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In Show A, you watch TV. In show B, the TV watches YOU. This is a special kind of crossover trope in which the characters from Show A will enter the universe of Show B—both shows of which are "real" to us. In other words, neither is a Show Within a Show. In addition to finding out that they're trapped in the universe of Show B, the characters of Show A discover that they themselves are the subject of a Show A in the universe of Show B. The characters from Show A are, in essence, simultaneously Trapped in TV Land and a Refugee from TV Land. This isn't Real-World Episode, since both universes are depicted as being equally "real". A situation in which Show A is fictional in Show B and Show B is fictional in Show A isn't an example of this trope if they never share a continuity; if in A's continuity B is just fiction and vice versa. This could happen with two completely unrelated works that each incorporate real world elements that happen to include the other work. This is a relatively common trope used in Crossover Fan Fic. Strictly speaking, this kind of crossover should never logically be allowed to exist. At the very least, the particular episode of each series or work which references the other should be assumed to not exist within the other's universe. Otherwise, you would have a situation wherein it would be distinctly possible for the main characters to see the TV show of their entire reality within said reality, realize their entire existence was a lie, and freak out. And we wouldn't want that, now would we? One possible justification would be if the two worlds are simply Alternate Universes and the "shows" in question are based on visions people have from the other world. In this case, expect the characters trying to establish what in this show is correct and what is not. It could also be the case that the creators of Show B, within the universe of Show A, simply decided to set Show B in a world where the main characters of Show A don't exist, but acknowledge their impact by making them fictional instead- though this explanation breaks down if the world at large, and particularly the media, shouldn't know about the events of Show A in the first place. Unfortunately, the Fiction Identity Postulate proves that all fiction is equally unreal. And anyone living in an Alternate Universe may be, by definition, fictional. This is where Recursive Canon meets Recursive Reality. May create an accidental Intercontinuity Crossover. See also Celebrity Paradox. Comic Books Are Real is a one-sided version, usually dealing with a Show Within a Show instead of another real-life series. Compare Faeries Don't Believe in Humans, Either, where each side believes the other is only stories prior to meeting, but both have always been fact and that's what the stories are based on. Contrast Stable Time Loop, which leads to a similar Ontological Paradox. |
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Sherlock does this in "The Abominable Bride", which is set up as an Alternate Universe featuring the modern-day Sherlock characters in the Victorian setting of the original Sherlock Holmes novels, before revealing the whole thing is taking place in modern-day Sherlock's head as he tries to figure out how Moriarty could still be alive. But the end cuts back to Victorian Sherlock and John, and Sherlock speculates on what their lives would be like in a hypothetical future... his descriptions, of course, matching the modern-day adaptation exactly. | |
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Dr. Temperance Brennan gets a honorable cameo appearance in Fforde's Thursday Next series, which runs on recursive fictionality. | |
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In Watchmen, DC Comics existed in their timeline but the complications caused by real costumed vigilantes have led to superhero comics falling out of popularity. Superheroes that are cultural icons in our world have long since fallen into obscurity by the events of the story, which is why nobody notices the similarities between Nite Owl and Batman or between Rorschach and The Question. However in the DC universe, Watchmen is a comic as well which the Question at one point reads and tries to emulate (which doesn't go well for him). This is lampshaded in the Intra-Franchise Crossover Doomsday Clock when Ozymandias and Rorschach end up in the DC Universe and while seeking more information Ozymandias points out that several of the existing heroes are fictional in their universe, leading them to theorize Dr. Manhattan was somehow responsible. |
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Mexican shows El ChapulÃn Colorado and El Chavo del ocho recursively reference each other at different points, and they eventually got a crossover where the El Chavo characters believe ChapulÃn is only a fictional superhero and are surprised he really exists, there's also jokes about how Chavo and ChapulÃn are played by the same actor. | |
