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Misery Poker
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Every now and then, life sucks. Sometimes getting out of bed in the morning can seem a feat of Herculean strength, and dragging yourself into school or work is all but impossible. Often, the one thing that can sustain us as we limp into the office/classroom after a relationship break up, family row or disastrous guinea pig incident is the reassurance that our friends will lend an ear to sympathize in our hour of need... Er, we hope. As long as someone else isn't entitled to more angst than we. In many stories — and often in real life too — there's only so much sympathy to go around. So if you arrive to your workplace bemoaning the frankly humiliating first meeting with your in-laws, or the parking ticket you got as a result of an over-talkative cashier and a downright malevolent traffic warden, better take a note of the gripes of your co-workers before you launch into that pent-up tirade. Chances are that if someone has an angst that "trumps" yours, your worries — no matter how valid — become instantly trivial. And the rest of the episode will probably be devoted to you "getting over" yourself in order to be there for your pal. Even you yourself will eventually give a monologue on the importance of not dwelling on your worries because there are people worse off than yourself, and you should count your blessings. There is a certain validity to this way of thinking; it's usually better to be positive after all, and seeing the difficulties others are facing can be helpful in putting your own problems into perspective. However, human nature being what it is, we're allowed to feel sad or grumpy from time to time without being criminalized for it. Occasionally, a show or book will acknowledge this and subvert this trope, revealing that the character who was being told off for being such a drama queen by friends with "bigger issues" is actually in pretty serious trouble. On the other extreme, this can be used for comedy... such as, for example, a character loudly complaining about their bad manicure as if it's the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever while someone else in the background is being chased by enraged rhinos. In such cases, it's clear that the viewer is supposed to see their worries as trivial, and usually we will — unless Fridge Logic kicks in. Sometimes this is a pretty logical trope — a parking ticket isn't nice, but a bereavement is on a totally different level of grief altogether. At other times, though, the viewer might note that the character with the "lesser" gripe has every right to be downhearted — for example, a character whose illness is serious, but not as serious as someone else's — and may accuse the supporting cast of having No Sympathy when they fail to acknowledge this. Falsely setting up problems in competition seems to imply that only the biggest problem can be dealt with, whatever the feasibility issues or nature of the lesser one. At its worst, a character who consistently has severe problems but is always one-upped by different people who once or a few times have a worse problem, leaving their problems totally ignored, could suddenly explode in rage over time from being subjected to this far too often. Even an Iron Butt Monkey has their limits. And, of course, even a minor problem can be made easier to cope with or slightly more tolerable if you know that the people around you have some sympathy; the character who got the parking ticket might not be demanding that everyone drop what they're doing and focus on them to the exclusion of the character dying from cancer (although they might be, of course), they might just be looking for a few kind words, which doesn't seem entirely unreasonable. May show up on internet debates, especially as Flame War fuel. If this happens on your message board, it might be a good idea not to post until it's all over — your will to live will be drained one way or another, either in sympathy or in despair at so much angsting. If it gets out of hand, you may need to lock the thread. Also sometimes known as Misery Dicks (i.e. "my misery dick is bigger than yours") and Woe-Offs — as well as Oppression Olympics, when it occurs in debates concerning social justice issues. Compare When I Was Your Age..., First World Problems, and Angst Dissonance. Contrast If You Thought That Was Bad.... See also Appeal to Worse Problems. Sister Trope to Outhumbling Each Other. |
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Chapter 2 of The Black Emperor has Kallen tell Lelouch, Milly and C.C. about how her family life took a turn for the worse (her parents were forced to split up, her father remarried to a complete shrew and left, her mother suffers abuse while working as a maid) after Britiannia conquered Japan. Then Lelouch says he wished he had it that easy, which initally angers Kallen... until he tells her what he had to go through (narrowly avoiding getting killed by OSI operatives, having to carry his blind and crippled younger sister around for weeks, coming dangerously close to starving to death before he's finally found) and she agrees he had it worse by the time he's done recounting. | |
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Played with in the Law & Order: Special Victims Unit episode "True Believers". The episode ends with Benson and Bayard Ellis chiding each other over their methods. While on the surface they are talking about the case, the subtext is about whether its harder to be black or a woman. | |
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Fun Jungle: In Bear Bottom, Teddy and his new friend Evan get into a lighthearted version of this. | |
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Dragon Age: This is an occasional problem with companions from oppressed groups. They'll still follow you in whatever you choose unless it's something they're deeply against (which usually involves a horrible Kick the Dog moment that'd give anyone pause), but in conversations they tend to play up their own group's suffering over others. For Anders, it's mages (who are stuck in Circles and bullied by the Templars), for Fenris it's slaves (he's an escaped Teventir slave), for several elf companions it's elves (subjects of heavy Fantastic Racism), and for Sera it's the common folk. | |
