The hate eventually reached a point where said developer eventually addressed this mentality◊ and how shallow it is compared to people who have legitimate complaints about his games.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ab3076a5	comment	Mentioned in VG Cats #269 concerning the complete and total assha- er, "hardcore gamers".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ab67d84	comment	Ctrl+Alt+Del. Would it be anywhere near as hated if it wasn't so darn popular?
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ac4b6a62	comment	Questionable Content discusses this as it relates to Indie bands, resulting in the Theory of Hipster Relativity. And as it relates to tattoos. At least Dora recognizes when she gets caught in it. Mentioned for a laugh in #653, concerning Coffee of Doom itself.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ad4d7d6a	comment	Considering that Your Name got so radically huge popularity, and that even its author began to blame film fans for an "unhealthy obsession" and complain about his overestimation, it is not surprising that gradually the film began to receive such a reaction even from fans of Shinkai.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b0028436	comment	JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is a rather infamous, Western-only example of this. Prior to the Animated Adaptation of Phantom Blood, the franchise was relatively unknown to the United States outside of those who learned of it through any combination of the first print run of the Stardust Crusaders manga, a Capcom fighting game and a couple OVAs also of Stardust Crusaders, English Scanlations of the manga, and memes that have spawned from all of this material. The anime series by David Production in The New '10s caused an intense Newbie Boom for the franchise in the United States that has only gotten bigger and bigger as each part is adapted. This has finally allowed JoJo to be fully-known as a flagship Shōnen franchise in the country, but that also means that it has become another target of ridicule and Hype Backlash that shonen series are known to get. The combination of a Broken Base that usually consists of fans that came before the anime series and hates anyone that didn't or doesn't learn about the franchise through its manga versus the fans that came after the anime premiered, the fanbase having an aggressive and often one-sided Fandom Rivalry with any other modern shonen that may have also suffered from this trope (such as My Hero Academia, and Attack on Titan), and the overuse and overexposure of the series' memes (most notoriously, claiming that something that very barely or vaguely resembles something from the franchise is a deliberate "JoJo Reference, or making the same claim about things (especially songs) that were Referenced by... JoJo itself") has made onlookers weary of wanting to get into JoJo, and having some fans regret ever enjoying the series out of fear of being compared to either the older, more entitled part of the fandom, or the younger, more naive fans that came from the Newbie Boom. Some Western fans are even wishing that the franchise remained relatively-obscure in the West as it was prior to The New '10s just to avoid being accused of this trope.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b31b332f	comment	For some fans, including "What I've Done" and "New Divide" were featured in the Michael Bay-directed Transformers movies is what sold the band out. This is an especially bad instance of this phenomenon because Linkin Park was plenty popular before that happened, with Hybrid Theory and Meteora having achieved widespread success, yet this trope was not in force for those albums. For other fans, it was the fact that Stephenie Meyer included "Leave Out All the Rest" to the soundtrack of one of her movies, which led to Twilight Fans entering the already divided fanbase and caused a new divide.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b3708737	comment	Inverted with TRON, which received a Colbert Bump due to Kingdom Hearts II. The TRON fandom was actually quite accepting of the newcomers.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b3f687d1	comment	Fictional uber-geek Jason Fox in FoxTrot once worried about the highly positive public reception of The Lord of the Rings. Although he is only concerned that enjoying Tolkien's trilogy will make it (gasp!) mainstream to be a nerd, therefore depriving people like himself of their "special" status. A very early story arc had him upset when his mom bought him a Batman lunchbox, because the movie had already been out for a few months and he didn't want to be seen as a bandwagon-jumper.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b611aafc	comment	AC/DC has managed to avoid this for the most part, but there is still a portion of the fandom that believes the band was better before Brian Johnson replaced the deceased Bon Scott on vocals, simply because of the massive success of Back in Black (still the second best selling album of all time to this day) which was the first album to feature Johnson.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b616ddbb	comment	KoRn makes an example of this trope in their song, "Y'all Wanna Single."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b6221dc7	comment	After the release of AM (which bought a massive amount of new fans), many people accused the band of becoming "Americanized" due to their slick haircuts, suits and stage presence, which they feel is a betrayal of their original image of humble, shy teenagers. The band themselves were overwhelmed by their newfound popularity, to the point where it factored into their decision to take a five year break before completely abandoning their old sound in favor of lounge music on Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b692113b	comment	At the start of 2010, Evan Bourne was a jobber getting squashed by Sheamus most weeks. Many fans were complaining about how unfair this was to him. In the middle of the year he got a bit of a push by main eventing Raw and working great matches with Chris Jericho. Suddenly cue large amounts of threads bashing him for not looking old enough or some even complaining about how weak his kicks were. Oh boy.