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Religious Russian Roulette

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Religious Russian Roulette	comment	Bob is in a crisis, so he turns to God, gods, Crystal Dragon Jesus, aliens, or Trope-tan for aid but laces it with an ultimatum. Bob will be the bestest follower and prophet of his/her/its/their greatness if they'll just come through with this one teeny-tiny miracle. If they don't? Well, then he'll have empirical proof of the absence, sociopathy or jerkassness of God, and will convert to another religion or become a Hollywood Atheist or Nay-Theist. This gets very thorny very quickly as Bob's miracle will probably fail to manifest. Did he not pray hard enough? Was he ignored? Is God even there? In his game of Religious Russian Roulette, Bob just pulled the trigger on the loaded chamber of gnostic note Feeling certain of God's (non)existence. a/theism. He may even claim "Evil Stole My Faith." If the Powers That Be didn't come through for him, why would they do so for anyone else? This nice little angry depression will last right up until a left-field miracle kicks in. It is Maybe Magic, Maybe Mundane, but Bob now has something spiritual to chew on. Typically, any non-answer from the Powers That Be is chalked up to Bob asking for the wrong thing or for the wrong reason, such as selfish or hurtful wishes or expecting God to out and out prove His existence on demand. If it's anything like a Chick Tract, the appearance of a true miracle (on demand, no less!) will instantly convert Bob to whatever religion the author wants. In works where the existence of God and the Devil are established facts, this situation is often caused because either God Is Evil, a Jerkass, inept, or simply flawed. At the very least, as in World of Jerkass, it's a case for God and Satan Are Both Jerks. See also: Smite Me, O Mighty Smiter, Crisis of Faith, In Mysterious Ways, Emergency Multifaith Prayer, and Egocentrically Religious. Compare Pascal's Wager.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_1921ae4e	comment	The Book of Malachi has God directly telling people to "prove me now"note Chapter 3 verse 10, King James version by testing whether they benefited from being tithed.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_1db412d3	comment	An unusual example in Mistborn: After Sazed crosses the Despair Event Horizon, he loses his sense of generalized faith and starts going through the 200+ religions he knows about looking for one that he feels can offer a suitable explanation for everything wrong with the world. He winds up throwing out all of them for having logical flaws before eventually realizing it doesn't really work like that. He eventually finds a solution that is unavailable to most: He becomes a god himself and starts his own religion.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_261c8d3f	comment	The Simpsons: In "How the Test Was Won", when Lisa's class is about to make a very important test that clearly none of them are ready for, superintendent Chalmers advises the students to try this approach:
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_400469e	comment	Calvin and Hobbes: Calvin as he unsuccessfully begs the mighty and awful snow demons for it to snow: Played with in another strip where Calvin, just before beaning Susie with a water balloon, prays for a sign that this would be wrong. No sign; he beans her and she beats him up. "How come the universe always gives you the sign after you do it?" In this case, he's hoping for a negative result, and the object of the experiment is objective morality rather than God, but otherwise the structure is the same.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_72262aee	comment	Avatar: The Last Airbender: Sokka spends an entire episode stuck in a shallow hole, bargaining with "Karma person or thing or whoever's in charge of this stuff!" If they agree to let him out, he'll agree to give up meat and sarcasm...
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_7894fb5d	comment	In The Four Gospels, Satan tries to tempt Jesus to throw Himself off the temple to prove His divinity, reasoning that if He was really the Son of God, God would send angels to protect Him from falling. Jesus rebuts this by quoting the Scripture which says, "You shall not put the Lord your God to the test." (Deuteronomy 6:16, specifically calling the Israelites out for having done it before.) At Jesus' crucifixion, He is taunted by the thieves crucified to the right and left of Him. The Pharisees, Sadducees, chief priests, scribes and elders who challenge Him to come down from the cross and then they would believe He is the Son of God and king of the Jews; one of the thieves urges Jesus to save Himself, only to be rebuked by the other thief who admits they deserve their due punishments while Jesus has done nothing wrong.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_78a64189	comment	The Book of Judges has the story of Gideon and the fleece (Judges 6:36-40) where Gideon puts God to the test twice. He was trying to divinenote Sorry God's will rather than test His reliability, but the test still seems rather... direct. Perhaps a Flip-Flop of God?note Sorry...
