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The nostalgia filter is the tendency to view the media created in one's younger years as better than anything to come along afterward. In the words of Sam Viviano, the longtime art director for MAD: "MAD was at its best whenever you first started reading it." A corollary to this notion holds that if you never liked MAD to begin with, that's because it was at its best shortly before whenever you started reading it. The most impressionable time is during one's pre-adolescent, adolescent, and teenage years. These are the years where everything seems new and exciting, where one is young and undistracted (or less distracted) by the responsibilities of adulthood and the burdens of getting older. Additionally, for boys, it might be the years where although they had discovered girls, "getting laid" (or even getting girls to give them the time of day) was not a realistic aspect for many of them, thus they had a form of escapism.note This especially applies to nerds. And although no boys or girls should be sexually active at those ages, they could still at least "make out". Apart from schoolwork, they simply can afford time to absorb the pop culture or cult genre of the era. People's tastes are influenced by the media they grew up with. This is most notable when Values Dissonance comes into play: Modern day art may positively depict contemporary societal norms that would have been frowned on years before. Conversely, tastes often change as someone ages: what may have seemed brilliant to a child or teen would seem crude or laughable to most adults, but the memories of how great something from one's youth was seem to linger. And if a person's preference is for something that is out of fashion right now, they may have little choice besides "hang onto the older version" or "give up on it completely" if the form or genre is considered "dead". It may also be due to Sturgeon's Law combined with the passage of time: as new media is released, the vast majority will be mediocre or worse, but over time, a powerful selection pressure causes all but the best (and in some infamous cases, worst) material from an earlier era to be largely forgotten, leaving an increasingly inaccurate impression of its overall quality. Of course, this is not to imply that newer is automatically better, or that the Nostalgia Filter applies in every single case. Sometimes the older work is better, or at least has its own appeal that the present stuff doesn't – even beyond "charm", which is often thrown around to describe older stuff mostly just to mean, "It's nostalgia-inducing." You'll notice that this trope sometimes overlaps with the Periphery Hatedom. Almost always, when people complain about how new stuff sucks, they bring up examples of things which were marketed towards the youth of their own generation as examples of "good" or even "classic" works in the genre. Never mind that 20 years ago, when it was being marketed towards them, many adults were saying the exact same thing. While adults abusing the Nostalgia Filter has become a bit of a cliché (particularly in media aimed at teens and/or preteens), there are many Real Life adults (of various ages) who enjoy both old and new media in equal measures. This is especially true for those who are socially active and hang around a diverse group of people. However, one thing is for certain: Those who abuse it or abuse the concept of it tend to be very vocal about it. See also Growing Up Sucks, Nothing but Hits, They Don't Make Them Like They Used To, Nostalgia Ain't Like It Used to Be, Vindicated by History, and Appeal to Tradition. Another reason for this trope is that True Art Is Ancient. Contrast Condemned by History and They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. Disco Dan can be what happens when someone puts the Filter on and refuses to take it off to the extent that they act like they're still living in their favourite time period. In-Universe Examples Only. Pretty much any genre or form is subjected to this in Real Life, so such examples aren't really necessary. Plus, they're very prone to age stereotyping, which we don't want on this page. |
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Several American sitcoms are set in a rose colored idea of two decades ago: Happy Days was a 1970s sitcoms about The '50s, The Wonder Years a 1980s sitcom about The '60s and That '70s Show a 1990s sitcom about The '70s. These shows concentrate more on the fashions and pop culture of those decades than on the Real Life problems that were current then. That '70s Show is something of a subversion. While the other series showed life in those past eras as simpler and with more innocence (to a degree), That '70s Show highlighted youthful rebellion, job loss, divorce and other such delightful topics. Unlike the other sitcoms, which implied some things but showed us nothing, That '70s Show openly stated that the teens were having sex, drinking and smoking pot. |
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Similar to the above, this trope has also been discussed by some gaming commentators regarding the HD version of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. When footage of the HD version was first released, some gamers complained that the new version barely looked any different from the 2006 original. Then when comparison videos were released showing that there is a pretty big difference in areas such as texture quality, lighting, shadows, anti-aliasing, and the HD version runs at a native resolution much higher than the original's 480p, people began to realize the "issue" is more that the HD version simply looks like how people remembered the 2006 original. | |
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In Stand Clear of the Closing Doors, Ricky overhears a person on the subway declaring his intention to vote for Romney due to his nostalgia for The '80s, when things were cheaper. | |
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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony has the eponymous Tony Prince, an aging, flamboyantly gay nightclub entrepreneur who grew up back when LGBTQ+ rights were still on the fringes of social discourse. In one scene, he longs for the days when most young gay men were runaways and exiles from a disapproving middle America who were lost in the big city and easier to seduce, and claims that gay culture has lost its touch now that growing numbers of gay men are settling down, getting married, raising kids, and becoming "normal". | |
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In Parking (1985), Hades is fed up with the Underworld's modernization and the resulting computer errors, and also laments that Persephone isn't as fond of him as she used to be. Later, Persephone admits she made a mistake by marrying Hades, hinting she was unhappy in the past as well. | |
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Given a quick jab in the ribs from The Oblongs, as Wide-Eyed Idealist Bob wonders fitfully about his children being sold drugs. | |
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Viz has a running joke about how it "isn't as funny as it used to be". | |
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"These Are the Days of Our Lives" by Queen puts a more positive spin on the trope: the old days were great, but hey, the present is pretty good too. | |
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Last Clear Chance: The 1959 driver's education film, focusing on railroad crossing safety, includes a short segment where the main character, Trooper Hal Jackson, talks about the early days of automobles and highway motoring. Included were people, each wearing turn-of-the-century fashions, demonstrating a Model T Ford, a tandem bicycle and a horse-drawn buggy ... all which Jackson explains were not just showpieces at an old-timers festival but – as the movie was produced in the late 1950s – well within the lifetimes of many people alive at the time, and he noted how idyllic that era was. The movie itself becomes an unintentional one: Plenty of 1950s-era cars aside, the two-lane U.S. and state highway system was still the dominant mode of long-distance travel (although Jackson does refer to the then-new Interstate Highway System); railroad technology, such as wigwag signals (vs. modern lights and gates); the still undeveloped rural scenery; and agriculture still being the dominant industry in rural America (with such businesses often being by far the largest employer of a rural community). |
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In The Satyricon, published some time in the 1st century AD (and in the very, very strange Fellini movie), the poet Agamemnon complains about the failing quality of contemporary literature and poetry, compared to the good old days, making this at least Older Than Feudalism. | |
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BoJack Horseman: Deconstruction. BoJack Horseman perception and remembrance of the '90s does involve a few embellishments, often being held by BoJack as the peak of his career and life. However, as the first season begins and progresses, it becomes all too clear that even then, he was far from happy, stable and mature; something that has carried on toward his middle age in the present with the problem of it all being something within himself. As of the end of season 2, his rose tinted version of this early part of his life has been shattered as well, with BoJack realizing that his young adulthood was in some part self-denial at his increasingly clear issues. It only get worse in season 3 when Sarah Lynn's death and the misfortunes he faces forever taint his memory of the show, to the point of running out of the set of Ethan Around after one of his co-stars mentions how she wants to be famous, reminding him of Sarah Lynn's destroyed life. | |
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The Whiteboard: Sent up in the paintball domain here and in the next strip, comparing paintballing in the past to that in the present. | |
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That '70s Show is something of a subversion. While the other series showed life in those past eras as simpler and with more innocence (to a degree), That '70s Show highlighted youthful rebellion, job loss, divorce and other such delightful topics. Unlike the other sitcoms, which implied some things but showed us nothing, That '70s Show openly stated that the teens were having sex, drinking and smoking pot. | |
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Donkey Kong Country: Cranky Kong is this. Three-fourths of the time, he's grumping on how better much games were back in his day, and how overrated our current gaming features are. Not to say he hasn't good reason to be bitter; he's supposed to be the the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game. | |
