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Tends to be a High School trope. When a father was a jock in high school (usually marks his Glory Days) while his son pursues less athletic endeavors, usually to the father's disappointment. In quite a few cases the father's grief stems from him being a Jaded Washout who had hoped to live vicariously through his son, but the son's interests effectively means he can't.
Related to a "Gender-Normative Parent" Plot, but is part of the underlying characterization as opposed to a single episode plot. Subtrope to Like Father, Unlike Son. Could be considered an inter-generational version of Sensitive Guy and Manly Man, as well as a loose gender inversion to Feminine Mother, Tomboyish Daughter.
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The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air: Uncle Phil was an Academic Athlete and a star athlete in college, while his son Carlton is academically oriented but terrible at sports, especially basketball. When his cousin Will starts playing basketball and becomes the star of the team, Carlton becomes jealous of his father bonding with Will over their shared interest in sports.
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Lightly touched upon in Telling Lies? No, Mama, when Lila and her mother turn into an akuma. Lila shoots beams that turn people into their opposite, while her mom makes people tell truths they've buried deep inside. One boy she hits is a basketball player. After her beam hits him, he admits that he hates basketball and only joined the team because his dad made him. He really wanted to do theater, but his father said it was for gays.
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Bones:
In the episode "Boy in the Time Capsule", Alex Stinson, an uber-nerd science kid, was the son of a jock football player (Terry Stinson) and his head cheerleader Childhood Sweetheart Janelle Stinson, and the father was disappointed at him being a nerd. It turns out the nerd was actually the son of the Victim of the Week, Roger Dillon (the titular "boy"), an uber-nerd computer geek who nobody in his class liked and who was the Abhorrent Admirer of the Alpha Bitch - that is, until they had to do a paper together, she fell for him, and they had sex. The "father", who had discovered the affair, as well as another nerd (Gil Bates), who was the victim's best friend with whom he had created a computer program that would make him very rich by the time the Jeffersonian was investigating the crime, were the murderers.
Another episode has the body discovered by a pair of father and son deer hunters, with the son being more preoccupied with worrying about making it back in time to watch a Project Runway like-show and read a biography on Diane von Furstenberg. His dad is chagrined, berates him a little bit about being unmanly, and Then proceeds to make a high-pitched scream when they find the victim of the episode while the son grabs a shotgun and blasts the skull.
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That '70s Show: Red is a War Veteran instead of a former High School Jock but he still has this type of relationship with his son Eric. One episode also made reference to Red having been on the wrestling team when he was in high school.
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One The Simpsons: Treehouse of Horror episode shows us Prof. Frink's dad, who, although also an academic, is more of the Adventurer Archaeologist sort.
Rainier Wolfcastle stars in an In-Universe example, "Help!, My Son is a Nerd!" Kent Brockman is surprised to find out it isn't a comedy.
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The Outer Limits (1995):
In "Sandkings", Dr. Simon Kress was a nerd growing up while his father was very much a jock.
In "Stranded", a nerdy teenager with an interest in science is neglected by his sports-oriented father, who openly favors his more jock-like (but still nice, at least to his little bro) older brother. When an alien bounty hunter's ship crash lands nearby, this makes the kid more open to an offer of friendship from the alien, who turns out to be the bounty hunter's criminal.
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Dragon Ball: Son Goku and Son Gohan. Goku is a martial artist who loves fighting and training who spends all of his days training whenever possible. Gohan on the other hand, while being a powerful martial artist himself, is more of a scholar, which is his profession. In days of peace, Gohan spends his days studying or doing his job, leading him to become out of shape. Goku has already accepted that Gohan is not a fighter and doesn't expect him to fight alongside him. However, Gohan would briefly return to fighting during serious crises. Depending on the media, Goku might show a little disappointment toward his eldest son.
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Hank and Bobby in King of the Hill. Hank was a high school athlete; Bobby is pudgy, lazy, and more interested in becoming a comedian, not to mention more sensitive than Hank ever feels comfortable with.
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Married... with Children: Al Bundy was the Big Man on Campus in high school. He was a football hero and made it with every hot girl in his class. In contrast, his son Bud is constantly trying (and failing) to score with women and is much more academically oriented. On one occasion, Al says that if the two went to school together, Al probably would not have let Bud hang out with him.
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Charlie from Where's Willie? likes hiking, fishing, and sports. Willie is a Child Prodigy who invents a computer that can Hack the Traffic Lights. Charlie doesn't understand his son at all, and even threatens to get rid of all his computers at one point.
