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The population of an area, whether it be a small region, a country, a planet, or a Galactic Superpower has grown so large it is causing problems. The result might be societal instability, war, ecological catastrophe, cannibalism... the specifics do not really matter — what matters is that there are too many people and it is causing problems. This is often a feature of a dystopia and Cyberpunk, and can be used as a form of Green Aesop about uninhibited growth in a finite area. May be prevented or resolved through the use of Population Control, settling new, uninhabited places, or even good old-fashioned Depopulation Bombs if the powers that be feel it is the only way. If unhandled, the crisis can cause The End of the World as We Know It if it grows severe enough as riots run rampant for what resources remain. This is one of the threats of the Explosive Breeder — even if it's not malicious, the sheer amount of offspring will eventually cause trouble if left unchecked. An Eco-Terrorist may resort to a Final Solution largely out of fear of a Malthusian crisis. The idea of overpopulation is often used by proponents to justify genocidal policies, arguing that it is easier to reduce or control the population ("coincidentally", it's usually a specific population they personally dislike or don't care for) than to figure out ways to increase or share the resources available to everyone. Sufficed to say, depending on which population they decide must be culled, it can get pretty racist and classist. The Earth-centric version of this trope is largely broken in contemporary and 20 Minutes into the Future stories due to technological and societal advancements in our real world: for example, if anything our industrialized farming and agricultural technologies lead us to over-produce food, and problems with starvation are more about political and economic questions of distribution (aka "who is permitted access to the food?") rather than "we do not have enough to feed everyone". Many nations have also started to project a population decline (and all the problems that brings) due to undergoing a demographic transition. However, this hasn't stopped people from using the idea of overpopulation as a bad faith argument for their own agendas (such as anti-immigration). See the Analysis page for more details about how the problems of "overpopulation" have many different causes. |
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In Worm, the predecessors of the Entities experienced cycles of overpopulation followed by wars over the remaining resources which would push them to near-extinction. Realizing that the cycle was unsustainable as the nutrient sources were depleting faster each time, they devised the plan to leave their homeworld and infest other planets. Their descendants are aware that even this is a temporary solution, as eventually there will be no new planets to feed on and are trying to find a solution. | |
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Rocketship Voyager is a Star Trek: Voyager fanfic written In the Style of a 1954 sci-fi magazine pulp, set in the far future of 2020. Earth is on the verge of famine with a population of over seven billion crammed into megacities. It's implied the Green Revolution never got started due to war and political conflict. The birth control pill has been invented but it had little effect on the morals of society, so there's increasing pressure for the aggressive colonization of Mars and Venus rather than adopt controversial measures of Population Control. | |
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In Stand on Zanzibar by John Brunner, the world is so overcrowded that people with minor birth defects can't get permits to breed. In The Sheep Look Up by the same author, the problem manifests as extreme pollution. |
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Spider-Man: No Way Home: This is what the botched memory erasure spell threatens to inflict on the MCU. Since Peter’s last-second alterations caused the spell to end up being "everyone who already knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man should still remember", this ends up attracting literally everyone who knows from the infinite number of timelines in the multiverse towards the MCU. | |
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Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann: Adai village has no ability to expand its pool of resources, and so limits its population to exactly 100. The village's leader presents this idea as religious dogma (from an ancient text no one can actually read), and enforces it by banishing someone whenever a birth brings things over the limit. Note that it's implied the village has done this for hundreds or thousands of years, but an indefinitely stable population would require a thousand or more people. | |
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The Outer Limits (1995): In "Manifest Destiny", Earth is severely overpopulated and other planets are being terraformed and colonized as a result. In "Stasis", Earth's severe overpopulation results in its resources being significantly depleted. |
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When the Howards' families return to Earth at the end of Methuselah's Children they find that the planet has become so crowded that there's literally no room left for them, fortunately one of the Howards has invented FTL and offers it freely. Still, in the distant sequel Time Enough for Love Lazarus Long mentions in one of his stories that at one point Earth's government declared everyone over 70 to be legally dead in an attempt at population control. | |