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b79f573d	comment	Naruto has fallen subject to this due to it being one of the best selling manga in history, and the anime series is probably the most popular and well-known in the world. The series has been consistently popular all over the world for almost two decades, having multiple video games, merchandise and movies. Naturally, some people are taken aback by the show's popularity and call the series overrated. Not to mention the rather toxic fanbase (despite not being as bad as the Dragon Ball fanbase) having tons of fights with each other and other anime fanbases, and the fanbase having tons of little kids due to the series popularity. On a character-related note, like Bakugo, this is how some fans and haters feel about Sasuke Uchiha, for similar reasons to Bakugo.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_b8ca2204	comment	Justified for dog breeds (or pets in general, if animals such as rabbits or rodents are to be taken into account). As demand increases, breeding increases which leads to more inbreeding and genetic problems also leads to less responsible breeding and puppy mills. One widely-publicised example was when the 1996 live-action remake of 101 Dalmatians and its sequel was released. Children begged their parents to buy them a "spotty dog" after seeing them in the films, not knowing how much of a pain in the ass a Dalmatian would be in the hands of an inexperienced owner, leading to protests by animal rights groups over the unwanted attention the films brought to the breed. Similar concerns about well-meaning owners joining in on "pet fads" and eventually abandoning them may have led Phineas and Ferb series creators Dan Povenmire and Jeff "Swampy" Marsh to portray Perry as a platypus owing to its relative obscurity compared to mainstream animals. While not directly naming Dalmatians, Marsh stated that in an interview "We wanted to pick an animal that kids couldn't go pick out at a pet store and beg for." The animal's obscurity also gave the series creators more flexibility with the character; despite this, Perry nevertheless became popular for all the right reasons.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ba9da2e1	comment	Foo Fighters. Dave Grohl has gone on to achieve huge success since the end of Nirvana, now that he's the face of the band and not just the drummer. This has led to a lot of accusations of selling out.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_bb849177	comment	Goldberg's popularity started dying down once he won the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, due to both the obvious notion that WCW didn't know what to do with him after putting the belt on him and fans getting sick of his Invincible Hero schtick. Anti-Goldberg signs and chants became increasingly common, which was countered by WCW allegedly piping in chants and cheers for him. When Kevin Nash beat Goldberg at Starrcade 1998 thanks to Scott Hall tasing Bill, the crowd popped hard. The whole point of the Starrcade screwjob and the fingerpoke of doom was to make Goldberg vulnerable and have him work his way back to the title by ramming through the New World Order one member at a time. But it never materialized and Goldberg never quite recovered his momentum after that.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_bc848d30	comment	SpongeBob SquarePants had this treatment as well. Due to its evergrowing popularity in the earlier seasons and the movie, they decided to create more episodes after Nickelodeon Uncancelled it. The popularity might not be a good one, since the newer episodes are labeled as being stale by many fans, although this is perhaps because the show has had a different director and production team since Season 4.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_bd4fcf5b	comment	Alexa Bliss was an Ensemble Dark Horse during her run in NXT and her run on SmackDown Live. Once she was drafted to RAW in 2017, becoming both its top female heel and RAW Women's Champion, she became booked as both a Spotlight-Stealing Squad and an Invincible Villain. Her unique gimmick was largely stripped down and replaced with a generic heel persona, and her first major feud on RAW against Bayley was a disaster that hurt both wrestlers' credibility quite badly, especially due to a universally panned "This Is Your Life" segment. Many people started turning on her, seeing her as an average worker who was only being pushed because of her looks. The heat reached nuclear levels when she won the Money in the Bank ladder match in 2018 over several newer stars. The backlash died down once she was booted out of the title picture to put the focus on Ronda Rousey, but even now, she is still seen as largely a joke.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_be68ee29	comment	Non-fans of the series were surprised to see even Fire Emblem fans cry foul when Corrin was announced as one of the DLC characters for Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U rather than a character from any other franchise, with a special shout-out going to the Inklings from Splatoon, with many assuming they'd be next due to that franchise's popular debut (they'd be the first fighters announced for the following installment instead).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_be7d29db	comment	Kyle Kallgren of Brows Held High discusses some aspects of this on his video on "Why I Hate The Word Arthouse". At first he talks about the common conception of "Art film = non-commercial", but then ponders on why you'll only make art as you don't expect being paid.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_bf4abb02	comment	Harley Quinn has gotten hit with quite a lot of this of late thanks to a colossal amount of Wolverine Publicity. While sheâ€™s always been the poster girl for a Breakout Character going from a minor henchwoman in Batman: The Animated Series to canon comic character her popularity only further boomed with The New 52 and Margot Robbieâ€™s portrayal in the DCEU (which became a cosplay sensation) eventually coming to the point where there are now scant few DC properties that donâ€™t feature Harley with her own animated series pretty much using her character to show off the greater DC universe to non-comic readers. Not to mention her cinematic portrayal having more appearances than Superman himself and turning the Birds of Prey into her own team. This has led to a good deal of Hype Backlash regarding Harley, with fans either complaining that Harley takes too much limelight away from other female DC characters who are often undersold and ignored or those who prefer her as a villain and feel sheâ€™s been degraded into just another member of the Bat-Family who uses guns. Some even liken Harley to an Alternate Company Equivalent of Deadpool in terms over overexposure.