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Pronoun Trouble

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Pronoun Trouble	comment	Gender-neutral pronouns and substitution of pronouns for names allows speakers in fiction to play a kind of pronoun game. The purpose of the game is usually to obscure someone's gender or identity to the audience (or other characters) in a natural manner. It can be used as a way to talk about the Wholesome Crossdresser before revealing their gender without anyone technically lying about it. Occasionally, it's also a way to refer to a machine or other creature as if they were a person. A similar effect is seen whenever a piece of fiction includes a character who has Ambiguous Gender Identity, is Transgendernote which includes nonbinary folks, comes from a race with Bizarre Alien Sexes, and sometimes for a Hive Mind. Referring to them as "it" is unacceptably rude (unless it explicitly prefers it). More original gender-neutral pronouns, like "s/he" or "ze", can be adopted, and singular "they" has been in use since at least the 1300s. This trope can be difficult to translate convincingly into other languages, as rules for grammatical gendernote An alternate term is "noun class" for reasons that would be obvious soon are all over the place in languages of the world. For example, in Spanish, while pronouns don't indicate gender, nouns themselves do, as well as verbs and adjectives: 'cat', for example, is either gata or gato, meaning it is impossible to discuss a singular feline in Spanish without mentioning its gender and without some very awkward-sounding workarounds. A rather extreme example of a language where it's not just difficult, but outright impossible, is Hebrew, which has gendered verbs and nouns and arbitrarily makes inanimate objects 'he' and 'she'. Even the word for 'person' is literally translated as "son of Adam". Other languages, such as Finnish, Persian, Hungarian, and Filipino, don't distinguish between male and female pronouns at all. In Standard Chinese, for example, the word for 'he', 'she', and even 'it' are identical when spoken, but not when written, thus this trope is much easier to translate into orally in Chinese.note Even more so in certain varieties of Chinese, like Cantonese, which only has one singular pronoun for everything (ä½¢). (Chinese also does this thing where different nouns have different counters, similar to how in English you have "a drop of water" but "a grain of sand", however for reasons beyond the scope of this article they're not considered grammatical gender.) This does create issues the other way round though when it becomes a plot point that has to be revealed; like in Spanish, translators will be forced to use less natural "that wo/man" equivalents. Yet other languages will split their nouns according to animacy, such as Ojibwe or Swahili, so that people — male or female — fall in the same class, while animals might go in a different one, inanimate objects go into a third, and so on and so forth. These can even be split further still: Andi has a special one just for insects, and Dyribal has one for vegetables (We are not opening the other can of worms on what is a vegetable and what isn't).note See? Told you it'd become obvious the reason why some prefer the term "noun class" instead. And if you're wondering why it's even called "grammatical gender" in the first place, this is because when the folks that first started studying how languages worked were European, thus they focused primarily on European languages, and a good percentage of European languages split nouns into masculine and feminine due to sharing a common ancestor. So, how would Ojibwe and Swahili handle a World of Funny Animals, or sentient robots? What about Dyirbal if ever we encounter a species of Plant Aliens? Frankly, we don't know. And finally, a bonus fact: Old English, which used to have grammatical gender, allowed you to refer to inanimate objects with "he" or "she", resulting in sentences such as "The snow is falling. He is beautiful." or "The fire is burning. She is hot." Just goes to show how varied and arbitrary the entire system can be. Compare The All-Concealing "I", which can serve a similar narrative function in English-language works. See Gender Vocabulary Slip for when crossdressers have Pronoun Trouble. See You Know the One when pronouns are used to conceal a third person's whole identity. There can be pronoun problems other than gender, especially given a sufficiently weird science-fiction/fantasy/etc. situation. See also Which Me?, for when people have trouble using the right pronouns to distinguish themselves from duplicates, past lives, and the like.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_11859033	comment	Narbonic doesn't seem to have any gender problems at all, happily referring to a gender-swapped Helen as "he". The fans do it, too (and also refer to "He-helen" and "Davette").
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Pronoun Trouble / int_14048d93	comment	Yellow Brick Ramble: Tip is assigned male at birth with very clear signs of gender dysphoria, but doesn't realize that means he's Transgender yet. One of the ways this manifests is in insisting Jack call him "mom", which results in Logan realizing Tip is "a girl" and falling in love with him. As a result, Logan's internal thoughts use she/her when referring to Tip, but the rest of the story uses he/him. Lampshaded by The Rant near the start of Chapter 3:
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Pronoun Trouble / int_18ef7211	comment	In Hebrew, second-person pronouns, most verbs, and all adjectives also decline by gender. In Frozen Days, the female protagonist is very unsettled when she goes 'back' to work as a guard in 'Azrieli as 'Alex', the man whose identity she has assumed, and the rest of the guards act as if she's always been Alex, even addressing her as a female.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_1ad1e0d2	comment	In Imperial Radch, the language of the titular empire, Radchaai, only has one pronoun for people (by Translation Convention, rendered as "she") and no concept of gender. This is protagonist Breq's native language, and as such she consistently has trouble figuring out what pronouns to use for people when speaking other languages. Later in the series, when other people find out Breq is an AI, there's some question over whether Breq is a "she" or an "it". The crew of Mercy of Kalr are immensely offended by people calling Breq "it" and want her to know they never would, but also have no problem using that pronoun for other A.I.s (who themselves don't mind). Breq herself would actually be fine with "it", except most humans who call her that are invariably doing so as an insult and a pointed statement about her (lack of) personhood—so she has to insist on "she" to make an equally pointed statement about her personhood, despite not really being that attached to the pronoun.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_1b386512	comment	Ranma Â½: Ranma is initially introduced in female form, and his rough, exaggerated male speech was meant to be surprising to Japanese readers. In English, this effect is almost entirely Lost in Translation. Kurenai Tsubasa's arc ended with the reveal that he was a crossdressing boy, which he and Ukyo both knew and were not attempting to hide. The Viz dub has Tsubasa claim to be a girl, but jumps through verbal hoops to have neither Ukyo nor anyone else talking to her reference Tsubasa's gender. The English manga keeps Ukyo from saying Tsubasa's gender, but Akane does when talking to her, yet Ukyo is still surprised Akane didn't know Tsubasa was male. The English subtitles make even less of an effort, having Ukyo repeatedly her Tsubasa "she".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_1b71921c	comment	Ash in Misfile is a guy turned into a girl who has to maintain the masquerade that he was always a girl or end up stuck that way permanently. Those who are in on the secret sometimes swap male and female pronouns in the same sentence. It doesn't come up much anymore, as Ash doesn't want anyone overhearing conversations to get ideas, and so accepts the use of 'her' and 'she' even in private. On the forums, you can usually figure out which way someone ships the Official Couple by their pronoun use. Those that use "he" typically want to see Ash turned back to normal; those that use "she" want to see Ash stay Misfiled permanently. There are also those who go to great lengths to avoid using pronouns for Ash at all.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_22211d68	comment	In Bones Booth spends the first couple scenes where the Body of the Week is of a transgender woman who underwent sex reassignment surgery seeking to figure out which set of pronouns to use.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_2342a881	comment	Baby Nameless, the infant child of Natalie and Carlos in Mission Hill, does not have a name yet since Natalie does not want her child "to fall into a preconceived gender stereotype". The child's gender is never revealed in the series.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_24d953d0	comment	Metroid had Samus's gender (hint... not male) as a Tomato Surprise at the end. The English-language manual seems to use "Samus" as a pronoun — although it does cheat and use "he" in places. The Japanese manual, due to the inherent linguistic quirks, should have less trouble keeping Samus's gender a secret... and it still uses the "he" cheat to misdirect the player. Later on in the series, it gets similarly cagey around Sylux, introduced in Metroid Prime: Hunters as The Rival to Samus. Every other Hunter is a "he;" Sylux is... a Sylux, or "it" if pronouns must be stooped to. Thus, there is some speculation that Sylux is female as well. Though Sylux may be a truly genderless being, possibly a computer or an Energy Being.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_26674ed5	comment	In Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Olga persistently refers to her child as, well, "my child", even in extremely convoluted circumstances. One would assume she at least got a glimpse of its gender after she gave birth to it, so there's no reason for this except to lampshade the mystery about the child's identity.