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It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: Dennis and Dee take a trip to the Jersey Shore because they have fond memories of visiting there during their childhood years. When they arrive, they are subjected to a series of painful and terrifying experiences that completely shatter their previous conceptions of the Jersey Shore. It was eventually revealed that Dennis was nowhere near as popular in high school as he made himself out to be. Also used in the Christmas special with Charlie and Mac. The two fondly tell each other about their favourite Christmas traditions from their childhood, but after the other hears about it they realize that they aren't in any way near as positive as they remembered: Mac's family stole Christmas gifts from other homes, while Charlie is horrified to realize that his mom was a whore who had sex with a bunch of men (poorly) dressed up like Santa. |
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Invoked in Assassin's Creed Syndicate. When Shaun finds out the team are visiting London in 1868, he is ecstatic at the thought of being able to taste real London beers from the time before everything was taken over by soulless macrobreweries and brewing became a Lowest Common Denominator industry. However, he quickly comes to the realization that beer brewed before modern brewery advances (in 1868 single-strain yeast cultivation was still only doable in labs, and wouldn't become commercially viable for another decade, to start), food safety legislation, and industrial process controls is pretty universally terrible. Shaun laments that all the beers he gets to sample have "side notes of sturgeon and the dark tears of a recently divorced ploughman" and wonders if the team are trolling him by reprogramming Helix to mess up his taste impressions. | |
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The Happy Video Game Nerd: Averted and/or subverted; HVGN proves that there really is some stuff in the past that is really good, some of it just got passed over. Played straight in his reviews of Mega Man 9 and 10. He acknowledges that he rated 9 — which helped kick off the recent Retraux trend — as highly as he did partly for this specific reason. Now that "all that's old is new again" is getting...well, old again, he was able to take off his nostalgia-tinted lenses for 10. He does stand by his original review for 9, though, and cites other reasons why 10 is a weaker game. | |
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The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers had a mid-70s story where Fat Freddy is raving over how great the 1950s were. He fondly recalls a New Years teen party that we see from Phineas's perspective - everyone converges at his parents' house over his objections, people get stupid drunk, he and Franklin get beaten up by hoods who crash the party, and the house and family car end up destroyed just before the parents get home. | |
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In "The End of the Pier Show", a group of World War II veterans in The '70s have used the psychic powers of one of their wives to create a bubble where it's still The '40s. Richard Jeperson, a Holocaust survivor, is horrified by their belief that you can bring back the Stiff Upper Lip, Dig for Victory attitude without getting the Nazis as well. | |
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Toyed with in the Justice League story "Legends", in which Hawkgirl and Green Lantern meet a pastiche of the Justice Society of America. The story is all about the fondly remembered "Golden Age", but also includes casual sexism and racism. It also hints at the fear and panic felt in regard to nuclear annihilation. Furthermore, it turns out that the heroes are all actually psychic manifestations of the original team, who died protecting the people from a nuclear attack. A boy who got mutated with psychic powers was forcing everyone to live like how it was before the attack, given a painful explanation. However, the team still proceed to go and save people to give them a future, at the cost of their own lives, just like the original. John himself lampshades it why he feels mourning for it, with Hawkgirl commenting that it was because they were heroes. | |
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Likewise, Grand Theft Auto V has the song "I Like Things Just the Way They Are" by Samantha Muldoon, who performs it during her appearance on Blaine County Talk Radio. It's a Deconstructive Parody of the use of this trope in contemporary (late '00s/early '10s) Country Music, with its idealization of small-town Americana barely concealing a vicious streak of reactionary politics, naked bigotry, and militant Christian nationalism, heavily implying that the real reason the singer is nostalgic for the 'good old days' (or at least, pretending to be for the sake of shamelessly pandering to her audiencenote Samantha, who was portrayed as a parody of Madonna in GTA IV, is strongly implied to have reinvented herself as a right-wing country artist purely for the sake of appealing to the older white demographic that "doesn't save money and buys all kinds of superfluous stuff and doesn't have a clue what downloading is.") is because it was a time when it was okay to openly bash and discriminate against ethnic, sexual, and religious minorities. | |
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Downplayed with Cameron in Jessica. Cameron gets comfort from battling the Kanto Elite Four with his Pokémon Yellow team, but he still finds other Pokémon games fun. | |
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Avenue Q: "I Wish I Could Go Back to College" is this combined with Growing Up Sucks. | |
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The show Mad Men does a lot to show how with all the awesome music and fashions of the '60s came rampant sexism, racism, and homophobia, and how the values of the previous decade held over and were difficult to dismantle. Considering how saturated the culture was (and still is) with '60s nostalgia when the show first debuted, it was exactly what the doctor ordered. The show invokes nostalgia during Don Draper's best pitch ever, rebranding Kodak's slide projector as The Carousel. |
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In his review of Truth or Dare (2018), he decides to look up the cast members to see if they were famous for anything, as he was pushing forty and was out of the loop on teen culture. He was surprised to learn that they made a TV adaptation of Teen Wolf (Truth or Dare starred one of that show's lead actors, Tyler Posey), a movie that he thought sucked, and used that film as proof that younger generations shouldn't always listen to people like him when they tell them that everything made in The '80s was golden. | |
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Community - Britta rents out the 50s-theme diner she works at for the gang to throw a Pulp Fiction theme birthday party for Abed. When Abed doesn't show and time drags on, the owner points out that it's cutting into prime time for nostalgia-themed diners - after the evening news when frightened customers seek "the comforting foods and soothing music of a pre-racial America". | |
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Invoked in the "Reagan's Brain" strips in Doonesbury, where Ronald Reagan is said to suffer from "a severe perceptual disorder within the (visual) cortex," so that "instead of looking forward through clear eyes, Reagan is only able to see backwards through a rose-colored mist." | |
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Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal: "Pop music peaked at the exact moment I was most emotionally vulnerable to trite love song." | |
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Averted with Pokémon Strangled Red. While the narrator really wanted to finally play Pokémon Red, he's impressed with the "improvements" he finds in the hacked game instead. | |
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By the end of the Prequel Red Dead Redemption 2 , John Marston can barely stand to be around his mentor, Dutch Van Der Linde and was convinced he was Evil All Along but managed to hide it. However during the events of the first game that takes place twelve years later, Red Dead Redemption , he holds fondness for him and thinks he genuinely changed post-Sanity Slippage. It’s unclear if this is something intentional or if it’s something that came from them working backward and not having hammered out the events of his downfall before the first game that just simply works within the narrative. | |
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Cracked has done multiple articles about this trope. "5 Complaints About Modern Life (That Are Statistically B.S.)," in which it's noted that complaints about the rising cost of living don't account for rising wages (though this one has become potentially discredited since while they both rise, it says nothing at the same rate,) that there was just as much Lowest Common Denominator pablum in pop culture then as there is now (the writer explicitly compares The Three Stooges to the cast of Jackass), that the '50s had way more processed food than we do now, that crime rates have plunged since the '80s, and that our memory of the '60s and '70s as a golden age for pop music obscures all the now-forgotten crap that actually topped the charts back then (and that a lot of acts that are now classic were dismissed at the time). "4 Bullshit Complaints About Modern Rap Music." Things like party rap, trend-hopping, and mediocre rappers getting airplay have always been around in rap music, even during The Golden Age of Hip Hop and the era of Gangsta Rap. |
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In Calvin and Hobbes Calvin's dad often complains to Calvin or his wife about how everything was better back in the day and how evil modern technology is. Calvin hates this, and once says that he is "a 21st century kid stuck in a 19th century family." In one strip, Calvin's dad bores him with a long, rambling monologue on how modern escalators lack the character of their forebears. | |
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Tom the Dancing Bug advanced a theory that popular culture was at its height when you, the reader, were twelve years old. | |
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Brexit: The Uncivil War: Dominick Cummings states that people have a rose-colored impression of what the past was like, so this is why he frames the exit of Britain from the EU as a return to the way things used to be rather than a new change. This is fully realized when he amends the Leave party's slogan from "Take Control" to "Take Back Control." | |
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Randy and Cassidy in The Wrestler believe that the '80s were the golden age of rock music thanks to bands like Guns N' Roses, Ratt, and Def Leppard, and that grunge was the downfall of rock, the two of them calling Kurt Cobain a pussy who didn't know how to have a good time. This scene only highlights the problems that Randy and Cassidy face, the two of them both being stuck in the past (Randy being a washed-up pro wrestler and Cassidy an aging stripper) and unable to face the modern world. | |