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In Notting Hill there's a scene where the main characters intentionally engage in a game of misery poker with a concrete reward: the last brownie. The movie star character almost wins, using "the higher you are, the deeper you fall" argument (Hugh Grant's character actually wins). | |
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My Teacher Is an Alien: Referenced and then defied in book 4 (My Teacher Flunked the Planet): When Peter hears Susan say "Boy, I miss my family" (as they're traveling with aliens and can't see their families, and she can only have occasional phone calls with them) he thinks "At least you have family to miss" (due to him thinking that his father couldn't care less about his disappearance) but keeps silent because he doesn't want to get in a game of "Who's the most miserable". | |
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Ultimate FF: The heroes had one in the pocket universe where Rick Jones was trapped with the Gah Lak Tus swarm. | |
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From House: House, who suffers from chronic pain, argues with a patient who can't feel pain about who has it worse. | |
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In The Bible: The Complete Word of God (abridged), the Angel of the Lord announces an auction in which God's favors will be awarded to the one who suffers the most. The winner, of course, is some modern-day experience so mind-numbingly awful that it beats the fiery furnace. | |
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The Simpsons: When Apu and Manjula unexpectedly have octuplets, there's a massive outpouring of gifts from the public to help them handle the economic burden of such a large family ... until a news story breaks about another couple in the area having nine babies, at which point all the gifts are taken back and given to that couple, with Apu and Manjula criticized for complaining about this turn of events. | |
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The Miraculous Ladybug fic Powers of Invisibility: It has an inversion (mostly) when Adrien finds out about Juleka's appallingly neglectful parents, who spend most of the year out of the country doing archaeology work leaving her alone in an apartment in Paris, at the age of 15, and have been doing this for some time. Played straight in a later chapter, during the aforementioned "schmooze party". It comes shortly after Juleka's parents have come home and stated that they want to take Juleka back to China with them next year, though less out of any apparent love for her than thinking that she'll finally be of use to their work. Juleka refuses, storms out of the party and runs into her cousin Chloe. |
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In "Agony" from Into the Woods, Prince Charming and Rapunzel's prince argue in song over whose agony is worse when it comes to their troubles with their maidens. | |
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In The New Guy, there's a very brief one when Dizzy arrives in prison. | |
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Star Trek: Picard: In "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2", Rios and Seven of Nine engage in a brief game of this while sharing a drink after Picard's death. Seven declares herself the winner without Rios objecting. | |
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In one Naruto fan comic, Sasuke complains about losing his parents, prompting Lee to bring up the time he was almost permanently crippled and forced into retirement, Neji to bring up his low status in his clan and Gaara to bring up his social isolation and multiple attempts on his life. Sasuke, Lee and Neji conclude Gaara is worst off. | |
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Iris in Roseanne used this with customers at the salon, responding to their problems with non sequiturs such as "I watched my village burn to the ground." When asked, she stated that it was her way of saying "Shut up or I'll turn your hair into a bonsai tree". | |
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"It Sucks To Be Me" from Avenue Q as well as serving as an introduction to most of the cast also has them trying to outdo each other regarding whose life sucks the most. In the end they all agree Gary Coleman outsucks them all. | |
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In Volume 6 of RWBY, Emerald and Mercury discuss why they have allied with Cinder and, by extension, Salem. Emerald is Disappointed by the Motive when Mercury claims it "just felt right" to sign up with Cinder before revealing that she sees Cinder as the only family she'd ever had growing up as a Street Urchin. Mercury callously tells Emerald that Cinder doesn't care about Emerald or anyone other than herself. After Emerald attacks Mercury for the claim, Mercury reveals his own Dark and Troubled Past with his father Marcus. | |
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In Blue Milk Special, Luke laments how he's lost everything... his family, his home, his speeder, and now his dear old mentor. Leia points out that she's lost an entire planet. Surprisingly, this works. | |