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_291e9857	comment	Dark Souls gets hit by this occasionally, thanks of course to the fact that the series was developed in Japan and thus Japanese genderless pronouns were used to refer to a great many characters. When translated to English, the default pronoun is pretty much always "he", so a lot of female characters are referred to as "he" (such as Guthry and the Throne Watcher in Dark Souls 2), especially in the item descriptions which are tied to female characters. This isn't helped by the fact that the series is fond of Gender Blender Names, making things even more confusing for translators.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_2a4c791e	comment	Keiichi fell foul of this in Ah! My Goddess when put under a temporary Gender Bender by Skuld's pudding. When his sister and his fellow members of the Auto club came looking for him, he tried to pretend that he was someone else, in a bid to hide the presence of goddesses in his home. Just as he was about to leave, however, he accidentally used the masculine 'ore' when referring to himself, rousing some suspicion in his guests.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_2e97446c	comment	Ib: Garry refers to himself as "atashi" and uses other traditionally feminine speech patterns, which codes him as a possible member of the LGBT community, and it's noticeable enough that Ib can ask him at one point why he talks like a lady. However, it's extremely difficult to translate this to English without making Garry come across as a gay caricature, so vgperson ended up greatly toning it down to the point where many English players were unaware that he was supposed to have an unusual way of speaking.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_2f9517bf	comment	Katsura Hoshino, author of D.Gray-Man, uses pronouns that make pinning down the author's gender impossible. Eventually, she made her first major public appearance.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_30ca7642	comment	On One Day at a Time (2017), Elena has a variety of queer friends, many of whom are non-binary and use various pronouns such as they/them and ze/zir. To make things clearer, they introduce themselves with their name and pronouns, which initially confuses the adults, but they all just go with it and are genuinely respectful, even if they don't quite get it. (For example, Lydia at first thinks they're saying "pronounced" and introduces herself, "Lydia, pronounced Ly-dee-uh" in response. She also later addresses Elena's friend with, "Excuse me, she?") Played with later on, after Elena begins dating Syd, who's nonbinary and goes by they/them. No one in the cast has any trouble remembering their pronouns after the initial introduction, but they and Elena decide that calling them her "girlfriend" isn't really right, so they switch to "significant other" instead.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_366a284d	comment	In the official subs of the Fist of the North Star anime, the Tentei or Heavenly Empress Lui is continually referred to as a "he" or as an "Emperor" by characters who knows her true identity before her gender is revealed.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_39d197fd	comment	When the Angels Left the Old Country: Rose doesn't know Uriel is an angel for the first half or so of the book, and thinks Ash referring to Uriel as "it" is a quirk of their particular Yiddish dialect rather than Uriel's actual pronouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_3d22c14b	comment	In the Japanese original version of Mobile Suit Gundam 00, the very feminine-looking Gundam pilot Tieria Erde changes pronouns depending on his mental state. The traditionally masculine "ore" at the beginning, the more casual but still mostly male "boku" when he starts more emotions, the formal and gender-neutral "watashi" when at his most fragile... Good luck making that translate into English. The English dub didn't do so directly, though they still did an admirable job of conveying Tieria's gender-identity issues. There's even an instance where Tieria, undergoing a minor nervous breakdown, uses all three pronouns in a single sentence: "Ore wa... boku wa... watashi wa..."
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Pronoun Trouble / int_3defe34c	comment	Discussed by Rinjapine in the description of her OC Njozi, the intersex child of Kiara and Kovu.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_3e8c09b9	comment	The writer of Attack on Titan has officially stated that Hange Zoe should be referred to with either gender-neutral pronouns or with both "he" and "she" in equal measure. This hasn't stopped several fan translations from assigning them one or the other binary gender. To add to the confusion, the anime and the live-action film portrays Zoe with much more noticeable breasts than the manga does.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_40010ddc	comment	HeartCatch Pretty Cure! didn't formally reveal Myoudouin Itsuki's female gender to Tsubomi — and the audience — until Episode Seven. This was a lot easier to get around in the original Japanese than in the subs, where not only Tsubomi but Erika and the student council, the latter of which know better, refer to Itsuki with exclusively male terms until the aforementioned reveal.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_41b0198a	comment	The Dresden Files: Harry Dresden finds himself facing this problem when trying to talk about the skinwalker Shagnasty in Turn Coat. It turns out there are few ways to adequately gender a sexless demigod of suffering. He accidentally describes this trope as "gender issues" in front of Bob the Skull. There is also Capiocorpus, the Corpsetaker. Corpsetaker was probably human at one point but has existed solely as a body-stealing mind for so long it's unclear what its original gender was, or if it's applicable at this point.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_43de9426	comment	Colette: Willy is unsure how to address Missy, who's quite androgynous with an ambiguous gender identity, especially since in French words are strictly gendered. Colette, Missy's lover, uses he/him pronouns for Missy, correcting Willy using she/her. Missy however does not say what they prefer, at least onscreen.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_43e086ac	comment	Similarly, Phantasy Star I infamously addresses resident Bishōnen Noah as both male and female. The Game Boy Advance port corrected this, but the later Nintendo Switch AGES release goes back to the error.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_4522fd1	comment	Whateley Universe: Heyoka (the student) is a person of Lakota Indian origin whose first name is Jamie. Due to the unpredictable Involuntary Shapeshifting aspect of Heyoka's superpower, he/she shifts from masculine to feminine to in-between, as well as from human to part-animal. Even the other Transgender students at the school have trouble with pronouns in Jamie's case. Phase (Ayla Goodkind, formerly Trevor), became intersexed due to his power; while he retains a male gender identity and male genitalia, in most other respects he appears to be a strikingly beautiful young woman. Even the writers had an issue with this in some stories, at least until the character's primary author, Diane Castle, put her foot down about it. In-universe, which pronouns a character uses is something of a Shibboleth regarding how they see him - his closest friends mostly use male pronouns, those who don't know him as well generally use female ones, while homophobes and those with an axe to grind with him sometimes use 'it'. This can be contrasted with Jade and the manifested J-Team, for whom the question of Which Me? is a Running Gag. However, while Jade is also transgender, unlike Ayla or Heyoka (who weren't able to keep their peculiarity a secret), she has no problem with pronoun gender - she is always female despite her body, and almost everyone sees her as such.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_455e3038	comment	In one episode of King of the Hill, Hank's sex is printed as Female on his driver's license. His Rage Breaking Point is when a Department of Homeland Security employee, after refusing to fix the issue, calls him "ma'am." Hank almost gets arrested for threatening him, when Dale, who had recently become patriotic, rattles off the employee's entire chain of command and demands, as a taxpayer (as of a few hours ago), that he correct Hank's license.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_45fddd2b	comment	The View Askewniverse: A version of the pronoun game is played by Alyssa, a lesbian-identified bisexual woman and the protagonist's (Holden's) love interest in Chasing Amy. Her friends press her on why she's less able to spend time with them, and she admits she's found someone — but she refers to Holden (and his friends) as "they" until she's called on playing the pronoun game by one of them, who asks for a name. In Clerks II, Randall organizes a donkey show for Dante's bachelor party. He goes with a duo known as "Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud". When the handler greets Randall, he noticably never refers to Kelly with any pronouns. This is because Kelly is actually the (male) donkey, while the sexy stud is Kelly's handler.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_468bebb0	comment	The Discworld novel Monstrous Regiment features multiple Sweet Polly Oliver characters, some of whom have revealed this but continued living as men by the end of the novel. The narrator's use of pronouns gets a bit inconsistent after that, as well as characters forming sentences like "She's a very practical man". And the fandom is even more inconsistent with the pronouns, especially when the desire to avoid spoilers comes into it.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_4d2a48c1	comment	Mako Mermaids: An H₂O Adventure: Accidentally turning Poseidon (a tomcat) into a clone of Evie (a human girl) leads to the characters involved constantly mixing up the he/she pronouns, as they see a girl that they know is actually a male cat under a spell. Some of them even keep referring to Poseidon as Evie, confusing themselves even further.