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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better

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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better	comment	The story is set in some high-tech and/or futuristic society. There are massive computer networks, sentient robots, and ships that can zip across space with the same amount of effort it takes you to go to the store down the street. Despite all this technology, however, combat isn't all that different. Battle armor may have some gizmos on it, the guns may have higher muzzle velocities and an ammo count greater than the population of several rural communities, war vehicles may be able to do some fancy new tricks, but combat is the same at heart, bullets and shells still rule the battlefield. If there are energy weapons in the universe, they either are experimental and wracked with issues like overheating and unwanted by-products, or they're horribly disadvantaged with few available shots before a recharge or a new power pack is required. They will often also be the first type of weapon to go wrong; the more complex parts a weapon has the more likely it is to break. The reason for favouring projectiles in fiction is Rule of Cool — while subjecting stuff to melting or explosive evaporation is cool, broken pieces of the same stuff flying away with a boom may be even better than the mediocre zap of a laser. This does of course have its roots in the fact that Reality Is Unrealistic: serious laser weaponry actually uses short duration pulses with incredibly high energies that would simply explode an object into plasma the same as if it were hit by a high-velocity projectile... but audiences still expect to see Laser Cutters, so we're stuck with them. For a detailed look into why one may or may not use projectiles over energy weapons, visit our Analysis page. There are also real world scientific reasons for using projectiles instead of energy weapons, especially against shielded ships. In defending against lasers, the in-universe shields may be extremely effective at re-radiating heat back into space. To stop a projectile, the shield has to decelerate it, and any force applied to the projectile is in turn applied to the shield generator. Mike Wong of Stardestroyer.net does a good job explaining how the strength of even the strongest shield can come down to how well it's attached to the superstructure of the ship. Sometimes kinetic weapons themselves don't appear to have advanced, either. Future weapons won't necessarily ''look'' more "advanced" or really be that different from modern ones: whether rounds are fired from a modern rifle or a space railgun, it still functions the same. Precise guides held by a solid external structure are still required to accelerate the projectile downrange to the target. Compare Rock Beats Laser, Boring, but Practical, Modern Stasis, Break Out the Museum Piece and Video Game Flamethrowers Suck. Usually goes hand in hand with Our Weapons Will Be Boxy in the Future. Contrast We Will Use Lasers in the Future, where energy weapons are more prevalent than kinetic weapons. For cases where certain specific kinetic weapons are preferred, see Revolvers Are Just Better or Shotguns Are Just Better. And if you're looking for the trope taken to its logical extreme, there's Ramming Always Works and the Colony Drop.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_110d4471	comment	The protagonists of both Predator and Predator 2 defeat plasma-toting, power-armored Predators with only guns and bows.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_124260b5	comment	Confederation of Valor: In Valor's Choice, the main protagonist is asked by a pacifist member of the Confederation (humans and two other species were recruited to do the fighting) why they use stretchers that need to be carried, rather than the local equivalent of anti-gravity. She responds that both they and "The Others" routinely attempt to disable all electronic devices used by their opponents, and they use hand-carried stretchers for the wounded for the same reason they use "primitive projectile weapons" that have to "be physically smashed to stop working".
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_12bc81c8	comment	Averted in Civilization: Call to Power and its sequel since weapon technology development continues past the first half of the 21st century. This eventually grants you access plasma and fusion-based weaponry.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_14d341dc	comment	In Star Trek Online, this is a major component of early space combat. Use your energy weapons to knock down shields then use kinetic weapons (photon torpedoes) to deliver the deathblows. Phasers will do around 100 damage to the hull of an enemy ship, a torpedo can easily go over 2000 damage. For ground combat, it is possible to obtain the TR-116b via crafting. It's a field ready model of the TR-116 prototype (without the micro transporter). The primary benefit of having one is to fight the Borg, because their remodulating shields won't protect them from tritanium bullets. There is also the Zefram Cochrane Shotgun, which is hard to obtain, but also fires conventional bullets.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1773eb11	comment	Subverted in Star Ruler. At the start, you only have kinetics, and early game energy weapons are power hogs that don't do much damage in return. As you research further, however, energy weapons become steadily more efficient, travelling at lightspeed means that they're near impossible to dodge, and you have Bottomless Magazines with them but not with kinetics, so a parity is eventually achieved. Once matter generators are discovered, kinetic weapons become infinite ammo as well. Ultimately, it is left up to the player as to whether or not kinetic weapons are just better. At this point, it will likely be a tie between the Muon Cannon, which ignores armor, and due to the high level of particle sciences required for a matter generator, very high damage, or the Plasma Cannon, which is higher damage due to the similar level of energy dynamics research required, but shorter range, and NOT armor piercing.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_17bfcf60	comment	Homeworld: Generally played straight in the first game, as directed-energy weapons are expensive, bulky and slow-firing compared to coilguns and particularly useless against fighters or corvettes. (However, those ion beams and plasma launchers of bombers are very effective against frigates and capital ships.) It slips a bit in semi-sequel Cataclysm, insofar as a gun that fires 'magnetic bottles' full of superheated gas counts as a directed-energy weapon, but returns in full force in Homeworld 2. However, in Cataclysm, Somtaaw engineers manage to develop an energy weapon system that specializes in destroying fighters and other small craft. Unfortunately, Somtaaw either doesn't share this technology or the Hiigarans promptly forget it since it isn't present in Homeworld 2.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_191e6909	comment	Memorably mentioned in SnarfQuest when a group of space-travellers from a medieval fantasy world posing as a rock band (It Makes Sense in Context) anger a group of space miners, resulting in a high-speed chase with both parties exchanging gunfire; while the miners aren't too worried about the heroes' lasers, when Snarf pulls out his .357 Magnum (that he once killed a dragon with), they start to panic because "lasers'll burn ya, but them slug-throwers will rip yer head off!". The matter becomes moot anyway after the team wizard hits the miners with a Lightning Bolt spell, but still...
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_19350db9	comment	Master of Orion: In the first game, while energy-based weapons don't have particular weaknesses, in their tech class, particle/ammo-based weapons halve the effectiveness of shields. A side effect of this is that projectile weapons take longer to become ineffective due to the onward march of technology. In Master of Orion II, both types have their advantages: artillery have fixed damage and always can get Auto Fire and Armor Piercing (also gives early Critical Hits) modifications while beam weapons have damage decreasing with range, but also special properties like extra destructive effects or Shield Piercing.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_19ce0c27	comment	Mazinger Angels' mechas' main weapons are missiles, and they are equipped with swords.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1a64c756	comment	Another example in Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny, where the Archangel and Minerva duel (again), during the ZAFT invasion of Orb. With both ships equipped with Laminate Armor, they could take several beam shots from each other with no damage. The Archangel eventually wins by abandoning the duel, going underwater, and sinking ZAFT submarines with its railguns, forcing the entire army to retreat.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1ab9ad1d	comment	The weapons used in Killzone are very little different from modern day weapons. Concept art detailing the history of the Killzone world has a present-day looking Humvee and a soldier is holding a M16 rifle. The former photo is set in the 22nd century, and the latter the 23rd.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1c34acd2	comment	Rocketship Voyager is ostensibly a 1950s Pulp Magazine story, but has this trope to give it a Retraux look (actually sci-fi stories of The '50s used either contemporary firearms or an 'atomic blaster'). UNRS Voyager has atomic torpedoes and multi-barreled autocannon, with the Space Marines armed with machine guns and (albeit nuclear-powered) flamethrowers. The only Ray Gun we see is a cumbersome crew-served weapon burdened with a radiation shield, liquid-helium cooling unit and portable atomic generator.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1cc09117	comment	The Espada of Bleach fire projectiles of spiritual energy called Bala. While not as powerful as the Cero energy blasts fired by all Hollows, Balas are 20 times faster and can be fired in rapid succession.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_1cc11947	comment	Descent: The vast majority of primary weapons are energy-based, but most secondary weapons are rockets, and Descent II's Gauss Cannon is regarded as a Game-Breaker for good reason, mostly damage and fire rate-partially because the kinetic primary weapons here are hitscan and the "lasers" are not. (Except the Omega Cannon, but its range is very short.) Same goes for Descent 3's Mass Driver, which functions much like a Quake railgun in hitscan, damage, and fire rate, with that last point balancing it out compared to the Gauss Cannon, now Nerfed into the weaker Vauss Cannon. To top it all off, the most feared Demonic Spiders in the series are Class 1 Drillers, which are equipped with Vulcan Cannons just like yours. That means they're the only enemy with hitscan weapons. Oh, Crap!. Also, Descent 3 has breakable glass. Only kinetic weapons can break glass. This is required to progress in certain levels. See where we're going with this?
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_230b3240	comment	Jack Ryan: The plot of The Cardinal of the Kremlin centers around the US and USSR developing strategic laser weapons and trying to steal the plans of their counterpart's systems from each other, but after that book, laser weapons are forgotten about. Eventually, in The Bear and the Dragon, the lead researcher of the US team reappears and mentions that they never succeeded in making a laser large enough to be useful. All militaries in the series use conventional weaponry when fighting each other.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_247422c7	comment	Honor Harrington: Semi-automatic pistols are traditionally used for duels on Manticore due to the fact that they are less lethal than pulsers. Pulsers themselves are miniature mass accelerators, using gravitic acceleration to fire physical rounds. Honor herself practices frequently with a (reproduction) Colt M1911A1 .45 automatic, simply because she enjoys the challenge of hitting a target with a weapon that doesn't do half the work with advanced sensors, etc. In one case this "saved the day", when she was able to sneak her .45 into a hostage situation because it had no electronics or energy cell that would trigger inboard sensors keyed to look for weapons that had both- like pulsers. While most ship-to-ship missiles come armed with some kind of warhead or electronic warfare suite, and the author has explicitly shot down the use of kinetic antiship attacks, countermissiles work by simply smashing their wedges into those of the attacking missiles at ludicrously high fractions of c. The Solarian League's Eridani Edict also expressly forbid kinetic strikes on populated planets, unless you hold the orbitals, because the destruction caused by the sheer velocity of the missile is so much greater than any payload it could carry. Averted in regard to final point-defense systems for Honorverse warships, where laser point defense clusters are vastly superior to autocannon in engaging any incoming missiles the ECM and countermissiles fail to intercept.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2594ce60	comment	Deus Ex: Invisible War still follows this trope, although it takes the Universal Ammunition route. This is hand waved by saying that the ammo is formed from nanites that form the type of ammo that is needed for the gun. The weapon itself contains the dedicated micro factory needed to configure the programmable matter.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_28191263	comment	UFO: After Blank: In Afterlight, Earth technology based projectile weapons have better stats than laser-based weapons and electricity-based weapons. And all other ranged weapon types become unwieldy heavy weapons in human hands. Your main opponents also use primarily projectile weapons, but tend towards Abnormal Ammo. However, like every other game in the series, the best weapon depends on the enemy: projectile weapons are either decent or great against most enemies, which is why they are universally favored, but lasers are exceptional against robots and enemies susceptible to fire, and plasma weapons are devastating to most enemies with shields (which are not designed to defend against plasma). More specialized weapons have more specific applications. In all three games, for example, warp weapons are murderous against armored foes and almost completely useless against unarmored foes (since there's not enough mass to warp). Martians, however, are highly resistant to bullet weapons, so if you've been favoring them for their extreme reliability, you're in for a bad time.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_283de314	comment	In The Gap Cycle, the Starfish Aliens Amnion have a "super-light proton cannon". According to Donaldson, it's "mass (in this case, protons) accelerated to the speed of light". The weapon is The Dreaded because there is no defense against its immense power.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2acb12c5	comment	X: The Mass Driver gatling gun allows you to destroy hulls of enemy ships by bypassing shields (and non-capital ships usually have weak hull ratings, relying almost completely on shields). They use almost no energy, and their projectiles travel at very decent speed. To finish it off, let's remember that any hull damage inflicted on a ship may result in loss of equipment (including weapons and cargo) and can inflict penalties on their speed. Its main downsides are that you need to buy ammo for it (whereas energy weapons are powered by your ship's reactor), and that it is strictly a fighter-size weapon; furthermore, fighter vessels usually do not have large enough cargo spaces to justify carrying the corresponding ammunition for the gun and the gun itself is only compatible with a few specific fighter craft (only Argon and Split fighter vessels can carry the gun, unfortunately). You can kill a capital ship with it through the shields, but it takes forever. On the other end of the weapon spectrum is the Gauss Cannon, an anticapital weapon that is described in fluff as a coilgun. While it doesn't bypass shields like the aforementioned Mass Driver, it does more hull damage than any other weapon in the game. It's also popular among players for the fact that it can be mounted on the flank turrets of the Teladi Shrike frigate, which lets it take on full-sized capital ships. Made even more awesome in X3: Albion Prelude, which buffed all hull strength values by an order of magnitude, making the Gauss Cannon's high hull damage even more useful. In general, ammo-using weapons are liked by some players because they allow ships to maintain a high rate of fire for longer since they don't draw on the ship's energy reserves (when they run out, ROF for energy weapons drops to about half, depending on the ship and weapon). On the flip side, other players prefer energy weapons because you don't have to stock ammunition, which in fleet-scale applications involves constructing an entire supply chain including factories; no Easy Logistics here. And when a kinetic weapon runs out of ammo, it stops firing entirely, whereas an energy weapon-armed ship with depleted energy reserves will keep firing at a reduced rate. Thus, ammo-based weapons are entirely not recommended for OOS combat.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2ae406c1	comment	Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, the "sequel" to Civilization 2, quickly does away with this trope, as Conventional weapons are too mundane.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2ba1d958	comment	The Matrix: The most advanced weapon in the real world is a handheld Lightning Gun, but almost all of the other weapons the rebels wield are either firearms or rocket-propelled munitions, much like those used within the titular simulation.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2c902ac1	comment	Space Rangers (1993) takes place in 2104, but rifles and other projectile weapons are still used in combat.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2d1fc03d	comment	There's also the secret experimental beam weapons in Front Mission 3. One is on an enemy mech, the other can be gotten through a secret code used on the in-game Internet. It does tremendous damage, but you won't be very skilled with it due to how late in the game you get it, and it's difficult to fire due to its high AP cost. Pretty, though.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2ef7cb74	comment	In Lyrical Nanoha, the TSAB places heavy restrictions on the use of mass-based weaponry. It is implied that this is due to the devastation caused by interplanetary warfare with such weapons in the Backstory, as well as because while all magical weapons are set to stun by default, the same can't be done with kinetic ones. It is worth noting that the fear is not of small arms, which even a B-ranker has little to fear from, but WMD. However, in the Darker and Edgier Force manga, in which magic has been proven completely useless against the new antagonists, we've had gunblades, rocket lanchers, miniguns, explosives and even giant recoilless rifles introduced.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2f1032e5	comment	Played to the hilt in Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans, in which, physical weapons, both melee and ordinance based, are the only type of weapon really seen used (unusually for the franchise). Beam weaponry doesn't even appear to exist in Post-Disaster technology at first, but as it turns out it isn't nonexistent, just mostly forgotten. The reason is implied to be partially that they are a power hog, which is why they only show up used by massive mobile armors with redundant power cores, and that the highly durable nanolaminate armor (which is already particularly resilient against solid ordinance) was developed in part to directly counter beam weaponry, as such even basic mobile suits are functionally immune. While that makes it seem to be useless in combat, the continuous burst fire still has higher destructive potential to anything not armored like civilian transports and settlements. The most destructive weapon in the setting is the DÃ¡insleif, a type of railcannon that fires large spears that can even pierce nanolaminate armor; it is so dangerous that its use is formally banned. They start popping up in the second season. The Gundam Floures is revealed to come standard with shoulder-mounted railguns for use against a mobile armor; Tekkadan didn't even realize what they had at first, as the warhead itself was different and in a legal grey area. Iok used that information and framed the Turbines for possession of such weapons and then used similar weapons against them. Iok's commander Rustal Elion did a similar version of the same plan during an Enemy Civil War with Tekkadan on the other side, having The Mole use such a weapon against them so they could justify deploying their own squadron armed with them. Shino attempts to use a DÃ¡insleif warhead in Gundam Floures in a failed attempt to take down Rustal's flagship. Much later in their Last Stand, the only thing that took out the remaining Gundams was another DÃ¡insleif barrage.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_2f4271ed	comment	The Night's Dawn Trilogy: Energy weapons of all kinds are not only available, but widespread. They're even available as nanonic implants under the skin. However, against the Possessed, electronics of all forms are horribly glitched at best, and completely shut down at worst. This means that the most effective weapon against them is a good old-fashioned chemical projectile weapon — a.k.a. a gun. Despite the plethora of energy weapons on display, the standard 'kill' weapon is a 'combat wasp'; which is essentially a missile that relies almost strictly on its kinetic force to do damage. Also, planet-busting weapons are all old-fashioned bombs, ground strikes from orbit with energy weapons being rarely seen.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_305faa76	comment	Zig-zagged in Spacetrawler. The laser-immune Bollyck pirates are taken down by Dmitri's bullet-firing handgun just fine. Qwahntoo, however, has a subcutaneous fluid layer that functions as a natural shock absorber, so he's more annoyed than hurt.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_31a85de	comment	In Heavy Metal L-Gaim, although characters rely on energy-powered weapons most of the time, this trope is played straight sometimes. In episode 12, Daba shoots his robot's laser rifle at another heavy metal, but it does nothing (due to the energy shield of the enemy mecha). Then he picks a normal bazooka, leaves his mecha and shoots his weapon at point-blank range, effectively cracking the robot's head.