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Retroactive Idiot Ball

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Retroactive Idiot Ball	comment	This character's action makes complete sense. You watch the movie and you understand his motivations. He either had to kill his mentor or let his son die. It's as simple as that. Except that it's not, because in three years, there's going to be a prequel that reveals a Third Option that our hero definitely should have known about. This trope is when a later installment in a series or franchise introduces a piece of information that the character should know, that retroactively makes the character's actions seem unnecessary, obviously misguided, or downright dumb. Headcanons rationalizing the character's actions abound, but Canon itself makes no attempt to explain it. It's like they were hoping no one would notice, or maybe more that they didn't notice themselves. The powers that be may come up with an explanation when pressed, but no canon, in-universe explanation exists. If the out-of-universe explanation for an action is "because that power hadn't been invented yet", "because the writer hadn't written the prequel yet", or "because [character who definitely would have known how to solve the problem] didn't exist until the Interquel", and there's no In-Universe explanation provided, you probably have this trope. This often results from either a deliberate Retcon (whether the implications of the actions get changed intentionally or accidentally is another matter), or a universe receiving an unexpected expansion, such as a Prequel or a lore-heavy spin-off. It is especially common in franchises with huge universes that span many different writers who may not always be on the same page, and in series where installments don't take place in the order they're released in, where a character may learn a piece of information in a later addition that they appear to "forget" for audience members who consume the media chronologically rather than in release order. Compare Idiot Ball, where the character's actions didn't make sense even when they were first written, Series Continuity Error, where canon contradicts itself, and Continuity Snarl, where the continuity is so complicated that no one can keep it straight. Often caused by an Ass Pull, but can also result from a revelation that had solid build up if the series has been going on long enough. Can result in a retroactive example of Forgot About His Powers if a character has powers that weren't added until later additions to the series. See also Voodoo Shark and Fan-Disliked Explanation. As this trope requires explaining plot points of at least two works, all of the examples below are spoilers.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_10b219a9	comment	In Dragon Ball Z: Cooler's Revenge, Cooler sends his three squad members to hunt down Goku, Gohan, and Krillin, who are able to avoid detection by hiding their powers and laying low. When Gohan slips ups and gets found, Piccolo saves him from Cooler's men, only being beaten when Cooler attacks him before Piccolo can finish off the last of his men. The next film, Dragon Ball Z: The Return of Cooler, reveals Cooler knows Instant Transmission, meaning he could have easily stopped Gohan the second he sensed his power by teleporting to him, or saved his men by teleporting as soon as Piccolo appeared and stop him, making the normally pragmatic Cool look dumb for not doing so.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_13a61240	comment	The Rise of Skywalker attempts to plug the idea of the "Holdo Maneuver" in The Last Jedi by proclaiming that the move (essentially accelerating into hyperspace and turning the ship into a ram) is "one in a million." While this does explain why the move isn't common, it also makes Holdo's Heroic Sacrifice rather baffling, since she would have been sacrificing the last ship in the fleet on a maneuver that would probably simply have catapulted her across the galaxy—bordering on out-of-character, even, since Holdo's entire purpose is to be the Boring, but Practical commander who picks subtle strategies that work over gambling on the longshot. If Holdo was truly out of options, it raises the question of why only she used such a strategy, and not the support cruisers in her fleet who simply kept going straight on until they ran out of fuel and died where they stood.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_1484a16e	comment	Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone involves Dumbledore being baited away from the school via "urgent letter" from the Ministry, and so is currently flying to London (presumably on a broom) when the climax goes down. But Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets shows us that wizards can go from fireplace to fireplace with Floo Powder, and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire shows us that they have almost free-form teleportation. If Dumbledore really got an "urgent letter", why is he using the slowest available travel method?