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Halloween (2018): An early scene has a father and son on a hunting trip right before Michael escapes from custody, with their dialogue showing the son he prefers dance lessons to hunting.
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Mr. Peabody & Sherman: A downplayed version. Both title characters are extremely dorky, but Mr. Peabody is an accomplished athlete, winning two Olympic medals.
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In the X-Men: Evolution fanfic XXY:Evolution, where most of the characters are genderbend, Kit Pryde (male Shadowcat) is a geeky kid who likes sci-fi and fantasy while his dad Carmen was said to have been a great quarterback in high school. Because of this, Kit believes himself to be a disappointment to his dad, which even the bullies, his coach, and one of his dad's buddies think so, and his emerging mutant ability makes it more difficult. But his dad does accept him for who (and what) he is, and apologizes for making him think otherwise.
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The Big Bang Theory: Sheldon often talked about how his father forced him to learn football. Explored in detail in the prequel series Young Sheldon, where we see that his father is a football coach.
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Robin: While Tim is plenty active he's also a nerd whose into photography and doesn't care for American Football, which his dad doesn't seem to be capable of understanding. As a matter of fact, Jack only figures out Tim is Robin after he tears his son's room to shreds after hearing that the high school football coach doesn't recall Tim trying out for the team and discovers the Robin suit hidden behind a discrete panel in Tim's closet.
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Life of a Horse Trader: Yone is a Boisterous Bruiser who is also a champion sumo wrestler while his son is quiet and bookish. This causes some tension when it's time to decide about Daihei's education.
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In the DuckTales (2017) episode "The Dangerous Chemistry of Gandra Dee," after Mark Beaks uses nanobots to bulk himself up, he catches a projectile with ease, causing him to comment that he's never actually caught a ball before, and then retorting "Well, who's the loser now, Coach Dad?!"
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Inverted with Roy Greenhilt and his father Eugene in The Order of the Stick. Roy chose a career as a fighter class as opposed to a wizard like his father, which are seen as a jock and nerd class at least in-universe. Played straight with Eugene and his own father, Horace, who had inspired Roy's career path. Interestingly, Roy was apparently a nerd compared to other fighters (possibly because Roy tries very hard to avert the "fighters are Dumb Muscle" stereotype)
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Inverted in DC Super Hero Girls. Giganta's parents are nerdy scientists while she's an athletic jock who hates science class.
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Things Fall Apart: A fairly unconventional example set in colonial Nigeria. The Hero Okonkwo is a phenomenally strong warrior and farmer with a predilection for violence and is as macho as one can possibly get—in sharp contrast to his eldest son Nwoye, who dislikes fighting and prefers listening to women's folktales (and later converts to Christianity because his sensitive heart is touched by the missionaries' songs). This irritates Okonkwo to no end, and more than once Okonkwo has considered possibly killing his son.
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Schitt's Creek: Johnny brags about being on his school baseball team, but it was a Hebrew school team called The Flying Latkes, and it's clear Johnny was a nerd. However, he's a better player than his Camp Gay son David who only agrees to play in an amateur game to please his boyfriend. The storyline turns out very sweet as Johnny, who is on the opposite team, loses interest in playing to cheer on his adult son who makes a surprise hit and wins the game.
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Aaahh!!! Real Monsters had Slickis, 'this Academy's most esteemed graduate', a world-renowned top athlete and professional scarer. His son Ickis is often mistaken for a cute bunny rabbit on scares, and once even got his foot run over when he tried to frighten two teenagers who wanted to make out at an isolated location. That said, Slickis supports Ickis despite his shortcomings, even emphasizing his own failures to make his son feel better.
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Batman Beyond has Willie Watt. He's a complete nerd and not the cute kind. Conversely, his father Frank is a well-built man who is into construction. He makes it clear to Willy that he "ain't raisin' no wuss" and even encourages Willie to use violence against the bullies that torment him. This inspires Willie to steal a high-powered construction Golem and attacks his fellow students with it at a school dance. He even aims to be a Self-Made Orphan and tries desperately to kill his own father. What was Frank's response when his son got arrested for all this mayhem? "Guess this means he ain't no wuss anymore." Batman's Disapproving Look makes him regret saying that.
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In Doraemon, Nobita's father is Dumb Muscle. Nobita himself, however, is one of the weakest kids in school and is thoroughly uninterested in any sort of physical activity.