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_331e008	comment	In Borderlands, sooner or later, you will find an Eridian weapon, which shoots energy — but it soon becomes obvious that the Eridian weapons are Awesome, but Impractical, and even the "awesome" part is arguable at best. While they do shoot highly damaging bursts of energy, said bursts are slow, often blind the player, and are taxing on the gun's very slow-recharging ammo pool. On top of that, the only thing they work somewhat well against is the Guardians — and that's when we're talking about the Thunder Storm, the only reasonably useful gun of the pack. Last but not least, by the time you get these alien weapons, you'll have a fair amount of levels in the proficiency of the basic weapons, an advantage you won't get with the Eridian ones unless you're willing to go Level Grinding.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_331e009	comment	Inverted with E-tech guns in Borderlands 2. E-tech weapons use Eridium and Eridian technology to convert regular bullets into "stuff that ain't bullets" like laser beams, exploding balls of energy, plasma, or massive globs of elemental fluid. E-tech weaponry is with very few exceptions much more awesome and damaging than regular kinetic weaponry, with the caveats that they are extremely rare and consume twice the ammo. The main exception to this are the Spiker pistols, E-Tech pistols that fire bolts of energy that stick to enemies and explode some time after. They're powerful, but quite unwieldy to the point of being frustrating to use. Besides, if you want to focus on pistols, you do as everyone else does and grab a Jakobs.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_33dd1d8f	comment	Energy weapons are repeatedly shown to be horrifically powerful (the Tau Cannon and Gluon Gun in Half-Life, the former capable of destroying tanks and helicopters, and Combine Dark Energy weaponry in Half-Life 2 and its Episodes) and also the epitome of Awesome, but Impractical, requiring enormous amounts of radioactive fuel to function. As a result, while every faction (the player included) uses kinetic weapons almost exclusively, energy weapons are still used in situations that require a Bigger Stick and/or when the requisite fuel is readily available. This can be justified as the energy weapons being still in the experimental phase.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_35ada324	comment	Alien: In Aliens, the Colonial Marines are armed with caseless assault weapons, which have the distinctly energy-weapon sounding moniker "pulse rifles", though this refers to the electrical triggering system (as opposed to mechanical pin-and-primer in normal guns) for its caseless ammunition (a technique used by modern experimental weapons such as the H&K G11). In the expanded universe, the novelization of Aliens and the Colonial Marines handbook state that man-portable plasma cannons exist — and with good reason, since nothing a Marine can hold will rip apart tank armour faster than the PIG plasma weapon. Unfortunately, it's also extremely heavy and the rocket launcher of the day is much lighter, guided and more than adequate at killing tanks in one shot. The PIG is the only energy weapon that Marines can carry. Electron lasers and particle beam weapons are so energy-intensive that they can only be mounted on vehicles, and the laser in particular has its range and firepower greatly affected by atmosphere and weather conditions. In outer space, energy weapons are more used for destroying projectiles. They have a massive accuracy and speed advantage over kinetic-kill vehicles and heavy missiles, but they do a lot less damage and space ships have armour and maneuvers that greatly reduce the effect of energy weapons (pilots are trained to move ships so that energy attacks don't concentrate on one spot for long and ship armour has ablative material that explodes out in a cloud of foam and metallic dust that further dissipates the energy).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_36ee2abe	comment	In Paranoia, lowly Red-clearance Troubleshooters (just one rank above the dumb masses who work in the food vats) are typically outfitted with lasers and reflec armor (shiny stuff that kinda sorta reflects lasers), while slugthrowers and kevlar are restricted to somewhat higher clearances. That said, lasers and standard slugthrower bullets do the same amount of damage to an unarmored target.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_3afdbbc0	comment	The Dirigent Mercenary Corps series does have hand-held energy weapons, which are useful in specific applications because they're basically silent. However, the primary weapons used are chemical firearms.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_3b4316b6	comment	Front Mission: The only instance of energy weapons are from orbital lasers and in 4 where laser weapons were developed at last. Most of the time however, Wanzers relied on smoothbore guns, grenade launchers, antitank rifles and autocannons. The Siege Rifle is essentially a giant railgun for Wanzer use. There's also the secret experimental beam weapons in Front Mission 3. One is on an enemy mech, the other can be gotten through a secret code used on the in-game Internet. It does tremendous damage, but you won't be very skilled with it due to how late in the game you get it, and it's difficult to fire due to its high AP cost. Pretty, though.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_3b7abee2	comment	The Half-Life series simultaneously plays this trope straight and averts it while providing justifications for both. Energy weapons are repeatedly shown to be horrifically powerful (the Tau Cannon and Gluon Gun in Half-Life, the former capable of destroying tanks and helicopters, and Combine Dark Energy weaponry in Half-Life 2 and its Episodes) and also the epitome of Awesome, but Impractical, requiring enormous amounts of radioactive fuel to function. As a result, while every faction (the player included) uses kinetic weapons almost exclusively, energy weapons are still used in situations that require a Bigger Stick and/or when the requisite fuel is readily available. This can be justified as the energy weapons being still in the experimental phase. The Gravity Gun manages to count as both. On the one hand, it's plainly an energy weapon (a zero point energy-powered weapon in fact); on the other hand, its "ammo" is decidedly material. It also averts the drawback energy weapons had in the first game by requiring no external power whatsoever, due to an extradimensional crystal.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_3cb580c	comment	Space Empires, having both types, has this in a way. Most energy weapons have the advantage of not requiring ordnance to be built into the ship, only supply (which is essential for any ship). However, the damage potential for energy weapons falls away as the target is more distant. Projectiles and missiles, however, do not, always dealing the same range of damage when they hit, no matter how far away the target is (provided they're not beyond the weapon's Arbitrary Weapon Range).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_3cf15492	comment	MechWarrior, like its BattleTech source material, has lasers, missiles, and kinetic projectile weapons all co-existing and being fairly balanced with respect to each other. Lasers are easier to use as they're lightweigh, hitscan, and have infinite ammo, but cannot hope to match ballistic weapons in pure damage. Kinetic weapons in Mechwarrior Living Legends are particularly horrifying to fight at both close and long range; while lasers require the gunner to keep the beam on target, Gauss Rifle slugs smash through armor with no warning and can deal catastrophic damage. Autocannons and Ultra Autocannons cleave through torso armor at alarming speed. LB-X shotguns swat Space Planes and Battle Armor out of the sky. The most powerful "gun" is kinetic — the Long Tom Artillery Piece, a 30+ ton high explosive cannon carried by only a single tank, which is so massive that it requires the tank to deploy anchors in order to fire, and has a range long enough gib battlemech from close to two kilometers away, requiring a Target Spotter.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4147e1ed	comment	The Anglo/American â€“ Nazi War: After the titular war has ended, the Atomic Four (A4), an alliance made of America, Canada, the UK, and Australia, begins building mass-drivers and eventually construct a kinetic bombardment weapon system on the moon. This is put to use to stop a pro-German unification insurgency in Stettin using three kinetic strikes, each with an equivalent yield to 57.5 kilotons. Most of Stettin and its 275,000 citizens are wiped out and the insurgency collapses.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_41b0198a	comment	Oddly enough, this applies to spells in The Dresden Files if the target has magic immunity. Take the Genoskwa, for example. Throw a freezing spell capable of crystallysing an ogre at it? Grounded. Force magic? No-Sell. Stone-hard, watermelon-sized ice cannonballs propelled by force magic? Those hurt. Also, if the wizard's powers are weak, or is trying to kill other humans without violating the First Law of Magic, they'd better use a gun in a battle.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_42c1d7f7	comment	Played with in The Occupation Saga. The Shil'vati military prefers laser weapons and their battle armor is impenetrable to firearms (it's flexible but stiffens when struck), but railguns are also relatively common weapons: they require less power to fire and can be just as effective. The armor also doesn't react to slower-moving objects: Shil'vati have apparently been killed in skirmishes by human resistance fighters with lower-tech weapons like bows and arrows.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_43a9c333	comment	In Cowboy Bebop, combat has switched from aircraft to starships, but most of it is still done with good old-fashioned machine guns and pistols. Energy weapons exist, but are implied to be rare and hard to get, as the only one we really see is the large energy cannon on Spike's ship, the Swordfish II. They also seem to be very difficult to control; whenever Spike fires the energy cannon, it causes the ship to recoil and waggle slightly from the sheer power.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4505668c	comment	In The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress, the Lunar rebels 'throw rocks' (i.e., 100-tonne boulders, jacketed in steel and fired out of a magnetic catapult) down Earth's gravity well. It proves very effective. Cheap, too.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_45854dfc	comment	Zig-zagged in the movie. The Mobile Infantry use conventional gunpowder-based firearms as well as shotguns, grenades and the aforementioned tactical nukes. The standard-issue Morita rifle fires a high-caliber round that can punch through two inches of titanium and blow limbs clean off an Arachnid, but this means little because the Arachnids Feel No Pain and have no self-preservation; a trooper could empty an entire magazine into one, and the high power of the round makes aiming in full-auto extremely difficult, an issue compounded by the fact the Morita even lacks basic iron sights. Later on, the Federation scientists figure out that an Arachnid can be put down in one careful shot aimed at a specific nerve cluster, and troopers seem to take on the advice. The Arachnids use nothing more than fangs and mandibles, but there is a specialised creature at the Battle of Klendathu that fires bio-plasma, which devastates the orbiting Federation landing ships.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_46076f2a	comment	The Buff Clan in Space Runaway Ideon uses simple iron rods propelled to an almost-speed of light to bombard human-controlled planets. As you may imagine, not much is left of said planets afterwards.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_468bebb0	comment	Discworld: A Wizard might be able to lob a fireball with the power level of a small nuclear device, but would probably fall over unconscious from the effort. Meanwhile, Sergeant Detritus of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch would be loading up for his fourth shot with the Piece Maker, a converted siege ballista he handles as easily as a human handles a regular crossbow. Piece Maker, however, fires a huge bundle of arrows... which usually break apart and catch fire when fired. It is very effective at removing the front door of a house... and the back door... at the same time... and both door frames... and a large portion of the surrounding walls.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_469b635d	comment	Both sides of this are looked at in Consider Phlebas. One operation turns into a farce when laser weapons are deployed in a confined environment where the architecture is built of crystalline blocks that can act as prisms, but a later rapid-firing railgun crashed when each round it fired exploded on impact with the blast of the round before it exploding: the chain of explosions zipped back along the line of fire and caused the whole gun to blow up in the operator's hands.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4937d0d9	comment	Sins of a Solar Empire features the TEC faction, the games obligatory "normals". The Advent (psionic humans) and the Vasari (evil aliens) use a variety of plasma, phase, and laser weaponry, but the main gun of many TEC ships is the autocannon. More Dakka ensues.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4b05e333	comment	Red Fire, Red Planet: The "strike package" that Norigom came up with to attack the shipyard, a ten ton block of uranium-238 with a crude chemical thruster and radar guidance (to make minor course corrections), dropped from the cargo bay of a Bird-of-Prey at 25,000 km/s. It apparently obliterates the shipyard control center and part of it keeps going to hit the planet. Norigom apparently did the same thing to the IKS HoSbegh during the Klingon-Gorn War, and sums it up quite well:
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4ce5263e	comment	Enemy Unknown has a linear progression of weapons where ballistics are weaker than lasers, which is weaker than plasma. But it's not all black and white: The arguably best weapon in the game is the Alloy Cannon, a plasma-tier shotgun that launches shards of alien alloys (the stuff your endgame armor is made of) as pellets out of what's essentially a portable railgun. Its damage potential is only beaten by MEC weaponry. Enemy Within adds the MEC Troopers, whose Kinetic Strike Module subsystem (a rocket-powered fist mounted on the armor) will kill everything in the mid-game with its raw 12-damage output. It only falls short of Elite Mooks at full health, and even then you have options: the Foundry project "MEC Close Combat" increases damage to 18 (and a bug from completing a campaign means it'll start at 18 in subsequent campaigns and go up to 27 with MEC Close Combat), and if the MEC starts the turn beside an enemy, which happens often with dumber melee-only aliens like Chryssalids and Berserkers, they can use both actions for punching aliens into paste. Especially notorious when the most viable tactic is running up to the end-game psychic enemies (that are nearly immune to everything and have the strongest psionic attacks) after softening them up and going for an organ-liquefying uppercut; in addition to that, Kinetic Strike Module + Electro Pulse absolutely mulches Sectopods, the most dangerous enemy in the game bar none. On a lesser note, it also has good utility value even if you don't use the KSM: simply having it on the MEC increases mobility by 3 tiles in regular movement, or 6 tiles when dashing, just like the Support's Sprinter skill. If the "Damage Roulette" Second Wave option is enabled, regular weapon damage ranges between 150% of the base damage and a measly 1. Critical Hits work differently, too: instead of a 40-50% damage buff to an attack, a crit deals the weapon's base damage plus whatever damage was rolled by the shot, so it's more consistently powerful. Where the trope really kicks in is with the availability of Reaper Rounds, a special ammo type equipped as an items that raises critical chance by 20%, at the expense that any range penalties the weapon has are doubled (so trying to snipe with the Short-Range Shotgun or using the Sniper Rifle as a Short-Range Long-Range Weapon is an even bigger no-no; assault rifles and the Heavy's LMG are unaffected). With Reaper Rounds and the right tactics, your ballistic arsenal is just as practical as lasers for all troops outside of Squadsight Snipers, who can't deal crits at all from outside their own visual range unless they use Headshot, which has a one turn cooldown.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4ce969a9	comment	Marathon and its sequels have a fusion pistol which does bonus damage against cybernetic enemies, however every other firearm in the game is a kinetic weapon and each in turn has benefits of their own, not least of which being the far more plentiful ammunition pickups for the (kinetic) pistol and assault rifle.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4d6b8984	comment	The novel Mass Effect: Annihilation shows more plasma small arms in the form of some back-mounted plasma cannons used by the elcor. They still mostly prefer bullets.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_4ff41a9c	comment	In Origins, the Applied Phlebotinum used to make turbolasers and other Star Wars tech work is more like Unobtanium in most galaxies, so if you want your ship to have any staying power, you can't really use those technologies, which requires a fallback to physical weaponry whose principles are universal across civilizations.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5349c7a5	comment	This trope is the name of the game for Ballistic Weapons. The backstory involves a war between humanity and an alien race known as the Skrith who used energy shields that completely nullified humanity's energy-based weaponry. In desperation, humanity then took their old kinetic-based weapons out of storage and promptly discovered that the Skrith's energy shields did nothing to stop physical projectiles hitting them around 900 meters per second, allowing them to turn the tide back in their favor. This is further exemplified in the actual gameplay of the mod, as the energy weapons tend to do more damage and have several other unique attributes, but they're much rarer and harder to use effectively between their flashy lights and all either firing Painfully Slow Projectiles or some sort of continuous beam with a short reach; in comparison, the ballistic weapons are much simpler, all having set ranges and uses where they're most useful, but being incredibly efficient at making things dead within that limit.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_55c5a085	comment	Mazinger Z uses Eye Beams. Photon Beam is the weapon Kouji uses more times, and many Mechanical Beast are equipped with laser beams. However, Mazinger Z also uses missiles, and so do most of the Mechanical Beasts. Dr. Hell is more than capable of building beam weapons for his troops, but his minions hardly ever use them. His Co-Dragons and Mooks prefer guns or machine guns that shoot bullets.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_56fa0ea4	comment	Civilization: You can go into the far future in the base game yearwise, but weapons technology (and technology in general, save for the space-related tech and the ambiguous "Future Tech") will never go past modern era. Averted in Civilization: Call to Power and its sequel since weapon technology development continues past the first half of the 21st century. This eventually grants you access plasma and fusion-based weaponry. Similarly, the Beyond the Sword expansion featured a near-future scenario, with the option of adding some of this technology into the later end of a normal game. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, the "sequel" to Civilization 2, quickly does away with this trope, as Conventional weapons are too mundane. V also eventually averts this; the Giant Death Robot carries Eye Beams and Brave New World introduces the plasma-toting XCOM Squad.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_59da62aa	comment	Fallout: New Vegas works more to put energy weapons and regular guns on equal footing, as it has perks and several high-tier energy weapons that are among the best guns in the game. Even default energy weapons will often have a Damage Threshold reduction effect, which means that they do more of their full damage to heavily armoured targets such as robots or deathclaws. The only serious problem you may encounter when using energy weapons is that both guns and ammunition are uncommon and expensive.note The ammo problem can be lessened by recycling spent ammo (4:1 for each ammo type) and the "Vigilant Recycler" perk can lighten the ammo strain by giving you twice as much ammo for every drained cell, lowering the cost to recycle (e.g., 3 energy cells for 1), and allowing you to recycle them into "Optimized" ammo which is all around beter. The Laser RCW also has a recycler mod that ignores the cost of every fourth shot of the rare Electron Charge Pack batteries.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5bfa9c98	comment	Warframe: During the Old War, the Orokin originally tried using their blindingly advanced weapons to fight against the Sentients. But since the Sentients were themselves the most advanced Orokin technology, they were easily able to subvert these weapons, forcing the Orokin to rely on low-tech weapons. It says something about how advanced the Orokin were that they didn't see much difference in the technology level of a bow and a gun. The Orokin eventually created the warframes and the Tenno to wield these weapons, so even after the Old War the Tenno still mostly use low-tech. The primary exceptions are repurposed Corpus mining lasers. The Grineer fall into this trope, but not out of choice; they just don't have the technology to reliably produce Energy Weapons (although a couple of their attempts have fallen into Tenno hands on occasion) on the massive scale of most of their other technology. Of course, it doesn't seem to hinder them much, since some of the nastiest weapons in the game, such as the Hek, Brakk shotgun pistol, Sobek autoshotgun, and the Marelok, are of Grineer origin.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5c897f4a	comment	Schlock Mercenary: This strip has an explanation for why, in addition to energy weapons like Schlock's plasma cannons, ammo-based pistols are so common. A few days later, it also addresses the damage potential of "cee-sabot" weapons, large kinetic weapons traveling at relativistic speeds. RKVs (Relativistic Kill Vehicles) also turn up later in the story.