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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be

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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be	comment	One of the reasons for Hollywood History is the average scriptwriter or executive having a very cursory understanding of the era in which they're setting the story. Usually, they just want to take advantage of the basic "theme", historical events, or cool outfits of that period, and figure that most viewers won't be able to tell the difference, anyway. The other, equally onerous culprit for simplifying history is nostalgia, especially where dealing with recent history. For example, you almost never will find a movie or show set in The '60s that does not paint the time as an idealistic period. In that period, we're told, every person below the age of 25 was a community-oriented free-thinker and environmental activist, kids cared about the future and were willing to fight for it, everybody had orgies all the time, and revolution was just around the corner... or that's how nostalgia would have it seem. It gets worse with The '50s. Since many writers grew up in the Fifties, it's rarely shown as anything but wholesome, fun and brilliant, with Nothing but Hits blaring out of every radio and every teenager playing rock'n'roll. Despite the continuing mistreatment of black people, the lead in paint, gasoline and food cans, and the threat of nuclear war, the Fifties is often considered something of a golden age as much as the jazz-heavy, all-night dancing at posh hotel and partying at a boozy speakeasy life that is depicted for The Roaring '20s (the Klan was experiencing a revival and you could die if you drank rotgut bootleg, and mobsters were killing each other) or the glitter and grandeur of The '80s is shown as glamorous, high-fashion beautiful people doing "blow" at Studio 54 (there was a point where the Cold War was about to end badly and the AIDS epidemic was either ignored or cheered on by homophobic world leaders). The worst parts of these decades and even earlier eras are similarly not brought up or even totally ignored. The reverse is also often true; the late '60s (especially if set around the Vietnam War) and The '70s — which, not entirely coincidentally, many of these writers were no longer growing up in, being adults — will be subject to an inverted Nostalgia Filter, being painted in a very negative light, with all innocence lost and the dream most definitely being over: Cities are living hellholes, young men are sent to a sure death and the government uses dirty tricks against its people. The same for The '90s, which will be portrayed as a time everyone was either moping or panicking about Y2K. The Noughties also being a time that paranoia was all around and an economic meltdown was just round the corner. And The '30s are just that, the '30s (aka Great Depression and Hitler). The negative aspects of these decades will be stressed, and any positive things quietly ignored (except for those who lived in those eras, for whom the filter will be in full effect). This even applies to decades once portrayed positively: the 1950s are now often caricatured as a nation-wide repressive prison for everyone not straight, white, cisgendered, and male (complete with ironic sitcom trappings). Also, the creativity and experimentalism of such decades is often understated in favor of overemphasis on the camp, cheesy, and kitsch aspects of their popular culture (with all of the Pandering to the Base and Lowest Common Denominator that entails). This causes later generations to not take these decades seriously. This is so all-pervading that it affects even younger writers who weren't even alive during the decade in question, as a kind of "proto-nostalgia". This could have something to do with the way pop-cultural output is treated; between the 20- and 30- years ago mark is when the clothes go from hideously dated to retro chic, the TV shows from ubiquitous reruns to material that has to be sought out, the cars from clapped-out clunkers to seldom-seen, cherished classics and the music from stuff the "new music" stations play on the commercial-free Sunday afternoons to bona-fide oldies. Similarly, the cultural output that is remembered and stands the test of time tends to be the good stuff (or at least, the stuff that the majority of people enjoyed), with the rubbish being quickly left behind or forgotten; as such, we tend to remember The '60s as being a time of great music because the stronger music of the decade keeps getting played and covered and included on soundtracks, whereas the rubbish music (or at least, the music that no one listened to) has been quietly forgotten except by vintage music geeks (who, of course, will be casually looked down upon as Hipsters. Nostalgists will always insist that they want a return only to the "good stuff" of the past, not the "bad stuff" (notwithstanding the difficulty of reaching a consensus on what exactly was "good" or "bad"). They will most likely condemn the regrettable old stuff vehemently, declaring that it was a "betrayal" of the "true", unvarnished ideal of the past and that decent people disapproved of it back then. At worst, they will (neurotically) defend bad things from the past as necessary evils — the price one somehow had to pay for the good stuff. Of course, there are plenty of (often younger) writers who happen to like the present fine, thank you very much, and can be quite keen on skewering this trope by pointing out exactly what they think was wrong about the past (often with a none-too-subtle 'screw you' directed at the perpetrators of this kind of mindset in the process)This is not surprising, as all the writers mentioned above did the same thing when they were young. Suffice to say that these young, hip writers so eager to take the past down a peg will in twenty years' time be as irrationally nostalgic for the 2000s and the 2010s as George Lucas is for the Fifties or Michael Bay is for the Eighties. And in 50 to 70 years, people will start pointing out what they view as what's wrong with the 2010s and 2020s and take jabs at people holding nostalgia for that period, continuing the cycle. This trope is not nearly as awesome today as it was in past centuries. For example, to Stendhal (1783-1842), everything went downhill after the fall of Napoleon, but at least he lived through Napoleon's reign, unlike Gibbon, who thought the world went to hell after the death of Marcus Aurelius, in 180 AD. Hesiod insisted things had been going wrong at least since the invention of iron. Even ancient Sumer has clay tablets dating to around 2500 B.C. with similar complaints, making it Older Than Dirt. See also Ye Goode Olde Days and Nostalgia Filter.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_1da5c84d	comment	Fear Street: The first film 1994 naturally has a series of '90s pop and grunge every few minutes, references to My So-Called Life and iconography evoking the likes of Scream (1996) and I Know What You Did Last Summer. But the homophobia of the era is highlighted, as well as Gen X cynicism. Director Leigh Janiak was a teenager during the time, and based everything on her own experiences. The second 1978 does likewise with '70s hits and a cheerful look at the hippie and drug culture, as well as positioning itself as a fun throwback to horror like Halloween (1978) and Friday The Thirteenth 1980. But one of the main characters is implied to be a closeted lesbian who's trying to escape her life by passing for straight, contrasting the two in 1994 who are at least able to be a couple. The drug culture is also shown to be a shallow escape from an empty lifestyle.