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Pre-Battle Banter
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"The offensive is due to begin at 1500 hours, soldiers. It's only 1030 hours now, so clean and load your weapons, draw rations from stores, polish your boots, write your goodbye letters, go visit the toilet and above all, don't forget to talk amongst yourselves about how bad you think this battle may be, whether or not it's the Final Battle and just how stupid you think the generals are who want you to fight against such overwhelming odds." This trope is all about the pre-battle scene. Almost inevitably, some of the fighters will know each other from their days "on the farm" and they'll discuss "old times". Occasionally the more nervous fighters will talk about their chances of getting through the battle alive, but most of the fighters will studiously avoid that subject, as though simply talking about it will somehow call down the wrath of the gods upon them and cause them to die when they wouldn't have otherwise. Instead, the fighters will discuss "what I'm going to do after the war", as though there was no chance of them dying. This trope is probably older than you think. If the battle is obviously a Lost Cause, there may be a lot of grumbling about being ordered to become Cannon Fodder for no good reason, but sometimes the upcoming battle is the only choice and the fighters know it, so even though they're certain that they're going to their deaths, they feel like they may as well go down fighting. If it's a plot point, it will be discussed before the battle. Compare to Pre-Asskicking One-Liner which is about a single sentence or statement before commencing a fight. Pre-Battle Banter is about a whole conversation or even several conversations before a battle while the battle may still be some hours off, but with Pre-Asskicking One-Liner, combat usually immediately follows the one-liner. This trope does not apply to the official briefing before the battle, or any Mission Briefing, although it may apply to banter exchanged between fighters during the briefing. This trope also does not apply if the fighters don't know that a battle is imminent, or if the battle has already begun. Pre-Battle Banter is a specific type of Action Film, Quiet Drama Scene and therefore a subtrope. Both tropes serve to increase tension and anticipation in the audience and both tropes encourage the audience to relate to the people involved in the drama, but this trope is specifically about the pre-battle scene. Compare with Lock-and-Load Montage which mainly serves to show how crazy-prepared the protagonists are. |
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Fire Emblem There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of Fire Emblem: Awakening, both hero and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences. |
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In Henry V by William Shakespeare, Harry overhears some of his men doing this. | |
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In The Order of the Stick, before the siege of Azure City Haley attempts this. O-chul is not impressed. | |
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JLA/Avengers has an extended scene in the third book (of four) where the heroes have identified the main villain, his master plan, and how they can undermine, all of which will take place…after their engines charge, in about four hours. This gives the comic ample time to indulge in minor Character Development while comparing and contrasting the heroes of both worlds and letting them ponder not only the impending battle, but the upcoming return to normalcy where at least two of them will return to being dead. | |
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In Mass Effect 3, there's a scene just before the final push where Shepard can share banter with just about anyone who's still alive. Much of it overlaps with It Has Been an Honor. | |
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Aliens during the Drop Ship landing sequence. Hudson starts things off. Ripley asks some pointed questions. Frost and Crowe discuss their feelings. In a deleted scene, Hudson gives a Badass Boast about him and the other Marines which is pure Tempting Fate. Watch it here. |
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In Star Wars - A New Hope, Luke Skywalker tries to persuade Han Solo to help in the upcoming battle and also exchanges words with friends from Tatooine before going into battle. | |
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Lampooned in Hot Shots! Part Deux: before they parachute into enemy territory, Rabinowitz tells Topper what he's going to do when the mission is over | |
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"Drink With Me" in Les Misérables is the revolutionaries getting one last bittersweet hurrah before they are slaughtered by the French army the next morning. The majority of it is lighthearted banter and reminiscing until Grantaire reminds them that, not only will they likely die, there deaths will be pointless. | |
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Independence Day. During the briefing before the first attack on one of the invaders' ships, Marine pilots Wilder and Hiller joke around. Later on, when they're at the flight line Captain Wilder continues. |
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Shows up in The Iliad several times. | |
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The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. The scenes before the Battle of Helm's Deep, in which the men from about age 14 to 60 are equipped with musty old armour and weapons, provoking comments from the heroes, nervous chattering among the fighters, and a general air of grim anticipation. | |
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A standout example is found in Saving Private Ryan with the conversations of the soldiers waiting for the German attack on their bridge. | |
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Blaze of Glory has several pages of this for its final issue. Special mention goes to Two-Gun Kid Title Dropping the series by saying "Me, I'm just looking to go out in a blaze of glory." | |
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The conversation between Lafayette and Hamilton just before the eponymous battle in "Yorktown" is remarkably calm, considering the fact that this is Hamilton's first time leading troops. | |
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Much of the final episode, "Goodbyeee", of the fourth season of Blackadder. | |
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Both Safehold and Honor Harrington by David Weber couldn't be complete without main (or just POV) characters exchanging some banter before the battle. There's enough of those in the former to support a drinking game. | |
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There's quite a few ribbings to be had in the early pre-battle segments of Fire Emblem: Awakening, both hero and villain alike. Anything to do with villains Victor and Vincent, for example, has a fair deal of banter before the battle actually commences. | |
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