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5cb7fc72	comment	Standard Weapons in System Shock 2 are superior in most respects to weapons falling under other categories such as Energy, Heavy, or Exotic. Whichever character class you start off with, you will almost certainly be using a Wrench, which counts as a Standard Weapon in terms of damage but does not have any skill requirements. Unlike other weapon categories, every single Standard Weapon is highly useful: the Pistol, Shotgun, and Assault Rifle are all powerful and versatile weapons that are capable of handling a wide variety of opponents, especially with specialized anti-armour or anti-personnel bullets. All of them use ammunition that is widely available and, with the exception of the Assault Rifle, have comparatively low requirements for their use. Two of the three classes start off with level 1 Standard Weapons by default (which they can then raise to level 3 with one of the prologue assignments). Unless following a specific play style by choice, it's pretty hard to justify not choosing one of the Standard Weapons as your primary weapon.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5cdad167	comment	Minority Report: The weapons used are pretty much just like weapons today. The most advanced weapon is a concussion gun of sorts, that's only used in the car factory sequence. Slightly confusing the issue is that fact that the concussion gun appears to be a non-lethal weapon (designed only to knock the target down); if so, the trope is true only provided that you're trying to kill someone — if you want to avoid killing them, the concussion gun is a better bet.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_5cdd252	comment	The Killing Star shows how destructive the liberal application of kinetic energy can be when a barrage of solid matter accelerated to near light speed is used to destroy all advanced life on Earth. They are appropriately called relativistic bombs.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_61c6b600	comment	Star Trek: First Contact: Picard lures a couple of Borg drones into the Holodeck, and shoots them with a tommy gun (though whether or not a Holodeck tommy gun with the safeties off is a real gun or merely a forcefield simulation of one is up for debate because the evidence is inconsistent and points both ways. Though notably, he only kills two drones with it, and the number of drones you can kill with a phaser before they adapt is about three.). The idea of physical objects being useful against them is supported in the visual effect of the Borg adapting to weapons fire. The series had what looked like an actual shield pop up and the phaser shot doing no damage. Starting with this movie the phaser blast seems to be dissipated into the full body of the drone, which suggests that it isn't a personal shield but the actual body armor of the drone allowing it to absorb energy. This makes projectile weapons logical. Data kills multiple Drones with his bare hands, and Worf kills some by smashing them with his gun or with a knife. However, they are both extremely strong which seems to make the difference. The one human Red Shirt who attempts to Phaser-butt a drone gets his ass handed to him in short order (though it's worth noting that he hits the drone in the chest whereas Worf goes for the neck/head, which may make the difference). Another officer balks at the idea of hand-to-hand combat, clearly aware that such an attempt would fail horribly. Unless you can shut down the drone in one hit, you have no real chance in a prolonged fight; they're super-strong zombies with assimilation tubes, and if they grab you, you join them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_63d6117a	comment	It's implied in The Songs of Distant Earth that firearms remained in use even up to the planet's destruction thousands of years in the future.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6735bbf3	comment	The shot lancer in Gundam F91 is a lance weapon with pile-driver spearhead, specifically designed to provide the one-shot-one-kill power of a beam rifle while limiting collateral damage in a colony attack. They are used to devastating effect throughout the movie.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_67b692cc	comment	Battlefield 2142: Aside from the floating Titans, the other air vehicles, hover tanks, speeders (for the PAC at least), the Goliath, the anti-ground vehicle and anti-aircraft emplacements, and gadgets you could unlock, the EU guns still sling lead. (The PAC technically uses plasma weapons, but for all intents, it still functions like a bullet because it requires a delivery system to hold the plasma energy.) Hell, the side arm for the EU is a revolver which has a speedloader cylinder. The developers stated in interviews that a gun firing bullets "felt more real to them" than just "pew pew you're dead".
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_68b8bdfe	comment	UFO Defense has a linear progression in which Ballistic Weapons are outclassed by absolutely everything else in the game.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_69085a0	comment	In Macross, the majority of Valkyries in the earlier series rely on gatling gunpods to deliver More Dakka, though beam weapons have also become fairly common (at least among more elite units) by the time of Macross Delta. For a fire-rate comparison in Macross Frontier: The VF-27 (which uses a beam gunpod) and the VF-25 (which uses a 57mm kinetic shell gunpod) appear to have identical rates of fire, based on their tracers... but then again the standard mixes of tracer to live ammo are 1:5, 1:7, and 1:10. Caseless guns are used by both humans and Zentraedi despite more advanced beam weapons being common, explained by the Zentraedi having been kept back by the Precursors who made them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_69daf29	comment	Discussed in Grrl Power. Halo and Maxima may be strong enough to blow up buildings just by pointing at them, but no civilian is going to be intimidated by having a finger (or a shiny orb) pointed at them. A gun, on the other hand, gives a pretty clear message.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6a307d4	comment	Despite the futuristic setting of Titanfall, there are only three energy weapons present, two of which are so massive that they have to be used by Titans. Old-fashioned machine guns and (futuristic) rocket launchers are still used by pilots and Titans alike. Hell, with the exception of the revolver, the sidearms barely look different from what you might find today. The sequel backs off from this slightly; there are a few more energy weapons in the game (most of them man-portable), and one Titan with an almost all-energy loadout and the Catch and Return shield that makes it a tough opponent for the other projectile-using Titans in the right hands. Although one of those other Titans is an equally strong contender for best Titan in the game.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6a4bddd6	comment	Iron Man: The reason why Tony Stark created the Variable Threat Response Suit (better known as the original War Machine Armor) is that against the Masters of Silence's energy weapons are useless, but the slugs of normal firearms work just fine.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6ac55ec7	comment	Dungeons & Dragons: One published campaign for AD&D took the Greyhawk setting centuries into the future where Magitek made the world look more like the 20th century instead of quasi-medieval (dragons vs fighter jets!). Combat weapons were projectile-throwers that looked like guns, but instead of using a propellant operated via a combination of magic and science. When the weapon was fired, the gun used a spell that teleported the bullet into the vicinity of the sun and allowed it to fall for an hour or so, gaining very high velocity from gravitational acceleration. An instant after using the teleport spell, the gun used another teleport spell that pulled the bullet backwards in time so it reappeared the instant after it left, but now carrying very high velocity from its hour-long freefall.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6b6d989e	comment	Red Faction is set in 2158 and on Mars, but weapons are pretty much the same, not including the fusion launcher.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6bbde1c8	comment	Overwatch zig-zags this trope. Some of the heroes use energy weapons, other use bullets, and a few use other kinetic weapons. Most of the energy weapons are slow moving projectiles that can be dodged, while most of the kinetic weapons are hitscan and have instant travel time so can't be dodged. There are exceptions on both sides. D.Va's fusion cannons and Winston's Lighting Guns are hitscan weapons, while Junkrat's Grenades and Genji's Shuriken are slow projectiles. However, Bastion plays it straight, as his bullet-based Gatling Good does the highest damage per second of any weapon in the game.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6c1d09b2	comment	In Fallout 2, the Salvatore gang in New Reno is widely known and feared for its exclusive use of Enclave energy. In-game, NPCs claim that one thug with a simple laser pistol could wipe out an entire squad armed with regular weapons. Quite the opposite in actual gameplay, asearly energy weapons do barely any damage and are almost completely ineffective against metal armor. This is evident, for example, if you start a gunfight in the Salvatores' bar: the thugs with laser pistols will do almost no damage to you, while the bartender with ye olde double-barreled shotgun does 20 times more damage than them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6c1d09b3	comment	Fallout 3 (without expansion packs at least) plays this trope much straighter than the previous games. Small arms are better than laser weapons, and even the late-game plasma weapons aren't a big improvement, have much more common ammo, and have a huge selection of weapons from short, ranged devastators like combat shotguns to long ranged sniper rifles. The unique alien raygun is good, but so are many unique small arms like the Lincoln's repeater. However, as the game progresses, this trope is averted. Plasma weapons become more available as does their ammunition. If the PC acquires A3-21's Plasma Rifle this weapon is easily a match for the damage and effectiveness of any conventional firearm. Also if expansion packs come into play the Metal Blaster Laser Rifle is a match for the most powerful shotguns. The alien Destabilizer, MPLX Novasurge Plasma Pistol, Microwave Emitter, and Tri-Beam Laser Rifle are also very powerful energy weapons. Ultimately though, the best "energy weapon" is probably the Gauss Rifle, which as the name indicates, is actually a kinetic weapon that fires 2mm slugs with electromagnetism.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6c1d09b4	comment	In Fallout 4, many radiation and energy weapons, namely the Gamma Gun and Gauss Rifle, will appear to have massive damage, but so many enemies are resistant to those damage types and their resistances are so high that there's little point. Radiation damage, for instance, is wholly ineffective against robots, ghouls (sentient and feral), super mutants, animals, and humans in power armor; combined, these make up about 70% of the baddies you'll be dealing with. They also tend not to benefit from sneak bonuses to base damage and crit, as most weapons of these types cannot be modified with silencers. Bullets, however? Nothing in the game has full immunity to those.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_6e0e351	comment	Played with in Escape Velocity Override: you are very likely to develop this impression if you watch UE-Voinian battles (with the rocket-heavy human fleets tending to devastate the energy weapon-focusing Voinians), or discover the Emalgha (whose mass drivers chew through Voinian ships, hampered mainly by Emalgha ships being pretty poor due to their resource depletion)... but as you explore more of the galaxy, it becomes clear that energy weapons have advantages of their own, and the previous impression was because the game is balanced so that the Voinian design paradigm (slow, lumbering heavily armoured ships relying primarily on relatively slow-firing but powerful energy weapons) is countered by the UE design paradigm (fairly nimble rocket-heavy ships and with significant fighter usage) and relies specifically on what Emalgha mass drivers are good against (mass drivers are absolutely terrible against shields, and chews through armour like nothing else. Since Voinians have weak shields, strong armour and tend to be easy to hit...).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_70814599	comment	Stargate SG-1: Even though the humans of Earth have access to tons of alien technology, modern-day weapons are still used for ground combat. Justified since it has been shown that firearms were often more effective than their energy counterparts, particularly when used against the Replicators. Additionally, in the case of the Goa'uld, their weapons were designed for subjugation rather than combat effectiveness, as O'Neill's often-quoted line below shows. So much so that, in later seasons, even Teal'c largely abandons his own Staff weapon in favor of dual-wielding the standard-issue P90. In one episode, Thor specifically uses bullets as an example of the human race's outside-the-box thinking. Asgard are so intelligent, their first instinct when faced with an unforeseen problem is to build a hyper-complex gadget — this means they can be caught flat-footed when the best solution is simply to get a hammer and swing it. Averted in ship-to-ship combat. Rail guns are, at best, useful as point-defense and anti-fighter weapons, and Tau'ri ships are seriously outgunned until they got the extremely powerful Asgard plasma beam cannons. The nukes are kept, too, because there's always something that needs to be nuked. The reason railguns seem weak in Stargate Atlantis is probably that the targets they are used against are freaking humongous. Those hives do pack some bulk, after all. Not to mention that they have a great deal of experience fighting the Ancients and their vastly superior kinetic kill weapons. Played straight by the Ancients. After going through energy weapons in all sizes, powered by all kinds of things (another dimension, for example...) they still arrived at remotely controlled drones that simply fly very fast and punch holes in their targets (albeit with the help of their weaponized force fields). Partially averted in later seasons once the SGC has presumably gathered a significant stockpile of Zat'nik'tel. Though they don't appear to ever become the official SGC sidearm, SG-1 seems to carry Zats in hip holsters frequently rather than waiting to salvage them off Jaffa mooks. They're just that useful. Likewise, Wraith stunner pistols fill the same niche. Also averted by Ronon's Traveler gun. An energy pistol in the shape of a hand cannon, it is easily superior to Tau'ri firearms and several characters express appreciation for just how effective it is.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_71e42e05	comment	Starship Troopers: Mostly averted in the novel, as kinetic weapons are widely used for training, but rarely for the actual combat. The Mobile Infantry instead prefer to use conventional explosives, huge flamethrowers, and miniature tactical nukes, all of which we see used in the first few pages of the book alone. The Pseudo-Arachnids, who do use beam weaponry, are notably inferior to the Mobile Infantry on a 1v1 basis. Zig-zagged in the movie. The Mobile Infantry use conventional gunpowder-based firearms as well as shotguns, grenades and the aforementioned tactical nukes. The standard-issue Morita rifle fires a high-caliber round that can punch through two inches of titanium and blow limbs clean off an Arachnid, but this means little because the Arachnids Feel No Pain and have no self-preservation; a trooper could empty an entire magazine into one, and the high power of the round makes aiming in full-auto extremely difficult, an issue compounded by the fact the Morita even lacks basic iron sights. Later on, the Federation scientists figure out that an Arachnid can be put down in one careful shot aimed at a specific nerve cluster, and troopers seem to take on the advice. The Arachnids use nothing more than fangs and mandibles, but there is a specialised creature at the Battle of Klendathu that fires bio-plasma, which devastates the orbiting Federation landing ships.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7237840b	comment	In Darkest of Days, future weapons are just BFGs. Interestingly, the sniper rifles from historical wars are more accurate than the future gun, which is affected by wind and gravity, but historical rifles aren't.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_72f3e556	comment	Both subverted and played straight in Arrivals from the Dark. In the first novel, an entire human fleet armed with kinetic, plasma, and missile weapons is annihilated (literally) by an alien starship armed with anti-matter cannons and equipped with Deflector Shields. In the third novel, human mercenaries working for a different alien race are given patrol ships armed with kinetic weapons that are somehow able to ignore shields on enemy ships. These are shown to be extremely effective.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_73b74949	comment	Borderlands: In Borderlands, sooner or later, you will find an Eridian weapon, which shoots energy — but it soon becomes obvious that the Eridian weapons are Awesome, but Impractical, and even the "awesome" part is arguable at best. While they do shoot highly damaging bursts of energy, said bursts are slow, often blind the player, and are taxing on the gun's very slow-recharging ammo pool. On top of that, the only thing they work somewhat well against is the Guardians — and that's when we're talking about the Thunder Storm, the only reasonably useful gun of the pack. Last but not least, by the time you get these alien weapons, you'll have a fair amount of levels in the proficiency of the basic weapons, an advantage you won't get with the Eridian ones unless you're willing to go Level Grinding. Inverted with E-tech guns in Borderlands 2. E-tech weapons use Eridium and Eridian technology to convert regular bullets into "stuff that ain't bullets" like laser beams, exploding balls of energy, plasma, or massive globs of elemental fluid. E-tech weaponry is with very few exceptions much more awesome and damaging than regular kinetic weaponry, with the caveats that they are extremely rare and consume twice the ammo. The main exception to this are the Spiker pistols, E-Tech pistols that fire bolts of energy that stick to enemies and explode some time after. They're powerful, but quite unwieldy to the point of being frustrating to use. Besides, if you want to focus on pistols, you do as everyone else does and grab a Jakobs. Averted in Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel!. They're just... other options, and stand on roughly equal footing as the game's mostly kinetic arsenal (heck, some of the best Game-Breaker items are lasers). However, it is played straight in universe, as Mr. Torgue of Torgue fame hates them with a passion and considers them an insult towards his explosions. A number of missions have you destroying laser weapons for him, and it is implied this is one of the many reasons lasers aren't around for Borderlands 2.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_73d7930f	comment	From the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine novels: In Fallen Heroes, the invading Bekkir have body armor that renders them immune to phasers, so O'Brien rigs them into grenades. Dax discovers that their armor isn't Immune to Bullets, so she replicates a machine gun. A Klingon machine gun. In one novel, Worf is with a detachment of Klingons trying to breach a heavily shielded base. They can't get through with their normal weapons, so Worf replicates a catapult and smashes the outer walls to pieces.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_74d9ff59	comment	Spectre (1991), though set in an explicitly virtual environment, uses projectile weapons on all characters (including the player) that shoot.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7559ae0b	comment	Dune: In Legends of Dune, both the Thinking Machines and the League of Nobles (and later the Butlerian Jihad) almost exclusively use kinetic weapons, bombs, and missiles for aerial, space, and ground combats. While it is revealed that lasguns were popular during the days of the Old Empire, they didn't have the destructive capability of kinetic weapons. Plasma bombs are mentioned to be used occasionally by the cymeks, but those cases are rare. Thousands of years later, both types of weapons were phased out due to the invention and widespread use of Holtzman shields, which could stop any physical object moving above a certain speed and created a nuclear explosion when hit with a laser beam. However, on Arrakis, shields have a tendency to attract worms, so the native Fremen use spring-loaded dart guns in addition to their more famous crysknives. At one point, the Harkonnens used artillery against survivors of the attack on the Atreides complex who had holed up in caves, without being able to bring the large household shield generators. The attack is noted as extremely demoralizing specifically because in modern combat, the role fulfilled by artillery is obsolete; no artillery does any good against shields. This is why the Baron has the artillery pieces immediately dismantled after their one use, despite his nephew Rabban begging him to let him keep them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_755b343f	comment	Halo plays it straight and subverts it with the Forerunners - while they do use a myriad of energy weapons, the arsenal their Promethean forces utilize is almost entirely composed of weapons that still use bullets, albeit ones made from Hard Light.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7668653a	comment	Mass Effect 2 also features an exposÃ© on kinetic weapons by an ornery drill sergeant bringing a couple of cadets up to speed on coil guns. 20kg of solid metal flung at 1.3% of the speed of light impacts with a force of 38kt, and due to the lack of friction in space, should one happen to miss their target, it's certain to ruin someone's day somewhere, sometime. More importantly, while a nuclear explosion spreads out as a sphere, that 38 kilotons is entirely focused on tiny slug no more than a few dozen centimeters in surface area, coming out to hundreds of kilotons per square meter or thousands of times more intense than an equivalent energy nuclear detonation at near point blank. Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space!
