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It's not unusual for fiction to depict the effects crime can have on the criminal's family. This trope is about when the criminal's family reacts with either disbelief, disavowal of responsibility or, if they're hedging their bets, both. When confronted with evidence of serious wrongdoing, they often go through predictable emotional processes, most prominently denial. Denial as a psychological phenomenon can manifest in many forms, and they may just have Failed a Spot Check on the criminal's behavior. When a family member or guardian is brought face-to-face with strong evidence that their child or more rarely other relative is a criminal, it will of course affect them in different ways. Some will sadly accept it and move on with their lives; some will be angry at their child but maintain ties. To fall under this trope, though, the family must either: React by denying any responsibility at all for the offending party. React with rhetorical disbelief, where the family uses an expression of disbelief to show surprise. React with totally irrational disbelief, some form of psychological denial. Whichever way it is expressed, this trope can sometimes be used to help show that it is not just the victims' lives and families that are disrupted by serious crime, to humanise a criminal character, or for laughs. Even if these reactions apply only temporarily, they count. People change, and few people in fiction or real life remain in denial their whole life. Contrast: The Family That Slays Together, where not only did the parents raise their kids to be criminals, but also treat crime as a family activity, and Don't Tell Mama, where the child tries to hide their criminal behavior from their parents. Compare Parental Obliviousness, where the parents never realise their offspring is a criminal or otherwise unsavory — subconscious cases of Mama Didn't Raise No Criminal might be stopping them from seeing the truth in some cases. Also compare I Have No Son!, where family members deny even the physical fact of their blood relationship. See also Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas and Even Evil Can Be Loved. |
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When Taylor's father from Worm discovers that his teenage daughter is a ruthless supervillain who holds the city of Brockton Bay in an iron grip, he's shocked. After she turns herself in he takes the opportunity to talk to her and get her side of the story, but the fact that she then murders two people in front of him damages chances for reconciliation badly. | |
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Subverted in No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy In H.A.R.M's Way; throughout the game, the Big Bad Director of H.A.R.M. keeps getting calls from his mother who keeps expressing her shame at her son's criminal activities. | |
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In God Told Me To, a sniper randomly shoots fourteen people from a tower. His mother refuses to believe he had anything to do with it, saying he was a good student who couldn't possibly have had such good aim. She thinks there must have been multiple snipers, and the police are covering it up and pinning the murders on her son. | |
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RainbowDoubleDash's Lunaverse: In "At the Grand Galloping Gala", the reason why Night Light is so hard on Trixie and Ponyville by association is that he can't believe Twilight did anything to cause trouble back in "Boast Busted" and instead lays the blame solely on Trixie. Ditzy eventually calls him out on it, using the fact that she herself is a mother to slap down his attempts at self-justification, stating that just because they're parents doesn't mean they should ignore their children's wrongdoing. | |
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CSI: NY: There's an episode where an older couple are savagely beaten, to the point that the husband dies and the wife suffers permanent brain damage. Although the evidence points to their son as the perpetrator, his mother refuses to believe he did it. It turns out that she was right. The family had moved into a house that was owned by a couple who decided to move away from the neighborhood after their son raped his girlfriend in high school. The CSIs conclude that years after being released from prison, their son went back to the house to kill them because they testified against him in court, but he ended up attacking the new owners. Played straight much earlier in the series. The mother of the perp in the season 1 finale has this exact reaction when Mac and Stella tell her that her son is wanted for murder. She reluctantly relents and lets them search her property for him. |
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In Runaways, Dr. Hayes, Molly's grandmother, adamantly believes that her daughter Alice and adopted son Gene were innocent prior to joining the Pride. Of course, Dr. Hayes is a Mad Scientist who performed genetic experiments on her own children and cats and was planning on performing experiments on her own granddaughter, so her grasp of morality is rather tenuous. Although this is slightly subverted in that she did seem aware of their more megalomaniacal tendencies, but felt the two became Drunk On Power by getting involved with the Pride. Power, she adds, she would've gladly given them had they been patient. | |
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Bryony in Outcast of Redwall refuses to believe her adopted son Veil is growing up to be a psychopath (he gets it from his birth father) until it's too late. | |
