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Rebellious Rebel
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This character is the kind of person who sees the faults in La Résistance, whether it be that the rebels are no better than the oppressors themselves, or that they were wrong in rebelling from the beginning. They break off from the already existing rebellion to act against said rebellion. Often, but not always, this means appealing to their original superiors from the faction the rebels acted against from the beginning, reasoning that the rebellion was unjustified. Others start their own resistance, fighting against both The Empire and the original rebellion, knowing that the empire deserved to be brought to justice, but also that the methods of the original resistance cannot be justified either. This is usually triggered by some kind of immoral action of the Rebel Leader who defected in the first place. Either by a Face–Heel Turn or always being a real bastard beneath their nice demeanor, they will end up having some sort of Kick the Dog/Moral Event Horizon moment to make the Rebellious Rebel call this out to the leader and leave the rebellion, or depending on the setting, get killed for wronging their superiors. Usually found in military situations, but not always. Compare Anti-Mutiny, where the leader is disloyal and their subordinates arrest them for it, and The Last DJ, whose conflicts with their superiors are chronic, who has no superior to their superiors they could appeal to, but generally faces nothing worse than Reassigned to Antarctica. Contrast Dangerous Deserter. See also Anti Anti Christ, Enemy Civil War, Divided We Fall; this trope clearly pits a hero against a villain. Compare White Sheep. Also the Type 3 Chaotic Neutral. |
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Soames from DMZ was originally a soldier for one side in a Divided States of America situation, who intended to defect from the rebels back over to the US army. On the way to do so, he got an infection, had a vision, and decided to enjoy the freedom of being on neither side instead. By the time the story begins, he has an entire squad of soldiers who have joined him. | |
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Land of the Blind: Joe becomes one of these when he realizes that their Rebel Leader is more than just a Well-Intentioned Extremist but Knight Templar bordering on Magnificent Bastard. | |
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Early on in the Honor Harrington series, the Havenite Legislaturalist Regime is overthrown by the Committee of Public Safety. After cleaning house of all "subversive elements" in the Navy (who they blamed the rebellion on) and instituting a tyrannical rule (still labeling themselves as "rebels") they manage to upset many surviving Navy personnel. The remainder stays quiet for most of the series, but then the truth of the rebellion comes out. It also turns up in his Safehold series. If you label The Church as The Empire and The Charisian Empire as La Résistance, then the Temple Loyalists are this. David Weber seems to like this trope. |
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In 1865, as in real life, Andrew Johnson stayed loyal to the Union during the civil war despite being a Southerner. On the other hand, he holds many views that aren’t all that different from the Confederates. He believes that blacks are inferior to whites, wants the South to be granted amnesty as quickly as possible, and even allows former Confederate generals to resume positions of authority within the South. | |
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On Roseanne, the title character's mother, Bev, is very old-fashioned and conservative while her own mother, Nana Mary, is a Cool Old Lady who talks about having numerous affairs and abortions when she was younger. In one episode (albeit in the non-canon eighth season), the two have a talk where Mary notes that Bev is just as naturally rebellious as she is — it's just that her rebellion had to go in the other direction. | |
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Blake Belladonna of RWBY was once a member of the White Fang, a rebel faunus group striving for equal rights. When it became corrupt under new leadership, she ended up cutting ties with the organization and running. By the end of Volume 4, she becomes determined to "take back" the White Fang. | |
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In 2008 Pro Wrestling Revolution was born as part of the National Wrestling Alliance, started with the goal to take pro wrestling back to where it was supposed to be and to acknowledged the lucha libre culture that was being shunned in the USA. But a year in Fabe Ramirez made it increasingly clear that all who were not with Revolution were against Revolution, so Billy Blade started a Vendetta against it. Five years in, Vendetta Pro became an official NWA member. | |
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In the Dream SMP, Eret is this during the L'Manburg War for Independence, betraying L'Manburg after Dream makes him an offer he can't refuse. He eventually grows to be a Regretful Traitor after he realizes the ramifications of his betrayal are far more severe than he initially anticipated once the Cerebus Syndrome settles in. | |
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Saw Gerrera in Rogue One from Star Wars quit the Rebel Alliance with his Partisans due to conflict over their modus operandi, as Saw's was at odds with their morals, goals, and caused negative public relations, not helped with his growing paranoia on who to trust due to receiving several assassination attempts and being poisoned to the point where he needs mobile life support by the time we see him in Rogue One. Expanded Universe material further elaborates on the tension between the two groups, with the final season of Rebels television show detailing what exactly was the final straw for Saw and the Alliance for the former to split away. The movie's protagonist, Jyn Erso, is a stubborn, defiant loner who constantly frustrates her potential friends and allies with her unwillingness to work productively with them or trust them. In a line that became infamous for its use in a pre-release trailer, but didn't make it into the movie itself, Jyn tells the leadership of the Rebel Alliance, "This is a rebellion, isn't it? I rebel." |