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7668653b	comment	In the Citadel DLC for Mass Effect 3, you can get your hands on an assault rifle from Mass Effect 1 that uses the first game's cooldown mechanic (i.e., no heat sinks) yet has been modified to pack a punch of modern (i.e., ME3 standards) weapons by a "master weaponsmith". Thus, you have a weapon with virtually unlimited ammo but can't fire it in long bursts.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_76b8cb10	comment	The Fallout series gives the player access to energy weapons, but kinetics are often the weapon of choice, especially for starting off — and there's a wide choice, from hand-thrown spears to the electromagnetic minigun (Fallout Tactics). In Fallout 2, the Salvatore gang in New Reno is widely known and feared for its exclusive use of Enclave energy. In-game, NPCs claim that one thug with a simple laser pistol could wipe out an entire squad armed with regular weapons. Quite the opposite in actual gameplay, asearly energy weapons do barely any damage and are almost completely ineffective against metal armor. This is evident, for example, if you start a gunfight in the Salvatores' bar: the thugs with laser pistols will do almost no damage to you, while the bartender with ye olde double-barreled shotgun does 20 times more damage than them. Fallout 3 (without expansion packs at least) plays this trope much straighter than the previous games. Small arms are better than laser weapons, and even the late-game plasma weapons aren't a big improvement, have much more common ammo, and have a huge selection of weapons from short, ranged devastators like combat shotguns to long ranged sniper rifles. The unique alien raygun is good, but so are many unique small arms like the Lincoln's repeater. However, as the game progresses, this trope is averted. Plasma weapons become more available as does their ammunition. If the PC acquires A3-21's Plasma Rifle this weapon is easily a match for the damage and effectiveness of any conventional firearm. Also if expansion packs come into play the Metal Blaster Laser Rifle is a match for the most powerful shotguns. The alien Destabilizer, MPLX Novasurge Plasma Pistol, Microwave Emitter, and Tri-Beam Laser Rifle are also very powerful energy weapons. Ultimately though, the best "energy weapon" is probably the Gauss Rifle, which as the name indicates, is actually a kinetic weapon that fires 2mm slugs with electromagnetism. Fallout: New Vegas works more to put energy weapons and regular guns on equal footing, as it has perks and several high-tier energy weapons that are among the best guns in the game. Even default energy weapons will often have a Damage Threshold reduction effect, which means that they do more of their full damage to heavily armoured targets such as robots or deathclaws. The only serious problem you may encounter when using energy weapons is that both guns and ammunition are uncommon and expensive.note The ammo problem can be lessened by recycling spent ammo (4:1 for each ammo type) and the "Vigilant Recycler" perk can lighten the ammo strain by giving you twice as much ammo for every drained cell, lowering the cost to recycle (e.g., 3 energy cells for 1), and allowing you to recycle them into "Optimized" ammo which is all around beter. The Laser RCW also has a recycler mod that ignores the cost of every fourth shot of the rare Electron Charge Pack batteries. In Fallout 4, many radiation and energy weapons, namely the Gamma Gun and Gauss Rifle, will appear to have massive damage, but so many enemies are resistant to those damage types and their resistances are so high that there's little point. Radiation damage, for instance, is wholly ineffective against robots, ghouls (sentient and feral), super mutants, animals, and humans in power armor; combined, these make up about 70% of the baddies you'll be dealing with. They also tend not to benefit from sneak bonuses to base damage and crit, as most weapons of these types cannot be modified with silencers. Bullets, however? Nothing in the game has full immunity to those.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_77677ed1	comment	Sword of the Stars: Kinetic weapons make up a substantial minority of the weapon options, as they are favored by the Hivers, Zuul and Tarka. Kinetic weapons deal more damage and generally have longer ranges than energy weapons (though less so than missiles and torpedoes) and cause their targets to veer of course from the force of the impact. The game's premier anti-planet weapon, Siege Drivers, are also kinetic. Kinetic weapons are, however, wildly inaccurate without targeting tech and deflectable by armor technology, fire more slowly than energy weapons, and up until Argos Naval Yard lacked the late-level exotic weapon variants that you could get up the energy weapons tree. The latest expansion, however, did introduce the Rail Cannons, two or three of which are mounted on Impactor cruisers and six (or seven... or ten for Liir) on Impactor dreadnoughts. Their decent enough reload rate makes them deadly against most ships. The only way to avoid being destroyed by these is to use deflectors (type of shield that blocks all kinetic weapons) or shield projectors. Even with the shields, the target ship still gets pushed by the impact. This can either cause the ship to collide with another object (such as a planet) or be pushed in such a way that the shield no longer protects it (deflectors only protect from frontal assaults). The sequel adds another nuance to shipbuilding and gameplay that further murks up the waters — power requirements. Ship's systems and weapons must now share a power source, which means Beam Spam may no longer be an option for some designs as exceeding power availability causes reduction in rate of fire. This means that kinetic weapons, which require significantly less power, are once again an attractive option, although the new damage spread system shows that lasers offer better penetration than mass drivers. Also, kinetics have their own rate limiting factor, Supply. In the end the best way is still to make a balance of both.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_782a1f0	comment	Phantasy Star Online features the Yasminkov series of weapons. The Yasminkov 9000k is one of the most popular weapons for the ranged class, due to being a Mechgun (which usually barely have ranger greater than melee weapons) with the range of a Rifle (the longest range of any weapon in the game). In addition, all of these hit instantly, while the Photon weapons have a slight delay. Even beyond the Yasminkov guns, PSO has an odd fixation on kinetic weapons being leagues better than their energy equivalents. Sword or spear, gun or rocket launcher, one of the signs you've found a really, really good rare is that it looks like a plain, old, ordinary kinetic weapon from the real world.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7988cb68	comment	Mass Effect: The weapons are highly advanced Magnetic Weapons, using magnetic accelerator coils and the titular mass effect to alter mass and gravity and speed up small pieces of metal, about the size of sand (though on the upper end of sand grain range, perhaps around the size of modern 1â€“to-3-gram microcalibers), to speeds that make it more lethal than modern firearms. This allows for some magazines to hold thousands of rounds, thus negating the need to reload over the course of a single mission. The weapons have power sources as well, though higher-end for more velocity in a smaller package are expensive. Unfortunately, they overheat rapidly unless special weapon modifications are used. In Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, weapons have been modified to use "thermal clips" that allow for one to fire a weapon and then eject the clip and load another one, akin to ammunition reloading. This allows the weapon to fire much more powerful shots than before (when they were only slightly stronger than their modern equivalents, according to the first game's website), at the expense of heat buildup being so high that the weapon is unable to fire without a thermal clip installed without completely melting its internals. The Phasic and Proton Rounds ammunition mods can convert whatever weapon you slot them in into a partially energy-based weapon which combines mass and charged particles, according to the fluff. Even then, though, the trope is upheld; neither of these mods are all that useful, dealing out LESS overall damage in return for some of that damage being dealt to the target's health through their shields. Specialist solid rounds often do better just through sheer damage output. Many non-standard weapons superficially resembling Beam Spam are still considered mass accelerators: The Collector Assault Rifle uses "metallic enamel" as a physical projectile, and the geth weaponry is exactly the same as other guns, except with a phasic envelope. Geth "plasma" weapons actually shoot superconducting, electrically-charged toroids that explode to generate plasma on contact, effectively becoming exploding munitions. The Incinerate power from 2 actually is a directed-energy weapon, namely a plasma round that primarily deals thermal damage. While it is both extremely powerful (enough to gib people on a direct hit) and homing, it is of limited use compared to kinetic weapons against shielded foes, because plasma still has mass, and thus kinetic barriers can block it with little trouble. Its negligible kinetic energy means it doesn't tax the barriers to do this, and heat transferred through a meter or so of air does basically nothing to someone in a hardsuit. The novel Mass Effect: Annihilation shows more plasma small arms in the form of some back-mounted plasma cannons used by the elcor. They still mostly prefer bullets. Mass Effect 2 explains that the weapons Sovereign uses look like energy weapons but actually aren't either — they instead operate somewhat like coilguns, only firing an elongated projectile of superheated metal at the target instead of a solid slug so that not only does the target suffer the impact of the jet, but the jet itself burns through the target like a torch. It took less than a year after the end of Mass Effect for the normal races to build a prototype of the same type of weapon, and you can upgrade the Normandy with one (two cannons, actually, which fire together to look like one big weapon). And boy, oh boy is it effective! The one time they're actually used, the Normandy SR2 proceeds to utterly vaporize a much heavier and (ostensibly) more advanced warship with a mere two shots. Suddenly, your Frigate hits like a Dreadnought! Mass Effect 2 also features an exposÃ© on kinetic weapons by an ornery drill sergeant bringing a couple of cadets up to speed on coil guns. 20kg of solid metal flung at 1.3% of the speed of light impacts with a force of 38kt, and due to the lack of friction in space, should one happen to miss their target, it's certain to ruin someone's day somewhere, sometime. More importantly, while a nuclear explosion spreads out as a sphere, that 38 kilotons is entirely focused on tiny slug no more than a few dozen centimeters in surface area, coming out to hundreds of kilotons per square meter or thousands of times more intense than an equivalent energy nuclear detonation at near point blank. Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son-of-a-bitch in space! Compared to kinetic weapons, the GARDIAN laser systems aboard most warships possess a number of advantages: they are near 100% accurate under optimal circumstances and also ignore kinetic barriers, which make them very effective at providing point defence against fighters and projectiles, as well as in short-range "knife fights" against larger ships. That said, they are very short-ranged weapons: even in space, light diffraction causes lasers to attenuate rapidly, while (as explained above) kinetic weapons (and to a lesser extent, torpedoes) can keep going for damn near forever without any decrease in lethality. Furthermore, they tend to overheat under extended use, which decreases their range, accuracy, and power if an engagement drags on. The Protheans, apparently used to abide by this trope. They later developed particle beam weaponry in order to avoid supply problems; the rifle in question is very useful and practical, provided you can keep it from Overheating. It turns out that the Derelict Reaper, the only known Reaper to have been killed in combat by a civilisation before Sovereign, was gunned down in a single shot by an enormous Mass Accelerator. The round proceeded to cut through the target and sliced a ten-thousand-kilometre long gash in the side of a planet in a completely different solar system. In the Citadel DLC for Mass Effect 3, you can get your hands on an assault rifle from Mass Effect 1 that uses the first game's cooldown mechanic (i.e., no heat sinks) yet has been modified to pack a punch of modern (i.e., ME3 standards) weapons by a "master weaponsmith". Thus, you have a weapon with virtually unlimited ammo but can't fire it in long bursts.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7a7a1a86	comment	In Aliens, the Colonial Marines are armed with caseless assault weapons, which have the distinctly energy-weapon sounding moniker "pulse rifles", though this refers to the electrical triggering system (as opposed to mechanical pin-and-primer in normal guns) for its caseless ammunition (a technique used by modern experimental weapons such as the H&K G11).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7b039953	comment	Avatar: The weapons used by the humans are just futuristic-looking versions of ours; they still sling ammo exactly like present day Earth. However, in some sources, it is said that weapons on Earth are far more advanced than weapons used on Pandora, but the latter are far easier and cheaper to produce, especially when you are more than a few lightyears away from Earth. They are still kinetic, though, just electromagnetic-based rather than using chemical propulsion (another reason why they are limited to Earth's much weaker magnetic field).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7b18cc26	comment	BattleTech (2018) inherits this from its source material. Energy weapons don't have to worry about ammo, which frees up space and tonnage and negates the chances of an ammo explosion; on the other hand, they generate a lot of heat, and (with the exception of the PPC) don't do a lot of stability damage. Meanwhile Kinetic weapons can have a bunch of fun effects (LRMs can attach from a distance, SRMs can knock a 'Mech over, Autocannons can do a ton of damage...) but require ammo bins that represent firing limits and a weak point.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7c19a801	comment	FTL: Faster Than Light is an interesting case. Missiles are able to pass through shields and attack the innards of ships. However, you only have a very limited supply of missiles, so most of the time missiles will be used to take out shields so your Beam Spam can carve apart the enemy's ship. Advanced Edition adds Flak Cannons — guns that fire multiple chunks of metal shrapnel. They don't take ammo like missiles do, and a single shot can do multiple hits (making them good at clearing multiple layers of shielding). The trade off is that they are inaccurate; both the number of hits they do and where they hit is up to luck. Then there's the crystal weapons. They have low shield penetration, but make up for it by not costing anything to fire unlike missiles.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7c297a3c	comment	The Alt Eisen of Super Robot Wars Compact 2. In a setting where most Humongous Mecha are powered by Applied Phlebotinum, tinkered with by aliens, shoot Frickin' Laser Beams and Sphere of Destructions and other unworldly powers, this Real Robot uses solely solid-based weapons. Unfortunately, it's an Awesome, but Impractical unit, due to its specifications and difficulty in handling in-story. However, it functions on Rule of Cool, due to its pilot having been Born Lucky and in his hands, is able to take it to a point where it rivals Super Robots in damage capabilities. Demonstrated here in 2nd Super Robot Wars Original Generation. OUCH!