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Batman (1966) and The Green Hornet present a particularly snarly version of this trope: An episode of The Green Hornet establishes that Batman is a (presumably fictional) television show in his continuity. Likewise, in the Batman episode "The Impractical Joker," Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, and Alfred are watching a news program about how Batman and Robin were made helpless by a new Joker device earlier in the day. In disgust, Bruce asks Dick to change the channel, noting that The Green Hornet is about to come on. We don't get to see any of that, as Joker breaks into the TV channel's signal to gloat and taunt Batman over the airwaves. Yet, The Green Hornet and Kato appear as a "Batclimb Cameo" - a regular occurrence where Batman and Robin are climbing a building and a celebrity or TV character appears to ask what they're up to. (Often this was used to plug other shows on ABC - including The Addams Family, Hogan's Heroes, and "The Felony Squad.") In that interaction, the Dynamic Duo greets the Green Hornet and Kato as fellow heroes from another city. After that cameo, the Green Hornet and Kato appear as "special guest heroes" in the Batman two-parter "A Piece of the Action/Batman's Satisfaction." This time, the Green Hornet and Kato are treated as villains - because that's what their public persona was in their own show - gangsters looking to get "a piece of the action" and end up taking down criminal enterprises from within. |
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Yet, The Green Hornet and Kato appear as a "Batclimb Cameo" - a regular occurrence where Batman and Robin are climbing a building and a celebrity or TV character appears to ask what they're up to. (Often this was used to plug other shows on ABC - including The Addams Family, Hogan's Heroes, and "The Felony Squad.") In that interaction, the Dynamic Duo greets the Green Hornet and Kato as fellow heroes from another city. | |
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In the first A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984), The Evil Dead (1981) is seen on a TV, a Shout-Out to a poster for Wes Craven's earlier film The Hills Have Eyes (1977) appearing in The Evil Dead (which was itself a Shout-Out to a poster for Jaws appearing in The Hills Have Eyes). Then in Evil Dead 2, Freddy Krueger's glove is seen in the shed where Ash creates his chainsaw-hand. Averted in the comics, where there was an Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny between Freddy, Ash, and Jason. | |
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Sort-of real life example - the series Bones is inspired by the work of author Kathy Reichs. In the series, the heroine is an author who writes novels about a character named Kathy Reichs. The novel character seems very close to the author in personality, though the events of each plot, per Reichs' afterwords, are only based on the broadest strokes of real-life cases. The television character is almost completely different from the novel character. It's really just the names. Dr. Temperance Brennan gets a honorable cameo appearance in Fforde's Thursday Next series, which runs on recursive fictionality. |
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Dr. House watches Gossip Girl and Blair Waldorf watches House. Leighton Meester, the actress who plays Blair, also guest-starred on an episode of House as a teenager in love with the titular character. In the 2011 movie The Oranges Hugh Laurie plays a man who falls in love with a friend's daughter... played by Meester. | |
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It happens in crossover Echoes of Yesterday. In Earth-Bet, both DC Comics and Marvel Comics exist. Taylor Hebert used to believe their heroes were merely fictional characters who fell out of fashion several decades before her time, until she is rescued by one. When she expresses bewilderment at the fact that she's been saved by a comic-book character, Kara replies the Multiverse is infinite and Taylor life's history is guaranteed to be a fictional tale in other parallel realities, including her own universe. | |
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An episode of The Simpsons has a guest appearance by Richard Dean Anderson playing himself, where his work in Stargate SG-1 is referenced. However in Stargate, Rick's character, Jack O'Neill has openly talked about his love of The Simpsons many times, including comparing Mr Burns to the Goa'uld. The icing on the cake is when Dan Castallaneta, the voice of Homer, make a guest appearance on Stargate... and agrees with Jack's "Burns = Goa'uld" theory. | |
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And, to take things even further, the art style and some of the universe mechanics for Midnight Crew suggest that it also takes place in the same universe as the previous MS Paint Adventures comic, Problem Sleuth (which itself was in the same universe as Jailbreak and Bard Quest), and John has video games of all three of these. There are probably even more tie-ins than that. Like the time Jade read a panel of Homestuck, even being pretty true to what John had been doing at that point. |