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Supernatural: When he and Dean are planning to confront Satan and The Grim Reaper, Sam asks if Dean remembers how "simple" things were back when they just hunted Wendigos. Dean replies: "Not really". | |
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Runaways (2017) has Geoffrey often talking of his past as a gangster in glowing terms on how "we were brothers who lived by a code." Wife Catherine calls him out on how they were just dealing drugs for money and that the entire reason they met was Geoffrey pulling a coup on his boss. | |
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Homicide: Life on the Street: While Bayliss and Pembleton head out to the home of a murder victim's family to tell them about her death, Bayliss reflects that the world has gotten increasingly violent and waxes rhapsodic about how the 1950s were a much more peaceful and idyllic time, citing shows like I Love Lucy and The Dick Van Dyke Show as evidence. Pembleton sets him straight. | |
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In Time and Again, Si Morley does his best to consider the ways in which life in New York in 1882 was inequitable and harsh... but after he goes back to the present (1970), he becomes overwhelmed by a preference for the lifestyle and people of 1882. Even though he's well aware of what working conditions are like for ordinary people, and his reason for returning was to escape from corrupt policemen who have not heard of Miranda rights... | |
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Definitively summed up in the Discworld novel The Last Continent. Ponder Stibbons knows that the answer to any suggestion of his will be “You don’t get proper fill-in-nouns these days—remember old ‘nickname’ ancient-wizard-who-died-fifty-years-ago-who-Ponder-wouldn’t-possibly-be-able-to-remember? Now there was a chap who knew his fill-in-nouns.â€� | |
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Mocked in the Portlandia episode "Take Back MTV", where Spyke and Iris try to take over MTV and return it to its Glory Days before it turned into a tween-oriented reality TV network, hiring the real Kurt Loder, Tabitha Soren, and Matt Pinfield to storm MTV headquarters. As it turns out, there isn't much of a market for a channel devoted to aging Gen-Xers reliving their Glory Days, and people soon start tuning out. | |
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When the dimension-hopping antics of Sequinox land the girls in a 1950's-themed world in episode 10, Shannon describes it as the 50s that the 80s remember, with no racism or bigotry and only the aesthetic remaining. | |
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"Baggy Trousers" (from Absolutely) and "Our House" (from The Rise & Fall) are both nostalgic songs by Madness about their school boy days and living with their family at home. Despite being sentimental, they are also comical since they depict the children as having all kinds of hijinks and misbehaving. | |
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War and Peace (1972): In the final episode, Old Countess Rostov laments about the good old days before Napoleon changed/ruined everything. | |
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Josh of The Geek Critique dedicates his 2022 re-review of Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble! to discussing this trope, admitting that the original 2015 video was rooted in it, as he hated the game as a child and wrote most of that script before even playing the game assuming he'd feel the same way as an adult. Towards the end of his far more positive second look at the game, he spends some time critiquing that old video directly, highlighting all the segments where he seemed to deliberately miss the point or fail to realize very obvious things in an attempt to justify his childhood distaste for the title. | |
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In Golf Story, the grumpy old golfers of Tidy Park have this going on. They reminisce about playing for leisure over the more modern concept of playing for a low score ("a tidy six is better than a messy four") and require members to use vintage clubs any time they're on the property. | |
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In Castle Hangnail, the ghost Edward remarks that modern politics, with its Prime Ministers and Parliamentarians, isn't as good as it was back when he was alive, when you got rulers like Mad King Harold, who believed he was a cuttlefish and tried to wage a war on the clouds. He stands by this even after Majordomo reminds him that it was Mad King Harold who cut Edward's head off. | |
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Penny Arcade summed it up pretty well in one strip. "It's the job of young people to make things which old people despise. It's the job of old people to denigrate the work of the young. That is the system. Someday, we will hate them ourselves." | |
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The Twilight Zone (1959): "The Incredible World of Horace Ford" has a toy designer who keeps lapsing into daydreams of his idyllic childhood while ignoring his slowly collapsing present. In the end, it turns out he was repressing the memory of the day the other kids beat him up because they weren't invited to his birthday party, and he's forced to come to grips with the brutal truth that his childhood wasn't nearly the fairyland he wanted to believe it was. The Season 1 episode, "Walking Distance", had an advertising executive in Manhattan go back to the small town of his youth to relive parts of his childhood. While his childhood is shown as having been a happy time, his father tells him that it doesn't have to be the best time of his life and he can be equally happy with his current life in New York. In the comical episode "Once Upon A Time" Buster Keaton plays a janitor to a scientist in 1890 who uses a time-machine helmet to travel to a more peaceful, less hectic time - and ends up in the much worse (1960) present. He encounters a scientist who wishes to go back to the good old days of 1890, where they both end up back in. The janitor is glad to be back, but within a week the scientist laments the lack of all the amenities he knew. In "Of Late I Think Of Cliffordville", a Corrupt Corporate Executive makes a Deal with the Devil to go back in time and re-live the fun of making his fortune. The lovely Cliffordville from his memories is not nearly as nice in reality, however, and the girl he always reminisced over is much less attractive and charming also. The Devil he made the deal with mocks him for indulging in this trope after he accuses her of altering the past, telling him that the past is exactly how it was — it's his own fault for not remembering it right. |
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The Twilight Zone (1985): In "Time and Teresa Golowitz", Bluestone fondly remembers Mary Ellen Cosgrove as having a perfectly formed body at 16, a cross between Betty Grable and Wonder Woman. When he is sent back to October 1948, however, he finds that her body is less polished than he remembers it being. He admits to the Prince of Darkness that he can't go through with his plan to have sex with her as it would make him feel like a child molester. In "The Girl I Married", Ira and Valerie Richman are both concerned that they have sold out and abandoned all of the dreams and the ideals that they had as hippies in The '60s. Each of them wishes that the other was still the person that they married. After they are visited by the spirits of their hippie selves, however, they realize that they still love each other and their lives are far from over. They also find their younger selves more than a little irritating. Although they have matured from their hippie days of LSD and driving around in a van, Ira and Valerie still want to make the world a better place in their own way. "The Last Defender of Camelot" has Lancelot still alive in modern times thanks to Merlin's magic. When he learns Merlin is still alive, he's eager to help, citing how much of a friend the man was. Morgan Le Fay snaps that Lancelot only remembers the romantic version of Camelot and not how dark it was or the sinister moves Merlin used to get his own way. When he finds Merlin ready to sacrifice an innocent teenager to gain the power to "set the world right," Lancelot is forced to admit Morgan was right and he's let time warp his memories of Camelot being much brighter than it was. |
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Grand Theft Auto: Grand Theft Auto IV: The Ballad of Gay Tony has the eponymous Tony Prince, an aging, flamboyantly gay nightclub entrepreneur who grew up back when LGBTQ+ rights were still on the fringes of social discourse. In one scene, he longs for the days when most young gay men were runaways and exiles from a disapproving middle America who were lost in the big city and easier to seduce, and claims that gay culture has lost its touch now that growing numbers of gay men are settling down, getting married, raising kids, and becoming "normal". Likewise, Grand Theft Auto V has the song "I Like Things Just the Way They Are" by Samantha Muldoon, who performs it during her appearance on Blaine County Talk Radio. It's a Deconstructive Parody of the use of this trope in contemporary (late '00s/early '10s) Country Music, with its idealization of small-town Americana barely concealing a vicious streak of reactionary politics, naked bigotry, and militant Christian nationalism, heavily implying that the real reason the singer is nostalgic for the 'good old days' (or at least, pretending to be for the sake of shamelessly pandering to her audiencenote Samantha, who was portrayed as a parody of Madonna in GTA IV, is strongly implied to have reinvented herself as a right-wing country artist purely for the sake of appealing to the older white demographic that "doesn't save money and buys all kinds of superfluous stuff and doesn't have a clue what downloading is.") is because it was a time when it was okay to openly bash and discriminate against ethnic, sexual, and religious minorities. |
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"Things We Said Today" from A Hard Day's Night and "In My Life" from Rubber Soul are The Beatles songs who are both an example as well as an subversion. They look nostalgically back at now from the viewpoint of the future. | |
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One episode of American Dad! features a CIA holodeck machine that scans the memories of people and projects them into the holodeck. The machine has a literal nostalgia filter. When Stan revisits his childhood with the filter on, it's bright, warm, comforting, and his dad is a nice person. Turned off, the place is a dump and his father is cruel, as it really was (not that Stan is bothered by it). | |