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Weird school rules in Hong Kong: The Episode 17 skits tend to involve this. One of the skits features a boy who really needs to go to the bathroom being handed two forms by a patrolling teacher and that he had to fill them out before going in (the boy didn't even have a pen to fill them out with). The forms in question asked him why he had to go to the bathroom, for how long he would have to go, and when he would return to the classroom. Then, a girl walks out of the bathrooms and tells him that the girls' forms were a lot worse, asking them if they were pooping or peeing or if they were menstruating, and if it's the latter, what day they were on and how much they were bleeding, as well as whether they brought their own pads. Another skit features a girl complaining about how her school required the students' parents to check their children's WhatsApp every day to see if they ever went out with their classmates. A boy from another school then said that he had it worse as his school forced all the students to immediately go home after school was over and that anyone who didn't would be caught by the teachers, and this included staying at school after classes to study.note The episode was released in June 2019, before the COVID-19 Pandemic. Fat Tom then complained that he had it worse than both of them even though he didn't have to endure what they had to endure… because he went to a Boarding School with regulations so strict he thought it was worse than being imprisoned. |
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Parodied in Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal #2314, where a chain of "Stop being unhappy! There are people who have it worse than you!" goes through everybody in the world until it reaches the least fortunate man on Earth; who has no arms, one eye, one tooth, a metal pipe impaling him through the head, a small patch of his beard missing, a unibrow, is standing in a barrel of nuclear waste, surrounded by several large bags of more nuclear waste, and is on fire. | |
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The Dragon Age: Inquisition fic All This Sh*t is Twice as Weird indulges in a playful version of this before the Halamshiral ball. Mahanon has to go explore the castle and face down a would-be assassin, plus who knows how many Venatori and other assorted deadly foes... but Victoria has to smile and make pleasant conversation with Orlesians. | |
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Happens often in For Better or for Worse, especially to April - every time she griped about a not-so-good situation, someone would happen by who was in far worse shape. | |
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In Cross Ange, both Ange and Hilda had this moment on who had the worse reunion between Ange with her sister, and Hilda with her mother. Ange was whipped, publicly humiliated, had eggs thrown at her and was nearly hanged at the gallows while Hilda was beaten up by fifty guards though she does claim that she did beat them up. In the end for the both of them, it was a tie. | |
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It's an odd way of bonding, but Mercy and Cirr of Ice masochistically compete over who's hurt Sarah more. | |
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JD of Scrubs is the poster child of this trope. The catalogue of disasters that befall him are listed under No Sympathy. In the same episode, Dr. Cox objects to being asked for help in dragging J.D. out of his misery, and when Turk, Carla and Elliot point out that J.D. rescued him from severe depression, he justifies himself with "I accidentally killed three patients...he passes out when he poops!" A rather better-handled example also came up in the episode that introduced Michael J. Fox's character Dr. Casey - sure, Dr. Cox may not be the best doctor, Turk may never be the best surgeon, and JD may need a bit more mentoring than most people, but Dr. Casey has severe OCD, and he deals with it gracefully - most of the time. Dr. Cox and one of his patients had a game where they would complain about their fathers and argue over which one was worse. Cox said the other guy always won since his father was still alive. In one episode, when the other couples complain about the problems they're having, JD snaps at them and says they should feel lucky and that he envies them, since they are arguing for petty reasons while he is angsting about being single and lonely. Played for Laughs when J.D. is shot down by Molly because he's "too normal", invoking this to prove that he's her type. Played for laughs when J.D.'s dad dies and Turk is diagnosed with diabetes in the same episode. Being friends, they're able to casually joke about the timing and stealing each others' "thunder". Another light hearted example is when Turk and Elliot argue over being a woman or being black in medicine is harder. They both take a second to give kudos to a black woman doctor. In the episode "My Saving Grace", Katie unloads a Freudian Excuse on Carla to justify her attitude, explaining her dad died, her mother was an alcoholic and she's always had to do everything for herself. Carla's response: |
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Dilbert: This early strip. In the book Build a Better Life by Stealing Office Supplies, Dogbert advises office drones that, if you run late, make sure your excuse trumps the one before you; otherwise, you're the weak link and ripe for discipline. This also tends to be Topper's standard MO: wait til someone complains and then top their complaint. With the twist that he'll also do this with anything positive they say. |
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A large part of The Breakfast Club consists of the five students declaring what's shitty about their lives, particularly their relationships with their parents. | |
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The entire point of MADtv (1995)'s Depressed Persian Tow Truck Man. It's even lampshaded in the opening jingle. | |
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Final Fantasy XIV has the Warrior of Light and a few of their allies try to talk a captured Fordola into making a Heel–Face Turn. When they arrive, the Echo shows them visions of her Dark and Troubled Past. Fordola notices this and tries to them out, claiming that a few visions wouldn't let them understand her pain, only for her artificial Echo to trigger and show them everything the Warrior of Light has been through. By the end of it, she questioning just how they're even able to keep going in spite of all the loss and betrayal they've suffered from. | |