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_1dc97630	comment	Last Night in Soho: The protagonist, Ellie, is an aspiring fashion designer who loves the music, movies and fashions from The '60s, causing her to idealize the decade. She starts having dreams about another girl her age, Sandie, who lived through that decade and wanted to be a singer. Ellie realizes the decade she idolizes wasn't all that great as she watches Sandie's dreams being crushed by the sexism of the era; namely, a man promises her what she wants, but actually tricks her into sex work and abuses her and manipulates her so that she doesn't try to escape.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_1f6e3b56	comment	A Royal Night Out is at first a harmless Roman Holiday-esque comedy in 1945 London, showing off the fashions and music of the period as the citizens celebrate VE Night. But then it shows what a transitional time it was, with another character reminding everyone "there's still a war going on in the Far East", the male lead is a Shell-Shocked Veteran who had his idealism shattered by the death of his best friend and even when the celebration start - you still see weeping couples mourning the friends and family they lost.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_203f09b9	comment	The Lovely Bones is far more nostalgic to the seventies than its book counterpart - with period appropriate music and a color palette that evokes works made in the decade. This only serves to highlight the tragedy of Susie's murder; she even says that it took place in a time before people thought children actually did go missing.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_2566ca3d	comment	Played with and ultimately subverted in No Country for Old Men. Throughout the plot, Sheriff Bell despairs for the modern world and how it could let someone like Anton Chigurh live unmolested in it, and generally holds the belief that nobody like Chigurh would have been able to do so much evil in the old days. However, towards the end Bell talks to his Uncle, who relays the story of how his grandfather was killed - Shot on his own porch by a group of Native Americans, who stood and watched as he bled to death on his own steps. Bell's uncle tells him that men like Chigurh have always existed and always have done evil, and bluntly tells Bell that thinking the past was any better is no more than vanity.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_29e77392	comment	This is basically the concept of Horrible Histories, where they inform people of historical events and periods that are often idealized by bringing up how they are often violent and disgusting.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_2e2efbf9	comment	Back to the Future plays with this. At first, shows the Fifties to be extremely bright and happy. But then some darker aspects show up. Racism is mentioned, for instance. Marty's mother is shown to be a somewhat promiscuous smoker and drinker, and Biff Tannen is a Grade A bully and attempted-rapist.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_2e3e7ac2	comment	An episode of Justice League does this when some of the heroes end up in a Golden Age-style alternate universe. Green Lantern doesn't quite know how to take being called a credit to his race. The episode could also be viewed as a more pragmatic look at the comic books released during that time, free from the usual Nostalgia Filter fans look through with them. The catchphrases and corny lines are often painful to listen to and the villains behave in such absurd ways you get the sense a story like this would never be published today. On the other hand, all those elements were a ton of fun to watch due to how goofy they were and ultimately the Justice Guild sacrificed themselves for the second time to save the world, being real heroes. Notably, the original draft of the script had the Justice Society of America as characters, but the creators were forced to change the characters to Captain Ersatz versions of the originals called the Justice Guild, apparently because DC Comics was hesitant to have the real characters shown in that light.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_33fdae4d	comment	Averted by Mad Men. Set at the transition point between The '50s and The '60s (culturally, it's the '50s; JFK isn't dead until the end of the third season), the people behind the show go to great lengths to avoid the nostalgia factor. And not with mere background details; what appears often serves to make situations that would be easily resolved in our time hopelessly complicated. In other words (the show is trying to say), although The '60s weren't that long ago, they really were incredibly different, and were not by any stretch of the imagination "better" than our time. Nevertheless, the characters are so engaging and the visual style so distinctive that the series really has to work hard to avoid Truffaut's Theorem.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_38ecf7	comment	Averted in DC: The New Frontier, with both comics and cartoon adaptation showing (briefly, in the latter's case) the fate of John Henry, who survived lynching (his family didn't) and took revenge on The Klan, only to be caught by them near the middle and murdered as well. The story also dealt with the McCarthyism paranoia of the '50s. On the other hand, JFK in the coda is all but treated as the saintly embodiment of everything good, virtuous, and true.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_3b88d68c	comment	In the fifth sphere of Dante's Paradiso, Dante's great-great grandfather paints Dante a picture of a heroic, chaste, and Christian Florence from the time of the Second Crusade. This beautiful society Dante never got to know contrasts with the corrupt and sinful Florence that banished Dante in favor of a corrupt Pope, leaving Dante to imagine what his home could be if it only followed the example of its dead heroes.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_3f029847	comment	Anne with an E serves to deconstruct the idea of 19th Century Canada as an Arcadia as famously portrayed in the 1980s Kevin Sullivan adaptations of the books. At first shown with beautiful visuals highlighting the scenery of Prince Edward Island, and showing the community as a peaceful place, the series soon plays up some of the biggest fears of the period. Anne is sent on the train back to the city, Matthew has to chase after her and Marilla is at her wit's end waiting around for them, with no way of knowing if they've even found each other yet. The series also plays up the abuse Anne suffered in her previous homes because orphans were seen as lesser humans at the time.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_3f633fb4	comment	Cracked did an article where Adam Tod Brown outlined things people needed to stop feeling nostalgic for. They included Cassette tapes (Impossible to fast forward accurately and easy to break), mom and pop stores (How many people actually use them?), talking instead of text messaging, and neighborhood crime (That's right, there are actually people who think being able to walk through the streets of Manhattan without the very real fear of death is a step down from the old days).