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Shadows over Meridian: The Guards are so miserable being mistreated by the victorious rebels and being afraid that they'll be imprisoned for their past loyalties that they wonder if they did the right thing turning against Phobos. When a reviewer asked the authors how they could think that when Tynar said they were miserable under Phobos' rule, the authors responded that while they might have been miserable before, they now have to sleep with one eye open while living under the threat of rumors that they'll be replaced and imprisoned, which makes them wonder if things were really so bad beforehand. | |
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The Nostalgia Critic: His job is showing the world that the '80s and early '90s had their fair share of utterly terrible shows and movies, as you can guess by his name. The Nostalgia Filter attitude was also mocked in the end of his Pokémon: The First Movie review, where after spending a good portion of the review complaining about the weirdness of the premise, comes to the realization that popular eighties cartoons like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Care Bears (1980s) had pretty ridiculous premises themselves before shouting "THOSE WERE THE DAYS!". In a video where he watches the first few episodes of the '80s Ninja Turtles cartoon, he's forced to admit that the whole thing is kind of dumb, but that doesn't make it any less fun. When reviewing Follow That Bird, Doug eventually breaks down and says he can't bear to criticize a movie he has such fond memories for. So he gives the job to his character Chester A. Bum. The episode "The Dark Age of Film" is all about tearing apart nostalgia for '90s blockbusters. He refers to the second half of the '90s as a low point for the Summer Blockbuster, with many films stuffed with overblown spectacle and abuse of the new technology of CGI, at the expense of plot and characters (which often amounted to annoying nerd stereotypes fighting for survival against Stuff Blowing Up). In his opinion, this is a big part of the reason why films like Face/Off, The Mask of Zorro, and the first Men in Black are so fondly remembered — they were among the few legitimately good, clever, and creative summer action movies to come out in that era, standing out that much more in the sea of suck around them. He's baffled that anybody could be nostalgic for this era, arguing that, as many problems as blockbuster filmmaking may have today, we should be grateful that it doesn't suck as badly as it did back then. |
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In Auction Kings, Paul loves the 1980s. Jon loves old toys. Neither of them are knowledgeable enough to bypass calling an expert when items of the appropriate era show up though. | |
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This sort of thing is also skewed by RebelTaxi in this video. | |
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Robert Heinlein's Time Enough for Love dives headlong into this one, as it's the story of Lazarus Long, the oldest member of the human race, telling stories to "youngsters" attempting to convince him to get another rejuvenation treatment instead of letting his body die. While he flirts with it during his stories of being enslaved, of begging for money until he could become a priest of a religion he didn't believe in, of almost dying in the wilderness countless times, it isn't until the latter part of the book that he gets the opportunity to go back to the past - back to the 1910s, when he was a small child. He's giddy as can be as he enjoys his time in a world of casual bigotry and judgmentalism... and then gets his ass shot off fighting in the trenches during World War I. This being Lazarus Long, he got better. | |
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The Outlaws shows conservative political groups and certain Freikorps fighters, especially officers, trying to bring the good old German Empire back. The younger generation, including the hero, aims at a nationalist revolution and radical change of Germany, although in a different way than the moderate Left and the Communists. | |
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"Remember when /b/ was good?" "/b/ was never good." For those who don't speak internet; the imageboard /b/, the source of most memes, is full of people who have matured to the point where the rather immature, gross-out and horrible humor of /b/ no longer amuses them, and complain about the new users, claiming that they are the "cancer that is killing /b/." | |
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Galaxy of Fear: Big plot hinge in "The Hunger", the series' last book. Due to nostalgia, the now-grown children of a doomed exploration team don't realize what a desperation move by their parents feeding them meat from the corpses of the deceased members of the team was. Thanks to the nostalgia filter, they view human meat as a cherished childhood dish. It takes a Force-induced restore and replay of the log record to show them the truth. | |
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The 61-year-old Reinhardt in Overwatch is not particularly fond of 2070's "techno music", and tries to get younger folks like his fellow Hero Lucio to listen to "the classics" such as David Hasselhoff. | |
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The Rolling Stone magazine article: "The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time." Written in 2004, it included only 3 songs from the 2000s and a truly massive number from the 1960s and early '70s, roughly coinciding with the rise of the magazine itself. Probably 400 or so of those songs (and their artists) were regularly panned by the magazine when they were the Top 40 of the day. This is to say nothing of the fact that only a small fraction of the songs are from before the 60s. | |
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In Haunted Mansion and the Hatbox Ghost, the Hatbox Ghost has a gigantic nostalgia filter on about any changes made to the Haunted Mansion ride since 1969. If we were listening to him, the souvenir records of the ride would still be vinyles, you know. | |
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Good Bye, Lenin! plays with this for the old East Germany (the phenomenon known more broadly as ''Ostalgie''). The whole idea revolves around the main character, Alex, trying to pretend to his mother (who was in a coma and missed the fall of the Berlin Wall) that Communism still exists and there is no re-unification process going on, to the point of creating fake news broadcasts and putting capitalist products in old-style communist-brand packaging. Many of the older supporting characters (who have ended up losing their jobs and security) find the environment to be something of a refuge from the changes happening around them, and Alex himself begins to become almost nostalgic, not necessarily for the real East Germany (he is seen protesting in the beginning of the film) but for the country that could have been, and the ideals it claimed to represent. The film itself is careful to show the good and bad sides of both capitalism and communism (or at least, the former's absurdity). | |
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Continuum has an in-universe Fantastic Drug Retrevinol or "Flash", first appearing in episode 'Second Thoughts', that causes hallucinogenic flashbacks to pleasant past experiences that are far more satisfying than was the actual event being remembered, meaning the drug "cannot be trusted". | |
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Memorably discussed in the Jake and Amir episode "Facebook Redesign," which reveals that Amir has complained about every single Facebook redesign with the same claim that the layout was "perfect" before the change. | |
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Defied in Mass Effect 2. When Shepard asks Joker if he misses how things were in the first game, he's quick to point out that those only seem like "the good old days" in retrospect. | |
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The Nanny: "Material Fran" ends with Fran and Maxwell going with Maggie to a Stone Temple Pilots concert, finding STP's music too harsh for their liking. | |
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CatDog: Deconstruction. In the episode "Back to School", Cat is looking forward to attending his high school reunion and dancing with his old crush Sally. He describes himself as popular and having a great time in high school. Even in the beginning of the episode something is fishy, with all of the memorabilia and rewards he claimed were his really belonging to Dog, and their diploma having Dog's name but not Cat's. He tells Dog that they need to correct it by visiting their old high school. The brothers visit Rancid the school principal about the diploma, and it is revealed Cat never attended the last day of school so for him to have the diploma and be able to attend the reunion dance, he must go back to school for one day. Cat is happy to relive his glory days, but wonders why he can't remember his last day at school. But throughout the day things just keep going wrong with him while Dog is popular - three of Cat's new classmates are the relatives of the Greasers who make him miserable, his crush Sally is indifferent to him, and after class when he asks her to dance with him at the reunion, she coldly tells him that she has a boyfriend and makes it clear that she does not like him. At lunch both the cool kids and nerds refuse to let Cat sit with them, and then a food fight break out and Cat gets blamed for it. Finally at gym he is humiliated by Cliff, who is the teacher and Sally's boyfriend, who brings Sally there to watch his humiliation. As the kids laugh at Cat and call him a loser, his repressed memories come back and he realize the truth - Cat was an outcast and all of his positive memories of school were Dog's, and at the last day of school he was humiliated at gym by Cliff's father Coach Feltbottom, the gym teacher at the time, where he and all the other kids call him a loser, which made Cat run away and block out his memory of the day. And because Cat blocked out his memory of that day and chose to remember things differently, he set himself up for more humiliation in this episode. | |
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The Gleaners and I: The locals in the cafe talk about what gleaning used to be like and that it's a dying art. | |
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In Loxare Hinder, a combination of Never Speak Ill of the Dead and guilt over not being a good brother to Jason led Dick to reimagine the second Robin as a bit of Too Good for This Sinful Earth. Meeting Red Hood in all his scum-slaying vigilante glory made for a rude awakening. | |
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In the Gundamn! podcast's segment on The Transformers: The Movie, they mention that most of the fanbase's regard for Transformers: Generation 1 really comes from the movie, rather than the TV series, which was pretty formulaic. ("What stupid plan will Megatron come up with to steal more Energon cubes? How will Starscream try to betray Megatron and fail yet again?") | |
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Phineas and Ferb: Phineas reflects on the little kiddie rides outside of the mall, leading to an exciting scene of young Phineas flying into space and shooting lasers off with Ferb. Cut to him riding it in reality... | |