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In The Simpsons episode "Marge Be Not Proud", this was initially Marge's reaction when Bart was confronted for shoplifting during a family Christmas photo. But when the security guard shows her the undeniable proof, all bets are off. In "Bart's Girlfriend", Reverend Lovejoy couldn't believe his daughter Jessica stole from the church collection plate. Inverted in "Four Regrettings and a Funeral" when Marge looks for a way to blame herself for Bart. |
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Bruce Coville's Book of... Nightmares II: Downplayed; throughout Amanda's Room, the late Amanda's parents seem to have forgotten all the times she fought with her younger sister Brenda. | |
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Played with in Gotham. Mama Cobblepot at first seems like a textbook example of Parental Obliviousness concerning her son's criminal activities, but there are hints that she suspects more than she's letting on and is just in denial. Played cruelly straight when Don Maroni accuses her of knowing and shoves the truth down her throat, and she faints in shock and denial. | |
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In an issue of Foolkiller, the titular vigilante has been investigating a series of murders in Central Park where cyclists are ambushed, assaulted, and beaten to death with pieces of their own bicycles. He finds the killers to be a gang of teenage dropouts and begins killing them one by one with his Disintegrator Ray. The surviving kids flee into their tenement building for help, and the mother of one of the boys lays Foolkiller low with her broom. When Foolkiller tells the woman what her son has been doing, she simply retorts that since he isn't the police, it's "none of his business". Realizing that the mother knew that her child was a murderer and tacitly (or perhaps explicitly) approved of it, Foolkiller declares her an even greater fool than the kids and blasts her to hell without hesitation. | |
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Averted in Ultimate Spider-Woman: Change With the Light when Spider-Woman's Arch-Enemy Jack O'Lantern is revealed as Steven Mark Levins. Instead of irrationally denying it, Jack's relatives instead react with horror and dismay when they hear the news, along with the pure shock that they're related to a psychopathic mass murderer. | |
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Inverted again in The Flash: the New 52 version of Wally West refuses to believe that his uncle Daniel was a criminal, let alone the supervillain Reverse-Flash. He's gotten over it in the current comics, though he remains hopeful that his uncle can still straighten himself out. | |
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This is sort of subverted in the second episode of Below Board, where the main character has a phone conversation with the mother of a jewelry store robber, who is fully aware that her son is a criminal, just not that he'd let his foreman manipulate him into pulling off a large heist and get himself killed in the process. | |
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In You Don't Own Me, Robert and Cynthia are adamant that their late son Martin was innocent of any wrongdoing, with Cynthia being especially vocal in defending him. They insist they settled the lawsuits against Martin for medical malpractice not because they thought he was guilty, but because they didn't want it getting dragged into the public eye and overshadowing his murder. They deny Kendra's claims of Martin emotionally abusing her and having an affair, insisting Martin was a devoted family man and that Kendra's accusations were "paranoid ravings" and "delusions". It helped that Martin was charming and manipulative, so he had no trouble getting his parents - who already worshipped him - to believe his side. As it comes out that Martin definitely was having an affair given his lover killed him for refusing to end it, his parents will have to face the truth that their son was a deeply flawed man; given they've started being nicer to Kendra, it's implied they at least have more sympathy for her now. | |
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In In Cold Blood, the famous true crime novel, Richard "Dick" Hickock's parents refused for years to believe that their son was a murderer. They admitted that he was a troublemaker and that he'd been to prison, but they couldn't accept that their son had taken part in the murder of the Clutter family. In truth, going there was his idea. Averted with Perry Smith, whose sister (and only surviving family member) not only believed that he'd been involved in the murder but refused to see him. When questioned by authorities, she insisted that he was a dangerous man and that she feared for the safety of her family should he learn where she lived. | |
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In the Harry Potter series, Dudley Dursley's mother Petunia refuses to believe her son bullies smaller children. Meanwhile, poor Harry gets punished for even the slightest offense by his Muggle Foster Parents until he is whisked away to a new life at Hogwarts. | |
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Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean: When Jotaro's daughter Jolyne was 14, she was arrested for stealing a car. In flashback, her mother / Jotaro's wife can be heard pleading with the police, "This has to be a mistake! My Jolyne would never...!" | |
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Judge Dee: In "The Morning of the Monkey", Judge Dee gets a confession of murder from a pharmacist 'who fiercely denies that his son is mentally disabled, despite this being quite obvious), who confesses to the wrong murder method. He breaks it to the pharmacist that with his father in jail, the son will be left utterly alone in the world. This causes the father to break down and admit his son was the murderer due to suffering the delusion that the victim was stealing his girlfriend, and the judge promises the son will be treated as humanely as possible. | |