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_503d5009	comment	Ayakashi Triangle centers on Matsuri, a boy who was turned female and hides this from any humans unaware of the supernatural. Gendered language for Matsuri is handled differently in different languages: In the Japanese version, characters keep to gender-neutral language (which is the default) with Matsuri unless they're specifically emphasizing Matsuri's male self identity or female body (or simply believe Matsuri was always a girl). Matsuri retains his very masculine speech, but no one believes anything like a spontaneous magic sex change is possible, so they just accept that "she" is a tomboy. The English version of the manga originally defaulted to "he/him" (because Matsuri still identifies as male), reserving "she/her" only for speakers who believe or are pretending Matsuri was always a girl. This gets more complicated when Suzu talks with two ayakashi unaware of Matsuri's original sex; their conversation is carefully constructed so neither refers to him by a pronoun. Once the series changed magazines, the English localization switch to new translators that largely avoided referring to female Matsuri by any pronoun at all for a few volumes before also using "he/him".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_517380f	comment	In Terra Ignota, by the 25th century, "he" and "she" have been set aside in favor of the gender-neutral "they". So "they" is used in the in-universe dialogue, but Mycroft uses "he" and "she" — along with "thee" and "thou" when addressing the reader — in the narration to mimic the style of 18th-century writing he's trying to use. He doesn't really use them the traditional way, though, often assigning pronouns based on his perception of someone rather than their biological sex or outright stating that it's a carefully kept secret and he's just using what's convenient, as in the case of Sniper.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_55c5a085	comment	Mazinger Z: A meta -and funny- example with The Dragon Baron Ashura, a half male, half female Cyborg made with the remains of two deceased lovers. Fans are divided about what pronoun to use to refer to him/her/it.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_5755b96a	comment	Most characters refer to Vaarsuvius of The Order of the Stick as V because they don't know whether V is male or female. Every now and then, someone will refer to V with gender-specific language; but it's often contradictory, and Word of God says any character who refers to V as male or female is reflecting their own perceptions, not necessarily reality. An interesting example here... with Durkon's accent, the pronoun comes out to an ambiguous "'E". In this strip, even V's kids (stated to be adopted) refer to V and V's mate as "Parent" and "Other Parent." Their conversation is presented via Translation Convention; supposedly, we're to understand that the elvish language itself is gender-ambiguous in this setting. Or, we're to accept it on the grounds that it's funny. In the preface for the third chapter of the second collection "No Cure for the Paladin Blues", the author does slip up and refer to V exclusively with male pronouns. But he'd probably deny that that proves anything. And all of that is dashed to bits with this, where V admits that he/she ignores pronouns. This presents a problem with translations into languages where it's much harder to stay gender-neutral in first-person speech. A Russian fan translation of OOTS resorted to V alternating masculine and feminine language forms when speaking about him/herself. Word of God is that V is written as genderqueer, but due to cultural differences the idea of actually identifying as such would be nonsensical to them.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_57ad879c	comment	A version of the pronoun game is played by Alyssa, a lesbian-identified bisexual woman and the protagonist's (Holden's) love interest in Chasing Amy. Her friends press her on why she's less able to spend time with them, and she admits she's found someone — but she refers to Holden (and his friends) as "they" until she's called on playing the pronoun game by one of them, who asks for a name.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_59151283	comment	Metal Gear: In Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Olga persistently refers to her child as, well, "my child", even in extremely convoluted circumstances. One would assume she at least got a glimpse of its gender after she gave birth to it, so there's no reason for this except to lampshade the mystery about the child's identity. Pronoun trouble also reared its head in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots with mention of the mysterious "Dr. Clark" from Metal Gear Solid. In the English version of MGS1, they used male pronouns whenever the character was mentioned. Then MGS4 came along and retroactively confirmed that Dr. Clark was a woman, by way of being the female Para-Medic from Metal Gear Solid 3. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain did address this and additionally added that in-universe, "Dr. Clark" had obfuscated their identity to the point that the characters too were unsure of her actual gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_5921531b	comment	In Persona 4, Naoto's social link runs into a translation problem for this reason. In the original Japanese, once you leveled up her social link far enough, you got a scene where she asks if you prefer her using "boku" or "atashi" to refer to herself. In the English version, the scene is changed to being about the pitch of her voice.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_595afe0d	comment	Risk of Rain: The ending text for each survivor starts with "And so he/she/it left[...]", but for the Sniper, it's "And so they left[...]". While this is likely referring to the Sniper and the Spotter robot together, the syntax is still ambiguous.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_59c83d6	comment	In Jehtt's videos, Shadow, who is usually portrayed as a parody of right-wing commentators, plays with this trope. In "I have no pronouns", he tells Sonic that he doesn't have pronouns and he should be called by his name. When Sonic says "he" after Shadow escapes, the Pronoun Police surround him. In "What is your gender", Omega gives his hardware specs when asked for his gender. When asked for his specs, he answers "they/them". When Rouge tells Shadow he needs to use his preferred pronouns, he tells Rouge that his hardware specs is his gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_5bb40efc	comment	In Tombstone Rashomon, Kate is Hungarian originally and has English as her second language. Throughout her testimony, she keeps using female pronouns to describe male characters.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_5c897f4a	comment	LOTA (the Longshoreman Of The Apocalypse), a robot from Schlock Mercenary, avoids the issue entirely. "LOTA is too large for your puny pronouns!" Note that this includes second-person pronouns as well as the standard pronouns. First person collective pronouns like "we" and "us" LOTA makes an exception for. Additionally, LOTA seems to identify as male, considering that LOTA takes on the role of King of Credomar.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_5ce3fc86	comment	Crona from Soul Eater is of consistently-Ambiguous Gender, which is harder to pull off in non-Japanese languages. The dub of the anime just uses he/him pronouns, but they left in the line about Patty not knowing if Crona is a boy or a girl and various commentaries by the voice actors and director actually have them referring to Crona with one pronoun or another, and the English translation of the manga uses female pronouns. Although in the dub Medusa, being Crona's mother and pretty much the only other one who would be sure of Crona's sex, calls Crona "it".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_605761e0	comment	The case of Sire attempts to avoid this by referring to Riley by name whenever a pronoun is required to describe Riley. It comes off a little awkward. Some characters gave up and just selected one of the two binary options to avoid having to deal with the language issue.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_610a694a	comment	PokÃ©mon Adventures: It's possible that it was because Yellow wanted to keep the ruse up, but why would her uncle refer to her as "he"? Crystal has also been referred to as male... after it's clear that she's the one they're all talking about and pretty much female.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_611c72dc	comment	Many in the Star Trek Novel 'Verse. In addition to the pronouns Peter David uses in Star Trek: New Frontier for the Hermat race (listed in the body of the entry), there's a whole Hermat Language Council, to explain why he did away with the pronoun hish and the practice of calling a commanding Hermat officer "shir". The Hermat pronouns are later applied to other intersex or androgynous races like the Talosians. Also, a Damiani is either he, she or it, depending on sex. The four-sexed Andorians have a multitude of gender-specific words but usually accept male or female pronouns so as to avoid confusion among offworlders. A Syrath is an it, being asexual (but Damiani its are not asexual). Bynars use "this unit" in place of I or we, neither of which works well for them.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_61b1bd67	comment	Mokona is Mokona. This comes up again in Gate 7, which features a character named Hana whose gender is intentionally ambiguous. Thankfully, the English translation handles this ambiguity remarkably well.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_63053ca	comment	Natani in TwoKinds is a troublesome case because she was originally female forced conceal her gender due to misogynistic attitudes of her peers, but after having her soul damaged by a magical attack parts of it were repaired with her brother's soul, leaving him/her perceiving himself as a male in female body. What's even more troublesome, it appears that the female part of him isn't as dead as previously thought.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_630755ab	comment	In the Codex Alera series, Marat children are referred to by their parents as their "whelp" instead of boy or girl, until they pass a certain rite of adulthood. In the first book the POV character, Tavi, meets (and is injured by) a Marat child, and the narrator refers to this child with male pronouns since that's what Tavi assumes them to be. Proves to be a major plot point that he's female.