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7cf17151	comment	The alien invaders in Battle: Los Angeles use seven-barrelled arm cannons rather than the usual death rays.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7d1f75f6	comment	One character in Footfall describes the alien invaders' primary weapons as "crowbars dropped from orbit". For that matter, the personal weapons used by the aliens are just scaled up versions of ordinary machine guns.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7de8951a	comment	Traveller: Energy weapons do more damage than kinetic weapons and have a far greater ammo capacity, but while a laser pistol does as much damage as a slug thrower rifle it also weighs the same and costs as much as a rocket launcher (2,000 cr., for comparison a revolver costs 150 cr. and most rifles cost 1,000 cr. or less).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7ea4fd20	comment	Zig-zagged in Wasteland 2. Unlike the previous game, energy weapons aren't just straight-up required to beat the game as they knock old bullet-sluggers into obsolescence. Energy weapons are more powerful (especially against enemies with heavy armour) but kinetic weapons are still more abundant, reliable and easier to keep, and the same is true for bullets. An AR-15 might be a more useful main weapon pick over a laser rifle in the long run despite its statistical inferiority, but it's still handy to have an energy pistol on hand to deal with those special moments when ordinary bullets don't have the kick to punch through armour.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7f02dd41	comment	Star Wars: Battlefront: The scatter gun proves to be very effective It's basically just a double-barreled shotgun. Despite firing pellets, it can one-shot armored Stormtroopers at a pretty decent range, and is even very effective against the personal Deflector Shields you can get. The Cycler Rifle (which looks and acts like a Pashtun jezzail from the 19th century) is a very powerful Sniper Rifle. It's highly accurate and will generally one-shot the target, the main weakness being that it is single-shot. Then again, the Tusken Raiders who normally make and use this rifle are shown to have no problem shooting at mid-range targets with it as one particular train heist can attest.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7f5e00d9	comment	That said, while UNSC ground weapons can hold their own relatively well against their energy-based Covenant counterparts, Covenant ship-to-ship weapons are painfully superior to their UNSC counterparts, capable of boiling away a human ship's reinforced titanium hulls in seconds; Halo: The Fall of Reach describes a gigantic Covenant energy projector that is proven capable of slicing through human ships in one stroke, with Halo: Escalation featuring a version capable of crippling humanity's most advanced flagship with only one shot. In general lore-wise, while kinetic weapons can hold their own at infantry and, to a lesser degree, terrestrial vehicle scales, the advantage at Humongous Mecha scale and above tends to go to energy weapons; this is part of why the UNSC could put up a good fight on the ground, but got their ass kicked by the Covenant in space. This is part of why the Covenant just started glassing human worlds instead of trying to conquer and hold them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7f6d17a2	comment	We Are Legion (We Are Bob): The Brazilian probes use explosive missiles, but Bob is worried about the substances exploding when built with his 3D printers. He considers using lasers, but dismisses them as inefficient due to power constraints, so he goes with guided non-explosive missiles called "busters" instead. They work by suicidally ramming the target at high speed.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_7f88571c	comment	In Gundam SEED, most anti-infantry weapons are of the projectile variety. All of the Gundams are equipped with Vulcan cannons in their heads for beating off infantry attacks, and many other mobile suits have outsized machine guns or automatic rifles that serve a similar purpose, as automatic fire is much more effective in breaking up mass infantry attacks than a single shot beam weapon. They also don't run out of power just because the mecha has. On the other hand, Phase Shift Armor technology makes Gundams immune to live ammunition as long as they have power, which was an issue with early battery-powered models but became much less problematic when N-Jammer Cancellers re-enabled nuclear power plants. Kira's Freedom and Strike Freedom both have a pair of railguns that don't see much use outside of helping shoot down screens of missiles, but he has also used them to counter underwater mobile suits on occasion, since beam weapons don't work very well underwater. Another example in Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny, where the Archangel and Minerva duel (again), during the ZAFT invasion of Orb. With both ships equipped with Laminate Armor, they could take several beam shots from each other with no damage. The Archangel eventually wins by abandoning the duel, going underwater, and sinking ZAFT submarines with its railguns, forcing the entire army to retreat.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_8001652d	comment	Commonwealth Saga: A favored weapon in starship combat is the Douvoir missile. Essentially, the idea is that it's possible to control the speed at which the endpoints of a wormhole are moving. It is therefore possible to leave a wormhole at whatever relative speed (compared to whatever else is nearby) you want, without expending time and energy to accelerate to that speed. Douvoir missiles are simple projectiles that are shot out of a wormhole at a significant percentage of light speed, and as such do an enormous amount of damage.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_81692f99	comment	Star Trek: The general tech level allows for the characters to easily use phaser weapons, both handheld and ship mounted, but it's made very clear that the physical photon torpedoes are more deadly in combat situations. As such often the combat method is using a burst of phaser fire to distract and disorient targets and then follow up with a barrage of photon torpedoes, later the blue-colored quantum torpedoes. It's been established in the expanded Trek universe that the Borg drones have a distinct, specific weakness to kinetic weaponry, since their personal shield technology does not include particle shielding. It is unknown if their ships suffer the same fault. In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Shore Leave", an energy field coming from the planet they're studying drains power from multiple ship systems aboard the Enterprise, and also affects the handheld phaser weapons of the landing party, making them useless. When a knight attacks the landing party, Kirk uses an old earth revolver to take it down. Star Trek: First Contact: Picard lures a couple of Borg drones into the Holodeck, and shoots them with a tommy gun (though whether or not a Holodeck tommy gun with the safeties off is a real gun or merely a forcefield simulation of one is up for debate because the evidence is inconsistent and points both ways. Though notably, he only kills two drones with it, and the number of drones you can kill with a phaser before they adapt is about three.). The idea of physical objects being useful against them is supported in the visual effect of the Borg adapting to weapons fire. The series had what looked like an actual shield pop up and the phaser shot doing no damage. Starting with this movie the phaser blast seems to be dissipated into the full body of the drone, which suggests that it isn't a personal shield but the actual body armor of the drone allowing it to absorb energy. This makes projectile weapons logical. Data kills multiple Drones with his bare hands, and Worf kills some by smashing them with his gun or with a knife. However, they are both extremely strong which seems to make the difference. The one human Red Shirt who attempts to Phaser-butt a drone gets his ass handed to him in short order (though it's worth noting that he hits the drone in the chest whereas Worf goes for the neck/head, which may make the difference). Another officer balks at the idea of hand-to-hand combat, clearly aware that such an attempt would fail horribly. Unless you can shut down the drone in one hit, you have no real chance in a prolonged fight; they're super-strong zombies with assimilation tubes, and if they grab you, you join them. The Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Field of Fire" features a projectile weapon Starfleet has developed known as the TR-116 rifle, in the event that personnel were in environments where phasers would be undesirable; EMP-like areas, or simply atmospheres that might be ignited by phasers. The rifle has some interesting uses; Chu'lak modifies it with a mini-transporter, allowing it to beam its bullet to other rooms only a few centimeters from its target, and a high precision visual sensor, allowing for lethal targeting up to the maximum range of the micro-transporter (plus the effective range of the rifle). The rifle never entered service due to the invention of newer technologies. In some of the Deep Space novels, however, the rifle is said to be quite useful, especially against the Borg. It is also implied that another reason Starfleet doesn't use the weapon is because it is too good, since one can modify it to transport bullets, allowing potential assassins to do their work with little effort. Whether or not it has a semi or full auto function isn't mentioned... but all things considered, it can be assumed. Between the aforementioned newer technologies and the fact that the weapon lacks a non-lethal option, Starfleet would have happily discontinued the TR-116 as soon as possible. Less a case of "too good" and more a case of "This is only good for assassination now, so the United Federation of Planets does not need it." After all, humans tend to be good and prefer diplomacy, so such an effective assassination weapon doesn't fit their modus operandi as well as the phaser, which has more utility and can be set to stun. Of course, the plans still aren't classified enough, and in the only episode featuring the TR-116, this fact plus crazy person plus Matter Replicator equals murder. It also leads to an embarrassing incident of Dax accusing an innocent man of the murders because he'd accessed the plans and replicated one. He collected exotic weapons as a hobby. You just know if some old eccentric kook can access the plans, Section 31 has probably mass produced them and uses them quite liberally. From the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine novels: In Fallen Heroes, the invading Bekkir have body armor that renders them immune to phasers, so O'Brien rigs them into grenades. Dax discovers that their armor isn't Immune to Bullets, so she replicates a machine gun. A Klingon machine gun. In one novel, Worf is with a detachment of Klingons trying to breach a heavily shielded base. They can't get through with their normal weapons, so Worf replicates a catapult and smashes the outer walls to pieces. In Star Trek Online, this is a major component of early space combat. Use your energy weapons to knock down shields then use kinetic weapons (photon torpedoes) to deliver the deathblows. Phasers will do around 100 damage to the hull of an enemy ship, a torpedo can easily go over 2000 damage. For ground combat, it is possible to obtain the TR-116b via crafting. It's a field ready model of the TR-116 prototype (without the micro transporter). The primary benefit of having one is to fight the Borg, because their remodulating shields won't protect them from tritanium bullets. There is also the Zefram Cochrane Shotgun, which is hard to obtain, but also fires conventional bullets.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_81a0c1f8	comment	Averted in Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel!. They're just... other options, and stand on roughly equal footing as the game's mostly kinetic arsenal (heck, some of the best Game-Breaker items are lasers). However, it is played straight in universe, as Mr. Torgue of Torgue fame hates them with a passion and considers them an insult towards his explosions. A number of missions have you destroying laser weapons for him, and it is implied this is one of the many reasons lasers aren't around for Borderlands 2.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_846beec3	comment	When the Earth-aliens infiltrate the protagonists' ship in Vandread, it turns out that said invaders could deflect energy weapons, but not a few .50 caliber clips. Having an avid gun collector among the crew with quite a few museum-piece guns onboard sure was convenient...
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_84d455d4	comment	Played straight through most of The Big O. The eponymous Humongous Mecha's energy weapons can sometimes get the job done, but usually its most reliable weapons are its huge arm pistons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_84dfb5d5	comment	In Galactic Civilizations, mass drivers are one of three choices you have for weapon tech paths, along with missiles and energy weapons. Which one was better depends on what form of defenses your enemies are using — shields defend against energy weapons, point defense protects ships from missiles, and plain old armour plating stops mass drivers. Mass drivers' advantage is being the cheapest option, if the second bulkiest after missiles.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_86b52b7b	comment	I, Robot includes conventional firearms, albeit more futuristic versions of them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_8ac4e993	comment	In the Gundam franchise, beam weaponry is generally much stronger than kinetic (though it's for that exact reason that regular guns are still used; suits often are forced to fight in colonies, where a stray beam would blow a hole in the side of the colony, whether it hit its intended target or not, and destroy the whole thing) but this trope comes into play to a small degree in Gundam 00, with the presence of anti-beam countermeasures that render all beam weapons affected useless. The only way to combat this is old-fashioned solid ordinance. In the meta-series, it is a very notable example of this trope, especially the transition from the original Mobile Suit Gundam from the late '70s, where beam weaponry was simultaneously the Infinity +1 Sword over kinetic weapons (the Gundam was the first mobile suit to have a beam rifle, and it was the reason it one-shot everything Zeon could throw at it) but also almost ridiculously prevalent (even basic Federation Red Shirts had beam weaponry by the time a mass-produced version of the Gundam started to see combat about halfway through) through to later Universal Century series early in the '80s (Zeta, ZZ) where beam weaponry all but entirely replaced machine guns, and then to the second half of the '80s (Char's Counterattack, 0080) and mostly through the '90s (0083, 08th MS Team) where kinetic weapons like rockets, gatling cannons, and the like became much more prevalent, with beam weaponry still appearing and being incredibly dangerous (0083 shows a Gelgoog's beam rifle taking out a cruiser in one shot), but usually being extremely rare and expensive (the 08th Team only gets beam rifles late in their series), having actual countermeasures (several late-series suits in 0083 have devices to generate "I-fields" which completely nullify beam weapons that hit them), or just being Awesome, but Impractical (0080 takes place almost entirely in a colony, so guns that don't punch big holes in it and kill everyone are the order of the day). Full miniaturization of the technology is still a ways off in every series; while the amount of weaponry downsized from "battleship cannons" to "used by Mobile Suits" varies, human-to-human combat is still conducted entirely with projectile weapons. The shot lancer in Gundam F91 is a lance weapon with pile-driver spearhead, specifically designed to provide the one-shot-one-kill power of a beam rifle while limiting collateral damage in a colony attack. They are used to devastating effect throughout the movie. In Gundam SEED, most anti-infantry weapons are of the projectile variety. All of the Gundams are equipped with Vulcan cannons in their heads for beating off infantry attacks, and many other mobile suits have outsized machine guns or automatic rifles that serve a similar purpose, as automatic fire is much more effective in breaking up mass infantry attacks than a single shot beam weapon. They also don't run out of power just because the mecha has. On the other hand, Phase Shift Armor technology makes Gundams immune to live ammunition as long as they have power, which was an issue with early battery-powered models but became much less problematic when N-Jammer Cancellers re-enabled nuclear power plants. Kira's Freedom and Strike Freedom both have a pair of railguns that don't see much use outside of helping shoot down screens of missiles, but he has also used them to counter underwater mobile suits on occasion, since beam weapons don't work very well underwater. Another example in Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny, where the Archangel and Minerva duel (again), during the ZAFT invasion of Orb. With both ships equipped with Laminate Armor, they could take several beam shots from each other with no damage. The Archangel eventually wins by abandoning the duel, going underwater, and sinking ZAFT submarines with its railguns, forcing the entire army to retreat. Played to the hilt in Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans, in which, physical weapons, both melee and ordinance based, are the only type of weapon really seen used (unusually for the franchise). Beam weaponry doesn't even appear to exist in Post-Disaster technology at first, but as it turns out it isn't nonexistent, just mostly forgotten. The reason is implied to be partially that they are a power hog, which is why they only show up used by massive mobile armors with redundant power cores, and that the highly durable nanolaminate armor (which is already particularly resilient against solid ordinance) was developed in part to directly counter beam weaponry, as such even basic mobile suits are functionally immune. While that makes it seem to be useless in combat, the continuous burst fire still has higher destructive potential to anything not armored like civilian transports and settlements. The most destructive weapon in the setting is the DÃ¡insleif, a type of railcannon that fires large spears that can even pierce nanolaminate armor; it is so dangerous that its use is formally banned. They start popping up in the second season. The Gundam Floures is revealed to come standard with shoulder-mounted railguns for use against a mobile armor; Tekkadan didn't even realize what they had at first, as the warhead itself was different and in a legal grey area. Iok used that information and framed the Turbines for possession of such weapons and then used similar weapons against them. Iok's commander Rustal Elion did a similar version of the same plan during an Enemy Civil War with Tekkadan on the other side, having The Mole use such a weapon against them so they could justify deploying their own squadron armed with them. Shino attempts to use a DÃ¡insleif warhead in Gundam Floures in a failed attempt to take down Rustal's flagship. Much later in their Last Stand, the only thing that took out the remaining Gundams was another DÃ¡insleif barrage.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_8b7b9cd5	comment	Blasters (which fire particle beams) are overwhelmingly the most common weapon, particularly in military applications. "Slugthrowers" do still exist and are used for civilian applications like hunting (for instance, Luke's weapon that he tries and fails to use against a Tusken Raider in A New Hope). There are some obvious advantages to blasters, like minimal recoil, more shots before reloading, and the logistical advantage of all using the same power source, although the reasons given aren't always consistent. It's also worth noting that Star Wars firearm technology seems to have stagnated, resulting in slugthrowers most closely resembling World War I-era technology which gives an obvious advantage to blasters which are more similar to modern firearms in terms of effectiveness — Luke's slugthrower rifle from A New Hope is an old-fashioned wooden-stocked rifle which looks like it only holds one shot at a time, while the blaster rifles the Rebels use in Return of the Jedi are built out of M16s.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_8c0c101d	comment	In Albedo: Erma Felna EDF, the characters' guns fire ordinary bullets, and kinetic weapons are also the usual use for Orbital Bombardment.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_90c73dda	comment	In Animorphs, guns aren't necessarily "better", but when Visser Three mocks humans for their "primitive projectile weapons", Visser One points out that a single bullet can still kill a Hork-Bajir quite effectively.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_90e2f673	comment	BattleTech: Chemically propelled cannons and lasers coexist. Energy weapons generally have the advantage in firepower-per-weight, and don't run out of ammunition as long as the mech's reactor is still working. However, energy weapons generate large amounts of heat, and an energy-heavy mech needs a lot of gear to deal with that, reducing the overall amount of weapons and armour. Plus, the highest-damaging weapons in the game are all kinetic (or explosive), and they often have the added versatility of using different kinds of ammunition. There are still discussions which is better in-game. It's also worth noting that even in the far future, there is no better weapon for anti-infantry duty than the lowly but battle-tested heavy machine gun and even the lightest mech can carry a large amount of ammo for one. Gauss weapons also exist in the setting, and are some of the deadliest pieces of equipment around. At the high end there's starship-mounted mass drivers, which can lob 90-ton projectiles around in combat. On the downside, while the rounds themselves are made of inert metal, the huge electrical capacitors that power the launchers can do some serious damage to their own users if they get hit and explode. The Federated Suns love using Autocannons, many of their mechs such as the Jagermech and Hammerhands have autocannons as their primary weapons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_92ac8bc0	comment	In Xenonauts, weapon tier progression first goes from ballistic to energy weapons (laser, then plasma), but then back to kinetic weapons for the ultimate weapon tier: Magnetic Weapons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_969233f3	comment	Apocalypse gives you a less linear tech tree due to the involvement of other corporations and security firms developping their own technology, and while alien weapons and more gimmicky X-COM-made weapons are useful and even Game Breakers, simply blowing up a building with demolition charges or chucking enough explosives at aliens will mostly always do the trick.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9838249c	comment	The Transhuman Space setting exemplifies the trope even more than the main generic rules. It's a near-ish future setting with fairly realistically plausible power supply/battery technologies. That means that lasers make poor personal weapons (though there are a very few); firearms still work just fine. Less-than-lethal "electrolasers" exist as a useful option, though.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_98f107f3	comment	Because they appear as glowing shafts of light, the ranged weapons used by the robots in Bokurano are often referred to as lasers, but are identified, via All There in the Manual, as being material weapons, specifically nanoparticles of the mechs' own armor material accelerated to near-relativistic speeds.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9a7088bc	comment	In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Shore Leave", an energy field coming from the planet they're studying drains power from multiple ship systems aboard the Enterprise, and also affects the handheld phaser weapons of the landing party, making them useless. When a knight attacks the landing party, Kirk uses an old earth revolver to take it down.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9afa4e32	comment	On the other hand, UFO Robo Grendizer averts the trope. Grendizer has few kinetic weapons (its Sinister Scythe, its Rocket Punch...), and most of its weaponry are different kinds of laser beams. The Vegan troops also use gun rays more often than not.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9c0c6d38	comment	In Legends of Dune, both the Thinking Machines and the League of Nobles (and later the Butlerian Jihad) almost exclusively use kinetic weapons, bombs, and missiles for aerial, space, and ground combats. While it is revealed that lasguns were popular during the days of the Old Empire, they didn't have the destructive capability of kinetic weapons. Plasma bombs are mentioned to be used occasionally by the cymeks, but those cases are rare.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9d1ce3d8	comment	To the Stars: In Starworld, the rebel admiral explains to the protagonist why energy weapons don't work in the vast distances of space. Although missiles are being used by both sides, the rebels use linear accelerators firing unguided cannon balls to gain the decisive edge, then finish them off with a Flechette Storm of rocket-propelled bullets.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_9ff4a8d9	comment	In one of the Godzilla episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000, the characters stumble across some human skeletons in a cave:
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a15c03fd	comment	Starfinder plays with this. Kinetic weapons on average deal more damage than energy weapons, but most armor provides more protection against them, balancing them out.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a1970a85	comment	Fading Suns rightfully plays up the We Will Use Lasers in the Future trope, as it's so far in the future that lasers, blasters and etc. are better than the kinetic weapons. There are exceptions such as the crowd-destroying Furystorm Chaingun, which is actually a higher tech weapon than a Gatling Laser that's one of the most advanced examples of laser weaponry in the game. Additionally, armies are outfitted with rifles similar to those in the 20th or 21st century as the setting is undergoing a technological regression and the human industrial base in decline. Even crossbows and longbows have once again become viable weapons in combat.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a3411dd1	comment	In Fury Born: Soldiers tend to use projectile weapons in infantry battles because laser weapons don't very well in atmosphere (though some people do use them in outer space boarding actions, where much of the fighting would take place in vacuum). Plasma weapons are used in atmosphere and vacuum, but these are heavy weapons that only one person in a squad would be carrying at most.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a4a6b86a	comment	Code Geass subverts this. Even though the majority of grunts use bullets for their knightmares the black knights' best mechs instead use some form of laser or energy blast as their method of attack. The Guren even uses it more like how it would work in real life, they explode. Specifically, it has a microwave claw that cooks enemy pilots alive. Wonder what the Geneva Convention would have to say about that?