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One of The Daily Show's essential pieces is the "Bootstrap Story" segment mocking the candidates' milking of their humble origins at the 2004 Democratic National Convention (the one at which Barack Obama upped the stakes forever by relating that his father was once a goatherd). Stephen Colbert, in turn, tells Jon how hard his father worked mining turds in the Appalachians and how grateful he was not to have to lick goats' balls like his father used to back in the old country. | |
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The Big Bang Theory Penny expresses disbelief that Leonard, Howard, and Raj haven't gone fishing with their fathers before. Leonard and Raj both express misery that their fathers were always busy with their scientific jobs, and then Howard mentions that his "father-son bonding" time was spent waiting for his dad to come home. Leonard even says, "Okay, Howard wins." And that's not the only time Howard has pulled the "My dad left" card to trump someone else's complaints. This also happens regarding their mothers between Leonard (emotionally detached, literally treated him as a science experiment) and Howard (mortifying, overbearing, and loud). Sheldon tries to play, but everyone else thinks that his mother is the tough, no-nonsense reality check that Sheldon needs. Amy recruited Leonard to be her date for a co-workers wedding after Sheldon refused, and she took care of the various arrangements. When getting ready she got a corsage for Leonard to give to her, while Penny says that a corsage is more for high school proms than as a wedding guest. Amy replied that due to her Friendless Background she didn't go to her high school prom, her mom hired her cousin to take her and he then bailed and spent the money on drugs. Penny, tearing up, tells Leonard to give her the corsage. |
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"The Campfire Song" from Percy Jackson and the Olympians is all about the various half-blood kids comparing how comically terrible their godly parents are. They unanimously agree that Chiron wins after he mentions that his father is Kronos, arguably best known for eating his kids. | |
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Toward the end of The Man Who Was Thursday, Syme tries to instigate this with God (or at any rate, the novel's Christ-figure). He loses, badly. This is right on the heels of Gregory actually starting the game in a much longer speech about how much he has suffered while those who keep order, those who rule haven't felt a single bit of pain. Sykes immediately counters him hard; the whole exchange can be found at the end of this page. |
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In Knight Hunters, after Tomoe Sakura has one of her kidneys stolen by a Mad Scientist and becomes the subject of a great deal of prying media attention, she laments what's happened to her and that the surgery has left her unable to run track like she could before. Aya, whose little sister and only living family has been in a coma for two years and shows no signs of ever waking, delivers a verbal slap to Sakura in which he roughly points out to her that at least she's still alive and conscious and capable of moving under her own power. | |
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Forms a rather large (but unspoken) part of the Cancer Support Group experience in The Fault in Our Stars. People with more serious cancers tend to get more respect automatically, and people with "lesser" forms of cancer (like appendicidal cancer) are somewhat looked down upon. | |
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My Name Is Earl has this exchange. | |
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In All Fall Down, the Pantheon get together for a game and this is the result. Phylum wins. | |
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Wolfenstein: The New Order: BJ Blazkowicz and Caroline get into an argument over whose war injuries are worse. Unlike many other examples on this page, the entire thing is done as completely good-natured ribbing between old war buddies, the two of them catching up after many years. | |
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Avengers: Infinity War: Thor had it rough: his brother Loki just died, after his secret evil sister Hela tried to kill them and slashed his eye, after his father Odin died, and after his mother Frigga died killed by an elf, after Loki tried to kill him and usurped their father's throne. Quill, unhappy to see Thor bond with Gamora over their Dark and Troubled Past, steps in, and also tells how he had it rough too since his mother Meredith died because his father Ego killed her and he had to kill him; but he got away with both his eyes at least. | |
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Ultra Fast Pony: In "The Longest Episode" all of the main cast are having a bad night at the Gala. As everyone sums up their problems, Applejack chimes in: "No, seriously, screw their minor problems! Why isn't anyone buying from me? This is my livelihood we're talking about!" | |
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Shortpacked!: When Robin's sister Roz first appears, she and Leslie play "Who's Got The Worst Daddy", which Roz admits is all about one-upmanship (Roz's dad was a womanizer, while Leslie's disowned her for being gay). Robin, not feeling well-disposed towards her sister, suggests she play that with Amber - whose father was emotionally and physically abusive. Roz is smart enough to ask Ethan for details first. There's a general understanding that Amber's dad is about as awful as it gets (Robin later measures her own father's dismalness in ADUs - Amber's Dad Units). |