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_400469e	comment	For a strip that often depicts the joys and wonders of childhood, Calvin and Hobbes also doesn't hold back about the frustrations, disappointments and difficulties that come with it. Calvin is a smart kid with a vivid imagination and an expert at making his own fun, but he also has practically no means to impact the events that unfold around him or the relationships he has with other people, almost all of his decisions are made for him but he still has to suffer the consequences, real-world problems are much bigger to him because his world is so much smaller, and even when he's 100% right about something, he gets shut down by the adults in his life simply because they're the adults and he isn't. Calvin himself sums it up in one strip where he's knocked into a mud puddle by resident bully Moe, just because Moe felt like doing it:
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_4249cc3a	comment	Candorville demonstrates this trope for less than a strip during a bout of Mental Time Travel, then subverts it in the last panel. The time traveled to is the U.S. right before Lincoln's assassination, and while the American Civil War may be over, the prevailing attitude towards blacks hasn't changed much.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_4617a9f2	comment	Both subverted and played straight on Married... with Children. Al Bundy relishes The '60s and the classic oldies songs from when he was in high school, but another episode has him ripping on The '70s, claiming that the fashion, music and culture all really sucked (this doesn't actually stop him from trying to cash in into the '70s nostalgia craze of the '90s).
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_49340431	comment	The Brooklyn Nine-Nine episode "Old School" centers around Peralta's idealization of '70s police work. Eventually, Captain Holt ends up informing him that the '70s were a dark time for the NYPD, and that in addition to the drug epidemic and high crime rates that plagued the city, the department itself was a hotbed of corruption, racism, misogyny, and homophobia. Holt, who's black and gay, specifically tells Jake that when he arrived at his precinct for his first day of work, the other (white) officers believed that instead of him being their new colleague, he was a criminal there to turn himself in. Peralta's nostalgia is dispelled for good when the journalist who wrote many of the crime books that inspired a young Peralta starts using homophobic slurs when referring to Captain Holt.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_49729b9c	comment	The second 1978 does likewise with '70s hits and a cheerful look at the hippie and drug culture, as well as positioning itself as a fun throwback to horror like Halloween (1978) and Friday The Thirteenth 1980. But one of the main characters is implied to be a closeted lesbian who's trying to escape her life by passing for straight, contrasting the two in 1994 who are at least able to be a couple. The drug culture is also shown to be a shallow escape from an empty lifestyle.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_5cc4622f	comment	Billy Bat: the series takes place throughout the years as a conspiracy action thriller used as creative material to write the titular Billy Bat comic book, but even as the comic invokes nostalgia of comic books from the 1950s to the 2000s, we can see the negative effects of racism, sexism, conspiracy, fraud, and poverty that were rampant in these times during the 'real-world' portions of the manga, even as they practically write the plot of the seemingly non-bigoted comic.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_5e11a1e8	comment	The Superior Spider Man Team-Up tie-in to Infinity revolved around an Inhuman teen named Fulmina, who wanted to wipe out all the technology in the world in order to bring mankind back to a "better time". Spidey defeated her by forcing her to realize that the past was not actually better than the present, and that the time period she idealized actually had tons of issues like The Black Death, class and race discrimination, and extreme religious intolerance.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_60f02ddb	comment	Stan Smith and Hank Hill are both very nostalgic for The '80s, due in no small part to the fact that Ronald Reagan was President at the time. Stan, despite not having grown up in the early 20th century, longed for the "simpler days" where men ruled everything instead of 'most' of everything and women had no say. When his boss sends him to Saudi Arabia, he is reluctant until he realizes they hold the "old fashioned values" he held dear. This eventually backfired when Francine was about to be executed for singing and dancing in public while wearing lingerie and kissing other men. Of course, Saudi Arabia makes American culture even at its most puritanical look pretty open-minded. The Saudi government bans women's underwear ads, for example. The only reason he's sympathetic is because he's outright nostalgically deluded; his "white male" childhood was as a low-class criminal's abused son, yet he worked hard and succeeded in life by having a dream of what his life should have been and then striving to make that dream for his children. In almost every episode featuring his childhood, he has convinced himself that since he is American, he had a loving family and was filthy rich compared to people in many other countries (which is sadly, Truth in Television), but his kids see through it and it's clearly shown how much it affects their lives (his daughter is a Soapbox Sadie New-Age Retro Hippie, his son is a Jock Dad, Nerd Son, almost exactly the opposite of what he wanted them to be).
