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Jacob Marley Warning
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Bob meets George. George represents what will become of Bob if he takes the same path George did. Specifically, he represents a path that leads to corruption and evil and/or to a generally a miserable life. If George is well-meaning, he may try to warn Bob to not make the mistake he did. If George is evil, he may instead encourage Bob to follow in his footsteps. Either way, Bob will ultimately decide that he does not want to end up like George. If Time Travel is involved, it may serve as an Ominous Message from the Future, and George may be Bob's future self, possibly a Future Loser. Named for Jacob Marley from Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol. In the book, Marley represents what will become of Scrooge if he continues to be such a selfish jerk. Naturally, any story that homages A Christmas Carol at all (of which there are many) will require a character in the Marley role as well. Not to be confused with Jacob Marley Apparel. For when the warning goes the opposite way, see Fling a Light into the Future. Compare and contrast Hypocrite Has a Point: It may seem hypocritical to tell someone not to make the same life choices you made yourself, but it's justified if you can offer the perspective of experience on how it will turn out badly. |
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In the manga adaptation for Kingdom Hearts II, a derezzing Sark warns Tron to stop believing in the users, since Sora and his friends would one day betray him, much like how Ansem betrayed them both, which lead to Sark's Face–Heel Turn. Tron retains his belief in the users, and Sora, who felt sorry for Sark, reassures him that they will always be friends. | |
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Dave does this to himself in Narbonic, by leaving a holographical note for his younger self's Mental Time Travel episode. | |
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The Law & Order: SVU episode "Redemption" features an older detective who represents Stabler if he follows his current path. | |
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Sabertooth to Wolverine. During the arc following Wolverine's full recovery of his memory, he has a flashback to one of his earliest encounters with his evil rival. In an uncharacteristically intellectual moment, Sabertooth tells him (in Latin) "I am what you you will become". In this case, it's not a warning or encouragement, it's a prediction; Sabertooth believes Wolverine will eventually give in to his animal side (instead of fighting it) and become just like him: a savage, remorseless killer who delights in indulging his violent instincts. This is basically one of Wolverine's greatest fears, and Sabertooth just loves taunting him with it. | |
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In Frankenstein, Victor serves as a warning to Walton, who is in danger of becoming as obsessed with his exploration as Victor was with the science that led to the creation of his monster. Though inverted in that he blasts Walton's crew for not having the balls to carry on on Walton's journey. Victor might represent what Walton could become, but unlike other examples, he doesn't realize this, or regard it as a bad thing. He blames the Creature for all his ills, but doesn't take responsibility for the hell he put the Creature through For Science!. | |
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Runaways has employed this a few times: At the beginning of the second series, the team is visited by Heroine, a future version of Gert, who warns them that there's a Bad Future coming unless they stop Victor Mancha from becoming Victorious. Gert even references Christmas Carol, calling Heroine "the Ghost of Hanukkah Future". She also repudiates Heroine, declaring that the only way she could ever become a leader of the Avengers is if she sold out her principles, and resolves to never become her. She doesn't, in fact, become Heroine; she's killed near the middle of the second series. In the "Dead-End Kids" arc, it could be argued that Klara — meek, submissive, and increasingly isolated from everyone except her spouse — represents what Karolina fears she is becoming in her relationship with Xavin. After Xavin dismisses Klara's plight as unimportant, Karolina decides that she will have to start standing up for herself. In "Homeschooling", Chase shows signs of becoming an abuser like his father. By sheer coincidence, his uncle, long thought to be dead, shows up and reveals that he long ago chose to leave their toxic family behind and considers himself better for it. Chase takes the wrong lesson from this, deciding that he needs to leave the other Runaways behind. |
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Foreman is afraid of becoming like the titular character of House. Despite trying to avoid this, he eventually does become what Cuddy describes as "House Lite", going even as far as acquiring House's habit of not wearing a lab coat. | |
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An episode of That '70s Show featured Eric meeting a 35-year-old who had no job and was as big a nerd as he was. He eventually decided to avoid that fate after he found out the man still lived with his mother. | |
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In The Outer Limits (1963) episode "The Premonition", the Limbo Being gives one of these to the main characters—mostly because they threaten to set him on fire forever if he doesn't tell them how to escape from their Time Stands Still situation and avoid becoming trapped in a Void Between the Worlds, as he was unable to do. | |