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The Phantom of the Opera (MazM) has the Phantom doing this to Christine; one scene in particular has him repeatedly one-upping her while she tries to explain what hardships she's had in her life by sharing more details about his own awful upbringing. Parents died? at least they loved her; impoverished for most of her childhood? at least she later got taken in by kind people, etc. until he finally gets angry at her for even trying to compare their hardships. These are non-comedic examples meant to highlight how little the Phantom thinks about other people's suffering. | |
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Davan from Something*Positive trumps Kestrel from Queen of Wands at a game during one of their crossovers when they compare their jobs. | |
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The "Four Yorkshiremen" sketch from At Last the 1948 Show, popularized by Monty Python. The Four Yorkshiremen reminisce about their childhoods, each man describing his as more terrible than the man before - and promptly amending their previous tale of woe when it was their turn to speak again. | |
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Avatar: The Last Airbender: Zuko and the rest of the Fire Nation team have a little back and forth about whose childhood sucked the most while they're on Ember Island. Zuko again while he's teamed up with Sokka. Zuko tells him about his girlfriend problems and Sokka replies that his first girlfriend turned into the moon. Zuko's response to that is the immortal line, "That's rough, buddy". |
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The Seinfeld episode "The Andrea Doria." George finds a great apartment for himself, but the owners decide to rent it to an old man who survived the sinking of the SS Andrea Doria instead, because of his sad past. George realizes that if it's misery they want, he's got more of it than anyone else, so he entertains the panel with a recap of all the banally depressing or humiliating things that have happened to him since the show began, from being Chained to a Bed and robbed to having a woman see his penis post-cold-water-shrinkage. In the end, despite clearly winning the game of misery poker, he loses the apartment to someone else who simply bribed the owners with cash to get it. |
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A meme going around Tumblr takes a form similar to the Diesel Sweeties comic above, but much more extended; starting with Batman's dead parents, going through Superman's dead planet, and making a final stop at Homestuck's TWO dead universes. | |
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In 42, Pee Wee Reese asks to be excused from an upcoming baseball game after he receives a threatening letter for associating with Jackie Robinson. In response, Mr. Rickey opens a filing cabinet and produces three bulging folders full of death threats Robinson received. | |
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Touya and Calvina get into this in Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers at their first meeting. Calvina had the facility she was employed with destroyed, with all of the friends she made and students she taught dying in the process and, worse, she discovers that one of her students and her boyfriend are still alive, only to find that both of them are members of the FURY, with the former going Ax-Crazy, and the latter being believed to be the one responsible for the attack on the earlier mentioned facilitynote He was in Judgment, but not in this game, he only showed up after the attack. Meanwhile, after years of living in isolation due to his mother's death and father's absence, Touya finally meets his dad again, only to see him just getting out of a sticky situation piloting the Granteed and trying to protect two girls, learn that he's a high ranking soldier of the FURY, reluctantly join him to survive the ongoing attacks of the FURY, and then see him die right in front of his eyes, leaving Touya only his father's legacy as a Knight of the FURY to try to carry on. They don't do that in the future meetings, it's mostly for different issues, and in the end, they're on good terms thanks to both sides having Character Development. | |
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Will & Grace often engage in this, debating over which of them has it harder: a gay man or a Jewish woman. | |
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Done in an episode of Monk after the title character gets hit in the eyes by acid and goes blind. | |
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Friendly Hostility: Collin trumped Nadine's record of "time not spoken to parents," but was beaten by Leslie Rudd in the "who had the most negligent/abusive" parents stakes. In the last few months of the comic, some Fox vs. Collin Misery Poker went on, particularly amongst the fandom, with Fox's past injuries to Collin being weighed against Collin's increasingly passive-aggressive, taciturn behaviour. | |
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During the Animorphs book "The Sickness", everyone except Cassie is temporarily benched due to an alien disease. In the last chapter, they engage in some one-upping over who had it worse. | |
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Fraggle Rock: In "Gobo's Discovery", Gobo, after a bad scare in Outer Space, considers giving up exploring and becoming a juggler. It doesn't help when he gives Boober and Wembley the wrong directions to the Squeaky Cavern, accidentally sending them to the Great Outer Maze (home of the dreaded Invisible Garboil), and goes there to rescue them... only to get lost in it himself, narrowly make it out, and find out they hadn't entered the Maze in the first place. More sure than ever that he doesn't want to be an explorer, he sulks in his room, but Red tells him, "Oh, come off it, Gobo. You're not the only one with problems, you know." Gobo responds by angrily singing "The Me I Wanna Be". | |
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In the One Piece one-shot fanfic Who Had It Worse?, Robin and Law decide to engage in this trope during a rare get-together of their crews. They're mostly doing it for laughs but the rest of both crews are horrified by what the pair are lying out. | |