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_6276800c	comment	The entire point of The Nostalgia Critic and The Nostalgia Chick is deconstructing this trope. It's argued, however, that all they really do is deconstruct it for what they don't like.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_65608411	comment	When Lazarus Long learns he has the option to go back in time to relive the era of his childhood in Time Enough for Love, he's practically skipping with delight as he heads down the ramp from his ship. His feelings of elation remain undiminished even after his first encounter with a local is a small town sheriff explaining they have simple rules in said small town: "No tramps or n—-ers after dark." Even after he establishes himself in the city where he grew up as a child, and is forcibly reminded of the vicious intolerance and sanctimonious hypocrisy of "upstanding society." Even after he belatedly realizes that World War I was a thing that went on while he was a small child. It isn't until he finds himself peer pressured into enlisting (rather than be shamed in the eyes of his own grandfather, whom he'd befriended under his assumed identity, as well as his mother... whom he'd fallen in love with...), forced to train recruits in inferior methods despite having clearly superior technical expertise with both bayonets and unarmed combat, and ultimately gets mortally wounded in No Man's Land alongside a poor soldier under his command, that Lazarus acknowledges that he's glad to be heading back to the 41st century, courtesy of a last second rescue.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_6a4bddd6	comment	During the Hands of the Mandarin crossover in the Iron Man books, a spell conjured by the titular villain negated all modern technology. War Machine briefly considered allowing things to remain as they were, by pointing out that things like the atom bomb, pollution, and militarized dictatorships would no longer be an issue, only for his friend Su Yin to counter by mentioning that horrible things, all the way to full-blown atrocities against humanity, existed long before modern technology was around.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_6a5cadf7	comment	Actively averted in Foyle's War, which attempts to explode the myth of wartime Britain being a rosy place where everyone pulled together for the common good by showing just how desperate, venal and damaged people were by World War II, a common theme being that war changes people, usually for the worse. Corruption is rife, as people attempt to exploit their positions to either profit from the war or avoid it altogether, people are at times cowardly and incompetent and scarred by the necessities of war (namely hundreds to thousands of people being killed by or killing hundreds to thousands of other people on an almost daily basis) both physically and psychologically, and in the early seasons particularly there's a sense of defeat as the Nazis seem to be an unstoppable, omnipotent war machine crushing all in its path, with Britain likely to prove no different. Furthermore, the government is quite willing to let people get away literally with murder if there's a chance that they can help kill even more Germans, thus raising the question of what the point of investigating murders and other 'trivial' crimes during wartime actually is. Of course, it's not an entirely hopeless place, and there are decent, brave and even heroic people around as well.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_6c9193a1	comment	The Venture Brothers is a whole show built around this trope. It's both a love letter to and a Deconstruction of '60s animation and the Silver Age comic books, and takes pains to illustrate "No, the '60s weren't necessarily the paradise people built it up to be." The flashback scenes almost always contain Deliberate Values Dissonance, such as shocking instances of casual racism or misogyny that were deemed perfectly okay back then.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_71a07a47	comment	Paper Girls is a love letter to '80s kid adventure movies like Stand by Me and The Monster Squad, but doesn't shy away from from the less desirable parts of the decade. There's a lot of casual homophobia, and one of the underage characters smokes without any regard for what it'll do to her health. In the words of the writer:
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_73d7930f	comment	Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: Lampshaded and then some in one episode. Sisko called out a holodeck program specifically for being period inaccurate with regard to the various prejudices of the day. It was then immediately pointed out to Sisko that it wasn't supposed to be an accurate representation of the era, but the era as it should have been. Another episode averted it by depicting the crew as living in pre-Civil Rights Movement New York. Racism, sexism, and police corruption and brutality are portrayed as ever-present threats and the word "nigger" is used to shocking effect for a TV show that aired on prime time in the '90s. The episode's ending leaves it ambiguous over whether or not it was Only A Dream.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_74fcaab2	comment	Averted again with Sandman Mystery Theatre, which actually dealt with issues like the rampant racism of the '30s and '40s. This is notable since in general, most DC Universe publications seem to have a serious Nostalgia Filter when it comes to the Golden Age.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_791fca44	comment	BioShock, BioShock 2, and BioShock Infinite are all full of this trope. The third game in particular drew a lot of attention for its very frank and honest depiction of the rampant racism found in the early 20th century. Expect a lot of Deliberate Values Dissonance, especially when it comes to matter of race or gender.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_79b17f0f	comment	The "Last Days" tie-in to Ant-Man reveals that Mary Morgenstern, one of Ant-Man's financial backers, is actually the retired superheroine Miss Patriot. When it's brought up that she used to use the name "Mary Morgan" back during the '40s, it's heavily implied that Mary is Jewish, and that her family changed their surname to avoid the rampant antisemitism of the era.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7b0ba742	comment	The Richard Curtis film The Boat That Rocked (Pirate Radio in the US) is a nostalgic celebration of the The '60s counterculture but also notes some of the less pleasant elements, especially the way 'free love' could morph into selfishness and amoral hedonism. As one character puts it: "the dark side of rock and roll."
