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Mainstream Obscurity

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Mainstream Obscurity	comment	Mainstream Obscurity is what happens to a famous successful work intended for a wide general audience, that succeeds so well and becomes so known, that paradoxically, despite its fame, it remains relatively unknown to the general public. Sure it lands on every critic's top 10 list, has a fantastic word of mouth on many amateur review sites, and is one of the most truly well-known works in media, and some part of the media (the Iconic Outfit, Iconic Item, Signature Scene) is known by Pop-Cultural Osmosis. Thing is, these elements become so overexposed that a lot of people might think they've seen it, or might even feel they don't have to see it, but individuals can't name things about it beyond these famous well-known aspects. A good example is a famous witticism that an intellectual is someone who can listen to Gioachino Rossini's William Tell Overture without thinking of The Lone Ranger note on account of the fact that the finale of Rossini's overture became a Standard Snippet used by the famous TV show, becoming associated with The Wild West despite the fact that it derives from an Italian opera about a Swiss rebel, which, being that it's an opera, has a smaller audience. When the work has become so famous that "everybody else knows about it", yet no one has actually read or been exposed to that work, that work is wallowing in Mainstream Obscurity. People, groups, art movements, and entire genres can also be swallowed by Mainstream Obscurity. A "famous author" can be widely read, best-selling but largely unread, widely quote-mined, or just well known for "being an author". Iconic movie stars have their image reproduced in so many other places that it is easy to recognize their faces or get what part of them is being parodied and alluded to, without having to ever watch any of the movies they starred in. If a character portrayed by an actor (or that version of a character, if an adaptation) becomes more famous than their portrayer, the actor's name may be completely unknown to all except trivia buffs and paradoxically lead to extreme typecasting to the extent that an actor can't escape being pigeonholed, or rather mine it for the rest of their life. Likewise, people can be widely aware of an artistic movement or genre, but unable to describe what it was about. For this trope to hold meaning, a few conditions need to be met. It must be mainstream. Defining the mainstream is hard but a workable definition is that what is mainstream is the general knowledge and awareness in culture and society that people can have without having to go out of their way. A work for general audiences appeals to people who may not have, for instance, played other games, known or seen or heard of other works in said genre or other works in the said franchise, and likewise never have read a comic book, or listened to albums and artists of the given music genre. Likewise, one should not assume that a work is more famous than it actually is. Some works are likely not intended for mainstream appeal or mainstream audiences in the first place. For instance, works of philosophy, science, anthropology, and other social sciences, are not intended to be best-sellers, they are meant to be read and perused by peers and educated readers, and are likewise published in philosophical and scientific journals. Some scientists and philosophers owing to their great social and political influence end up becoming famous, their witticisms become proverbial in society by Memetic Mutation and so become a "known name" to people outside their field, but the fact is their works were never reasonably and realistically expected to be read unhindered by the non-specialist. So for instance, while Darwin is a famous scientist, and one cannot call him obscure simply because the majority of people who know his name haven't read his works. It would only be obscure if he is unknown among scientists and biologists, which obviously is not true. Works from obscure fields or appealing to a rarefied demographic such as exploitation films, children's cartoons, Le Film Artistique are likewise not intended for mainstream appeal. The fact that some works become famous and known outside their intended audience is a case of coming Out of the Ghetto or having a Multiple Demographic Appeal rather than truly being obscure. Likewise, School Study Media features works and authors include bestselling authors from the 19th Century, and while many of them were once mainstream and obscure today, their appeal is strictly True Art Is Ancient. The reverse of Fan Myopia. Often happens when a Cult Classic becomes so well known for being a cult classic (due to Popcultural Osmosis) that the cult classic becomes mainstream. They may have started as an Acclaimed Flop. This can, of course, lead to Adaptation Displacement and Beam Me Up, Scotty! and also often results in Common Knowledge. See also Praising Shows You Don't Watch, where people, well, do exactly that. Some of these can also be well-known for historical controversy. See also Small Reference Pools. Also see Unbuilt Trope where works which are well known and famous tend to surprise people who decide to actually learn about stuff, likewise, Lost in Imitation where certain works are adapted so often, and often based on certain well-known additions rather than the original work. For the inverse, see Obscure Popularity, which is when the work has a large following despite being obscure beyond it. See also The Theme Park Version, which describes how certain events, people, and figures are Flanderized to a series of signs. A No Recent Examples rule applies to this trope. Examples shouldn't be added until 20 years after the work's initial release.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1080767d	comment	Ravi Shankar: The world's most famous and recognizable Indian musician. Most people will know him through his association with The Beatles but are unaware that he already had a long career before he met them and/or that he didn't simply vanish from existence after the 1960s were over. Classic movie fans know him for his work as a composer on Satyajit Ray's films.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_12300cc3	comment	Watchmen by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons is interesting in that many people think that it's more mainstream and less obscure than it really is. While the original comic was a success, it never sold as well as Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and for that matter John Byrne's The Man of Steel and it had far less of a cultural impact than The Death of Superman. The adult content and lack of recognizable names, as well as the dependence on a certain familiarity with superhero concepts, gave it a unique niche that made it successful and influential on media creators but it never became a "brand" despite remaining in print since the '80s. Zack Snyder's film was likewise a commercial failure, albeit it still informs most people's ideas of Watchmen even if it made more than a few notable changes despite being generally faithful to the plot and look of the book.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_133f0a53	comment	Detailed information about Kanon doesn't come up very often either, outside of internet memes like the infamously-Off-Model "am I kawaii uguu face" (which was actually the 2006 version edited to look like the lower-budget 2002 version). At least with the other two in the series (AIR and CLANNAD), people can name one or two plot points or characters, but they don't even know that "uguu" is actually from something.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1449a8e8	comment	Dirty Harry is often considered the one of the best gritty cop movie, and is so well known that to this day people make Dirty Harry references whenever Clint Eastwood's name is mentioned. Everyone knows that Eastwood played the role, and they know that he said: "Go ahead, make my day" when begging a perp to give him an excuse to shoot him. They're also familiar with his catchphrase "You feelin' lucky, punk?", even though that's not what he said, nor was it a catchphrase. They know he and his chief were constantly at odds, and...that's about it. Your average person could not name any of the films aside from the first one, the supporting cast, or even Harry's last name! (Callahan, for the record.)
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_16712475	comment	The Jetsons fall into this similarly. Everyone can recognize the family of the future, and most people can also recognize their household robot Rosie (sometimes also George's boss, Mr. Spacely). But how many have actually watched a single episode of the show, or can name any of the secondary characters?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_16a43fa1	comment	In general, most older video game adaptations seem to be better known for their So Bad, It's Good and Watch It for the Meme status rather than having any genuine fans actually engaged in the show. The number of people who've actually watched Donkey Kong Country for its plot likely pales in comparison to the number of people who know about the show due to its Fountain of Memes status, courtesy of its bizarre animation, zany quotes, and surprisingly catchy songs. Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! (and by extension, The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World (1991)) are in a spate of being exclusively known for being YouTube Poop fodder. While people are generally aware that The Legend of Zelda (1989) cartoon exists, most wouldn't be able to tell you much of anything about it beyond Link's infamous catchphrase. People who know about Captain N: The Game Master typically know it's about an Earth kid getting sucked into a world where all his favorite NES games are real, and that it's full of wacky inaccuracies and creative liberties in characterization and designs (green Mega Man, the hero of Kid Icarus (1986) being named "Kid Icarus" instead of Pit, "Metroid" being the name of a planet instead of a species, and everything about the show's take on Simon Belmont), and... that's it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_19abbeb9	comment	Most people in the USA may know that The Smurfs, Tintin, and Asterix are universally popular European comics, but know next to nothing about it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1a4b3ea2	comment	Digimon is well-known as PokÃ©mon's rival series note given the existence of Digimon virtual pet toys â€” think Tamagotchis â€” in 1997 before PokÃ©mon had gotten popular, it's more likely that the marketing was simply done similarly to leech onto PokÃ©mon's success â€” and that's about it. It's rather impressive to be able to even name one Digimon, much less several. note In case you're stuck in a conversation like this, important Digimon include Agumon, Palmon, Patamon, Biyomon, and Guilmon. If you need to recognize them, they look like a yellow-orange dinosaur, a plant thing, a rodent with bat wings for ears, a pink bird, and a red dinosaur. To add, Digimon itself is only seen as a "rival" of PokÃ©mon in America. In Japan, the people know the two are completely different franchises with different focus despite both having Mons. Within the Digimon franchise itself is Renamon, who is extremely popular in furry fanart, but many of these fanartists haven't actually seen ''Tamers'' or even any ''Digimon'' series.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1a8d65a3	comment	Raggedy Ann was one of the earliest big merchandising successes, dating back to 1915, and has had numerous adaptations throughout the numerous decades that followed, including storybooks, animated shorts by the Fleischer brothers, a feature-length animated movie which featured the voice of Didi Conn, a stage musical, animated TV specials produced by Chuck Jones, and a short-lived animated TV series. However, most people under a certain age only know of the dolls, and maybe the aforementioned movie as well. It doesn't help that the property is also associated with things such as the Annabelle doll (a supposedly haunted Raggedy Ann doll that inspired a series of films).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1bdeba5a	comment	X-Men: There's really no question that Wolverine is the most well-known X-Man. But most people do not know that he was not a founding member of the team, and that in fact the team was nearly fifteen years old before he became a part of it, or that he was introduced, not in any mutant-related story but in an issue of The Incredible Hulk. The idea that the X-Men are students being trained by Professor Xavier pretty much died in the late 70s when the team was separated from the Professor, learned to function as a team of adults without him, and later stated when he returned that they did not consider themselves to be students any longer. If you only saw the films, this might lead you to believe they transitioned into becoming teachers instead, but this did not happen until 1991 in the comics, over a decade after leaving the "student" label behind. Instead, the 80s introduced a new generation of students and called them The New Mutants to distinguish them from the X-Men. For most of the 1980s, the X-Men weren't associated with the school at all, and when they were, it was as a "graduate" team. For your average person, if they know Magneto at all, they know him as the X-Men's greatest foe. They don't know that he has gone back and forth from villain to hero multiple times over the decades, and that he has, in fact, been a member of the team, even if this meant sometimes functioning as the Token Evil Teammate. These days, he's part of the team's governing council and is used much more often as a sympathetic character than a villain. On the other hand, those who do realize he was a team member believe that he and Charles Xavier were old friends and co-founded the school together. This is thanks to the movies popularizing this notion. Magneto and Xavier did know each other when they were younger and were friends for a brief while before realizing their views of human/mutant relations were irreconcilable, and went their separate ways many years before Xavier founded his school or went looking for students. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are often assumed to be associated with the X-Men. This is in large part due to them having been introduced in the early X-Men comics regularly being portrayed as such in animated adaptations and alternate universes (such as Age of Apocalypse, Ultimate Marvel, and 1602), their being Magneto's children being one of the most well-known facts about them, and the latter's most well-known story being House of M. In practice, Pietro tends to have only irregular spells in X-titles (most notably X-Factor) and Wanda almost never appears in them outside of broader Marvel Universe crossovers.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1bf83ffb	comment	Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus. Although the book is sometimes read in schools, most people know so little about the original story that they confuse the names of the creator and the creature. Many people would be surprised to learn that Frankenstein's monster is actually a genius, or that the original text is much more tragedy than horror, or — most startlingly of all — that there is no Igor.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1c334568	comment	Not too many people will think of The Walking Dead comic book without immediately thinking of the show.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1cc04adf	comment	The War of the Worlds by Orson Welles is known for the famous panic attack that convinced people of New Jersey that a real alien invasion was imminent. Not many have actually heard the broadcast or appreciated how radical and revolutionary its use of sound and narrative is, or that it's a fairly faithful adaptation of H. G. Wells' book.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1e3b270	comment	Capcom's Darkstalkers has a cult following over the years, but is solely known for Morrigan Aensland, the sexier-than-sex succubus who has appeared in more crossover games than her own. Good luck finding someone who can name any other characters besides maybe Lilith, her moe sister or Felicia, a near-nude Cat Girl. Possibly Hsien-Ko as well due to her appearance in Marvel vs. Capcom 3, and Jedah for appearing in Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. They probably won't know anything about the gameplay either. For non-fighting game enthusiasts, the series is Best Known for the Fanservice and not much else.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_1ffa9e7	comment	Now and Then, Here and There is mentioned a lot, but watched as much as Grave of the Fireflies. And for good reason.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_20eec977	comment	Story of Seasons fans are quick to cite Harvest Moon 64 as the best game in the franchise, and as one of the better games on the Nintendo 64, but few fans have actually played it. Most fans began around Friends of Mineral Town or later. It took a long time for the game to be released on Virtual Console and it is an expensive Nintendo 64 title, so Keep Circulating the Tapes was a problem for fans who wanted to play it. With the release of Stardew Valley, you can find a whole lot of people with opinions and "familiarity" with the Harvest Moon franchise solely via the homage-imitation that Stardew Valley is, assuming it's just identical in terms of gameplay.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_22d87fc9	comment	That '70s Show: Although it still is a Cult Classic, mainstream audiences probably know it better as the show that Ashton Kutcher, Mila Kunis, and "that girl from Orange Is the New Black" (Laura Prepon) were on before becoming more famous.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2350acad	comment	Cheers was and still is considered to be one of the best sitcoms ever made. However, aside from the much-lauded pilot, the iconic finale, and a few episodes, most notably the episode about Cliff appearing on Jeopardy, you will very seldom hear a lot of discussion about the show anymore. The show's fanbase isn't quite as active as many other sitcom fanbases like Seinfeld (itself quite suffering from this), Friends, or even Cheers' own spinoff Frasier. In fact, one could suggest that Frasier has supplanted Cheers in popularity and iconic status, as there are likely a number of people (especially from younger generations) who are unaware the two series are related.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_23d2ea71	comment	The number of people who've actually watched Donkey Kong Country for its plot likely pales in comparison to the number of people who know about the show due to its Fountain of Memes status, courtesy of its bizarre animation, zany quotes, and surprisingly catchy songs.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_23fb64e6	comment	Air: Everybody knows that Misuzu dies, but not many have actually watched a single episode of the series or played the original VN, even after it was fan-translated. And while we're in the same universe, CLANNAD ~After Story~. How many people can mention anything other than Nagisa's and Ushio's deaths? Detailed information about Kanon doesn't come up very often either, outside of internet memes like the infamously-Off-Model "am I kawaii uguu face" (which was actually the 2006 version edited to look like the lower-budget 2002 version). At least with the other two in the series (AIR and CLANNAD), people can name one or two plot points or characters, but they don't even know that "uguu" is actually from something.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_27f4c7fb	comment	Coraline was a Sleeper Hit stop-motion animated movie based on a near equally popular best-selling children's novel. Many tend to know about the novel and its movie adaptation very well, and are quite popular and acclaimed within their respective fan circles. However, in a strange inversion of this trope, mentioning that there is also a video game and a stage musical based on the story gets surprised reactions.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_295f2b35	comment	A lot of people are familiar with The Legend of Zelda CD-i Games, given how much they were used for YouTube Poop or just general Bile Fascination-focused content. It's harder finding people who can tell you what the games looked like outside of cutscenes or how they played, and harder still to find someone who can remember any cutscenes besides the opening and ending ones of Wand of Gamelon and Faces of Evil, or Morshu's appearance in the latter. And chances are, the only thing people can tell you about Zelda's Adventure is that it existed. If they're more familiar with the other games, maybe they'll remember it starred Zelda, had a top-down perspective, and used live-action cutscenes instead of animated ones, and nothing else. This makes sense, considering that Nintendo has gone out of their way to bury them, both copies of the games and the system they were released for are very hard to find, and even emulating them is nigh-impossible. Unofficial PC ports of the former two games were eventually produced, but they were taken down quickly by their creator fearing legal action from Nintendo.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2bbcacd9	comment	With the disappearance of nearly all western animation from North American television that's older than the late 1990s or early 2000s, a great many classics, like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry and the Classic Disney Shorts, have fallen into this. The former two still air on channels dedicated to legacy programming like Boomerang, but they still fall into this because: A) Boomerang is on a high cable package that many households wouldn't have (especially since an increasing number of households are ditching cable services altogether), and B) the airing times are inconsistent and usually during hours when children are either asleep or in school. note They used to air on Cartoon Network off and on until 2017 but, after 2004 (before then, they aired in primetime too), they aired almost exclusively when kids are at school with no weekend slots aside from Looney Tunes from 2011-2014 where it aired at 6 AM, a time slot where most children are still asleep. By 2015, they had incredibly inconsistent timeslots with Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry airing any given week only to be gone by the next. Currently, they air on Boomerang (a network that even many cable subscribers don't have, meaning they don't get much exposure despite being Adored by the Network) and MeTV's Toon In With Me block (which only airs on weekdays at 7 AM, when children are either asleep or getting ready for school) This makes it harder for modern children to familiarize themselves by watching them on TV. And with them hidden so deep away on streaming services that you need to actively hunt for them to find them, few kids today will have watched them directly, only seeing them on merchandise, reboots, or as references by newer media. Most people know that Steamboat Willie is Mickey Mouse's first sound cartoon and the film that launched the Disney empire. The opening Signature Scene of Mickey whistling and steering the boat is considered one of the most iconic scenes in the history of animation and has since become the ident for Walt Disney Feature Animation early in the 21st century, but how many are familiar with the rest of the plot? Funnily enough, when the cartoon finally went into the public domain in 2024, many modern viewers watched it for the first time out of curiosity and were surprised by the amount of cartoon animal cruelty involved to the point it became memetic.note Nothing graphic happens, Mickey plays a bunch of animals like instruments (playing a duck like a trumpet, pulling piglet tails and then poking their mother's nipples, pulling on a cat's tail and swinging the cat away, etc.) Then at the end of the short he throws a potato at a parrot laughing at him.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2e3e7ac2	comment	It was particularly notable when the Justice League TV show was launched in 2001 using John Stewart as the Green Lantern. Some were upset about them changing Green Lantern to a black man. People didn't know that the character was nearing 30 years old, having taken up the ring in the '70s. This, due to the popularity of the Justice League show, led to a large number of people confused by the Green Lantern (2011) trailer, wanting to know why Green Lantern wasn't black!