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_a32b6a64	comment	Happens in an episode of The West Wing. There is a murderer due to be executed in a matter of hours and it is within President Bartlett's power to commute his sentence to life in prison. Bartlett is a devout Roman Catholic and does not believe in the death penalty, but commuting a sentence when the criminal's guilt is beyond question would be very impolitic. Over the course of the episode, Toby talks with the President about the matter after speaking himself with his rabbi, Joey Lucas, a deaf Quaker, tells the President she is very much against it when she meets with him on an unrelated matter, and the President has a phone conversation with the Pope. None of these tilt the scales. Then he receives a visit from his longtime priest and friend who lays out that Jed knows in his heart that the death penalty is wrong and that God had sent him the message across as wide a religious spectrum as possible. But by then, the convict is dead and Jed sits down, dejected, to give his friend his confession.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_a5549ed0	comment	For a specific in-Scripture example, look at the Book of Job. God allowed a lot of crap to happen to Job even though the book explicitly states that Job didn't do anything to earn it — Satan was just trying to goad him into blaspheming by making him suffer. Job spends most of the book lamenting that he didn't deserve his suffering (without blaspheming God and blaming Him like Satan desired) — especially since his friends, on the grounds that suffering is the consequence of sin, argue that he did somehow deserve it — and working his way up to demanding answers as to why it happened. God eventually does intervene, but only to say "I'm God, you're not, who are you to make Me explain Myself?" Job then understands what he was doing and stops.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_bac64636	comment	The Grey has a scene in which the main character (lost in the Alaskan wilderness after a plane crash, with the likelihood of starving / freezing to death very close, and with his fellow survivors having already been killed by the wolf pack that's still stalking him) has a Rage Against the Heavens moment where he tells God "Fuck faith, earn it!" and that he needs help now. Nothing happens. However, the ending scene has him surrounded by the wolf pack, but the alpha chooses to fight him in a one-on-one dominance fight, rather than having them all attack at once, giving him a fighting chance of survival (he's a seasoned soldier armed with a knife and improvised claw-knuckledusters). The ending is ambiguous about whether he survived the fight or not.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_bcadd7cb	comment	Warhammer 40,000: One of the many reasons people fall to Chaos. Despite the massive religious bureaucracy set up after his quasi-death, the God-Emperor of Man is still just a man, so when prayer to Him doesn't work, people tend to go with one of the other Physical Gods of the setting. note Not that they'll save you either, but they're happy to drive you so mad that you don't care how doomed you are. That being said, if he wasn't a god when he was placed in life support, he almost certainly is after 10,000 years of worship. Khorne (one of the Chaos gods) does not take well to people who demand things of him without something to show for it, or even pray to him. Time spent praying is time not spent butchering enemies (or allies), spilling their blood so he may drink it.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_bd23f60b	comment	Sergeant Major Williams does this in an episode of It Ain't Half Hot, Mum where he tried praying to Hare Krishna.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_d5c757ea	comment	Takopi's Original Sin: Shizuka confesses to Takopi that she wished on a star for her parents to stay together. When the divorce happened anyway, she lost faith in both magic and God.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_dd0a4790	comment	In The Facts of Life, Blair describes how this applies to her: she once prayed to God to stop her parents' divorce. He didn't, and she stopped believing in Him.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_f9d9198e	comment	In Major League, Pedro Cerrano is a practitioner of voodoo, worshiping the spirit Jabu. In his last at bat, Pedro tells Jabu that if he can't hit this curve, he won't believe in him anymore. After two strikes, he decides to abandon him anyway. "I say 'Fuck you.' I do it myself." He hits it, it's a homer, and by the sequel, he's converted to Buddhism. It's also implied that this is how he came to worship Jabu in the first place; when a teammate talks to him about Christianity, Pedro remarks that he likes Jesus very much — but he never helped him hit breaking balls.
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Religious Russian Roulette / int_fca0567c	comment	Conan the Barbarian (1982): Conan, rather than giving Crom an ultimatum, essentially says, "Help me win this battle, and if you don't then fuck you, I'll do it myself." And it pays off; when Conan is about to be struck down, a vision of Valeria appears so he can finish the battle. It's probably the most book-faithful part of the movie: Crom, being the war-god of a Proud Warrior Race, has no time to aid weaklings who cannot overcome their challenges alone.
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