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The Penguin in Batman Returns gets by mocking everyone else for their issues, obviously considering them trivial compared to his own, like telling Catwoman. | |
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"I Think I Got You Beat" from Shrek: The Musical has Shrek and Fiona doing this. They even sing in unison about how bad their lives have been. | |
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In Gravitation, Shuichi is constantly chided for his whining - even when his woes involve his boyfriend vanishing without a word, Shuichi getting kicked out of their shared home every time Yuki has a temper tantrum, and Tohma's various unpleasant schemes to "protect" Yuki at Shuichi's expense. Everyone, down to best friend Hiro, points out how much tougher Yuki's life has been, and Shuichi himself trivializes all of his angst, even the fact that he was gang raped. | |
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Sayonara, Zetsubou-Sensei takes this across the line several times, as is its habit. Nami tried to elicit sympathy from her classmates by coming in with a bandaged arm - then Abiru came in with bandages around half her head, her arm in a sling, and her leg in a cast. Then Nami tried to complain about being so poor she had to live in a small apartment and share a room with her parents - then in came Maria, an illegal immigrant who lives with 20 others in a single room, carrying a big bag of garbage and waxing lyrical about Japan's incredible bounty and how much better it was than her home country, where people knowingly eat poisonous mushrooms because there's nothing else. Then Nami tries to get attention by threatening to jump out a window -at which point Nozomu flies down from the roof in a noose and crashes into the wall (he gets better). | |
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Six: The Musical opens with the six wives of Henry VIII arguing over who had the worst time being married to him. Katherine Howard gets a scene where she makes a really compelling argument that it was her, snarking that compared to her fate of being executed at the age of fifteen (not to mention the lifetime of abuse she endured before that), the other wives' problems of almost being sent to a nunnery, or being divorced, or dying of natural causes are pretty lame by comparison. While the women all agree in the end that it doesn't really matter, and that they should stop letting Henry define their stories, pretty much the entire fanbase agrees Katherine wins. | |
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Selkie's school secretary tried (sort of) to comfort Selkie after her shirt was stolen. | |
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The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power: In the pilot, Elrond tries to convince Galadriel to give up her quest that turned her into a Knight Templar, and sail to Valinor to heal her spirit. He reasons that is only natural to feel conflicted after all she endured for centuries, to which Galadriel responds to something like this: | |
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This trope was a big part of choosing the winner on Queen for a Day; the contestant would get on the TV (originally radio) show and talk about how miserable their life was. | |
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The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel II has Rean and Crow engage in one except they're playing a misery poker for the other person, with the two claiming that the other person's Dark and Troubled Past is sadder than their own. When Crow finally tells Rean his reasons for shooting the chancellor at the end of the previous game, Rean actually almost looks like he's about to cry while Crow brushes it off as him being a footnote in history and claims that Rean's mysterious past is sadder than his. | |
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Saturday Night Live in the 1980s had a recurring skit about two buddies (Billy Crystal and Christopher Guest) topping each other in claiming to have suffered absurd, painful injuries, many of which were self-inflicted. | |
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Earth's Children: This briefly comes up in The Plains of Passage; when Ayla tells Madenia she understands how she feels because she herself was raped, Madenia stubbornly points out that Ayla was "only" raped by one man, as opposed to multiple men. Ayla gently counters that her rapist openly and repeatedly preyed on her for weeks and no one stopped him, which makes Madenia realize Ayla probably does know better than most how she feels. | |
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In El Goonish Shive, Ellen and Elliot bicker about whose day will be more awkward: hers (due to having to tell Susan about her apparent half-sister) or his (due to dealing with rumors about him being the superheroine Cheerleadra). They finally conclude he wins because he shares some of her awkwardness. | |
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Strong Female Protagonist: This shows itself as an early hurdle for a support group for dynamorphics (people who, in the world's Mass Empowering Event, had their body structure mutated and transformed). One woman in the group confesses about her employer using her so he could seem progressive, but another in the group gets angry and demands to hear about "real problems", since the first woman looks mostly normal aside from her green skin while the latter has grown massive scales and thus can't afford fitting clothing or be easily employed. | |
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Jumanji: Alan and Sarah get into this when they're reunited and have to finish the game they started in 1969 before Alan got sucked into the game. | |