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Calvin and Hobbes: One infamous Sunday strip had Calvin deliver a report on overpopulation where a pair of deer shoot an office worker to help curb the population and prevent famine, in a ghoulish inversion of a common (and accurate) justification for deer hunting. Unsurprisingly, this results in yet another note from school being sent to Calvins parents. | |
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We learn that Thanos had taken Gamora from her homeworld as a child after executing half the planet's population, but small visual details in Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) show that Gamora is now the last survivor, meaning Thanos' "grand plan" was a failure even then. | |
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In Civilization V every city has an assigned number representing its population. Densely populated cities will produce more research and are able to work more tiles and specialist spots. They also produce more unhappiness which, if left to fester will severely decrease your nations growth and golden age frequency. If your citizens are unhappy enough, civil wars might break out. | |
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Z.P.G. (Zero Population Growth) features a world so overcrowded that having babies is banned for thirty years on pain of death. Its plot involves a couple having a baby in secret and having to flee. | |
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In Daniel Quinn's Ishmael (1992), the title character (an intelligent ape) says that world population will increase as long as food production increases. A crisis like this will inevitably happen unless food production is cut down to a more natural scale, even though it means people in poorer areas will starve. | |
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The Ark in Brink! is a City on the Water which was originally designed to host a population of 5000, but an influx of refugees due to global warming caused its population to swell to 45000. As a result, many of these refugees were forced to live in poorly designed and shoddily constructed shantytowns, and many feel resentment toward The Founders, Ark's original inhabitants who live in safety and luxury. | |
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In Avengers: Infinity War, it's revealed that overpopulation and the subsequent abuse of natural resources led to the destruction of Titan and the death of all its people... except for Thanos. His desire to save the rest of the universe from suffering the same fate as Titan has motivated his actions in the Marvel Cinematic Universe ever since, and in Infinity War his plan is to finally gather all the Infinity Stones and use their combined power to simultaneously wipe out half the universe's population. He ultimately succeeds. We learn that Thanos had taken Gamora from her homeworld as a child after executing half the planet's population, but small visual details in Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) show that Gamora is now the last survivor, meaning Thanos' "grand plan" was a failure even then. Avengers: Endgame shows that it backfired hard. Five years after the Snap, instead of teeming with life, from the brief shots we see of New York and San Francisco, indicate that the Earth left behind has stagnated at best, and is rotting at worst (and the space-based Avengers (Captain Marvel, Rocket Racoon, Nebula), state that the rest of the universe is no better, if not worse, off) - and that's on top of the wave of terror Thanos unleashed on his way to claim the Stones. Whales are returning to the Hudson River, and depopulated areas have been claimed by nature, but these small improvements pale in comparison to crumbling societies and despairing and barely-functional populations across the universe. Spider-Man: No Way Home: This is what the botched memory erasure spell threatens to inflict on the MCU. Since Peter’s last-second alterations caused the spell to end up being "everyone who already knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man should still remember", this ends up attracting literally everyone who knows from the infinite number of timelines in the multiverse towards the MCU. |
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Time for the Stars. The family of the twin protagonists live just above the poverty line because their birth raised them above the tax threshold. It's mentioned that the Earth barely has enough food to feed its population of five billion despite colonising the solar system, melting the Greenland icecap, putting a lake in the Sahara and farming the steppes. | |
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Make Room! Make Room! is set on an overcrowded future Earth. American ports are swamped by shiploads of starving Asian refugees; a wealthy man's mistress is allowed to pour the juices from his steak on her oatmeal as a special treat. Set in 1999 when the world population is an unmanageable 7 billion. | |
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Mass Effect: Even after the development of Faster-Than-Light Travel, it's noted In-Universe that in the late 22nd Century, Earth is still vastly overpopulated, with over 11 billion humans and an unknown number of aliens living on the planet, and dealing with problems caused by environmental damage which peaked a century ago. Earth's overpopulation and pollution is mocked by many aliens in the series, as an indication of humanity's inability to get its own "house in order", so to speak. A possible origin for protagonist Commander Shepard is to have grown up in a gang of orphan criminals in a polluted megatropolis on Earth. Drell society collapsed into warlordism due to the overpopulation of their homeworld, which they were unable to escape due to having no element zero. The hanar took pity on them and brought many of the survivors to their own homeworld Kahje as a Servant Race. After being uplifted from their homeworld to fight rachni, the krogans found little opposition that would keep their natural birthrate in