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My Defense Need Not Protect Me Forever
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Two sides will be fighting, with one side (usually the villain) holding the upper hand. The hero is left relying on his gradually weakening defenses and it appears that our hero is about to be destroyed. The villain says something like, "You can't hold out forever," and then... Suddenly, the villain is promptly defeated. It may be because a group of reinforcements arrived to take him down. It may be because the hero had to take time to prepare the attack needed to take the villain down. Sometimes it's merely wearing the opponent down until they're tired while the hero still has a full tank. In any case, the hero reveals that he didn't need his defensive measures to cover him forever; he just needed to hold out long enough to set up what was needed to defeat the villain. A subtrope of Tempting Fate. See also Defensive Feint Trap, Just Toying with Them. Contrast with Exactly What I Aimed At, where the hero has apparently missed but turns out to have not needed to hit the villain. |
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The basic concept behind the Hiryuu Shouten Ha technique in Ranma ½: Get your opponent mad and let them keep attacking while you dodge and lead them around in a swirl without getting mad or attacking yourself, even if you take a few hits. This ends up "collecting" the expended "hot" chi energy of the opponent, and allows the user to mix "cold" chi in the mix, creating a tornado of energy upon its completion and tossing their opponent into the air. | |
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Said almost word-for-word in the final space battle of Ender's Game. | |
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This is especially the case with Fire Emblem games. Hold the Line missions in those games have a preset turn limit; as long as you can hold out for just that many turns, you'll win. These maps usually have chokepoints and other defensive positions, but also ways for the enemy to break through and get around them, so the last couple of turns see you overrun - but of course, if you can hold out those turns, the mission's yours. | |
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Homer, being weak and out of shape, relied entirely on this during his brief boxing stint on The Simpsons thanks to an extra-thick layer of fluid protecting his brain. His matches basically amount to him standing there and taking blows, then pushing his opponent over when they tire. It ultimately backfires when he goes up against an Expy of Mike Tyson who can hit hard enough to injure Homer and isn't going to tire anytime soon. | |
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In Real Steel, Atom can take a lot more damage than an average fighting bot thanks to him being built specifically for sparring, but even his endurance is taxed during his prize fight with Zeus, whose fights never last more than 1 round. When Zeus once again starts pounding Atom relentlessly, Charlie just does his best to keep Atom's vital areas covered from the worst of it without hitting back. Eventually, just as Atom's endurance is about to give out, Zeus drains most of his batteries, allowing Atom to take the initiative. Rope-a-dope, Rockem-Sockem-Robots style. | |
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Happens to Cody Jones in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003) when he is taking on Darius Dun. Turtle-X, Cody's Mini-Mecha, is taking a beating from Darius' combat armor. However, this is only a feint; after Dun's armor runs out of power, Cody gleefully mentions that his uncle is now defenseless, while Turtle-X still has plenty of offensive juice left. | |
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In Justice League, Kalibak was fighting Batman and used this line, but Batman revealed that he was just stalling for Superman. When Supes arrived, he punched Kalibak across the block and said, "For what it's worth, I don't think you could have taken Batman either." | |
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In Naruto, during an anime filler, Yamato dodges every attack from a Earth element user, because he was waiting for his preparations to complete for using an Earth technique. | |
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This is a recurring motif in The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch. Locke doesn't have to hold out forever, only until Jean gets to him... | |
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In Miya Black, Pirate Princess IV: This Impossible World, This Impossible Girl, Miya utilises this tactic twice; she almost gets herself killed in the fight against Flynn before ending it with a single unspectacular move ("You show off. I watch."), then reveals that the fight was both a distraction and a delaying tactic. | |
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Tales of Vesperia has a villainous version of this with Alexei, who was somehow still entering commands into a blastia while fighting you. | |
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Freefall: Sam Starfall plays this trope perfectly straight with a robot that wants to kill him. | |