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: In an episode, some I.T. department employees discuss the show Mr. Robot, where the Marvel movies are fictional. FitzSimmons are huge Doctor Who fans, referencing it on multiple occasions. Going by the 2016 Christmas special of Doctor Who, Marvel Comics are entirely fictional in the Whoniverse. |
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Pre-Crisis at least, Earth-Two was fictional to Earth-One, which is why the writers had to create the multiverse so that Barry Allen could have a crossover with Jay Garrick. In Barry's first appearance, he mentioned how Jay was his favorite comic book hero, but lamented how the Flash was merely a fictional character. In a later story, Barry travelled to Earth-D where he was a fictional character and the local version of the Flash, Tanaka Rei, grew up idolizing Barry Allen and reading Barry's adventures in comics just as Barry had grown up reading Jay's comics. | |
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My Hero Playthrough: Canon!Izuku and Bakugou appear as Bosses in a Reflective Dungeon. An Omake in the same chapter has canon!Izuku experiencing the fight as a dream, commenting on the oddness of seeing Momo wearing "biker's leathers and a helmet", and fighting Sailor Mercury and a girl wielding electromagnetic powers that Shoto (of all people) identifies as Mikoto Misaka from the RailDex series. | |
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Doodle Champion Island Games: The secret ending reveals that Champion Island Games and Halloween Magic Cat Academy are fictional Google Doodles in each others' verses. Things get weird when the protagonists meet. | |
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In Community Abed's favorite TV show is Cougar Town and in one episode he talks about guest starring on it. In one episode of Cougar Town Laurie and Travis watch the first season of Community on DVD. This eventually came full circle with Laurie and Travis as bit characters in the season finale of Community and Abed as a bit character on the season finale of Cougar Town. A later episode of Community had Abed, Meta Guy that he is, explaining the Mind Screw the whole thing had been for him. | |
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In the Harry Potter and Fate/stay night crossover Fan Fic "Fictional", Harry is a servant created by Caster from the book series. A big part of the plot is Harry coming to terms that all of his hardships were fictional and how to deal with it after the obligatory freak out. And you know, deal with being a slave (*cough* Servant). He also has to hide his scar, because other people freak out when they meet Harry Potter too. | |
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The subsequent novels The Cat Who Walks Through Walls and To Sail Beyond the Sunset run with the concept to its logical conclusion, in which the characters wage running pandimensional battles against groups of agents from other realities, all competing to see which can rewrite history to their whims. | |
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House of Leaves: Used recursivelynote and basically like a "trope" rather than "trivia": According to the story of the novel, Will Navidson is fictional. (Even though he's also the protagonist of the main narrative. It's complicated to say the least.) At the very end of the story, he starts reading House of Leaves.This is far weirder than it sounds, because even with all The Fourth Wall Will Not Protect You Mind Screw with a convoluted Framing Device, certain rules have been established, and this breaks all of them. For one thing, even though the manuscript detailing Navidson's experiences becomes frighteningly real, all rational evidence has so far indicated it to be a fake, whereas this detail is basically impossible and apparently magical all things considered. For another, even thought he "manuscript" is full of notes highlighting all its oddities and inconsistencies as well as overanalysing everything, nobody comments anything about this book House of Leaves — not Navidson, who should see it's his own story, not Zampà no with his obsessive analysis and background on everything, not Johnny Truant who apparently gave his unfinished edit of the manuscript the name House of Leaves before he even got to this part and who's been going nuts because of the way it has intruded into his life. After all that commentary that contained the story even though it didn't keep it from seeming far too real, you're suddenly hit with this impossibility that nobody acknowledges, and which no commentary could contain if it tried. | |
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Excel♡Saga featured a kid who drew forged key frames from the Show Within a Show Puni Puni☆Poemi. The show was Defictionalized, and in Puni Puni Poemi, a math problem in school involves the number of cels used in each episode of Excel Saga. | |
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There was a crossover between Power Rangers and the live-action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series. It's particularly amusing when one of the turtles laughs off a mention of the rangers as comic book characters. | |