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In Supergirl (2015), Lillian Luthor thinks this of her son Lex, to the point where she has convinced herself that Superman, a "false god from an alien planet," is the real villain. | |
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Averted in Kung Fu Panda 2. At the start of the film, it's shown that Lord Shen, after overhearing a prophesy that a panda would defeat him in battle, had his soldiers destroy a nearby village of pandas with the intention of wiping them all out. Thankfully, the end of the movie shows that many pandas escaped and started a new village. When he returned home and his parents heard what he'd done, they were horrified and banished him from the kingdom (even though this act clearly broke their hearts). | |
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Inverted in Gotham Academy: Olive Silverlock's animosity towards Batman and his ilk stems from her refusal to believe her mother, Sybil, better known as the supervillain Calamity, could be capable of the heinous acts she was incarcerated in Arkham for. Olive ultimately turns out to be partially right, as it turns out Sybil (along with previous generations of their family) was being possessed by the spirit of her ancestor, Amity Arkham, the entire time. | |
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A Cruel God Reigns: Jeremy reads in his mother's diary that she knew he was being abused by his step-father all along, but chose to ignore it along with claiming that Jeremy wouldn't be in a sexual relationship with Greg. Leads to Jeremy's Go Mad from the Revelation and is Driven to Bungled Suicide, spawning many Break the Cutie moments. | |
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On the really illogical side of the trope, a mother in Not Always Legal insists that her son's court case must be civil, despite him being accused of kidnapping and assault because there's no way her boy could be a criminal. | |
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In The Hoodlum, Mrs. Lubeck is the only one who does not believe her son Vincent is an irredeemable hoodlum. It is her impassioned plea to the parole board that gets him released. At the end of the film, when she realises that he has committed murder and is headed for the electric chair, it breaks her heart and she dies. | |
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In The Middle, the Glossner boys are the terror of the neighborhood. Whenever someone confronts their mom (who is no saint, either) about their delinquency, she always responds with "Them's good boys!" | |
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Is It My Fault That I Got Bullied?: Nagumo’s mother is an anti-bully advocate, proclaims she'd never forgive bullying, and firmly believes her daughter is an innocent and kind girl who’d never torment her best friend Shiori. Little does she know, her daughter is a ruthless Alpha Bitch leading her Gang of Bullies to torment Shiori and tricks her mom into believing she’s being framed, and her mom is so invested in her daughter’s lies that refuses to view evidence of all the videos of her daughter gleefully bullying Shiori. She’s convinced that Nagumo’s homeroom teacher, Aizawa, is the one that forced the bullying and tries to convince Shiori that her daughter is not the one to hate and should open her eyes to the truth. She goes as low as to ask Shiori to attend a press conference to convince everyone that her daughter is a “victim� like her. Shiori calls her out on this and asks her point blank if she saw any of the videos, stating that it’s her that should be opening her eyes to the truth. At the press conference, Aizawa reveals that Nagumo is the one who took the video of stripping Shiori, and calls out her mother for not accepting the glaring facts that she enjoyed being a bully; Yumi makes it perfectly clear with admitting their joy in the bullying. After witnessing her daughter’s Villainous Breakdown, Nagumo’s mother pleads to a journalist not to publish the story just to save face, only to be rejected. As a result of the heavy public scrutiny surrounding Nagumo’s evil deeds, her mother is turned down by a lot of universities since they refuse to hire the mother of a well documented bully give lectures on anti-bullying. Nagumo’s mother guilt catches up with her and shames her daughter for turning out the way she did. | |
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The 2009 Korean film Mother is about a mother's attempt to exonerate her son, who has been convicted of murdering a teenage girl based on shoddy evidence. It turns out he actually did kill her. | |
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Turning Red: While the criminal activity on Meilin Lee's part is limited to sneaking into a concert without payment and arguably roughing up a classmate, her mother Ming's reaction to the idea that her Mei-Mei could possibly do anything that contradicts the image of a dutiful and studious "Sweet, innocent child" (i.e. perving on the clerk at a local convenience store or exploiting her newfound shape-shifting for profit) unless manipulated or forced by others is heavily informed by this trope. | |
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The Practice: Skip's mother assumes Lucy is a slut who seduced him and inspired his wire fraud to pay for an engagement ring, without any evidence, since she apparently can't fathom that her son was capable of this otherwise. | |
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In at least some of her appearances, the mother of Robin villain Ulysses "The General" Armstrong is in complete denial that her son is a murderous psychopath. This is especially notable given how Ulysses' father and siblings recognize his depravity and are terrified of him. | |