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_bff01809	comment	Warhammer used to be an adult game until mid-1990s when the target group was switched to children, and the rules were drastically simplified. Many old Warhammer players felt cheated. There is a movement called Oldhammer, which still plays Warhammer 3rd Edition rules (published 1987) with appropriate army lists.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c01688c8	comment	Batman (1989) managed to avoid this, if only because Tim Burton's movie was so massively hyped and generated so much controversy that it was bound to attract the interest of everyone, whether they liked it or not. As near as one can tell, Batman energized three very large, vocal and/or influential sectors of the viewing public: young adults, who delighted in Burton's "hipster" aesthetic and edgy humor; film critics (most of them older people) who were offended or even outraged by that same edginess and only watched the movie because it was so huge they just couldn't ignore it; and hardcore Batman fans, who were just so thrilled to finally get to see a true cinematic treatment of their hero that they didn't really care (or at least didn't care too much) that Burton's take was so radically different. (Incidentally, Batman ended up attracting a surprise fourth demographic: children, many of whom thought the movie was a lot of fun even though it was intended primarily for adults.) Generally, It's Popular Now It Sucks only applies to works that enjoy a moderately high level of popularity. If a work becomes insanely popular, as Batman did in '89, it turns into a phenomenon so awesome that no amount of backlash can truly hurt it.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c0d295c4	comment	Team Fortress 2 already had this attitude as soon as the game was announced as being free-to-play. Suddenly, everyone who had Steam could start playing and it also made people who had to buy this game feel cheated. The announcement also brought a surge of inexperienced players much to the frustration of veterans, to the point "free-to-play" is still sometimes viewed as an insult and a synonym for being a noob. (Although the free-to-play players either quit the game or got competent.) Wearing the Ghostly Gibus, the Mercenary or the Pyrovision googles is often seen as proof of a lack of skill, as these cosmetics are the only one easily available for free to play players. Free to Play Players cannot receive hats from a random drop, and they can't trade with other players, thus removing the two bigger sources of hats in the game, while the Mercenary is automatically handed to a new player the first time they log in, and the Gibus and Googles are obtained as soon as you land a domination on a player wearing said items. Since premium players never wear the Gibus once they end up getting a new, fancier hat, some players have it equipped it on purpose in order to lower their opponents' expectations, then catch them off guard by pulling off advanced techniques.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c19c6efa	comment	Minecraft, now that Mojang has received interviews in gaming magazines and been plugged on various Super Mario Bros. blogs, people are calling the demise of the game. The cries of "Mojang is a sellout!" became even more common among fans once they announced Minecraft would come to the Nintendo Switch, which happened because of the game's huge success. Thus, the game was later affiliated with Nintendo, right down to having official representation in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. It was received as well as you would imagine. It doesn't help that Minecraft is the best-selling media property of all time (though it's not the most profitable media property of all time).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c2eb3ab5	comment	Disco flowered hugely and briefly as an underground club scene and focused on dance. Being an urban phenomenon, this alienated rural and suburban. As a black phenomenon, it angered the racists. As a queer phenomenon, it angered the homophobes. Note that Saturday Night Fever, while a subversive exploration of urban life, is completely focused on straight, white characters. So as its popularity grew, these subcultures found themselves alienated and driven away from what had been safe spaces. Black disco fans, for example, moved on to Hip-Hop, which draws a great deal of influence from Disco. As the marginalized communities that had made disco a phenomenon to begin with drew away, it also lost a lot of prominent artists and the movement lost its fire. Consequently, while the genre remained popular in Europe, it vanished from the mainstream American eye until the 2010s.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c4282b71	comment	My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic clearly got this treatment. Within the fandom itself, there are a number of first-wave Bronies who have withdrawn from the show since Season 2, because They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. Some bronies that were fans of the show since the beginning disliked how the writers tried to appeal more to the new fandom after its discovery, which can seem like the case upon comparing the first and second seasons. However, the writers have revealed the second season was written long before they were even aware of the Periphery Demographic. A large minority of the fans who post on 4chan now refuse to call themselves 'Bronies', due to what they see as a subversion of the term caused "embarrassing people" joining the fandom; more specifically, furries and Banjo-Kazooie fans that gave the Banjo-Kazooie fandom such a bad reputation. It's also generally claimed that many fans have "jumped on the bandwagon" and