check, often overpopulating planets in just a few generations. The salarians responded by devising a genophage which would make only one in a thousand krogan births viable. It would supposedly revert krogans' birthrate to what it was back on Tuchanka with all the fatality rates taken into account, which was sustainable... But the krogans saw the genophage as a particularly cowardly act of genocide, and turned to mercenarism to cope with their natural Blood Knight tendencies... which put their species at actual risk of extinction. The salarians themselves narrowly averted an overpopulation crisis very early in their society's development. Salarians are haplo-diploid egg layers; females lay eggs at regular intervals, with unfertilized eggs hatching into males and fertilized eggs hatching into females. This led to problems very much like those seen on Earth and Rakhana because of how quickly they reproduced. The salarians solved the problem by only allowing ten percent of all eggs to be fertilized, keeping their reproduction growth at a stable level. The quickness with which all salarians accepted this solution is why they expected the krogan to have the same reaction to the Genophage. |
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In Black & White 2, it's not the population itself so much as population density that causes problems. Your citizens will become unhappy if there is insufficient housing or food resources, or if their housing is too tightly packed (e.g. "skyscrapers", really tenements, are efficient with space but bad for happiness, while mansions with lots of space between them make for happy citizens but require lots of building room; villa clusters are generally the best choice). | |
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In Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019), Emma Russell, the human who frees King Ghidorah, believes that the Earth is overpopulated with humans leading to depletion of resources and pollution, and feels that releasing the monsters will help restore the earth to its natural green state. Of course none of the protagonists support her eco-radical theory about releasing the monsters to restore balance to the ecosystem and environment, as King Ghidorah is even more destructive than the humans. | |
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In Brickleberry, Steve creates an adorable and marketable hybrid species of rabbit and squirrels called Squabbits to attract tourists. Problem is, not only does the species breed even faster than its progenitors, it's also virtually unkillable, causing a massive population boom that devours almost all plant life in the park and soon turns the Squabbits carnivorous with a preference for human flesh. The rangers manage to defeat the horde by feeding them Pamela Anderson (who was there as part of a PETA protest), who turns out to be so riddled with toxins and disease that every single Squabbit dies a horrific and agonizing death. | |
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In The Vazula Chronicles, the triple kingdoms are becoming increasingly overcrowded, and Tilssted is starting to encroach into the kelp farms to the north, even though much of the merpeople's technology depends on kelp leaves. Merletta wonders if dry land holds knowledge or resources that could help with the crisis. In A Kingdom Restored, she learns how the triple kingdoms have traditionally dealt with the problem — by inciting a war between the cities to cull the population. | |
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In Homeworlds, a star system is overpopulated if it contains more than three pieces of the same color. Players can declare a "catastrophe" at an overpopulated system, destroying all the pieces in the overpopulated color. If a star in the system matches the overpopulated color, the star itself is destroyed. If that star is the system's only star, the whole system is destroyed. | |
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In the Gundam franchise, this is the impetus behind building the Space Colonies in many shows: the Earth had become overpopulated, so enormous space stations capable of supporting billions of people are built in orbit. A few series have gone further and included a Mars terraformation project in addition. | |
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In Known Space, Earth is so crowded that picking pockets isn't illegal — how could it be enforced? | |
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Tunnel in the Sky: China apparently conquered Australia and paved over the entire continent to make room for its growing population before the Portal Network was developed, now they chuck hordes of settlers to new worlds through the gates. | |
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Inverted in Pharaoh, and Emperor: Rise of the Middle Kingdom where underpopulation is a much bigger problem: due to the game mechanics, huge populations are easier to maintain by keeping the population happy in attractive, high-density housing rather than vast slums (the basic hut holds 5-20 people, the best high-density housing holds 80). Yes, the people consume more, but the higher population means more people to produce goods at a much faster rate than consumed. | |
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Farmer in the Sky: The Earth has so many people that everyone on the planet is put on strict food rationing. It's the major reason why the protagonists decide to emigrate to Ganymede (one of Jupiter's moons). Late in the novel one of the characters says that Earth's overpopulation will inevitably lead to a nuclear war within 40-70 years. | |