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2e6e838	comment	Yogi Bear: He is a bear who is smarter than the average bear, has a friend named Boo Boo, and steals pick-a-nick baskets. That's about all the general public of today knows about these cartoons, and they know even less (if anything) about his fellow Hanna-Barbera TV stars of The '60s onward such as Huckleberry Hound, Quick Draw McGraw, etc, who are far more obscure to younger audiences than Yogi. Not that there haven't been efforts to combat this; a 2010 film adaptation of Yogi Bear did modestly well, and while Yogi is the star of Jellystone!, that show seems determined to feature as many Hanna-Barbera characters as possible.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2e97466d	comment	The Ys series is one of the oldest, most long-running and most-distinguished series of JRPGs ever made, with Ys: Ancient Ys Vanished ~ Omen being released in 1987 and is still ongoing with countless ports, remakes, and a prequel, Ys Origin. But until the Playstation 2 port of Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim was released in 2005, the games were practically unknown in the West. Only 3 prior games (the Sega Master System port of Ys I, the TurboGrafx-16 port of the first game and Ys II compiled and Ys III on the SNES, Sega Genesis and TurboGrafx) had been released in English at all before Napishtim, none of which had particularly set the sales charts on fire, leaving the series only known to die-hard import and fan-translation fans for 14 years. While it's somewhat better-known now, it's still considered a Cult Classic series, despite a long and storied pedigree that puts it in the same conversation as the likes of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest and particularly The Legend of Zelda, which Ys was once considered a serious rival to in the field of Action RPGs.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2f203125	comment	Meanwhile, Persona's parent series is often only known among Persona fans as... Persona's parent series. For those that do know about Shin Megami Tensei, they generally only know about its Morality System, that most games in the series are set After the End, that the Abrahamic God features as the Final Boss of multiple installments, or just that it's generally Nintendo Hard and quite "edgy." As far as actually playing it is concerned, it's very niche. (Most likely due to the aforementioned reputation of difficulty.) Really, the most people know about mainline SMT is from the widely popular "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series" tagline that was added on some versions of SMT III: Nocturne to promote the crossover. While the meme and Dante himself are hallmarks on the web, a lot of people have forgotten what game Dante was actually being featured in, much less what it was about.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_2f3aa7ef	comment	My Little Pony has been one of the most popular toy lines since the early 1980s; however most adults would be hard-pressed to remember a single pony that doesn't come from My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magicnote with the likely exception of Minty, Wind Whistler, and Fizzy. This is because the series had lots of characters but, up until G4, they never tried to focus on any one character. Take, for example, Firefly. She is likely the most well-known G1-G3 pony but only appeared in one rarely aired My Little Pony TV Special and the obscure British My Little Pony comics. In late My Little Pony (G3) the "Core 7" was created but this only lasted a little over a year before Friendship is Magic came out. This lack of focusing on characterization led to the belief that the series is nothing but interchangeably cutesy ponies.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_30a248e	comment	More people probably know that Jason Voorhees wasn't the killer in Friday the 13th (1980) because of that fact being referenced in the opening act of Scream (1996) than because they remember the plot from the original - assuming they actually saw the original in the first place.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_30b255fb	comment	Superman is arguably the most famous superhero around. Most of the traits people associate Superman with (godlike power, the Fortress of Solitude, the Phantom Zone, Supergirl, Krypto the Superdog, Zod, the Legion of Super-Heroes, multiple varieties of Kryptonite) were created during the Silver and Bronze Ages. The general public ignores that most of them were retconned out when DC rebooted Superman in 1985 and made their way back to the comics very slowly. Later additions to the mythos are mostly unknown by mostly everyone.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_30c1ffd0	comment	With the release of Stardew Valley, you can find a whole lot of people with opinions and "familiarity" with the Harvest Moon franchise solely via the homage-imitation that Stardew Valley is, assuming it's just identical in terms of gameplay.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_35bceb50	comment	Hamlet is one of Shakespeare's best-known plays, and many people will probably be able to quote a couple of scenes, like "To be or not to be" or Alas, Poor Yorick. But most will never have read the play or seen it performed on stage. They just know that everyone dies, and it had something to do with Yorick. This can be extended to all Shakespeare plays, though a few of them (including Hamlet) are often taught at schools in English-speaking countries (frequently accompanied by field trips to see them performed). The most blatant Shakespeare example is actually Romeo and Juliet. It seems to be remembered by pop culture as a tragic tale of true love, and the "Wherefore art thou Romeo" scene, but otherwise you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who knows the plot in any kind of detail.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_36cea77f	comment	Ask anyone in the anime circuit who Hatsune Miku is and they'll be able to recognize her and her design in a heartbeat. They may even know some of the more popular songs from the circuit or some of the other non-Miku Vocaloid characters, especially thanks to the influence of things like the Project DIVA series. Now ask them to name the people who actually made the songs. Chances are, they'll at most know the song by the Vocaloid providing the vocals (e.g. "a Miku song"), and only people within the fanbase or devoted fans of specific musicians will know who were the actual people responsible for composing them. (In fact, there are many cases of more casual listeners who listen to the music and are active fans of the characters but don't bother to look into it.) This extends so far that many people outside the active fanbase (including active DIVA players who don't have exposure outside the game) aren't aware that the vast majority of Vocaloid music isn't commissioned by a company and is mainly just indie music by individual people that happened to get popular on the Internet.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_36ee2abe	comment	Many gamers have heard of "Friend Computer" and "Commie Mutant Traitors," but few of them have actually played Paranoia.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_370f6f37	comment	Zorro presents an interesting case. In the book The History of Mystery by Max Allan Collins, Collins asserts, on page 51, that Johnston McCulley's Zorro rivals Edgar Rice Burroughs' Tarzan for influence. While one can easily find Burroughs novels in mainstream bookstores today, Johnston McCulley's work has fallen out of print. This seems baffling, considering that values dissonance would seem to apply less to Zorro, given that having a Latino (albeit a white Latino) protagonist who seeks retribution for injustice against Native Americans seems progressive. It also seems baffling considering that in the last twenty years, Zorro has had two feature films in theaters, as well as a few TV series, while other properties set in the Old West such as The Lone Ranger and Hopalong Cassidy have remained cinematically inert.note Also note that Zorro's adventures take place even earlier in history than those of Hopalong Cassidy or The Lone Ranger. Also, Zorro costumes still remain quite common for children. Despite all of that, Johnston McCulley's books are now rarely in print.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_37a71462	comment	Les MisÃ©rables is far better known as a musical, and a vast number of people wrongly think that it is set during The French Revolution. It's actually set during the June Uprising of 1832, which ironically would itself be completely forgotten today if not for the actual readers of Les MisÃ©rables.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_380a8c06	comment	Zero Wing entered the mainstream because of its hilariously bad translation of the intro...but very few people know anything about the actual gameplay, or have ever played the game itself.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_39bd4a10	comment	Deathstroke: Deathstroke has gotten to be a pretty popular DC character, having reached a decent level of fame despite not having much live cinematic representation. Just about everyone knows him as being the Arch-Enemy of the Teen Titans. He's achieved infamy for sleeping with Terra. And he's built a notable reputation for himself as the guy who can sometimes effortlessly beat up entire teams of really powerful superheroes and supervillains alike. But beyond that, Slade's Popularity Power hasn't really rubbed off on his solo stories, with a mainstream audience not being too familiar with his adventures when he's not fighting Batman or the Teen Titans or the Justice League. And some of his supporting characters and villains like Red Lion, Possum, the Jackal, Janissary, Odysseus, Dr. Ikon, and Koschei the Deathless haven't been able to reach the same level of popularity or recognition that Deathstroke himself has reached. So depending on what stories he's in, Deathstroke's level of recognition can either rise or wane. In stories involving the Titans, Batman, the Justice League, or other famous heroes, Deathstroke will always be one of the most recognizable and memorable characters you'll see. But when it comes to his own solo adventures as an Anti-Hero, that's when a general audience will struggle to identify what's going on with Slade's day-to-day solo adventures or the original supporting characters and villains created for Deathstroke's comics.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_3adaad9b	comment	The problem is that the Avengers for a long time did not have a regular cast and roster. The first ten issues or so of the comics had repeated defections. The Hulk left the Avengers early and was a member of the team for exactly two issues, and unlike other team members did not rejoin for over 40 years after quitting (the team which Hulk had a longer membership in was The Defenders, which was finally made into an In Name Only Netflix series). Captain America wasn't a founding member of the team, he was thawed out of ice in a later issue, and joined the team after that, and for a long time, the two most common founding members were Ant-Man and The Wasp, who were not only Adapted Out from The Avengers (2012) but when finally adapted were made into Scott Lang and Hope van Dyne, both of whom are Legacy Characters.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_3b4153c8	comment	A lot of concepts that are considered "Biblical" are actually taken from Paradise Lost or The Divine Comedy. For example, nowhere in the Bible does it say that Satan's name is Lucifer. In fact, the few references to Lucifer are far removed from any references to the Devil. There's even a case to be made that there is no one creature called "the Devil" or "the Evil One" (terms that likely are used collectively) and that "Satan" is a term meaning "adversary" rather than a proper name. The Satan of Job's story, for example, is able to attend a conference in Heaven, which would be impossible if most of what we know of him were true.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_3d0e59ba	comment	MotÃ¶rhead is very well-known across the world, even to non-metal listeners, for its frontman Lemmy, who had a well-documented appearance and lifestyle, having themes about sex, drugs, and gambling, their song called "Ace of Spades", being influential to the metal in general, and Lemmy ultimately dying at 70. That being said, considerably fewer people have actually listened to their music or can name any other song of theirs besides "Spades" or their Triple H entrance themes, even if they know about the band. As an example of this, the band is often thought of as being "Lemmy + 2", as if the other two were throwaways. While it was true that he was the only original member, the final lineup was stable for over twenty years.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_3f445492	comment	Arabian Nights. Made even worse by the fact that many old translations were heavily bowdlerised. And well-known tales like "Aladdin" and "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves"? Yeah, they weren't originally part of the work but were added by European translators. So think twice if you think you know Arabian Nights or if it is as popular or beloved among Arabic-speaking peoples as it is in the West (they generally look down on it, preferring poetry first and foremost, thank you very much).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_413aa2f7	comment	Don Quixote by Cervantes. Although a household name, the classic novel of all time, and the source of the iconic windmill scene. It tends to be more talked about than reading, even among literary scholars...unless you went to school in a Hispanic country where the book is taught to you...maybe even several times through your school career. Jorge Luis Borges wrote a short story Pierre Menard, author of Don Quixote, where the narrator reflects that in philosophy, every theory that intends to describe to the world, over the years become Condemned by History. In the literature, says Menard, this decline is even worse, and puts "Don Quixote" as an example: At the time it was published a book full of Funny Moments, but now, (three centuries after its publication) is used to invoke Patriotic Fervor, to stroke the ego of the Grammar Nazi, and to buy deluxe editions as Conspicuous Consumption. Menard concludes that glory attracts Misaimed Fandom and worse, Fan Dumb.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_42f417ec	comment	Spartacus is an epic to out-epic all other epics - starring some of the greatest actors of its time, directed by the legendary Stanley Kubrick, and clocking in at well over three hours. And yet, it lives on in the public consciousness almost exclusively for the famous I Am Spartacus scene having been referenced and/or parodied mutliple times across various pop culture in the decades since its release. The average person under retirement age is likely to recognise "I am Spartacus" and basically nothing else.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_44127c7c	comment	Everybody in the world knows who the Power Rangers are, but the only incarnation everyone can identify is Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, to the point that if you mention "Power Rangers" to somebody it will probably be the first thing that comes to mind. But with that being said, it's extremely difficult to find non-fans who can name any of the other seasons. And while most people will recognize the color-coded ranger characters, far fewer will be able to know the human identities behind them.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_46f0352c	comment	The Shadow knows...but virtually no one knows The Shadow. These days, it's a rare bird indeed who has experienced the original Walter Gibson novels, or any of the character's numerous radio, comic book, and film adaptations (even the Alec Baldwin joint was ill-attended).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_4709777b	comment	The cover of Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols is the iconic image of punk but any tracks other than "Anarchy in the UK", "God Save the Queen" and "Pretty Vacant" are fairly obscure. "Holidays In The Sun" was a single at the time but has not managed to get the airplay the others did, even after their renewed popularity. Outside Punk Rock circles, most people who know next to nothing about the genre have all heard of the Sex Pistols and will likely namedrop them if they have to talk about punk music. Yet in many cases, it will be wrong assumptions. For instance: nobody within the Sex Pistols ever wore a punk mohawk or had a safety pin through his nose, yet many people assume they did, because, hey they are punkers right? Johnny Rotten once said, "I don't know why everybody thought we wore leather jackets, we couldn't afford 'em."