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a4ae80d6	comment	Oddworld: Yes, taking over a Slig's mind and then making him run into a meat grinder is pretty awesome, but the Sligs themselves make a good case for this, seeing as how in a straight up engagement, they will pretty much always shoot you dead before you can do anything.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a4c36b62	comment	In PlanetSide, New Conglomerate and Terran Republic weapons follow this. The Conglomerate uses a lot of railguns and shotguns, whereas the Terrans just rely on regular guns shooting a ton of bullets everywhere.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_a6ece007	comment	In space, things are a bit more muddled. On the one hand, a laser "Lance" weapon is more reliable at dealing damage than a broadside of more conventional guns. But a shell from a Nova Cannon fires a massive, exploding shell at relativistic speeds, and is capable of destroying entire squadrons of kilometre-long spacecraft, thousands of kilometres apart, in a spectacular explosion. Subverted in the Ascended Fanfic "Rock Are Not Free!", where a starship captain figuring he'd just drop an asteroid on the planet (admittedly a time-honored tactic, among orks) is sent to remedial accounting because it ended up costing almost three times as much as a standard orbital bombardment.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_aa78ef5c	comment	In Venus Wars, the militarized monocycles are armed with railguns.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_aacd24cb	comment	StarCraft contains a general balance between energy weapons and kinetics (although energy weapons make up a disproportionately larger portion of the very high-end attacks). The Protoss rely pretty much entirely on energy weapons (including energy melee weapons), but they are pretty balanced against the bullet and missile wielding Terrans and the claw and acid-spit-or-something wielding Zerg.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_acc21225	comment	In the Deathstalker series, projectile (kinetic) weapons are actually banned throughout The Empire and knowledge of them was suppressed due to their ease of use and production making revolts easier to arm. They were replaced by swords and blasters — the latter of which are powered by Green Rocks. The blasters take two minutes to recharge, and force shields will stop most projectile weapons... though that drains the fields' power fast. Ultimately, this trope is even lampshaded during a siege.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_b303c68f	comment	The Last Chancers: Deliberately invoked by some Catachan Jungle Fighters in the last novel, Annihilation Squad. One of the Last Chancers asks why they don't use lasguns against the orks since they are quieter, they could carry more ammo per kilogram and logistics would make it easier to resupply. The leader of the Catachan squad explains that orks have a great deal more respect for weapons which are loud and flashy, and that it is much easier to stop a charging bull ork with a bullet than a laser beam.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_b7dd8199	comment	In Redliners, the human Strike Force commandos use electromagnetic pellet rifles as their primary personal weapon, while the aliens use laser beams. This is because the pellet guns are massively damaging at the close-range Strike Force mission usually take place at.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_b7e2bb69	comment	Syndicate: In the 1993 game, the gatling gun is the best all-around weapon, with only Lasers and Gauss being more powerful (but with limited ammunition), and becomes a staple of enemies during Atlantic Accelerator. However, kinetic bullets are completely negated by the Energy shield. The 2012 game subverts this: Kinetic weapons are still very effective, with such gems as the 30mm Gatling and Hand Cannon. However, this has led to the creation of Immune to Bullets Powered Armor used by Elite Mooks. In turn, energy weapons like the laser gun and Electron Mace that ignore the defence of aforementioned Elite Mooks have been invented. Inverted in Syndicate Wars. The game only has four "traditional" kinetic weapons (which are technically actually energy weapons firing Hard Light generated bullets); The uzi, the minigun, the Launcher, and the Long Range Rifle. The latter two have good stopping power and range at the expense of a really slow firing rate and the former two are quickly outclassed by everything else in the game. Enemies tend to quickly start carrying Electron Maces and Pulse Lasers, while late game enemies start packing Plasma Lances.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_b9419bd1	comment	A variety of energy weapons are available in Deus Ex: Human Revolution that are Awesome, but Impractical for most uses. The Direct Energy Rifle fires a pinpoint-accurate beam that can penetrate walls and obstacles, while the Plasma Lance launches blobs of energy along an ionized trail. In addition, there's also the P.E.P.S., which is essentially a short-ranged, (mostly) less-than-lethal plasma weapon that knocks down its targets. Despite their power, they take up a lot of inventory space, tend to be pretty loud, are rather hard to find ammo for, and are generally obtained late in the game. That said, they're not truly useless. The Direct Energy Rifle can be combined with some tracking augmentations to eliminate enemies through walls without ever being seen and can also bypass the shields on the final boss, finishing the fight in seconds, while the P.E.P.S. can be used to push aside heavy objects without needing to unlock the requisite strength augmentation.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_bb5f7a3f	comment	In the novel Before the Storm, the New Republic Fifth Battle Group goes on a live-fire military exercise against a moon armed with a hypervelocity gun, an anti-orbital weapon which is a mass accelerator rather than an energy weapon. More of them turn up in the Star Wars RTS Empire at War.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_bbe35da	comment	The Ark Royal is primarily armed with powerful mass drivers that, while considered decades obsolete, still pack a major punch, being capable of destroying most alien carriers with a single hit.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Played with in Warhammer 40,000: Due to the Schizo Tech setting, Energy Weapons coexist with more conventional firearms. Lasguns are easier to mass-produce, more reliable, and are easier on logistics since their "ammo" is rechargeable and robust power packs. Autoguns are easier to fire on full-auto, don't draw a line to your hidden position, and allow for different ammo types to adapt to different enemies and situations. Lasguns are good assault weapons, and autoguns can make good tactical weapons. But on the tabletop, the two are both interchangeable and among the weakest weapons available. ...but when you start to scale them up, Linear Kinetic, Quadratic Energy comes into play. Kinetic guns such as Bolt weapons, which fire armor-piercing mass-reactive explosive gyrojet rounds, are much better at shredding infantry than a Multilaser, which packs slightly more punch but is unable to penetrate even a basic flak jacket. But when it comes to annihilating a hard target, laser, plasma, or melta weapons are preferred, while most big kinetic weapons are still being focused on cutting down hordes of light infantry. That said, a Leman Russ battle tank's main cannon is capable of blowing a hole in a squad of Space Marines, while a Basilisk artillery piece has two advantages over a Lascannon: it can fire indirectly over intervening terrain, and at a much greater distance. In space, things are a bit more muddled. On the one hand, a laser "Lance" weapon is more reliable at dealing damage than a broadside of more conventional guns. But a shell from a Nova Cannon fires a massive, exploding shell at relativistic speeds, and is capable of destroying entire squadrons of kilometre-long spacecraft, thousands of kilometres apart, in a spectacular explosion. Subverted in the Ascended Fanfic "Rock Are Not Free!", where a starship captain figuring he'd just drop an asteroid on the planet (admittedly a time-honored tactic, among orks) is sent to remedial accounting because it ended up costing almost three times as much as a standard orbital bombardment. Spinoff game Necromunda, by virtue of its slum-style setting, makes armour and energy weapons hard-to-get elite gear. Ordinary slug-throwers and shotguns are the predominant weapons in the game. In the RPGs Dark Heresy and Only War the need to worry about logistics makes Lasguns some of the most popular weapons simply because the ammunition for them is much easier to acquire than bullets for other weapons (and empty power packs can be recharged). They're also nearly impossible to jam, thanks to having very few moving parts. The Eldar follow the Imperial model for the most part, and their Shuriken-based weapons fire hails of molecularly-thin crystalline projectiles comparable to Bolt weapons in effectiveness, making up in rate of fire what they may lack in range. Their most potent weapons remain lasers such as the Bright Lance, or the more esoteric Distort Cannon. The Tau, however, play the trope straight. Their Pulse Rifles fire bursts of magnetically accelerated plasma, making them among the deadliest weapons fielded by any army's basic infantry. But their most dangerous weapons are Railguns capable of punching two neat holes on opposite sides of a battle tank (while leaving a twenty-metre red stain on the ground extending from the exit hole). Also played straight by da Orks. A common attitude among Ork boyz is that a shoota isn't "proppa" if it doesn't leave a hefty chunk of something in its target. This may have something to do with their experiences with the Imperial lasgun coupled with their own Super-Toughness. Orks will, however, make some exceptions for beamy guns that are sufficiently "killy", like a good Zzap gun or Plazma Deffgun. The standard weapon of the Space Marines during the Great Crusade was a weapon called the volkite charger, literally a Martian heat ray which could punch like Tau pulse weaponry and cut through thick armour like butter. As the Great Crusade wore on, however, the legions expanded and the foundries couldn't keep up with demand for more volkite weapons. Bolters were antiquated, but cheaper and easier to manufacture, and they could accept different types of bolter shell for different situations. They also had the distinction of being especially effective against Orks, by far their most common enemy. The bolters won out and volkite weapons were relegated to special weapon status, the kind of "one man per squad" deal that meltas and plasma guns have now. After the Horus Heresy, the know-how to create more volkite weapons was lost and nowadays only the Mechanicus have a few working examples, which they fervously cling to.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_bcb32dc6	comment	In Shadowrun, laser weapons exist, and can penetrate armor better than their kinetic brethren, but several factors keep them from being used that much. They're expensive as hell, their ammo is expensive as hell, they're very hard to find, let alone get your hands on, and they can be quite unreliable in a pitched firefight. For those reasons, most runners tend to stick with cheaper, more reliable weapons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_bfd23f28	comment	In Masters of the Universe, everybody wields dodge-able laser weapons. When Detective Lubic gets dragged into the final battle, he blows away several of Skeletor's minions with his shotgun, and they seem bewildered by the attacks they cannot see or dodge.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c09581e4	comment	In Space Battleship Yamato 2199, the titular starship can fire either energy beams or the Type-3 Armor-piercing shells from its primary and secondary guns. Those shells, although seldom used due to their limited stock, are all but guaranteed to one-shot whatever it managed to hit. Justified in those shells also just happen to have thermonuclear payloads, which might have slightly increased their destructiveness. It also gives the Yamato an unintentional benefit because energy weapons malfunction in hyperspace while kinetic weapons work just fine, which plays a key role in destroying Dessler's flagship.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c0d124e1	comment	The Chronicles of Riddick features projectile weapons that, while beefier-looking, still use the good old gunpowder and slug ammo. The Necromongers from the second film, however, have concussion guns as standard infantry armament, although they still prefer to fight up-close-and-personal with blades and axes. It is also not shown how these guns match up against firearms.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c2297a9c	comment	Judge Dredd: Dredd's pistol, the Lawgiver, fires a variety of rounds, all which are kinetic-based. Double Subverted with the Stub Gun, introduced during the Apocalypse War. This weapon is a laser capable of cutting through almost anything, but enormous energy output makes it notoriously volatile to use, causing the weapon to fail all trials for field use. The decision to fetch the few existing prototype models out of their storage is one of the signs that the war has long since crossed the Godzilla Threshold.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c2f4431b	comment	In The Citizen Series, laser small arms do exist and are effective in planetside battles, but they result in self-immolation if used in the Continuum since they reflect off the field that protects the traveler. Space combat is mainly a realm of antipersonnel "spring guns", basically crossbows or spearguns (or actual spears in the case of the Riders). Late in the book an Arms Dealer whom Allenson recruits into the Militia has the idea to bolt them to the front of the frame to make a Fixed Forward-Facing Weapon that can be aimed much easier, mirroring the development of air-to-air combat in World War I. Allenson also initially equips his Militia with firearms rather than laser weapons simply because they're cheaper and make logistics easier.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c35747a3	comment	Zig-zagged in The Jenkinsverse in that energy weapons are recoil-less, ammoless, highly configurable, lightweight enough for an alien to carry, and powerful enough against most spacefaring races. Kinetic weapons are FAR more potent and can be equipped with specialist ammunition, but most are too heavy for an alien to lift and recoil alone is powerful enough to injure an alien wielder.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c399cd39	comment	In Eclipse Phase, most energy weapons are designed to be "less-than-lethal", so with the exception of the plasma rifle they tend to do less damage and are less effective at penetrating armor than kinetics (especially railguns). Considering that killing people isn't actually that useful since everyone just wakes up in a new body, debilitating and capturing them is often much more useful in preventing them doing something. Robots and the like are pretty good at dealing with energy weapons while physically breaking them up works better to hurt them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c3a1b10b	comment	Planet Alcatraz plays this trope straight with hand-held firearms. Most of them are made with materials and technologies available on the planet, so this is pretty much expected. Even the "Imperial Weapon", state-of-the-art weaponry used by main peace-keeping forces, also uses ammunition. The Kill Sat, however, uses some sort of thermal/laser beam.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c3e7ab30	comment	Perfect Dark has flying cars, sentient computers, and flying sentient computers, but most of the weapons are just shinier versions of ours. The human weapons, anyway; Maian energy weapons are pretty much Game Breakers.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who dances around this trope in episodes set in the future. One future setting will have weapons identical to modern day ones, yet another future episode, sometimes even set before a "kinetic" episode will have highly advanced energy weapons. Could be justified with the Human Empire rising and falling repeatedly, which could result in a loss of technology with every fall. When it comes to effectiveness, though, energy weapons are shown to be only slightly more effective against certain foes like the Cybermen and the Daleks. When it comes to defeating them, the only kinetic weapon shown to outright destroy them are rocket launchers.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c5bf9810	comment	Legacy of the Aldenata has the ACS using grav-guns, which fire depleted uranium pellets propelled to just short of the speed of light. The first Posleen they hit explodes. They go through several more.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c5c65a23	comment	Terror from the Deep takes place underwater, so most weapons are based around energy, however, most of them also don't work above the surface, meaning you'll have to keep ballistics handy.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c5f50eb4	comment	Contra invokes this on accident. The Laser Gun powerup is almost useless because firing a second shot will instantly erase the first shot from the screen. Thus, firing rapidly will reduce your gun to little more than a laseriffic chainsaw.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c72021c5	comment	The only energy weapons in Deus Ex are the Awesome, but Impractical Plasma Rifle (all the fire rate of a cannon, poor accuracy unless you are a master in heavy weapons, slows you down and most of the time, its power is off set by the fact that only a handful of enemies have the health to survive most attacks) and the PS20 (like a plasma rifle with instant fire, perfect accuracy... but you can only use it once and in the unmoded game, hold only one at a time). A quick Sniper Rifle/pistol shot to the head disposes of most enemies quickly and silently plus their ammo is nowhere near as rare.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c80613dd	comment	Reinforced in New Mazinger. Energy beams cannot pierce through the armor plates of enemy combat machines, but Mazinger's metallic blade can slice them easily. Also, many enemy mechas wield light sabers. Guess who wins every Sword Fight.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c8c98634	comment	Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 plays this straight on an infantry level. For infantry, kinetic weapons are better because they're available! The only man-portable energy weapons are the electricity weapons on the Tesla Troopers (slow rate of fire and rather short-ranged, but devastating against vehicles and infantry) and the Tank-Busters who can easily carve up tanks with their plasma-cutters but do pretty poor damage against infantry. It also plays this straight for ant-air weapons, as missiles and auto-cannons are the best for shooting down aircraft. The Archer Maiden's arrows look like energy bolts but they're really ordinary arrows with a explosive shell for a tip and the Cryo Legionaire only get their anti-aircraft freeze ray if they are garrisoned in a Multi-gun Turret or IFV. For vehicles, this is trope is largely averted, all 3 factions use energy weapons for high-end units because in a world where mad science reigns supreme, energy weapons hit a lot harder. Nothing can match the firepower of the Giga-Fortress, Harbinger Gunship and the Shogun Battleship. And unlike other games, most artillery is energy-based (the Pacifier is kind of a hybrid, it fires bomblets that deliver protonic energy blasts) for reasons of heavier firepower or in the case of the Athen Cannon, better accuracy. Even for the tier 3 tanks, the Apocalypse Tanks dominates because of its "magnetic harpoon" tractor beam, in a pure gun to gun battle it'll barely survive against King Oni and only because it has two cannons to the King Oni's one "blaster" (although it can be argued that the King Oni's single beam attack consists of firing both its eye beams at once). And, for once, there isn't a conventional Nuclear Missile. The Soviets use what's essentially a short-lived Black Hole, the Allies have an Antimatter cannon, and the Empire uses large-scale telekinesis Powered by a Forsaken Child.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c94bade0	comment	In EndWar, the JSF (America)'s WMD is a Kinetic Strike from the Freedom Star space station — basically a large metal rod fired from space. The trailer shows 3 rods being fired at Paris to defeat the Russian forces overwhelming an American battle group.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_c95a117f	comment	Outland: Both criminals and police employ shotguns hardly changed from today. The novelization describes them as being a little more sophisticated than today's weapons, with "sleeker lines and some complex instrumentation built-in." Apparently, the propellant charge can be adjusted: "O'Niel checked the velocity setting, making sure it read INDOORS — CLOSE QUARTERS..."