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_631805af	comment	Pronoun trouble also reared its head in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots with mention of the mysterious "Dr. Clark" from Metal Gear Solid. In the English version of MGS1, they used male pronouns whenever the character was mentioned. Then MGS4 came along and retroactively confirmed that Dr. Clark was a woman, by way of being the female Para-Medic from Metal Gear Solid 3. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain did address this and additionally added that in-universe, "Dr. Clark" had obfuscated their identity to the point that the characters too were unsure of her actual gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_63409895	comment	Sofia the First: A dub-induced version in the episode "Buttercup Amber". In the original English version, a mysterious character is referred to as a 'he' by most of the cast, but is found out to be female in the episode, and Sofia makes a comment about the character being a 'she' rather than a 'he'. In the Taiwanese Mandarin dub, Sofia's comment is translated as approximately "That's not a boy, that's a girl." However, considering most (if not all) varieties of Chinese doesn't have gendered pronouns in speech, the comment seems a bit out of the blue as this is the only instance where the character's gender is brought up in any context at all.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_64e03e4b	comment	This is a concern when writing software, both translated from English and written directly in a gendered language. Sometimes a software doesn't need to know the user's gender at all, except to say "Welcome". In the best case, you get "Bienvenido/a" or "Bienvenid@" (indicating both options: masculine and feminine). In the worst case, you get "Welcome back, Mr (female)!" To respect the identities of users, Facebook will come right out and explicitly ask the user how they would like to be addressed (for example, "he", "she", "xe"). If the user leaves the box blank, Facebook will default to using the singular "they".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_6505f7f3	comment	Molly of Denali: In "Hus-keys," Tooey and Kenji both refer to their lead dog Luka as a boy, but later Tooey calls Luka a she.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_6760b31e	comment	NiGHTS is officially genderless, as they are capable of bonding with both men (Elliot, William) and women (Claris, Helen). Not really a problem with the first game, which was entirely devoid of dialogue. The Wii sequel, NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, however, has several voiced cutscenes, and using pronouns to refer to NiGHTS was largely unavoidable; the game settles on using male pronouns, but then has it so they speak with a female voice to further confuse the issue.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_682b4e8b	comment	In David Lindsay's classic fantasy novel A Voyage to Arcturus, the protagonist Maskull meets Leehallfae, a member of a genderless race (Phaen), who use the neutral pronoun "ae" to refer to themselves.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_69811250	comment	In Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth by Isaac Asimov: Gaia is a Hive Mind where all residents of Gaia are Gaia and do not consider themselves individuals, which necessitated two Foundationers who came to Gaia (and who did not understand the Hive Mind concept) to coin the pronoun I/you/we/he/she/Gaia (oftentimes shortened). There's also the matter of the Solarians, who, being intersex and considering themselves above concepts of 'male' or 'female', give the characters some trouble about what pronouns to use. Generally, they use "it", though for the Solarian child they pick up along the way, they settle on "her".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_6b677e34	comment	Zohar in Silhouette Mirage can change genders at will, and was created with this ability, which is linked to the ability to change attributes between Silhouette and Mirage. Despite the character being equal parts male and female, Zohar is referred to as "He" in the English translation of the game.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_6c5e0560	comment	Fushigi Yuugi: Nuriko. Initially introduced as a very feminine biologically male person who acted Transgender and considered herself female at heart, Nuriko became less and less girly as time goes on and as for volume 8, he has ditched his feminine behavior (explained as no longer chasing after his dead sister, gone for a masculine role (going as far as to cut his long hair) that is in a way manlier than some of the main cast. Some consider this a case of Ass Pull and still refer to Nuriko with "she/her" pronoun, while others are perfectly fine with considering him a gay/possibly bisexual man. But for the sake of convenience, most websites, wikis, and many fans refer to him as his male.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_6d8f94c9	comment	Harry Dresden finds himself facing this problem when trying to talk about the skinwalker Shagnasty in Turn Coat. It turns out there are few ways to adequately gender a sexless demigod of suffering. He accidentally describes this trope as "gender issues" in front of Bob the Skull.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_72262aee	comment	For Brazilian translators, the English word 'friend' is a nightmare. The word, as most denotative nouns in the Portuguese language, has a version for men (amigo) and another for women (amiga — gives a whole new meaning to the term "motherboard", doesn't it?). So, whenever an animated show wants to use the neutral meaning to create a plot-point, confusion ensues. A particular example in Avatar: The Last Airbender comes to mind — Aang asks Waterbending Master Paku if he can bring a friend to practice with them. When it turns out the friend is a girl, Paku denies it. In the Brazilian dub, Aang immediately referred to Katara as his amiga, already giving out that she's a girl... yet the rest of the scene plays the same way. The only possible explanation is that Paku has bad hearing... This is not just about the word 'friend' but about pretty much any word, period. In Portuguese (and other romance languagesnote e.g. Spanish, Italian, French, etc., for that matter), it's much harder to stay gender neutral than English, since you have to specify the gender for most nouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_729ba28f	comment	In Ender in Exile, Graff does a pretty good job of tiptoeing around pronouns when talking about Demosthenes, but naturally, Ender sees through it anyway.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_747d9a6f	comment	In [PROTOTYPE], Blackwatch is very specific when they say that Alex Mercer must be referred to as an "it", not a "he"; and it turns out, they're right. "Alex" is revealed to be a shape-shifting sentient virus that originated as a vial of inanimate goo rather than an infected human, with no real gender - or identity or shape. He does, however, end up wearing a male form most of the time since he can only use his weapon and armor powers in his default shape. And there is a distinct shortage of women to consume, but that's another trope.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7668653a	comment	Legion in Mass Effect 2. It's iffy on whether the entity identified as Legion should be called a "he" (male-sounding voice), "it" (inherently genderless robot), or "they" (gestalt consciousness consisting of 1,183 "programs" in a single "platform"). Shepard refers to Legion as "it" (...usually), though most of the fandom refers to Legion as "he." Legion refers to himself as "we" and most often makes no distinctions between himself and the geth as a whole species. In the third game, Legion refers to himself as "I" right before his Heroic Sacrifice, if you manage to achieve peace between the quarians and the geth. EDI will call attention to this, and believes it is because Legion had developed an individual personality. At the end of his life, he was no longer "merely" an avatar of the geth consensus, but an actual person.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_782e4044	comment	In What Moves The Dead by Ursula Vernon, Gallacian, the fictional native language of the protagonist, has six sets of pronouns: one for men, one for women, one for rocks, one for God, one for children and priests/nuns, and one for soldiers. This causes some translation headaches when the soldiers hire out internationally, but mostly people muddle along (a soldier's a soldier, at the end of the day). The child pronoun causes slightly more trouble—it is extremely taboo to call a child by adult pronouns, tantamount to saying you're a paedophile. (So taboo that a Gallacian spy blew his cover by hesitating just a bit too long before referring to a little girl as "she".) Hence native Gallacian speakers are never quite comfortable in languages that lack this separation, and new learners are prone to greatly embarrassing themselves. In the climax of the story, one character refers to the sentient fungus infesting her body with the pronouns for a child, since that's what she regards it as.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7832b74c	comment	Steven Universe: Defied with Gems in general: besides Steven and his fusions (see below) they are sexless and have no internalized concept of gender, but always use "she/her" pronouns. The show's creator (who is non-binary, but accepts both "she" and "they" as pronouns) specifies this is completely arbitrary, and along with general issues of Aliens Speaking English is never brought up in-series. Garnet, a Gem Fusion, sings a song where the switch between singular and plural becomes almost a Badass Boast. In the episode "Keeping It Together", it becomes clear even Garnet has trouble keeping whether she's one identity or two in order, using a singular pronoun before backing up and referring to her components by name. When Steven and Connie first fuse into Stevonnie, they get "my" and "your" pronouns mixed up. Stevonnie is also more visibly non-binary than regular Gems, and so their first appearance used gender-neutral writing.note Kevin does call Stevonnie "girl", but he's wasn't likely to know or respect their actual gender. From Stevonnie's second appearance onward, 'they/them' pronouns were used consistently. A tie-in video later established that Stevonnie considers themselves intersex.