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Placebo Eureka Moment
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Alice has a problem and she goes to Bob for some advice. She pours her problems out to him, unaware that he isn't paying attention, but by the end of their "conversation" she's figured out the answer to her problem and thanks Bob for his help. On the other hand, Bob may be all set to give her some advice, but before he can get a word in, Alice comes up with a solution and runs off, thanking him, and leaving Bob bewildered, though he'll still probably say, "You're welcome." If Bob contributed anything at all, it was simply to serve as a catalyst for Alice to re-state (and thereby re-think) her problem. Bob may even be unconscious the whole time. In short, this is when a character has a "Eureka!" Moment without being inspired by the other character, but acts like the other character gave them just what they needed or thought they needed. Sometimes the other character isn't actually listening in the first place - they're asleep, or they've left the room, etc. Sometimes it's an animal, a person who they share no languages with, or The Silent Bob. When invoked, an outright inanimate object, such as a stuffed animal or the famous rubber duck, is another common alternative. A common variation is for a character to be visiting their therapist, who doesn't say much more than "hmm," and "I see," yet they leave the session feeling much better (in fact, psychoanalysis actually recommends that the therapist say as little as necessary, partly to prevent them from putting words in the patient's mouth and partly to encourage the patient to talk themselves). Also known as Rubber Ducking IRL. At the other extreme we have Glad I Thought of It. Compare Explain, Explain... Oh, Crap! for another situation where the act of describing the situation leads a character to a (much less helpful) understanding. See also Repeat What You Just Said. |
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Momo, by Michael Ende. Momo is a little girl who basically solves everyone's problems by simply listening to them. She never gives any advice at all, but the people who talk to her suddenly come up with ideas and solutions. | |
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House, usually at least Once an Episode. Sometimes House and Wilson will be in the same room and talking, but having two entirely different conversations, and something Wilson says or does causes House to get up and leave, generally without explanation. One time when both his team and Wilson were unavailable, House commandeered a passing janitor to be his sounding board; apparently he's physically incapable of being brilliant without someone there to witness itnote he does, however, spends most of the episode screwing up a (by his standards) simple prognosis because he is jumping on the weird conclusions without someone to propose simple ones (that he then refutes). Cuddy makes clear that he needs a team and orders him to hire a new one "I don't care how", which leads to the rest of the season having House testing interns in absurd ways. | |
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Happens in the Castle episode "Punked". Alexis asks her dad how to know if she's in love, but before he can give her any advice, she rambles on about it, coming to her own conclusion, but thanking him as if he gave her the answer. Quoth Castle as she runs off, "Glad we had this talk." | |
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Happens in The Simpsons episode "Who Shot Mr. Burns Part 2" when Lisa finds a clue and then thanks a nearby pigeon for pointing it out to her. | |
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In the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode "The Hub", Coulson consults with May, who is doing tai chi. May never speaks a word, and at the end of the conversation, Coulson thanks her for her help. | |
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Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency addresses the first example listed under Real Life below; computers are logical, but lack common sense. As such they make an excellent substitution for a particularly dimwitted student; by breaking down a process into simple logical steps that a computer can understand, you are bound to understand the process better yourself. Very much Truth in Television. | |
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Some of Hermione's I-think-I-just-had-an-epiphany-I'm-off-to-the-library moments in Harry Potter were like this. Lampshaded by Ron at least once (he hates it when she figures something out and then leaves without telling them what it was). | |
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The second episode of Scrubs did this, where first J.D. and then Elliot did this with Dr Cox. This cemented Dr. Cox as the guy people (especially J.D.) came to with problems, much to his annoyance (especially when it involved J.D.). | |
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Early In The Order of the Stick, the ghost of Roy's father made a habit of appearing to him when he tried to get to sleep. After briefly forsaking the rest of the party, he didn't appear, but Roy still tried to talk to him anyway, leading to this trope. | |
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Mused about in Jingo by Lord Vetinari, who thinks that when people go ask other people for advice it isn't because they want their help. They just want someone to be there while they talk to themselves. He does it himself with Leonard de Quirm, a man detached from the city's interests and thus someone he can talk at. | |
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The therapist in Phantasmagoria: A Puzzle of Flesh has surprisingly little to say about Curtis's various revelations: everything from being dressed as a girl by his horrifically abusive mother, to his attraction to both his female co-worker and male best friend, to his interest in bondage. You'd think there would've at least been a comment of note. Oh well, Curtis seems pleased with the sessions. | |
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In Moon Knight (2022), Steven is very grateful when his street-performing friend advises him on how to prove to himself that he isn't crazy... despite the fact that the street-performer has never actually spoken to him and he worked all of it out on his own. | |
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In Ask Lovecraft, once the resurrected H. P. Lovecraft goes over all the issues over starting a cult of Azathoth for a fan, he begins to realize that the potential income and tax benefits far outweigh those issues. | |
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Parodied in Shortpacked!; Robin insists on this trope for some reason. | |
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In an early episode (possibly the pilot) of Archer, the protagonist heads down to Kreiger's lab to ask him for advice on something. Kreiger doesn't actually say anything throughout this exchange (though he has been shown to talk normally in other episodes), but Archer somehow understands everything he's "saying", thanking him with, "Seriously. You're my Oprah." | |
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Kung Fu Panda Holiday Special has this one where Po thinks of a way to make sure he and his dad spend time together during the Winter Festival, so he mumbles in front of the guard, who remained stoic. He figures out a solution regardless and thanks the guard, who still remained stoic. | |
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In a cut scene from Galaxy Quest, the engineers approach Fred (Tech Sergeant Chen) with a problem. In the process of explaining it to him, they stumble upon the solution, then give him the credit. | |