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Still Standing: Brian tends to be a nerd, and his sports-loving dad Bill doesn't approve.
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Seinfeld: Before coming up with the famous "show about nothing" idea, George pitches a sitcom idea to Jerry that revolves around this trope, although "jock" might be stretching things a little.
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Another episode has the body discovered by a pair of father and son deer hunters, with the son being more preoccupied with worrying about making it back in time to watch a Project Runway like-show and read a biography on Diane von Furstenberg. His dad is chagrined, berates him a little bit about being unmanly, and Then proceeds to make a high-pitched scream when they find the victim of the episode while the son grabs a shotgun and blasts the skull.
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In Firewatch, Ned Goodwin fancies himself an adventurous outdoorsman living off the land. Despite his many attempts to get him interested in things like hiking and rock climbing, his son Brian is far more interested in comics and role-playing games. This eventually gets Brian killed in a cave-in, driving Ned away from civilized society entirely.
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The Kids Are Alright (2018): Mike Cleary is a jock dad who wants his sons to become nerds. As a machinist at an aerospace company during the Space Race, he's seen what scientists and engineers can accomplish so he pushes Lawrence, his eldest, in particular, to pursue an education and gain opportunities he didn't have growing up.
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NCIS: McGee's father. Admiral of the Navy dad and computer nerd son.
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The Cleveland Show: Highlighted in the episode, "Field of Streams", where Cleveland (who was p a star athlete in high-school) wants his son, Cleveland Jr., to join the baseball team and carry his legacy but the latter is more invested in joining the Math Club.
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Ultimate Fantastic Four: Played for drama. Gary Richards is a huge sports nut and obsessed with "manly" behavior. His son Reed's quiet nature and fascination with science elicits his scorn, to the point that he openly regards Ben Grimm as being the son he wanted but never had.
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Inverted with Marty McFly and his father George McFly in Back to the Future. Unlike his cool popular skateboarding son Marty, George was an unpopular shy nerd who is constantly bullied.
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Assassin's Creed Origins: One quest in the "Curse of the Pharaohs" DLC has Bayek run into a young man who wants to become a scribe, but is hesitant because he thinks his father would look down on such things. His father? Is Rameses II, one of Egypt's longest lasting and most successful rulers (it's a long story). Fortunately, the quest ends with the kid learning his father is actually fine with his choice of career.
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Inverted in The Dragon Prince with Viren and Soren. Harrow and Callum could be considered a straightforward step-parent version, with Harrow as the archetypal Knight in Shining Armor and Callum as the artist and mage-in-training. Unlike Viren and Soren, there's no friction between Harrow and Callum over their differences.
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A Song of Ice and Fire:
Prince Maekar is a medieval version of this in the Tales of Dunk and Egg prequel series. He is famed for his joint military exploit in the Blackfyre Rebellion alongside his brother, Baelor, and tries to coach his sons to be great warriors like himself. Only one of his kids, Aerion, becomes a good warrior, and that one turns into a deplorable sadist as well, while the other three become a well-meaning but craven drunk (Daeron), a mild-mannered scholar (Aemon) and a rebellious runaway hanging out with commoners (Aegon). Maekar has a blindly antagonistic Papa Wolf moment in response to the prowess of his children being brought to question by the events of the first novella.
Randyll Tarly is a brilliant, no-nonsense warrior while his eldest son Samwell is a fat bookworm. Randyll spent Sam's entire life trying to whip him into shape without success. Finally, when his wife birthed a second son, he gave Samwell a choice: Join the Night's Watch and renounce his claim as heir to House Tarly, or suffer a Hunting "Accident".
The first known Baelish was a sellsword from Bravos, his son a knight, and his son a minor lord who fought and distinguished himself in the war of Ninepenny kings. The next Baelish has no martial skill, instead being a financial miracle worker who elevates the house to greater heights.
Aegon the Conqueror was a muscular, charismatic general who brought about the union of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros through military force. His son and heir apparent, Aenys, was a spindly nerd who had no interest in fighting and preferred the company of septons and maesters to knights. Many people at the time complained that Aenys was not fit to be his father's successor, and dreamed of Aegon's other son, Maegor, who did inherit his father's physical prowess, of becoming king. Unfortunately, Maegor would go down in history as Maegor the Cruel...
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An in-law version in Regular Show between the socially awkward, sensitive Mordecai and Frank, Margaret's intrepid helicopter-piloting dad.