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In Snow White & the Huntsman, when William starts talking about how he used to follow Snow White everywhere and she inspired him, Snow White remembers it quite differently and mentions how they used to fight a lot. In actuality, this was the first clue that it's not the real William but Ravenna in disguise. | |
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The enemy Nostradamus from Final Fantasy: Unlimited uses this as a weapon. It is a radio tower that sends out energy waves, trapping people in their happiest memories of the past while constantly announcing "Nothing beats the good old days!". The hero Kaze becomes trapped in the memories of his homeland Windia with his sister. The illusion is broken when the character Moogle reminds him what happened after his happy memories- his homeland was destroyed and his sister died. | |
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Played with in the "Talisman" arc of Finder. Marcie Grosvenor spends years trying to find a children's book that her mother's on-off boyfriend read to her regularly when she was a little girl. When she eventually finds it she discovers that it's complete rubbish... and then she realises that it's not just Nostalgia Filter, it's that the guy who read it to her, who came from a culture which placed great value on oration and oral storytelling, was improvising almost everything and using the book simply to get prompts from. She ends up feeling oddly betrayed by him over this. | |
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The Nostalgia Filter attitude was also mocked in the end of his Pokémon: The First Movie review, where after spending a good portion of the review complaining about the weirdness of the premise, comes to the realization that popular eighties cartoons like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Alvin and the Chipmunks, and Care Bears (1980s) had pretty ridiculous premises themselves before shouting "THOSE WERE THE DAYS!". | |
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Mocked many times by The Onion. A cantankerous old man writes the editorial: "In My Day, Ballplayers Were For Shit" "Area Man Always Nostalgic For Four Years Ago" "10 Things That Will Make You SUPER Nostalgic for The '90s" is a 2013 slideshow of real photos of all the great times/things of the era — starting with Rwandan genocide corpses and going on to Columbine, the Oklahoma City bombing, Somalian refugees, etc. (Plus, for some reason, Alan Alda!) There's also "Grandfather Seems Proud of How Many People Polio Killed. |
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This attitude is called out in one episode of The Real Ghostbusters, where Ray is talking about how the fifties were a much simpler time. Egon points out that there's no inherent proof of that, as each decade has its own individual challenges. | |
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This is the whole reason behind the existence of Shovel Knight. It's a Retraux game that borrows liberally from what are widely considered to be among the best games ever on the Nintendo Entertainment System. | |
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The British series That'll Teach 'Em is about 30 modern teenagers attending a simulated 50s and 60s school setting. The narrator favorably compares education of the 50s to that of modern times, saying that modern schools lack discipline and are too easy. Lord Tebbit, a conservative politician who visits the school during Series 1, is also of the opinion education went downhill. Some of teachers themselves avert this when speaking to the camera, as they openly discuss the flaws of past education, while admitting modern education gives students more chance to think for themselves, as opposed to cramming facts and figures. | |
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This trope is played with in Recess, when Vince apparently does not notice that his brother (who was revered by Vince's peers around his age) was a stereotypical nerd, remembering instead how "cool" he used to be. The other kids later realize that it only made sense since no 'cool' older kid would ever have willingly played with them when they were younger. Vince does not notice this until it's spelt out for him. He does come to terms with it quickly though. When the bully Vince stopped brought his older brother, Vince's brother comes in to save Vince. Turns out he's the other kid's tutor and threatening to quit is enough kowtow the bully's older brother into compliance. |
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In Animorphs there is an in-universe example: at the end of the series, Marco sees the years he spent fighting Yeerks as the "good old days". He remembers life-and-death battles as "cool, rock 'em sock 'em battles". He doesn't really seem to remember how much they scared the crap out of him at the time. But then, it's said that Marco has a much easier time adjusting to civilian life than the others, because he doesn't feel guilty about the things he's done. | |
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A common device in Revolutionary Girl Utena. The first we get is Miki, who yearns to return to his childhood, when he and his sister were musical prodigies. In truth, his sister was a poor piano player and he was the real prodigy. The second is Utena herself, when we find out that her childhood wasn't as fairy tale-ish as we're led to believe. The third is Souji Mikage, the second arc's antagonist, who longs to return to the past when he lived happily with the Chida family. | |
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In Back to the Future Part III, Doc Brown goes on about how the Old West in the 1880s is his favorite time period, but after a Hideous Hangover Cure due to drinking a single shot of whiskey, he mentions how much he misses Tylenol in 1985. | |
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Daria once called a guy Jane was dating out on this. Another example occurs when Jake finds some old home movies from back when he was a kid and is eager to see them despite Helen's failed attempts at reminding him that his childhood wasn't that great. The truth comes rushing back to him once he watches them however. Helen later lampshaded this tendency in Is It College Yet. |
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Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials & Tribulations. Victor Kudo, a grumpy-beyond-reason old man. He constantly laments the old days and how everything was better and how he hates all the new gadgets and all their fancy names. Feels all the more awkward considering he occasionally rants about "the old bushido values of Japan" among all things, while localization made the setting clearly American. | |
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In the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Space Seed", the crew revives a 21st-century dictator named Khan Noonien Singh. Kirk, Scotty, and Bones practically fanboy over him, speaking with much admiration about how he was the best of the warlords, because he wasn't as brutal as the rest, and he had a respect for culture and knowledge. Spock tries to remind them that they're still talking about a totalitarian autocrat and that "did not commit quite as many atrocities" is really not a basis for such praise. They brush him off until, surprise surprise, Khan and his superhuman followers (and a traitorous lieutenant) take over the ship and treat the crew brutally. | |
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In The Ref, Caroline has this for the days when she and her husband Lloyd were a young couple living in New York, and she'll go on and on about it, especially when she's had enough to drink. Towards the end of the movie he finally calls her out on this, her Self-Serving Memory, and blaming him for everything that has gone wrong their lives since. | |
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The Archie comic "Nostalgia Gets Ya!" plays this trope obnoxiously straight, talking about how much better life was back in The Gay '90s when policemen were always treated with respect, women were put on pedestals, and nobody worried about pollution. | |
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The podcast '80s All Over was created by critics Drew McWeeny and Scott Weinberg partially as a response to this trope getting in the way of genuine discussion and analysis of cinema of The '80s, noting that only about 35-40 films of the decade they grew up in were regularly celebrated/revived. The format has them look at the decade month by month, revisiting every major and most of the minor U.S. film releases that came out and seeing "what worked then, what endures now" (as the intro puts it). As they track the trends and styles that rose and fell over the decade, they freely admit that for all the movies that have aged well — famous hits, ones that were big in the day but have not entered Small Reference Pools, and ones that just flew under the radar — there are plenty that haven't (they've noted more than once that they're dreading having to revisit Top Gun, and have a grudge against most of the teen sex comedies of the era for their morally abhorrent lead characters and alarming treatment of women), and take the time to put their success or lack thereof into the larger socio-political context of the decade. | |
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In Hot Tub Time Machine, at first Adam can't remember why he broke up with his old girlfriend, Jenny, and because he only recalls good things about her he believes that he made a huge mistake by dumping her. Once we actually meet her in the past and find out how shallow and crazy she is, it's not hard to see why Adam dumped her. But he was still unhappy with the whole situation. | |
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NewsRadio: Parodied when Bill fondly reminisces about his childhood while actually describing some pretty horrific childhood abuse, like when he lost a football game and his mother declared the family gained a daughter and dressed him as a girl. Good times according to Bill. | |
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Jersey Boys: Bob Gaudio's narration segment about the band's rise to fame makes it seem like everything was smooth sailing until the end of Act One when Tommy DeVito's gambling problems are revealed. However, when Nick Massi takes over at the beginning of Act Two, he reveals that several incidents caused tension to build up in the group long before that happened. | |
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In NIMONA, at one point when Friendly Enemies Goldenloin and Ballister are talking together, Goldenloin waxes nostalgic for their younger days. Ballister, who is much less naive and remembers clearly that in their younger days they were orphans who taken in by The Institution, a group that secretly controls the Kingdom's government and which raised the two of them to be soldiers for the group before turning them against each other, is pretty blunt in shooting down Goldenloin's nostalgia. | |