that when Friendship is Magic is eventually over, most people will jump on another bandwagon, most of the remainder will eventually let it fizzle out and only the people who have made it so important to their lives that they can't let go will carry the torch. The fandom entered its cooldown stage in early 2016, shortly after the release of Undertale which drew a massive fandom of its own, and indeed, many of the fans that simply jumped on the bandwagon did jump off. But the fandom remained quite consistent up until the end of the show in 2019, and generally appears to be continuing to chug along. Many are sticking around to see if Generation 5 turns out good, but it's generally agreed nothing will ever match the initial surge in popularity the fandom had in Gen 4. The popularity of the show and bronies made its way outside of the Internet to the point where most retail stores are now selling brony related merchandise. Some bronies love this while others hate it. Bronies also managed to invert this trope. When Friendship is Magic took off, the fanbase exploded - and immediately started bashing on the previous generations of My Little Pony fans and shows. Fans of G1 My Little Pony love the new show, but if they ever mention that they were fans of the original, they immediately get insulted for liking such a "lame" show (same goes for younger fans who came on board during the G3 era, only even worse).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who: The classic series was for a long time very popular, becoming something of a national institution in its home country. By the time of its cancellation, however, it had for numerous reasons become something of a cult show, something which only intensified with the development of the largely fan-driven Expanded Universe media. When the new series came along and restored the show to its former popularity a certain subsection of these fans, having apparently forgotten that its period of being a cult was the exception rather than the intention, seemed to be convinced that the show's newfound popularity was a bad thing and that it should have remained the cult relic cherished only by a few fans and mocked by everyone else. Whilst the new series is significantly different in style and tone from the old series in many ways, thus generating plenty of legitimate criticism for numerous reasons, a significant portion of the critical response to the new version does seem to be comprised of people who are upset that it's not "theirs" anymore. There have been several people who have criticized the new show as being this, namely that it's become too big for its own good. Some have noticed that ever since the show went from "popular in Britain with cult audiences elsewhere" to "massively popular in multiple markets," some people think there's been a slight downturn in quality. Some have theorized that, since the show has become a worldwide success and therefore made the BBC a lot of money, they've been deliberately simplifying the stories to make them easier to translate and therefore easier to promote and export.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c4a1d59e	comment	For that matter, Call of Duty in general is very popular to mock because of this trope, especially Reddit. The first few games enjoyed Sacred Cow status; even Modern Warfare did because it was different (and because a certain Internet critic praised it). Then it started to become popular. Nowadays if you say anything positive about Call of Duty, you'll be lucky if you aren't murdered in your sleep.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c4df4e18	comment	Extreme sports in particular are targets of this. Skateboarding fans, for example, tend to complain to no end about the new fans that come with video games series like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c51b8d7a	comment	Nocturne also suffers from this, since it's the first main Shin Megami Tensei game to be released outside of Japan and hence more people have played this one than the original two. There is also a mix of Hype Backlash, as many Shin Megami Tensei fans have proclaimed this one of the best games ever while deriding the popularity of other games. The trolling can be a headache.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c686bb8	comment	The series got a taste of this when Nintendo of America announced an American release for Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones. Longtime fans raised such a stink about not only the localization changes but claimed the onslaught of newbie fans would muck up the nice cozy little fandom club they'd built for themselves.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c6b738c4	comment	A bit of a borderline example. When former Ring of Honor champion Tyler Black decided to sign a WWE developmental contract in late 2010, the ROH fans immediately turned on him and called him a "sellout". Black admitted in a later interview that this bothered him, and he used those feelings as part of the heel gimmick he took up due to the news. (In perhaps a bit of irony, Black supposedly also had the chance to re-negotiate his ROH contract, or also sign with TNA. Who convinced him to sign with WWE? The aforementioned Evan Bourne). Black isn't the first ROH wrestler to turn an impending move to WWE into a heel run; the aforementioned CM Punk did the same thing.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_c98cc8d8	comment	In Ciconia: When They Cry, one character theorizes that this is a fail-safe built into humanity in case a dangerous and self-destructive idea becomes widely accepted. Whenever something becomes too popular, around 5 to 15% of people will spontaneously start opposing it simply because it is popular. By faking an anti-World War IV movement and also spreading news stories about these anti-WW4 activists committing horrific crimes, the "fail-safe" quota counts as satisfied in most peoples' eyes and society becomes almost 100% pro-WW4.