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_cbf0ee94	comment	EVE Online: Depending on the current patches and balance changes, kinetic weapons may or may not be better than lasers. Actually averted in the case of Caldari missiles. If you look at the parts list, it becomes clear that what the Caldari are shooting at you isn't a Kinetic Impactor, but an artificial Black Hole Generator. Gallente favor kinetic blasters that are essentially particle shotguns. They have extremely high damage but require you to be practically sitting on your target to damage them. Minmatar have artillery, which has a long range and high damage but a massive reload time, and autocannons, with a short range and fairly high damage. These are the typical gun-type kinetic weapons, and as such have accuracy problems (represented by their short optimal but high falloff) but are capable of dealing varied types of damage and have a lot of versatility. Amarr use beam and pulse lasers, which are general-purpose weapons with no particular advantage or disadvantage in combat statistics, having solid damage and medium range. Their main upside is their lack of ammunition use and their ability to quick-change ammunition, but the downside is their high capacitor usage.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_cdeed79a	comment	The classic Car Wars did have lasers, but as a rather expensive weapon. Most combat was with bullets, shells, and rockets. One Splat book calls out lasers as being not used in the military except for things like range finding and detecting.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_cdfaa180	comment	The majority of weapons in Myriad Song are kinetic and in fact very similar to modern-day weapons; the book states that even with how far technology has advanced, few weapons can rival the efficiency of a simple bullet. Consider the alternatives: energy weapons don't use ammo and can be used for hundreds of years, but have a problem with overheating. Then there are xenharmonic weapons, which use long-forgotten and poorly understood technology to attack by creating miniature hyperspace warps... but they're extremely rare and scientists fear that using them could end up destroying the universe.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_cec99ed9	comment	The "Rakurai" orbital bombardment platforms from Safehold were used by Langhorne to wipe out the people who disagreed with his philosophy for running a colony. Dropping large rocks from orbit is pretty effective for wiping out a town and a good part of an island.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d109f322	comment	In Andromeda, most large ships only use energy weapons for point defense; most combat uses relativistic missiles or, at extreme close range, anti-proton cannons. As for hand-held weapons, people typically carry gauss pistols with smart bullets or force lances that can fire mini drones or plasma bursts depending on the situation. Andromeda tries to stretch known physics only as far as necessary. The main sci-fi element in space flight and combat in this series is mass manipulation. Spaceships can fly fast because they can adjust their mass to a tiny fraction of reality, whereas kinetic missile warheads pack a punch by reducing their mass in-flight (to get to 90% speed of light) and then re-amplifying their mass just before impact so they tear through enemy ships (which are thus designed with small parts with lots of open space between so that any kinetic impacts pass clean through and have less chance of impacting a vital area).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d20a9f64	comment	The five star nations in The Pentagon War, particularly Sol, rely heavily on kinetic weapons, primarily electromagnetically launched slugs and high-speed ramming missiles.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d461f757	comment	Battlestar Galactica (2003) uses real-life guns in the show, or at least slightly dressed up ones. Even the starships slug it out like WWII battleships with heavy cannons and walls of small-caliber AA fire, along with nuclear warheads. Commander Adama even tells his XO to "find me some bullets" after all the ammunitions had been removed while prepping the Galactica to become a museum ship. During the briefing prior to the Battle of the Colony, Adama orders the gun crews to keep firing until they run out of ammo, and then to start throwing rocks. The nature of the kinetic weapons (regular guns or railguns), though, was a point of disagreement between the writers and the visual effects team, with most visual evidence pointing to these being the more familiar type of gun/cannon, rather than railguns.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d4f11a60	comment	In one Elite fanfic, an assassin manages to smuggle a disassembled shotgun onto the space station, despite its strict anti-weapon laws, and successfully kills his target. Kinetic weapons became so rare in the galaxy that nobody thought to check for them.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d5166b44	comment	As noted earlier, the UNSC does have laser weaponry, the best known being the Spartan Laser introduced in Halo 3; it is a lot more powerful than normal human weaponry but it takes a long time to charge, uses up its battery quickly, and is tremendously expensive (costing as much as six Warthogs), making it more of an anti-tank weapon than anything else. Even in the post-war era, human laser weapons are still rare and expensive.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d59e2ca4	comment	Quake usually adheres to this, especially Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, seeing that the Armadillo resembles a Humvee, and Titan resembles a real life M1 Abrams Battle tank, aside from the fact that it has a chain gun on top. The helicopters are little more futuristic, though, along with the computer displays inside the Armadillo, the Trojan, and the MCP.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d5e9cf36	comment	XCOM 2 has a similar progression to the previous game, except lasers are replaced entirely by Magnetic Weapons, which the bulk of ADVENT's forces also use.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_d63abde4	comment	The novel Shatterpoint also suggests that slugthrowers in general are more rugged and reliable. Presumably repairing a blaster takes considerable expertise and equipment, while conventional firearms are relatively simple to maintain or repair. This is noted on the wiki's page quote for slugthrowers, an expansion of our page quote for this trope.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_dbbf2001	comment	In Prince Roger, while plasma weapons are available for use by personnel, more common are pistols and rifles that drive glass beads to hypersonic velocities. For space combat, mass missile salvoes are the norm.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_dc25de3f	comment	Portal loves bullets so much, they fire the WHOLE Bullet. That's 65% More Bullet, Per Bullet.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_de8ae019	comment	The Star Carrier series uses kinetic weapons heavily, though in conjunction with nuclear warheads and Energy Weapons. In particular, two capital ships in the America battle group are described as using railguns for their primary weapons, and in addition to their other armaments SG-92 Starhawks are armed with Gatling railguns that fire steel-jacketednote so the magnetic fields have something to launch it with depleted uranium slugs. America herself sometimes uses her fighter launch catapults to accelerate slugs instead. There's also the non-standard tricks Lt. Trevor Gray has used with AMSO canisters, fighter-scale anti-missile countermeasures filled with "sand" (actually nodules of degenerate matter).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e4732abc	comment	Averted in ship-to-ship combat. Rail guns are, at best, useful as point-defense and anti-fighter weapons, and Tau'ri ships are seriously outgunned until they got the extremely powerful Asgard plasma beam cannons. The nukes are kept, too, because there's always something that needs to be nuked. The reason railguns seem weak in Stargate Atlantis is probably that the targets they are used against are freaking humongous. Those hives do pack some bulk, after all. Not to mention that they have a great deal of experience fighting the Ancients and their vastly superior kinetic kill weapons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e5667f2	comment	The web forum Sufficient Velocity got its name from this trope, after numerous debates on its sibling site SpaceBattles.com on the general subject of "how many X do you need to destroy Y?" were resolved with an answer of "One, traveling at sufficient velocity."
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e5aa8437	comment	Nitemare 3D: The pistol is the only weapon in the game that can hit a target instantaneously instead of waiting for a slow projectile to cross the room. The other weapons are intended to be more efficient with ammo — your wand should drop magic-based enemies or your blaster tech-based ones using fewer shots than the equivalent in silver bullets, which only gets an advantage specifically against vampires. There are just enough bullets around that it doesn't matter much, though.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e5c5bc22	comment	GURPS: Kinetic weapons generally do far more raw damage than energy weapons. Early lasers are also very dangerous to use as the chemical fumes slowly kill the wielder. In fact, this trope is enshrined within the GURPS rules. The developers calculate weapon damage based on the square root of energy for kinetic weapons and the cube root of energy for beam weapons. The Transhuman Space setting exemplifies the trope even more than the main generic rules. It's a near-ish future setting with fairly realistically plausible power supply/battery technologies. That means that lasers make poor personal weapons (though there are a very few); firearms still work just fine. Less-than-lethal "electrolasers" exist as a useful option, though. On the other hand, energy weapons are generally far more accurate than their kinetic counterparts, possess the lowest (and best) Recoil statistics, can hold truly prodigious amounts of shots per battery/energy cell, fare better against machines (Burning damage is not reduced the way Piercing damage is against the unliving) and ultimately output the most damage at the highest Tech Levels.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e5fd2cef	comment	Lensman: The series is acrawl with energy weapons, but minimally or non-portable heavy machine guns ("high calibre machine rifles") are still useful weapons against soldiers in personal armour. Kim Kinnison has an unfortunate encounter with one of these and barely gets away with his life. The next time he goes where angels fear to tread, he wears a suit of armour so heavy it has to be power-driven, and he first takes pains to demonstrate its immunity to ammo 20% over what he encountered previously. Later in the canon, he actually uses the kinetic energy of a bullet stream to tilt his opponent's armor off balance and expose him, which he couldn't have done with an energy weapon. Conway Costigan uses a combination energy rifle (implied to be more powerful than the standard-issue blaster) and grenade launcher against the unnamed saboteur in Triplanetary. When even the energy rifle takes too long against the saboteur's personal shield, Costigan loses his patience, fires the grenade and blows his opponent into a fine mist. At this stage, the Triplanetary Patrol is still using a mixture of shell-firing guns and energy beams on some of its ships (specifically the armed liner Hyperion). Later in the same book, there is a tractor-beam tug of war between enemy ships, and physics does come into play because the tug of war ends not due to any of the tractor beams failing but because one ship was using a tractor beam to anchor into the ground, but the opposing ship pulled so hard the plug of earth caught in the beam simply got pulled out of the ground. Later still, the trope is played with again: this time combining a shaped energy shield with inertia to penetrate another shield. The reason why kinetic weapons maintain prominence is that the energy shields of the Lensman universe only work against things approaching at or near the speed of light (e.g. energy beams). Thus, kinetic weapons and especially the trusty space ax (that's right, a melee weapon) actually subvert energy shields because they're too slow. Then the whole business gets tossed aside as combat goes increasingly beyond standard physics (ship combat begins using anti-matter bombs while personal combat goes increasingly psionic). This even applies in ship-to-ship and larger scale combat. Energy beams are all well and good, and constantly improving in the trope-naming Lensman Arms Race, but if you really need to squash a heavily defended target, you hit it with a high-speed planet or two.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e6267766	comment	As for Star Wars Legends: Various literary stories try to explain how this was averted by the fact that plastoid armor could No-Sell most bullets, yet not blasters. This was almost never shown, in fact in some instances this is directly contradicted (see below). More often than not if a firearm was used on page it was explicitly capable of piercing plastoid armor. For example, the .48 caliber Enforcer pistol was stated as capable of piercing heavy body armor. While this would be a relatively high caliber pistol, heavy modern body armor would certainly be able to stop such a round.note For comparison, a Desert Eagle in .50 AE masses about the same and fires a slightly larger round with similar recoil, indicating similar muzzle energy. Class IIIA body armor (the highest rating for soft body armor) can generally stop such a round, although there could still be considerable injuries depending on where it was hit. Class III or IV body armor (hard armor intended to stop rifle rounds) would certainly be able to stop such a round Even the Protector Revolver, which is noted as a relatively primitive firearm, is still deadly against light and medium armor. Revolvers Are Just Better, even in the Star Wars verse. It's been said that the ubiquity of blasters also increased the use of slugthrower by making heavy body armor useless. If the vast majority of people are using blasters there isn't really any benefit to carrying around heavy armor to try and be bulletproof. Of course, this directly contradicts the concept above that plastoid armor is highly effective against slugthrowers. The novel Shatterpoint also suggests that slugthrowers in general are more rugged and reliable. Presumably repairing a blaster takes considerable expertise and equipment, while conventional firearms are relatively simple to maintain or repair. This is noted on the wiki's page quote for slugthrowers, an expansion of our page quote for this trope. Shatterpoint also features the DOKAW (De-Orbiting Kinetic Anti-emplacement Weapon), a hundred-kilo hunk of durasteel that falls from space to hit the ground at ten kilometers per second. In the novel Before the Storm, the New Republic Fifth Battle Group goes on a live-fire military exercise against a moon armed with a hypervelocity gun, an anti-orbital weapon which is a mass accelerator rather than an energy weapon. More of them turn up in the Star Wars RTS Empire at War. Remains true, somewhat humorously, for the various attachments for your Swiss-Army Weapon in Star Wars: Republic Commando. Of the three common attachments available, the only explicitly energy based one, the SMG equivalent, is the weakest. The sniper attachment fires metal bolts via an electromagnetic/plasma sheath system (similar to how Wookiee bowcasters work), and the anti-armor attachment simply spits a big armor-piercing grenade at a target. While they have less ammo overall, these attachments, along with a variety of specialty grenades, are substantially more useful than the SMG, which will often take an entire magazine just to put a dent in a Super Battle Droid. The other energy weapon that you will usually have is your blaster pistol, but that's hardly worth the effort.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e694aadb	comment	Subverted in Ciaphas Cain. Ciaphas much prefers his regular laspistol to a bolt pistol (ubiquitous among commissars) for several reasons: Lasguns have a much greater number of shots, are more accurate, and the noise they make (while useful for drawing attention to the guardsman you just executed for cowardice) draws enemy attention (not to mention that he's never had to shoot anyone for insubordination).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e7afca1f	comment	In Infinite Space, missiles, quantum torpedoes and the rail cannon, linear cannon and mass drivers of Escondido all bypass the deflector module, which blocks lasers and plasma.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e7e37776	comment	Firefly is set some 500 years into the future. Projectile weapons are mainly used (though with a different sound effect than contemporary guns), since they are cheaper and more reliable than energy weapons. Hand-held energy weapons do show up at a few points: In "Ariel", as Jayne and the Tams flee the Hands of Blue, Jayne fails to blast open a locked door by shooting it with a high-tech sonic stun rifle. A moment later, Mal and Zoe shoot out the lock from the other side with good old kinetic slugthrowers. That said, the sonic weapons seemed to be designed for non-lethal takedowns, so you can't really fault a weapon specifically designed not to cause property damage for failing to cause property damage. The target of the heist in "Trash" is a valuable antique prototype laser. However, when the time comes, Inara tries to shoot her and fails, instead pulling out her own piece. Logically, though, a display piece wouldn't be kept loaded in the first place. In "Heart of Gold", a rich cowboy got himself an illegally modified laser pistol which causes some severe harm but becomes useless once the battery runs out. The Word of God explanation is that the reason why energy weapons are rare is that they have a tendency to cut through solid metal, which is an undesirable effect when you live on a spaceship.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e89f120b	comment	In the meta-series, it is a very notable example of this trope, especially the transition from the original Mobile Suit Gundam from the late '70s, where beam weaponry was simultaneously the Infinity +1 Sword over kinetic weapons (the Gundam was the first mobile suit to have a beam rifle, and it was the reason it one-shot everything Zeon could throw at it) but also almost ridiculously prevalent (even basic Federation Red Shirts had beam weaponry by the time a mass-produced version of the Gundam started to see combat about halfway through) through to later Universal Century series early in the '80s (Zeta, ZZ) where beam weaponry all but entirely replaced machine guns, and then to the second half of the '80s (Char's Counterattack, 0080) and mostly through the '90s (0083, 08th MS Team) where kinetic weapons like rockets, gatling cannons, and the like became much more prevalent, with beam weaponry still appearing and being incredibly dangerous (0083 shows a Gelgoog's beam rifle taking out a cruiser in one shot), but usually being extremely rare and expensive (the 08th Team only gets beam rifles late in their series), having actual countermeasures (several late-series suits in 0083 have devices to generate "I-fields" which completely nullify beam weapons that hit them), or just being Awesome, but Impractical (0080 takes place almost entirely in a colony, so guns that don't punch big holes in it and kill everyone are the order of the day).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_e9cb2780	comment	Gears of War: The COG have access to energy weapons, evidenced by the Hammer of Dawn Kill Sat, however in terms of infantry firepower, it's all projectiles. The Locust weapons are also projectile-based.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_ea53c8ea	comment	In The Course of Empire, the Jao and the Ekhat are used to laser and plasma weapons, and their armor and force fields are geared for reflecting laser or deflecting plasma. They are thus vulnerable to raw kinetic force, making "primitive" human artillery very effective.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_eaba50a1	comment	In The Pride of Parahumans, the protagonists' ship uses coilguns to deflect meteors because "hitting a stray rock with a fast-moving iron slug tended to get it out of the way a lot faster than melting it with a beam of concentrated light". Also, they're cheaper.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_ed2a7866	comment	In Sword Art Online, the game Gun Gale Online has two types of weapons: Energy weapons and physical weapons. Energy weapons always shoot straight without worrying about wind and have lightweight ammunition, but energy shields automatically cut their damage in half, and all players have those. Physical weapons ignore shields, but their projectiles are affected by wind and their ammo is heavy and bulky. Therefore, energy weapons are only used against monsters, which don't have shields.