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7899c84f	comment	The novel Adrian Mole and the Weapons of Mass Destruction by Sue Townsend features an offstage character named Leslie who is in a relationship with Mr. Carlton-Hayes, Adrian's boss. Since the Adrian has never met Leslie and Mr. Carlton-Hayes always talks about them using this trope, both Adrian and the reader are clueless as to Leslie's gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7988cb68	comment	Mass Effect Legion in Mass Effect 2. It's iffy on whether the entity identified as Legion should be called a "he" (male-sounding voice), "it" (inherently genderless robot), or "they" (gestalt consciousness consisting of 1,183 "programs" in a single "platform"). Shepard refers to Legion as "it" (...usually), though most of the fandom refers to Legion as "he." Legion refers to himself as "we" and most often makes no distinctions between himself and the geth as a whole species. In the third game, Legion refers to himself as "I" right before his Heroic Sacrifice, if you manage to achieve peace between the quarians and the geth. EDI will call attention to this, and believes it is because Legion had developed an individual personality. At the end of his life, he was no longer "merely" an avatar of the geth consensus, but an actual person. This is averted with Shepard themself, since unlike with KOTOR, the developers had planned from the beginning to have Shepard be either male or female, so there are separate voice files that have pronouns refer to either a male or female Shepard. Because of Bizarre Alien Biology, the non-birthing parent of an asari can be any gender but is still called the "father". In the third game, mentioning that calling a female parent "father" is confusing to a human gets Shepard called an "anthropocentric bag of dicks." Discussed in Mass Effect: Andromeda, when an angaran ambassador asks the head of the Nexus Cultural Center, an asari, how they deal with pronouns as a monogendered species. The asari informs him that it largely depends on the asari.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7c6649d2	comment	In The Host (2008), the human characters have difficulty referring to Wanderer (an alien parasite who has inhabited many bodies- male, female, and otherwise) because of this. Wanderer herself identifies as female and asks them to call her 'she'.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7d122312	comment	In The Flintstones episode "Swedish Visitors", after Ole introduces himself, the not-too-bright Sven repeats, "Ole Ericsson, at your service," possibly because he thinks Ole's name is part of the English greeting. Ingmar, who's the brains of the group, corrects him, "No, no, he is Ole, you are Sven." and Sven dutifully parrots, "Duh, he is Ole, you are Sven," while Ingmar facepalms.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_7fc78282	comment	In The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien mentions in the appendices that the language used in the original version of the book had respectful and informal forms of the pronoun "you", except in the Shire, where the respectful form had fallen out of use. So Pippin referred to Denethor, the steward of Gondor, as an equal, and that fueled the rumors that he was a prince of the halflings. In the Spanish translation of the books, the problem is in number, when a character says "May the Valar protect you." Since the Valar are not mentioned anywhere else, the translator uses "El valar" ("el" is masculine singular for "the"), probably assuming that the Valar is a sort of Crystal Dragon Jesus. It is clear from other works, though, that the proper form would be the plural "Los Valar." In the Hungarian translation, thanks to the lack of gendered pronouns, when Ã‰owyn and Merry are pitted against the Witch-King of Angmar, the text reads in a way that it is Merry, rather than Ã‰owyn, delivering the killing blow (since Ã‰owyn is only referred to as "she" in that sentence, and Merry is the subject of the previous one). The "no man can kill him" prophecy still works this way, as Merry is no man either (he's a halfling). It led to some Fan Dumb moments when Hungarian fans criticized the Peter Jackson film for changing the scene and giving Merry's moment to Ã‰owyn, even though the scene in the film quite closely followed the English text.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_81692f99	comment	Star Trek: The (traditionally male) honorific "sir" is the proper form of address for referring to a superior officer of any gender in Starfleet. Male crewmembers are occasionally heard to subtly give the word extra emphasis when addressing a female officer they feel is being a bit of a hardass. The occasional "ma'am" (the proper form of address for female officers in most modern U.S. military branches) can occasionally be heard as well; it appears to depend at least partially on the preference of the officer. Captain Janeway of Star Trek: Voyager dislikes being called "sir," preferring to be addressed with the more gender-neutral "Captain."note which is actually less formal in real life militaries, akin to first-name basis. She's been known to tolerate the occasional "ma'am" as well. The J'naii in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Outcast" are an androgynous species for whom gender is "primitive". Their pronoun for themselves is supposedly difficult to translate; it comes through to us as "one". After Ezri becomes the next host of Dax on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (an arrangement she never sought), she keeps getting mixed up between first- and third-person pronouns when referring to previous hosts. Subject of a gag in the original series episode "The Trouble With Tribbles":
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8258e260	comment	Super Mario Bros.: Nintendo has trouble whether they should refer to Birdo —whose gender has been portrayed inconsistently— as male or female at times, so they've used "Birdo" as a pronoun at least once. Mentioned in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, in regards to Bowletta.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_86fa6d5b	comment	.hack//SIGN: Tsukasa. His real-life player is revealed to be female, which has many fans confused as to how they should refer to him. Some use she/her pronouns at all times, but some prefer he/him pronouns as although Tsukasa accepts that he's female after he's found that out, he still doesn't have much problem with acting like a boy. Most go with the simple solution of referring to his real-life player as female and the character, Tsukasa himself, as male.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8aa7c509	comment	Star vs. the Forces of Evil: In the episode "Heinous" Miss Heinous, who first met Marco Dragged into Drag, uses female pronouns for him even as everyone she talks to uses male. Neither side of their conversations questions this, or even seems to notice. In "The Battle for Mewni," when a monster is at the edge of the Mewman capital, River first uses she/her pronouns, then several scenes later, River uses the word "it" once, then both River and Marco refer to the monster as "he" once each. The monster speaks with a male voice. Again, this passes without comment. Later in the same episode, Manfred, immediately after referring to Ludo as "sir," responds to an order with "yes'm".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8ba4613a	comment	Death Note's translation always referred to an unknown Kira as "them", which was fitting because often those who discussed it didn't even know whether Kira was a single person or a group, or their gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8c6be4eb	comment	On Scandal, a flashback to when Cyrus was closeted has him talking to Fitz about seeing someone new (James). Fitz actually handles it really well; he uses the terms "person" and "this person", leaves the door open for Cyrus to tell him more if Cyrus decides to, and upon establishing Cyrus is happy and in love, declares, "Then, that's all that matters." Cyrus, on the other hand- "it" and "they" are used when, in both instances, "this person" would work just as well for him as it did for Fitz. Granted, trying to tell the President of the United States he has a gay Chief of Staff who is dating an opinionated male journalist who was critical of said President's campaign likely would be an extremely stressful situation. Whether how Cyrus does eventually come out is a better or worse way to do so from a professional standpoint, it's certainly a big heartwarming moment.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8d814070	comment	On MASH, Radar was frequently unsure how to address Major Houlihan and often ended up calling her "Ma'am, sir" or "Sir, ma'am".*
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Pronoun Trouble / int_8e0265d8	comment	In Clerks II, Randall organizes a donkey show for Dante's bachelor party. He goes with a duo known as "Kinky Kelly and the Sexy Stud". When the handler greets Randall, he noticably never refers to Kelly with any pronouns. This is because Kelly is actually the (male) donkey, while the sexy stud is Kelly's handler.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_90c73dda	comment	Animorphs has a number example: the local Sufficiently Advanced Alien, the Ellimist, switches between using "I" and "we" a lot. The Ellimist is a legend among the Andalites, but the stories are iffy on whether there's more than one Ellimist. The Prequel book of his origins eventually reveals that there's only one, but he wound up absorbing the minds of a bunch of dead aliens at one point, which apparently explains his ambiguity. Yeerks are implied to be genderless, but the series generally uses the pronouns of their host bodies, including when a Yeerk is narrating.note Conveniently, we never see a Yeerk switch host gender for very long—Visser One occasionally infested men, for example, but "her" most narratively important hosts (Eva, Jenny Lines, Allison Kim) were always women. However, some fans prefer using gender-neutral pronouns in fanfic.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9247fa59	comment	In Dorohedoro, the fact that Noi, the badass luchador-mask wearing gangster, is a woman, is hidden for the first few chapters. In the official Polish translation of the manga, all dialogue involving Noi in those chapters is carefully phrased to avoid revealing her sex (not a straightforward feat, since verbs and adjectives in Polish are heavily gendered).
