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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions	comment	One way to show how "advanced" a society is in Science Fiction or certain kinds of fantasy works is to show that it's given up religion. A society may consider religion backward and primitive, consider it a dangerous tool for controlling the populace, or have discovered it was a Scam Religion. Such societies are often contrasted in the same work with more "primitive" societies which are still religious to some degree; these are usually portrayed as harmless fanatics, often of a Fantasy Counterpart Religion. This is a difficult trope to write about well, and many who use it fall into Author Tracts. Part of this is because of the demographics of science fiction writers; especially in the "Golden Age" of sci-fi, empiricists and secular humanists were particularly attracted to the genre. A common variation of this trope sees the "advanced" society show the "primitive" society the error of its ways and prove that The Presents Were Never from Santa. Since then, sci-fi has become more mainstream (and the militant atheist a more annoying character), so this trope's usage has become more nuanced. Nowadays, you might find a society that discovered it was worshipping advanced technology or Sufficiently Advanced Aliens. You might even see the inverse, where an atheistic society discovers for whatever reason that it kind of needed silly superstition to function, or even the God or gods they worshiped being proven true. Yet other works might keep the future society's atheism, but treat it less sympathetically as part of a dystopian tyrannical regime's oppressive ideology. In such cases, it's not the people who have actually stopped believing — although this is the version you'll get from the government's shills among the academics and in the controlled media — but the Secret Police who harass anyone who isn't a good atheist. Such a society is probably based at least in part on the State Atheism of the real-life Communist states, and may be as Anvilicious as the original version of the trope in its own way. Very often paired with an Alternative Calendar, since the one we use today is strongly influenced by Christianity. Societies will then choose a new "year zero", which will often coincide with a major scientific breakthrough — the moon landing is among the most popular. In real life, a milder example is the increased usage of Common Era (CE) and Before the Common Era (BCE) over the traditional anno Domini (AD) and before Christ (BC). Compare What We Now Know to Be True and No Such Thing as Space Jesus. Contrast Gravity Is Only a Theory, Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane, and Science Is Wrong. See also Religion Rant Song. For a particular type of aversion, see Religious Robot and Robot Religion. The individual-scale version of this trope is the Hollywood Atheist.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_1520783f	comment	The War of the Masters: Earthborn humans tend to be atheist and at least one character remarks that "we don't believe in God on Earth in the 25th century". To which a Denali responds, "That's okay, He believes in you". In this vein, humans from worlds other than Earth tend to be more commonly religiously inclined, and it's noted that the Bajorans, who are members of the Federation but tend to dislike Earth specifically, feel some kinship to them for this: in "Sound The Alarm", Kanril Eleya is particularly infuriated to see Orion slave raiders have murdered an Episcopal priestess and burned her church. Moab III in particular has a large Orthodox Jewish population, having been settled originally by (among other things) Israelis who were displaced by the destruction of Israel in World War III, and Elizabeth Tran at one point criticizes what she sees as the conversion of the Holy Land to something resembling a theme park of "what we used to believe". In Looking Into Enemy Eyes, a Bajoran in the USS George Hammond's science department offers an interpretation of Klingon misotheism that stems from the Apocalypse How inflicted by the H'urq invasion. He suggests that the Klingons symbolically "killed" their gods by ceasing to worship them in favor of venerating the mortal heroes who actually defeated the H'urq. During one of the Courtroom Episodes on Bajor in Create Your Own Fate, Eleya mentions watching the face of the Federation's lawyer to see what he thinks of the court session opening with a public prayer, narrating that "separation of church and state is a hazy thing for us" (This is something that would never happen in a real-life US court, never mind a Federation court). In Myrmidons, a Moabite officer says she believes in God but doesn't believe He answers prayers, only judges you when you die.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_179e4fcf	comment	"The Mayors": Mayor Salvor Hardin's Scam Religion is an inverted example; he turns science into a religion of complicated rituals in order to make it palatable to the conquered Four Kingdoms. It's later used (increasingly unsuccessfully) to try and convert new systems to the Foundation's rule, and more or less abandoned after "The Merchant Princes".
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_19505f68	comment	Used but mostly averted in Startopia. An entire race, the Zedem monks, have converted to the same religion, and only two of the game's nine races don't pop into a temple occasionally. The only exceptions are the hedonistic sirens and the scientific Turakken.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2118f380	comment	Awkward Zombie: In one comic where several characters are having a heated debate over their religious differences, Fox — the only one from a Science Fiction space age setting rather than a High Fantasy world — drops in to mock the whole concept of religion. Then Palutena walks in...
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2250e67e	comment	In one episode of Star Trek: Enterprise, Phlox mentions that while on Earth, he sampled a number of Earth religions, visiting a Buddhist monastery and attending mass in St. Peter's Square. When asked about his own beliefs, Archer states that he prefers to keep an open mind. The episode "Cold Front" involves the crew playing host to a group of alien religious pilgrims, who are portrayed in a positive light. However, a later episode, "Chosen Realm", deals with an alien race who worship the creators of the Delphic Expanse. Having examined the inside of one of the anomaly-creating spheres and discovering nothing more than extremely advanced technology, the crew of the Enterprise are understandably skeptical about this religion, but the episode is more about religious extremism than religion itself (the episode ends with the Enterprise finding the alien homeworld in ruins). However, the reveal that the two religious groups differ only in how many days it took to create the Delphic Expanse makes others see the conflict as ridiculous.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_24515144	comment	Foundation (1951): "The Mayors": Mayor Salvor Hardin's Scam Religion is an inverted example; he turns science into a religion of complicated rituals in order to make it palatable to the conquered Four Kingdoms. It's later used (increasingly unsuccessfully) to try and convert new systems to the Foundation's rule, and more or less abandoned after "The Merchant Princes". "The Merchant Princes": The religion created by Salvor Hardin (in "The Mayors") to make Foundation technology palatable to the Four Kingdoms has been ridiculously unsuccessful at converting new systems to the Foundation's rule. Master Trader Hober Mallow realizes that the time for rule by religion is over and now it is time for rule by capitalism.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2593d5ed	comment	In 3001: The Final Odyssey, the Earth of the titular year has long since abandoned religion. It's said that everyone is either a theist or a deist, as defined: the theists say there's at least one god, and the deists say there's at most one god.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2594ce60	comment	Deus Ex: Invisible War is a subversion. According to its backstory, the aftermath of Deus Ex led to The Collapse, in which most people had their faith shaken to the point this trope almost did abandon religion. Then The Order popped up, uniting all of the old faiths into one syncretic philosophy. Later, however, it's revealed that The Order is just a front for The Illuminati, and it's part of their method of controlling polar opposites of society.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2a139e05	comment	The Orville: Seth MacFarlane has never made it a secret about how he views religion (see Family Guy below). Add the show's Star Trek flavor of humanism, and it's no shock that this trope is heavily in play. Discussed in regard to the Krill, as unlike most advanced civilizations, they have increased in religiosity rather than decreasing. Their religion teaches that other species are soulless abominations lacking in true intelligence and sentience, more akin to animals than people, going so far as to use captive humans as sacrifices. Later they explain that species have been observed as having two reactions to finding other life and going into space. One is becoming humble, and no longer thinking they were the center of the universe. The other is doubling down, becoming very xenophobic. Obviously, the Krill did that. Ed mentions that they were more peaceful before, and it's possible that they also had a more passive interpretation of their religion. Seems to be the way for society in general as by the 29th century, as "You can go to hell" is a complete non sequitur. The Chief Engineer still exclaims "Oh my God" after a crewmember is badly hurt. Alara also uses this phrase, and she is an alien. Of course, for most even now that's just an expression. The society influenced by Kelly during its Bronze Age eventually grows out of religious fundamentalism and embraces reason. Not only that, but they eventually achieve The Singularity and become akin to gods themselves: immortal and able to manipulate reality. Humans appear to no longer have believers in astrology, as when dealing with the Regorians (with a belief system that's entirely based on it) in "All the World is a Birthday Cake", some must have the basic concept explained. They also hope that, due to their efforts, the Regorians will outgrow their belief too (which is basically the religion there). However, in the episode "If the Stars Should Appear", Ed says "Hi, I'm Captain Ed Mercer of the Jehovah's Witnesses". Even though it's a joke, it could imply that the Witnesses still exist, so humanity might not have completely outgrown religion. It's likely, however, that he was just referencing the past for the joke.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2a842e3a	comment	The Doctor Who Expanded Universe book Night of the Humans is essentially one long rant about how awful and evil every single religion is. The Doctor responds to a crash-landed alien race on a massive pile of space-junk that is threatening a nearby planet. This interesting premise is quickly and completely overshadowed by the book's message. The chosen "god" of the crashed humans turns out to be a creepy, creepy, clown called Gobo.