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7c0fd33	comment	As noted in the Phonogram example above, Britpop curmudgeon Luke Haines is famous for decrying nostalgia in all its forms, because of the way it warps people's perceptions of things.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7c6f5e19	comment	Averted on The Red Green Show when Red talks to teenagers and advises them not to listen to older people who become nostalgic for The '60s. Giving viewers the real story from someone who was there, he explains that a lot of people did in fact try free love... but then they went to the free clinic. And yes, a lot of people did try new stuff... but then they had their stomachs pumped. And yes, half a million people showed up at Woodstock... but a lot more than that went overseas to Vietnam. And yes, the decade did have a lot of great protest songs... but they also had bands like the 1910 Fruitgum Company. He concludes by advising today's youth that, whenever an adult rips on them for not being born in the 1960s, they can just hum back "Yummy Yummy Yummy/I Got Love In My Tummy."
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7d5e43b0	comment	Humourously played with in an episode of The Goodies where Tim drives Britain to a ridiculous '50s nostalgia wave to the point even television returns to its fifties' tiny black-and-white screen self. The flip-side is that the gang has to report for National Service for two years as it has become mandatory once again.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7dd3fcb6	comment	Dazed and Confused both plays this straight and subverts it. It portrays, for the most part, an idealized, nostalgia-inducing view of the 1970s, yet also shows how people are often discontent with a period simply because it's the present. At one point in the film, a girl is shown talking about the "every other decade rule"; the '50s were lame, the '60s were great, and the '70s obviously suck, and maybe the '80s will be awesome. Additionally, Pink says "If I ever start referring to these as the best years of my life, remind me to kill myself."
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7f5bc680	comment	The Fallout series inverts this, showing a United States where culturally the Fifties never ended as a shallow, corporation-run nightmare that barely hides the fact that democracy fell by the wayside to Red Scare paranoia. The Federal Government basically became the Nazis.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_7fc57c48	comment	The first film 1994 naturally has a series of '90s pop and grunge every few minutes, references to My So-Called Life and iconography evoking the likes of Scream (1996) and I Know What You Did Last Summer. But the homophobia of the era is highlighted, as well as Gen X cynicism. Director Leigh Janiak was a teenager during the time, and based everything on her own experiences.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_82641a94	comment	The Hagakure, by Yamamoto Tsunetomo, notes the futility of nostalgia, saying that it's necessary to make the best out of each generation. However, Yamamoto not only claims that the good old days were actually better, he notes that each generation is less than the one before it because the world is coming to an end.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_885a3408	comment	A Bronx Tale is rife with aversions. While the narrator does fondly remember his youth during the '50s and '60s, the movie doesn't shy away from showing the racial tension and violence of the era. Even C's father, one of the nicer and less-bigoted characters, states that people should only marry within their own race. That's not even getting into the horribly racist attitudes displayed by C's Italian-American buddies...
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_8877cc89	comment	It (2017) is a lot more nostalgic than the book. The book was set in the '50s but the film updates it to the '80s, so that it will be nostalgic for the current audience of grown-up '80s kids. New Kids on the Block fans, a character who resembles Molly Ringwald and plenty of '80s Hair galore. But the adults of the town are blissfully unaware of the malevolent force that's attacking and kidnapping the children.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_8e82c366	comment	This trope is called out in one episode of The Real Ghostbusters. Ray reminisces on the Fifties and notes what a simpler time they are. Egon tells him that there's no inherent proof of that, and that each decade has its own individual challenges.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_9068877a	comment	Red vs. Blue: At the end of The Revelation, Church ends up trapped in a memory unit and decides to look for Tex by reliving the events of Blood Gulch, because, "If you're going to be trapped in a memory, it might as well be a good one." Come Season 9, and the first we see of Church has him bitterly complaining that he forgot how much he hated working in Blood Gulch, and for good reason. Back then, the Reds and Blues were Armed Farces in every sense in the term, and the camaraderie they developed during Seasons 6-8 doesn't exist. When Church tried to negotiate with the Reds, they shot him in the foot, with Tucker and Caboose not caring enough to help. In "Not-So-Good Old Days" of The Singularity, Wash uses Mental Time Travel to return to his days when Project Freelancer was in full swing- and is immediately reminded that back then, he was "Bottom of the food chain", and Agent Carolina was a total hardass.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_9096e12c	comment	Averted in CarnivÃ le. The '30s seem like a craptastic world where America is replaced by a wasteland that actively tries to kill anyone, no institutionalized justice exists, bigotry is rampant, the poor are callously abused and imprisoned, and even Messiahs have to harm people to perform miracles. This makes sense since probably the only people who have ever idealized the Thirties were those who were actually there, and for the most part they probably only did it while they were actually happening - because, after all, how else are you supposed to get through such a rough time?