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In Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, the duo stumbles upon the filming of a Scream movie. The first movie in the series had a poster for Clerks, a movie in the same continuity as Jay and Silent Bob, and Jay and Silent Bob themselves make a cameo in Scream 3 where they try to hit on Gale after mistaking her for Connie Chung. That said, within the Scream series, the Stab movies serve as their in-universe analogue to themselves, so the popular fan explanation is that Jay and Silent Bob wandered onto the set of Stab 4 instead. (Doesn't explain the Clerks poster, though.) | |
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In the episode "The Grasshopper Experiment" of The Big Bang Theory, Howard says that Raj's parents, who are doctors, probably love Scrubs, because it's a medical-themed TV show. In the episode "Our Driving Issues" of Scrubs, Dr. Cox says that he needs to watch The Big Bang Theory so that he can figure out why it's so popular. | |
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Strangely enough, on an episode of The Cleveland Show where they go to Comic-Con, a giant statue of Stewie as Darth Vader appears in the background. | |
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Homestuck takes this trope to its Mind-Screw extreme with the events of the main story and the Midnight Crew. In the world of the main characters of Homestuck the Midnight Crew are from the latest MS Paint Adventures series, and the reverse is true for the actual members of the Midnight Crew in their world. However, the Midnight Crew exist in the same universe as the trolls - a universe where a significant part of the main story of Homestuck happens. In other words, it's not a Show Within a Show, it's a Show Within Itself! And, to take things even further, the art style and some of the universe mechanics for Midnight Crew suggest that it also takes place in the same universe as the previous MS Paint Adventures comic, Problem Sleuth (which itself was in the same universe as Jailbreak and Bard Quest), and John has video games of all three of these. There are probably even more tie-ins than that. Like the time Jade read a panel of Homestuck, even being pretty true to what John had been doing at that point. |
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An episode of The Twilight Zone (1959) entitled "A World of His Own" somehow managed to do this to itself. The story deals with a writer named Gregory West who can cause fictional characters to appear in real life if he dictates descriptions of them into his tape recorder, and cause them to disappear again by burning the tape he described them on. At the end of the episode, as is traditional Rod Serling appears to give the story's closing narration. | |
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In Die Hard 2, at one point an episode of The Simpsons is being shown on TV. In a second-season episode of The Simpsons the following year, the family is shown watching the original Die Hard. | |
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A Nightmare on Elm Street: In the first A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984), The Evil Dead (1981) is seen on a TV, a Shout-Out to a poster for Wes Craven's earlier film The Hills Have Eyes (1977) appearing in The Evil Dead (which was itself a Shout-Out to a poster for Jaws appearing in The Hills Have Eyes). Then in Evil Dead 2, Freddy Krueger's glove is seen in the shed where Ash creates his chainsaw-hand. Averted in the comics, where there was an Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny between Freddy, Ash, and Jason. In A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, the TV-obsessed patient is seen watching an early scene from the movie Critters. Later, Critters 2: The Main Course had one of its alien doppelgangers attempt to imitate a cardboard Freddy Krueger standee at a video store. |
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This happens to Superman a lot; it used to be that DC/Marvel crossovers operated under the conceit that the characters, if they didn't know of each other, at least operated in the same reality for the duration of the crossover (Spider-Man/Batman, for example), but after DC vs. Marvel/Marvel vs. DC, they were explicitly separate realities. It is true that the Fantastic Four knew of Superman from the events of that crossover in Superman/Fantastic Four, it was also established that Ben Grimm and Franklin Richards knew of Superman from the exploits of his comic book counterpart, and watch Superman: The Animated Series. Incidentally, Marvel vs. DC played with a retcon of Spider-Man/Batman when the Joker recognized Spider-Man from somewhere. Of course, since S/B was set before the Spider-clone saga and DC vs. Marvel was set during it, Ben Reilly didn't recognize the Joker from Peter Parker's adventure. | |
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The plot line in Red Dwarf where the Dwarf crew realise they are fictional characters, and the only way for Dave Lister to escape the situation and re-assert independent reality involves going onto the set of a soap opera called Coronation Street, where an actor called Craig Charles plays a genial taxi-driver who is something of a laid-back, somewhat scruffy, Scouse slacker... it all gets eye-wateringly recursive after a while. | |