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2a9edae	comment	A sketch on The Kids in the Hall featured a futuristic society that celebrated Bellini Day, in which the characters referred to a time period where humankind was so stupid they actually believed in someone named God.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2acb12c5	comment	The X-Universe's religious leanings are described in the X-Encyclopedia. About half the Argon consider themselves "spiritual" but don't believe in any particular deity, while most of the rest are atheists. But since they believe in tolerance, the Argon place no stigma on being religious. The Boron have no organized religion and no omnipotent or creator deities, but some believe that after death they will live on in the presence cloud of the Ancients. Averted with the theocratic Paranids, whose religion permeates every aspect of their lives. The Split are the straightest example, viewing their old religions as primitive superstition. No word on the Teladi or Terrans.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2ae406c1	comment	Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri: The Lord's Believers faction averts this trope very, very strongly. The University of Planet faction is the ideological antithesis of the Lord's Believers game mechanic-wise, but the faction leader Prokhor Zakharov is especially into this trope, as a number of quotes from him for technological advances reveal. According to the prequel short stories, he and Miriam Godwinson (the Lord's Believers faction leader) do not get along well, even back on the UNS Unity. It is important to note that as you get further into the game, Sister Miriam's quotes get less and less focused on religion and more on the human condition in a world rapidly approaching The Singularity, and Zakharov's become less and less focused on science and gain a spritual dimension with more than a hint of Deus Est Machina. Zakharov also isn't shy about describing the Planetmind as an "embryonic deity", since there is more than enough empirical evidence to prove it. The Human Hive faction explicitly seeks to invoke this trope. Its faction leader Shen-ji Yang's social experiment, among other things, as he seeks to eradicate belief in higher powers and replace it with an atheistic police state. This is his explicit agenda in-game. However, his writings draw heavily on East Asian religious tradition, and his end goals have a frightening number of parallels to both the attainment of Nirvana and the Ascent to Transcendence. The Peacekeepers and Data Angels see religion as a relic of the brutal old days of Earth, and they encourage people to put it aside in the name of freedom and social progress. That said, both can take up the "Fundamentalist" social value if they choose, which implies some interesting religious concepts for them. Aside from the Lord's Believers, Gaia's Stepdaughters are noted to be a religious society focused on coexisting with nature, the Cult of Planet is obvious, and both of the Progenitor factions smack of taking their dogma to the point of religion.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2b6c0401	comment	In Alien: Covenant, Oram believes this is why he was passed over for the position of captain. When he assumes the position following the captain's death, he worries about not being taken seriously because of it. It doesn't actually come up outside this conversation, however, suggesting it's more a confidence issue.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2e3e7ac2	comment	In Justice League, Hawkgirl comes from an advanced alien civilization that gave up religion eons ago (because their god was an Eldritch Abomination who demanded their souls in sacrifice), but after a certain episode, she comes to believe that there isâ€¦ something goodâ€¦ out there.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_2f4271ed	comment	In The Night's Dawn Trilogy, the rival powers in the Confederation are the staunchly atheist Edenists and the staunchly Christian Kulu Kingdom. The Edenists' philosophy and way of life lead to the closest thing to paradise as one can get, and they're also the only humans who can fully resist the possessed.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_32da1ced	comment	God's Not Dead: A Light in Darkness: Pearce takes this view regarding religion, saying people have outgrown the need for it.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_33dd1d90	comment	Half-Life 2 zigzags this trope. The Combine is a bunch of Scary Dogmatic Aliens who passed The Singularity a long time ago, if they have any form of religion it is unknown. On the other hand Eli Vance and his daughter Alyx mention God and prayer from time to time. Then there's Father Grigori who may or may not be an ordained Orthodox minister but certainly acts the part. Oh, and there's the Headcrab Zombies who scream to God for help.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_353b7af3	comment	Star Trek: Discovery: Jason Isaacs related an experience on set in which he ad libbed a line including the phrase "for God's sake" and was told by the episode's writer that such expressions wouldn't be used in Roddenberry's vision of a science-driven future absent of religion. The showrunners later clarified that, given the shows focus on diversity, it would stand to reason that there would be some religious people among them and references to God were allowed. In Season 2, Captain Pike mentions that his father taught both science and comparative religion, and later makes reference to a cousin who "only gave a straight answer in church".
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_353bdeb0	comment	The Humanx Commonwealth novels use a variation; although humans and several other species seek guidance from the United Church, which has a Unitarian-style philosophy where people only look for ethical guidance and don't buy into the ritualistic aspects of religion that fall under this trope's "superstition" label.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_3652e9ea	comment	The prequel series The Genesis Fleet shows the beginnings of this belief as a cult that springs up in the recently settled frontier colonies, as the settlers start looking back at Old Earth with a measure of nostalgia.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_38c57aa2	comment	Eberron: Since, unlike most other settings, the gods are not proven to exist, this comes up a bit. The Silver Flame is a literal flame kept in Flamekeep, a source of divine power that mortals can use to fight evil, and which occasionally speaks through the Keeper of the Flame. While the founder of the religion was a paladin of Dol Arrah, most of the faithful treat other religions as silly superstitions when they should be dedicating their faith to a more practical cause. The Blood of Vol is a cult of Immortality Seekers who wish to avoid the provably terrible afterlife of Eberron. Every other religion claims they have some way to avoid this fate after death, but the Seekers insist the only rational option is to ascend to godhood and avoid the issue entirely. Some sects even believe that the gods cursed the world with mortality out of jealousy to keep anyone else from having time to obtain godhood on their own.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_3defe34c	comment	Discussed in regard to the Krill, as unlike most advanced civilizations, they have increased in religiosity rather than decreasing. Their religion teaches that other species are soulless abominations lacking in true intelligence and sentience, more akin to animals than people, going so far as to use captive humans as sacrifices. Later they explain that species have been observed as having two reactions to finding other life and going into space. One is becoming humble, and no longer thinking they were the center of the universe. The other is doubling down, becoming very xenophobic. Obviously, the Krill did that. Ed mentions that they were more peaceful before, and it's possible that they also had a more passive interpretation of their religion.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_4110f1d0	comment	Baten Kaitos Origins twists this trope. It starts off with a fairly simple Science Is Bad message, but then it turns out that in the distant past people became practically addicted to the supernatural, and so a bunch of siblings in the past decided to try and stop them from being turned into pure magical essence by making a Deal with the Devil to gain even more supernatural powers, but then they all get sealed into the End Magnus from the first game. Then it turns out that the process that gave Sagi the supernatural power of one of the siblings was a scientific one, but he then uses that power to save the world. While getting a boost from the spirits of the dead siblings, no less. In short, rejecting the supernatural and focusing on science — or vice versa — is a Very Bad Thing, and the best way to live is with both in tandem with each other.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_4174511b	comment	The Law of Purple: Inverted by Caligula; instead of an advanced culture that once had religion but derides it as worthless now, there was almost never any organized religion to speak of and parts of the population are only now discovering it. However, most Caligulians view religious groups as nothing more than cults and consider them highly abnormal.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_42ffb88e	comment	SCP Foundation: SCP-2273 is a Super-Soldier from an Alternate Universe where Atheism is Russia's official religion, though he found peace with Christianity in the Broken Masquerade canon.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_444871f2	comment	Giants Series: Giants Star has a particularly fierce instance: the protagonists deduce the existence of an alien Ancient Conspiracy to suppress human progress as a reasonably parsimonious explanation for the continued existence of religion in modern times. The truth, as revealed in Entoverse, turns out to be that human religion, along with pretty much all mysticism and spirituality, is a result of Body Surfing Starfish Aliens from a Stable Time Loop-establishing planet-sized supercomputer humans built.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_47b1287b	comment	Quentyn Quinn, Space Ranger: Inverted. Christian churches make the occasional background appearances, and then in the "Probability Bomb" arc, it's revealed (with the author's characteristic subtlety) that atheism is the silly superstition that's been all but universally outgrown.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_4a059a74	comment	Although we're still vague on the specifics, The Mandalorian makes it clear that Mandalorianism is a religion. This creates some conflict when Din Djarin meets others who take a more lax approach - including removing their helmets in front of others, which is sacrilege to Din.