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A parody retcon is when a creator, in response to negative critical reaction to his or her work, handwaves the work's failings by claiming that it was supposed to be a parody all along, and that in fact the critic is wrong for taking it seriously. It's a subtrope of the Deliberate Flaw Retcon. In general, people won't believe a creator who says this. However, with Poe's Law being what it is, sometimes this will happen even if the creator really did intend the work to be a parody but was too subtle with it or didn't go far enough with it. Bottom line — if you have to explain to people that they shouldn't take it seriously, you'd better have solid evidence that this is the case. See also I Meant to Do That, "Just Joking" Justification, External Retcon, and Author's Saving Throw. The direct opposite of a Denied Parody, which is when people think it's a parody when the creator intended it to be taken seriously. Not to be confused with parodying retcons. |
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The Wicker Man (2006) remake by Neil LaBute was widely panned. Its star Nicolas Cage insists that it shouldn't be taken seriously, noting that he stopped doing so himself when he punched out a woman while wearing a bear suit. | |
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The Irate Gamer commonly does this, either in response to accusations of plagiarism of other Caustic Critics like The Angry Video Game Nerd and Armake21, or in response to pointing out mistakes in his videos (when he doesn't re-edit the video, delete the comments, and pretend the mistake was never there). | |
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The Simpsons: "The Principal and the Pauper" remains notorious for its retconning of Skinner's backstory, claiming that he took over the "real" Skinner's identity after he disappeared in The Vietnam War. Ken Keeler defended it by saying that it was supposed to be a joke on people who proclaim that They Changed It, Now It Sucks!. The problem with that is that people didn't just criticize it for the retcon; they also didn't like that barring the conclusion, the situation and Skinner's angst are more or less completely Played for Drama, with very few jokes made on the whole topic and some incredibly maudlin music and dialogue. Then again, Keeler has also suggested that the message may have been garbled somewhere in development. | |
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Back to the Future, per film legend, was nearly called Spaceman From Pluto at the insistence of a meddling executive. He went as far as to send Steven Spielberg a note asking for this change, along with a few suggestions for how to work the title into the movie (because it had nothing to do with the movie otherwise). Spielberg responded by thanking the exec for the joke note and telling him how everyone found it really funny — and the executive was too proud to admit he was serious and went along with it. | |
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United Passions is a film about the formative years of world soccer governing body FIFA, which was widely panned for being melodramatic and glossing over the organization's history of corruption — especially given that FIFA was in the midst of a serious corruption scandal at the time of the film's release. The stars later tried to claim that they knew people wouldn't take kindly to the film and tried to make the characters look as cartoonish and ridiculous as possible — especially Tim Roth, who played FIFA chief Sepp Blatter, who in real life was forced to resign as part of the scandal. | |
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In Ozy and Millie, Millie tries to do this with one of her school assignments. | |
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Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal parodies this with the page image (original comic here). | |
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Wild Things is generally seen as a Guilty Pleasure if nothing else, but the sheer volume of unintentional hilarity has lead some to hypothesize that it may have been a Stealth Parody of erotic thrillers all along. It was directed by an indie filmmaker with a history of making clever movies, and it gives a juicy (and funny) supporting role to a well-known comedian in Bill Murray, so the hypothesis isn't unreasonable. | |
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Inverted with The Incredible Melting Man. The director has gone on record to say that he intended it from the start to be a parody of monster flicks (which considering its ridiculous premise and being made about 20 years after the heyday of such movies in the 1950s, isn't hard to believe), but that the final product isn't one. It ended up being a hot mess thanks to Executive Meddling, when the studio insisted that he play it all straight against his wishes. | |
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Robin Thicke has tried to pass "Blurred Lines" off as a parody in the wake of its lyrics being denounced as misogynistic. He even went so far as to claim the Anchorman character Ron Burgundy as inspiration. | |
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Mommie Dearest is perhaps the Trope Codifier. After its poor initial reception, Paramount started advertising it as a parody a few weeks after its release, changing its movie posters to proclaim, "Meet the biggest MOTHER of them all!" | |
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The lead actress of Space Mutiny claimed that the whole thing was in fact a spoof of the sci-fi genre (possibly trying to save face after its appearance on Mystery Science Theater 3000). This might explain the cheesy sets and costumes, as well as the bizarre "ancient dentistry" scene. It doesn't explain why, of the three directors that worked on the film, one wanted his name removed, another has his buried deep in the credits, and the third isn't listed at all. | |
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There's Nothing Out There is quite clearly a parody, but the DVD commentary hangs a lampshade on the phenomenon, as the filmmakers jocularly insist that everything that didn't work was a parody but that everything that did was serious. | |