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_cb6abef3	comment	Look at the The Avengers, or really any popular Superhero film from the last decade or so. Chances are, you will find vocal fans of the source material that absolutely hate the publicity and popularity the franchise has received in light of getting a movie adaptation. For instance, it's not uncommon to hear Marvel fans complaining about how they have to put up with a bunch of kids and "fangirls" because of the popularity of the MCU. Some complain because the popularity of the MCU has affected the comic universe. Now Nick Fury has been replaced by Nick Fury, Jr., whose name wasn't even Nick Fury initially, but he is Fury's illegitimate son, and also half-black, meaning they can have a counterpart to the Samuel L. Jackson version from the films. For that matter, the Hulk has rejoined the team after decades of hating them, and Phil Coulson has officially become a canon immigrant. Some audiences grew to dislike the superhero movie genre for its overwhelming popularity in The New '10s. While there are only 6-10 superhero movies released per year, their high profitability means that they dominate much of the popular discourse and end up receiving the bulk of studio marketing and theater screens at the expense of other films. The relative popularity of superhero movies have frustrated some critics and filmmakers, most notably Martin Scorsese, for overshadowing other genre films and making it more difficult to green-light more niche films.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_cba3559b	comment	This has been the reaction of some veteran members of Survival of the Fittest following a surge of newcomers to the site.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_cc4c3b88	comment	And something happened to Kurt Angle between WWE and TNA, as he came there minus the IWC fans who called him one of the best workers in the world, instead ridiculing his delusional radio interviews and etc. and his past refusals to address supposed drug problems.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_cf8e87c8	comment	Re:Zero is the most vivid example of this after the Titans Attack, when Ensemble Dark Horse Rem suddenly gained wild popularity, which along with a series of unexpected turns and Take That! made the series incredibly popular. As a result of this, the show received an incredibly huge Hype Backlash at the expense of people who tried to interpret in a negative way almost any little thing in the work to prove to everyone that it "was not as gorgeous and revolutionary as you all say!". And in a more narrow example, part of the show's own fans, distanced themselves from Rem as a heroine, blaming her fans for Fan Dumb and complaining that because of her popularity, most of the series' products were devoted to her, despite the fact that she was not even the main character.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d03ce8d5	comment	The success The Chaser's War On Everything practically relies on the cast remaining anonymous. As the show increased in popularity they have needed to do more of their farcical stunts overseas, where they are not so well known. As a result of this, many of their older fans are getting bored of them and jumping ship, so to speak. This hasn't stopped a good chunk of them complaining that the show is ending after its 3rd Season.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d0744832	comment	Many longtime fans of The Avengers have lamented the team's promotion to Marvel's A-List in the wake of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and long for the days when the book was essentially a rest home for lesser known B, C, and D-List characters who no longer had books of their own. The series, in many fans' eyes, was blessed by a paradoxical situation where it's "lesser" position to flagships like Spider-Man or X-Men and usage of characters other books would consider C-List Fodder allowed it to be more free and meaningful then said popular books; relatively safe from the Executive Meddling that often troubles A-Listers, able to do epic yet intimate status-quo-breaking stories of the sort that would get A-Listers smashed with a Reset Button, and using it's "lower decks" nature to patch continuity, give continuation and closure to cancelled series, and build a mythology all it's own. But now that the Avengers are big names and the "core" of the Marvel Universe, their books have now ironically lost much of their direction and what made them stand out from the crowd, losing much of it's unique identity and dense history in favor of being streamlined into a more typical superhero series and becoming just as subject to editorial demands or entrenched "accessible" status quos as the aforementioned A-Listers.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d1fbfbbc	comment	The Twilight Saga series by Stephenie Meyer has gained a substantial hatedom merely because of how insanely popular the books are among young girls. This is especially true among fans of traditional horror stories and vampire stories, who will often yell "Your Vampires Suck!" due to its portrayal of vampires as brooding, beautiful, sparkly, baseball-playing teenagers. The character of Bella and the nature of her relationship with Edward has also garnered lots of criticism, as well as its retrograde views toward women.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d28f8264	comment	Queen, particularly in the years after Freddie Mercury's passing, where their most famous works skyrocketed in popularity with their use in films, commercials, sports events and random Internet memes. The trope, however, most likely began to take effect as early as 1974 when "Killer Queen" started climbing the charts. We Will Rock You and Bohemian Rhapsody have only intensified the sentiment amongst older fans.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d31cdea	comment	The Hunger Games. Dear God, The Hunger Games. It was, upon its release, universally acclaimed and met with glowing reviews from critics and readers alike. Then, about the time The Movie came out, its popularity skyrocketed, the movies received stellar reviews from critics and audiences alike, and a small but incredibly vocal Hatedom led by an army of Hipsters rose up.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d4cb8a02	comment	Natalya got this too. Ever since she was depushed in mid 2008 plenty of IWC fans were complaining about how she barely wrestled anymore and how they were dying for her to get a push. The Hart Dynasty split in late 2010 and Nattie got pushed in a Divas' title feud. She won the belt eventually and suddenly fans were complaining about how boring she was. When she was Demoted to Extra in early 2015, she suddenly gained back support, with fans once again complaining about her not being used properly.