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_49b587be	comment	The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer, though it's pretty common reading in colleges, although even there, a few of the Tales tend to be skipped since for logical reasons, it is incomplete and only a few of the tales are even really good (and some of them are anti-semitic).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_4bcdb0e6	comment	Krazy Kat is a cat who gets zipped with a brick by a mouse. Most comic book fans know this, but how many people have actually read these comics of an acquired taste?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_503d3d54	comment	The Rocky Horror Picture Show. American pop culture status has made it so that mainstream audiences are somewhat familiar with the basics of the film. And everyone knows it's the uncrowned queen of Cult Classic films. That, and, playing the Time Warp every Halloween helps. However, again, ask someone who isn't a fan of what the plot of the movie is. Most likely, the answer you'll get is, "Tim Curry in drag." The Audience Participation within the film also counts. Sure, people in general know you're supposed to use props and yell certain lines when watching the movie. But ask anyone who isn't a die-hard fan what you're supposed to say and when!
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5082a6a	comment	The Three Musketeers, despite Adaptation Overdosed - or maybe because of it - is barely known in the original format. Come on, ask a random person who the three musketeers even are - and you will be lucky if they will know Athos and Porthosnote Aramis is the third one, or, predictably, list D'Artagnan as one of them. Short from "One for all, all for one" and maybe that Cardinal Richelieu is in it (just as predictably mislabeled as the Big Bad), you will be hard-pressed to get even the basic premise of the plot from people.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_50a9ace1	comment	Popeye: People know that Popeye is strong, eats spinach, has a girlfriend named Olive Oyl, and an archenemy named Bluto. They may also know that he has a friend named Wimpy who loves hamburgers and an adopted son named Swee'pea. They may not know that he originated in a comic strip, nor that he starred in over 200 short cartoons from the 1930s to the 1950s, much less be able to name any of them or tell you what happens in them outside of "he gets into fights, gets his butt kicked, eats spinach, gets a Heroic Second Wind and wins".
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_529ee66	comment	Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and The Super Mario Bros. Super Show! (and by extension, The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World (1991)) are in a spate of being exclusively known for being YouTube Poop fodder.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_543bfacd	comment	Dracula: Obvious, a seminal classic of horror, launching an enduring sub-genre, spawning hundreds of adaptations and imitators, and subject to a century's worth of concentrated Adaptation Displacement and Flanderization. Everyone knows Dracula and yet few read it or appreciate its Unbuilt Trope, namely that it suffers from Protagonist Title Fallacy. The true hero is Mina Harker, not the vampire.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_553051f	comment	Green Lantern: He's known as a member of the Justice League and as "Space Police", but most people wouldn't know anything about his character and origins, including the fact that Green Lantern is not a superhero name, but a job title, that there are multiple Green Lanterns of multiple species and multiple planets, and that there are now lantern-themed characters for every color in the rainbow. It was particularly notable when the Justice League TV show was launched in 2001 using John Stewart as the Green Lantern. Some were upset about them changing Green Lantern to a black man. People didn't know that the character was nearing 30 years old, having taken up the ring in the '70s. This, due to the popularity of the Justice League show, led to a large number of people confused by the Green Lantern (2011) trailer, wanting to know why Green Lantern wasn't black! Likewise, Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern with the longest appearances in comics, is the "second Green Lantern". The first is Alan Scott, and the original Green Lantern had magic-based powers. Hal Jordan also disappeared from comics for nearly a decade with his replacement Kyle Rayner actually becoming "the" Green Lantern for many new readers. The failure of the Green Lantern (2011) film means that Hal Jordan remains overshadowed in the popular imagination.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5586ce95	comment	Wario is well known by the general public thanks to being a playable character in games such as Mario Party or Mario Kart, which are selling even better than mainline Mario games. Despite this, Wario's actual games, the Wario Land and WarioWare series are relatively niche.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_56f42de7	comment	Casper the Friendly Ghost is a friendly ghost who doesn't want to scare others... and that's about it. Ditto Richie Rich who is known... for being rich.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_59c27061	comment	Pretty much every Batman fan knows about A Death in the Family, the story that killed off the Jason Todd Robin; it's a consistent placer in "iconic Batman stories" lists, and the infamous vote-in campaign DC used to decide the outcome made mainstream news at the time and is still remembered. However, the specifics of what actually happened in the story besides "Joker beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar" are considerably more bleary, starting with the fact that the above summary is, in fact, wrong: Joker smacked Jason a few times with a crowbar, but he also pistol-whipped him a few times, and Jason survived both and managed to cling to life until a bomb finished him off. It doesn't help that much of the story's third act is rather dated and more than a bit absurd (Joker evades consequences for killing Jason by somehow becoming the Iranian ambassador), and is usually skated over or rewritten in modern tellings. This has led to a lot of later callbacks to the story adding in ideas that were nowhere in the original, such as Jason always being a bad apple and dying for it, or Batman wilfully choosing not to kill the Joker as opposed to being prevented from doing so.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5bb3aaab	comment	This trope even works in Japan: Ghost in the Shell (1995) was met with critical acclaim in Europe and the USA, yet in Japan not so much. So it's no surprise that when Japanese actually talk about it, praising it about its greatness so they can associate with westerners, they might admit to having never actually seen the movie.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5bfedfba	comment	Grave of the Fireflies is a famously brutal depiction of the horrors of war, conveniently explaining why no one ever gets around to watching it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5cd1aa89	comment	Few novels are namedropped in political discussions as often as Nineteen Eighty-Four. According to one survey, it's also the novel most Brits lie about having read.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5dcdb826	comment	Unsurprisingly, Texhnolyze is so dark and depressing that only a handful of people ever bring themselves to watch it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5e2cf42	comment	The most popular bands in metal (System of a Down, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Slipknot, Metallica (possibly the biggest metal band), etc.) are generally able to be named by the average person. However, it's rare to find a non-metal or non-rock fan who's actually listened to them.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5ec72b29	comment	There is an in-universe example in the Hyperion series. Martin Silenus wrote a poetry book that became extremely popular and sold three billion copies. Yet another serious poetry work of his — according to him and the publisher, a much better one — only sold twenty-four thousand (in a society with a population over a hundred billion). His publisher explains that there are fewer people reading books at all than the number of books sold — but it simply became a fashion to have it at home. Lampshading the trope, she even calls it the "Pilgrim's Progress Effect."
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_5fc1f6df	comment	Spawn is probably the most famous modern superhero to not be from either of the Big Two, with a veritable heap of merchandise, two notable adaptations]], appearances in Soul Calibur II and Mortal Kombat 11, and a design that is incredibly iconic and very often mimicked or parodied. Whenever 1990s superheroes are discussed, Spawn is almost always one of the first names. Yet when you ask people anything about him (his real name, his origin, his powers, his villains, his big storylines), you tend to get a blank stare. At most, people might know Angela (because Marvel currently owns her) and Violator (who was in the movie), or be loosely aware that the stories deal with Hell, but that's about it. Many people are even surprised to hear that the series is still going, and it tends to only get attention for the occasional Milestone Celebration. For instance, it surged to the top of the sales charts for its 300th issue... and the month before that, it had been in 327th place with 2,547 copies sold, which put it below obscure indie books that don't even have a page on this wiki, My Little Pony spinoffs, and the prior month's issue of Batman: Last Knight on Earth.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_60f02ddb	comment	American Dad! has been running for two decades, gets consistently high ratings on television, and is one of the more recognizable adult animated series out there. But while most people have heard of American Dad!, very few are dedicated fans of it and if asked, most non-fans couldn't tell you anything about the characters (apart from maybe Roger the alien) or what the episodes are about. It's mainly just known for being Seth MacFarlane's other long-running adult animated show that's not Family Guy.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_610a694a	comment	PokÃ©mon Adventures is "the" PokÃ©mon manga to people, thanks to it being the longest-running one to have official translations in various countries. People know it's Darker and Edgier than the anime and the games and the scene where a Charmeleon slices an Arbok in half is always brought up as an example of its edgier nature, but much else evade even many hardcore PokÃ©mon fans. It doesn't get discussed much even on PokÃ©mon forums.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_6633a097	comment	Woody Woodpecker: Everyone recognizes the character and can mimic his Signature Laugh, but actually being able to name any of the side characters or stories is less easy. Many kids today seem to know him more from his association with the Universal Studios theme parks than from having watched his short films (though he is not subject to this in Brazil, where he is that country's equivalent to SpongeBob SquarePants). It doesn't really help that unlike many other characters from The Golden Age of Animation, only one of his cartoons is in the Public Domain.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_66d89ff8	comment	Everyone knows the famous Falcon Punch scene from F-Zero: GP Legend, but how many have actually watched the series? 4Kids acquiring, butchering, and dropping the series didn't help matters either.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_687cf984	comment	Most people can recognize the first few notes of "FÃ¼r Elise" and his Ode to Joy from the Ninth Symphony, plus the first few notes of the Fifth Symphony, but have never heard the rest of the music that follows. Everyone knows Beethoven's grumpy face and knows he was deaf.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_69a51847	comment	Similar to Spawn, you have Marvel's own supernatural hero, the Ghost Rider. He has an extremely cool design and powers, is one of the best-remembered antiheroes, and had two films. However, almost nobody is familiar with his supporting cast, with the fact that there have been at least four other Ghost Riders other than Johnny Blaze (one of them female even), and it doesn't help that he lacks iconic-enough storylines and the backstories of the Ghost Riders themselves are inundated with multiple retcons and convoluted plots. People will be able to tell you that he's a skeleton on fire that can burn villains' souls with his stare... and that's the extent of it. This extends to his villains; people are familiar with Mephisto and Blackheart, and then hardly anyone else. And the first is a villain shared with the Marvel Universe as a whole, to the point most people are familiar with Mephisto through his involvement in the infamous One More Day with Spider-Man, rather than any actual storyline with Ghost Rider, while the second is probably better-known for popping up in Marvel vs. Capcom (solely because Capcom liked his look) than any Ghost Rider storyline. One of the more telling cases of it is that even fairly experienced comic writers tend to get his powers wrong; in particular, the Penance Stare has a habit of being completely resisted by characters who really shouldn't be able to do so. Another telling fact is that a lot of his most known characteristics (the Penance Stare, the chain, the leather jacket) came from the Ghost Rider after Blaze, Dan Ketch.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_6ac55ec7	comment	For the public at large, Dungeons & Dragons and Magic: The Gathering. Everyone's heard of them, but non-gamers are unlikely to know anything about how the games are played and probably couldn't identify which one is which—even though the only thing the two have in common is that they're both fantasy-centric.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_6ae4671a	comment	The Blue Lagoon, a timeless literary gem by Henry De Vere Stacpoole, despite inspiring three screen adaptations and a stage rendition before them, remains unfairly obscure beyond devoted literary circles. The enchanting tale of survival, innocence, and love unfolds on a remote Pacific island where young protagonists Dick and Emmeline forge an unbreakable bond. While the screen adaptations and stage rendition attempted to immortalize the story, they struggled to achieve widespread recognition. Nevertheless, the novel's profound impact on readers endures, making it an enduring testament to the power of storytelling and the human spirit, awaiting discovery and appreciation by future generations beyond the confines of literary circles.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_6e657b27	comment	Chris Benoit is a household name to wrestling fans yet the only thing mainstream audiences know about him is his Pater Familicide. It doesn't help younger fans that WWE has done all they can to erase him from history.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_6f70ad52	comment	Directly related with earlier Fallout case would be Wasteland. People will know that it's a Genre Popularizer and the first cRPG to be set in post-apo and maybe even that due to copyright issues, Black Isle made Fallout instead of simply Wasteland 2. Some more avid fans of Fallouts might also be familiar with the references made to Wasteland in the first game. But playing it, hell, even managing to boot it (at least before a version for modern OS was released)? Forget it. General public? Never even heard about the game in the first place.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_73456d8a	comment	Carnival Phantasm ironically causes this towards Tsukihime. At the time of release in 2011, Carnival Phantasm was a web original anime that was created as a celebration of the two popular Type-Moon Visual Novels set in the Nasuverse: Tsukihime and Fate/stay night. Both series received equal billing at the time of release. Since then, however, Fate has grown into a Cash-Cow Franchise, much to the consternation of fans of the other works in the Nasuverse. While Fate received new wildly popular anime adaptations that pushed the franchise's popularity to new heights, Tsukihime was left in the dust with both its reboot Visual Novel and Melty Blood sequel undergoing massive delays (both of which have been released in 2021, over a decade after the reboot was announced). These days it's not uncommon for people's knowledge of Tsukihime to be limited to this specific series, and a popular meme was reacting to Tsukihime remake news by jokingly claiming that Neko-Arc (a gag character based on the main heroine) is "getting her own VN."