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In World of Warcraft, the Argent Dawn is an offshoot of the Scarlet Crusade, which initially split from the Church of Light because the latter was unable to deal with the undead threat. The Argent Dawn split off when it turned out that the Crusade had crossed over from Church Militant to Fantastic Racism and Religion of Evil. Likewise, the Scryers split off from Prince Kael'Thas' forces after it became apparent that the outcast prince was suffering from a bad case of With Great Power Comes Great Insanity. |
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Played with Cara in The Mandalorian. Her issue wasn't with the Rebellion itself, but with the post-war duties such as peacekeeping and bodyguarding politicians. She did not take the transition well and took an "early retirement" (implied desertion), given that she fully expected a bounty on her head. | |
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Red Hood in Injustice 2 views Batman's attempt to restore the old status quo as soft and misguided, while also disagreeing with Superman's strict dictatorship, leading him to forge his own path. | |
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In The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, this is the stance of many Nords in regards to the Skyrim Civil War. Skyrim has long been a major supporter of the Third Tamriellic Empire, which was founded by Talos (more commonly known by his Imperial name of Tiber Septim), one of their great cultural heroes who ascended to godhood as the Ninth Divine after his death. However, when Septim's dynasty ended during the Oblivion Crisis, the Empire entered a swift decline. By the events of Skyrim some 200 years later, the Empire is a shell of its former self, reduced to just three functional provinces. While they managed to fend off the Aldmeri Dominion during the Great War, they were forced to accept a humiliating treaty to end it, known as the White-Gold Concordat. One of the provisions of the Concordat is a ban on Talos worship, enforced by the Altmeri (High Elf) religious extremists, the Thalmor. Most Nords would rather die than stop worshiping Talos, so the Holds of eastern Skyrim broke off and formed the Stormcloak Rebellion, named after its leader, Ulfric Stormcloak. While there are still Nords who genuinely support the Empire, many other Imperial-aligned Nords suggest that this is done out of a sense of tradition, a belief that independence would be disastrous for their homeland, and outright distrust for the nationalistic and Humanity Is Superior attitude held by Ulfric and his Stormcloak army. | |
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The Obernewtyn Chronicles has two groups of these. A passive version is Gilaine and the other Misfits in the Druid’s camp. The Druid is rebelling against the Council but is if anything more fanatically opposed to Misfits. After the Battlegames, the Obernewtyn Misfits become this to the main rebellion, and force them to look closer at what their plans actually involve. |
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Michio Pa in The Expanse. She starts out a belter and joins the OPA to rebel against the oppression against the inner planets. Then, the leader of the OPA gets her girlfriend killed thanks to sending her on a mission with a bad commanding officer, so Michio jumps ship and joins the Free Belter Navy, an OPA splinter faction. She then realizes the boss of the Free Belter Navy is The Sociopath who doesn't give a hoot about the Belt at all so she starts her own splinter faction inside a splinter faction from a revolutionary organization. She ends up being forced to work with Earth and Mars, the factions she started rebelling against in the first place, and is voted the head of the Spacing Guild. | |
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Supreme Commander 2: Thalia and her brother see themselves as trying to liberate the Illuminate from UEF control, but later after siding with the Cybran terrorist Gauge, he reveals that all that they have been doing are terrorist acts for his gain. The last mission has them trying to stop Gauge and the Royal Guardian terrorists. | |
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The Outlaws: Following the November revolution, the Communist extremists attempt to overthrow the new Social-Democratic government, which is perceived by them as traitorous to the workers' cause, by starting a new revolution. | |
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Jack Frost of The Invisibles had shades of this at first, being so anarchist he rejected even the minimal and fluid authority of a cell of the Invisibles. | |
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In Steven Universe, much of what we hear about Greg's family presents them as stuffy and overly conservative, with him as the kid who ran off, changed his name to "Universe" and tried to become a rock star. The Steven Universe: Future episode "Mr. Universe" actually has him and Steven argue about this, with Steven saying that he would have preferred the sort of stable but restrictive childhood that Greg hated. | |
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019): Madison Russell is revealed to be part of Alan Jonah's Eco-Terrorist group alongside her mother, but she rebels against them and steals the ORCA from them after she realizes they're willing to murder billions of people to achieve their aims, and after King Ghidorah takes control whilst Jonah refuses to try and stop him. | |
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In Chrono's backstory in Chrono Crusade, he was originally fully behind the Sinner's rebellion against demon society. However, he couldn't agree with Aion's tactics and ended up rebelling against the Sinners, and eventually joined The Magdalene Order. | |
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In Horus Heresy, Horus's attack on the Marines on Isstvan IV was motivated to prevent this. The survivors were uncommonly enthusiastic about opposing him and the rest of the treacherous forces thereafter; they bogged them down for months. | |