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Zig-zagged in one episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent, where a lawyer's son appears to be responsible for a robbery in which one of his friends was killed. At first, he defends his son until his son flat-out admits that he let his friend die after he was injured and then shrugs off the severity of the action because "he was going to die anyway". At that point, the lawyer coldly tells Logan and Wheeler to "read my son his rights". | |
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The Shield included an episode where the characters arrest a teenage vandal. Her mother arrives at the police station and harangues the officers about what a perfect angel her child is until they open the door and the child is in the process of vandalising their interview room. | |
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Day Break (2006): During one of the repeating days, Detective Hopper visits his mother's home to further the investigation by digging up information on his dead father. When she chastises him for not visiting her more often he explains that he's too busy at the moment since he's wanted for murder in Los Angeles, although he didn't actually do it. Her response? "Well of course — I didn't raise a murderer!" | |
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In Wiseguy, Vinnie's mother thinks he is a criminal when he's actually working undercover for the Organized Crime Bureau. She eventually finds out the truth... but then worries that he's gradually becoming more and more like the criminals around him. | |
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Dead Ringers: One of the things taught in "Penelope Wilton's Guide to Parent Banter" is "What not to say at Parents Night" meetings, with the example of what not to do being a very violent version of this. | |
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JadEd: After the Kanker Sisters get killed in self-defense by Ed, their mother refuses to believe that they did anything wrong, insisting that they were sweet girls who never would've hurt anybody. | |
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Lucky Star: Discussed in one episode. Konata remarks that whenever neighbors are questioned about criminals, they always say "He was such a nice boy. He didn't seem the type who could do that," to which Kagami responds with the subversion; if Konata ever committed a crime, Kagami would definitely say "I always knew deep down she'd do something like this". | |
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In the police briefing near the beginning of Red Dragon, on a specific (bitey) habit of the killer they're gathered to catch, Agent Graham mentions how parents will lie about how a child was bitten and keep up the lie to cover for a "snapper" in the family — you've all seen that". | |
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Kara of Rokyn: At the beginning, Lex Luthor's parents refused to believe their smart little boy was an unrepentant murderer, and they believed Lex when he declared Superboy had framed him out of jealousy; but then Lex went after the Boy of Steel again, and they couldn't deny the facts anymore. | |
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Throughout The Seven Misfortunes of Lady Fortune, Madame Zhou insists Xiao Lu is as benign a guy as they get in the Triad, and is not the type to be behind the plot. Turns out he is behind it, and is also her son. | |
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The Legend of Anne Bonny: Calico Jack Rackham's mother is present at her son's trial, but after he's hanged for piracy, she shows up at the trial of his lover Anne Bonny and Mary Read. She accuses Anne of ruining her son whom she refuses to believe wasn't a proud sea captain loyal to England. Anne only notes that maybe all mothers are blind to their sons' flaws. | |
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Let Me Call You Sweetheart: Deidre insists that her son Skip was wrongly accused and convicted of his wife's murder. Eleven years, five failed appeals, and she's still insisting upon his innocence. Turns out she's completely right. | |
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Death Note: Light Yagami uses the title notebook to murder criminals, earning himself the name "Kira". His father, Police Chief Soichiro Yagami, gets put in charge of the investigation to find Kira and bring him to justice. His own son quickly becomes the prime suspect, causing much angst.note Not helping matters is that while he tested Light multiple times, he did so under the assumption that Kira was primarily a Knight Templar who wanted all criminals and criminal sympathizers to die, and not a spiteful megalomaniac. Light's sociopathic god-complex allowed him to outsmart all these tests but was quickly defeated by Near's test of pride. Even more so in the film, where he survives to see irrefutable proof of Light being Kira: his gloating over L's death, followed by an attempt to kill Soichiro himself. |
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders: Subverted when a sobbing Holly Kujo tells a pair of cops that her son Jotaro Kujo cannot be a delinquent. The policemen say Jotaro actually is innocent and they want to let him go— he's just refusing to leave the cell out of fear of the 'evil spirit' haunting him (it's actually his recently discovered Stand, which he didn't know about before and had no conscious control over yet). They called her in hope that she could convince him to leave. | |
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In Magical Pony Lyrical Twilight A's, King Sombra's mother not only refused to believe that her son could have become the villain he was but actively engaged in counter-Malicious Slander. | |