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RWBY: In Volume 7, Ironwood desperately wants Ozpin's advice on his plan to fight back against Salem, as well as his plan to protect Atlas. However, Ozpin's unavailability means his only advisor is Ozpin's young heir, Oscar. Oscar teaches Ironwood not to make Ozpin's mistake of isolating himself into a corner where he becomes the only person who makes the decisions and shares none of the burden with allies. As a result, Ironwood is encouraged to unite with the council and Robyn to evacuate Mantle and bring them up to speed on Salem's existence. Although this act makes it look like Oscar's advice has sunk in, the trope is subverted when the subsequent discovery that Salem is almost on their doorstep with an army becomes the last straw for Ironwood; he regresses, and then completes the transformation into a dangerous authoritarian who won't listen to reason by deciding to silence Oscar once and for all. | |
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The Amazing Digital Circus: In the Pilot, Kaufmo has become abstracted — driven to complete insanity, which causes the Circus' residents of human origin to transform into aggressive, mindless Digital Abominations which are a danger to all the other residents — and he's sent by Caine to the Circus' basement: a watery, black void where we see many other previous abstracted Circus residents have already been locked away before him to rot forever. This serves as a warning to Pomni of what will happen to her, or any of the Circus' other current residents, if they don't hold onto some semblance of sanity for as long as possible. Furthermore, in a darker cautionary warning, Kaufmo snapped and abstracted because he was obsessed with hunting down an "exit" door that he thought would take him out of the Circus and back to the real world, just like Pomni spent a chunk of the pilot doing — except the exit door's contents were never really a passage back to the real world, it was just an illusion created by Caine in an effort to placate the Circus' ex-human residents without understand the spirit behind the residents' longing for an exit. | |
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In Supernatural, Dean gets this warning from the post-apocalyptic version of himself, who implores him not to resist the angels' plan for him. Essentially, he's given the choice of either becoming Michael's vessel or killing Sam before Sam becomes Lucifer's vessel. Predictably, he tries taking the third option of patching things up with his brother so that Sam'll be able to resist Lucifer. | |
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Assassin's Creed Rogue reveals that Achilles's warning to Connor to "in your haste to save the world don't destroy it" in the third game was this; in Rogue Achilles was reckless and indifferent to the suffering his actions caused in the arrogant certainty his cause was just. His warning to Connor is thus an attempt to keep Connor from making the same mistakes. | |
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During the Mortis arc of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Ahsoka meets her adult self, who warns her that she won't have a future if she remains student to her master, Anakin. Ahsoka does end up leaving the Jedi Order (mainly for other reasons), which ultimately saves her life (or possibly made things worse?), as it helps her get her away from Anakin when Revenge of the Sith happens, but it's not clear if Ahsoka's vision was real (especially given post-The Clone Wars content) and actually helped. | |
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In the pro wrestling story A New Beginning, Gail Kim has turned heel and recently become WWE Women's Champion. After her title win, Molly Holly shows up to warn her that if she continues her heel ways, it will ruin her. Subverted in that Gail doesn't listen to the warning. | |
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Similar to the above The Shield, Vic meets up with his former mentor (played by Carl "Action Jackson" Weathers), who's a walking cautionary tale of Vic's current path (with gangbanger subbing for Armenian mobsters) For the record, that's in the first or second season. The show lasts for seven. |
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Iron Man Issue #293: Lampshaded by Tony (who is currently paralyzed and controlling the Iron Man suit remotely) after stopping the Controller, a paralyzed, broken man controlling human servants with his technology. | |
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After you defeat him in Ratchet: Deadlocked, Ace Hardlight provides the page quote by telling Ratchet not to let Gleeman Vox do to him what he did to Ace. | |
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The 1972 film version of Tales from the Crypt has a rather grim subversion of this. The Crypt-Keeper shows a group of strangers visions of the hideous fates awaiting each of them as a result of various wicked actions; at the end of the film, he reveals that these visions are not warnings of what might happen, but records of what has already happened; they're already dead, and destined for Hell. | |
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Stargate SG-1: In the early episode "The Torment of Tantalus", Dr. Ernest Littlefield represents what would become of Daniel if he stayed on the planet and tried to figure out the Meaning of Life Stuff. In the season ten episode "The Road Not Taken", Cameron tells Sam that she'll share her fate if she doesn't follow Landry's demands. Subverted, as Sam speaks out against Landry anyway. |