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_73b4d4c1	comment	Call of Cthulhu is essentially the tabletop cultural shorthand for Total Party Kill, so the relative dearth of people that have actually played it is possibly more a matter of intentionally avoiding it than anything else.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_74677280	comment	The Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games and New Super Mario Bros. series sell better than "core" Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog games, but you wouldn't know it from how gamers discuss them. The Olympic spinoff only gets discussed in passing or for laughs, while most discussions on the NSMB series come down to complaints that it's too stagnant or that it's inferior to the 3D Mario games like Super Mario Galaxy or Super Mario Odyssey.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_753491f7	comment	Fantasia: Adjusted for inflation, it's the fourth highest-grossing animated film ever (despite that its original 1940 release was a notorious flop), widely praised as a masterpiece of cinema and art, but due to it being an Anthology Film with little dialogue but Classical Music, not many people today can actually name a segment from it aside from "the Mickey Mouse part", "the one with the mushrooms", "the dancing hippos" and maybe "that scene with the devil guy" or "the centaurs". As a result, its unique nature makes it less accessible than its other Disney contemporaries, and while it still has many fans, they're usually major art and/or classical music enthusiasts rather than conventional viewers.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_75e10a72	comment	As of the late 2010s, Yume KÅ�jÅ�: Doki Doki Panic has become this. It is no longer obscure information that Super Mario Bros. 2 is a Dolled-Up Installment of Panic, to the point that those who still think otherwise have become a source of mockery; but good luck finding someone who has actually played the original gamenote 1The emulation community is a good place to start, what with being Famicom Disk System-exclusivenote 2An add-on to the Famicom—itself the Japanese version of the NES—that was never released outside Japan and all.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_77a7d297	comment	There are also many (primarily non-British) people who have never seen the TV show or the films and are (passingly) aware of the Python phenomenon as merely a crude pastiche of countercultural Deranged Animation and quirky humor that only nerds could possibly understand. Many assume it's all completely incomprehensible and don't bother to even watch it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_78db2b3b	comment	Gulliver's Travels: Everybody knows the scenes where Gulliver visits Lilliput, which is often reproduced as children's literature or adapted as a cartoon for all ages. The remaining three sections are obscure, mostly because they can't be watered down for kids and are more obvious as a satire that appeals to older readers.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_78fc0025	comment	Everyone knows Twin Peaks was weird and focused on the question of who killed someone named Laura Palmer, but not much beyond that is remembered. This may be for the best, since it prevents the killer's identity from becoming common knowledge, allowing new viewers to properly experience the mystery for themselves. And it actually got terrific ratings in its day, and its third season "The Return" is seen as a fitting Grand Finale.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7aaf9e41	comment	Batman: Unless they've been in a coma for a decade or two, they'll know who Batman is. But you'd be hard-pressed to find someone outside the hardcore fandom who knows that he now has a pre-teen son with the daughter of one of his enemies. Likewise, said enemy and daughter of said enemy, Ra's and Talia Al-Ghul are both relatively new characters and are still not widely used in mainstream adaptations. They were created in the early 1970s but were not adapted until Batman: The Animated Series in the early '90s. It took over another decade for them to show up in The Dark Knight Trilogy and they're radically different than their comic counterparts. They remain popular characters in adaptations aimed at existing comics fans but arguably the only comics-accurate versions of the characters in a mainstream adaptation is in the Arkham video game franchise. For example: Ask anyone on the street who Robin is, and if they know at all, it'll be Dick Grayson, who's been Nightwing since 1984. They'll likely be completely unaware that there's been up to five Robins, depending on which comics you're talking about. They may also be unaware of the different identities each Robin has, and mention names like Red Hood, Red Robin, and Spoiler to non-fans and they'll be stumped. Ask anyone on the street who Batgirl is and they'll name Barbara Gordon if they're able to answer the question at all. She's made appearances in live-action shows, movies, and cartoons. No one will know Barbara wasn't Batgirl for twenty-three years, and they'll be completely unaware of her successors Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown, who have identities of their own (the former becoming Black Bat and then Orphan, the latter best known as the Spoiler). This is actually enforced by DC, who rebooted Barbara as Batgirl in order to make sure she's the "default" Batgirl in people's heads. Pretty much every Batman fan knows about A Death in the Family, the story that killed off the Jason Todd Robin; it's a consistent placer in "iconic Batman stories" lists, and the infamous vote-in campaign DC used to decide the outcome made mainstream news at the time and is still remembered. However, the specifics of what actually happened in the story besides "Joker beat Jason Todd to death with a crowbar" are considerably more bleary, starting with the fact that the above summary is, in fact, wrong: Joker smacked Jason a few times with a crowbar, but he also pistol-whipped him a few times, and Jason survived both and managed to cling to life until a bomb finished him off. It doesn't help that much of the story's third act is rather dated and more than a bit absurd (Joker evades consequences for killing Jason by somehow becoming the Iranian ambassador), and is usually skated over or rewritten in modern tellings. This has led to a lot of later callbacks to the story adding in ideas that were nowhere in the original, such as Jason always being a bad apple and dying for it, or Batman wilfully choosing not to kill the Joker as opposed to being prevented from doing so.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7b6c4921	comment	Degrassi: The Next Generation. Most people will be aware of it because it was Drake's show before he became a famous rapper. Not a lot of people outside the core demographic will be able to tell you about the show.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7d122312	comment	The Flintstones: Everyone can recognize this Stone Age family, and most people can also recognize the Rubbles (sometimes also the Great Gazoo). Most people also know Fred's catchphrase, "Yabba Dabba Doo!" But with the show being off the air for years, how many younger people have watched a single episode of the show, or can name any of the secondary characters? Nowadays, they're mostly known for their breakfast cereals (Fruity Pebbles and Cocoa Pebbles), children's vitamins, or for the fact that shows like The Simpsons wouldn't exist without it. To a lesser extent, there's also their infamous cigarette commercial from the 50s pushing Winston cigarettes. The Jetsons fall into this similarly. Everyone can recognize the family of the future, and most people can also recognize their household robot Rosie (sometimes also George's boss, Mr. Spacely). But how many have actually watched a single episode of the show, or can name any of the secondary characters?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7ea4fd20	comment	The relative obscurity of the first two Fallouts goes so far, Brian Fargo had to address it directly in marketing campaign for Wasteland 2 - not only Wasteland isn't derivative of Fallout, but Interplay made Fallout 1 and 2. While the commercial was humorous, it's based on an actual conversation Fargo had when trying to find a publisher for Wasteland 2:
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7f5bc680	comment	The first two games in the Fallout series qualify. The fan base now primarily consists of people who only know this series from the third game onward. Even before the third game came out, a lot of people knew the series primarily from setting details like its Raygun Gothic aesthetics, bottlecap currency, Nuka-Cola, and mutants. (Funnily, Nuka-Cola isn't given any noteworthy spotlight in either of the first two games; it's pretty easy to go a whole playthrough without seeing anyone mention it.). Fallout Tactics goes as far as it had been de-canonised by Bethesda, solely due to its obscurity to the general public - and if people heard about it at all, they will only be aware it's "that one where you are a member of the Brotherhood of Steel", but no idea how different it is in play or what's the plot even about. Directly related with earlier Fallout case would be Wasteland. People will know that it's a Genre Popularizer and the first cRPG to be set in post-apo and maybe even that due to copyright issues, Black Isle made Fallout instead of simply Wasteland 2. Some more avid fans of Fallouts might also be familiar with the references made to Wasteland in the first game. But playing it, hell, even managing to boot it (at least before a version for modern OS was released)? Forget it. General public? Never even heard about the game in the first place. The relative obscurity of the first two Fallouts goes so far, Brian Fargo had to address it directly in marketing campaign for Wasteland 2 - not only Wasteland isn't derivative of Fallout, but Interplay made Fallout 1 and 2. While the commercial was humorous, it's based on an actual conversation Fargo had when trying to find a publisher for Wasteland 2:
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7f77ffd2	comment	Sax Rohmer and Doctor Fu Manchu, in that cultural sensitivity has hindered keeping the books in print, though Zebra, Dover, and Titan have made efforts, references to a "Fu Manchu" mustache still occur. Asian-American civic groups have kept the 1960s Doctor Fu Manchu films off broadcast television, and for the most part, nobody's missing much.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7fc78282	comment	Many more people have watched the movies based on The Lord of the Rings and now The Hobbit than have ever read the original Cult Classic books. Even within the overall fandom, there are many things that seem to be widely known less by actually reading the books and more by hearing things from wikis and Youtube videos, which leads to a lot of Common Knowledge or bigging up of characters and elements with minimal actual presence.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_7fd1ab56	comment	King Kong (1933) remains one of the most iconic and famous films ever made, but few people today have actually seen it, especially since the many remakes that followed have kind of worn off the novelty. However put certain images and Signature Scene together — A giant chimp in Manhattan who climbs a tall building, beats his chest in defiance and fights off planes while holding a blonde girl in his fest, and dies by dropping off the tallest building in the world, which at the time it was the Empire State Building. Empire State no longer holds that honor but it remains an iconic building thanks to Kong and is still remembered for being "the tallest" at one point.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_802ca7b	comment	GoldenEye (1997) is considered a landmark first-person shooter released on the Nintendo 64 console and often shows up on the best-of lists. Yet most people who play FPS games are more familiar with other landmarks like Doom or Half-Life than that game. Not helping is that while Doom and Half-Life are still very accessible via digital distribution platforms, the only legal way to play the original GoldenEye 007 until January 2023note where it was ported to Nintendo Switch and Xbox Series X\|S was to buy an N64 and a copy of the game second-hand. (A remaster of the game was planned at one point, but was Screwed by the Lawyers.)
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_80dfc3db	comment	Likewise, Hal Jordan, the Green Lantern with the longest appearances in comics, is the "second Green Lantern". The first is Alan Scott, and the original Green Lantern had magic-based powers. Hal Jordan also disappeared from comics for nearly a decade with his replacement Kyle Rayner actually becoming "the" Green Lantern for many new readers. The failure of the Green Lantern (2011) film means that Hal Jordan remains overshadowed in the popular imagination.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_817ec44f	comment	People who know about Captain N: The Game Master typically know it's about an Earth kid getting sucked into a world where all his favorite NES games are real, and that it's full of wacky inaccuracies and creative liberties in characterization and designs (green Mega Man, the hero of Kid Icarus (1986) being named "Kid Icarus" instead of Pit, "Metroid" being the name of a planet instead of a species, and everything about the show's take on Simon Belmont), and... that's it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_81884415	comment	The Wu-Tang Clan is a unique kind of band where the general public is more likely to be familiar with their logo and for being influential to Hip-Hop than they are with any of their songs. Many people don't realize that RZA (better known today as a director) and Method Man (better known as an actor) are members.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8258e260	comment	Super Mario Bros. The Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games and New Super Mario Bros. series sell better than "core" Super Mario and Sonic the Hedgehog games, but you wouldn't know it from how gamers discuss them. The Olympic spinoff only gets discussed in passing or for laughs, while most discussions on the NSMB series come down to complaints that it's too stagnant or that it's inferior to the 3D Mario games like Super Mario Galaxy or Super Mario Odyssey. Wario is well known by the general public thanks to being a playable character in games such as Mario Party or Mario Kart, which are selling even better than mainline Mario games. Despite this, Wario's actual games, the Wario Land and WarioWare series are relatively niche.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8577f936	comment	Wuthering Heights is generally known just as the tragic love story between the brooding Heathcliff and the doomed Cathy, set amid the wild and windy Yorkshire moors. Pop culture rarely remembers that Heathcliff is largely a Villain Protagonist, more a brutal deconstruction of the Byronic Hero than a straight example. Or that Cathy is no gentle girl to his brooding boy, but just as wild, fierce, and cruel as he is. Or that they never roam the moors together as young adult lovers, but only while growing up together as children. Or, least of all, Cathy dies less than halfway through the book and the second half revolves around a second generation of young people, whom an older Heathcliff abuses.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8585bb69	comment	The Rules of the Internet. Everyone knows about Rule 34 and most people know about Rule 63, but very few people know the other 75 rules, with the possible exception of Rules 1 and 2 depending on age.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_858da35d	comment	Panzer Dragoon at least was this. It was visible on many top 100 games lists and is considered to be the best game on the Sega Saturn, but many have not played it. It helps that only 10,000 copies were printed in the US, making it a hard find even then (although to be fair it fared better in Europe and Japan).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8c1324fe	comment	Little Orphan Annie is a well-known early 20th-century comic strip with an iconic art style. Despite this everything anyone knows about it comes from the first film of the musical adaptation.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8cb0da79	comment	Aaron Copland is one of America's most celebrated composers, yet only "Simple Gifts" (from Appalachian Spring), "Hoedown" (from Rodeo and his "Fanfare For The Common Man" may ring a bell when played on a CD.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8d814070	comment	Look through the series that dominated the Emmys during their day. Some are still well-remembered like MAS*H, All in the Family, Friends, etc., but for the most part, your average Emmy-nominated series from the 60s, 70s, 80s and even 90s are hardly even remembered to exist, never mind any specifics about them.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8d875d5a	comment	The PBS show ZOOM is pretty well known, but neither incarnation received any official release. The original version hasnâ€™t been broadcast since the early 80s and only recently have any full episodes appeared online. The revival hasnâ€™t been broadcast on PBS in almost a decade and a half; most episodes didnâ€™t appear online in their entirety until about 8 years after it went off the air. On top of that, most episodes only aired around 10 times (due to PBS phasing out older seasons for whatever reason), making the episodes that are still missing very hard to find.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8df5521b	comment	Superman: Superman is arguably the most famous superhero around. Most of the traits people associate Superman with (godlike power, the Fortress of Solitude, the Phantom Zone, Supergirl, Krypto the Superdog, Zod, the Legion of Super-Heroes, multiple varieties of Kryptonite) were created during the Silver and Bronze Ages. The general public ignores that most of them were retconned out when DC rebooted Superman in 1985 and made their way back to the comics very slowly. Later additions to the mythos are mostly unknown by mostly everyone. They'll know that Lois Lane is Clark Kent's friend and Superman's girlfriend who has no idea they're one and the same, unaware that they've been married for a long time in comics media, that she's fully aware of his secret identity, and that in DC Rebirth, they came back to the married (and with a child) status. In the introduction to The Death and Return of Superman omnibus, Mike Carlin noted the easiest way to shut down reporters complaining that they were "stealing" Superman from the people was to respond "Well... when's the last time you bought a Superman comic?" Most people are aware of the existence of Supergirl, and most of them know her name's Kara and she's Superman's cousin. Even before being given her own show in 2015, she had shown up in a live-action film as well as several animated features, shows, cartoons and video games. But ask them about her Rogues Gallery, supporting cast, and relevant storylines, and they'll be hard-pressed to name one. They'll be unaware too that the character remained dead for eighteen years, during which DC tried and failed to replace her with several non-Kryptonian Supergirls. Despite Superman being the superhero's superhero and at the worst of times, the third most popular superhero in the world behind Spider-Man and Batman, many of Superman's villains, with the obvious exception of Lex Luthor (and secondarily, Zod, Doomsday, and Darkseid), have seriously lagged behind in being recognizable and relatable to a general audience. You could probably have an in-depth conversation with any member of the general public about Batman's Arkham rogues and Spider-Man's villains but for Superman villains like Atomic Skull, Toyman, Parasite, Titano, Metallo, and Mr. Mxyzptlk? Some of these villains might be at the tips of some people's tongues due to past cartoons and TV shows but the severe lack of live cinematic representation for them has left them in an awkward spot where everybody knows who Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man are but you couldn't get most people to go in-depth on a conversation about Parasite, Toyman, or Atomic Skull the same way you could get people to have a lengthy conversation about the Joker, Green Goblin, Bane, Dr. Octopus, Riddler, Scarecrow, or the Sinister Six. And most people would probably be very hardpressed to understand why Superman's non-Lex or non-Doomsday villains are so important to his mythos, much less name memorable storylines they've been in.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8e7e0721	comment	Madness is a very good example of this. Ask anyone in the US if they've heard of Madness, and they'll say no. Ask them if they remember "Our House" and they'll always say yes. It doesn't help that that song was in heavy rotation on MTV back in the day, and the only song of theirs that got popular over here. ("It Must Be Love" charted too but that seems to be Vindicated by History.)