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d5164463	comment	This is also the attitude about memes from those around during the earlier days of modern Net culture (i.e. 2000-2010). Those who were around back then would use memes as inside jokes. Phrases like "Pool's Closed" were references to Habbo raids as opposed to racist phrases like members of the public thought (though the penchant of the raiders to form swastikas with their avatars didn't help). But as with nerd culture, memes started going more mainstream (helped out by Hot Topic making clothing of different memes, and Family Guy featuring them on their show) until these "inside jokes" weren't inside anymore, and memes started taking on a more "flavor-of-the-month" quality as Vine grew in popularity. As such, the members of that older generation often lament how memes went from being inside jokes that had staying power to suddenly being fleeting fads that show up, get about two weeks of attention, and are never mentioned again.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d616724d	comment	League of Legends provides an example within a game: there are people in the community that intentionally play unpopular characters, and find to their dismay that their team members leave the queue or flame them all game long because they picked a "bad" champion. But when the character is eventually "discovered" by the mainstream and rises on the tier list, they proceed to complain bitterly about tier lists and flavours of the month, abandon the champion and find a new unpopular character to play. It is apparently considered a badge of honour to claim you liked Galio or Irelia before they were popular. This is also expected to happen to Yorick.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d794a2a2	comment	AKIRA has managed to avoid this fate, despite that most people are actually familiar with the old dub ("KA-NAY-DAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!") that, strangely, neither Otomo or Macek themselves agreed with. If anything, the only It's Popular Now It Sucks that Akira is getting is the 2001 redub, which you would ironically think would be better received. (More thorough translation, they actually know how to pronounce Kaneda's name, and the fact that the 80s dub got a PG-13 rating thanks in part to the Animation Age Ghetto while the 2001 redub is rated R...)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d7aab7c1	comment	Sailor Moon was once considered a gateway anime in the 90s and an icon of feminism and girl power. Then when people realized everyone was watching it (especially The '90s dubbed version), it became trendy to bash it for being "kiddie" or sexist. It's since getting a revival in popularity, culminating in a Truer to the Text anime, Sailor Moon Crystal, but that hasn't stopped this trope completely.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d85a4c96	comment	Bless the Harts: Violet and David become obsessed with watching The Rocky Horror Picture Show at the matinee, with seeing it being their motivation to train for a fitness test. But once they see that it's a Cult Classic and everyone in town loves it, they immediately lose interest.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d99024a2	comment	Genesis: The band achieved huge levels of mainstream popularity in the '80s, but their shift to a more mainstream sound combined with the overexposure of frontman Phil Collins led to a massive case of Hype Backlash, resulting in the band's ignoble downfall in the '90s. Even after the '80s material (and Collins' solo work) got Vindicated by History in the 2010s, debates rage on about how it compares to the more uniformly acclaimed material that they put out when Peter Gabriel was their vocalist, a period when they were cult favorites at most.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_d9c602eb	comment	South Park: Parodied in "Chef's Chocolate Salty Balls", which focuses on film snobbery about independent films being better simply because of the "independent" label: "If you work in the entertainment industry, and you make money, you're a sellout." Parodied in "Chinpokomon" when the parents thwart the plan of the Japanese toy sellers to brainwash the children with the titular Chinpokomon toys by buying the toys themselves, hence making the kids think the toys now suck (although this is more because "Adults are uncool and lame, so anything they like must also be uncool and lame" than this trope).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_db404a1a	comment	Character example from Kengan Ashura: Gaolang Wongsawat, the Thai God of War, has a massive fanbase due to the series having a large readership in Thailand and South East Asia. His rabid fans' tendency to overstate his power level, and their general obnoxiousness, has caused many readers who would otherwise be fine with him to start actively disliking him.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_de1ff84d	comment	Anthrax was accused of selling out when they chose John Bush as their new lead singer and with their more mainstream-sounding album, Sounds of White Noise. The band's rhythm guitarist, Scott Ian, commented on this in an interview saying, "The bottom line is, everyone in this business is in it to make money. Myself included." They also got this treatment when they dared to commit the unforgivable crime of trying to give fans of different genres some common ground when they did a Rap Metal project with Public Enemy.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_dfe00c38	comment	American Idiot thrust them back into the limelight after nearly a decade in obscurity and brought them a new generation of fans, as well as a new generation of older fans complaining about how they had sold out. Even older fans of "old school" punk rock, who complained about Green Day commercializing the genre and watering it down for the masses.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e199d649	comment	Would Inheritance Cycle have half the Hatedom it does now if it wasn't a bestseller?