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One of the main problems Sandry has in the Circle of Magic series is getting people to see her as a person, not a noble - the assumption being that her status makes her immune to the woes of the common people. Even her adopted siblings initially regard her with an attitude of "what do you know about suffering? You're rich!" Her upbeat and friendly attitude only serves to aggravate this. However, when she reveals that her parents died in a smallpox epidemic, then she was trapped in a hidden room in pitch darkness while an angry mob killed her last remaining caretaker, people tend to be more sympathetic. (It's a hell of a way to make friends, but it works.) Her friends start giving her this attitude again in Will of the Empress because they've all been traumatized by their travels (not knowing this, she felt abandoned because her uncle had a heart attack and she had to basically become his co-regent) and now Sandry is being singled out by the Empress of Namorn, so they dismiss her concerns over a broken friendship and noble life (as Sandry prefers to be casual). They ease up, to a degree, after she suffers multiple kidnapping attempts and reveals that she had some rather gory experiences just staying in Emelan while they were dealing with murderers abroad. | |
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A pair of Akril's King's Quest comic strips feature misery poker. In the first, Cassima and Rosella are comparing "battle scars;" but Rosella conceded when Cassima starts talking clean-up detail. In the second, Alexander and Edgar are comparing notes. Taken from their families at infancy? Check. Almost caused the destruction of their homelands? Check. Went to the underworld and came back? Check. | |
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In An Extremely Goofy Movie, Max is behaving eagerly because he gets to leave home and get away from his father who loves him but is annoying. PJ, who generally does not engage in this although he usually has the right to, lets Max know that his father is callously tossing him aside for his own selfish agenda. | |
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Highlights for Children ran a story about a young servant being kidnapped by a dragon (who had mistaken her for a princess). Both of them groan about what bad days they're having, leading to the girl challenging him to a "misery contest" to win her freedom. After the dragon stumps her, she declares that she can't even win a misery contest and is therefore the more miserable person between the two of them. The dragon can't figure out the Mind Screw of that statement, so he agrees to take her back. | |
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The George Lopez Show: In "George to the Third Power", George argues with Max's dentist over whose childhood was worse. | |
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The Batman (2022): The Riddler is completely unsympathetic to Bruce Wayne's Dark and Troubled Past, because while Bruce still had a huge home, billions of dollars, and a butler, and his parents' murders making front page news, the Riddler, as a child, had to live in a crowded, dilapidated Orphanage of Fear, completely forgotten by the world. | |
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ER had Dr. Mark Greene get in a good one on his last day of work, when a nasty old lady from the pilot returned: | |
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In one episode of Jeremy Hardy Speaks to the Nation, he says that sometimes he worries that comforting the bereaved can come across like this: if your mother is suffering dementia and you tell someone whose mother died suddenly "At least she was with you right up to the end", you're kind of saying their situation isn't as bad as yours. | |
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Wade and Vanessa play this in Deadpool (2016), inventing (we hope!) ever more outrageously abusive childhoods and traumatic experiences to trump the other's. Gets given a Call-Back at the end when they reunite after Wade's hideous transformation and Trauma Conga Line. | |
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Played with in Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. Kimmy doesn't like to talk about the fact that she was kidnapped as a teenager and imprisoned in a bunker for fifteen years. In one episode, she has a confrontation with a woman who's effectively an indentured servant in a nail salon. The woman challenges Kimmy by referring to all the challenges she's been through. Kimmy has to visibly restrain herself from invoking her own past. | |
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Batgirls Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown (then Spoiler) compare sucky childhoods: | |
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Played for drama in Astro City. Rose Wilkerson, a woman who lost her young son (and her right hand) in a supervillian attack, has joined "Miranda's Friends", a support group for survivors of super-conflicts. However, when the group's organizer reveals that his wife was erased from history in a Close-Enough Timeline accident, she becomes enraged, insisting that he's a fraud and her trauma is far worse. | |
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In the third book of the Inheritance Cycle, Eragon and Roran compare bruises, complete with buckets of incestuous Ho Yay, mocking each other's for not looking painful enough. Eragon appears to win by removing his trousers to show Roran the massive groinal bruising from bareback dragon-riding, but Roran is able to top that by revealing that an Elite Mook more-or-less tore off his arm. This is a rather rare example of this trope being straight up useful as Eragon is suitably horrified by the injury and proceeds to heal it. This is particularly useful since they're going into battle against said mook in a few hours. | |
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Defied in AJR's "World's Smallest Violin". The singer is seeing a therapist, but feels unworthy simply by going and complaining about his problems because his grandfather and father had it worse than him and seemingly never complained (the former was a World War 2 veteran and the latter is a firefighter). However, he argues with himself about it, saying that "smaller" problems (such as his homesickness when at college) are just as valid, and he needs to let his fears and anxieties out or he fears that he'll explode emotionally. If he's playing the Smallest Violin, then by God he's going to play the hell out of it for his own peace of mind. | |