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Hector and the other Cadillac Cats even appear in a cameo in one Inspector Gadget episode. | |
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In an episode of Wynonna Earp, Nicole Haught mentions wanting to see Waverly in Sara Lance cosplay. Legends of Tomorrow returned the favor, when after Sara is captured by the creator of the Ava clones, he mentions "15 seasons of Wynonna Earp" to occupy her while she takes her time deciding what to do next. | |
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An episode of American Dad! ended with Peter and Cleveland appearing, but another one had Steve and Roger watch a Family Guy DVD. There's also an episode of Family Guy where Stan and his CIA boss showed up to try and stop Stewie. It gets particularly weird in the American Dad episode "The People vs. Martin Sugar", where Stan explicitly notes Brian as a fictitious character - only for Brian to then appear next to him, ask "do I know you?", then walk off as Stan shouts at him to "stop pretending I don't exist!". This is parodied in the Family Guy episode "Excellence in Broadcasting", when Stan is shown watching the episode and is proud of Brian for becoming a conservative. Strangely enough, on an episode of The Cleveland Show where they go to Comic-Con, a giant statue of Stewie as Darth Vader appears in the background. |
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Eek! The Cat did an X-Files parody, and was also shown in an X-Files episode "Eve" where one of the little murderous clones watched the animation. | |
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In an episode, some I.T. department employees discuss the show Mr. Robot, where the Marvel movies are fictional. | |
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In The X-Files, a character is seen watching an episode of The Simpsons. Fortunately, it's not the episode where David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson appeared as Mulder and Scully. In Comic Book Guy's shop, one can see a poster to the X-Files movie. | |
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Marvel Cinematic Universe: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: In an episode, some I.T. department employees discuss the show Mr. Robot, where the Marvel movies are fictional. FitzSimmons are huge Doctor Who fans, referencing it on multiple occasions. Going by the 2016 Christmas special of Doctor Who, Marvel Comics are entirely fictional in the Whoniverse. |
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In The Hero of Three Faces, it's all a show, and it's all real. That is, every fictional setting sees all the other settings as fictional, but some characters, most notably the Doctor, can travel between them. | |
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In Overwatch, D.Va's backstory is that she's a professional StarCraft player indicating that Starcraft is fictional in the world of Overwatch. Meanwhile, Heroes of the Storm is a crossover of all of Blizzard's franchises including Overwatch and Starcraft with all of the different franchises belonging to different universes in a shared Multiverse. | |
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A four issue miniseries had Mr. Mxyzptlk and The Do-Do collide in interdimensional transit and conspire to cause mischief by mixing up their worlds. Superheroes recognize the Looney Tunes from their cartoons, and Foghorn recognizes Clark Kent as Superman because he's "had a subscription to Action Comics since [he] was an egg." The whole crossover ends with Clark reading a Looney Tunes comic at the Daily Planet, where Perry White has just found the singing frog - all of which is seen by Bugs Bunny, who's reading a DC comic. | |
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In Stargate SG-1, Jack O'Neill makes several references to The Simpsons, Richard Dean Anderson himself, being a huge fan. In season eight, Dan Castellaneta makes a guest appearance (even agreeing with Jack that Mr Burns is the perfect analogy for the Goa'uld). Just to make it more confusing, Anderson once appeared as himself in an episode of The Simpsons and, oh yes, they mention his work in Stargate SG-1. | |
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The Goosebumps series had a recursive fiction paradox. For example, a couple of the main books and a lot of the Choose Your Own Adventure books mention the main character having read about something like their situation in a Goosebumps book. In a good deal of the Give Yourself Goosebumps books, you need to know about the book being referenced to get a good ending! | |
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In The Flash (2014), Cisco has worn a rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock t-shirt, based on The Big Bang Theory, while Sheldon Cooper on The Big Bang Theory has worn Flash t-shirts and costumes. | |