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Referenced and inverted in Rush Hour, in which Carter rants about how the LAPD are the most hated cops in the free world: so much so, his mother tells people he's a drug dealer instead. | |
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In the Star Trek episode "The Ultimate Computer", The "M-5" is a living computer that commits murder, but Dr. Richard Daystrom, its creator, defends the events as "accidents." Dr. McCoy says that "even when a child kills, a parent will usually continue to defend that child." | |
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Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Denial: During a Moment of Weakness, Teruteru contemplates killing somebody in hopes of escaping Monokuma's Deadly Game. What stops him is thinking about how horrified his mother would be if she ever found out about his crime. | |
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A Song of Ice and Fire zig-zags this with Cersei Lannister and her son Joffrey. In spite of his being a sadistic little shit, Cersei always takes Joffrey's side on everything, acting as if he's blameless. As time goes on, however, Cersei acknowledges the cognitive dissonance it takes her to love him unconditionally. | |
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In Frozen Hearts (Sakume), a Frozen (2013) fanfic, the mother of Prince Hans is unwilling to believe that her youngest son could have plotted to kill Elsa and Anna to usurp the throne of Arendelle, reacting with rhetorical disbelief. Although Hans' father is aware of what he did in Arendelle, he has difficulty with the idea of punishing his child. Lampshaded here by his father. | |
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We Need to Talk About Kevin is told entirely from the perspective of the mother of a school shooter. Naturally, she struggles with her conscience - did she raise him to be a criminal? | |
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The Marvellous Land of Snergs: Joe and Sylvia tend to get into mischief together. Sylvia's caretaker Miss Scadging swears that Sylvia is a little angel and Joe is a terrible influence, whereas Joe's caretaker Miss Gurbblestone argues that Joe is a good guy who is always goaded by Sylvia. The reality is that Joe is a mischief-maker, and Sylvia does encourage his antics. | |
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In the Chick Tracts tract "Fairy Tales," Harry Garner's parents are unwilling to believe that their son could have done all the horrible things that he did, on the day that he is to be executed for the terrible crimes that earned him the nickname "The Monster." The entire tract is a How We Got Here experience that puts the lie to their assertions, by showing how he became a monster... after learning that Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy aren't real. | |
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Professor Trunchbull in Selkie falls into this with his son, and had successfully sued his former school when he'd gotten suspended for his behavior. It took video footage of him threatening to beat up a teacher for Trunchbull to see the truth. | |
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders: Subverted when a sobbing Holly Kujo tells a pair of cops that her son Jotaro Kujo cannot be a delinquent. The policemen say Jotaro actually is innocent and they want to let him go— he's just refusing to leave the cell out of fear of the 'evil spirit' haunting him (it's actually his recently discovered Stand, which he didn't know about before and had no conscious control over yet). They called her in hope that she could convince him to leave. Jo Jos Bizarre Adventure Stone Ocean: When Jotaro's daughter Jolyne was 14, she was arrested for stealing a car. In flashback, her mother / Jotaro's wife can be heard pleading with the police, "This has to be a mistake! My Jolyne would never...!" |
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Game of Thrones: The roles are reversed, but Daenerys finds it difficult to accept the actions of her father, almost to the point of denial. Only after having a heart-to-heart with Ser Barristan is she able to see the deceased madman for what he was. | |
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In Bitter Virgin, after Hinako finds out she was pregnant via the pain of a miscarriage, her mother immediately asks who the father was. When she says it was her stepfather, her mother slaps her and accuses her of telling horrible lies (Hinako earlier mentions that her stepfather was the first man she saw her mother happy with). After Hinako ends up pregnant a second time and again names her stepfather, this time with a doctor using bruises on her to suggest that she was raped, the mother believes her and chases the stepfather out with a knife. | |
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Deathdream: After her son Andy unexpectedly comes back from his fatal tour in Vietnam, Christine refuses to believe that anything is wrong with him, despite all the mounting evidence. Eventually, she realizes that he's become a vampire, but decides to help him due to Undying Loyalty. | |
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In Double Switch, Eddie's mother knows that her son is insane. However, she is strongly in denial over it and even acts as his accomplice at one point. | |
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Dick Tracy has frequently addressed the problems that go with being the innocent relative of a criminal. One of the most notable examples is Junior's first girlfriend Model Jones, who was overwhelmingly ashamed of her crook brother and alcoholic parents. In the end, she was accidentally shot and killed by her own brother during a fight with the cops. | |