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8ee238c9	comment	While the Persona series was never really mainstream outside of gaming circles to begin with, the inclusion of Joker from Persona 5 in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate somewhat places the franchise in this territory; due to the Smash Bros. series being a household name to the point that even non-gamers have at least heard of it, many people have pointed out that millions of people who have never heard of the Persona games will now know Joker solely because of his inclusion in the game. Amongst gaming and RPG fans, however, the later 3 Persona games are well known and held as amongst the best JRPG games one can play, while the first two games are known for simply starting the franchise and mostly played by those just wanting a classic take on Persona. Meanwhile, Persona's parent series is often only known among Persona fans as... Persona's parent series. For those that do know about Shin Megami Tensei, they generally only know about its Morality System, that most games in the series are set After the End, that the Abrahamic God features as the Final Boss of multiple installments, or just that it's generally Nintendo Hard and quite "edgy." As far as actually playing it is concerned, it's very niche. (Most likely due to the aforementioned reputation of difficulty.) Really, the most people know about mainline SMT is from the widely popular "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series" tagline that was added on some versions of SMT III: Nocturne to promote the crossover. While the meme and Dante himself are hallmarks on the web, a lot of people have forgotten what game Dante was actually being featured in, much less what it was about.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_8f6d81a3	comment	The Pink Panther: Once a very famous cartoon character thanks to the film franchise around Inspector Clouseau, but since no new movies in this vein are made and the old Pink Panther cartoons aren't shown on TV anymore (neither is his short-lived 1993 reboot nor the 2010 reboot), he is probably better known as some vague advertising character or for his Character Signature Song.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_93985d2b	comment	Plan 9 from Outer Space is the most famous cinematic example of So Bad, It's Good. Yet more people are familiar with it thanks to Tim Burton's Ed Wood than those who've actually seen it. Outside the USA, most people who saw Ed Wood are probably not even aware Ed Wood was a real person and his films were really that badly made!
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_95f7f987	comment	Nightwing: Nightwing's alter ego Dick Grayson is an extremely famous and popular character, best known for being the original Robin and although Robin is what Dick is best known for, his Nightwing persona's still plenty popular enough and is a major Trope Codifier for Side Kick Graduations Stick. Beyond that, most of the general public, despite having familiarity with Dick as Robin, don't really have too much knowledge of Dick's solo adventures as Nightwing and likely couldn't name a single one of his supporting characters aside from the occasional appearance by Bruce, Barbara or any given Robin showing up in his stories. And Nightwing's homegrown Rogues Gallery simply hasn't been able to get to that same level of recognition as Batman's Arkham rogues either, with guys like Blockbuster, Brutale, Shrike, Raptor, or Lady Vic being largely unfamiliar to a mainstream public (hell, even among comic book fans, only Blockbuster would be regarded as anything more than C-List Fodder). It also doesn't help that in the rare cases a major Nightwing villain has some sort of media appearance, they're typically portrayed as fighting other heroes instead of Nightwing.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_98f107f3	comment	Bokurano is well known as "Evangelion but even more depressing", along with being very philosophical, but few people have actually seen or read it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_99215569	comment	Shaman is Santana's most successful album of the new millennium, but aside from "The Game of Love" and "Why Don't You & I" (and don't expect people to remember the Chad Kroeger version), good luck finding anybody's who's actually taken the time to listen to the album. Heck, the same problem exists with Supernatural; aside from the #1 mega-hit "Smooth" nobody can name any other songs on the album (including its other #1 "Maria Maria")
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9959e0f9	comment	Slayer: "The most talked-about band that no one actually listens to." Reign in Blood is hailed as their best, but how many people outside the metalhead community have ever tried to listen or analyze it? Similarly, Anal Cunt are a band well known for their (jokingly) obscene titles and noisy screaming (ironically more well-known than many legitimate grindcore artists), but very few people have bought one of their albums.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9af804ae	comment	20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. Most people know it's about a guy named Captain Nemo who goes around in a submarine and meets/fights a giant octopus. Few could tell you who the narrator and his two friends are, or that Nemo himself is a Sikh.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9b3518ef	comment	Johann Sebastian Bach is widely seen as a high point of classical music, but the most recognized work by him is the opening tunes of Toccata and Fugue in D minor. Among aficionados, the authorship is still up for debate to be attributed to him on that piece. Bach also wrote the chorale setting usually known in English as "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring," though most people don't even recognize the fact that it comes from a longer sacred cantata.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9b530c26	comment	Archie Comics is an American icon and the characters are well-known in pop culture (especially the Betty and Veronica dynamic). But how many people have read over five issues, excluding popular spinoffs like Afterlife with Archie or Archie vs. Predator? The fact Reggie is often forgotten by people despite being one of the main five characters really shows people that genuinely read Archie. This often leads to Adaptation Displacement, resulting in people thinking the 1990s Sabrina the Teenage Witch was an original sitcom and not an Archie-verse adaptation.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9bb5e9f9	comment	Cannibal Corpse. There are few people out there who haven't heard their name before, but the average music fan's knowledge of them is ignorance at its finest. It's not uncommon to hear fans of mainstream metal call them out as noisy trash, meaning that despite being the most famous name in death metal by far, only those who actually like death metal know anything about their actual music rather than just their controversial cover art. Their current singer George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher is one of the most famous people in death metal music, if partially due to his huge neck. What most non-fans don't know is that he was not their original singer or songwriter; Chris Barnes was. In fact, Barnes was responsible for the band's most famous and controversial material, so it's entirely possible that the average person associates Corpsegrinder with songs that weren't even his!
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9db1766a	comment	Really, the most people know about mainline SMT is from the widely popular "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series" tagline that was added on some versions of SMT III: Nocturne to promote the crossover. While the meme and Dante himself are hallmarks on the web, a lot of people have forgotten what game Dante was actually being featured in, much less what it was about.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_9ff4a8d9	comment	The Godzilla films are a particularly good example of this. Due to pop culture status (as well as being one of the biggest movie franchises of all time), it's safe to assume that the majority of people actually know who Godzilla is. That being said, however, try asking someone who isn't a die-hard fan to name at least one Godzilla film and see what happens. Even fans of the genre might not realize that the original Gojira was a dark somber allegory rather than a cheesy "monster on the loose" film, since its original American release as Godzilla (with Raymond Burr) was recut to be exactly that. A subtitled release of the film the Japanese saw back in the 1950s was not available to Americans until this century. It doesn't help that, due to Western media's overbearing popularity, not to mention accessibility, over Japanese productions, a lot of people are only familiar with the 1998 American remake (which, while mostly hated in its native country, was actually quite successful in international markets) and have little to no idea that the franchise, in reality, originated from Japan and has had a firm fanbase way before that movie. This was mitigated a bit with the release of the 2014 American film — at least in that more people know about its roots, not that they would actually want to watch any of the "shoddy Asian rubber monster movies". Even the 2014 film still receives the effect of this. For instance, plenty of people tend to complain about Godzilla's short appearances, which is actually as much as how he appeared in earlier films.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_a168eb30	comment	Haibane Renmei was a well-known anime during the 2000s and was frequently cited on "must watch" lists. However, few people that praise it actually got around to watching it. Official streaming and home rereleases have helped this a bit though.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_a5549ed0	comment	A lot of quotes are attributed to The Bible that are actually by others. Many people think certain sayings, such as "The Lord helps those who help themselves," "Love the sinner, hate the sin," or "Cleanliness is next to Godliness" are Biblical, when they really aren't. Others are in the Bible but frequently misquoted—a big one is "Money is the root of all evil," which is actually "Love of money is the root of all kinds evil."
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_a62dae97	comment	It's common to assume that The Qur'an is to Muslims what the Bible is to Christians or believe that Islam is similar to Christianity in practice and institutions. In actual practice, Islam in multiple societies tends to be far looser in doctrine and practice, having little in the way of organization and centralization common even in Protestant sects. As such there are not many Muslim adherents who have read their Holy Book all the way through.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_a6543322	comment	Touhou Project also has the added honor of its characters and music being mainstream while the games themselves remain in obscurity, at least outside Japan. With the sheer amount of fan content (fanart, remixes, fanime, etc) it's almost impossible not to have encountered it at least once, knowingly or not. Those who do realize that the fanart and remixes are derivative works tend to assume that it's from an anime. Even amongst those who count themselves as fans, it's not uncommon for someone to have never actually played the games.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_a83bccc9	comment	Swan Lake by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky: the first name people think of when it comes to ballet, note even before Black Swan, but that's often as far as it goes. Music-wise, the Overture, the Waltz, and the Cygnets Dance get out in the public consciousness somewhat, but that's out of a running time of around two hours. Comparatively few people have seen the entire ballet (even on TV), or are aware of its characters, plot or composer.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_aa819c97	comment	And while we're in the same universe, CLANNAD ~After Story~. How many people can mention anything other than Nagisa's and Ushio's deaths?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_abf4c9b3	comment	Dead or Alive has the Xtreme Beach Episode spinoff games that are well known for the fanservice and being controversial because of the fanservice. What one can actually do in the game besides look at hot girls isn't really known, as people on the web are either too embarrassed to own it or feel content with just ogling the girls through screenshots and clips.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ad8764db	comment	Leyland Kirby's musical project Everywhere at the End of Time received acclaim in the late 2010s and early 2020s for, essentially, being a musical representation of how dementia feels and how heartbreaking it is to experience. Most who are interested in it will have heard the first track on it, too. However, the utter despair of the album series' theme, the way that the music quickly degenerates into little more than discordant, loud droning sounds after the first hour or so, and the sheer length of it (six and a half hours) make it very mentally taxing and time-consuming to get through. No wonder most people haven't listened to it past the first few tracks.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_aeb84363	comment	A Christmas Carol is well-known in the public consciousness because of all of the homages, retellings, adaptations and parodies of the story over the years. Yet few people know anything more than the basic plot structure of "Scrooge hates Christmas," "Scrooge meets three ghosts," and "Scrooge has a Heelâ€“Face Turn." Most people couldn't tell you who Jacob Marley was, who Scrooge's lost lover was, why Scrooge hates Christmas so much, or how class warfare was written into the story. Ask most people what the central theme is, and it'll probably be "Christmas is awesome" instead of "the rich ought to use their money to help the poor".note If education system in your country has "obligatory reads", there is a good chance you've read it somewhere late in the Elementary, though.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b08e1fd0	comment	Little Nemo: Everyone knows the scene where his bed is flying through the night or that he falls out of bed in the final panel, but how many people beyond that have ever read the stories? In this case, the anime movie adaptation, and the NES game based on it (obscure in their own right) are both more well known than the comic.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b0a7fc1e	comment	While people are generally aware that The Legend of Zelda (1989) cartoon exists, most wouldn't be able to tell you much of anything about it beyond Link's infamous catchphrase.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b0ea57d9	comment	The Mickey Mouse Club is overall mostly known for the theme song and its "Mouseketeers". The '90s version is only known to the mainstream for Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, and Christina Aguilera appearing on the show before they became household names. (It isn't nearly as well known that Ryan Gosling was on the show as it is with the former three). Amusingly, not only were none of the original cast members (the show actually premiered in the very late '80s), but the first three weren't even the first pop stars who had their careers launched by the program. ("The Party", anyone?) The 1950s original? Good luck finding anyone under the age of 65 who remembers it for anything other than Annette Funicello boob jokes.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b0fcce7	comment	Ironically, the above also applies to the 1992 film that introduced the world to the Buffy character in the first place. There are probably plenty of non-Buffy fans who are vaguely aware of its existence, having maybe seen it in a video store once or twice...but they couldn't mention anyone who was in it, despite one of those people being Luke Perry. Or another one of those people being Paul Reubens. Or two more of those people being Ben Affleck and Hilary Swank!