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_9137cdf6	comment	Appears in Boogie Nights, which is set in the Los Angeles porn scene during the late seventies and early eighties. Whilst not exactly perfect — it is the porn industry, after all — The '70s are depicted as being a colorful and carefree time, and considering the setting quite innocent as well; everyone's largely happy, everything's going well, and everything's bright and cheerful. Then along come The '80s. The Eighties suck for all concerned. Truth in Television, the porn industry took a hit in the '80s with the onset of AIDS, VHS replacing film and the Reagan administration declaring war on it. The movie follows a similar plot structure to Goodfellas, which depicts The '70s as being a time when everything's going pretty well, and The '80s as a really sucky time for everyone. Although even less rosy than Boogie Nights - Goodfellas, after all, deals with The Mafia - the similar structure nevertheless paints The '70s as a time of optimism for its characters, and The '80s as a time when everything came crashing down. In both cases cocaine (and the main characters' increasing addiction to it) plays a strong role in the misery that follows. The '60s are portrayed even more idyllically, with Henry describing it (in almost those exact words) as the Golden Age of Wiseguys. It actually goes as far to deconstruct The '50s as a time marked by postwar trauma.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_923dd091	comment	Another CollegeHumor video, "no, you weren't 'born in the wrong decade' also deals with this trope. With one individual claiming they were 'born in the wrong decade' and having nostalgia for several periods they weren't even around in while trying to bring her friends around to the same way of thinking; Starting with the 1960s, then the 1920s, and then the 1770s. Only for one of their friends to constantly point out all the bad parts of each period: the racism and segregation of the '60s, the polio epidemics and the widespread organized crime of the 1920s, and the slavery and countless horrific diseases of the 1770s; until eventually they give up out of sheer frustration.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_971e8e24	comment	RedLetterMedia have brought up personal nostalgia for "Old" Star Trek (ie: pre-2009 JJ Abrams reboot movies) several times, mentioning how ever much they love the older movies, TNG, DS 9 or Voyager. They know that in terms of technical details and acting they are dated, and that "slow" cerebral storylines without much action are unlikely to become major big budget movies anymore. When doing Star Trek: Discovery on "Re-View", Mike mentions how despite all the problems they have with it he still prefers it to The Orville because it is new and original while the latter is too-much like Next Generation in terms of retro production feel and the recycled ideas used in the stories he literally could not watch more than five episodes.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_99f313a2	comment	Averted remarkably in Far from Heaven. Roger Ebert notes the great pains the filmmakers took to film it like a movie from 1950s Connecticut, which is an extraordinary accomplishment. note Its themes, values and style faithfully reflect the social melodramas of the 1950s, but it's bolder, and says out loud what those films only hinted at [...] The civil rights revolution predated gay liberation by about 10 years, and you can see that here: The movie doesn't believe Raymond and Cathy have a plausible future together, but there is bittersweet regret that they do not. When Frank meets a young man and falls in love, however, the affair is not ennobled but treated as a matter of motel rooms and furtive meetings. Haynes is pitch-perfect here in noting that homosexuality, in the 1950s, still dared not speak its name. Gender roles are paralyzingly rigid for both men and women: sex is a chore for housewives to giggle at over martinis, and they work hard to maintain an outward appearance of flawlessness and gaiety only to lash out in infinitely subtle ways. White people are generally in favor of some nebulous concept called "equal rights for the Negro" but openly criticize integration. Black people are hardly champions of racial harmony either — when a Black man brings a White woman to a Black establishment for dinner and dancing, the other patrons see it as a violation of their safe space. A doctor gently tells his patient he has a modern view of homosexuality — if you're willing to work hard enough, there's a small chance you can be cured. And there's no scene where people defiantly flaunt their liberal views, and everybody has a change of heart from The Power of Love. The Black love interest decides to put on elephant-sized blinders and simply ignore the way everyone else sees his friendship with a White woman (in the dinner scene everyone is staring at them angrily, making comments, and he smiles and says, "See? This is a welcoming place!") and he and his family end up paying for it dearly.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_9d1bdd88	comment	Terminal Lance takes this trope and runs with it all the way home. The author takes every opportunity to take big steaming dumps on the idea that everything was better in the old days, calling it a romantization of some truly vile aspects of Corps culture like hazings that were indistinguishable from murder attempts, complete disregard for mental health issues and the deep innate hypocrisy of DADT. He holds a special reserve of bile for Clinton-era Marines who insist that the Corps was much tougher in their day.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_a12cd9cf	comment	An episode of Big City Greens has the family at a drive-in theater, with Nancy eager to show Tilly her favorite movie, a comedy about a scientist who gets turned into a monkey, but while theyâ€™re watching it, she realizes itâ€™s a lot more casually sexist than she remembered and fears Tilly will learn all the wrong lessons from it.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_a485ad0f	comment	Similarly, The Angry Video Game Nerd. Though he tends to mostly review things that are already widely considered to be bad for the sake of watching him suffer, they're still almost exclusively old games.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_b30ae4db	comment	Occurs in-universe in Game of Thrones when King Robert fondly reminisces of when he was younger and he was a warrior instead of a king, and Renly calls him out on glorifying a period when the empire was torn apart by civil war and a insane, destructive king. Of course this can come across as very hypocritical of Renly considering he then tries to usurp the throne himself after his brother's death.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_b61bbe0a	comment	Mocked in an episode of Modern Family, where Jay talks about how great things were when he was growing up in the '50s and '60s. His Latina wife Gloria says things were certainly great... unless you were African-American, Hispanic note at least mestizo Hispanic, which Gloria presumably is , gay, or a woman. Jay acknowledges her point and amends his previous statement by saying things really were great... as long as you were a heterosexual Anglo white male, like him.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_b7db5642	comment	Stranger Things serves to highlight some of the biggest fears of the '80s - particularly when Will disappears and his mother is at her wit's end trying to find him with the limited technology of the era. It's also considerably easier for the villains to cover up their dirty deeds than it would be these days. The racist and homophobic insults the school bullies casually throw at the child protagonists also are a reminder of how intolerant the '80s actually were.