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The Rugrats Season 5 finale, "The Family Tree," reveals that Chuckie's grandfather, Marvin Finster, is much more conventionally manly than Chas Finster, who is Chuckie's father.
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Big City Greens: Remy, Cricket and Tilly's best friend, is a mild-mannered, geeky, nerdy-type kid who's more into science, math, music, and video games than typical manly or athletic endeavors. His father, on the other hand, is a wealthy retired professional football player, who was the star jock at both his high school and university. The episode "Football Camp" even revolves around Remy's dad trying to get him into playing football by making him and Cricket come with him to a football camp, until Cricket convinces Remy to tell his dad that he's okay with being better at football on his video game than in real life, and that he doesn't have the same sports dreams as his father.
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Preacher: An odd variation. Jesse's father was a Vietnam veteran but was murdered when he tried to take his family away from the clutches of his wife's Evil Matriarch. Jesse spent his childhood forced to train to be a preacher, but his grandmother's henchman Jody made sure to teach Jesse all about horses, cars, guns, and fighting (well, taking beatings), apparently honestly concerned that Jesse was a weakling just because he cried when his friend was murdered or his puppy nailed to a fence. His last words just before Jesse kills him were "Prouda you, boy".
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Grounded for Life: Henry wants to sign up for tap dancing, but his dad pushes him to do a more "masculine" sport like soccer.
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Spider-Man: Inverted in The Amazing Spider-Man (1963) #372, where a Flashback showed us that Flash Thompson's dad was a brilliant academic, who was totally unimpressed by his son's prowess on the football field. Flash bullied Peter because he saw him as the sort of son his father wanted. However, this was eventually made non-canon with his father actually being established as an abusive alcoholic and a cop who pressured Flash into athletics.
It's also inverted for Peter himself. He's the nerd dad and in different universes like Spider-Girl or Renew Your Vows, his daughters are more athletic and less interested in science than him (Mayday Parker was on the basketball team until she had her powers and Annie May was a Bully Hunter when she was a kid and her spider powers were active from birth)
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Father of the Bride (2022): Adan is a softspoken lawyer who dislikes sports, while his father Hernan is a pompous businessman who dabbles in several sports. Hernan laments late in the film about where he went wrong with Adan, and Billy reassures him that he raised a good son.
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Tea and Sympathy: The play and film play this to the hilt: the former football player dad, who still acts like a high school jock, and his son, the sensitive actor and singer whom everyone suspects of being gay. Dad rather crudely tries to push his son Tom into more "manly" activities, oblivious to the effect on his psyche. Yet when Tom has a mental breakdown resulting in a suicide attempt, Dad's nowhere to be found.
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How to Train Your Dragon: Hiccup would be this to his father Stoick the Vast. Scrawny little nerd-boy in a society of huge, fierce, dragon-fighting Vikings.
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Another inversion in the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode: "Common Ground". Quibble Pants is the nerd who is worried he has nothing in common with his future stepdaughter who loves sports.
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Teen Titans: Cyborg is an inversion. Even though Victor is brainy, he resents his scientist parents pushing him into academics and chooses to pursue athletics...until, of course, the accident that nearly killed him, at which point his dad made him a cyborg to save his life. Later versions of his origin have Victor's father brushing off his son almost entirely because of his athletic focus, even when it's made clear Vic's academically excelling as well.
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Dolph's dad in Camp Camp is a military man who is very embarrassed about his son's love of arts and crafts and wishes he'd take up a manlier hobby, like guns or (American) football. For some reason, this disturbs him more than Dolph's other major issues.
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Parodied in Hägar the Horrible with Hägar, who is virtually Book Dumb illiterate and goes on raids to make a living, and his very literate and studious son Hamlet, who prefers reading to fighting and is vastly more skilled than his father at reading and writing.
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Daredevil: Subverted in issue #1. Young Matt Murdock wants to become a jock, but his father, the small-time prizefighting boxer "Battling" Murdock, forbids him to do that (or to "rassle" with the neighborhood kids) so that he can concentrate on his studies and have a better life than his past-his-prime dad. Thus very much against his will, Matt becomes a nerd and the butt of cruel jokes by the boys of his Hell's Kitchen neighborhood.