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Pronoun Trouble / int_92b60519	comment	Post-Self: Both RJ Brewster and Ioan BÄƒlan use the neopronoun "ey." Dear, Also, The Tree Was Felled prefers "it" for itself. Justified when RJ's pronouns-at-birth tip off a researcher to eir identity when ey should have remained an anonymous data-point. In Nevi'im, of the four alien species, one chooses to use "it" pronouns, two use "they", and one uses gendered English pronouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_94aa987d	comment	Sunless Sea reduces this somewhat; the gender-neutral terms for your captain are plain and blunt (ex: captain), and the narration tends to avoid bringing gender up in general. There is definitely some pronoun trouble with the Alarming Scholar, however. Neither you nor the narrator can decide her (his?) gender, and constantly stumble when referring to him (her?).
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9a67b688	comment	A common occurrence in Case Closed, where Conan claims that he knows the killer is "that person" when there are both male and female suspects, preventing the audience from getting any information.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9a7088bc	comment	Subject of a gag in the original series episode "The Trouble With Tribbles":
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9bb5aad4	comment	Yu-Gi-Oh! GX: Yubel is a Hermaphrodite duel spirit who has a literal female right side of the body and a male left side, so it's hard to actually refer to them with any pronouns. The 4Kids dub made them completely female◊, but translators for fansubs have a hard time with them. Many of them go with the 4Kids way by referring to them with she/her pronouns but this doesn't sit well with the people who acknowledge that they are half-male. This is still on heated debate even today.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9ce851a3	comment	On Malcolm in the Middle, infant Jamie went several episodes just after being born without having a specified gender. (In the end, it was another boy.) This was also parodied with a skit where the parents are skirting around his gender for about 2 minutes before casually revealing it by calling him "mister".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9d34190a	comment	Because Daedric Princes in The Elder Scrolls can have any gender at any time, this comes up from time to time. Notably, followers of Boethiah will sometimes refer to Boethiah with both male and female pronouns in the same sentence.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9d47a2a2	comment	A Song of Ice and Fire: Sweets, a minor character who's a hermaphrodite, is referred to with alternating pronouns; "he" one paragraph, "she" the next.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_9f0b898a	comment	Closeted trans boy Sei from BREAK THE BORDER prefers the very masculine pronoun "ore", but he only uses it in his head because he's been teased for using it. Sometimes he slips up.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_a183d57f	comment	The titular character in the Futurama film "The Beast With A Billion Backs" is a genderless extra-dimensional being who asks to be referred to as Shklee and Shklirr.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_a2a386c9	comment	Orion's Arm has a surprisingly simple pronoun system for referring to the six standard sexes in the setting plus addition pronouns to denote virtual and alien life forms of indeterminable gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_a4a6b86a	comment	In Code Geass, Suzaku's mental state can be determined by which personal pronoun he uses: when he's trying to be a good guy, he uses the more polite "boku", but when he was a young boy (and again after he passes the Despair Event Horizon and becomes harsher) he starts using the more boastful "ore". Some fans even took to using this as a label to distinguish his two attitudes (Boku-Suzaku versus Ore-Suzaku). Obviously the English dub doesn't retain this.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_a825da3e	comment	Magic: The Gathering has Trostani, a "fusion" of three dryads, each of whom was female individually but now are aspects of a single organism. Card flavor text says "her", but she uses "we" when speaking, and "they" is mixed in at various points in short stories, the game wiki, and some Word of God articles. Complicating matters even further, Trostani is also merged into a tree-like base, and all Magic living entities are just called "creatures" in gameplay, making "it" a possible option too.note Which is used at least once (possibly out of in-universe ignorance), by Ral Zarek in "A Gathering Storm"
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Pronoun Trouble / int_ac278b73	comment	This also applies a good portion of the cast of Wish, in which CLAMP followed the "angels are genderless" tradition and some of the angels themselves pointed out they are neither male nor female, as well as to the persocom Dita in Chobits. Ruby Moon from Cardcaptor Sakura is technically also genderless but enjoyed taking on a female persona while posing as a human, their reasoning being that they'd get to wear cuter clothes that way.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_ac9f81ac	comment	Similar to Knights of the Old Republic above, Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy allows you to specify your player character's gender. And, also similar to KotOR, cue a whole game full of awkwardly dancing around pronouns (it does help that most NPCs are talking to your character rather than about him... um, or her). In fact, one case of Pronoun Trouble makes it through anyway: at one point, the villain taunts your character with "Ooo, sounds like someone is losing his temper [emphasis added]", even if your character is female.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_aef6c6f9	comment	Kino's Journey features a protagonist who looks slightly masculine but sounds feminine, and who uses both the masculine and feminine forms of "I". Most characters that Kino encounters in-universe assume that Kino is male. When it comes time to learn our protagonist's backstory, it turns out Kino's a girl. The English dub of the first anime plays this up even more by having the voice actor purposely use an androgynous voice for the character.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_affd17dc	comment	Nabari no Ou will likely run into this in the translated manga, with Sora's confusion over whether to use ore or watashi.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b04fd6d8	comment	An Idolmaster MAD averts this with Ryo Akizuki, It uses "me" and "the other (Idol Singer) me".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b0fc9724	comment	Pronoun Trouble drives the humor in the Saturday Night Live skit "It's Pat!" Watching any version of this skit at all makes clear exactly how troubling Pronoun Trouble can get.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b21cfaa4	comment	MegaMan Battle Network 4's infamously-bad translation caused one case of this in the Red Sun version, where after a meeting with WindMan's operator Lilly, Lan's mom says the now-infamous "What a polite young man she was!"
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b4709254	comment	Pops up both in-universe and on This Very Wiki with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles, in regards as to whether Cameron and other Terminators should be referred to as "he/she" or "it".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b69c9abc	comment	The Hydraulic Press Channel is based out of Finland and hosted by native speakers of Finnish, which has no grammatical gender of any kind- there's no 'he'/'his' or 'she'/'hers' equivalent, only 'it' or singular 'they'. Lauri's spoken English is not quite as good as that of his wife Anni, so he sometimes forgets which English pronouns apply to which gender. Once, he accidentally referred to Anni as a 'he', resulting in lots of confused comments on the video.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b704a08a	comment	Probably unintentional in Reborn! (2004) with regards to several characters as a side-effect of the otherwise well-received Art Evolution. Viper, Kikyou and Daisy were all referred to with gender-neutral pronouns, yet their designs are confusing, to say the least. This has led to translations using "he" then "she" for the same characters depending on who's translating.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b747108f	comment	Into the Light: The Sarthians have three sexes: male, female, and neutro. While the humans are wondering how to refer to the neutro at first, the sophisticated translation software they're using comes up with a pronoun on its own. It starts using the Old English "ou" and its derivations (ous, oum, ouself) for the neutro.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b8b5c762	comment	In Tales of the Jokka the Jokka have three genders: anadi, emodo, and eperu. Anadi and emodo use female and male pronouns while eperu are known as "it".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_b9aa83b5	comment	In Citizens of Earth, when you recruit the Alien, the message box says that "He (or she?) can upgrade the VR Arena". All other situations that would require gendered pronouns for this character use "it" instead.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_bb726e28	comment	The sirens in Our Bloody Pearl don't have a concept of gender. When asked, the main character accepts they/them pronouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000: Slaanesh, the (simultaneously) male/female/hermaphroditic Chaos god of hedonism, is variously referred to as he or she or names like Prince of Excess (although the Aeldari use "She Who Thirsts"). Fans have also been know to use "hir" and "s/he".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_bcbfe59e	comment	A minor example for most English speakers, but an obvious one for folks who speak Japanese, is the way in which Hazumu refers to herself/himself in Kashimashi ~Girl Meets Girl~—most notably the use of the 'boku' (male reflexive) pronoun, also referenced in a similarly gender-bending series, Otoboku - Maidens Are Falling For Me.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_bd310eaa	comment	El Goonish Shive, on the other hand, seems to stick to the appropriate pronoun for the character's internal gender.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c0dbc52c	comment	Nobles in Deep Rise are probably best described as hermaphroditic, the only pronoun they ever use is "they", which might be particularly appropriate given their Mind Hive nervous system.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c1d547fd	comment	Strike: A rather awkward instance of this near the end of the season that adapted The Silkworm. As the gang reviews the supposed Bombyx Mori manuscript, and how it resembles the infamous 1986 parody but not the published works of Owen Quine, Strike says the minor mistakes in style are what tripped "them" up. The only reason that he says "them", of course, is that if he said "her" he'd reveal to the TV audience that the killer is Liz Tassel, one scene too early.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c2cdb82b	comment	In The Enemy Papers, every member of the Drac species is both male and female at the same time. The story is told from the standpoint of a human who's been trained to think of the Drac as merely an enemy that need to be exterminated, so the storyteller uses "it" as the pronoun. (E.g., "Jeriba Shigan took out its notepad and began to write.")