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References to characters watching Passions started showing up during season four of Buffy. Shortly afterward, Passions characters started watching Buffy. Also, characters in Buffy have talked about Xena: Warrior Princess, whereas, while they clearly can't have a television show on Xena, there is a play called 'Buffus the Bacchae Slayer'. Of course, as Xena is both told by a literary agent and fictional within itself, it's anyone's guess as to what is actually going on. | |
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Star Trek is frequently mentioned in modern Doctor Who as where most people's ideas of aliens and space travel come from. Doctor Who is mentioned less often in Star Trek, but the Diane Duane novel My Enemy, My Ally has a holodeck recreation of a Fourth Doctor story. In IDW's comic book crossover Assimilation, the Eleventh Doctor, Amy and Rory don't seem to recognise the Enterprise-D crew, or vice versa. | |
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The Office sometimes makes references to various Muppet productions. One episode of The Muppets (2015) features Ed Helms as himself, and he mentions his role on The Office. | |
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Paragons of Virtue and Glory: The heroes notice that many of the Remnant people they've met are similar to fictional characters from their world, while fictional characters from Remnant media like comic books are also real people from the MHA world. | |
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In a few episodes the inspector can be seen watching Heathcliff & the Catillac Cats, likewise Inspector Gadget has showed up as a TV Show on Heatcliff. Both shows were produced by DiC at around the same time. | |
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In the first episode of Class (2016), spin off of Doctor Who, April compares their school to the Hellmouth of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. In Buffy, Andrew mentions having watched every episode of Doctor Who. | |
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When Rachel auditions at FOX studios in Glee there is a New Girl poster hanging in the office. Shivran on New Girl make's fun of Nick's new track suit by calling him "Jane Lynch" a reference to her character on Glee, Sue Sylvester, who always wears a track suit. | |
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From Through the Looking-Glass: | |
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Early crossovers between Superman and Shazam! had Shazam as a popular comic book on Earth-One and Superman as a comic on Shazam's homeworks, Earth-S. | |
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Static, an Ascended Fanboy, lampshades this; he drops his knowledge of Post-Crisis Superboy's history, and explains "I read all your comic books! Don't you read all of my comic books? (Do I have comic books?)" | |
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The Goofy short How to Be a Detective features Goofy reading a Mickey Mouse comic book. You know, his best friend? Then again, most of these kinds of cartoon shorts are anthological and self-contained. | |
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The Multiversity canonizes the idea that all comic book universes exist as entertainment in someone else's universe. Throughout the series, we actually see random characters reading other comics, most of which are other issues in the series. Or, in the words of Captain Carrot, as the Superman of Earth-23 reads a copy◊ of Action Comics v2 #9: | |
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In Superman & Lois, Clark mentions watching Seinfeld reruns. Famously, Jerry Seinfeld is a big fan of Superman and worked Superman references into every episode of Seinfeld. | |
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In Independence Day a character makes a passing reference to The X-Files. Conversely, in the X-Files feature film The X-Files: Fight the Future, we see Mulder urinating in front of an Independence Day movie poster as a Take That!. | |
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In the opening scene of Scream (1996), the film Halloween (1978) is the subject of one of the questions the killer asks, and Halloween is later shown at a party (with one character loudly protesting at the mistakes Laurie Strode is making). Likewise, in the Halloween sequel Halloween H20: Twenty Years Later, a couple of characters are watching Scream 2 in one scene. | |
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In Origin Story, Xander used to read Marvel Comics and in the Marvel Universe, Buffy the Vampire Slayer was a fairly popular show though it only got two seasons and had a different cast (All of whom are a Mythology Gag from original casting ideas). | |
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A really subtle one with Questionable Content and xkcd. Marigold wears an xkcd shirt here, and this xkcd comic shows one of Hannelore's Twitter posts. | |