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_53a0bd32	comment	The Twilight Zone (1959): "The Obsolete Man" is set in a future society where religion has been outlawed. Only one man still believes in God, and he is sentenced to death for being obsolete. He is allowed to choose how he dies; he chooses to be bombed on live television. The high official who sentences him to death comes to his cell to speak with him, only for the door to lock behind him. He panics and shouts "In the name of God, let me out!" The condemned man does — in the name of God. In the final scene, the official is sentenced to death for being obsolete.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_596460b1	comment	In Theta, religions still exist, but "theist" is used in contexts that imply it's as uncommon then as atheism is now. Knowing that most sapient peoples in the galaxy were created by the perfectly mortal and probably extinct "Ancients" likely helped.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_5b84eb35	comment	In Teen Lit Wasteland, Scott Dunkelman, the founder of the Scientific State of California (a pastiche of Chicago from Divergent), created the union system, or "Enlightened Science", as a way of helping humanity as a whole do this, believing that ancient superstitions like religion, ethnicity, and tribalism, and the identity politics that they fueled, had torn humanity apart and caused the Collapse. Enlightened Science instead became a religion itself, increasingly detached from actual science in favor of Dunkelman's own fixations, a melange of Silicon Valley techno-utopianism, nerd culture, Eastern religions, and pop psychology.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_5bfa9c98	comment	Warframe: The game takes place in a Feudal Future where most of humanity's early history has been completely forgotten. Most of the factions have their own religions, which they act as though they are far superior to those silly superstitions everyone else holds. The Orokin Empire referenced ancient myths in the names they gave to their devices, but otherwise made no show of worship. Not much is known for sure since they are long dead by the time of the game. If anything, they insisted on acting like hedonistic gods themselves. The Grineer spit upon all other religions and traditions as primitive, but they worship the "Twin Queens", a pair of sisters who receive the unconditional love and devotion of all Grineer. For quite a while it's unclear if the Twin Queens are still alive, but it turns out that they are, making them God Empresses. The Corpus worship the Void and the Profit. The Void is an Eldritch Location that is semi-personified as a sort of devil figure, while the Profit is the idea that the only important thing is making money, and those who make more money are morally superior to others. The Profit appears to have been invented by the Orokin in order to control the Corpus. The primitive Ostron tribes of Earth worship the Unum, a powerful intelligence who resides in the Orokin tower in Cetus. What exactly the Unum is remains unclear, but her power is very real, and she prevents any violence in Cetus.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_5c897f4a	comment	Schlock Mercenary: In an editor's note (which averts the trope) in Reverend Theo's first appearance, comic author Howard Tayler stated that it's not religion that's "foolishly optimistic" — it's this trope since it assumes that there will come a time when every possible doubt, question, insecurity, and uncertainty about life, humanity and the universe will be definitely answered and addressed by scientific progress. Comes up again much later, when the entire galaxy has gained near-perfect immortality, and they discover an immortal who was still suffering psychological damage due to his warrior culture from ten million years ago.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_5d354f8	comment	Red Dwarf: The only one of the main characters who shows the slightest religious belief is the robot hard-wired to believe in Silicon Heaven. Though Rimmer mentions that his parents were "Seventh Day Advent Hoppists" (their Bible had a typo) and implies that their religious lunacy is responsible for his Jerkass Hollywood Atheist tendencies. The Cat's species developed a religion worshiping Lister, who wasn't particularly happy about the wars they had in his name. Though the Cat himself proclaims that he doesn't believe any of that stuff. In "Better Than Life", a newscast announces that the Bible's dedication page and "work of fiction" disclaimer was discovered. Christianity is disproved again in the episode, "Lemons". Rimmer says his mother belonged to a religious sect that believed Jesus and Judas were identical twin brothers, with Judas pretending to be a resurrected Jesus after Jesus died. Time travel confirms this to be true. "Lemons" also implies that people in the future see Christianity as a bad thing due to all the wars it started. The only reason the dwarfers don't use time travel to stop it is that there would be no Wallace & Gromit Christmas specials if there was no Christianity. A time-travelling Jesus also comes to the same conclusion about Christianity starting wars after reading through a future encyclopedia.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_5f4d2a69	comment	The Fountains of Paradise, about the building of a Space Elevator and humanity's First Contact with an alien AI, had the AI disprove the works of Thomas Aquinas, and possibly Christianity itself. And that was all in the exposition. There is one religion left practicing (a Buddhist-type), but it leaves its monastery when the yellow butterflies reach the top of the hill it's on, simply because they were prophesied to do it. It is mentioned that the Vatican still exists as a center of Catholicism, but it suffers from severe financial troubles, implying that the number of practicing Catholics is minuscule.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_60249eb3	comment	Childhood's End has a similar device, which winds up discrediting every religion save Buddhism. The visitors' resemblance to stereotypical devils is because they are heralds of a change so monumental it echoes back through human history, causing the "devil" image in the first place.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_60f02ddb	comment	Similarly, in the American Dad! episode "Of Ice And Men" set in 2045, with the present referred to as "when people still believed in The Bible".
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_61caca70	comment	Averted and even inverted in the manga Alice in Borderland. At one point, some of the characters wonder how they ended up in a strange world that requires them to play deadly games to keep living. One character, a forensic scientist, muses about different supernatural and spiritual reasons they might be there. Another character asks how a scientist could still believe such things, and she replies that science has only been able to take humanity so far, and at some point, there are big things that even science hasn't yet been able to tell them.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_630755ab	comment	Codex Alera has an interesting example. The Alerans treat several of the practices of their Roman ancestors with scorn, to the point that some people think the Romans couldn't have done them to begin with because they are just so self-evidently ludicrous. These customs include worshipping gods, attempting to predict the future by studying animal entrails, shaping stone and metal without magic, and building complex machines. Of course, the setting also has a number of Genius Loci who are easily as powerful as the Olympian gods (and a lot more visible in everyday life), so it's not that surprising that religion fell out of fashion.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_66521be6	comment	Tower and the Hive plays this mostly straight. Those few protagonists who espouse a belief in a higher power are, at most, vaguely Deist. Those who are openly devout are almost always portrayed as mentally unstable troublemakers. Organized religious populations are shunted to backwater worlds where "the harm they can do is minimized".
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_679b6cab	comment	Brave New World: Mond and the Director muse that John is in (silent) prayer over his mother's body, and it's made clear they're among only a few New Londoners who still even know what this means. To drive home the point, Mond comments that "there was once a thing called 'God'", confirming they no longer have this belief.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_6934f7fe	comment	Solaris was his weirdest usage; the protagonist broods about how humanity hasn't improved in any way, but at the same time he broods about how great it is that humanity has outgrown foolish notions of God. He spent much of that book exploring how such a person might view a very unfamiliar alien being.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_694aa414	comment	Pandora: First Contact, the Spiritual Successor to Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri: The Divine Ascension is a social media-based religion, founded by Lady Lilith Vermillion (formerly a hooker named Lily Maroon) as a scam to collect blackmail material on her followers. She is eventually shot in the head but survives, although it's implied there's been some brain damage, resulting in her buying into her own religion. Naturally, by the time the Noxium Corporation starts openly selling Alcubierre Drive-powered colony ships, Divine Ascension is one of the few powers who can afford one. To a lesser extent, Terra Salvum, a faction arising from an Animal Wrongs Group. Unlike all other factions, they steal ship plans and build their own, foregoing cryogenics in favor of a Generation Ship. By the time they arrive to Pandora, the kids who have grown up aboard have been firmly indoctrinated into the belief that the other factions mean the planet harm. They also rely on Oral Tradition to tell their stories.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_6b7bfaa1	comment	Hogwarts and Magical Britain's magic in Scion of Sorcery is seen as primitive and regressive in comparison to the Masters of the Mystic Arts' teachings. Harry is especially critical of the housing system, making a point that it serves little purpose than to drum up arbitrary tribalism among the students and staff.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_6e1d5f36	comment	Farscape takes an interesting perspective on religion for a sci-fi show. Although it doesn't discuss religion extraordinarily often, several crew members practice various alien religions, and some of them are quite devout. The show also demonstrates that gods and magic really do exist in their universe, some more than others. The Peacekeepers, on the other hand, play this trope straight, with an entire episode, "Prayer", devoted to Aeryn recounting the ancient legend of a Sebacean goddess (implying that they no longer believe in gods in the present day) and praying to her for rescue; for added desperation points, Aeryn notes that the reason this particular goddess doesn't have any followers anymore is that she killed them all on a whim.