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_ba56500d	comment	In the same vein, Timeless did not hide the racism and sexism of the past, which popped up fairly often, given that one of the protagonists is black, and the other is a woman. Rufus actually initially refuses to go into the past, pointing out to his Black British boss that there is no time in the American past where his skin color wouldn't be a problem. The only time, where his skin color actually saves the team is when they are captured by a Native American tribe during the French and Indian War, and their chieftess is about to execute Lucy and Wyatt, while letting Rufus go (assuming him to be a slave and thus not free to be there). Rufus's staunch defense of his friends impresses the chieftess enough to release them all.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_c2273334	comment	Planetary subverts this trope at one point; one issue takes them to a funeral for an Expy of John Constantine which is attended by other homages to the Vertigo Comics characters of the 1980s and 1990s. Although Jakita is a passionate champion of them, the Affectionate Parody nature of the scene is pointedly undercut when Elijah bluntly points out that, divorced of their original political and social contexts, they can't help but look a bit ridiculous. Jakita is forced to concede that he has a point.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_c4d37e84	comment	In 11/22/63, Jake Epping's trip into the past leads him through some of the darker and uglier sides of the '50s and '60s, which he reminds himself of every time he starts to romanticize about the era. It gets to the point where he can't stand waiting for Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, finding the city ugly, smelly, racist, and generally miserable. And it turns out the romantic idea he and Al had about saving John F. Kennedy and fixing history's mistakes ultimately proves untrue, as Kennedy's survival results in a truly hellish Bad Future.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_c56465a7	comment	Invoked by Vincent Bennett with younger musicians who have cited various lower-level acts that Vincent either played shows with or was aware of in the early days of The Acacia Strain as long-lost classics, as Vincent has gone on record to state that he couldn't relate to their sentiment, as he never liked those acts or thought they were any good. As far as Vincent is concerned, they may see it as Vindicated by History, while he still sees those acts as third-tier bands that often never went anywhere for a reason.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_c5ead8e8	comment	The movie follows a similar plot structure to Goodfellas, which depicts The '70s as being a time when everything's going pretty well, and The '80s as a really sucky time for everyone. Although even less rosy than Boogie Nights - Goodfellas, after all, deals with The Mafia - the similar structure nevertheless paints The '70s as a time of optimism for its characters, and The '80s as a time when everything came crashing down. In both cases cocaine (and the main characters' increasing addiction to it) plays a strong role in the misery that follows. The '60s are portrayed even more idyllically, with Henry describing it (in almost those exact words) as the Golden Age of Wiseguys. It actually goes as far to deconstruct The '50s as a time marked by postwar trauma.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_d9c602eb	comment	South Park: The episode "Member Berries" has the titular berries, which are talking grapes that spout off about how great something from the past was (primarily Star Wars references) used to help alleviate the stress of today. However, after a while they talk about how great things like how marriage being exclusive to men and women were, or how much they liked the real stormtroopers. It turns out that they're central to Season 20's Story Arc: They intend to use unchecked nostalgia and the Creative Sterility it induces/encourages to convince people to vote for the hideously unqualified Mr. Garrison as the President of the United States in order to ruin the world, a parody of both Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the tendency of mainstream pop culture in The New '10s to be built around adaptations, sequels, remakes, reboots, and Genre Throwbacks instead of fresh concepts due to laziness and greed. However, Season 20 suffered by several rewrites caused by the fact that Parker and Stone based the whole plot on Hillary Clinton's victory, and when that didn't happen several plot threads became irrelevant or went nowhere. The Member Berries' storyline itself was never resolved, and the idea of nostalgia being harmful becomes disconnected from the story or outright hypocritical (for example, the characters ranting on how the new Star Wars films suck becomes moot when the Big Bad's demise is based on Han Solo and Kylo Ren's confrontation in The Force Awakens).
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_dab6270b	comment	Stand by Me serves to deconstruct the wholesome 1950s Everytown, America in the lives of its four child protagonists. Gordie's parents favored his dead brother and his dad secretly wishes he had died instead. Teddy's father likewise is an abusive traumatised World War II veteran, and Chris' father is mentioned to beat him hard.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_e25322af	comment	Homestar Runner has the song "No-stalgia" by Fake Band sloshy, which criticizes the idea of nostalgia in general. Ironically, the music video is chock full of clips showing nostalgic toys from the '80s and '90s, and the black and white portions of the video were shot on a Fisher-Price PXL-2000 video camera, which was first released in 1987.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_ea922658	comment	Played with in Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day; the movie is something of a pastiche of 1930s screwball comedies, and so is set amongst a wide array of glitzy fashion houses and nightclubs and glamorous apartments, with everyone having lots of fun and living it up, and everything's swanky and wonderful... but it's set in 1939, and there's plenty of ominous foreshadowing that World War II is on it's way and about to really shake things up for these people. Furthermore, the titular protagonist starts the movie homeless, and her miserable situation isn't entirely glossed over.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_eb4ecbff	comment	Downplayed by Remember Me, which is a 2010 drama that appears to be a slightly nostalgic look at the early 2000s. But then the lead character dies in the 9/11 attacks.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f10a65b	comment	Legends of Tomorrow tends to be good about addressing racism and sexism in the past. When Martin Stein (an elderly straight white male) tells his companions how great The '50s were, they immediately point out that it wasn't so great if you were black, a woman, or LGBT. Indeed, both Sara and Kendra end up getting treated with the same disrespect most '50s men afforded women. In addition, Kendra and Jax had to deal with the overt racism of that time. Sara did her best to convince a lesbian nurse that there was nothing wrong with her preferring women over men. As for what happens when the Legends travel to the Civil War-era South...