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Leverage and Psych are both mentioned as TV shows in each other's universes, but unfortunately, that leads to a What Could Have Been, because if Psych hadn't made Leverage fictional in their universe, Word of God says that Leverage's Eliot would've had an uncle named Henry. | |
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This trope is discussed, within the context of a single work, in the My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom! fanfic Clashing Lives of a Villainess. The premise of My Next Life as a Villainess involves a Japanese teenage girl who died and reincarnated in the universe of Fortune Lover, a Romance Game she played shortly before she died, as Katarina Claes, the games main villainess. In Clashing Lives, Katarina and Maria, Fortune Lover's original Player Character, get transported into the universe Katarina once lived. When Maria notices a copy of Fortune Lover and its uncanny similarity to the universe she always lives in, Katarina's brother in her past life suggests the two universes are equally real and mutually fictional. This is collaborated by Maria who noticed a fantasy novel in her dimension happens to be a historically accurate account of Napoléon Bonaparte in the other dimension... | |
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In Danny Phantom, Danny can be see playing a Crash Nebula arcade game. In the Crash Nebula Poorly Disguised Pilot episode of The Fairly OddParents!, Crash has a Danny Phantom comic book. | |
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In Mad About You, there is an episode where Paul visits an old apartment of his. That apartment happens to be across the hall from Jerry Seinfeld's and he runs into and has a rather poignant conversation with current tenant Kramer. But in a later episode of Seinfeld, George is forced to suffer watching an episode of Mad About You with his fiancee Susan. | |
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Tiny Toon Adventures has had a few episodes referencing Batman, most notably the comics and films. Meanwhile, Batman: The Animated Series has an episode where one of the Joker's henchman can clearly be seen reading a Tiny Toons comic book. | |
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Arrowverse: In The Flash (2014), Cisco has worn a rock-paper-scissors-lizard-Spock t-shirt, based on The Big Bang Theory, while Sheldon Cooper on The Big Bang Theory has worn Flash t-shirts and costumes. In Superman & Lois, Clark mentions watching Seinfeld reruns. Famously, Jerry Seinfeld is a big fan of Superman and worked Superman references into every episode of Seinfeld. |
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A cross-media example: An ad for Team Fortress 2 appeared at the end of The Venture Bros. Season 5 premiere, with some of the mercenaries too distracted by Hank and Dean's antics to notice a Spy sneaking into their base. A little over a season later, Dr. Venture and Sgt. Hatred were seen playing Team Fortress 2 when they were supposed to be working. While characters from both universes have appeared in the interdimensional bar known as The Inventory, they appeared one game apart. | |
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The Way of the Metagamer and The Way Of The Metagamer 2: In Name Only. In Name Only makes the occasional cameo in the original, and it's been stated that the original exists within the world of In Name Only. Interesting in that In Name Only does not exist. | |
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FitzSimmons are huge Doctor Who fans, referencing it on multiple occasions. Going by the 2016 Christmas special of Doctor Who, Marvel Comics are entirely fictional in the Whoniverse. | |
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Jimmy Olsen in Superman comics is a fan of the Spin Doctors, a band with a Superman-inspired album and a song about Jimmy Olsen. | |
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The Infinite Loops actually justifies this trope. The admins responsible for repairing the multiverse store backups of universes wherever they can, which has the side effect of making the natives write fiction about that universe. The Hub universe is simply the most well protected and undamaged area, which is why we have all this fiction.... | |
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In Terry Pratchett's The Science of Discworld, the wizards create a universe containing 'Roundworld', where physics works but magic and narrative logic don't. The computer Hex tells them not to destroy it because "Recursion has occured". | |
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In A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors, the TV-obsessed patient is seen watching an early scene from the movie Critters. Later, Critters 2: The Main Course had one of its alien doppelgangers attempt to imitate a cardboard Freddy Krueger standee at a video store. | |
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Maniac Mansion has a Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders poster in it, while Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders has a Maniac Mansion poster in it. | |