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_73d7930f	comment	Deep Space Nine is a seven-year mix of affirmations and denials of this trope. The station's commander is declared an alien Jesus in the first episode, later finds alien gods to confirm it, then starts having visions and becomes a god himself. Overall, the series takes a balanced view: while several episodes (mostly dealing with recurring character Winn Adami) decry the abuse of religion as a political tool or an excuse to discriminate against others, the show as a whole doesn't condemn the practice of religion itself. Part of what makes it confusing is that the Prophets can back up everything their believers say about them; the first season finale has a dispute on whether they're technically gods or not fizzle out when everybody realizes that they're arguing over semantics and all agree on the key points. Then there's the Klingons, whose mythology in this series says that the ancient Klingons killed their gods. The details vary: Worf says "They were more trouble than they were worth" when queried, while Lady Sirella relates a story of how the gods were killed by the heartbeats of the first Klingon couple when they met (the tale is part of the traditional Klingon marriage rite). In the DS9 episode "Penumbra", after Sisko proposes to Kasidy Yates, she mentions that her mother would want them to be married by a minister.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_78750de	comment	In Solaere ssiun Hnaifv'daenn, this is turned on its head from Star Trek norms, with an irreligious Romulan pulling this on the human protagonist, a practicing Muslim who cites religious law as a reason for not taking a vaccine orally (the fic is said to be taking place during Ramadan when an oral vaccine would break Khoroushi's fast). The author has mentioned in forum posts that the trope annoys him.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_791fca44	comment	In BioShock, Andrew Ryan considers religion an obsolete and harmful superstition "people of tomorrow" should have no need for. He strives to eradicate religion in his Objectivist utopia and declares that smuggling religious texts to Rapture is a crime punishable by death. The experiment goes terribly awry.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_7988cb68	comment	Mass Effect has Loads and Loads of Races, which naturally all have different opinions on the subject: Humans as a whole still follow lots of religions, but space-faring humans to a lesser degree. Ashley implies that she's seen as eccentric for having a religious belief. The hanar worship the very real (though long-extinct) Protheans. The Drell are deeply religious. Thane Krios mentions several Drell gods, including Amonkira, Lord of Hunters, and Arashu, Goddess of Motherhood and Protection. If his son is saved in the second game, he undergoes a Heelâ€“Faith Turn in the third game to become a priest. The most popular asari religion is revealed to be entirely based upon contact with Protheans by their primitive ancestors, heavily implying that ancient religions may be the direct result of alien contact, misconstrued or misremembered by the populations they affected. The turians believe in a form of pantheistic animism, but they're open to experimentation; some turians have been shown adopting Earth religions that mesh well with their worldview, including Zen Buddhism and Confucianism. The quarians donâ€™t believe in gods, but they believe in souls and hold their ancestors in a reverence which sometimes enters into ancestor worship (or was implied to have happened in the past). They in turn are held in near-religious reverence by the robotic Geth race they created, which is made fairly awkward by the way their mutual history includes multiple attempts to wipe each other out (originally triggered by a Geth asking "Does this unit have a soul?") A splinter Geth faction worship the Reapers instead, as a pinnacle of machine existence; the Reapers (who suffer species-wide denial that they are machines) find this insulting. Like the quarians, the krogan also have a form of ancestor worship. They also believe in a place they call the void where the souls of dead krogan go. The salarian religion is said to be similar to Hinduism. It has a "wheel of life" perspective, where the dead are reincarnated to fix the flaws of their previous lives and become better people. Javik implies that the Protheans themselves practiced this trope, though he also mentions that this view was reconsidered after encountering the Reapers. It must be noted that he's an Unreliable Narrator; he grew up in the Prothean Empire after the Reapers had invaded, and he's also, well, Javik. Shepard him/herself can either confirm or deny any religious leanings, or simply note:
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_7a6a5365	comment	Fahrenheit 451 (2018): Beatty refers to ages past as the time when people believed in gods. That said, the Bible is one of just three books exempted from the ban, though we still see no sign of religiosity by anyone.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_7d8e6e5e	comment	Till We Have Faces: The Fox paints Greek society as the Classical Era equivalent and makes it a point that the Greek philosophers of his time have a much less mystical understanding of the gods than the people of Glome. He doesn't exactly disbelieve, but he equates the gods with natural forces and discourages Orual from anthropomorphizing them. Subverted in the end, when he calls himself a fool looking at half-truths.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_7dad8347	comment	Inverted in the FreeSpace game mod Blue Planet. A major part of the story is that mysticism and spirituality are creeping back into society, and there exists at least one Sufficiently Advanced Alien race that is heavily spiritual (or at least, expresses themselves in a spiritual manner). The title of the campaign's first release, "Age of Aquarius", references this: it refers to an age in which, realizing that neither religion alone or science alone has all the answers, people turn to a fusion of the two to reach true understanding.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_81692f99	comment	Creator J. Michael Straczynski, an atheist himself, deliberately avoided this trope in the series (in contrast with Star Trek), with all the major species having beliefs of various kinds and strengths, and a mix of believers and non-believers. The straightest example is probably Lorien, who says his people have lived so long they simply had no more use for such things. In "The Lost Tales", mention is made of how religion has been declining since humanity went to space and made contact with other races, but it still has a considerable presence in Earth-influenced space and among the alien races. The Catholic Church is alive and well; over the course of the series, Babylon 5 becomes home to a small but thriving Dominican community who mostly concern themselves with comparative religious studies. Babylon 5 is also chosen to host an ecumenical conference at one point (involving Catholics, a Baptist church complete with gospel choir and a delegation from the Church of Elvis). In the Bad Future shown in "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars", orders of monks also preserve humans' knowledge after nuclear war wipes out civilization, much like monasteries did during the Dark Ages. Humanity's main distinction is just how many extant religions there are; in an event in "The Parliment of Dreams" where all the ambassadors were displaying their cultures' dominant faiths, the Human exhibition was just a long line of people who all had different beliefs.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8472bfa4	comment	Religion doesn't really come up much in the near-future setting of Permutation City, and after the heroes upload their minds to a virtual world their new society is wholly atheistic, and the climax features First Contact with a race of perfectly rational and peaceful aliens who never developed religion. They aren't epistemologically flawless, though, because their limited understanding of the 'natural' world means they do not understand that their universe is a simulation, and so mock the heroes' claim of being from a different world that won't suffer heat death. This causes the destruction of the virtual universe. At the very end, the female lead hypothesizes that God's existence is just as impossible as a triangle with four sides.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_862e754d	comment	The prequel Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak reveals why they have this reputation; the descendants of one of the two main religious factions secretly built their forces for centuries and made a nearly successful attempt to conquer the world and destroy what little temperate land still existed on the planet. Then the descendants of the other side snapped during the war and tried to form a third faction. It turns out that the main elements are actually true, although mistakenly ascribed to a god rather than a rival star empire.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_897271d7	comment	Alien in a Small Town claims that many humans had naturally assumed that First Contact with aliens would settle the matter, with the aliens being so much more advanced that they would have a final answer for us. On the contrary, it turns out that the aliens themselves have a wide variety of religious and philosophical schools, including agnostics and atheists.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8ac4e993	comment	Religion is rarely mentioned in the classic Universal Century timeline of Gundam. In fact, the UC calendar was originally established in order to invoke this trope and usher in an utopian age for humankind. There is still room for any number of fringe cults, but these mostly have political ulterior motives, such as the Zanscare Empire in Mobile Suit Victory Gundam or the myriad manifestations of Zeon ideology. Defied in 0096 Unicorn: The reason why spacenoids had such a fervent worship of Christianity, which transitioned to a blind obedience to Zeon philosophy, was because they had nothing else to live for or hope with in the cold, resource-scarce void of space. As Marida explains, the Universal Century was anything but atheist for the poverty-stricken colonists.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8ac8797e	comment	"The Merchant Princes": The religion created by Salvor Hardin (in "The Mayors") to make Foundation technology palatable to the Four Kingdoms has been ridiculously unsuccessful at converting new systems to the Foundation's rule. Master Trader Hober Mallow realizes that the time for rule by religion is over and now it is time for rule by capitalism.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8d22345f	comment	The Neanderthal Parallax: Subverted with the Neanderthals, who never had a concept of an afterlife or gods to begin with due to different brain structures (although played straight with the finale of the trilogy, when a magnetic pole reversal affects humans' minds by first stimulating then later eliminating paranormal, mystical or religious beliefs. With them gone, peace breaks out in the Middle East, among other improvements).