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_ee04f49a	comment	Deus Ex Universe: The only energy weapons in Deus Ex are the Awesome, but Impractical Plasma Rifle (all the fire rate of a cannon, poor accuracy unless you are a master in heavy weapons, slows you down and most of the time, its power is off set by the fact that only a handful of enemies have the health to survive most attacks) and the PS20 (like a plasma rifle with instant fire, perfect accuracy... but you can only use it once and in the unmoded game, hold only one at a time). A quick Sniper Rifle/pistol shot to the head disposes of most enemies quickly and silently plus their ammo is nowhere near as rare. Deus Ex: Invisible War still follows this trope, although it takes the Universal Ammunition route. This is hand waved by saying that the ammo is formed from nanites that form the type of ammo that is needed for the gun. The weapon itself contains the dedicated micro factory needed to configure the programmable matter. A variety of energy weapons are available in Deus Ex: Human Revolution that are Awesome, but Impractical for most uses. The Direct Energy Rifle fires a pinpoint-accurate beam that can penetrate walls and obstacles, while the Plasma Lance launches blobs of energy along an ionized trail. In addition, there's also the P.E.P.S., which is essentially a short-ranged, (mostly) less-than-lethal plasma weapon that knocks down its targets. Despite their power, they take up a lot of inventory space, tend to be pretty loud, are rather hard to find ammo for, and are generally obtained late in the game. That said, they're not truly useless. The Direct Energy Rifle can be combined with some tracking augmentations to eliminate enemies through walls without ever being seen and can also bypass the shields on the final boss, finishing the fight in seconds, while the P.E.P.S. can be used to push aside heavy objects without needing to unlock the requisite strength augmentation.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f0047778	comment	Void Dogs uses the abbreviation KEG for firearms, short for Kinetic Energy Gun.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f01c0730	comment	In RCN, warships use kinetic missiles as their primary weapon, with plasma being a secondary weapon. Plasma disperses far too quickly to be used at normal combat ranges, while the missiles become much more powerful the further away the target is (because they carry no warhead, their damage is based purely on velocity, and further targets give more time for acceleration). Personal weapons in the RCN vary but most of the ones shown are magnetic pellet guns.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f1853fcd	comment	Kinetic weapons are the big thing in Cannon God Exaxxion. While lasers are common, they cannot penetrate the Deflector Shields used in the series since they are based on Artificial Gravity tech & can thus redirect lasers using the gravitational lensing effect. Notably that's the exact opposite of how things should work: solid projectiles would be much easier to affect with gravity. They do give a Hand Wave of sorts for this, in that the shields are not really based on gravity so much as inertia. Anything with less inertia than the shield can generate is deflected away, including lasers, since they're effectively massless, while anything with more inertia, like bullets traveling at a significant fraction of c. plows right on through.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f189f12e	comment	In Vega Strike, Magnetic Weapons are the most power-efficient weapons, have decent rate of fire and do some shield-bypassing damage, so they are good choice, though mostly in close combat. Same for rockets, and they don't even use ship's energy. Lasers usually pierce shields better, don't need ammo, and hit at a greater range, but eat lots of power and can be installed only on heavy fighters and larger combat vessels. Their shield-bypassing properties also make them very annoying when going up against Luddites: their low-caliber mass drivers aren't very deadly, but almost guaranteed to make the player pay for armor repair.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f27404a0	comment	In The Conduit, although the Drudge and Trust weapons are extremely powerful, they tend to suffer from Crippling Overspecialization, as well as limited ammo supplies or other features often rendering them Awesome, but Impractical. Very often, you'll find yourself using plain old normal-tech human weapons, simply because they're much more versatile and more practical in most situations. The sequel has some upgrade blurbs which make reference to this trope. However, it's obvious that they're told from a completely biased perspective and Played for Laughs.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f391e19e	comment	Largely averted in Cleopatra 2525, but played straight in one episode. One of the characters turns out to be a Thaw — someone frozen back in the 20-21st centuries and recently found and revived. The guy still has his 9mm, which he cleans and maintains every day. Nobody else uses ballistic weapons in the 26th century. So, when the episode's bad guy turns on an impenetrable shield, Sarge pulls out the gun and shoots him, the shield not being calibrated to stop projectiles.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f4fa693a	comment	In Quantum Vibe, Nicole buys an ordinary gun after her "zringer" is disrupted by muggers. It also proves useful for maneuvering in space.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f5be121	comment	In Beyond This Horizon, the hero uses an "old fashioned" .45 pistol when every other man in his society uses some form of laser or similar pistol because he likes it and the noise is extremely disorienting to his enemies, who expect a silent gun.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f6cd341d	comment	Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon: The cannon type weapons: Carronades, Laser Cannons and Plasma Cannons (which despite their names, function like and appear to be kinetic weapons) all deal much higher damage per shot than the game's true energy weapons (Lancers) when they are of the equivalent weight class, as well as being cheaper (with the exception of Plasma Cannons), making kinetic weapons a more cost effective option. Averted with Heavy Lancers however, which are as effective (if not quite as powerful) as their kinetic counterparts. Certainly the case with the Royal Navy, as the only Lancers they have access to are Light Lancers, which is one of the weakest weapons in the game, which makes kinetic weapons preferable on a Royal Navy ship.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f74b5f80	comment	In the discontinued Babylon 5 Wars tabletop game, kinetic weapons ignored armor and did standard damage, which means that you could deal the attack's full damage to the component you hit, so if you hit the hull, there was a good chance you could tear a giant chunk out of it. Its main downside was that if you hit a less-than-vital component (like one forward gun out of thirty), then the damage would not transfer to the hull like the other weapon types.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_f7656e2f	comment	In Lost Planet, energy weapons draw energy from the same reserves your environmental suit uses to keep you from burning to a cinder or freezing solid. In the sequel, you can use abilities that reduces costs from the energy weapons.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_fa5e90fd	comment	In City of Heroes, you have access to a ridiculous number of ranged damage sets. Most of these are elemental or energy based, but three (Archery, Assault Rifle, and Dual Pistols) rely solely on kinetic weaponry. While firing a bow and Arrow isn't as cool as Playing with Fire, the Weapon Sets certainly aren't starving for damage. They also have a unique advantage in the fact that their "Nuke" powers don't leave their users exhausted.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_fa77d43c	comment	Terminator Salvation adheres to this trope and is set years before the other future scenes seen in the other Terminator movies (which do feature energy weapons), so perhaps handheld energy weapons haven't been invented yet. However, the giant robot seems to have an energy weapon of some sort.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_fb9fefa6	comment	In Hc Svnt Dracones, all personal ranged weapons except the non-lethal "Purge Wave" fire some sort of projectile, whether it be bullets, grenades, arrows, poisoned slivers, burning fuel, explosive bullets, or the 50-credit apiece shells fired by a Mag-Lance. Energy weapons only appear in spaceship combat, where lasers are more expensive and have a lower rate of fire than railguns but have longer range and deal more damage per hit, while particle fields deal massive damage to everything in the one hex directly in front of the ship.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_fbc44b8a	comment	Great Mazinger reinforces this trope. Unlike Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger has no Eye Beams (although it gets Thunder Break in exchange). However, it keeps the missile launchers in the midsection. Tetsuya is the one who introduced the Heroes Prefer Swords trope into Humongous Mecha, and most of Great Mazinger's weapons are bladed.
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_fc612179	comment	Dick Seaton from the Skylark Series has invented interstellar travel, a repulsor field of sorts and a mechanism for the generation of unlimited energy, but until he meets Sufficiently Advanced Aliens, his Skylark of Space is dependent upon .50 calibre machine guns for its armament (albeit with ludicrously potent ammunition). Played straight in that when the ship is attacked by an alien beast he can't use the super-bullets in his handgun for fear of wrecking it, and the situation is saved by the last remaining crewmember loading and firing solids. Hand-to-hand fights on the ground continue to be sorted out by projectile small arms right to the end of the series; even when Seaton's grasp of beam weapon technology has evolved to almost godlike levels of capability (and at the same time as the author was writing stun guns and hand blasters into the Family d'Alembert universe).
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_ff04a417	comment	Averted in Grey Goo (2015), as the humans play the role of Sufficiently Advanced Aliens, with all the energy weaponry that implies. One character has this to say about the relative primitiveness of the Beta: "They still use bullets in their guns."
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Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better / int_ffc6c28f	comment	Mostly averted in the novel, as kinetic weapons are widely used for training, but rarely for the actual combat. The Mobile Infantry instead prefer to use conventional explosives, huge flamethrowers, and miniature tactical nukes, all of which we see used in the first few pages of the book alone. The Pseudo-Arachnids, who do use beam weaponry, are notably inferior to the Mobile Infantry on a 1v1 basis.
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Dune / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Eldraeverse / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Frontlines / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Here Be Dragons / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
I Am Number Four / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
In Fury Born / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Karl Sabers Space Knight / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Kris Longknife / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Legend of the Galactic Heroes / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Matador Series / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Out of the Dark / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
RCN / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Reborn as a Space Mercenary: I Woke Up Piloting the Strongest Starship! / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Redliners / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Republic Commando Series / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Riesel Tales: Two Hunters / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Shatterpoint / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Slingshot / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Space Cadet (Rvbomally) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Space Captain Smith / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Carrier / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Trek: Destiny / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Starship Troopers / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Anglo/American â€“ Nazi War / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Black Fleet Crisis / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Citizen Series / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Demon Princes / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Icarus Hunt / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Killing Star / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Lost Fleet / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Mako Saga / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Nameless War / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Nature of Predators / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Occupation Saga / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Sun Eater / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
VALKYRIE: Into The Heavens / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
We Are Legion (We Are Bob) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
ActionChatroom	seeAlso	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Earth2150	seeAlso	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Gun Kata / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
LegoBattles	seeAlso	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
LostPlanet	seeAlso	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Cannon God Exaxxion (Manga) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Magical Record Lyrical Nanoha Force (Manga) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Mazinger Angels (Manga) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
New Mazinger (Manga) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Tropes G to M / Real Life / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Destroy the Godmodder (Roleplay) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Prophesies Destinies And Killing Gods (Roleplay) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Wrath of the Gempire (Roleplay) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Battlestar Galactica (2003) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Cleopatra 2525 / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Earth 2 / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Firefly / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
GURPS (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Car Wars (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Dropzone Commander (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Eclipse Phase (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Full Thrust (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Gramarie System (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Hc Svnt Dracones (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Myriad Song (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Necromunda (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Only War (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Rifts (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Squadron Strike (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Stars Without Number (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Strike Legion (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Transhuman Space (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Traveller (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
2300 AD (Tabletop Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Allegiance (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Allegiance (2000) (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Apex Legends (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Azure Striker Gunvolt Series (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Battlefield 2142 (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Borderlands (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Call of Duty: Ghosts (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Celestus (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Chaser (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Civilization: Call to Power (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Contra (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Cortex Command (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Cosmoteer (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Crusader (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Dark Colony (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Descent (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Destiny (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Destiny 2 (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Distant Worlds (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Duke Nukem 3D (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Dune: Spice Wars (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
EVE Online (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Earth Defense Force 2025 (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Empire at War (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
FTL: Faster Than Light (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Fire Warrior (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Gears of War (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Girls' Frontline (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Gratuitous Space Battles (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Halo Infinite (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Hideous Destructor (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Iji (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Imperium Nova (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Iron Storm (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Jets'n'Guns (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Machines: Wired For War (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Marathon (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Marauders (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Master of Orion (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Mecha Knights Nightmare (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Metal Max (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Metroid: Other M (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
N (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Oddworld (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Phantasy Star Online (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Planet Alcatraz (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
PlanetSide (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
RimWorld (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Roboquest (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Sins of a Solar Empire (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Space Rangers (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Conflict (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Control (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
StarFlight (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Trek Text Game (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Wars: Battlefront (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Starlancer (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Starsector (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Starship Troopers (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Steel Battalion (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Strike Commander (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
System Shock (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Terminator Dark Fate - Defiance (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Titanfall (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Treasure Planet: Battle at Procyon (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
UFO: After Blank (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
UFO: Alien Invasion (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Vanquish (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Vega Strike (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
War Robots (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Wargame: AirLand Battle (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Warhammer 40,000: Chaos Gate (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Wasteland 2 (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
XCOM: Enemy Unknown (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Elite: Dangerous / Videogame / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Lost Planet / Videogame / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Sunrider (Visual Novel) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Kurzgesagt (Web Animation) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
The Sojourn (Web Animation) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Freeman's Mind (Web Video) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Crimson Dark (Webcomic) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Spacetrawler (Webcomic) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Terra (Webcomic) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
21st Century Fox (Webcomic) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Multiverses Wiki (Website) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Expelled from Paradise / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Savage Dragon (Comic Book) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Space Empires (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Star Ruler (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better
Sword of the Stars (Video Game) / int_ccab244d	type	Kinetic Weapons Are Just Better

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