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e25322af	comment	Parodied in Homestar Runner on the Strong Bad E-Mail "geddup noise". Strong Sad was a fan of The Geddup Noise until it became a cultural sensation, after which he takes to wearing shirts that say "Corporate The Geddup Noise Still Sucks" and calling The Geddup Noise a sell-out. Combined with Creator Backlash in "Trogday '08", when Strong Bad dedicates a song not to Trogdor the Burninator, but to his earlier attempt at drawing a dragon from the same Strong Bad E-mail that spawned Trogdor, the "S is for Sucks" Dragon.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e42697e1	comment	All That got a lot more viewers and faced a lot more criticism after it was Un-Cancelled in 2001. The increased ratings could be attributed to more popular guests, more homes with cable/satellite, and Jamie Spears. The decreased reputation could be attributed to a change in the tone of the show, the complete replacement of all the old actors and writers, and Jamie Spears.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e5bcaba6	comment	The Fruit of Grisaia received this treatment when it was localized overseas for the first time in 2015 and became a Sleeper Hit among the western visual novel community. Its unexpected popularity put it on the same level as other high-profile Japanese visual novels like Fate/stay night, Steins;Gate, and CLANNAD, and in doing so, attracted a lot of detractors who would argue against the visual novel's overall quality. Some points of contention go towards the story pacing, the quality of the heroines (Michiru often being a popular punching bag), and the entire premise of the visual novel itself. A sizable amount of people flooded forums like Fuwanovel and r/vns just to complain about Grisaia, and in the latter's case, the complaints got so bad that much stricter rules and filters were set in place to prevent similar circumstances from happening again. Nowadays, this trend has largely died down.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e85e05b5	comment	Divergent even more so than The Hunger Games, as The Hunger Games is still typically considered to be great dystopian literature, whereas it's harder nowadays to find people who will openly admit to liking Divergent. The widely disliked movies certainly didn't help.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e9cb2780	comment	The Gears of War series has gotten popular enough to be alongside Halo as one of the "faces" of the Xbox platform. Nevertheless, fans of previous Epic Games titles and Console Wars debaters don't really seem too pleased.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_e9e265b6	comment	When Fire Emblem: Awakening came out and received acclaim and commercial success, the reaction from 'hardcore fans' was predictable. They got even angrier when both Robin and Lucina were made playable characters for Super Smash Bros.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ea4f62db	comment	Family Guy got this treatment when it was Un-Cancelled in 2005, after which the popularity of the series skyrocketed.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ecd3889f	comment	The IWC once LOVED John Cena at one point!
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ed2a7866	comment	Sword Art Online started off as a light novel series loved by the few who knew of it at first, but when the anime came out everyone turned against it and claimed the anime was crap. It has been mainly due to how the characters are handled, and the second half of the anime which is considered by many the worst.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_f5dfbbc3	comment	For David Lindsay-Abaire, it's Rabbit Hole. In both cases, that individual play is much more universally popular than any other play they're done so they're seen as selling out with them.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_f6a54e75	comment	The Kingdom Hearts series has received criticism from long-time players following the growth of the fanbase. Although the long-awaited Kingdom Hearts III is the series's best-selling entry and was met with mostly positive reviews, some fans feel that it doesn't live up to its predecessors in terms of story and gameplayâ€”they attribute its shortcomings to the fact that it was developed with a wider audience in mind.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_f6c05e8e	comment	Friends got hit from that during its third and fourth season, where its popularity skyrocketed, and it became trendy to make fun of it and say it was only watched by teen girls.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_f6e2c23d	comment	EarthBound Beginnings, now that the translation has finally been released and is receiving attention, there seem to be a lot of people who want to make clear to everyone that they always thought that the entire Mother series was overrated.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fa581bc0	comment	Cradle of Filth: Thornography apparently brought them mainstream. However mainstream extreme black metal can get. Some people will claim they're not black metal anymore, and/or never were in the first place. (The Other Wiki, for its part, says they "evolved" from simple Black Metal into a fusion band - that includes Black Metal elements)
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fb8549c	comment	Deadpool has been gaining lots of popularity ever since Wade Wilson's short appearance in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, so popular he had several titles running concurrently at one point, and was featured on almost every variant cover for the week of 27th Feb 2010. This caused a backlash from some original fans, who hated Marvel making him into the "next Wolverine".
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fb9c177d	comment	Certain parts of the Transformers fandom, over the year or so before the release of the 2007 live-action movie, preemptively expressed the sentiment that "It's going to be popular! That sucks!" Everyone else was rather confused. It becomes very silly when people accuse Transformers, a franchise that was created specifically to sell toys, of selling out. This being Transformers fandom, a Broken Base if ever there was one, there's also a very vocal segment that runs counter to this trope, and cheered every time it topped charts. Transformers is somewhat a subversion as more fans were happy with the movies success as it made the franchise relevant again in the eyes of the public. More relevance means more plastic (and even better, more die-cast metal), which has always made 'True Fans' happy even if they despised the related series.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fbc58609	comment	The Nightmare Before Christmas. Some fans feel this way because of it becoming a Cash-Cow Franchise. It doesn't help many buy Nightmare merch just to look Goth or Emo, not because they have actually seen the movie. Then add the Hate Dumb that thinks the movie sucks because they've seen the merch but have not actually seen the movie, and you get some pissed-off fans. Luckily, this is a Vocal Minority.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fcc7ec6b	comment	...and Triple H, probably before all the political stories came to light. That is, if the dirtsheets are to be believed...