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8d625f8b	comment	Rendezvous with Rama: The closing stories, on which Clarke either collaborated or wrote himself, subvert this. The setting has humanity already in religious decline by default, but the very end of the series presents not only possible evidence for the existence of a divine being such as God, but an explanation for his laissez-faire attitude to dealing with his creation.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_8df53d3d	comment	In Supergod, faith is stated to be a biological flaw in human neurology that enables group behavior without the enlightened self-interest that should preclude it — a "narcotic response" to the concept of a higher power. This means most people will follow leaders based on their ability to evoke that response rather than their ability to encourage survival. It also means that most people would be quite willing to surrender their free will to powerful forces that don't even see them as bacteria. You can guess how that turns out.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_91103245	comment	The Stars My Destination doesn't explicitly say that all religion was outmoded in its society, but Christianity was illegal, and pictures of nuns praying was considered equivalent to pornography.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_9988ccac	comment	The Empirium Trilogy: When she was younger, Eliana loved hearing stories about the time before the Fall, a time when the empirium was still available and magic still in use. By the start of the series, she views those same stories and all talk about the Sun Queen's eventual arrival and her victory over the Undying Empire as mere wishful thinking at best.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_9d47a2a2	comment	A Song of Ice and Fire: A large faction of the Maesters have actually been trying to enforce this trope by attempting to discredit magic wherever they can. Unfortunately for them, magic is no mere superstition: dragons are coming back, prophecies are coming true, wargs and seers do exist, sorceresses can assassinate at long distances, and that fabled Zombie Apocalypse and The Fair Folk who kicked it off are in fact very real and aiming for a repeat performance. And all because of their efforts, the Maesters have just left the entire continent woefully unprepared for their invasion by making everybody believe that the undead snow fairies are just a myth. Nice Job Breaking It, Hero.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_9f867f17	comment	The Zodiac Series averts it; while there's no sign of Earth's old religions, new faiths have sprouted up centering around Helios, and House Pisces is explicitly very religious.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_9fb9bec4	comment	Outsider: The Loroi systems analyst Beryl shows shades of this attitude after hearing the pilots Talon and Spiral explain to Alex Jardin, their human companion, the significance of the diral-seii knife blade Spiral wears (it makes the bearer a sort of inverse Good Luck Charm, bringing good luck to the other members of their diral at the cost of the bearer's own luck). She's hesitant for Jardin to even hear the explanation due to its superstitious nature, has a disapproving frown as they talk, and tells Jardin that he can ignore what they told him as it's an artifact of Taben culture being serious about tradition even by Loroi standards. When asked, she explains that she was raised in a research colony by scientists.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_9ff4a8d9	comment	Godzilla fanfiction Abraxas: Empty Fullness: Deconstructed with the Makers (the aliens who created Ghidorah). They're a technologically-advanced alien race who have a dubious concept of morality, deliberately inflicting a global extinction event on another sapient planet. The Makers' atheism is not used by the author to paint them as enlightened or rational, given how the AbraxasVerse continues to run with the Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019) movie's thematic comparison of the Titans to old gods, plus it's hinted that the Makers' anti-spiritualist attitude contributed to their failure to realize just how powerful and dangerous their three-headed draconic creation was, until it was too late for them and Ghidorah wiped them out. In this non-canon drabble where the Abraxas version of Ren Serizawa meets his canon self, the latter dismisses Monarch's worshipful attitude to Godzilla and notions of symbiotic human-Titan coexistence as "pagan nonsense".
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_a03c67de	comment	The Light of Other Days, co-written with Stephen Baxter, had a device that could see into the past. It proves, among other things, that Moses didn't exist, but was rather a merger of several different historical personages. Jesus did, but he was just a good person who inspired people, rather than a miracle-maker.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_a2c8cc46	comment	The Orthogonal trilogy is in a world with different laws of physics, and features as an inevitability that advanced societies abandon religion for scientific inquiry.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_a4a6b86a	comment	In Code Geass, Lloyd lightly teases Suzaku about how the Japanese still believe in such superstitions.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_a9570fac	comment	In Victoria, the technologically advanced Lady Land Azania is an example, supporting secularism and considering Christianity a regressive cult that oppresses women. Their main enemy, the Northern Confederation, soundly averts this, being a reactionary and borderline theocratic state.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_aacd24cb	comment	In StarCraft, background material mentions that upon taking control of Earth, the United Powers League (later the United Earth Directorate) promoted state atheism, banning or co-opting all religions and exiling or killing those who didn't adhere (alongside political prisoners, cyber-deviants and other undesirables) in an effort to stamp out the things that have divided the human society. As a result, the territories of the UPL/UED are non-religious, while the Koprulu Sector is teeming with religious groups, ranging from mainstream Christianity to Crystal Dragon Jesus and to even stranger Cults and movements.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ad4d7d6a	comment	A modern-day variant in Your Name; according to Another Side: Earthbound, one of the key reasons for Toshiki running for mayor was to try and invoke this in Itomori and break the hold that the Miyamizu and their Shinto beliefs have traditionally held over the town after Futaba's death shattered his faith in the gods. He realises almost too late that there is indeed truth in the legends he sneered at.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ae901389	comment	Semiosis: Invoked by the humans who create a Lost Colony on the planet Pax; they consider religion an "Earthly irrationality" and deliberately avoid teaching their descendants about it.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_aebd6f43	comment	Anathem features a world in which a group of secular monks wall themselves away from society and study pure logic, science, philosophy, and art. Although they are not officially atheistic, few members hold onto any religious beliefs. In the outside world, religions rise and fall unnoticed. While venturing in the outside world, monks can quickly reduce any religion they encounter into one of a number of basic categories so that they can avoid causing offense. Religious non-monks are mostly presented as alien and quite mistaken from the point of view of the secular monks but are not really treated as villains.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b14a9679	comment	Babe Ruth: Man-Tank Gladiator: Subverted. The priest writing the story mentions regards old religions (from what we'd call The Present Day) as outdated superstitions, but he believes his religion is absolute truth.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b2948e65	comment	This is how Actraiser ends. By defeating the local God of Evil, the Master has ensured that humanity can stand on its own without his help. The last scene depicts a statue of the Master crumbling to dust.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b347b135	comment	A Long Time Until Now: It's mentioned that religions still exist in the future era, but pretty much all adherents treat their holy texts as symbolic or metaphorical and don't truly believe in the supernatural.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b36ef2c2	comment	When debating a Christian, the titular alien in Paul says religion is something people use to explain a universe they don't understand, calling it existential Prozac.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b68b1547	comment	In Colony by Rob Grant, all of humanity lives on a Generation Ship and the closest thing to a religious person is an atheist womanising priest who only got the job because careers are decided generations in advance.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b6ba8ee	comment	In Lucifer's Star, the opposite is true, and humanity has become more religious over time. This is stated due to the fact science has proven many bizarre and strange things about physics as well as the existence of Sufficiently Advanced races. Religions may still be wrong (and are often used as a form of social control by the setting's many dictatorships) but show no sign of going away any time soon.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b6fa03c3	comment	Go, Mutants! is set in an Alternate History where religion has gotten a lot less popular after people found out that aliens exist.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_b80b5c0d	comment	Sonic Frontiers: Sonic and Sage discuss this trope in the Final Horizon DLC in regards to the Ancients. Sonic is surprised by them worshipping a deity due to how insanely advanced their technology is, but Sage counters that religion and spirituality are significant unifying factors for a community. However, she personally thinks that the trope that actually applies here is No Such Thing as Space Jesus; especially since she can observe phenomena related to this "god", which make her rule out supernatural causes (Sage is an AI by the way).
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_bb478d5e	comment	Bait and Switch (STO): Downplayed with the primary protagonist of The 'Verse. Kanril Eleya is Bajoran and is a member of their religion from Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, but mentions she's been compared by one of her senior staff to a "Christmas-and-Easter Christian" (she thinks he's exaggerating). In Solaere ssiun Hnaifv'daenn, this is turned on its head from Star Trek norms, with an irreligious Romulan pulling this on the human protagonist, a practicing Muslim who cites religious law as a reason for not taking a vaccine orally (the fic is said to be taking place during Ramadan when an oral vaccine would break Khoroushi's fast). The author has mentioned in forum posts that the trope annoys him.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_bb501fae	comment	In Fiasco, the expedition's crew includes a priest, who's portrayed positively.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000 mostly averts this, with Church Militants and Religions of Evil popping up everywhere, but it still has a few examples: The Tau seem to exhibit divine worship of their Ethereals, but that is more obeisance to their leaders than religion; they otherwise have no belief in anything "magical" or "supernatural", including the very real daemons and other things that inhabit the warp. As a race with no psychers and whose souls barely touch the warp, in practical terms thinking of daemons as just another hostile alien race is true enough for practical purposes. They are by far the most socially and technologically progressive faction in the setting, which admittedly isn't saying much. The Aeldari believe in the existence of their gods and invoke the power of one (Khaine) on a semi-regular basis, but they don't worship them; they mostly just use them for Oh, My Gods!. This is because all but three of their gods were eaten by a Chaos god, and there is no real point to much of their religion anymore (except for Cegorach the Laughing God, but only the Harlequins worship him). It is said that in the Drukhari city of Commorragh there is a place known as the Pit of Idols. It is a yawning chasm filled with the symbols of the Drukhari's countless victims through the millennia - pendants and rosaries of the God-Emperor, icons of the Dark Gods, fetishes to Gork and Mork, and symbols of various other alien deities. If one were to venture down to the very bottom of the pit, they would find ancient idols to the slain Aeldari pantheon - Asuryan, Isha, Kurnous, Lileath, and the others, long-since discarded and forgotten by the Drukhari's ancestors, who watched their gods be slaughtered by Slaanesh and subsequently despised their weakness. The Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind tried to invoke this, creating a society of Flat Earth Atheists because he thought it would starve the Chaos gods (which was not only unlikely to work, as the Chaos Gods don't need worship, but backfired because while people were channeling their emotions to those religions, they were denying them to the Chaos Gods along with inadvertently creating the conditions for a new Chaos God of Non-Belief to be born). Being 40K, it failed miserably and made everything worse. Ironically, he himself ended up being worshiped by the humans of the Imperium. Amusingly enough, when he destroyed the last vaguely-Abrahamic church on Terra (in the short story The Last Church) the priest explained exactly why this would happen.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_bd67c74c	comment	In CthulhuTech, Christianity and Islam are gone; it's not really expounded upon, they're just gone. Presumably, the very real and somewhat provable existence of the old ones made everyone less interested in religions that have a very specific worldview that excludes them. Buddhism and Hinduism are still around, essentially unchanged, and so is Judaism (despite Judaism also being a monotheistic, Abrahamic religion).