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b27fdd6d	comment	Catch-22 is much better known for the term it coined than for the novel itself.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b2ac2311	comment	The song "Linus and Lucy" (the unofficial theme for the Peanuts animated specials) actually has a jazz section in the middle that most people never noticed (and it is a shock when people learn to play it).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b449a8c7	comment	Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ by Lew Wallace. Yes, the films were based on a book. No, the book is a well-researched but original work of historical fiction, and the title character Judah Ben-Hur was not based on a real person of that era. Everyone knows there was a rather brutal chariot race near the end, but that's often as far as it goes. As for actually reading the book or even knowing about it... that's rather less common. And the classic films themselves possess a similar Mainstream Obscurity to Casablanca or Citizen Kane — many people just know that the 1959 film has Charlton Heston, a chariot race and is long as hell.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b4996199	comment	Spider-Man: Amazing Fantasy #15 featured the very first appearance of Spider-Man ever, and it's one of the three most famous comic book issues in the history of superhero comics. However, most people who've heard of it don't know that it contained several back-up one-shot stories apart from the Spider-Man adventure, and fewer have read any of them.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b50cc7e6	comment	There's really no question that Wolverine is the most well-known X-Man. But most people do not know that he was not a founding member of the team, and that in fact the team was nearly fifteen years old before he became a part of it, or that he was introduced, not in any mutant-related story but in an issue of The Incredible Hulk.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b5929672	comment	Singin' in the Rain is one of the most famous and iconic musicals of all time, and it's frequently cited as one of the greatest American films of the 20th century—yet relatively few people born after around 1980 have actually seen it. Case in point: everybody knows that it's a famous musical, and everybody knows that there's a scene where Gene Kelly and Debbie Reynolds, um...sing in the rain. But significantly fewer people could describe the plot. If you're actually curious: it's about a silent film star and a chorus girl in 1920s Hollywood who fall in love while trying to make their first talkie musical.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b5c5f55e	comment	Shadow Star has a bit of a reputation for its graphic violence and Lolicon and Shotacon-ish elements, but the quality itself is rarely discussed, probably since there aren't a lot of people who have actually read it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b611aafc	comment	Almost everyone will at least recognize one of AC/DC's Standard Snippets (the opening riffs of "Back in Black", "Highway to Hell" and "Thunderstruck" in particular) when they hear it. Back in Black is the second-highest selling album of all time (behind only Michael Jackson's Thriller), putting Akka Dakka in contention for the title of "most-successful band ever", but most non-Australians under the age of 25 would only know them from Iron Man and Megamind.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b618192f	comment	Nero is seen as the Ensemble Dark Horse of dubstep. Not bad, considering that their album never charted on the Billboard 200.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_b7704254	comment	KISS is so affected by this that most of what people think they know about the band is actually false. Gene Simmons is often thought to be the frontman. He actually shares duties with Paul Stanley, though Simmons is more outspoken off-stage. Few people remember that they made a film (KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park) or that there were more members than just Stanley, Simmons, Ace Frehley, and Peter Criss. Some believe that they were, or at least pretended to be, Satan worshipers, a rumor starting that their name was even an acronym for "Knights in Satan's Service" (the band members have routinely said the name isn't an acronym for anything). Finally, KISS is often thought of as a "heavy metal" band, when in fact their music could be, at best, considered "hard rock", and often included soft, gentle songs like "Beth" or "Forever".
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_bb23f928	comment	Pet Sounds, despite frequently being cited as one of the greatest albums of all time, is generally unknown outside hardcore Beach Boys fans, music fans in general, or musicians. It sold poorly on release (at least in the US, it did much better in the UK) and was overshadowed by Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band released a year later, and so despite the album being frequently cited by many musicians as a major influence, most people only know the Beach Boys as a poppy surf band. Ask anyone on the street to name a song by them and you'll likely hear "Surfin' U.S.A.", "I Get Around", or maybe "Good Vibrations" before you hear "God Only Knows" or "Wouldn't It Be Nice".
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_bbd1c54b	comment	Midnight Cowboy received much acclaim upon release, including the Academy Award for Best Picture, and is considered to be such an iconic and classic piece of film the United States government has it preserved (among with many others) in the National Film Registry. Its biggest impact upon the greater public? Being the source of the quote "Hey, I'm walkin' here!". Even then, the average person has no idea the quote even came from a film, only knowing it as a Stock Phrase associated with stereotypical New Yorkers. It's also known by a lesser number of people as an example of a movie released with the former X rating, who then assume it must have been earned through being exceptionally lurid and/or pornographic. In reality, the film's content isn't anything more extreme than what falls under an R rating, the X rating being requested by the distributor due to the LGBT themes.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_bf54646e	comment	Glenn Miller: One of the most famous big band leaders of all time, yet apart from "In the Mood" and "Moonlight Serenade" most people wouldn't recognize much of his work, and if they know about him, it's for his mysterious disappearance.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c0c57462	comment	Chrono Trigger is one of the most beloved games on the SNES, as well as one of the most highly acclaimed RPGs of all time. While it sold an at-the-time respectable 300,000 copies in the US, its commercial success and mainstream recognition (read: recognition among casual gamers) aren't anywhere near its popularity with hardcore gamers and old-school JRPG fans (ironically, the easy-to-learn mechanics and tightly-written story make it one of the more accessible old-school RPGs out there for casual players).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c2ab3494	comment	Nessun Dorma" from Turandot'' by Giacomo Puccini is among the most played works of music in film and in public events, but few have seen or heard the complete opera.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c43df4d8	comment	Anything related to Doctor Who prior to its revival in 2005. More people know it for scaring kids enough to make them hide behind the sofa despite its cheesy special effects than for its plotlines or most of its characters, and it's rare for a pre-revival Doctor that isn't Tom Baker's (the Fourth, who did have the longest tenure) to be referenced. Additionally, there are a number of individual stories that suffer from this. For instance, more people can tell you that "The War Games" introduced the Time Lords in its final episode than can describe the plot of the first nine episodes of the story leading up to it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c488b782	comment	The scene in Safety Last! where Harold Lloyd is hanging from a clock is far more famous than the rest of this film, let alone Lloyd himself. Only a few genuine trivia buffs can tell that Clark Kent's famous look was based on Lloyd's "glasses persona".
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c51f9990	comment	Many people are vaguely familiar with the account of Job, but most of them think he was tested by God to see if he would stay faithful. He was actually tested by Satan, who was trying to claim that humans only served God for selfish reasons. Another thing people don't know, or at least don't want to acknowledge about Job, is that the "Satan" in this book is actually "ha-Satan", or "the adversary", and is less "fallen angel and worker of iniquity on Earth" and more "prosecuting attorney". The traditional view of Satan, that he was cast from Heaven, in no way lines up with the Satan of this story, who attends a meeting in Heaven, seemingly as a matter of course. Some scholars believe this character is an angel whose job is to put humanity to the test.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c596486b	comment	Similarly, Anal Cunt are a band well known for their (jokingly) obscene titles and noisy screaming (ironically more well-known than many legitimate grindcore artists), but very few people have bought one of their albums.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c5e69cfa	comment	Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov is a virtual household name. However, her name isn't actually Lolita in the story. It's a nickname for Dolores (Haze) given by the pedophile Villain Protagonist, and not even her predominately used one. Her other nicknames include Dolly and Lo. The book doesn't really live up to its scandalous reputation, either, being that it's a richly written, highly allusive novel about the clash between decadent Europe and modern America.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c6245086	comment	Crysis is famous for its insanely detailed graphics, equally infamous for the insanely expensive PCs needed to run them, and that's about it. Conversations about Crysis that don't involve its graphics are rare, and Crysis is the go-to example to use for the "PC Master Race" in a forum argument. It's been described as "the only game that gets talked about more than it gets played".
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c6dbe98e	comment	Monster is regarded as one of the best anime of allâ€¦ but not watched by many.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_c7f59f7d	comment	The Teen Titans suffers from this, especially for modern audiences who are likely more exposed to the 2003 animated series, or for really young audiences who only know the gag version of it. While it was one of the most successful and acclaimed comics of the '80s and has continued in some form to this day, the show was what introduced the team to modern audiences, and has been ingrained in the minds of many non-comic readers as the definitive source. There are several ways this shows: Ask any non-comic fan what the lineup of the Teen Titans is, and if they can name any, they'll say, Robin, Starfire, Cyborg, Raven, and Beast Boy. In reality, this "core lineup" has never existed outside the animated series. In fact, the Teen Titans started in the '60s and the founders were Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, and Wonder Girl. Starfire, Cyborg, and Raven didn't even exist as characters yet at the time — Beast Boy did, but he was with the Doom Patrol, and only teamed up with the Titans a couple of times (they asked if he wanted to be a member of the Titans, but he said no). Even during the '80s, which had all of those five as members, it never was limited to just those five. In fact, the membership could get quite expansive as new members would join and the lineup would shift a lot. While other members of the team did appear in the show, they were recurring/minor characters. The main reason why the main team was limited to those five in the show was to avoid having too much to work within what is supposed to be children's television. Tellingly, even the 2003 comic revival meant to capitalize on the show's success and help introduce new readers to the Titans still didn't portray the lineup this way. Sure, it had Cyborg, Starfire, and Beast Boy, and Raven would join later, and it even had a Robin — but that Robin was Tim Drake, not Dick Grayson. Furthermore, it also featured Wonder Girl II, Impulse (who quickly became Kid Flash II), and Superboy. Some may have been confused as to who these people were. A hilarious illustration of this by audiences was during the New 52 relaunch of the Teen Titans. Many fans introduced by the show complained that it had none of the "original" members when the founding lineup was Red Robin, Wonder Girl II, Kid Flash II, Bunker, Solstice, Skitter, and Superboy. The only original member of the Teen Titans that's part of the "classic" lineup is Robin I, who later became Nightwing during his time with the Teen Titans. (The above lineup shares none of its members with the original Titans, or even the New Teen Titans, but still.) While that wasn't the only issue people had, far from it, it still showed how much people knew about the comic books versus the show. Admittedly, it probably wasn't very smart of DC to advertise a "new jumping-on point" and then leave out the most recognizable members of the team... Terra is perhaps the most famous Teen Titan that isn't part of the "Big Five". They know she was a mole sent by Deathstroke to infiltrate the Teen Titans. They also know she's a Tragic Villain who ultimately regretted what she did and did a Heelâ€“Face Turn before dying. Again, that's strictly a product of the show. While it's true that Terra was an agent sent by Deathstroke (or "Slade") to infiltrate the Teen Titans, and Beast Boy (known as Changeling during this time in the comics) fell in love with her in both versions, the differences are astounding. In the comics, she was irredeemably evil and a Jerk with a Heart of Jerk who wouldn't stop kicking the dog, and her death in the comics wasn't a Heroic Sacrifice, but rather a failed homicide when she tried to kill Deathstroke due to him "betraying" hernote Jericho briefly took over him to attack Terra. While the whole scenario was Terra's tragedy in the show, in the comics it was strictly portrayed as Beast Boy's tragedy, not hers. In fact, even Deathstroke was scared of how evil she was.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ca08598f	comment	There are very few people who have seen acclaimed shows like The Wire in full, yet because it is the general opinion of critics, they immediately proclaim them "the greatest TV show ever made" after watching the first few episodes. This is silly, given that it's a very slow-burning show which takes several episodes to get going. In general, shows on HBO and Showtime tend to have this problem, in part because they are higher tier networks that people have to pay extra for, thus meaning that most people can't see them legally unless they watch them on DVD or even digitally (either via downloading or streaming).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ca5d97f1	comment	Monty Python's Flying Circus: most people know Monty Python only for their films and in that case solely for Monty Python and the Holy Grail. The amount of people who actually watched the TV series is far lower. It's safe to say that although Monty Python has a small, but dedicated geeky fan base the general public has probably only watched about half an episode of the in total four seasons before deciding it's too weird or they just didn't get it. Probably more people are familiar with their most popular and accessible individual sketches, like the Dead Parrot, Lumberjack Song, Nudge Nudge and The Ministry Of Silly Walks, which are frequently compiled out of context — and often heavily edited — on DVDs or web video channels than the more obscure Reference Overdosed Anti-Humor sketches. Similarly John Cleese, Eric Idle and maybe Michael Palin are the only Pythons most people can recognize by face and name. The others' faces will ring a bell if you've watched any of their episodes or films, but only dedicated fans will be able to name them. Graham Chapman is likely remembered by most solely as King Arthur in the aforementioned film, mainly because of how memetic so many of his scenes from that film have become. Terry Jones would be lucky to be remembered by anyone outside of the most dedicated Python fans. Terry Gilliam is known almost solely for his directing career, but in his case it's somewhat more fair because he did not spend much time in front of the camera, even as a member of the troupe, and when he did, he tended to have his face covered. His iconic animations are also remembered, but few aside from fans realize he is the man behind them. There are also many (primarily non-British) people who have never seen the TV show or the films and are (passingly) aware of the Python phenomenon as merely a crude pastiche of countercultural Deranged Animation and quirky humor that only nerds could possibly understand. Many assume it's all completely incomprehensible and don't bother to even watch it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_cb6abef3	comment	A weird reversal of this occurred when The Avengers was released. A large number of fans believed that the film was odd for not featuring Wolverine or Spider-Man, even saying it's not the Avengers without them. Despite the fact that they were largely the two Marvel heroes most recognizable to the general public, both of them had only been full-time Avengers since 2005, and in fact, a good 40 years of Avengers history barely included either of them (Spider-Man became a reserve member in the early '90s but was rarely used unless all team members were being called in).