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The Introduction video in Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas shows OG Loc wanting to get into the gangster game with Sweet and Big Smoke. The latter reject his help and instead push him to go into college so that he can better his life and not fuck it up like they had. This doesn't stick. | |
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Doraemon: It's the eponymous robot's raison d'etre to stop Nobita from becoming a Future Loser, but occasionally, Future Nobita himself appears to whip his younger self into studying diligently. These are some of the most unsettling episodes, since Future Nobita knows his past-self's tricks and possess Doraemon's future gadgets. | |
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Grim Fandango: Domino Hurley is what the protagonist Manny would be if he had no morals, and he spends a lot of the game trying to encourage Manny to be more like him. | |
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In Jacob Marley's Christmas Carol, Marley's first warning is rebuffed by Scrooge, forcing him to try other methods. | |
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In the Gospel according to Luke, Jesus gives the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (not to be confused with the other Lazarus). The rich man goes to hell and then begs Abraham to send Lazarus back to act as the Jacob Marley Warning to his brothers. Abraham tells him it would do no good: "If they would not listen to Moses and the prophets, they would not listen even to a man come back from the dead." | |
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In The Little Foxes, Birdie warns her niece-in-law Alexandra: "Don't love me. Because in twenty years you'll just be like me. They'll do all the same things to you." | |
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In The Flash, Barry is under trial for murder of Clifford DeVoe/The Thinker (who cheated death via Grand Theft Me), and Joe, out of desperation, decides to plant evidence against Marlize DeVoe (Thinker's wife and accomplice). Ralph, who himself was disgraced from police duty because he falsified evidence, tells Joe of his own experiences as a pariah and said that if Joe went through with his plans, he'll be going through the same thing. Thankfully, Joe wisely drops his scheme. | |
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Even more recently, The Force Unleashed's protagonist is another representation of what Luke (and potentially Leia) would have been like if raised by Darth Vader. | |
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Gargoyles has an episode where Xanatos is able to time travel to the past for a limited time, enough for him to secure his future, Demona is able to sneak along for the ride, in order to warn her past self not to trust humans. Young Demona refuses to believe she will become cold and heartless like her future self, but the damage was done. Especially, when a future Goliath, who also traveled with Xanatos, tries to warn her not to become like her future self, making Demona realize that something bad was coming and not to trust humans after all. | |
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In an episode of Will & Grace, the titular characters meet an author who Will admires. They discover he's a miserable jerk who spends all day in his house arguing with his female best friend and roommate who's just as big of a jerk as he is. Guess who they remind the main characters of? | |
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In 30 Rock episode "Rosemary's Baby", Rosemary Howard represents what would become of Liz if she left TGS and wrote films based on the premise that art should be offensive. | |
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Done in The Muppet Christmas Carol, of course. Worth mentioning because A) they give Jacob a brother, Robert, so they can give the role of Marley to both Statler and Waldorf, which allows them to B) sing a cool little song about it all. And C) you get "Bob Marley". (Groan) | |
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Boy Meets World's sequel series, Girl Meets World sees Cory's former bully, Harley Keiner, working as a janitor in John Quincy Adams Middle School and regretting his actions as a bully, warning Billy when he's picking on Farkle. | |
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Concentrated to its essence on Dollhouse: Topher's final advice to his apprentice before his Heroic Sacrifice is "Don't become me!" | |
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Duke Edmun Dragonsbane from Dragon's Dogma turns out to be this. He initially comes over as a man who has everything he wanted, in the form of fame, power, riches, and a beautiful wife. But he is soon revealed to abuse his wife, nearly killing her, and is frequently reliving losing his past beloved. When the Player Character confronts the titular Dragon, they are given a Sadistic Choice. Either sacrifice their beloved, which will make the Dragon leave, giving the Player Character the fame and fortune as an alleged Dragonslayer, or face the Dragon in combat, which will almost certainly result in death. It turns out the duke experienced the ultimatum and chose the former, resulting in him being mad with guilt. This point is hammered in further, because making the former choice yourself shows you, the Player Character, having replaced Edmun Dragonsbane as duke, but living a lonely and maddening existence. | |