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In Nerf NOW!!, at the climax of a DOTA 2 arc, Anti-Mage is fighting with an enemy Faceless Void with a fixation on proving himself the better "carry". Since Anti-Mage spent time more time farming and developing his build (whereas Void spent more time trying to gank), Void finds himself barely able to scratch Anti-Mage, even with his ultimate, and has to call in his allies. This does almost bring Anti-Mage down, but at this point Anti-Mage reveals he was just there to stall them long enough for his teammates to push into the enemy base. Void ends up rage-quitting when he finds out. | |
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The Order of the Stick has V sum it up: "True, except that we have no need to continue this exercise indefinitely." Roy of Order of the Stick also fights such a battle. And again. This example could also be seen as something of an inversion if viewed from Sabine's perspective; her Attack did not protect her forever... and the backup plan failed spectacularly. V also was on the receiving end of this trope once. V (notice a pattern here?) invokes it here. Ironically, the opponent was attempting the strategy themselves, only for V to inform them of just how long they'd have to hold out. |
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In Schlock Mercenary the battle for the galactic core goes poorly, to quote Petey : "No, we're winning very expensively", until they instantly win. | |
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The Red Dwarf episode "Queeg" opens with Rimmer and a Skutter playing draughts (checkers). Lister points out that Rimmer has one move he can make, and then he's lost. (He has one man left, completely surrounded by kings.) Rimmer replies that all he needs to do is delay making that move until the Skutter has to go back on duty, at which point he wins by default. | |
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Rather unique defense arrangement of 2e Alchemical Exalted: my power shield fails eventually but perfectly blocks, my last HPs don't go out Terminator-like (the appropriate charm has both a development and fanon name Terminator Charm)... all the while I keep coming at you. The catch? Your defenses cost essence, and mine didn't, so if your pool is out before my layers, guess what happens? This is also a trait of Lunar Exalts. Their Charms are built to burn out quickly, but be very powerful while they last. They lack any type of ongoing defense because, as the 2E corebook puts it, 'by the time persistent defenses begin to pay off, the Lunar's enemy should be dead.' Fire Dragon-Blooded in the same edition also share this trait, and it's something that trips up a surprising number of players used to fighting other Celestial-tier Exalts. "Sure, my defenses might not be great, and my essence pool is smaller than yours, but if you mess up your timing once, I will slaughter you." The biggest timing mistake that can be made against them? Infinite Ability Mastery, which is standard operating procedure for most high-end Solar combatants. Earth Dragon-Blooded also have a variant. "My smaller essence pool and relative squishiness is irrelevant when I'm able to shred even your best essence efficiency tactics to nothing and then force the issue by pestering you with small but persistent attacks that you nonetheless can't afford to take without burning essence at a horrendously unsustainable rate." More terrifying pre-errata, as the former component didn't have a keyword immunity that could prevent it, and the latter component was (and still is) typically the most convoluted immunity to acquire. The fact that they're generally the sturdiest of the Dragon-Blooded helps with this tactic as well. |
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DICE: The Cube That Changes Everything: Every Dicer in school is given the bounty on Eunju, which last only one school day, while Dongtae is secretly given the reverse quest to protect her. Dongtae and Taebin spend their reserves of unused Dice on upgrades and active skills to hold off the attackers and barely pass the clock. | |
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In Dragon Age: Origins, the king's strategy at the battle of Ostagar is to use the Grey Wardens (an elite order dedicated to eliminating the attacking darkspawn) as bait in a holding action as his main force moves to flank and crush the darkspawn. The Wardens, though few in number, are elite forces and only need to hold until the main force moves. It doesn't work out as planned. | |
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Dungeons & Dragons A fairly basic tactic that can be employed is to place the designated Main Tank (Strength-based Fighter, Paladin, Barbarian, Cleric in Heavy Armor, Druid in a strong Beast form, or anyone else with a high AC/Hit Point count) at a chokepoint, where the enemies can only harm the Tank, but the Tank's allies have no issues picking off the crowded foes, and healing the Tank as need be. That being said, it's generally a good idea to have a Secondary Tank who will swap places with the Main Tank when they get really hurt, so that they can heal up, keep attacking the foe with javelins and the like, until they are good enough to get back to the front line. |
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In Avatar: The Last Airbender, in "The Day of Black Sun, Part 2" Azula stalls as the heroes fight her so that she can wait for her firebending to come back. | |