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Ghoulishly subverted on an episode of CSI when a murder suspect mistakenly thinks that his son is dead. When the victim's body is found bricked up in his house, he nonchalantly attempts to pin the entire crime on his son... unaware that the son is alive and well and watching the interrogation through a one-way mirror. This leads to an I Have No Father moment from the son. | |
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Criminal Minds: The show dealt with this in season three: Tt turns out that the perpetrator of the Galen murders was a mentally impaired man who didn't really understand what he was doing. When his father found out, he covered it up on the grounds that his son wasn't a bad person, and he made the killer send the victims' kids stuffed animals every year on the anniversary of the murders so that his son wouldn't forget that he's capable of terrible things and would be careful never to let it happen again. In a season one episode, Gideon deconstructs this trope with a father who continually makes excuses for his serial killer son. Also appears in another episode of season one where a mother easily accepts that her son's murders aren't her fault. It was her fault, but it wasn't her son's murders. She was the killer. Subverted in Season 2 Episode 17, "Distress". Morgan and Gideon are at a crime scene. A mother marches her teenage son up to the police and tells the officers and agents “I didn’t raise my son to be a vandal.� She had been taking him to the police station but saw the police investigating the vandalism. She makes the boy own up to his part in the vandalism and promise never to vandalize his own neighborhood again. Then she asks how much damage was done. The officer tells the Mom that they are there about a murder, not vandalism. The Mom and son are both clearly scared to learn the security guard was killed. The boy swears the guard chased them and they fled scared. Gideon asks a couple of questions to find out what had happened before the murder and sends the Mother and son on their way because it was impossible for a boy that size to have killed the security guard in the manner he was killed. |
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Averted in .45, where even Big Al's mother has written him off, saying he has been nothing but trouble his entire life. She complains that he can't even get being a criminal right: saying that if you're a jailbird you should at least go to jail for robbing a bank or a gas station — something you can be proud of — rather than the penny-ante crimes he gets locked up for. | |
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2666: Lotte for Klaus. She knows he committed a few minor crimes when he was younger, but knows he’s no murderer. | |
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In Saki: After Story, Teru goes into a rage and beats up her younger sister Saki, resulting in Saki being sent to the hospital and Teru being arrested. The sister's separated parents are shocked, both by what happened to Saki and that Teru would be capable of doing such a thing. | |
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Mafia II has Maria Scaletta, who tries to steer her son away from Joe's influence and get him a nice job with Derek Pappalardo... unaware that Derek's a member of the Vinci Crime Family. She doesn't take Vito being sentenced to ten years in prison well. | |
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Accidental Successor: Mineta's mother rejects all evidence that her son is a shameless pervert. Even when presented with clear proof of his crimes, she's so firmly in denial that she's willing to drag the matter into court. After meeting her, Principal Nedzu theorizes that this is precisely why Mineta believed he could do whatever he wanted without facing consequences. | |
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In The Batman, the Cluemaster lives in his mother's basement, and she seems completely oblivious to his criminal — and horribly sadistic — plans of revenge. In fact, she seems to have lost touch with reality over the years, seeing nothing odd in the least when Batman — in full costume — comes in to ask about him, regarding him as just another visitor. In the same series, the villians Wrath and Scorn are this trope inverted: they're the sons of criminal thieves, though they believe that they stole out of desperation rather than greed. This mentality leads them to think that all of Gotham's rogues are merely desperate people who can't make a living any other way, and that Batman is the bad guy for locking them up. This is their downfall, however, as villains like the Joker commit crimes because they embrace their roles as villains, which leads to them getting Jokerized. |
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Spoofed in Drawn Together, when Foxxy finds that her teenage grandson Ray-Ray is robbing the house, and responds with "I did not not raise your papa to not raise you to be no criminal!" | |
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Madeline Westen in Burn Notice is adamant about this, especially when the FBI interrogate her about Michael's murder of Tom Card | |
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An episode of The Fugitive has Kimble reuniting with his family. His father and sister are handling his situation well, but his brother is bitter over his difficulties holding a job once his bosses find out he's the brother of a supposed fugitive murderer. | |
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Walker's Crossing: Lon and Doris Walker have difficulty accepting that their eldest son is a member of a gun-toting Neo-Nazi group, with Doris (who is fairly racist herself) trying to rationalize Gil's behavior and beliefs while Lon does his best to ignore the signs. | |
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