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_cd8e6855	comment	Ultraman: In the west, the eponymous hero is a decently well-known character with a recognizable appearance and a reputation for battling giant monsters and being very popular in Japan. Other than that, people really don't seem to know anything about him and the Ultra Series. Even on this very wiki, people will call every different Ultra Series and every individual Ultra hero just "Ultraman" under the assumption that there was a single long-running show in the 60s and 70snote Due to First Installment Wins, good luck finding anyone aware that the Ultra Series is still alive and well today featuring different versions of the same character.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ce15336	comment	The Catcher in the Rye. It doesn't help that the novel became more famous (or infamous) for its association with John Hinckley Junior and Mark David Chapman than for any actual content in the novel. It's truly a shame because many people who have actually read the book have found it life-changing, thanks to its rather philosophical meditations & ruminations on childhood innocence. It's not just a "dirty" book.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_cffa1bda	comment	Richard Wagner. You definitely know "Ride of the Valkyries" from Die WalkÃ¼re and the "Bridal Chorus" from Lohengrin (though probably without the words), and you might know "The Pilgrims' Chorus" from TannhÃ¤user (though it isn't performed in one chunk like that in the opera) or the "Liebestod" from Tristan und Isolde, but that will be about it. He wrote 113 compositions, including 13 operas (most of which were rather too long, making their Mainstream Obscurity understandable).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d0744832	comment	If you ask a random person who the quintessential Avengers are, you'll probably be told Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, and The Incredible Hulk. The problem is that the Avengers for a long time did not have a regular cast and roster. The first ten issues or so of the comics had repeated defections. The Hulk left the Avengers early and was a member of the team for exactly two issues, and unlike other team members did not rejoin for over 40 years after quitting (the team which Hulk had a longer membership in was The Defenders, which was finally made into an In Name Only Netflix series). Captain America wasn't a founding member of the team, he was thawed out of ice in a later issue, and joined the team after that, and for a long time, the two most common founding members were Ant-Man and The Wasp, who were not only Adapted Out from The Avengers (2012) but when finally adapted were made into Scott Lang and Hope van Dyne, both of whom are Legacy Characters. A weird reversal of this occurred when The Avengers was released. A large number of fans believed that the film was odd for not featuring Wolverine or Spider-Man, even saying it's not the Avengers without them. Despite the fact that they were largely the two Marvel heroes most recognizable to the general public, both of them had only been full-time Avengers since 2005, and in fact, a good 40 years of Avengers history barely included either of them (Spider-Man became a reserve member in the early '90s but was rarely used unless all team members were being called in). Likewise, many see the Avengers as the Alternate Company Equivalent to the Justice League, and the prominent super-team. In actual fact, Fantastic Four is canonically the greatest team in the Marvel Universe and were originally intended to be the Marvel take on the Justice League. For most of its publication, The Avengers were far less popular and respected than the Fantastic Four and especially the X-Men and the reason for its regular roster was that it was seen as a dumping ground for B and C-Listers who generally couldn't carry a book or title on their own. Where in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Spider-Man wants to be an Avenger, in the original comics he wanted to join the Fantastic Four (rejected because Reed said they were a family first and team second) and his closest relationship with anyone in the Marvel Universe was Johnny Storm. Granted, this has shifted in later years where the Avengers have become the premier team in the Marvel Universe, but that wasn't until the early '00s and most heroes have been an Avenger at some point in their careers after Marvel started promoting them more (what with the X-Men and Fantastic Four's film rights having been tied to 20th Century Fox for many years).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d46ea355	comment	Evillious Chronicles is well-known for the "Story of Evil" arc, beginning with the song "Daughter of Evil," and maybe you'll know that that arc was part of a "Seven Deadly Sins" series... but far fewer people know that the roles the Vocaloids play in these songs became established characters and it was actually the first "Vocaloid-based original canon" that led to others like Black★Rock Shooter, Shuuen No Shiori Project, and Kagerou Daze. In fact, "Story of Evil" is a very minor part of a sprawling canon, though merchandise, adaptations, and eventually the Grand Finale noticed that it was much more well-known than the rest and gave Riliane (who? Oh, right, "Daughter of Evil Rin") and her story arc a big shot of Wolverine Publicity.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d4ee383b	comment	The same goes for Yoko Ono herself. She is the most recognizable Avant-Garde Music and performance artist in the world, but almost nobody has listened to any of her albums. And if they did they usually didn't like it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d5831424	comment	Rock and roll singer The Big Bopper is remembered for exactly two things: his hit "Chantilly Lace" and dying in the same plane crash that killed Buddy Holly and Ritchie Valens.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d634ac98	comment	The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson. Most people know the names and the basic premise, and the expression for dramatic personality shift that it spawned. There have been over a hundred full adaptations made, as well as countless references in popular culture, usually involving people quaffing potions and becoming monsters. And how many people know that, unlike in any adaptation in any medium, whether serious or parodic, Jekyll and Hyde being two sides of the same man was a surprise ending? This was, reportedly, the basis for the now-lost film The Janus Head, starring Conrad Veidt. The film kept the story intact but changed the characters' names, so nobody in the audience even realized it was a Jekyll and Hyde adaptation until the end, thus preserving The Reveal.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d709b969	comment	The Elric Saga is one of the most influential works in Fantasy history, and yet it seems to be utterly obscure among most of the modern fantasy fandom, with even only moderately successful recent series having bigger fandoms and being more widely known. That the series has been damn near plagiarized by many much more famous works seems to be unknown to all but Michael Moorcock himself; How many know that the forces of Chaos in Warhammer 40,000 are based almost wholly on those in the Elric stories, to the extent that even the 8-pointed star of Chaos originates from the Elric stories? No to mention the fact that quite possibly every single soul-stealing sword is just a less interesting copy of Stormbringer...
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d794a2a2	comment	The anime adaptation of AKIRA (which is far better known than the manga) has been hailed as one of the greatest animated films of all time, made $49 million at the box office and is very iconic, but there are plenty of people (mostly those who weren't around for the initial release of the film) who are familiar with the major scenes and the memes they've spawned but have never actually watched the movie themselves and have no idea what the plot is about.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d79d98c3	comment	Due to the characters of One: Kagayaku Kisetsu e appearing in Eternal Fighter Zero, many have heard of One, but very few have actually played this visual novel. It doesn't help that the non-hentai OVA is universally despised.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_d8afd410	comment	To a smaller degree, his Unico series might get an occasional mention from Gen X and Gen Y Americans and Canadians every once in a while, since the films used to frequently air on Disney Channel (then known as "The Disney Channel" when both movies were airing) during its infancy throughout the 1980s and has gained a cult following in the west. That same generation even ran a successful crowdfunded kickstarter on getting the original Unico manga series an official English translation in the early 2010s, due to having very fond memories of the Unico films (and it's even odds if anyone associates it with Tezuka).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_da0989e8	comment	Also sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss is best known for the "Sunrise" segment, famously used in 2001: A Space Odyssey and by Ric Flair, but the rest of the score is unknown.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_dac5fe30	comment	OutRun is frequently referenced in American cartoons as the ONE racing game and has influenced many future racing games, but very few people nowadays aside from the retro gaming community know what it is, let alone played it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ddd4b174	comment	Monopoly is argubly the most famous board game in existence, and probably the first thing that comes to mind when the average person thinks "board game." However, many aspects of the game, such as auctioning off any property that a player lands on but doesn't want to buy, are virtually unknown, and others, such as winning a pile of money by landing on Free Parking, are actually common house rules rather than official rules of the game. And very few people know that it was originally invented as a condemnation, not a celebration, of capitalism.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ddfc9da9	comment	Lingua Ignota is among the most famous contemporary experimental musicians, receiving a perfect score from The Needle Drop and getting covered in Pichfork and even the Guardian. At the same time, few people know anything about her except for fans of goth and noise music.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_df0c2524	comment	Despite being a prolific composer of symphonies, chamber music, and choral works, the only music of Johannes Brahms most people know is his lullaby (Wiegenlied).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e0bfc6c4	comment	Being John Malkovich has an in-universe example with the titular actor (who plays himself). Everyone in the movie admires John Malkovich immensely, and they seem convinced that he's one of the world's greatest living actors. None of them can actually name a movie that Malkovich has been in (except "that jewel thief movie," which Malkovich insists he wasn't in).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e0c93337	comment	The War of the Worlds: Everyone knows that the aliens are downright unstoppable by normal means but get sick and die. Few know that the novel was written in, and set in, Victorian London in the late 19th century and that the bulk of the novel is actually a realistic account of a city and its people attacked by aliens. Thanks to later adaptations which gave it a Setting Update, many assume that it was written in The '50s or originated as pulp fiction when it was actually quite respectable and valued by readers across genres in its day and age. Also, what many miss is that the aliens are not unstoppable because they are invincible, but because the technology at the time was not advanced enough to fight them effectively (one of the tripods gets smashed by pure chance by artillery in the book).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e18af54e	comment	Similarly The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "Chuckles Bites The Dust" has often been cited as one of if not the funniest TV episode of all time...but how many who are aware of that "fact" have even seen it or any episode of the show? In a similar vein, the show's theme song and opening sequence are far more recognizable than anything about the actual show.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e278316b	comment	The Prisoner (1967) was the show with the guy and the giant balloon, right? And he had, like, a jacket, and he was a number or something?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e2e4d822	comment	Flo Rida is one of the best-selling rappers of all time (even outselling icons such as Tupac Shakur and Snoop Dogg) thanks to his top 40 hit songs about partying in clubs like "Right Round", "Low", and "Club Can't Handle Me", but you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who's actually listened to an album from beginning to end (none of which have sold better than gold) or someone who can name any songs besides his hits. The same deal can be said for fellow-Miami rapper Pitbull, really. This most likely stems due to the fact that most of their major hits have choruses performed by the featured artists rather than themselves, with only a couple of exceptions such as "I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho)", "Whistle", and "My House". Their brand of hip house and pop rap having fallen out of style by the late 2010s hasn't helped.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e381e71f	comment	Within the Digimon franchise itself is Renamon, who is extremely popular in furry fanart, but many of these fanartists haven't actually seen ''Tamers'' or even any ''Digimon'' series.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e53e8d5	comment	Felix the Cat: One of the oldest, most iconic, and enduring cartoon characters of all time. Yet, how many people under 30 have ever seen one of his cartoons of the silent era? Apart from that: how many people could actually tell you anything about Felix's personality, or his supporting cast? The reason the series even remains known is simply by the power of inertia since the series is so firmly rooted in the public consciousness and animation culture.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e5497d09	comment	Wolf's Rain is likely writer Keiko Nobumoto's most famous work after Cowboy Bebop, but falls into the category of critically acclaimed and well-known but little seen outside of a small core of diehard fans due to its reputation for being really cryptic and really, really sad.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e5ae92df	comment	F.A.T.A.L. is nigh-on universally regarded as the worst tabletop RPG ever created, and most people passingly familiar with the medium can list off some of its more infamous features (or at least, have heard the phrase "roll for anal circumference" at some point). Of course, given this reputation, vanishingly few people have read the rulebook or tried the game out, with most knowing it primarily from the 2003 RPGnet review that brought it to public attention. This is furthered by the fact that two of the most common points about it are its Loads and Loads of Rules and ludicrously extensive character creation, both of which make it difficult for anyone looking for a Bile Fascination thrill to get far.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e5feb1e	comment	Ace Attorney has a large fanbase, but to the general public it's only known for Phoenix Wright and the Objection! meme. Good luck finding someone who isn't a fan that can name any character besides Phoenix Wright, or knows anything about the gameplay.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e66a25a9	comment	Rifts has been dubbed "the most popular game that no one plays." It has an interesting world and cool artwork, so lots of gamers own a few of the books, but Palladium Books' Metaversal System is generally considered rather clunky, so few people actually play it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_e8a4ef81	comment	A hilarious illustration of this by audiences was during the New 52 relaunch of the Teen Titans. Many fans introduced by the show complained that it had none of the "original" members when the founding lineup was Red Robin, Wonder Girl II, Kid Flash II, Bunker, Solstice, Skitter, and Superboy. The only original member of the Teen Titans that's part of the "classic" lineup is Robin I, who later became Nightwing during his time with the Teen Titans. (The above lineup shares none of its members with the original Titans, or even the New Teen Titans, but still.) While that wasn't the only issue people had, far from it, it still showed how much people knew about the comic books versus the show. Admittedly, it probably wasn't very smart of DC to advertise a "new jumping-on point" and then leave out the most recognizable members of the team...