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The multiplayer modes in Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect: Andromeda are essentially this. A few objective oriented waves aside, the point is basically to stay alive and kill advancing forces until your evac shuttle arrives to extricate you. | |
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A non-violent case in The Seven Misfortunes of Lady Fortune. Chloé tries to make Marinette give up her Legally Dead status and return home, but no arguments are sufficient to overcome her fears. So she gives up and leaves the room... because she saw Chat Noir arriving, and knows he will be more successful. | |
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This gradually becomes the strategy of the entire British army in Waterloo. Hold off the French army just long enough for their Prussian allies to join them and then overwhelm the French. Despite the fact that the French look set to gradually wear out the English, it finally works. In the (probably apocryphal) words of the Duke of Wellington himself: | |
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Galaxy Quest: During the final space battle, the Protector never fires a single shot at Saris's ship (in fact, the Protector only ever fires once in the film, at the very beginning). Instead, The Captain has the pilot navigate into the nearby mine field, while diverting all available power to the "Plasma Armor" in order to survive Saris's Macross Missile Massacre. By the time he turns his ship around to face Saris, the Protector's armor is completely gone, which means a single volley would finish it off. However, the ship is "dragging" magnetic mines straight towards Saris's ship. Cue explosions. | |
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Star Trek: In any given film, The Enterprise's shields will inevitably fail and yet they will last long enough for the crew to find a way to come out on top; even if they have to make with a much shorter time frame than predicted. | |
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The plot of an episode of Gargoyles. Hudson and Goliath are facing an Ax-Crazy, laser canon-wielding Demona, and big guy Goliath has been taken down. Hudson protects Goliath, and Demona doesn't catch up to them until dawn; at which point all three turn to stone, and Demona has to face a fresh Goliath when the sun goes down. | |
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A minor variant in Final Fantasy VI, you select somewhat long charge-up attacks for everyone else BEFORE you select Cyan...because you can't use anyone else anyway until you have built up to the appropriate skill level with Cyan. By the time those other characters have a second turn coming up, Cyan should be around power level 6 or 7. This is due to Cyan's wind-up time being immense. Your other people are healing or attacking while you have no control over the flow of battle, to buy you time for waiting on Cyan. (The Pixel Remaster inverts this, as it is now possible to select the desired Bushido move with Cyan and allow it to charge up in the background while you select moves with everyone else.) | |
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Beseiged and Campaign fights in Final Fantasy XI also functioned like this to a point. While it was possible to win the fights by kicking enough ass, there was a time limit imposed on the advancing beastmen before they retreated. In Beseiged, if they couldn't kill the remaining allied Generals and capture the Astral Candesence in an hour, they'd automatically retreat. Against a Level 8 beastmen army, the best most servers could muster was to kill the mooks, and occupy the Notorious Monsters/Beastmen Generals until time was up. Likewise, in defensive Campaign fights, it was possibly to drive off the attackers, but simply guarding the fortifications that were under attack long enough that the beastmen retreated was considered as victory as well. | |
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Girl Genius: This one is subverted, as it turns out that Agatha has to hide after all. |
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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword has another villainous version where Ghirahim explicitly states that the hordes that he summons is meant to stall for the time he needs to sacrifice Zelda's soul, and Ghirahim himself goes One-Winged Angel and stalls for more time as he duels Link for the third time. | |
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Doctor Strange (2016): Strange doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against Dormammu in a straight fight. He chooses instead to trap Dormammu in a "Groundhog Day" Loop every time the Evil Overlord kills him, coming back over and over and over and over again until Dormammu snaps from the tedium and gives up. | |
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In Kill Six Billion Demons one of its Supernatural Martial Arts, Fierce Horse Soul, is dedicated solely to defensive techniques that improve durability, conserve energy, and increase endurance. Until you've practiced it for a few thousand years, at which point you can unleash the energy you've stored up in a titanic Kamehame Hadoken. | |