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Hadriex seems to revel in old games like "Simon's Quest," but every once in awhile he admits that one of his favorite childhood games isn't actually very good. | |
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Best Served Cold: Discussed. When a notary claims that "mercenaries aren't like they used to be," the mercenary Nicomo Cosca counters that it's only natural for people to mistake the past as better than the present because they were younger and more idealistic. Some people get better and others get worse, but the world stays the same. | |
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Toyed with in an issue of The Brave and the Bold dealing with Brother Power. The character fondly reminisces about how much "better" everything was in the 60s and 70s, before remembering the violence, racial unrest, and turmoil of the era. | |
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A Christmas Story, with its nostalgia for old toys, radio programs, music, Christmas decorations and still believing in Santa Claus. But while it had all the great holiday memories, it didn't leave out the anger, disillusionment, disappointment, frustration, humiliation and other crappy things about being a kid at Christmas that most movies filter out. | |
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As far as Jim Cornette is concerned, Professional Wrestling is dead, dead, dead, and will never have the legitimacy it had in the days of Bill Watts and Jim Crockett. Furthermore, guys like Kenny Omega are a disgrace to the business and would have been blackballed and/or beaten up back in his day. | |
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Invoked in Code Geass, with a drug called Refrain, that causes one to experience hallucinogenic flashbacks to past pleasant experiences. Naturally, it's quite popular among the oppressed Japanese. | |
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England from Hetalia: Axis Powers has a tight pair on when it comes to his days as an empire. Especially with America. England is often moping about how America was so cute and obedient when he was a child under his rule, unlike the brash and rude country he's grown up to be. Then we see flashbacks of adorable little colony America yelling "go to hell, Engwand!". | |
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The Bible alludes to this at Ecclesiastes 7:10, making this Older Than Dirt. | |
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The Nostalgia Chick does this too, just with girly movies and the occasional male-geek-adored Cult Classic like Dune (1984) and The Transformers: The Movie. She also did a video on how Disney built its brand around cuddly, feel-good nostalgia and historical revisionism, and how the film Saving Mr. Banks explored this. | |
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The Fairly OddParents!: In "Odd, Odd West", Timmy's dad constantly speaks of his fond childhood memories of spending time in the Old West town of Dimmsdale Flats, and Timmy goes through the trouble of making sure it doesn't get torn down for his dad's sake. However, actually being there again makes Timmy's dad realize how much his childhood sucked and he sells the place to the developers for a few bucks. In another episode, in when Timmy and his dad were cleaning their attic, Timmy finds his dad's tiny box of dreams. He picks it up and it breaks. Timmy's dad was OK with it though, because his dreams were crushed many years ago. In "The Good Ol' Days", Mr. Turner gets his dad to babysit Timmy. Within the episode, Timmy's Grandpappy complains that things in the present aren't as good as things he grew up with. Among his complaints is how much more expensive candy is, Chip Skylark III being inferior to the original, and modern cartoons being more lame than ones from the 1930's. After watching a Popeye parody, Timmy agrees with that last one, and has his godparents transport him and Grandpappy into an Inkblot Cartoon Style world. |
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"Mon Enfance" by Jacques Brel looks back at his childhood and how the illusions were destroyed by World War Two. "Rosa Rosa Rosa" is a more playful song about his school days as a young boy. Same title, different song "Mon Enfance" by Barbara, is about her revisiting the house where she grew up as a kid and her ambivalent feelings about it, including the text "the war threw us out there, we lived as outlaws and I loved that, when I think about it...", and by the end stating that the memories from the childhood are the worst, because they hurt us. |
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The opening theme for All in the Family has Archie and Edith singing about how ideal their childhood was. Thing is, they both grew up during the Great Depression. | |
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One of the demons in The Screwtape Letters has set up the Patient's mother for perpetual disappointment this way — nothing is ever quite as good as she remembers — with the added bonus that she doesn't realize how entitled she is and thinks her demands are reasonable and humble. Screwtape himself laments that they used to get really tasty sinners to devour, but now everyone is just mediocre and bland. | |
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Saturday Night Live: Dana Carvey's recurring Weekend Update character, the Grumpy Old Man, parodies this by being nostalgic for the bad things about the past, such as having no water filters, no air conditioning, no improved technology, and no Christmas Caroling. | |
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Game of Thrones: King Robert is fond of reminiscing about the good old days, before he was king. In "A Golden Crown", his brother Renly eventually gets sick of this and asks him exactly which days he's talking about — the time when the entire country was plunged into a bloody civil war, the time when Aerys roasted people alive because of the voices in his head, or the time when dragons went around burning villages to the ground. This is somewhat subverted, in that Robert was a Blood Knight who really did find the earlier era of war and destruction more to his liking, and was frustrated by years of peace. Ironically, after his death, Renly proceeds to contribute to a war by attempting to usurp the throne. In "The Queen's Justice", Daenerys Targaryen nostalgically reminds Jon Snow, who refuses to bend the knee to her, that Westeros was better off when it was ruled by House Targaryen, with House Stark as its loyal vassal, for centuries. Except those centuries were filled with civil wars, rebellions, and mad kings (including Daenerys' own father). At least she has the courtesy to apologize for the crimes her father committed against House Stark, though she remains adamant that a Targaryen must return to the Iron Throne. |
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Help!: "Help", thinking about "when I was younger, so much younger than today. I never needed anybody's help in any way". | |
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Gorkamorka: A line says that orks sell their craptastic first gun as soon as they can to buy a better one. Once they get older and better equipped, seeing younger orks running around with their own craptastic shootas make them briefly nostalgic. | |
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FoxTrot featured a storyline where Andy (as part of her newspaper job) is asked to help pick a comic strip to be cancelled. Roger gets upset that her choice is "Captain Goofball", a comic he loved when he was younger, but Andy proves her point by bringing out a month's worth of strips and showing that the comic hasn't been funny in a long time. She argues that they should give the kids reading the comics today the chance to find a strip that means as much to them as "Goofball" meant to Roger, but he still ends the storyline saddened by the loss. Also done unintentionally with the Steve Jobs tribute comic, where Jason wistfully pulls the family's iFruit out of storage. Long-time readers may recall that when they first got the iFruit, Jason outright despised it and took a very long time to warm up to it (though author Bill Amend was a Mac fan from Day One). |
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Lampshaded in a comic strip of Zits where the Duncans take a trip to a cabin where Walt went when he was younger. Jeremy hates it, but Walt, for some reason, has all these pleasant memories of the place. Yet, Jeremy finds a tree into which Walt had carved, "I hate this %^@&% Dump!!" and Walt mentions, "Wow, time has a way of blurring things, doesn't it?" In another strip, Walt gets angry at a song Jeremy is listening to, resulting in this exchange: |
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Fairy Tail: Subverted where the titular guildhall, a simple two-story pub, gets demolished by an enemy guild and renovated into a much bigger, more lavish building. Natsu, a guild member by six years, is the only one put off by all the changes made (though the English dub has Natsu admitting he's not good with change)—now there's a stage, an outdoor pool, a rec room, and the guy who destroyed the old guildhall is now a member (though most of the guild agreed with Natsu on this)—but once a huge Bar Brawl breaks out like it normally would, he quickly feels right at home. | |
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Hired!: Warren thinks salesmen were more invested in sales in his time as a saleman himself. His dad scoffs at this, saying that the only reason his son sold more was that he had better guidance than Warren himself is giving. | |
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Kikai Sentai Zenkaiger: Monster of the Week Retro Wald is able to weaponize this. After he turns the world into a Retro Universe, he can cause people to pine for the better times of the good ol' days so hard that they turn morose and sluggish to the point of inaction. This includes the Kikainoid Zenkaigers, who are able to break out of this mindset by remembering that their old days under the villainous Tozitend Dynasty actually sucked eggs. | |
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Averted by Luke Spencer of Rocked in his Regretting the Past series, where he looks back on terrible yet successful rock and metal albums from the past in order to spotlight some of the terrible trends in rock from yesteryear. The late '90s and early '00s especially are painted as a rough time for the genre, a time when it seemed as though the biggest bands were driven primarily by wangst, meatheaded aggression, and "rebel" posturing to the point that it obscured whatever genuine talent some of their members had, all while Fred Durst wielded a frightening amount of power as a rock and metal tastemaker. | |