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Prince Maekar is a medieval version of this in the Tales of Dunk and Egg prequel series. He is famed for his joint military exploit in the Blackfyre Rebellion alongside his brother, Baelor, and tries to coach his sons to be great warriors like himself. Only one of his kids, Aerion, becomes a good warrior, and that one turns into a deplorable sadist as well, while the other three become a well-meaning but craven drunk (Daeron), a mild-mannered scholar (Aemon) and a rebellious runaway hanging out with commoners (Aegon). Maekar has a blindly antagonistic Papa Wolf moment in response to the prowess of his children being brought to question by the events of the first novella.
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Frasier (2023) has an inverted case with Frasier and his son Freddy, who dropped out of Harvard to become a firefighter and has more blue-collar tastes like Martin did.
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Diary of a Wimpy Kid: Greg, the titular Wimpy Kid, is the nerd son to his father Frank's jock dad. An odd case since Greg is Book Dumb unlike the typical nerd, but the trope is still there: Frank wants Greg to play sports, even if Greg hates them and would rather stay at home with comic books and video games.
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Inverted in She-Ra and the Princesses of Power with Bow and his parents. Bow's dads are both historians who want him to inherit their library once they retire. However, Bow is secretly a talented archer fighting against the Horde.
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The Quintessential Quintuplets: Fuutarou Uesugi is a straight-A student whose physical capacities are below average, to say the least. His father Isanari, however, has a muscular physique that suggests he regularly exercises.
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Project Tau: Kalin Taylor has this relationship with his father, to the point where Benjamin Taylor wonders if Kalin is really his son.
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One episode of Hey Arnold! featured a pair like this. In "Rich Guy," Arnold and his grandpa meet Sammy Redman, a millionaire who adores sports. Sammy becomes quite close to Arnold, even calling him "Sonny," which viewers find out is his way of making up for the fact that his own son Alan is a photographer who hates sports. Eventually, Sammy and Alan find common ground in baseball photographs.
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Ghost Girl (2021): Elijah's father is a former football player who still has the body to prove it, in contrast to his son, who's out-of-shape and hates sports.
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As an interesting inversion, The Goode Family has Gerald, a borderline Hippie Father, struggling with his son Ubuntu joining the school's football team.
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Runaways: Inverted. Chase is initially presented as a jock, and his parents are both super-geniuses. His father is less than impressed with his son's athletic abilities.
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Frasier: Martin has this relationship with both his sons in a slightly different context. Martin was a man's man cop for decades and has two opera-loving, psychiatrist sons with whom he has little in common.
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Friends: A bit of a Downplayed Trope in the relationship between the somewhat nerdy Ross and his father, even though he was generally portrayed as on the positive side of the Parental Favoritism; "The One With The Male Nanny" revealed that Jack Geller once saw the young Ross playing with his toy dinosaurs and asked why he wasn't outside "like a real boy". A similar, in-law version involved Ross and Rachel's dad, a stereotypical "All-American Boy" bordering on Jerk Jock.
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Chicken Little: Provides the contrast between scrawny and geeky Chicken Little and his father, a former star athlete.
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For a given value in My Dad The Rockstar between Willy Zilla and his father Rock. Both are musically talented, but whereas Rock is a boisterous rockstar, Willy is far more reserved and into jazz with his trombone. The inverted relationship exists between Rock and his own father who is a world-famous classical cellist. In the physical sense, Rock has a muscular build while Willy is a scrawny nerd.
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On one episode of Dexter's Laboratory, Dexter's dad tries to teach him how to do sports, but is always thwarted by Dee Dee. Not that Dexter's dad is athletic, but his interests go that way.
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Park and Jamie in Eleanor & Park are the poster child of this trope.
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Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves: Inverted. Wayne is a tech nerd whose youngest son, Adam, plays baseball. At the beginning of the movie, Adam asks Wayne to let him go to baseball camp instead of science camp. Wayne ultimately obliges (and is overjoyed to discover how much math there is to it).
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 Runaways (2017) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Schitt's Creek / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Stargirl (2020) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 The Kids Are Alright (2018) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 The Middle / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Touched by an Angel / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 White House Plumbers / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Young Sheldon / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Delicious (Video Game) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Donkey Kong '94 (Video Game) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Maneater (Video Game) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Extra Credits (Web Animation) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Masako X - Dragon Ball What-If (Web Video) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 McJuggerNuggets (Web Video) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Angela Anaconda / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Barbie: The Pearl Princess / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Beany and Cecil / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 How to Train Your Dragon (2010) / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 The Dragon Prince / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son
 Young Justice - Revival Series / int_49d56e94
type
Jock Dad, Nerd Son