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In the Futurama episode "The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz", a wildlife preserve of penguins on Pluto gets covered in liquid dark matter that drastically increases their egg production (and the males started laying eggs, too), leading to them overpopulating and an Animal Wrongs Group deciding to give them a Mercy Kill to save them from a slower, more excruciating death when they exhaust their food supply. | |
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Avengers: Endgame shows that it backfired hard. Five years after the Snap, instead of teeming with life, from the brief shots we see of New York and San Francisco, indicate that the Earth left behind has stagnated at best, and is rotting at worst (and the space-based Avengers (Captain Marvel, Rocket Racoon, Nebula), state that the rest of the universe is no better, if not worse, off) - and that's on top of the wave of terror Thanos unleashed on his way to claim the Stones. Whales are returning to the Hudson River, and depopulated areas have been claimed by nature, but these small improvements pale in comparison to crumbling societies and despairing and barely-functional populations across the universe. | |
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Elysium: Among the problems that plague the dystopian Earth of the future is overpopulation, along with high crime, poverty, and medicine being restricted to the rich on Elysium. At the end of the film, all of Earth's people are approved as Elysium citizens and so can receive medicine, but the director admitted afterward that this was an Esoteric Happy Ending that would only worsen the overpopulation problem (though it does seem like contraception may also be provided). | |
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Referenced in A Christmas Carol, when Scrooge says that the poor should die in order to "decrease the surplus population." At the time this was written, overpopulation fears were often cited to justify the mistreatment of the poor. | |
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An overpopulation-induced resource crunch is stated in the introduction of Serenity to have prompted the settlement of the star cluster the Firefly franchise takes place in, and led to Earth becoming Earth That Was. | |
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Ender's Game: Due to overpopulation, most of Earth's nations have enforced laws stating families are to have no more than two children. However, a few nations such as Poland openly flout the law, with many large families but the consequence being that only the first two children are eligible for public education and benefits. The protagonist, Ender, is a rare example of a state-approved Third, as the International Fleet authorized his parents to have another child because they recognized military potential in their first two. Since Peter and Valentine were examined but rejected for various reasons (Peter for being too aggressive, Valentine as too pacifistic), the military hopes Ender might be a balance of their traits. | |
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Rampage (2009) has Bill Williamson, an angry and highly intelligent man working a low-paying job as an auto mechanic, go on a killing spree upon his hometown of Tenderville, Oregon and he uses this trope as his Casus belli to justify his killings. | |
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The Great Alicorn Hunt: The idea of an overpopulation crisis is mocked when Luna and Twilight discuss the pony version of Malthus, whose predictions regarding overpopulation would have had them all starve to death eight hundred years before. Luna says that "he was a buffoon who insisted that we would all starve to death because Celestia and I 'let' Equestria's population grow too fast, and that our numbers would exceed our farmers' ability to feed us all." She then proceeds to point out that Malthus "did not account for our farmers learning new and better ways to grow; he did not account for our ability to get more out of less land, or that we would have more land, period. He certainly did not account for the fact that, as our prosperity grew, our birth rate declined... And even when the blessings of foals were abundant, we had more than a surfeit of food, and room, and love for all of them." However, she also confirms that they have several contingency plans just in case, with their Panacea plan (to create a cure for the process of decay with old age, letting ponies have far longer to create, innovate and generally improve, letting them spread out among the stars) being one of them. | |
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In Aeon 14, the Sol system's government resorted to extrasolar colonization beginning in the 2100s to try and deal with population-induced resource strains, hence the colony ship Intrepid around which the series revolves. Even so, it's mentioned once in the early books that the Sol system's population in 4123 is now so high that they're in danger of mining out the entire Sol system within the main characters' (admittedly hundreds of years long) lifetimes. The advent of Faster-Than-Light Travel in the 5,000 year Time Dilation-induced Time Skip between books 3 and 4 takes the strain off, but also causes a partial collapse of civilization and loss of much knowledge because interstellar warfare is now practical and humanity no longer has to be as efficient with its resources. | |
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Warhammer 40,000 Of the Imperium of Man's many, many problems, this is surprisingly not one of them. Yes, many worlds house billions of people in Hive cities, but this is actually encouraged. Most of the logistics and spacing problems are handwaved (e.g. many worlds resort to recycling the dead into edible material), but it recognizes keeping people suppressed, indoctrinated, and packed like sardines is a very efficient way to manage very large populations. It's something of a joke that the Imperium is short on everything but people, and human labor, press-ganged or volunteered, is a major driver of the Imperium's military and industrial forces. Later Edition show that many Hives are supported by other worlds in their system. This is actually played straight on Earth, where the population is so massive that there simply isn't enough food or jobs to go around. Also averted with the Orks. Humanity is the most populous species behind only the Orks, and they manage to support their population by bringing their ecology with them to keep themselves fed, and the occasional mass migration. Also, they have a strong population control in the form of constant violence aimed in all directions. |