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"Summer of '69" by Bryan Adams could be considered to use this in response to the Glory Days trope, though it doesn't look back at 1969 as much, never mind the sexually position of the same name, done in that wonderful summer. Also "Boys of Summer" by Don Henley. Though in that one the singer acknowledges his foolishness becase "those days are gone forever, I should just let 'em go": |
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Weaponized in Warhammer. Dwarf Longbeards are, well old dwarves who've Seen It All, and "always grumble about how today's Goblins are smaller and weedier than they used to be, and how nothing is as well made today as it was in their days". Dwarves near them do their best not to fail Leadership tests lest it set off another round of Grumpy Old Man complaining. | |
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On an episode of Welcome To Nightvale, guest host Leonard Burton hates that anything has changed from the way things used to be, including the sun moving in the sky. | |
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In his book How Music Works: The Science and Psychology of Beautiful Sounds, from Beethoven to the Beatles and Beyond, composer John Powell (How to Train Your Dragon, Chicken Run, etc.) puts down the idea that vinyl/record music somehow sounds better than CDs almost entirely to this, stating that "Much of the CD/vinyl debate can probably be attributed to technology nostalgia, which dates back to cave-dwellers having heated arguments about the superiority of bronze arrow heads compared with the newfangled iron ones." He points to a study of 160 enthusiasts of either CDs or vinyl, in which only 4 could accurately and reliably identify which they were listening to. He notes that with this study having been done back in 1993 (the book was published in 2010), further improvements in technology have made it even more impossible to tell the difference. | |
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"The Green, Green Grass of Home," with two popular versions – country, by Porter Wagoner, and pop by Tom Jones – abounding. The song begins with a picturesque homecoming, obviously after a long time away, with a man stepping off a train and being welcomed by his family and his girlfriend, Mary ("hair of gold and lips like cherry"). The young man walks through his hometown, and it hasn't changed a bit ... even the old oak tree he used to play on is still there, majestic in its glory. It sounds too good to be true ... because it is. The scene suddenly takes a dark turn as the man awakens from what's to be his final night in bed ... he was only dreaming, and he's staring at four dank, dark gray walls. He's in prison and awaiting execution at dawn ("For there's a guard, and there's a sad old padre/Arm in arm, we'll walk at daybreak"). That he'll be laid to rest beneath that green, green grass of home gives him little comfort in his final hours. | |
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How the Doctor chooses to remember the Time Lords in the new series of Doctor Who. Of course, viewers of the original series know they weren't sweetness and light, and when they do turn up for a moment in the new series, it's clear the Time War disimproved them. Such that the Doctor takes up a gun immediately upon realizing their return. Though "The Day of the Doctor" seems to show that most of the Time Lords weren't actually bad, just the leaders like Rassilon. Furthermore, Time Lords in particular refer to the upper class rather than the entire Gallifreyan race in certain contexts. Other times, The Doctor does seem to miss more Gallifrey itself at time. | |
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They lobbied the exact same comment at the Wii virtual console rerelease of Cruis'n USA, arguing that it was "never a good game" despite what this trope might suggest. | |
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Todd in the Shadows: His One-Hit Wonderland episode on "Monster Mash" by Bobby "Boris" Pickett opens with him discussing the song in the context of pop and rock music in the early '60s, which he describes as one of its darkest and most "phenomenally stupid" periods from a quality standpoint. It was a time when pop was caught in a twilight zone between the heyday of edgy '50s Rock & Roll and that of Beatlemania, psychedelia, and free love, one in which rock had been taken over by sanitized Teen Idols and stripped of its Rebellious Spirit while novelty songs and dance crazes dominated the charts. In his Trainwreckords episode on Ringo Starr's 1977 album Ringo the 4th, he argued that this trope was a large part of the reason for the disco genre's reevaluation in the 2010s and the decline of the Disco Sucks trope. He acknowledges that there was a lot of reactionary culture war politics and outright bigotry involved in the anti-disco backlash of the late '70s and early '80s, which younger generations are right to point out when they focus on disco's roots in marginalized communities... but at the same time, disco really had gotten extremely overexposed by 1979, and most of the bad disco songs from back then, particularly the ones churned out by trend-chasing white rock musicians (like Ringo) and a record industry that saw the genre as their cash cow, have been forgotten in favor of a winnowed playlist of a few dozen stone-cold classic disco songs. |
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Defied by Hercule Poirot in Curtain. When he reunites with his old friend, Hastings, the latter began to reminisce about the good times of his youth, until Poirot reminded him that the old times weren't as all good and jolly as Hastings remembered it to be. | |
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Something of a running theme throughout The Wire, During season 2 which focuses on the dockworkers, "Ain't never gonna be what it was" is said so often that it's the arc words. In some respects, they are right, in that it was better when the factories and shipyards were still open and employing people, but their reminiscing of the "good old days" also includes horrific working conditions and violence between labor strikers and management. Calvin "Cheese" Wagstaff makes a good case against nostalgia and shames the other druglords for lacking enough cash despite dealing in a captive market. "We're selling coke and dope in B-more. Any of y'all ain't got that kind of money need to be ashamed. [...] There ain't no back in the day! There ain't no nostalgia to this shit here." |
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BattleTech: The Star League, a Fictional United Nations of sorts which has been long dead for 300 years, had numerous secret civil wars between the founding Great Houses, and waged wars of aggression against the independent Periphery states, bringing them under the Star League's heel in brutal wars with numerous atrocities committed. After an Evil Chancellor usurped power and inadvertently sparked 300 years of total war and the subsequent devastation of the technological base, everyone not in the Periphery looks fondly upon the old days of the united peace of the Star League. The leaders of the Successor States all long to become the First Lord of a reborn Star League. | |
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A common story on Fantasy Island is a guest wanting to relive a period in history they have romanticized. Nine times out of ten, they swiftly discover "the good old days" are not what they imagined. Mr. Roarke notes how the Old West is a popular fantasy and scores of would-be cowboys find out how harsh that time was. Sometimes subverted as a guest will realize they fit into this past period much better than the present and/or have fallen in love with someone there. They'll thus accept Roarke's offer to become a "permanent resident" to stay there. |
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Not Invented Here: Desmond feels like a kid again when his first computer is mailed to him by his uncle Lou. He snaps out of it when Geordi mentions every remaining computer of that model working together would roughly equal the computing power of one iPhone, but use way more electricity. | |
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In Star Trek: Generations, Picard and the Enterprise command crew are holding a promotion ceremony for Worf on a holodeck version of HMS Enterprise. Picard gets all nostalgic for the age of Wooden Ships and Iron Men. The ever-practical Riker, on the other hand... | |
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Night in the Woods is set in the Dying Town of Possum Springs, which used to make most of its money off the mines, which have long since closed, leaving many of the residents broke and the old mom and pop shops to get squeezed out by huge chains. Many of the older residents reminisce about the good ol' days, when everyone had a job and things weren't so dire. However, learning more about the town's history makes it obvious that, as bad as things currently are, the good ol' days weren't all that good, either; the mines were dangerous, the workers were exploited and underpaid, and the town itself is built on hostile terrain that resulted in many deaths. The Cult of the Black Goat justifies their Human Sacrifice by saying it'll restore the town to its former glory. Bea asks them, point-blank, if any of them ever actually worked in the mines. Unsurprisingly, none of them have. | |
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"As Time Goes By", made famous by the film Casablanca looks back on the memories of a love from long ago. | |
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Top Gear did an episode where James May finally got to drive the Lamborghini Countach that had adorned his bedroom wall back in the day and found out that it was a truly awful car. | |
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Toy Dolls: "Back in '79" is a lament dedicated to all the bad's old friends from the punk scene in The '70s, who are now staid pillars of the same establishment they once railed against. | |
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In The Sandman (1989), there's a scene in the 1480s in which the immortal Hob Gadling, now about 130 or so, overhears an old man complaining about these newfangled chimneys and reminiscing about the days when "we did have a good honest brazier in the house", when nobody suffered from "rheumes and cattarhs" and the smoke was "good medicine for the man and his family". Hob mutters to Dream about how foolish the old man is, and how back then everyone was coughing and wheezing from the smoke, and occasionally you'd find whole families that had asphyxiated in the night. In the book's final volume (wherein he's several hundred years old), he attacks people nostalgic for times when they weren't even alive by criticizing the very concept of a Renaissance Faire. | |