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The title character of Malcolm in the Middle met a 30-something loser who couldn't hold a job, was badly in debt to unsavory types and spent all day trying to get people to play chess with him at the park. He acted in exactly the same way as Malcolm. | |
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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power: When Theo starts to blame himself for Orodruin's eruption by giving the Artifact of Doom in exchange for his people's life, Galadriel warns him to not burden himself with such such guilt because otherwise he will have to live with it for the rest of his life, something that Galadriel does already. | |
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At the end of Game of Thrones, Sandor Clegane warns Arya not to let herself become so obsessed with revenge that it's the only thing left in her life like he did. House of the Dragon: After being proclaimed heir to the Iron Throne, Rhaenyra Targaryen has a talk with Rhaenys, who was denied her right to the throne on account of being a woman. Rhaenys warns her about her ambition and tells her that Westeros will never want to be ruled by a queen. |
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In Young Justice, this is Batman's defense as to why he had Robin join him on his crimefighting missions, though he doesn't say it to Robin himself (at least not onscreen, at any rate). In context, Batman had advocated for Captain Marvel's continued membership of the Justice League, despite the revelation that his true identity is a 10-year-old child: | |
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Epic Rap Battles of History has Donald Trump serve as this for Ebeneezer Scrooge in the series' 2013 Christmas Episode. | |
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House of the Dragon: After being proclaimed heir to the Iron Throne, Rhaenyra Targaryen has a talk with Rhaenys, who was denied her right to the throne on account of being a woman. Rhaenys warns her about her ambition and tells her that Westeros will never want to be ruled by a queen. | |
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Parodied in Brawl in the Family during their A Christmas Carol parody arc. Wario takes the role of Marley, who sees nothing wrong with the path Mario is taking, but is sent to warn Mario anyways. | |
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The reason that Luna helps Sweetie Belle in the fourth season My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode "For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils". As Luna's envy towards her own sister led to banishment for a thousand years, she doesn't want Sweetie Belle to make the same mistake with her own sister, Rarity. | |
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In the manga adaptation of The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, when Linebeck prepares to sacrifice himself against Bellum, he asks Link to be the loyal and heroic man that he wasn’t. | |
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American History X has Derek Vinyard, a violent Neo-Nazi who was sent to prison following a vicious hate crime and has reformed, and now seeks to help his little brother Danny do the same and keep him from going down Derek's violent path. | |
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Inverted in the fifth season premiere of JAG. When Harm regains aviator status and deploys onboard an aircraft carrier with a fighter squadron, his wingman is a young talented but impetuous hotshot named Andrew Buxton. Harm warns Buxton to be more cautious while flying and to not take excessive risks. Particularly after a pair of MiGs bait him and then trap him in a bad position in a dogfight. Harm tells Buxton that “I used to be you!”. However, the inversion kicked in, in that while Harm did become a more careful aviator prior to his accident, Buxton completely ignored Harm’s warning - and ended up facing Court Martial for fratricide as well as losing his wings. He therefore becomes more of the Jacob Marley. | |
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A humorous Twitter post pokes fun at this concept, narrating an encounter in which the subject is suddenly visited by a specter and an older-looking version of themselves. Upon seeing the subject, the older version cries out and falls to their knees, beseeching the specter to "banish these foul visions" and promising to change their ways, at which point both the specter and older version banish, leaving the bewildered subject alone once again. | |
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Max Ryan from the Criminal Minds episode "Unfinished Business" represents what could happen to any of the main characters if they allow their work at the BAU to dominate their lives: he's divorced, rarely sees his children and went as far as to move house in order to be closer to one of the crime scenes in a serial killer case that he never solved. Later in the show, Agent Rossi serves a similar purpose, having been divorced three times, being obsessed with an unsolved double murder, having been too focused on fame and having let his whole life pass him by while he worked at the BAU. | |