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f2041376	comment	Charmed: The episode "Witchstock" subverts the peace and love aspect of the '60s when Paige gets sent back in time. She meets the younger version of their grandmother, who was once a pacifist hippie. In the past she was betrayed by a fellow hippie friend who got her husband killed. She had to abandon her pacifism in order to protect her loved ones from demons, and become the strict witch who raised her granddaughters to become the Charmed Ones. The episode "Show Ghouls" does likewise with The Gay '90s. When Drake and Phoebe travel back in time, he points out how it was considered The Gilded Age. But the fun and frivolity just provided easy ammo for the demon to attack and trap their souls in a time loop.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f6bc8d0c	comment	Thoroughly deconstructed in Penn & Teller: Bullshit! where over the top nostalgia was presented as being at best misguided (the fans of Leave It to Beaver preferring The '50s to modern life) to actually harmful and an indicator of psychological problems. They show this by having the aforementioned fans meet the man who played Eddie Haskell. They gush about how great the '50s were, and then he reminds them of things like segregation and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f6eed39	comment	A running theme on The Sopranos. Tony often laments that the then current Mafia (late '90s/early '00s) is nothing like it used to be. He imagines the mob in the days of his father (mid to late '70s), picturing loyal mobsters who would never turn state's evidence and instead just take their prison sentences like "real men", as a period where the mob was "honorable" and well respected by the community. Flashbacks indicate that if anything, his father's day was just as bad or even worse.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f6fe1bfc	comment	Sabrina the Teenage Witch has an episode where everyone gets sent back in time to the '60s. She at first loves the peace and love aspect of the era - but then she discovers the blatant sexism of the day when colleges won't accept her because of her gender. She likewise realises how shallow the hippie lifestyle is - Harvey's ambition is simply to travel the country in a van "following the music" after school is over.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f74b5f80	comment	In Babylon 5, Ambassador Lando Mollari of the Centauri Republic begins the series bitter and desperately nostalgic for the days when the Centauri were a glorious imperialistic power that held a decent chunk of the galaxy under their sway instead of a Vestigial Empire increasingly fading into irrelevance. The Centauri get a chance at a return to power thanks to help from a Higher-Tech Species that wants to covertly throw the galaxy into chaos, and as the Centauri rise back to power, Lando gets a front row seat to all the horrors needed to create a "glorious" empire that tend to get glossed over by the history books. This includes the appalling amount of blood spilled in war, attempted genocide, an insane and bloodthirsty emperor who kills and tortures according to his whims, a court made up of ambitious, murderous nobility who would throw their entire race under the bus for their own advancement, horrifying war crimes, and at nearly every step of the way Lando and the people he cares for most suffer or get their lives destroyed. And as a representative of that government, Lando is forced at various points to act as a mouthpiece for the Republic, even when he obviously disagrees with the edicts handed down or wants nothing to do with them.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_f7f16fbc	comment	Explored in Midnight in Paris: Owen Wilson's character is transported back to the 1920s, a time period he idolizes. While there, he meets a woman from that time period, and both of them are transported back even further to the Belle Ã‰poque, which time period she idolizes. The artists there, however, idolize the Renaissance. Owen Wilson realizes that it's better to just make the most of the present than try to live in the past.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_fd77c160	comment	A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints initially looks like a nostalgic Coming of Age Story set in The '80s, opening its flashback with Journey and portraying the Astoria neighbourhood violence as harmless 'kids will be kids' stuff. Then we see what a Wretched Hive it is, with gang warfare leading to the protagonist being assaulted in the street and having his house graffiti'd, his hooligan of a best friend dealing with an abusive father that no one takes notice of, and racism and homophobia being far more casual. The protagonist returning to his home as an adult in the 2000s is marked by a majority of improvements in the area.
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Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be / int_ff2165b	comment	Averted in Cold Case. Many of its cases date back from the early 1900s to the present, and they usually show the mentality and attitudes in those days. From racism, misogyny, or just plain asshole-ness.
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Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Grease (Theatre) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Long Day's Journey Into Night (Theatre) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
People Watching (Web Animation) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Red vs. Blue: The Project Freelancer Saga (Web Animation) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Red vs. Blue: The Shisno Trilogy (Web Animation) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Ask Lovecraft (Web Video) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Drew Gooden (Web Video) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Dumm Comics (Webcomic) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Terminal Lance (Webcomic) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be
Inside Job (2021) / int_9e07f1f8	type	Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be

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