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South Park: In "You're Getting Old", as soon as Stan turns ten, he ends up hearing and seeing all the "new and hip" stuff around him to be "shitty," ranging from tracks from band called "Tween Wave" featuring nothing but funky beats with fart sounds in the background to seeing turds in movie trailers and in various parts of the town. A doctor explains that changing tastes are normally just part of getting older, but something's gone wrong and it's causing Stan to see everything as shit, even things older people normally enjoy. ("It's a disorder we call 'being a cynical asshole'.") It completely alienates him from his friends. In the second part to this episode, he has to resort to taking alcohol in order to stop seeing things as shit. Also makes up the plot of "4th Grade". After moving up a grade in class, the boys dislike it and wish they could still be in the 3rd grade instead as things were so much better back then. At the very end, Kyle realizes that it's a load of bull and they hated the 3rd grade just as much as the 4th. Also briefly mocked in "Osama bin Laden Has Farty Pants", the first episode produced after the tragedies of September 11th, 2001. It opens with the boys at the bus stop wearing gas masks. Kyle remarks, "Remember when life used to be simple and cool?" To which Cartman replies, "... Not really." The Season 20 Story Arc is a giant commentary on this very subject. One part of the season's Big Bad Ensemble, the member berries, are talking grapes that constantly reminisce about nostalgic things (especially nostalgic pop culture), and they invoke a sense of euphoria in whomever consumes them thanks to this nostalgia. However, the moment the berries suddenly begin to say things like "'member when there weren't so many immigrants in this country?" and "'member when marriage was just between a man and a woman?", Randy Marsh, who had been eating the berries, suddenly stops and goes "what the hell is up with these berries?", showing that not all nostalgia is inherently good, as, similar to the Grand Theft Auto V example above, some people's idea of the "good old days" are the days when open prejudice against certain people was considered socially acceptable. Member berries have also been made into wine and may be responsible for Gerald's massive Took a Level in Jerkass. This parodies the Creative Sterility that overtook popular culture in The New '10s, with most popular mainstream entertainment being adaptations, sequels, reboots, remakes, and Genre Throwbacks instead of fresh concepts. |
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Stand by Me is nostalgic, but presents gritty truths as well. After all, the kids are out to find a stranger's dead body. Oh, and the main character's parents ignore him, and his older brother had been recently killed. Also, all four boys smoke. At age twelve. | |
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Eddie Felton in The Color of Money has this in regards to the present-day popularity of nine ball pool, which he thinks is simpler, faster, and easier than the straight pool he used to play. | |
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Honest Trailers' Take That! on Michael Bay's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) ends with the narrator fighting with a young kid on the quality of the movie. When the kid suggests that the turtles weren't as good in his time, the narrator snaps back that they were. Cut to an incredibly campy scene from 1991's The Secret of the Ooze. | |
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer: "Welcome to the Hellmouth" has Principal Flutie give an enthusiastic speech to Buffy about how when he was her age, students had genuine school spirit instead of being cynical slackers like today. He then sheepishly admits that, "of course, when I was your age, I was surrounded by a bunch of old guys telling me how great things were when they were my age..." It's clear that several vampires who knew Angel before he regained his soul have this attitude towards Angelus, fondly remembering the guy as one of the most legendary and creative evildoers of all time, but forgetting how much of a Jerkass he was even to his fellow demons. In Season 1, the Master openly admits to missing Angelus, though flashbacks on Angel show that they didn't get along at all, with Angelus lacking the Master's grand visions for world destruction in favor of petty hedonistic sadism. Spike spends much of Season 2 wishing for Angelus's return, but when it actually happens, he immediately regrets this, as Angelus steals his girlfriend and spends half the season mocking him for the injuries that have confined him to a wheelchair, with Spike eventually teaming up with Buffy to stop Angelus from destroying the world since he actually likes the world the way it is. In "Him", Buffy, Willow, Anya and Dawn come under a Love Spell. Xander has a Flashback Cut to a horde of spell-crazed women trying to murder him and Cordelia in Season 2's "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered". Cut back to Xander sighing happily. "Good times." Averted with Willow in "The Killer in Me". |
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Candle Cove starts out playing this trope straight, but then we learn about all the gory details. | |
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In Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse, Sam comes across a bucket of fish from the original Lucasarts game Hit The Road and fondly remembers how much simpler things were back then. Max quips that things were a LOT more complicated back then. | |
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Pitchfork of Socks Make People Sexy is quite guilty of this; tasked with doing a Final Fantasy Retrospective, he started with declaring his blind admiration for classics and then to...well, let's just say that Final Fantasy XIII didn't help. At all. | |
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Troy Steele of Blogger Beware cited this trope in his review of Earth Geeks Must Go!, the penultimate book in the Goosebumps 2000 collection, as the reason why his reviews of the original-series Goosebumps books weren't as mean as he could've made them. In that particular review, Troy outright states that he felt "nostalgic glee" in reviewing the classic books, and that, while he does hate a few of them, he loved them as a child and used that love to prevent his reviews from being too cruel. In fact, he even explains that part of the reason the 2000 reviews got progressively meaner is because he didn't read them as a kid and didn't develop the same appreciation for them. | |
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Inverted with Miho in Necessary to Win. As a result of the circumstances of her departure from her old school, Black Forest, she initially only has less than fond memories of that school, and of tankery in general. However, in the course of telling her story to her friends, she starts to realize that she had some good times there, and made some friends. She also comes to the realization that she never disliked tankery, but merely the Nishizumi approach to it. | |
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Tremors 4: The Legend Begins: Pyong is constantly making comments about how certain dangers and misfortunes weren't present back in China, with her husband disputing this. However, near the end of the movie, she claims that she was the one to talk him into leaving China in the first place and doesn't really want to go back, implying that she doesn't mean it when she makes homesick comments. | |
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TV Guide compiled a list of the greatest TV shows in history. It was revealed later that the hardest decision they had was which of two shows should be named #1: I Love Lucy or Seinfeld. They decided go with Seinfeld. The decision was met with quite a lot of backlash (too Jewish, postmodern and/or cynical?). | |
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Invoked in Three Men in a Boat: The narrator muses on the Victorian fascination with antique items with no real value apart from being old, and wonders if, in the 20th and 21st centuries, people will adore commonplace knick-knacks from Victorian England and display them in museums, with Japanese tourists lining up to buy them and take them home as precious antiquities. Almost prophetic... | |
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SMBC Theater: "Cavemen" — as pointed out, nostalgia has been a staple of humanity since before it was humanity: | |
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On Frasier, the title character and his brother Niles go to a comic book convention to find that a theatre actor they admired when they were young is now acting on a science fiction series. They try to get him back into theatre, only for his performance to be not quite up to par. They later find a videotape of his stage performances to give him inspiration, but they watch it first and discover he was just as terrible back then. Niles reasons that they were too young back then to realize his performance was bad and they grew up never knowing otherwise. | |
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This trope was deconstructed by Penn and Teller in the Penn & Teller: Bullshit! episode "The Good 'Ol Days". They make a point in the episode about part of what causes this. They show several politicians who cite different decades as a time when things were simpler than they are now. Penn Jillette then asks, what did all these different time periods have in common? The person talking about them was a child at the time. Things seemed simpler when you were a kid. | |
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In The Sopranos, a common theme is various gangsters missing the good old days, when the Mafia had more power, men were more honorable and acted like "the strong, silent type". The flashbacks we see make it clear that men like Johnny Boy and Junior were as bad, probably worse, than the current generation. | |
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Bennett the Sage Discussed this in his Anime Abandon Videos. He feels that Anime was at its best in the nineties, but also at its worst, which is where a good backbone of the show comes from. | |
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In The Extinction Parade, the narrator describes the Emergency and the 1969 race riots in Malaysia through such a lens. They sucked for humans, obviously, but for vampires like her and Laila, they were a buffet, as the backdrop of war and civil unrest made it easy to get away with murder. | |
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Cold Case was every bit as brutal as Mad Men, but spanned a lot more eras. Often, the murderer was sympathetic, and the attitudes about race, gender, and sexuality were the real villains. | |
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Star Trek: The Next Generation: The episode "Relics" has Picard and Scotty drinking together and reminiscing about their first starships (The Stargazer and the original Enterprise, respectively). Both bask in nostalgia for the earlier days and fondness of the old times, but Picard admits that the Stargazer is, in every aspect, inferior to the Enterprise-D, and Scotty eventually gets disgusted with himself for getting so hung-up on the past, realizing it's time he moved on. | |
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