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_c399cd39	comment	In Eclipse Phase, many religions didn't survive the Fall and the exodus via Brain Uploading from earth, but new faiths arose to fill in the gaps. The most common is Neo-Buddhism, Buddhism combined with Transhumanism, where uploading is seen as a form of reincarnation and the emphasis is on lessening suffering rather than escaping it. Oddly, Islam was able to adapt to uploading, but the other Abrahamic faiths largely couldn't. The Catholic church is also still influential in the Jovian Junta, with its large population that managed to escape Earth in their original bodies.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who has a big case of Depending on the Writer in regards to this trope. The setting as a whole is inconsistent; sometimes religion is prominent even in "advanced" societies, other times it's absent, obsolete, or discredited. The Doctor himself, one of the oldest, most intelligent, and best-traveled beings in the universe, has never been portrayed as religious himself; he's just as inconsistent, sometimes being respectful of religions and their leaders and other times dismissing them. Many plots from the original series involved the Doctor saving people from worshiping a dangerous "god" who turns out to be advanced technology, a Sufficiently Advanced Alien, or an Eldritch Abomination. Tavian, a sympathetic character in "The Romans", is revealed at the end of the story to secretly be a Christian. The Doctor shows particular respect to Buddhism in "The Abominable Snowmen"; he bows to the wisdom of a Buddhist priest, returns to them a sacred item, and uses Buddhist prayer to help Victoria resist the Great Intelligence. The Expanded Universe book Eye of Heaven has the Fourth Doctor recount the unshown adventure leading up to "The Abominable Snowman", claiming that his life had been saved by Buddhist faith healing performed on him by the priest, and using "Buddhist wisdom" to put himself into a "healing coma" that allowed him to recover from being shot through the heart. In "Planet of the Spiders", the eponymous villains worship the Great One as a sort of God Empress and use their religion to exploit and brutalize the enslaved humans on their planet. By contrast, the Third Doctor engages in Buddhist philosophy again, and a fellow Time Lord (believed by many fans to be a previously mentioned monk who mentored the Doctor in his youth) is living on Earth as a Buddhist priest. The Fourth Doctor period is the most visible user of the trope; he frequently mocks mysticism and magic of all sorts, and his tenure features the highest proportion of "the Doctor fights religion" plots. His companion Leela was even designed to contrast her savagery and superstition against the Doctor's pacifism and scientific knowledge, with their first scene in "The Robots of Death" having the Doctor explicitly tell Leela that magic doesn't exist. Leela had already begun to question her original faith in "The Face of Evil"; in her first scene in the series, she's taunting her own high priest, shouting "Liar! There is no Xoannon!" On the other hand, the story arcs featuring the White and Black Guardians — who, at least metaphorically, clearly represented God and the Devil and weren't at all subtle about it — began during the 4th Doctor years and continued into the 5th Doctor's era. Implied in "The Ark in Space", where Vira, a far future human with quite an alien mindset, immediately explains to the Doctor and his companions that the Ark leader's nickname Noah was taken from "mythology", as if expecting them not to know. The Fifth Doctor episode "Kinda" is, again, full of Buddhist symbolism. This was zigzagged in the first four seasons of the reboot series, which had little to no mention of magic or religion. Showrunner Russell T. Davies was a staunch atheist, found it utterly implausible for the Doctor or any of his advanced alien cohorts to be religious, and declared, "That's what I believe, so that's what you're going to get. Tough, really. To get rid of those so-called agendas, you've got to get rid of me". Despite this, several episodes set in the future showed humans or aliens still practicing religion in some way, like the sisters of Plenitude by a religious order of Nurses who worship the Goddess Santori in "New Earth", "The Satan Pit" has the Doctor mention the various religions practiced across the universe and brings up various examples of the Satanic Archetype and Ida mentions she was raised Neo Classic Congregational by her mother (although she is not part of the faith anymore) and the heartbreakingly beautiful rendition of the hymn "The Old Rugged Cross" in "Gridlock". Davies was followed by Steven Moffat, who threw both sides of religion into the core Story Arc of the series. The Big Bads of series 5 and 6 were an intergalactic religious order who manipulate people through post-hypnotic commands, and religion and the military became practically the same thing in the future. Series 7 reveals that the previous Big Bads, though, were a splinter faction from what's essentially Space Catholicism; while he may not agree with her order's tenets, the Doctor is good friends with Tasha Lem, Mother Superious of the Church of the Papal Mainframe. The Tenth Doctor more or less says in "The Satan Pit" that he doesn't believe in God or any sort of higher power, or at least he's never run across anything to convince him that such a power exists. Given that he's run into various super-powerful "god"-like beings, such as Sutekh, Fenric, and the White and Black Guardians, that's quite a statement. One of the Doctor's nicknames in the reboot era is "the lonely god". There's nobody on his level anymore, not even the other Time Lords, much less anything higher that he recognizes. The responsibility of it wears him down. The Twelfth Doctor is actually open to the idea of an afterlife (and mentions he always meant to take a look), but he finds the version presented in "Dark Water" to be absolutely ludicrous. He's right; it's a ploy by Missy to freak out the world's rich and powerful for the purposes of creating an army of the dead. She did end up creating a virtual afterlife in the process, though. The Thirteenth Doctor is shown to be very respectful of religions, even participating in a few minor but important prayers. The Doctor is mentioned in something called "the Book of Celebrants", and she apologizes for her ignorance when she mistook some time-traveling priests for murderers (they show up whenever someone dies alone to pray with them). As a side note, Time Lord society has always incorporated a lot of vaguely ecclesiastical imagery â€”Â e.g., the robes and skullcaps, the rank of "cardinal", and the TARDIS alarm being called the Cloister Bell.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_c6f7e804	comment	Blake's 7: Blake has to explain to Gan what a church is as "The Federation had them all destroyed at the beginning of the New Calendar". Various fictional religions are shown however, so it's not as if humanity has outgrown the need; on the prison planet Cygnus Alpha the rulers have created a religion specifically to prevent discord among the inhabitants, and the Clonemasters are a Single-Precept Religion created by the Terran Federation to black box cloning technology. Other than these examples however the trope is played straight, as we don't see anyone turning to religious belief to cope with their existence in a Crapsack World. Neither does the Federation use a state religion as a tool of power, which they'd certainly do if religious beliefs had any currency among the population.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ca846d7d	comment	In Halo: Nightfall, ONI agent Horrigan cites the fact that the Sedrans still believe in Valhalla as a reason to look down on them. Granted, he's a Jerkass, there's an Interservice Rivalry going on, and his CO Jameson Locke doesn't seem to share Horrigan's disdain.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_cbad9b62	comment	In Legend of the Galactic Heroes, religious beliefs are close to non-existent in the Alliance. The only organised religion present in the series, the Terraist Church, turns out to be a Path of Inspiration that aims to revive Earth's past glory through subversive actions such as assassinating key figures of the galaxy. Otherwise, the Church itself does not display evidence for beliefs in the divine. On the other hand, the Empire has re-purposed Odinism as a quasi-state religion (but banned everything else). Imperial characters are shown genuinely believing in the existence of Valhalla, and Reinhard dreamed of it at least once.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_d0ea0838	comment	Star Ocean has Ronixis, who claims that humanity has moved beyond religion. However, finding himself in the backwards world of Roak, and confronted with the existence of magic, which he'd hitherto never believed existed, he finds himself re-examining his views. The sequels make clear that magic is nothing more than advanced science, however. The third game even simultaneously proves that God exists and provides a scientific explanation for the big jerk.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_d131c1e9	comment	The Animated Series episode "Yesteryear" has Spock (disguised as a distant cousin) claim to his father Sarek that he is visiting the Vulcan city of ShiKahr to honor their family's gods.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_d432a439	comment	Looking Backward: Averted. In contrast to most socialist ideologies (Marxism most particularly), Bellamy's socialism was explicitly Christian based on his interpretation of the Bible, which his fictional society reflects. Bellamy and his brother were actually both Baptist ministers. His book reflects this, since though it isn't focused on, his imagined USA in 2000 has such an ideology. At one point, the protagonist hears a sermon to this effect by a Christian minister.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_d4d17cca	comment	In the Uglies series, the people of the future sarcastically refer to gods as "invisible superheroes in the sky". There are some groups trying to bring religion back, but it isn't catching on.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_dfff0805	comment	Orphans of the Sky: Subverted. The Ship's scientists are essentially priests of a monotheistic religion with a roughly scientific appearance, and in their number there is a faction of skeptical, practical men who have come to disregard the old talk of divine plans, sin, and mysticism as worthless nonsense except as a form of social control, and concern themselves only with the practical matters of keeping society running. However, the old religion does actively maintain a number of truths, even if in highly distorted form, about the Ship's origin as a deliberately designed thing intended to go on a specific journey, which the young skeptics reject alongside the rest. In fact, Narby's refusal to listen to any of the old tales means that he ultimately remains completely unwilling to accept that the Ship is actually a moving thing, that the universe outside of it exists, and that it is reaching its ultimate destination.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e12886a4	comment	The Golden Oecumene never says anything one way or the other about religion, but it's somewhat odd that in a setting where characters are defined heavily by their philosophical beliefs, the only person who engages in any form of worship or mysticism is a bit character whose philosophy is never explained. This might seem even odder when one considers that Wright is a devout traditionalist Catholic, except that he wrote the trilogy before he converted.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e199d649	comment	The elves of the Inheritance Cycle have outgrown religion; however, Eragon is slightly distrustful of the elves' atheism, and in the third book, a being that's pretty hard to interpret as anything other than a Dwarven god appears to bless their new king.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e235270c	comment	In Stellaris, it generally depends on an empire's chosen ethos on the Materialist-Spiritualist axis, and the strength of those two factions within the empire note a materialist empire can still end up with a strong spiritualist faction, and vice versa. How exactly the Materialsts view the Shroud, the various Extradimensional Beings, the Covenants, and the Psionic techs is uncertain. As of Apocalypse, there's also the Great Khan, who, when asked why they don't speak of their people's former religious beliefs, pretty much replies with this (though he promises not to enforce state atheism upon his satraps).