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In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "As You Were", Riley finds Buffy working at a Burger Fool and promises to swap stories if they get a chance and see whose were more exciting/dangerous/crazy etc. | |
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The official rules for picking out who starts a game of Gloom is to have a game of Misery Poker covering the current day. Makes for amusing contrivances if played the first thing in the morning, and for the bizarre situation where your pals might hold "grudges" against you for having such a miserable life. | |
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In Elfen Lied, Yuka constantly angsts and treats Kouta badly because Kouta is rejecting her sexual advances and forgot a promise - that he made to her ten years ago, in extremely promise-inducing circumstances, barely half an hour before he saw his father and sister brutally ripped to shreds by someone he saw as his closest friend. This in a house that has taken in girls that have, in no particular order: lost her arms, legs and was abandoned by her family and foster father figure; got beaten so hard by her own father that she became incontinent and has to wear diapers just because she wanted to become a singer like her mother, who committed suicide when she was a child; sexually abused by her stepfather and is a runaway; and Lucy, who is just really messed up. | |
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Star Trek: Voyager: In "Scientific Method", Chakotay and Neelix get afflicted with a condition that screws with their DNA in different ways—Chakotay starts hyper-aging while Neelix starts turning into another humanoid species (Mylean, which his great-grandfather was). While in Sickbay, they start a lighthearted game of misery poker, with Chakotay in the lead before more patients come in. | |
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Very nicely averted in Fantastic Four. After a particularly brutal encounter with Dr. Doom, Reed is left with a painful burn scar covering half his face. After a short while living with it, and acting increasingly irrationally, Ben calls him out on his behavior. During the speech, he tells him that he's noticed that even though he's clearly bothered by it, Reed hasn't complained about the scar once since getting it, at least not in front of Ben. While he has it much worse, as a giant rock-monster, Ben was quick to acknowledge his friend was suffering. | |
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How I Met Your Mother: When Robin complains about the jealous behavior that comes with being in a relationship with Ted, Lily, who had recently broken up with Marshall at the time despite still being in love with him, says being single is worse. | |
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Legion: In "Chapter 27", Gabrielle is still recovering emotionally after numerous Time Eaters attempted to murder her infant son David, and she even questions her sanity, but her husband Charles Xavier asserts that he had witnessed and endured far more craziness than she did. After hearing his recollection of events, Gabrielle doesn't argue. | |
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In Fantastic Four (2005), The Thing is sitting next to a suicidal person and tells him, "You think you've got problems? Take a good look, pal." | |
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Played for laughs in an episode of Frasier where Frasier gets punched in the face by a man who is later murdered. Subsequently, every time he does something that others view as a What the Hell, Hero? moment, he tries to wriggle out of it by gravely pointing out that he is still suffering the psychological after-effects of "being punched in the face by a man now dead". Incredibly, despite the other characters having far more significant problems going on in the same episode, it works every time. | |
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Friends has this exchange (for context, Chandler's worrying about his commitment issues). The fifth season Thanksgiving Episode sees the gang attempting to come up with memories that can finally outdo Chandler's story of his parents announcing their divorce during a Thanksgiving dinner. Rachel does eventually come up with one, but since it involves Monica accidentally cutting off one of Chandler's toes he still has the most reasons to hate the holiday. |
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In Blade Runner 2049, it's shown with the racism toward Replicants we see with the underclass and K. While K is treated like garbage by his colleagues, he's still a police officer and one of the employed who can afford to purchase virtual girlfriends and live in a decent-looking apartment. This is in direct contrast to the people living outside his apartment in the halls and in the junkyard's enormous sweatshop, who are left to die by society. It should be noted the super-destitute still hate Replicants and find this as reason to hate them more. | |
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Defied in Born of the Same Impulse, when Tony starts venting to Stephen about how the Avengers are disrupting his privacy, and that their concerned attempts to get him out of his shell are hindering him from work. Stephen, at this point, is verging on depression due to having to relive his hand injuries, but—unlike Tony—doesn't have the luxury of either friends or work to distract him from his troubles. In his monologue after this interaction, Stephen expresses bitterness over Tony's apparent whining, but he humours the latter during his rant. | |
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