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Garm Bel Iblis from The Thrawn Trilogy is an unusually mild example. He was a major part of the young Rebel Alliance and split with it because, after Bail Organa's death on Alderaan, he saw Mon Mothma as gathering more and more power to herself and her closest allies. His smaller, separate rebellion didn't get in the other one's way but harassed the Empire on its own. Even after Mon Mothma's Rebellion won and reformed into the New Republic, he stayed away, seeing his former ally seem to consolidate power even further. But when someone from the New Republic needed rescue, he did it and accepted the formal invitation to join. Not long after, he saw why Mon Mothma did as she did. Not for personal power, but because so few people could be trusted with the responsibility of billions of lives. | |
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Better Bones AU: Tall Shadow breaks off from SkyClan with a good portion of the Clan due to anger at Clear Sky's actions of kicking out cats for their disabilities, and Thunder Storm in turn decides to break off and create a new Clan because Tall Shadow not taking Bumble into the group after Turtle Heart's death due to being a house cat incapable of fighting makes Thunder Storm see her as no different from Clear Sky. | |
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Animorphs has David. He starts out as a very-reluctant new addition to the team's anti-Yeerk resistance movement, only to rebel against them and briefly become a side unto himself. | |
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In Code Geass, the Black Knights desert Zero after finding out some of his secrets, although they were manipulated so that they thought he had betrayed them. | |
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The Bible: It includes a minor figure named Mered, whose name means "rebel". Jewish tradition identifies him with Caleb because when ten of the twelve spies rebelled against Moses, he (along with Joshua) remained faithful and "rebelled" against them. Korah also leads a rebellion against Moses, and he and all his followers die from it; however, the Bible specifically notes that Korah's sons survived. Traditionally they abandoned their father's side just before God smote everybody else. |
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In Naked Came the Stranger, the hippie Arthur Franhop allowed himself to be drafted because his friends had all dodged in so many creative ways that the only truly cool thing left to do was to join the army. His friends congratulated him on his imaginative stand. Luckily for him, he ended up in Maryland directing traffic. | |
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The alternate dimension version of Buford in Phineas and Ferb The Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension doesn't have a problem with the rebellion, he just likes rebelling. | |
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Hermitcraft Season 9: Grian initially vowed to not take part in the resistance against King Ren, so he opens "Resistance Assistance" and becomes a consultant for Impulse's resistance. This is later exploited by Ren himself, who hires Grian to resist the resistance. | |
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In Gav Thorpe's Warhammer 40,000 story "Renegades", when Gessart decides to take their company renegade, several Marines speak against him and are murdered. Later, another one, Rykhel, takes a saviour pod from their ship in hopes of getting back with news of their treachery; Gessart is enraged that he didn't speak up when challenged, and though they are fleeing the danger that Rykhel is going into, he claims that he fled from fear. | |
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Jim Raynor from StarCraft is a borderline case in that he only leaves La Résistance when it has already defeated The Empire through dubious means, and begins its transition into the '''new''' Empire. He becomes the new Resistance, and throughout StarCraft II his major worry is that he'll turn out just as corrupt as his former allies. | |
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In Winning Colors, treasonous senior officers try to use their ship; their juniors realize the treachery and mutiny. (Leading to a very junior officer being in command.) | |
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Katniss Everdeen in The Hunger Games, especially since she never meant to start a rebellion in the first place. On top of that, in Mockingjay, she really doesn't care much for President Coin, and the feeling is mutual. | |
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Free State of Jones: The film centers on a group of disgruntled white farmers and fugitive slaves rising up to fight the Confederacy, which itself was deemed the "rebels". Jones County, Mississippi secedes from the Confederacy just as the Confederate States did. | |
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The Victors Project: Nolan De Naro is a vehement and committed Rebel, who serves as an ally of the main characters for a long time, but ultimately breaks away from them for their decision to break Katniss and Peeta (who he views as a Category Traitor) out of the arena, causing them to reluctantly declare him open game for The Reverse Mole they have in the career alliance. | |
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On The Legend of Korra, non-bender Asami Sato defies her father and refuses to join the Equalist rebellion with him against Benders. | |
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Loki in their newer incarnations. Past Loki successfully noticed that he became a traitor in his villainy so he made arrangements to change that by dying and other very extreme measures (like not being one of anything). The kicker is? Most people don't want them to! Why? Because Loki's other setting is a chaotic trickster which is really not something the powers that be can use. Their predictable evil was actually good for making the Asgardians look good in comparison and create an "easily" defeatable threat to stabilize their society. So they're currently rebelling against rebelling because that counter-intuitively causes things to stay the same. Got that? | |
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