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In Beyond Scared Straight, this is the whole point of having inmates speak to the troubled kids. Quite often, the inmates will have gone down the same path that the kids did, and are either in jail for life or have been in jail so many times that they might as well be in for life. As hard as the inmates are, the message of "don't end up like me" is said loud and clear. One teen named Toby went through a Scared Straight program, but found himself in jail anyway on assault charges. Toby ended up giving a similar speech to another group of kids, revealing that he was basically broken down by the third day after his food kept getting taken, and he had no way of getting it back. Toby said, in so many words, that they'll get caught if they keep acting up. |
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xkcd: Apparently, there is one just for Single Issue Wonks. | |
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In the Main Story of Ensemble Stars!, Keito encourages Mao to return to Trickstar by warning him not to make the same mistakes he made, implying that he regrets following Eichi even though he still can't give up his Undying Loyalty to him. | |
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South Park: Parodied in the "My Future Self 'n' Me" episode, where an organization hires actors to play kids future' selves to keep them from using drugs. Played with at the end of the episode with Cartman. The Future Cartman is a handsome and successful businessman who says that this is the big turning point in his life, and encourages his younger self to stay on the straight and narrow. Cartman, convinced that the guy is just another actor, resolves to be even more of a selfish jerk than he normally is. After he walks off, the Future Cartman changes into a fat slob, meaning that he wasn't an actor after all. |
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Played with in The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob!. Molly's clone, Galatea, was raised under much worse circumstances than Molly, and turned out mean, paranoid, and borderline villainous. When Galatea finally starts to get herself in order and become less of a jerk, Molly's family offers to let her live with them. Galatea makes it clear that she appreciates the offer, but refuses because she's afraid of losing her own identity if she were to start living exactly as Molly does. A subversion, since Molly's life was far nicer and more stable than Galatea's at that point. | |
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One story in Sunnyville Stories has local housewife Mrs. Brown stop a fight between Mr. Jakes and his nephew. She warns them of how she had a quarrel with a childhood friend but that friend died tragically before they could make up; she further warns them that it's too late for her but the two still have a chance to make up and they do. | |
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Done in the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Hell's Bells", where Xander meets his future self who tells him he will be unhappy marrying Anya. Subverted when it turns out future Xander is actually one of Anya's victims pretending to be Xander. | |
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Disney's The Kid is a rather weird take on this trope... starting with the fact that it's told from the Jacob Marley's perspective. He gets chewed out by his younger self by giving up on their dreams. | |
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John Finnemore's Souvenir Programme: Spoofed with season 2, episode 2, where a Chris Mascheer is visited by the ghost of his best friend (who is also a lion) visits him to show what will happen if he remains a workaholic who ignores his family; he becomes CEO of the company, but his wife left him and his children hate him, before he drops dead of a heart attack. He's happy with this, since being CEO was what he wanted, and why he worked such long hours in the first place. So he figures if he is a complete bastard who ignores them completely, he'll get there sooner. So his best friend bites his head off. | |
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In Fatal Frame II, Itsuki represents what Mio will become if she performs the Crimson Sacrifice and kills her twin. | |
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Played with at the end of Artemis Fowl and the Eternity Code. Butler delivers one to the imprisoned Arno Blunt, The Dragon of the book's Big Bad, claiming he has "seen hell" and that Blunt will see it too unless he repents and confesses his crimes. The twist is that Blunt thinks he shot Butler dead and that he really is seeing the man's ghost, but Butler (thanks to fairy magic) is Not Quite Dead. | |
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Dragon Quest: The Adventure of Dai: When Popp is hesitant about saving Dai and Maam, both of whom are in danger in a battle Popp himself is too feeling afraid to engage in, Masopho, the old mage in the group of fake ultimate heroes tells Popp that he, too, used to abandon his friends when the odds looked bad, which eventually led to him being in his current state. Faced with the choices he's presented, Popp runs off to save Dai and Maam. | |
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In the Friends episode "The One Where Heckles Dies", Chandler discovers that cranky old Mr. Heckles was once a fun guy, and becomes obsessed with the notion that he may become just like Heckles when he gets older. | |
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Repo! The Genetic Opera: Blind Mag is a more tragic variant on this- she's a completely noble, compassionate person whose only mistakes were trusting entirely the wrong people. She warns her similarly trapped goddaughter Shilo to bolt for her freedom and think for herself. | |
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