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fd0b756	comment	Immediately once the credits began rolling at the first screening of The Return of the King, fans began screaming for him to make a movie out of The Hobbit. The legal battles that ensued, when it seemed that a movie would be made but Jackson would be denied the opportunity to direct, had fans frothing at the mouth at the very idea that someone else would be allowed to direct this movie (though this died down quite a bit when Guillermo del Toro was first announced to direct). Finally, Jackson was announced as director, and fans were happy...until he started actually making them and it turned out there would be two (later three) movies (more out of Executive Meddling than because of Jackson himself). Cries of "he's become a hack", "he's blinded by greed", "he doesn't get Tolkien", etc. started being shouted well before we saw any footage. The actual movies themselves have been widely accused of being too populist, being too focused on homages to the original trilogy, etc. In other words "Jackson's too popular, the original series is too popular, these movies will be too popular, so they suck, and so does he."
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fd6f613d	comment	DragonForce shows you don't have to do much to get this treatment by allowing the use of "Through the Fire and Flames" as a bonus track for Guitar Hero III. Fans at first praised its inclusion, and it would seem that this trope was averted. Then the game came out, and the cries of "Sellout!" came with it. Seriously, just go on to any video of the band on YouTube, either their music videos, their live performances, or their interviews and count how many comments read along the lines of "I liked Dragon Force before Guitar Hero.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fd7de151	comment	The popularity of Madoka Magica, along with Psycho-Pass and ufotable's adaption of the Fate/Zero light novels, made Gen Urobuchi a highly recognizable name to otaku. Fans introduced to his works through these three works conflict with his older fans, the latter group states he hasn't made anything good since Saya no Uta (a Urobuchi-written nitro+ visual novel from 2003). At least a small portion of his fanbase feels that these newbies often ignore the writer's pre-2011 works as much as his style. A Vocal Minority of anime/manga fans opposes Urobuchi's works for being dark, expensive, overrated, and popular, with general negative criticism going to both Urobuchi and Madoka. Urobuchi's haters are dismayed when they see any indication of his involvement in any projects, resulting in Hype Backlash. There exists the possibility of a fan quickly growing tired of anything related to his works as a result of discovering information about his popularity boost, but that has occurred less frequently since the Madoka craze ended.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fe0d604f	comment	Practically the same happened with Avatar: The Way of Water (now the fourth biggest grossing movie ever), only this time it came much faster than in 2009. There's some bafflement on how it managed to gross over $2 billion, some of it stemming from discourse that arose during the decade and a half between the first and second Avatar films that has been largely dominated by the Marvel Cinematic Universe and its much discussed "formula for success" (some of the anti-Avatar discourse is fuelled by the Fandom Rivalry that kicked in when the re-releases of the first film made it outgross Avengers: Endgame and reclaim its place as biggest grosser of all time).
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fe6cdec	comment	Nickelback. For a band with such a vocal Hatedom, and that so few people claim to like publicly, you'd think they'd get less airplay and make less money. A lot of their hatedom from grunge fans stems solely from the fact that the band can fill stadiums and arenas. Blame Canada for Nickelback, eh?
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_fe85bfc8	comment	Some people believe the insane popularity of the Super Smash Bros. series is what made the Brawl entry cater more to casual players due to the many changes made to the game mechanics and balance. Let us all remember of the divisive fact: what many considered intricate controlling - wavedashing, the most famous case - was a technique that even the makers thought it would bring a nice differential to the game, back in the Melee days. But the mastering of said techniques were spreading a huge gap between the hardcore players and those playing for fun in the metagame. It was the very rivalry between these groups getting out of hand in the communities that got those techniques removed from Brawl onwards. There's also the series itself as a whole, which quickly eclipsed every traditional fighting game in popularity, sales, and mainstream awareness and has never stopped doing that. It's not hard to find fans of traditional fighting games who are quite resentful of that, and you'll likely find at least a few who refuse to play a Smash Bros. game due to the effects it has had on the rest of the genre, such as the subsequent Newbie Boom each time a new Smash Bros. game comes out and the mechanics being very different than traditional fighting games. The issue is even more pronounced with fighting game fans in Japan, for many of whom Smash Bros. is classified as an "Unmentionable," meaning the mere acknowledgement of the existence of Smash Bros., even indirectly, is frowned upon.
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It's Popular, Now It Sucks! / int_ffeb22bf	comment	Wondermark gets in on the act here.
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