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Sonichu creator Christine Weston Chandler insists that the webcomic is a parody, but it's not clear what she's even trying to satirize. It turns out that she was worried about avoiding copyright infringement and had heard that parodies qualify as Fair Use (this didn't stop her from absolutely flying off the handle when she saw actual parodies of her work, such as Asperchu). | |
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The creators of CinemaSins have usually responded to critique of their videos by claiming that they're intended to be satirical, and that the narrator of the series is more of a "character" who represents anal-retentive Caustic Critics on the Internet. They also claim that a certain percentage of the sins written for each video are intentionally wrong "as a joke". Since none of them are actually presented in such a way, how do you know which are which? Well, if you can prove the point wrong, then that was obviously one of the "intentionally wrong" sins and you just missed the joke! | |
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Deafula was said to be a parody, and was even renamed Young Deafula in some places. The director's reason for the conspicuous lack of jokes? Only deaf people would get it. | |
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Secretariat was largely well received, but one reviewer, Andrew O'Hehir of Salon.com, gave it an extremely bizarre negative review. Among other things, he accused the movie of being racist (and pro-Tea Party) simply because the Hispanic "villain" was "terrorist-flavored" and his horse's name, Sham, implies evil. (This despite the film being Based on a True Story, so those elements all happened in Real Life.) He also used the director's Christianity to compare the movie to the works of Leni Reifenstahl. When Roger Ebert, himself a liberal, took issue with the review, O'Hehir tried to claim he was just being hyperbolic, and that it was "supposed to be funny, and also to provoke a response." Few believed him; if nothing else, Poe's Law would have been working against him. | |
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An in-universe example happens in Victorious episode "Jade Dumps Beck". Robbie is forced to review Trina's one woman show before opening night. Predictably, the show is terrible, but Trina harasses and threatens Robbie until he gives her show a good review. After telling André the play was "So bad, it was laughable", André suggests that Robbie review it like a comedy, which he does. Trina is furious at first, but after getting a standing ovation on show night, she goes along with it. | |
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Far Cry 3 lead writer Jeffrey Yohalem responded to criticism of the game's use of Mighty Whitey by announcing that the plot was actually a satire. No one believed him. | |
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Watch_Dogs received overwhelming criticism mostly aimed at its protagonist, Aiden Pearce, for being a Never My Fault Dirty Coward Failure Hero and Hypocrite who ruins his family's life with his Roaring Rampage of Revenge. Alongside this was the games extreme Gameplay and Story Segregation where the character espouses a Never Hurt an Innocent Vigilante Man but spends most of the sidequests killing people for money while working with sociopaths and serial killers. This is so drastic that some have interpreted Aiden and the game itself as being a Deconstruction of typical video game protagonists. When asked about this, writer Kevin Shortt said it was entirely intentional. However, this has been taken to be this trope in trying to save face, as these comments only came years later and in response to blog posts, and ignores the various merchandising of selling "Aiden's iconic hat and jacket" on the Ubisoft store and that in universe Aiden's characterisation isn't the only issue with the game. As a result, many people believe this was Shortt just taking an opportunity to save face. | |
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Manos: The Hands of Fate was originally billed as a horror movie but became famously So Bad, It's Good, enough to pick up a cult following. The director responded that it worked better as a parody and suggested that it might be even funnier if it got a Gag Dub — and did so even before the Mystery Science Theater 3000 episode proved him right and made the movie more famous. | |
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Monster a-Go Go was claimed to be a parody of some sort by Gordon Lewis, although what exactly it's supposed to parody is unclear. | |
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Claudio Fragasso tried pulling this off with Troll 2 after the release of the documentary about it, Best Worst Movie. The people who worked with him on the film say otherwise; he apparently thought he was a genius. There are moments in the film that are meant to be amusing in their own right, such as Elliot abruptly appealing to diplomacy in a showdown with the Goblins or the reveal of the secret weapon as being a double-decker baloney sandwich, but they were clearly written as a counterpoint to a genuine attempt at horror. | |
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In-universe example in Darths & Droids: Jim's unseen campaign was intended to be "the GREATEST DRAMATIC STORY EVER!" When the others tell him it was hilarious, he replies "I completely intended it to be hilarious." | |
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In Mr. Boop, this is one potential interpretation of whatever the heck is happening in-universe over Book IV. Alec tells new Love Interest Liz that he drew the Mr. Boop comic as a joke to make his friends laugh and kept running with it when it became popular, but the rest of the storyline makes it very clear that he really is obsessively in love with Betty Boop and drawn to the Self-Insert Fic fantasy the comic depicted, as his "Journal Comic" Mr. Mr. Boop increasingly becomes indistinguishable from Mr. Boop, with Liz slowly transmuting into Betty. note Out-of-universe, of course, the whole thing was obviously a joke from day 1. Probably. | |
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Final Fantasy: A lot of Final Fantasy V's fans argue against criticism of the game's Lighter and Softer nature, daft Cliché Storm elements, and Large Ham Generic Doomsday Villain Big Bad by insisting it's a parody of Final Fantasy games as a whole. There are a few sequences that qualify as parody of how these games tend to go down (Bartz waking up from a meaningful dream about his destiny to discover his party staring at him freaking out, the whole Solve the Soup Cans sequence with the Ronkan door switch), but for the most part it's a normal Final Fantasy with jokes in. This trope was, however, invoked for the Game Boy Advance remake, which re-translated the game in a sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek fashion, with such gems as Bartz declaring a Giant Enemy Crab has "been served" and a librarian's advice to "take a look, it's in this book." |