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c353ea41	comment	Jurassic Park: All of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park (1993) were engineered to be female as a means of population control, to prevent more dinosaurs than the park staff could handle from appearing on the island since it already has a million and one other problems from computer glitches to indecipherable illness in the dinosaurs. However, characters sometimes refer to them as if they were male, such as Lex inquiring about the Tyrannosaurus, "Is he gonna eat the goat?!" It becomes slightly more justified when it turns out that some of the dinosaurs have mutated to become male and are breeding anyway, but plenty of characters still refer to them as female — Muldoon's last words are, "Clever girl." The Pronoun Trouble reoccurs in the fourth film, Jurassic World, when the park has been rebuilt and dinosaurs are being engineered again; correctness or lack thereof is used to signify which characters recognize the dinosaurs as living, breathing animals and which consider them to just be company assets to make a profit. Perhaps most notably, Vic Hoskins never gets it right and keeps calling the all-female Raptor Squad boys; Delta in particular doesn't take kindly to that and kills him near the end when he tries to calm her down by calling her a "nice boy."
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c43df4d8	comment	Doctor Who: The Doctor can change bodies upon death, essentially reincarnating as the same character. Because the first twelve (thirteen counting the War Doctor) incarnations of the Doctor were male, only "he" was required. However, with the announcement of the Thirteenth Doctor (played by Jodie Whittaker), things got a bit complicated pronoun-wise. Most people seem to settle for "he" or "she" for individual incarnations and singular "they" for the Doctor as a whole, though some people consider the Doctor as a whole to still be a "he" because the majority of their incarnations have been male. At one point late in "The Ghost Monument", Thirteen herself (who has, at this point, only had her current body for about a week) gets confused, saying the below quote while sonicking the TARDIS to materialize: When Two arrives and Jo gets confused about which Doctor is which in "The Three Doctors", Three tries to put it in context: Another multi-Doctor story, "The Two Doctors", leads to Six getting tangled up in reflexive pronouns (again thanks to encountering Two) and Peri calling him out on it.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c4fa53cb	comment	Jurassic Park: all of the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park were engineered to be female as a means of population control, to prevent more dinosaurs than the park staff could handle from appearing on the island since it already has a million and one other problems from computer glitches to indecipherable illness in the dinosaurs. However, the characters—including the park staff—refer to some of the dinosaurs (particularly the adult Tyrannosaurus) as if they were male. They even actually acknowledge this, knowing full well that all the dinosaurs are female (at least, before it turns out that some of them have mutated to become male and therefore start breeding against their designs) but that it's simply easier to not worry all that much about which pronoun is used at any given time.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c5ccc459	comment	Belbel in There, Beyond the Beyond was the victim of this and Viewer Gender Confusion in the Tokyopop translation; the first volumes used the name "Lady Belbel", but when they changed translators, Belbel suddenly became a "he".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_c847354c	comment	Not just pronoun trouble, but name trouble in general is a common problem in The Saga of Tuck given the main character has a male and a female persona, distinct names for each and certain people who only know them by one or the other.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_cae652c	comment	Hunter Ã— Hunter: Kurapika presents translators with plenty of trouble. Again, in Japanese with no gendered pronouns, it's just not mentioned. Ambiguous tribal clothing, a female voice actor, and a tendency to wear female disguises don't help matters. At this point, the English-speaking fandom has pretty much settled on him being a guy since all the dubbers went with that pronoun, but the initial promotions released about the manga specifically stated, "Kurapika's gender has not been revealed." Meanwhile, the Japanese half of the fandom seems to have a pretty even split, so fan art featuring female Kurapika is as common as male. Neferpitou is another problem. No gendered pronouns are used for them in the manga but Neferpitou is a "he" in the databook. Western licensed translations mostly use male pronouns, but the French dub of the 2011 anime refers to Pitou with female pronouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_ce985a8e	comment	The protagonists of By Hook or By Crook, Shy and Val, are two Transgender men who typically refer to each other as "he/him", "guy", and "man". However, they do not pass as cisgender men among the straight world. So in some scenes, like when they conspire to defraud a hardware store clerk, they refer to each other using feminine pronouns.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_cf69b21e	comment	A presumably accidental invocation of this trope (a bio with no gendered pronouns used) led to a Transformer from the Beast Wars toyline (a bat named Sonar) to be considered female by the fanbase (eventually this was apparently made canon).
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d30f13f0	comment	Deadman Wonderland's Toto Sakigami mixes up his pronouns and has to correct himself—usually female (atashi) to neutral (watashi) or male (boku or ore). Yep, he runs the whole spectrum. This is important foreshadowing, for later it's revealed the verbal mix-up is due to him actually being Rinichirou Hagire, a mad scientist and the Chairman of the titular prison. The real Toto having had his personality overwritten once he was Grand Theft Me'd.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d4fdfff4	comment	Some literal Pronoun Trouble happens in-character on ER when Dr. Green's brain tumor began to inhibit his use of "he" and "she". Lambasting the friend of a gunshot victim, his "He blew his brains out!" became "She blew his brains out!", thoroughly confusing the guy he's yelling at.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d786001b	comment	The intro to MySims Agents has Buddy talking about how his comics are really about his best friend... but has to use "they" when forced to use a neutral pronoun to refer to you, because you choose your Sim's gender, and won't have done so yet. It would have been better to move at least that part of Sim creation to the beginning.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d7aab7c1	comment	The Russian dub of Sailor Moon S ran into a similar problem: the translators could not find a way to leave Haruka's gender dubious until she was revealed to be female, which led to Haruka talking about herself in masculine forms. (Verbs in the past tense have genders in Russian, as do adjectives in singular forms.)
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d7f09913	comment	Gender Queer: A Memoir: Upon eir self-realization as nonbinary, Maia is unsure what pronouns e should use. Rejecting more standing ones nonbinary people often use like they/them, e settles on the much rarer Spivak pronouns of e/em/eir (thus the previous).