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Attempted in an episode of The Spectacular Spider-Man. After Doctor Octopus cuts their first fight short when his mechanical tentacles run low on power, Spider-Man tries to play keep-away with the improved power source the doc is after until they run out again. Unfortunately, Doc Ock sees through the plot and gloats that his recharged battery has enough at least another hour of juice, and he can to a lot of damage in that much time. Spidey ultimately tricks Ock by Playing Possum and snatching both batteries while he’s switching them out, leaving Ock defenceless. | |
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In Ashido and Aoyama's fight in My Hero Academia, Ashido doesn't have to dodge Aoyama's Navel Laser forever- just long enough for the stomach strain to get to him and give her an opening to disable his control belt. | |
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In Pokémon, Stall Teams use this tactic. Hunker down and heal while weather and status effects take out your enemy. Of course, this runs the risk of letting your opponent set up a truly devastating attack. | |
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In Code Geass R2, the Black Knights fight a defensive battle against the corrupt eunuchs who rule the Chinese Federation. They get trapped in a mountain cave and hold out until Lelouch's Engineered Public Confession causes the oppressed masses to rise up, turning the tide of the battle. | |
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Very common in Magic: The Gathering, particularly with combo decks facing creature aggro decks. They slow down their opponent with counterspells or creature removal long enough for the aggro deck to run out of gas, allowing them to set up a devastating move. The right card can often totally shift the course of a game. | |
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In Five Nights at Freddy's, you can't keep up your defenses forever, since all of them drain your Power Meter. Luckily for you, they only have to protect you until 6 AM. | |
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In The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind, during the second stage of the fight with Dagoth Ur in the Heart Chamber, he is actually immortal and cannot be killed (not counting exploits). He will mock the player along these lines, but the goal isn't to best him in combat. Rush past him, negate or heal any damage...and then focus on unbinding the Heart, the source of his (and the Tribunal's) immortality, which will actually kill him. | |
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Arthur attempting to save his house in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: | |
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Fairy Tail has a villainous example during the Tartaros arc. The eponymous Dark Guild finally succeeds in activating the Magic Weapon Face to revive Master END, but the weapon needs to finish a countdown before firing. In order to buy time, Mard Geer orders Kyouka to merge with the activation lacrima to speed up the process, despite the fact it will kill her. She does so anyways and engages Erza in battle, and while she does ultimately dies at the heroes' hands, it's too late to stop Face from firing. | |
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A variation in Tales of the Questor: The only defense against being repossessed that Freeman Downs has is Quentyn going out and trying to find the artifacts, something he may well perish before doing so. If he dies in the attempt, Racconan law states that the debt ends with him. | |
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Several timed missions in that series and in StarCraft involve stalling until help arrives or a devastating attack can be prepared. However, in one of the early missions, if you build up enough defenses, they really can protect you forever. In StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, the final Protoss mission is designed to specifically test if you CAN do this. It only ends when you die. It should be noted that this is one of the few missions you play as the protoss instead of your usual terran army that excels on turtling. |
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In Team Fortress 2, the Scout's secondary unlockable is the BONK! Atomic Punch energy drink. When you drink it, the Scout becomes invincible for 5 seconds but cannot attack. ...Except for the taunt kill with an incredibly long wind-up time. A relatively easy way of getting the Scout's taunt kill achievement is therefore to drink BONK!, then quickly approach an enemy from behind and start the taunt. Even though BONK! will wear off just before the swing finishes, your enemy will die instantly from the attack and thus you don't need the protection anymore. Unless the rest of the team is nearby, which they most likely will be. | |
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Discussed and deconstructed in the Doctor Who story "Survival", as part of the story's general critique of Thatcherite social darwinism. The Doctor overhears a shopkeeper telling another a variation on the page quote joke ("I don't have to outrun the lion...") and explains the punchline for the listener, who doesn't get it. He then notes that while the strategy may be effective in a brutally ruthless sort of way, it overlooks one possible problem: what happens when the next lion comes along and there's no friend to outrun? | |