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Monk, as well, at least once each with Dr. Kroger and Dr. Bell, as well as a time or two where he used a non-therapist as a wall off of which to bounce ideas. | |
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Lincoln does this in The Loud House episode "Get the Message" with his friend Clyde, who had passed out just a few moments before. | |
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In the Star Trek: Lower Decks episode “The Stars at Night”, the crew of the Cerritos is Drowning Their Sorrows at the ship’s bar after losing the race they had with the USS Aledo. Tendi is busy beating herself up because she feels she cost them the race in order to uphold the Prime Directive over what turned out to be a false positive. When she laments that the Aledo, an automated starship, didn’t do the same scans she did, Captain Freeman overhears it and realizes the ships are flawed and runs off to point that out. | |
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In Wapsi Square, Monica thanked Darren for his advice without realizing he never said anything. | |
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The third act of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory has Willy Wonka lying on a Freudian Couch with an Oompa-Loompa in the psychiatrist role. As Wonka details the problems he's currently facing with his candy-making, he suddenly realizes where he's gone wrong. He sits up and thanks the Oompa-Loompa, who hasn't said a word the whole time. | |
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The therapist Maddie talks to (or rather at) in the Jonathan Creek episode "The Scented Room". | |
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In The Lion King 1 ½;, Rafiki comes to advise Timon some time after his friends have left him to go fight evil. Since Timon has been lonely for days at this point, he doesn't even bother hearing what Rafiki has to say and instead mimics what he thinks the baboon is about to say. Which, based on what Rafiki says after Timon charges off towards the Final Battle, is actually pretty accurate. | |
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In The Amazing World of Gumball, Nicole (the mom) is struggling to come to terms with her feelings towards her estranged parents while Richard (the dad) is trying to eat canned food. Richard is just talking to himself, wondering why the can has difficulty opening up, Nicole believes he's talking about her and follows Richard's accidental advice. He's puzzled but happy when she thanks him. | |
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In The Little Rascals episode "The Zero Hero", Alfalfa does this while examining Buckwheat's latest invention after Darla and the other boys have left: | |
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Occurs in Play It Again, Charlie Brown between Lucy and Charlie Brown. | |
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In one Arthur, King of Time and Space strip, Merlin discusses something with Arthur over breakfast. Merlin then admits he just needed to say it out loud, and Not a Morning Person Arthur replies that obviously Merlin knows him better than to actually ask his opinion at that time of day. | |
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In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Slartibartfast has just told Arthur that Earth is a constructed planet commissioned by mice, who have been experimenting on humans. Arthur corrects him, saying it's humans that experimented on the mice. He goes into a long spiel about it, ending with "From our observations of their behavior we were able to learn all sorts of things about our own...". The narration simply says that his voice trails off, implying the sudden realization. Slartibartfast simply complements the mice's subtlety. | |
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Black Books, Bernard and Manny visit the same psychiatrist, and both of them experience (temporary) epiphanies. The shrink never says a thing, and gets showered with money for her trouble. | |
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Doctor Who: With the Doctor around, this is almost a given. He'll be talking to his companion and then he'll explain what he had figured out. His companions will still wonder what he said! Some Doctors do this as a charming and fairly respectful habit (like the Tenth and Eleventh) but it's a lot more grating in other cases, particularly the First, who will do this, start acting on a plan several places behind the end of his logic train, and then call the companion a stupid child for not keeping up. In "The Romans", his response when Ian asks if Barbara and Vicki are okay is "Pipes!" - when Ian attempts to press him on it, the Doctor explains the convoluted logic train that caused him to deduce that not only are Barbara and Vicki okay but that the Romans are experimenting with using pipes to transport water and then yells at him for not paying attention. |
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In TinkerBell and the Lost Treasure, Terence vents his frustations with Tink to an owl, and actually answers the owl's hoots ("Who?"), working through his problem this way. After he leaves, Fairy Gary shows up, looking for advice about the guys making fun of his kilt. | |
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In Once Upon a Mattress, the Queen asks the wizard to help her think of a test to give Princess Winifred, but ends up just complaining without letting him get a word in edgewise. She ends up coming up with the idea all on her own, but still calls the wizard "a genius" for it. | |
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Psmith's relationship with Mike as his "confidential secretary and adviser" seems to embody this. Psmith is constantly praising Mike for his "invaluable" intelligence, despite the fact that he rarely lets him even get a word in edgewise; the truth is he likes having an audience. | |
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In one episode of Codename: Kids Next Door an expy of Boliver Trask gets ignored and sent off off with an eleventy billion-dollar budget for his 'child safety projects' by congress so the congressman don't have to listen to himnote they'd much rather spend all day fighting over who gets to be the one to pass bills to hurt children than help them. While he's voicing his frustration at the way they treat him it takes him a second to realize they gave him a stupidly large amount of funding for his work. | |
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In the South Park episode "Are You There, God? It's Me, Jesus," Kyle asks his baby brother Ike for advice and just gets gibberish in response, but he comes to a conclusion on his own. | |
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One of the many reasons Sherlock Holmes keeps Watson around; explaining his cases to someone with less understanding often gives him just the brainstorm he needs. | |
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Frasier, when Frasier asks for his brother's advice, he basically uses him as a Straw Therapist while he diagnoses himself. | |
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At least once on The Little Mermaid: The Series, King Triton would ask Dudley for advice, but since Dudley is a turtle and talks very slowly, he can't get a single word in as Triton keeps interrupting him and Triton ends up coming to the conclusion himself. | |
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Used in the Gravity Falls episode "The Hand That Rocks the Mabel", with Mabel asking Wendy for advice on breaking up with someone, but as Wendy keeps listing all the guys she's dumped, Mabel realizes what she has to do and thanks Wendy for their talk. | |
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