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e59216c7	comment	In The Gamer's Alliance, the Magicracy of Alent believes only in the power of man, having forsaken the gods who they see as cruel, enslaving beings.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e6405649	comment	Played with in The Dinosaur Lords. The recent trend in Nuevaropa is to be agnostic, with young nobility openly proclaiming that they highly doubt the existence of the Creators. On the other hand, their parents, who are still the ones with power, are often devout, and the prologue shows that there's some truth to their faith.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e85e05b5	comment	In Divergent, it is implied that the Abnegation faction, which lives much like the Amish, is the only section of society that still believes in God. However, Insurgent shows that the Amity Faction practices some sort of naturalistic religion.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e8f15e5b	comment	In Captain French, or the Quest for Paradise, which takes place about 20,000 years in the future, humanity has settled thousands of worlds. Some of the worlds view religion in this manner, especially on the planet Tranai, which is ruled by "humane communism". Some other worlds are ruled by theocracies, such as the Holy Archonate on Murphy, which is recovering from a comet strike. The eponymous captain believes theocracy is part of an ever-changing cycle of "democratic" governments; only an enlightened monarchy can avoid it.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_e9e265b6	comment	In Fire Emblem: Awakening, this is what Walhart wants the world to be like; he advocates the idea of a militaristic and atheistic new world order under his rule to bring an end to war and strife. During their Support conversations, the Player Character admits that while Walhart might be onto something, his world would be no better than a tyranny populated by forcibly-indoctrinated servants who've all been bullied into submission. In response, Walhart agrees — reasoning that, because he lost to the Avatar, he must clearly be in the right. The Hero Chrom also acknowledges Walhart's vision but rejects it on similar grounds, resolving to unite all peoples of all faiths (or lack thereof) by touching their hearts rather than forcing them to bend the knee.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ea4c5e89	comment	The Celendrial Empire from Dark Shores is militantly atheist and views people who still pray to gods as "pagans". This is an offense that is punished by death.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ea4f62db	comment	In the Family Guy episode, "Road to The Multiverse", Brian and Stewie visit a parallel universe where a lack of Christianity allows the U.S. to progress technologically by a thousand years, though the arts had stagnated for a similar amount of time.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ec02633a	comment	Played with in The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt: The Nilfgaardian Empire believes gods aren't real. They use this as a license to rape, pillage, and loot temples. Given the supernatural weirdness that goes on in The Witcher world, it probably makes them Hollywood Atheists. They're also hypocrites because they have their own religion based around God-Emperor worship; suggesting that the Northern pantheon is primitive and backwards is more Cultural Posturing. One sidequest has you running around the swamps of Velen, fixing wayshrines to an ancient crone goddess which have been toppled over. The culprits? A bunch of students from the local university, led by a rather unhinged philosopher who decries religion as a tool of fear and control, even giving Karl Marx's infamous "opium for the masses" line as he explains his actions. Given the witch-hunting craze currently sweeping Novigrad with the help of the Church of the Eternal Fire, he may be right.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ec9965ca	comment	In The Culture, the titular civilization looks at religion as a delusion that is deserving of sympathy. This viewpoint runs into trouble in Look to Windward, where the "enlightened" races are irritated and nonplussed that whether or not the Chelgrian heaven existed before, it demonstrably exists now. Surface Detail features sophisticated virtual reality environments, many of which are based on each religion's hell, which proves to be a contentious issue in galactic politics.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ef076a36	comment	Star Trek: Voyager's Commander Chakotay is the most visibly religious human protagonist in the entire franchise (even if the religion he practices is a poorly researched mishmash of Native American and New Age ideas), and the other characters are consistently very respectful of his beliefs. Notably, his is the only real voice of spiritual consolation to Neelix after Neelix suffers a Crisis of Faith in his alien religion in "Mortal Coil". "Mortal Coil" is one of the most thoughtful explorations of the idea in the franchise, albeit a very dark one. After Neelix has been medically declared dead, Seven of Nine is able to revive him via phlebotinum. Neelix suffers a Crisis of Faith in his alien religion because he did not catch any glimpse of the afterlife. Chakotay tries to reassure him and lets him use a gizmo to go on a vision quest into his own psyche, but this only upsets him more, despite Chakotay's insistence that he may be misinterpreting what he saw. Neelix finally finds the strength to keep going after speaking with little Naomi Wildman, but still ends the episode emotionally wounded and full of more questions than answers. In "Hunters", Tuvok receives a message from his family on Vulcan. His wife assures him they are praying for his safe return. At a temple. In "The Omega Directive", from what Seven of Nine says, the Borg appear to have something close to a religion regarding their attitude toward the Omega Particle. She compares it to Chakotay's belief in the Great Spirit, and Janeway interprets Seven's reaction to seeing the particle as a spiritual experience.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_f4fa693a	comment	In Quantum Vibe, all the characters we see swear by famous scientists and blaspheme by bureaucracy; at first, religion seems not even to have survived as an eccentricity or a memory. It turns out there's a reason for that, and also that the Jews, Christians, and Muslims at least the ones who have survived banded together to form a new order known as The Children of Armageddon.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_f74b5f80	comment	Babylon 5: Creator J. Michael Straczynski, an atheist himself, deliberately avoided this trope in the series (in contrast with Star Trek), with all the major species having beliefs of various kinds and strengths, and a mix of believers and non-believers. The straightest example is probably Lorien, who says his people have lived so long they simply had no more use for such things. In "The Lost Tales", mention is made of how religion has been declining since humanity went to space and made contact with other races, but it still has a considerable presence in Earth-influenced space and among the alien races. The Catholic Church is alive and well; over the course of the series, Babylon 5 becomes home to a small but thriving Dominican community who mostly concern themselves with comparative religious studies. Babylon 5 is also chosen to host an ecumenical conference at one point (involving Catholics, a Baptist church complete with gospel choir and a delegation from the Church of Elvis). In the Bad Future shown in "The Deconstruction of Falling Stars", orders of monks also preserve humans' knowledge after nuclear war wipes out civilization, much like monasteries did during the Dark Ages. Humanity's main distinction is just how many extant religions there are; in an event in "The Parliment of Dreams" where all the ambassadors were displaying their cultures' dominant faiths, the Human exhibition was just a long line of people who all had different beliefs. Among the human main characters: Sinclair is a Catholic, and was instructed by Jesuits as an adolescent. Ivanova is originally a lapsed Jew but reconnects with her faith in the first season (and just to clarify, this is treated as a positive development). Franklin is a Foundationist, a syncretic future religion which holds that all the galaxy's existing faiths reflect some part of a greater truth (rather like real-life Unitarian Universalists). Garibaldi is agnostic but was raised Catholic. Zack Allen's religion is unknown, but he believes in Heaven. Sheridan doesn't follow an organised religion, describing his beliefs as "eclectic". To further muddle things, Sheridan himself becomes something of a messianic figure after coming back from the dead. Among the aliens: Narns like G'Kar follow the teachings of a variety of gurus. G'Kar is a follower of G'Quan, and apparently has some prominence among them: he is shown reading religious texts, leading ceremonies, and, at one point, writing a religious text of his own. Meanwhile, Naâ€™Toth is non-religious. Londo makes several references to various Centauri deities, including some dead Emperors. He owns several statuettes of various deities, and while he doesn't seem to be overly religious he pays at least lip service to his people's gods. Delenn and Lennier are prominent members of the Minbari Religious caste, though Minbari religion makes little outright reference to gods and seems more focused on personal enlightenment. That said, they do revere a sort of messianic figure in their history named Valen, and often swear in Valen's name, which is really interesting once we learn that Valen is Delenn's friend and former B5 station commander, Jeffrey Sinclair, a human sent back in time a thousand years to lead the Minbari in their time of need. There is also a random Pak'ma'ra who makes reference to a religious text to explain why Pak'ma'ra eat carrion but refuse seafood. The portrayals aren't always positive; in "Confessions and Lamentations", the deeply religious Markab race die out in their entirety because they cling to their beliefs rather than embracing science, and a young alien boy is killed by his parents in "Believers", because they believe a simple surgical procedure (to remove a pulmonary cyst that is slowly choking him to death) has turned their child into a soulless monster.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_f9742e61	comment	Dragonriders of Pern is a world without religion. The expressions "Jays" and "by all that's holy" are still in use, but only as swears. "Beyond Between" heavily implies that there is an afterlife, though.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_fb9c177d	comment	Transformers fanfiction Eugenesis: The people of Cybertron have taken on this attitude after the first time Unicron showed up to eat everyone, with "theo-scientists" pouring out of the woodwork to calmly dismantle every aspect of Cybertron's religious texts. Of course, even they haven't figured out how the Matrix functions. And they become oddly quiet when the subject of the built-in kill-switch every Cybertronian has comes up.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_fc612179	comment	The Skylark Series has an early SF aversion before this trope ever got off the ground: the heroes make First Contact with the Kondalian civilization, which is slightly more advanced than Earth, but will still has a state-sanctioned religion, though it has a mythologized take on evolutionary theory. The idea is supposed to be that Kondal has been a technologically advanced society for so long that its religion has come to incorporate scientific facts, which is still a unique approach even today. However, this is ultimately not very important, and the sequels written after SF pulp magazines came into being have no other religious aliens.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ff9ab17f	comment	Of all the Trek series, Star Trek: The Next Generation was by far the most overt about it, with Picard explicitly invoking this trope in speeches in "Encounter at Farpoint" and "Who Watches the Watchers". Not coincidentally it was when Roddenberry fully controlled things.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions / int_ff9ca30	comment	Metroid Prime 3: Corruption: Samus visits the planet Bryyo, which is covered in the ruins of a golden age, the history of which wavers between And Man Grew Proud and this trope. The Reptilicus people there originally had magical powers, then some of them learned how to use technology, and they decided that this was cooler than "primitive" magic. The Chozo warned the Reptilicus not to abandon their religious traditions, instead suggesting that they should embrace them along with their technological progress, as the Chozo themselves had done. Instead, the Lords of Science honked off the magic-using mystics, and there was a big magic-vs-technology war that tore the planet apart. Literally. The Lords of Science won (at first) because by salvaging the planet (more or less), they could prove that their side was better, but this led to the mystics finding their secret location and wiping them out. Without the Lords of Science, the remaining Reptilicus devolved into magical barbarism.