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Pronoun Trouble / int_d9e1a051	comment	In Fruits Basket there's a joke where a character talks about her child. When we meet this child about 10 episodes later, we meet a beautiful girl who, of course, turns out to be a boy. The dubbers seemed to have (initially) missed this memo. They erroneously translate "my child" as "my son", potentially ruining the joke. Fortunately, they did eventually catch it; in the episode, the son appears, in a flashback to the original conversation, it's correctly translated as "my child". In the manga, however, it was translated in English as "my son", therefore ruining the joke when the boy finally appears.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_da9dd096	comment	The Gray Garden: Many of the characters had androgynous appearances and/or no pronoun references, so vgperson had to guess at several characters' genders as avoiding gender references for them entirely would have come off as too awkward in English. Their guesses turned out to be mostly right, but they still had to change the pronouns for Etihw after the game's creator told them that Etihw was genderless.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_dacffea0	comment	The Chakats of Chakona Space use "shi" and "hir" to refer to themselves and other herms. Whereas the gender-shifting Skunktaurs use "hy" and "hys", presumably because they are all born in male phase while mature Chakats always have breasts.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_dc72c82f	comment	Fallen London: As one of the choices of gender is "An individual of mysterious and indistinct gender", you will naturally stumble into this when speaking with almost anyone, who will call you "Ah, sir- er, ma- er, yes," rather than Ma'am or Sir. Or in the case of a particularly belligerent soldier, being referred to as a "...whatever it is you are!". Eventually the devs got around it by just asking the player what they want to be called in-universe. Now you can pick masculine, feminine, or gender-neutral titles regardless of your character's actual gender. But you can again tell the relevant NPC to quit bothering you with such trifling matters, and continue to be referred to as "ah, sir- er, ma- er, yes".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_de4c0209	comment	A meta example occurs with Wandering Son as there's been discussion on the wiki about whether to refer to the transgender characters by their assigned gender (Shuuichi is "he" and Yoshino is "she") or by their desired gender (Shuuichi is "she" and Yoshino is "he"). The general consensus is to simply match what's used in-story (Shuuichi "he" / Yoshino "she"). Yuki is more straightforward, as she presents as a woman and everyone in-story refers to her as "she". By the end of the manga, almost all fans concretely use "she" for Shuuchi but Yoshino is a more difficult case. Yoshino decides to not transition however there is a vagueness to whether they're cisgender or not. This leaves fans stumped on what pronoun to use, especially since it would be a huge spoiler if you didn't use "he",
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Pronoun Trouble / int_de73bec9	comment	In Home: Adventures with Tip & Oh, Boov have Bizarre Alien Sexes that for easier human understanding, are expressed in combinations of "Boy" and "Girl". Thus the proper pronouns are used the same way; a Boy-Boy-Girl can be referred to as "Him-Him-Her", and so on.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e0f72cac	comment	Sticky Dilly Buns features a slightly unusual instance. Faced with the problem of how to refer to the gender-flexible Angel, Dillon digs up the gender-neutral pronoun "zie". However, because someone named "Zii" features in the comic, this just leads to more confusion.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e381e71f	comment	Digimon Tamers: Because of his gender-neutral style of speaking, Lopmon could have gone any which way. By the time Shiuchon was trying to teach him male pronouns, it was a case of She's a Man in Japan in the dub. In the original Japanese version, Renamon was written to be "genderless"/androgynous, and accordingly uses the gender-neutral watashi as a first-person pronoun. Since watashi is also commonly seen as a casual female pronoun, most dubs went with Renamon being seen and treated as female, which led to an odd situation when a conversation late in the series had Renamon awkwardly answer the question "you're a girl, right?" with a statement that Digimon have No Biological Sex (implying a lack of identification or interest in gender). Because of this, the majority of the non-Japanese fanbase thinks of Renamon as female, and fansubs even follow suit. The German dub outright made Renamon male, leading to an even more awkward situation when Renamon evolves into the extremely feminine-looking and -behaving Sakuyamon (granted, through a Fusion Dance with the female Ruki).
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e5c6748d	comment	In The Three Stooges short "Disorder in the Court," the boys take the witness stand in defense of a dancer who's been accused of killing a man by the name of Kirk Robin. Curly is first up, but he's a bit too informal speaking to the judge.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e5feb1e	comment	In the fourth case of the second Ace Attorney game, an important plot point is the fact that the name Adrian Andrews can apply to any gender, and Shelly de Killer messes up by using "he" instead of "she" despite claiming he met her in person. The script does a good job of dancing around using pronouns for that person, but it's helped in that the name is only mentioned a few times during the time it's important. Also, when presenting profiles that people don't have a specific response to, they'll often say things like, "I don't know anything about this person."
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e6275a02	comment	Looking for Group: Cale initially assumes his pet panthet Soomba to be male, leading to her mauling him whenever he refers to her with male pronouns, and it takes Cale some time to get used to referring to her by female pronouns. The comically villainous lich Richard is revealed to actually be Regyna, the real Richard's elder sister, who assumed her brother's identity after her memories were erased when she became undead. While Richard ultimately chooses to continue using male pronouns, the characters being unsure of whether to use male or female pronouns becomes something of a Running Gag.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_e831cb19	comment	Yuu Valentine from Project NRI is referred to in-text as "they".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_eaba50a1	comment	In The Pride of Parahumans sexless protagonist Argentum uses "ze" and "zir" most of the time.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_eb3f3551	comment	Discussed in Mass Effect: Andromeda, when an angaran ambassador asks the head of the Nexus Cultural Center, an asari, how they deal with pronouns as a monogendered species. The asari informs him that it largely depends on the asari.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_ef076a36	comment	Captain Janeway of Star Trek: Voyager dislikes being called "sir," preferring to be addressed with the more gender-neutral "Captain."note which is actually less formal in real life militaries, akin to first-name basis. She's been known to tolerate the occasional "ma'am" as well.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f0a86c12	comment	In How I Met Your Mother, Marshall got himself into this because he didn't want to reveal to Lily that his co-worker Jenkins was a woman, and not a man, as Lily assumed. As he puts it himself, he just had to avoid pronouns (queue flashback in which Marshall tells Lily about how a superior chose people for a job: "him, him, her, him, him, Beat... Jenkins")
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f0dd8f0b	comment	In a supplemental short story for Reversed Star, there's an alien with four heads called a "stalk." A single head uses the pronoun "it," while the whole creature (which is implied to have a sort of shared consciousness) is referred to as "they."
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f655ed11	comment	In an episode of Frasier, the titular character learns that Maris has been having an affair and goes to confront her. He asks Niles' Hispanic maid for "Mrs. Crane" and she leads him to a sauna. After a lot of buildup, he opens the door and we see...Niles.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f6c05e8e	comment	In an episode of Friends, Rachel doesn't want to admit to Phoebe that she chose an inexperienced but hot man as her work assistant over an experienced woman that Phoebe expected her to pick, so she tries to avoid using any names or pronouns by telling her that "my assistant was very happy that I hired... my assistant".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f81101f2	comment	In the original Japanese version of PokÃ©mon: The Original Series, the somewhat infamous episode where Satoshi (Ash) crossdresses must have been hard to translate. Satoshi's usual pronoun is the somewhat arrogant masculine "ore", and he tripped and had trouble using the feminine "atashi".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f9368d52	comment	In Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, there's very heavy subtext in the original dialogue, thanks to specific pronoun use, that the person most special to Sora that NaminÃ© is replacing in his memories isn't in fact Kairi, but Riku. When Sora meets the other kids in his memory of the Destiny Islands, the pronoun they use for his 'special person' is aitsu (ã‚¢ã‚¤ãƒ„). The pronoun is casual and gender neutral but more masculine leaning (think of referring to someone as 'guy', regardless of gender), and it's generally considered rude/insulting to use the pronoun towards a girl. When Sora realizes NaminÃ© has been tampering with his memories, she uses neutral pronouns to describe the person most special to him. However, in both Japanese and English, Sora assumes she means Kairi. But the full extent of Sora's misunderstanding is all but lost in the English translation, as it translates aitsu to feminine pronouns. In fact, the last time Sora sees the Riku Replica, he refers to him by aitsu in Japanese, but in English, just calls out his name instead. There is an attempt in the English translation of the Chain of Memories novel to rectify this at least, as the subtext from the game is mostly preserved, while also going further and implying that the memory of the meteor shower promise NaminÃ© tampers with was actually between Sora and Riku. You can read about it in more detail here. Sora also uses aitsu to refer to Riku in Kingdom Hearts II, when he sees him at the top of the mountain in The Land of Dragons. This time, it's translated more accurately to "That guy..."
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Pronoun Trouble / int_f980cee9	comment	Tar Gibbons of the Rod Allbright Alien Adventures, whose species has 5 sexes, actually prefers "it" pronouns. When Rod brings up the obvious objection, Tar Gibbons simply states that as it is neither male nor female, "he" or "she" pronouns would be wrong, and it considers that to be more insulting than just going with "it".
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Pronoun Trouble / int_faf0ebf1	comment	Blade Runner 2049: Used for a Wham Line for the Red Herring twist that K is not the replicant child. Only gender-neutral terms like "baby", "kid", and "child" are used by or in front of characters who know the truth, until The Reveal, to hide the reveal that Deckard and Rachael's offspring is a girl (specifically Ana, who implanted her memories into replicants, like K, which is why his memories are "real").
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Pronoun Trouble / int_fd3487b9	comment	Mentioned in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, in regards to Bowletta.
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Pronoun Trouble / int_ff9ab17f	comment	The J'naii in the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "The Outcast" are an androgynous species for whom gender is "primitive". Their pronoun for themselves is supposedly difficult to translate; it comes through to us as "one".
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