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Judge Dredd: Part of the reason the setting is so crime-ridden is that most of the planet was rendered uninhabitable by nuclear war, forcing people to live in the megacities. The only alternative consists of trying to live in the Cursed Earth, the radioactive Death World outside, which is basically suicide (though some hardier people and mutants manage to survive out there). Exacerbating the problem is the equally high population of Job Stealing Robots, which keeps unemployment rates soaring. | |
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In The Sheep Look Up by the same author, the problem manifests as extreme pollution. | |
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In a '90s Silver Surfer arc, Death resurrected Thanos and tasked him with destroying half of the universe's sentient life in order to prevent a massive population crisis. Thanos demonstrated the problem to the Surfer by showing him the effects that overpopulation and a lack of natural resources had on an inhabited planet, and claimed that the rest of the universe would soon meet with a similar fate. This plot eventually led to The Infinity Gauntlet crossover, where Thanos used the Infinity Gems to accomplish Death's goal. | |
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In Conquest of Space this is given as a reason for the mission to Mars: to get its resources to prevent an overpopulation crisis on Earth. It depends on Artistic License - Astronomy since in reality, Mars is a cold and barren rock, whereas the Mars in the film has soil that a seed from Earth can sprout in. | |
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Aftermath: The episode "Population Overload" explores exactly this, when the population of Earth spontaneously doubles overnight. At first humanity tries to cope by rationing resources and rapidly expanding construction, but eventually society breaks down, resulting in huge population movements and an eventual Depopulation Bomb. | |
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In The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, all the planets of the solar system have been colonized, but Earth is still so overpopulated that the government has had to institute a draft to get people moving to the colonies fast enough. Life on the colonies isn't terrible, but it's harsh enough that volunteers don't begin to keep up with Earth's needs. Deferments are available for those with sufficiently important jobs, but this just adds an extra fear to the fear of losing your job. | |
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Dark Life: Though the increase demand for land is actually cause by sea levels rising rather than a population boom, but the effect is basically the same. Most people live in one or two room apartments crammed into buildings, Space is considered a status symbol (there are even waiting lists to move to apartments that are both more spacious and higher up) and story focus on the small group of people who had colonize the sea floor in an attempt to reclaim the land lost to the sea. | |
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The Ant's plot to kill the dinosaurs in Of Ants and Dinosaurs is kicked off when the dinosaurs refuse to get their population under control. | |
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In The Starchild Trilogy, the population of Earth has reached the thirteen billion mark, and the only thing which has prevented chaos and a massive die-off is the dictatorial control of the powerful computer known as "The Plan of Man". | |
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In the Ed, Edd n Eddy episode "Flea-Bitten Ed", the Eds agree to clean up Rolf's farm animals but as while Ed is having a severe allergic reaction, he loses track of two bunnies who start multiplying through rapid reproduction and they overwhelm the Cul-de-sac in the end. The Eds got out lucky by managing to escape to the roof (with a TV and couch) and the episode ends with Eddy screaming at the other kids suffocating from the rabbit flood to shut up so he can watch TV. | |
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The OT III doctrine of Scientology — one of the most well-known elements of it due to being famously illustrated by South Park — says that humans are the end result of galactic conqueror Xenu dealing with an overpopulation crisis 75 million years ago across 76 planets, each with an average population of 178 billion. Countless aliens were gathered, frozen, and compacted into singular bodies as a means of addressing it. | |
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In the Warrior Cats prequel series Dawn of the Clans, the series starts with the Tribe of Rushing Water suffering from overpopulation: the Tribe has grown too big to survive on the amount of prey that their environment can provide, and cats are starving to death. Their leader has a vision of new lands teeming with prey, and half the Tribe leaves, eventually becoming the forest Clans, while the other half remains in their mountain home and is able to support themselves better with fewer mouths to feed. | |