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ea377bc0	comment	The System Shock series is considered one of the best horror-themed shooters to be released on the PC. However, almost nobody had ever played the series prior to its rerelease on Steam and GOG in 2013. There are many reasons to why the series didn't achieve mainstream success from its PC exclusivity to its lack of physical copies since 2001 to simply being a very unforgiving and obtuse game in general. In fact, most are more familiar with its Spiritual Successors Bioshock (i.e. System Shock UNDER THE SEA) and Dead Space, which were released on both PC and Consoles.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ec1315a6	comment	Saikano is known for being depressing, but it isn't actually watched or read that often.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_eca5afb5	comment	Everyone knows about Sun Tzu's The Art of War, which could arguably be the most well-known military book ever, mostly after it was discovered and adopted by corporate schools and businessmen and repurposed as a self-help book. But they almost certainly haven't read it in full, and probably don't even know that it's very short and reads mostly like a poem.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ed0165b2	comment	War and Peace is very well known primarily for two things: first, for being an absolute masterpiece, and second, for being a Doorstopper over half a million words long. The sheer length scares people away from reading it, though it was a major bestseller in its day, and among Leo Tolstoy scholars is actually not considered among his best work.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_eda6d96a	comment	Spirited Away is widely regarded as a flawless, exceptional, almost untouchable masterwork of animation, and won the Academy Award for Best Animated Film in 2003. But despite this, similar to Fantasia, there are many in the general public who haven't seen it. And even those who have seen it have found the story surprisingly difficult to follow and understand. The reason for the film's success is its uniquely surreal world design and challenging themes such as social alienation, loneliness, discrimination, slavery and the loss of identity, but these aspects simply don't appeal to mainstream audiences, who are more used to far more accessible and cheerful animated films by Disney, Pixar, DreamWorks Animation, etc. This somewhat applies to Studio Ghibli in general. In fact, Spirited Away itself is perhaps of their more accessible films, ironically enough. Barring the more obviously kid-friendly movies such as My Neighbor Totoro or Ponyo on the Cliff by the Sea, most general audiences are largely unfamiliar with their catalogue of films. Likely due to many of them (even ones that aren't blatantly meant for adults such as Princess Mononoke or Grave of the Fireflies) often featuring themes, plotlines, and worlds that even grown adults could find uncomfortable and upsetting upon first viewing. Making their audience in the West to be largely comprised of otakus, animation connoisseurs, and movie buffs (of which, there is significant overlap), but rarely amongst the average moviegoing public.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_eef69f10	comment	The Sherlock Holmes stories. Plenty of people have read them, but far, far more people are aware of him than have read any of them, or get the wrong impressions from adaptations and sundry works that make him a Victorian superhero. The original Sherlock was a Small Steps Hero who largely tackled small cases rather than solving murder mysteries. Someone like Jack the Ripper is far above his pay grade. Likewise, The Watson is the true protagonist of the books, not Sherlock, and the original Holmes was an asexual cocaine addict. Not to mention, nearly every element that people associate with Holmes, such as his trademark Deerstalker cap and Inverness cape, his gourd calabash pipe, and Watson's status as a clumsy, cowardly load, all come from adaptations of the character, likely the old 3's and 40s films starring Basil Rathbone. These days the character of Professor Moriarty is remembered as Holme's arch-nemesis, a status he never had in the stories. He was mentioned as being "the Napoleon of crime" and that he was as brilliant as Holmes, from the other side, but he only appeared in two stories (his first appearance was also the appearance of his death, while his second was set earlier and is his only appearance within a mystery). It is true that he was behind some crimes that Holmes never learned about, but nowhere is he described as "Holme's arch-enemy", "greatest enemy" or "the only one Holmes could never defeat" or any other superlatives applied to him. On average, most people think of Holmes and Watson both as being somewhere in their forties, maybe even fifties, for a bulk of their stories, and think of Watson as a short, plump man with a large moustache. Some adaptations have even given Watson a predilection for constantly eating, or constantly being hungry, or always on a diet to lose some of his extra weight. These people would be shocked to learn that Holmes and Watson were in their mid- to late twenties when first introduced (though they age throughout the years the stories cover, and are approaching, or over, 60 in "His Last Bow") and that Watson is neither short nor overweight, but is probably the more conventionally attractive of the two. Where his weight issues came from in later adaptations is a mystery worthy of Holmes himself.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_ef128853	comment	The only thing most people know about girl group G.R.L. (aside from maybe their feature on Pitbull's "Wild Wild Love") is that one of its members committed suicide.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_eff24bfe	comment	BÃ©cassine: In the French-speaking world BÃ©cassine is an icon, one of the oldest comics around. But even though she is easily recognizable in France, most people of later generations have likely never read any of her stories and she is unknown in the rest of the world.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f1aaff66	comment	Unless they've been in a coma for a decade or two, they'll know who Batman is. But you'd be hard-pressed to find someone outside the hardcore fandom who knows that he now has a pre-teen son with the daughter of one of his enemies. Likewise, said enemy and daughter of said enemy, Ra's and Talia Al-Ghul are both relatively new characters and are still not widely used in mainstream adaptations. They were created in the early 1970s but were not adapted until Batman: The Animated Series in the early '90s. It took over another decade for them to show up in The Dark Knight Trilogy and they're radically different than their comic counterparts. They remain popular characters in adaptations aimed at existing comics fans but arguably the only comics-accurate versions of the characters in a mainstream adaptation is in the Arkham video game franchise.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f1ff9fbd	comment	Most people recognize The Velvet Underground & Nico for its Andy Warhol banana cover, but only rock fans can name any of its tracks ("I'm Waiting For The Man" is the only track to get airplay despite not being single). Thanks to covers such as R.E.M.'s versions of "There She Goes Again" and "Femme Fatale" and Japan's version of "All Tomorrow's Parties", tracks from the album are known by people who were already fans of those bands before they checked out the Velvets.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f361b493	comment	Most people could probably say that "Lucy Does a TV Commercial" is commonly considered the best I Love Lucy episode, but not anything beyond about it besides the obvious said in the title.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f3c3510d	comment	Classical Music generally suffers from this. The composers have become proverbial household names, their famous works are reduced to a few famous pieces that are repurposed as ad-jingles, ringtones, or Standard Snippet and are often known or heard via Parody Displacement and Pop-Cultural Osmosis. Johann Sebastian Bach is widely seen as a high point of classical music, but the most recognized work by him is the opening tunes of Toccata and Fugue in D minor. Among aficionados, the authorship is still up for debate to be attributed to him on that piece. Bach also wrote the chorale setting usually known in English as "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring," though most people don't even recognize the fact that it comes from a longer sacred cantata. The Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber is widely used in films, including Platoon and The Elephant Man, to the point where people don't think of it as a stand-alone concert piece. Most of Barber's other works are not very well known today outside of musical circles. Despite being a prolific composer of symphonies, chamber music, and choral works, the only music of Johannes Brahms most people know is his lullaby (Wiegenlied). Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart has a huge body of work, but is mostly reduced to the first few notes of "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik", the "Requiem", the "Queen of the Night" aria from The Magic Flute, his 40th Symphony, his 25th Symphony, and Rondo Alla Turca. To most people, he is just a Child Prodigy in a wig. And Amadeus hasn't done his reputation much good either. The general public nowadays has the impression he was a cross between a genius and a Manchild with an obnoxious laugh who spoke with a very thick American accent. Most people can recognize the first few notes of "FÃ¼r Elise" and his Ode to Joy from the Ninth Symphony, plus the first few notes of the Fifth Symphony, but have never heard the rest of the music that follows. Everyone knows Beethoven's grumpy face and knows he was deaf. Antonio Vivaldi is best known for The Four Seasons, but usually only the opening movements of Spring. That he wrote other music too is unknown. Nessun Dorma" from Turandot'' by Giacomo Puccini is among the most played works of music in film and in public events, but few have seen or heard the complete opera. Also sprach Zarathustra by Richard Strauss is best known for the "Sunrise" segment, famously used in 2001: A Space Odyssey and by Ric Flair, but the rest of the score is unknown. Edvard Grieg's score for Peer Gynt is often reduced to simply the "Morning Mood", "Aase's Death", "Anitra's Dance" and "In the Hall of the Mountain King". That the work has more pieces than that is usually not known, let alone that he composed other stuff too. On the flip side, his music is far more famous and reproduced more often than Henrik Ibsen's masterpiece, so there's that. Igor Stravinsky is well known as one of the most famous, important, influential, and versatile classical composers of the 20th century. Despite that he is just known for snippets from The Firebird and The Rite of Spring and in the case of the latter only for the huge riot that broke out during the premier in 1913. That he also composed less brutal music is mostly unknown, let alone that the majority of his oeuvre was in fact quite accessible neoclassical music. Richard Wagner. You definitely know "Ride of the Valkyries" from Die WalkÃ¼re and the "Bridal Chorus" from Lohengrin (though probably without the words), and you might know "The Pilgrims' Chorus" from TannhÃ¤user (though it isn't performed in one chunk like that in the opera) or the "Liebestod" from Tristan und Isolde, but that will be about it. He wrote 113 compositions, including 13 operas (most of which were rather too long, making their Mainstream Obscurity understandable). Maurice Ravel: Known for solely the "BolÃ©ro", which is almost a Black Sheep Hit, as the rest of his oeuvre sounds different. Camille Saint SaÃ«ns: Apart from "Danse Macabre" and "Carnival Of The Animals" it almost seems as if he didn't do anything else in his life. Erik Satie: Hailed as one of the great innovators of classical music, yet apart from "Trois GymnopÃ©dies", which can be heard on soundtracks once in a while, his music isn't that well known to the general public. Edward Elgar: In the UK he is known for the "Land Of Hope And Glory" march from "Pomp & Circumstance", which is still played annually to bring up Patriotic Fervor during the Last Night of the Proms and other official UK national manifestations. In the US he is known for the same melody but associated with college graduations and Macho Men. So it's safe to say that that one section of the entire "Pomp & Circumstance" march is more well-known than anything else he ever did. "Nimrod" from the Enigma Variations is also a standard snippet, but it's open to question how many people actually recognise it as his. Gustav Holst: "The Planets" is one of the most popular musical works of all time and has been plagiarized so often by other composers, especially on movie soundtracks that depict science fiction or battles that most people probably assume he stole it from them instead of the other way around. It's also his only famous work, more well-known than the composer itself. Within "The Planets" itself, everybody knows how Mars and Jupiter go, and there must presumably be another five, but... Aaron Copland is one of America's most celebrated composers, yet only "Simple Gifts" (from Appalachian Spring), "Hoedown" (from Rodeo and his "Fanfare For The Common Man" may ring a bell when played on a CD. Swan Lake by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky: the first name people think of when it comes to ballet, note even before Black Swan, but that's often as far as it goes. Music-wise, the Overture, the Waltz, and the Cygnets Dance get out in the public consciousness somewhat, but that's out of a running time of around two hours. Comparatively few people have seen the entire ballet (even on TV), or are aware of its characters, plot or composer. As for some of Tchaikovsky's other works, you'd likely recognize the swooning string lines from his Romeo and Juliet Fantasy-Overture and the rousing finale of the 1812 Overture (a melody which first shows up early in the piece), but those are mere snippets of pieces which both stretch well over fifteen minutes. And many Americans also run the risk of attributing the latter as a piece written about their own War of 1812 and not Napoleon's Russian invasion, despite the liberal use of the French national anthem and Russian folk tunes to symbolize the warring armies.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f40f4d9	comment	Scent of a Woman is best known for having won Al Pacino his only Oscar, and is seen as controversial due to being seen as a Consolation Award or as snubbing the likes of Denzel Washington and Robert Downey Jr. It's also known less for the content of the film itself and more for the "HOO-HA" Verbal Tic that the central character utters, something that later became synonymous with Pacino's many late-period bombastic performances.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f7d8fd70	comment	The Goon Show is hugely influential; it launched the careers of Peter Sellers and Spike Milligan, inspired most of the Monty Python team and their contemporaries, and codified many of the "zany Sketch Show" tropes. But does anyone actually listen to it much these days?
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f8713888	comment	The Christmas 2012 issue of The Economist described Le Grand Meaulnes by Henri Alain-Fournier as "the most influential unread novel". (This would apply mainly in the Anglosphere and most certainly not in France).
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f8eaad5b	comment	Citizen Kane is probably most famous today for being regarded as one of the best, if not the best, films ever made. Everyone knows that it's about a businessman named Charles Foster Kane, the "Rosebud" scene, and that It Was His Sled. They might also know that he runs for office at one point, and they might recognize that gif of him clapping. If they're a film buff, they're probably aware that Welles had a feud with William Randolph Hearst over whether Kane was based on him, which led to the film's Award Snub. Past that? Not a whole lot. The names of characters besides Kane, the film's unusual structure, and basic facts about the plot like what Kane's actual business was, tend to be far less known. One particular thing is that Kane actually owned Rosebud for decades until his death when many parodies or jokey summaries seem to think he pined for it his whole life and never got it back. A great example of this is in the commonly observed "Plot Hole" of who actually heard Kane say "Rosebud" in the opening scene - something the movie actually does address toward the end but in a scene far less iconic than the movie's beginning.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f9be6f1b	comment	The Color Purple has won several awards and has a memetic reputation especially amongst black Americans, yet the actual book itself doesn't get discussed much besides everyone knowing it's a tearjerker. Due to Adaptation Displacement with its more family-friendly 1980s film, most don't realize that the original book is actually a quite adult story with heavy Queer Romance elements.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_f9fdc3b2	comment	Most people know that Steamboat Willie is Mickey Mouse's first sound cartoon and the film that launched the Disney empire. The opening Signature Scene of Mickey whistling and steering the boat is considered one of the most iconic scenes in the history of animation and has since become the ident for Walt Disney Feature Animation early in the 21st century, but how many are familiar with the rest of the plot? Funnily enough, when the cartoon finally went into the public domain in 2024, many modern viewers watched it for the first time out of curiosity and were surprised by the amount of cartoon animal cruelty involved to the point it became memetic.note Nothing graphic happens, Mickey plays a bunch of animals like instruments (playing a duck like a trumpet, pulling piglet tails and then poking their mother's nipples, pulling on a cat's tail and swinging the cat away, etc.) Then at the end of the short he throws a potato at a parrot laughing at him.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_fb14d1b2	comment	Pity Uncle Tom's Cabin. It was the second best-selling book of the 19th century in the U.S.note trailing only The Bible, but is now known only as of the origin of the slur "Uncle Tom", which has little to do with the anti-slavery novel and everything to do with the pro-slavery minstrel parodies of it.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_fb7a5509	comment	Futility, or the Wreck of the Titan: Everyone knows that it's the book that predicted the RMS Titanic disaster, something marketing has capitalized on heavily (note that its cover features the Titan with its stern raised up in the air, much like Titanic when it sank), but few know that the actual plot is largely about the ship's lookout (one of the few survivors) dealing with the aftermath of the sinking, including the mother of a girl he saved suing him and his superiors drugging him to make sure he can't reveal that they invalidated their insurance policy with reckless sailing.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_fb8549c	comment	Speaking of Deathstroke, Marvel's Deadpool has surpassed him in popularity to such a degree that even Deadpool fans might not know who Deathstroke even is. It doesn't help that Deadpool has since far surpassed his relatively generic villain persona from the early 90s, and most people don't even know that he didn't develop his "merc-with-a-mouth" antihero reputation, as well as his fourth-wall breaking (his best known attribute), until much later.
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_fc733780	comment	Places in the Heart — a.k.a. the movie that won Sally Field the Best Actress Oscar in 1985 is far less famous today than her embarrassing Oscar acceptance speech, which thanks to Beam Me Up, Scotty! is remembered as "You really like me!" (And who remembers the first film that won her the same honor, 1979's Norma Rae? The reason her second win got such an effusive reaction out of her was that she finally felt taken seriously as an actress after starting her career in Gidget and The Flying Nun.)
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Mainstream Obscurity / int_fdd11c1b	comment	Similarly, MOON, starring Eternal Fighter Zero's Ikumi Amasawa, is the one EFZ-related visual novel that doesn't have an anime adaptation (or TV Tropes page, for that matter). It's easy to see why - MOON is an H-Game so dark, disgusting, and graphic that no one ever gets around to playing it. An anime perhaps could be done, but it would take dedication and no regards for censors.
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