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In Asterix and the Big Fight, Vitalstatistix must fight a rival chieftain who's sold out to the Romans and much larger than him, without magic potion as Getafix is amnesiac. So his strategy is to run away from him in the ring, dodging punches, until Asterix shows up to tell him the druid got better. This good news allows Vitalstatistix to Ring Out the rival in one punch. | |
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Yu-Gi-Oh!: Marik's Osiris-centered combo is set up so the dragon's attack increases with the amount of cards in his hand, which increases whenever one of his monsters dies. His slime monster perpetually ressurects and automatically Takes The Bullet for any other target, so the dragon's attack keeps increasing. Yugi counters it by mindcontrolling the slime. The dragon automatically attacks weak monsters, killing the slime and letting Marik draw a card... except the slime ressurects on Yugi's side, causing the dragon to attack and Marik to draw a card, up until Marik runs out of cards and loses by default, unable to stop the loop. | |
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In the 80's G.I. Joe: The Movie, Falcon gets captured by Serpentor and is held down by his minions while Serpentor beats on him to get him to talk. | |
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Chakona Space: Played with in the hands of a stowaway: | |
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In StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty, the final Protoss mission is designed to specifically test if you CAN do this. It only ends when you die. | |
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In Dragon Ball Z, Goku has tried everything else to no effect against Frieza, and has to resort to his trump card, the Spirit Bomb. The problem is, it'll take him several minutes to create a big enough Spirit Bomb, and he has to stand motionless and let Frieza pummel him while doing it. This means the much weaker Piccolo is forced to step in and fight a losing battle to keep Frieza distracted long enough. Subverted, as while the Spirit Bomb causes a lot of damage to Frieza, it fails to defeat him. Invoked by Android 18 during her battle with Super Saiyan Vegeta in the Android arc. Thanks to her infinite energy reserves, she manages to tank Vegeta's assault with only a few scuffs. Piccolo notices this, but its already too late. Once Vegeta gets tired, 18 starts to smack him around and breaks his arm in the process. It's invoked by Gohan against Buu, when he claims that he only needs to hold out for 30 minutes for the absorbed Gotenks' fusion to wear off, after which Buu would be dramatically weakened. For some reason though, Gohan and the rest of the heroes seemed to forget about this. Gohan goes all-out in the fight rather than stalling, and Elder Kai comes up with the idea of permanently fusing Gohan and Goku together to beat Buu. Gohan even gets healed back to full strength by Dende and could have continued to fight Buu until the expiration of the Gotenks fusion. But...things didn't quite turn out that way. |
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Rurouni Kenshin: Himura Kenshin has defeated a few opponents with evasion and timing and buying time for a counterattack was how Aoshi's Elite Mooks made a Heroic Sacrifice. | |
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In the first game of Eyeshield 21, Hiruma reminds the team of mostly rookies that they only need to cover their ace running back for 0.5 seconds, which would give him enough time to get a significant amount of yardage. | |
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Most Tank-type characters in City of Heroes have a power that gives them a lot of bonuses and power, but only for a few minutes, after which you'll be drained of endurance and/or other abilities. The reasoning is this very trope: You need those extra defenses just for a minute or so, after that it won't matter. Also applies to the power Moment Of Glory from the Regeneration powerset, usable by Scrappers, Brutes, and Stalkers, all of which focus on offense. The defensive buff it gives makes the user pretty much impossible to kill, but it only lasts as long as the name suggests. With the damage they can dole out, a moment can be all those characters need. |
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In Saint Seiya, the Perseus saint tells Shiryu he can't block his Medusa shield forever. Shiryu was unable to attack effectively at the moment, so he decides to blind himself. | |
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In Cobra Kai, John Kreese recognizes this as the style of Miyagi-Do karate, it being a pacifist martial art that focuses on blocking, defending, and counter-attacking. He explains to his students that it is entirely reactive, defending and shrugging off attacks until an opening presents itself and they strike a decisive winning blow, and therefore the aggressive Cobra Kai is in full control of the direction and pace of the battle: its biggest weakness is its practitioners can be baited with a feint, their counter-attack blocked, and then struck with a counter-counter-attack when they're knocked off balance. It's not until the Miyagi-Do practitioners begin using Eagle Fang tactics that they are able to stand against the Cobra Kais, and even Daniel realizes in the end that he needs to learn the offensive tactics of the martial art and enlists Chozen to teach him. | |
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