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Eternal Evil have the Bad Ending depicting humanity's population, as warned by the Vampire Lord, eventually going out of control to beyond 14 billion, and mankind's damage to the environment beyond repair. It leads to a massive power struggle and depopulation, with 43 million people surviving in the aftermath of the 2104 war. You're a human-turned-immortal vampire at this point and you get to witness the downfall of humanity, as predicted. | |
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In Stellaris: Population can cause no shortage of problems if not handled. As the population working your Empire's jobs increases, the demand for consumer goods and amenities increase. Both are produced by specific jobs which means you need to set aside a subset of your population and economy to keep the rest of the population happy as failing to do this will lower the planet's stability, which lowers production on top of the risk that the unhappy population will turn to crime to get what they want. Overcrowding (as in, too many people, not enough housing) will eventually also erode the stability of the planet, but unless your entire Galactic Superpower is bursting to the brim, the people will generally just move to greener, more spacious pastures. Of course, no one says you have to give the people what they want - if you want to maintain the planet's stability through force, that's perfectly doable Overcrowding is, however, dwarfed by the damage that having too few jobs for a population can present. People without a home generally tend to make do with what they can, but if they don't have a job, they will near invariably turn to a life of crime to keep themselves fed. The game warns you when there's a substantial risk of this and prompts you to give special benefits to the unemployed (Increasing the strain on your ressources) or risk the increased crime (reducing the output of the planet). You can avoid this completely by enacting a policy of civil welfare - which increases population happiness as well as preventing the unemployment crime, but welfare does not come cheap either. |
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Industrial Society and Its Future: This is one of many modern problems that Kaczynski blames on the system. | |
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Overpopulation is one of the factors that jumpstarts the plot in Terra Nova (the other one being extreme pollution) - the plot being "send some humans through a wormhole to an alternate Earth resembling the Cretaceous Period." | |
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In the backstory of the RCN series, Earth was so overpopulated that it started shipping people to offworld colonies without their consent, which eventually led to a galaxy-wide war that ended in a new dark age and Earth being so thoroughly bombarded with asteroids that the continents were rendered unrecognizable. Adele once wryly observes that, technically, Earth got what it wanted. | |
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The setting for The White Men, is a dystopian future version of Denmark, which underwent such a crisis and transformed into a fascist state where the State Sec, the titular "White Men", kills off anyone who they deem unfit to live, which includes the handicapped and chronically-ill, people who commit any sort of crime, even minor ones, anyone who reaches the age of 65, and even students who fail to pass their exams with a high enough grade. Throughout the story, it becomes evident that even if these draconian and inhumane policies were at some point necessary to solve the crisis, that is definitely not the case anymore, as the country currently teeters on the edge on of a serious underpopulation crisis, and it is obvious that the fascist government only still upholds them as a means of controlling the leftover population through the fear they instil in them. | |
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The premise of Torchwood: Miracle Day is that people have stopped dying. Governments do the math and realise that the world population level is going to rise to unsustainable levels within a few years. | |
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Crusader Kings II: Played with for nomads such as the Khazars and Mongols. The Nomad government form has a special resource called "population" and get bigger armies and increased income the longer it is allowed to grow. Once it reaches 90% of maximum, they gain access to the unique "Nomad Invasion" casus belli which allows them to conquer entire de jure kingdoms from other realms. This essentially means overpopulation is good for the nomads and bad for everyone else (since their cavalry- and horse archer-heavy armies can be difficult to counter). The "Prosperity" measurement added in The Reaper's Due measures wealth and population of a province. Higher Prosperity increases your tax income and can unlock additional holding slots in a province, but also increases the province's vulnerability to epidemics. It also has an opposite form, "Depopulation". |
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Starship Troopers: Rico is assigned a class essay on how war is always the result of overpopulation, from the Crusades to the current Bug War. And that humanity doesn't dare institute Population Control, lest some other species like the Bugs expand first and wipe them out for more real estate. | |
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A central theme in Soylent Green. Earth is so overpopulated that the only way to feed the people (other than the wealthy who can afford normal food) is through a product called Soylent Red and Yellow, which is made from processed plankton, and even that is in short supply. A new product called Soylent Green comes at the market and in the film's climax it turns out that the oceans are dead, have been for some time and Soylent Green is made of people! | |
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