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The Room (2003) is probably the most famous example. Tommy Wiseau (director, writer, and star) intended the film to be a dramatic melodrama, only for it to be So Bad, It's Good and critically panned on its release. The film's "fans" asked him if he meant the film to be funny, and in a fit of Ascended Fanon, he started calling it a Black Comedy (it even says so on the DVD case). Everyone else involved with the production claims that Wiseau treated the project with the utmost seriousness during filming, and they further suspect that the whole affair plot was based on a real past relationship of Wiseau's. Most fans of the movie are inclined not to believe Wiseau, if for no other reason that he only started calling it a "black comedy" when the idea was suggested to him, and he still describes the film's contents in melodramatic, passionate terms. | |
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Discussed in John Mulaney & The Sack Lunch Bunch, when John, questioned by the kids if the special is supposed to be sincere or ironic, muses that it's entirely up to critical reception in the end, and decides that that's the first lesson of the day: pretending to know what you're doing will make you successful. | |
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In 2011, PETA created Super Tanooki Skin 2D, a game about a tanuki trying to reclaim its skinned fur from Mario, and said that the Mario games were sending the message that it was okay to wear fur. After the expected backlash and an official statement from Nintendo, PETA claimed it was all "tongue-in-cheek". PETA did the same with Pokémon in Pokémon Black and Blue. | |
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It's now claimed that R.O.T.O.R. was a parody all along, despite the poster, video box, description, and advertising not saying a word about it. | |
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When the next-gen version of Call of Duty: Ghosts was revealed, one of the promoted features was "fish that moved out of the way you got near them". Gamers were quick to point out this was not a new thing, specifically pointing to Super Mario 64 (which came out 17 years earlier). They since then said it was a joke, despite not sounding like one. | |
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A lot of Final Fantasy V's fans argue against criticism of the game's Lighter and Softer nature, daft Cliché Storm elements, and Large Ham Generic Doomsday Villain Big Bad by insisting it's a parody of Final Fantasy games as a whole. There are a few sequences that qualify as parody of how these games tend to go down (Bartz waking up from a meaningful dream about his destiny to discover his party staring at him freaking out, the whole Solve the Soup Cans sequence with the Ronkan door switch), but for the most part it's a normal Final Fantasy with jokes in. This trope was, however, invoked for the Game Boy Advance remake, which re-translated the game in a sarcastic, tongue-in-cheek fashion, with such gems as Bartz declaring a Giant Enemy Crab has "been served" and a librarian's advice to "take a look, it's in this book." | |
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Invoked in-universe in the Blackadder the Third episode "Ink and Incapability". When Blackadder has reason to convince the Prince Regent that he does want to be the patron of Dr Johnson's dictionary after all, he simply congratulates the Prince for making that decision. When George says he thought he told Johnson to get lost, Blackadder says "But surely that was a joke, sire. And a brilliant one." The bemused Prince says "It was rather brilliant, wasn't it?" | |
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A bizarre variant happened with the Toymaker in Doctor Who. In his original appearance, the Toymaker was a blatantly racist caricature of a Chinese Mandarin played by a white actor. When he was brought back nearly 60 years later, he had switched to an atrocious (and in-universe fake) German accent instead, retroactively the original portrayal as one of many in-universe racist parodies by the Toymaker himself. | |
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The Lemon Demon song "The Satirist's Love Song" is about someone using this trope to explain a failed relationship: | |
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Maradonia Saga: Following the release of a book trailer that could charitably be called "amateurish", Gloria Tesch's publicist responded to criticism by classifying the trailer as "obviously comic satire". Much like her books, nobody bought it. | |
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The Concorde... Airport '79 was marketed as a comedy after critics pointed out all of its unintentionally hilarious scenes. It still didn't help at the box office. In fact, this was so indicative of the impending death of the air disaster movie genre that it paved the way for Airplane! to do a full-on parody and finish the job. | |
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Showgirls was savaged by critics and audiences when it came out, but has since attracted a fairly large cult following, in part from the contention that it's meant to be a satire. Opinions differ on whether it was supposed to be garden-variety So Bad, It's Good, a deconstruction of the traditional Rags to Riches story (like A Star Is Born or All About Eve), a satire of the Vegas entertainment scene, or even an indictment of fame and pop culture in general. But it's definitely not meant to be taken seriously. | |
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Discussed in the Folding Ideas episode, "Asian Girlz": Dan thinks this is not really that good of an excuse because satire can done badly. The example he uses is the eponymous song "Asian Girlz" — it was accused of fetishizing Asian women, so the band claimed it was satire, but the song doesn't offer any criticism of said fetishization and thus fails at satirizing it. | |
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