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A ridiculous example in the first season finale and second season premiere of South Park; "Cartman's Mom is a Dirty Slut" shows the characters see a promo for the movie "Not Without My Anus" and say they will watch it, and in the second season premiere, which turned out to be "Not Without My Anus" itself, Terrence and Philip flip channels and watch part of the former South Park episode (where you can at least hear Cartman's name). This gets a bit muddled as Terrance and Phillip are "real" actors in the South Park universe with a television show the South Park kids watch, but the characters (one assumes) Terrance and Phillip play have watched South Park. Do what now? | |
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In one episode of the first season of Lois & Clark, Lex Luthor made a mention about watching Simpsons reruns. In one Simpsons episode, Comic Book Guy saw some problem and said it was a job for, some heroes he mentioned. Then somebody asked about Superman. | |
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The Railway Series has a Direct Line to the Author; the Kayfabe is that the Rev. Wilbert Awdry has really visited Sodor and writes about events he heard about or witnessed there. Thomas and the Great Railway Show reveals that Thomas & Friends exists as an in-universe TV show that's an adaptation of these books. Then, towards the end of Thomas & Friends' run, it's revealed that Wilbert Awdry and The Railway Series exists in that universe as well, which means that both continuities exist as Based on a True Story works within each other. | |
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Zero Punctuation does this with reality and the Standard Fantasy Setting. If we find fantastic adventures entertaining, fantastic adventurers find mundane reality entertaining (being how fantastic adventures is their day job and all). In one episode, an orc starts insisting that everyone call him "Alan" after a night spent browsing an Otherkin forum, and in another, a group of orcs is playing a Dungeons & Dragons campaign that revolves around accountancy. | |
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Martian Successor Nadesico: A Show Within a Show example: Many characters are fans of Gekiganger 3. The Recap Episode showed that, in turn, the main characters of Gekiganger 3 are fans of Nadesico. To make it even stranger, each series defictionalized something from the other in-verse.note The Gekiganger villain was also watching the recap episode and reinvented the Distortion Field for his Ace Custom mecha; it even gets a Call-Back in the Gekiganger movie. Done mutually with the Gekigan Flare; the Gekiganger 3 framing device was the first time the heroes used their trademark attack in-series — and The Professor admitted he got the idea from watching Nadesico. |
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A tricky one: Green Acres coexists with Petticoat Junction, and Petticoat Junction coexists with The Beverly Hillbillies, but Beverly Hillbillies is fictional on Green Acres (and is Eb's favorite show). In one episode of Green Acres Eb even watches an episode of Petticoat Junction. |
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Dead Space 3 has a DLC "RIG" (futuristic armored space suit) based on Mass Effect, and notes that it's just as popular then as now. Mass Effect 3 has an armor based on the classic RIG suit. | |
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For additional mindwarping, The Simpsons is a cartoon in The Critic - and then Jay Sherman visits the Simpsons family. Gah! A rather cute fanwank points out that as a celebrity TV-Critic in The Critic universe, there is nothing unusual about him guest starring as himself in the Simpsons. Had the actual episode replaced Jay Sherman with a guest starring Roger Ebert nothing in the plot would have changed. |
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In Kyon: Big Damn Hero, characters make several references to Lucky Star — which, in turn, contains many references to Haruhi Suzumiya. It has been theorised that in the fanfic's universe, Lucky Star references "the Trope-tan anime" instead of Haruhi Suzumiya. |
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Dexter's Laboratory had an instance in the Justice Friends short "Things That Go Bonk In The Night". Krunk stays up late watching a multi-day marathon of his favorite show, TV Puppet Pals, finally falling asleep and immediately having a dream wherein he enters the world of the show. The dream predictably goes sour, Krunk wakes up in the midst of shouting, and there's the requisite stinger indicating it wasn't just a dream... and then cut to Puppet Pal Mitch screaming himself awake from a nightmare brought on by having stayed up late watching a multi-day marathon of Justice Friends. | |
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In Fairy Tail Redux: Salamander's Time Traveling Escapades, Fairy Tail's characters are fictional in the Rave Master, Animal Land, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and When They Cry universes, and vice versa. | |
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