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions	processingCategory2	The War on Straw
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Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions	processingCategory2	We Will Not Use an Index in the Future
Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Your Name / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Cartographer's Handbook (Audio Play) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Sojourn (Audio Play) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Spider-Verse (Comic Book) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Supergod (Comic Book) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Aeon Entelechy Evangelion / Fan Fic / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Eugenesis	seeAlso	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality / Fan Fic / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
A More Flawed Gem (Fanfic) / int_3bf5fd48	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Earth's Alien History (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Empathy (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Mass Effect: Murphy's Law (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Princess of the Blacks (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
RDNA-verse (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Rocketship Voyager (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The War of the Masters (Fanfic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Agora / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Alien³ / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Alien: Resurrection / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Babylon 5: The Lost Tales: Voices in the Dark / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
El Crimen del Padre Amaro / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Errementari / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Fahrenheit 451 (2018) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Forbidden Planet / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
God's Not Dead / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
God's Not Dead: A Light in Darkness / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Plan 9 from Outer Space / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Prometheus / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Religulous / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Serenity / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Blood on Satan's Claw / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Decalogue / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The War Game / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Warlock (1989) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Alien (Franchise) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Chronicles of Riddick (Franchise) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
A Canticle for Leibowitz / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Across the Universe (Beth Revis) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Ada, or Ardor / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Anathem / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Arc of a Scythe / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Arrivals from the Dark / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Childhood's End / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
City of No End / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Codex Alera / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Colony / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Corpus Delicti / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Creatures of Light and Darkness / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Crest of the Stars / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Demon Squad / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Divergent / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Dragonriders of Pern / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Dune / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Eight Worlds / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Eldraeverse / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Foundation and Earth / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Giants Series / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Go, Mutants! / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Horus Heresy / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Humanx Commonwealth / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Ibyabek / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Isaac Asimov's Caliban / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Known Space / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Last and First Men / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Legend of the Galactic Heroes / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Live and Let Die / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Lucifer's Star / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Matador Series / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
May Day Eve / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Orphans of the Sky / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Percy Jackson and the Olympians / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Quantum Mortis A Man Disrupted / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Remember To Always Be Brave / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Sector General / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Seveneves / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Shadows of the Apt / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Slingshot / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Solaris / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Space Cadet (Rvbomally) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Star Trek: Ex Machina / int_3bf5fd48	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Stray Cat Strut / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Takeshi Kovacs / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Tales of the Five Hundred Kingdoms / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Teen Lit Wasteland / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Arts of Dark and Light / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Caves of Steel / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Culture / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Dinosaur Lords / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Dispossessed / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Draka / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Empire's Corps / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Empirium Trilogy / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Expanse / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Fall of the Sea People / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Fountains of Paradise / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Four Horsemen Universe / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Great God's War / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The High Crusade / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Lost Fleet / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Machine Stops / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Magicians / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Mayors / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Merchant Princes / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Night's Dawn Trilogy / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Songs of Distant Earth / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Space Odyssey Series / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Trees of Pride / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Till We Have Faces / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Time Enough for Love / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Uglies / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Upon a Cross of Trumpism / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
BlaTornet	seeAlso	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
OutGrownSuchSillySuperstitions	sameAs	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Political Stereotype	seeAlso	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Rmctagg09	seeAlso	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
TheBrothersKaramazov	seeAlso	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
A Centaur's Life (Manga) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Alice in Borderland (Manga) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Astra Lost in Space (Manga) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
SAYER (Podcast) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Tropes N to S / Real Life / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Gamer's Alliance (Roleplay) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Blake's 7 / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Brave New World / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Childhood's End / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Defying Gravity / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
House of the Dragon / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Into the Badlands / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Star Trek: Enterprise / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Star Trek: Voyager / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Orville / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Tomes And Talismans / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Upload / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Chronicles of Darkness (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
CthulhuTech (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Dark Heresy (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Eclipse Phase (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Hc Svnt Dracones (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Mutant UA (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Traveller (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Werewolf: The Forsaken (Tabletop Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Caroline, or Change (Theatre) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Anno 1800 (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Arcanum: Of Steamworks & Magick Obscura (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Beyond Earth (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Civilization: Beyond Earth (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Crisis in the Kremlin (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Gigastructural Engineering And More (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Half-Life 2 (Video Game) / int_3bf5fd48	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak (Video Game) / int_3bf5fd48	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
I Was a Teenage Exocolonist (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Might and Magic (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Sense: A Cyberpunk Ghost Story (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
StarCraft II (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Surviving Mars (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Outer Worlds (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Vampire: The Masquerade â€“ Redemption (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Sojourn (Web Animation) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Awkward Zombie (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Bio Apocalypse (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Doc Rat (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Intragalactic (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Leaving the Cradle (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Leftover Soup (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Metanoia (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Quentyn Quinn, Space Ranger (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Sore Thumbs (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Suicide for Hire (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Sorcerer's Apprentice (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Unsounded (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Vexxarr (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Orion's Arm (Website) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Overused Sci-Fi Settings (Website) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Reddit (Website) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Pariah Nexus / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Death Gate Cycle / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The First Law / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Star Ruler (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
Sword of the Stars (Video Game) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions
The Phoenix Requiem (Webcomic) / int_66181568	type	Outgrown Such Silly Superstitions

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