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_1e015a5d	comment	Obi-Wan's ghost in The Empire Strikes Back tells Luke that he cannot interfere if Luke decides to confront Darth Vader. The Last Jedi, The Rise of Skywalker, and an episode of Star Wars: The Clone Wars show Force ghosts interfering with the physical world, so Obi-Wan could have done a lot to help out Luke during his fight with Vader.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_2172e43f	comment	Batman: Arkham Knight: In the main game, the Joker infected were locked up in one of Batman's hidden hideouts in Gotham, but the hideout was discovered and stormed by Harley Quinn. Except the "Race Track" DLC, released months after the game, reveals that Batman has a secure facility miles away from Gotham that he uses as a race track. Which makes one wonder why he didn't think of locking the infected there.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_2a8943c0	comment	Miraculous Ladybug: The plot of Episode 6, "Lady WiFi", revolves around Alya believing ChloÃ© might be Ladybug. The same episode contains a minor subplot where Cat Noir worries about the same possibility, since he's long been crushing on his partner and the idea that she was the local Alpha Bitch this whole time is kinda upsetting. However, episode 26, "Stoneheart", showing the first villain Ladybug and Cat Noir ever fought, contains a very public rescue of ChloÃ© by Ladybug, so both of them should have already known Ladybug couldn't be ChloÃ©.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_2c2a56e3	comment	In The Phantom Menace, Qui-Gon is fatally injured from his battle with Darth Maul, and as Obi-Wan cradles him he painfully tells him it's too late to save him and that he'll have to train Anakin in his stead. Anakin's very motivation throughout the Prequel Trilogy and especially Revenge of the Sith is to obtain the power to prevent PadmÃ© from dying. The Mandalorian and The Rise of Skywalker establish that Force Healing is very much a thing and can not only heal fatal injuries of others, but can even bring back the recently deceased, albeit at a cost. Even worse, while Rey has a Hand Wave in that she learned it studying sacred Jedi texts that weren't made available to most, Kylo Ren picks it up easily after watching her do it to him, saving him from the same sort of stab wound that did in Qui-Gon (though, this could also be Hand Wave'd on the basis of their diad). There's little practical reason to why this skill wasn't widespread taught amongst the Jedi Order at its height. Notably, the Legends continuity did have the ability, but it was typically given a necessary balance in that it couldn't outright save people from death, and required meditation and a lot of time to learn to use on the fly, meaning it wouldn't be able to outright save people from dying.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_30a5ebfd	comment	Naruto: The premise of the series revolves around the fact that the title character, Naruto, is hated and shunned by the rest of Konohagure because they believe him to be the Nine-Tailed Fox that destroyed their village and killed several villages—including the beloved Fourth Hokage. It's revealed that Naruto is not the fox, but an innocent child that was chosen to contain the fox, and also, Naruto is the son of both the beloved Fourth Hokage as well as a member of the esteemed and respected Uzumaki family... who for generations have acted as the vessel for the fox to protect the people. This raises the question of why no one, including members of the Konohagure leadership who should know better, told the people who Naruto's parents were. The reason is Hand Waved as "because the Hokage's enemies would have targeted Naruto", but this still makes little sense because Naruto himself came very close multiple times to going down the same path as many of the series' villains due to the treatment he received. Further, every clan in Naruto has enemies, and if people knew who Naruto was, they would have more inclination to protect him. When Jiraiya is introduced, he becomes Naruto's mentor after Naruto manages to impress him enough to allow him to learn from him, implying Jiraiya had a vague idea of who Naruto was, but only just met him since he was away from the village for a long time. Later on it turns out Jiraiya not only knew Naruto's parents, but he was Naruto's godfather, and knew who Naruto was the whole time. Why he never came back to the village to take care of Naruto after the deaths of his parents, and try to help turn people's perception on Naruto around, is never explained, but it makes the father figure mentor Jiraiya was meant to be for Naruto look completely incomprehensible to anyone with the slightest degree of empathy, since Jiraiya basically abandoned Naruto. Initially, Itachi said he killed the Uchiha clan to test how strong he could become, and spared Sasuke because he was curious to see if his brother would follow in his footsteps, setting up Sasuke's desire for revenge and power. Years later after his death, it's revealed Itachi actually did all that because he learned his clan was going to stage a coup to overthrow the village, and killed all but Sasuke out of loyalty, then lied to convince Sasuke to one day kill him so he could be seen as a vilalge hero. The problem is that Itachi went out of his way to push Sasuke to want more power, which lead him to defect from the village and join Orochimaru, who Itachi knew wanted an Uchiha's body for Body Surf reasons. If his goal was to convince Sasuke to stay in the village and become a hero, it backfired because Sasuke learning the truth made him hate the village enough to want to destroy it in response. Even if he assumed Sasuke would never learn the truth, he directly encouraged and caused Sasuke to become a fugitive even before his death, making the supposedly genius Itachi who was trying to protect his brother and the village look dumb for not doing either right. It speaks volumes when Itachi himself admits to this mistake and has to entrust Sasuke to Naruto. Back when Naruto first interacted with the Nine-Tailed Fox within him, the latter gave him his Chakra despite his clear resentment at being imprisoned because it was originally stated that if Naruto dies, then the Fox dies as well. However late in Part II, it is revealed that the Tailed Beasts will revive some time after being killed and the Fox himself knows it. By the time the revelation is known, Kurama is already on the verge of genuinely caring about his host but given that he initially wants to be free and away from humans after being trapped for so long, it begs the question of why he'd even protect Naruto at all when simply letting him die would have allowed him to accomplish said goals far sooner than expected.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_3504b58e	comment	Mortal Kombat 11 reveals that Kronika has been the true villain all along, and that the various resets, reboots and retcons have all been her doing to undo the work of Raiden, who has continually been a thorn in her side, especially with the help of Liu Kang. Which means that only in this game did she get the idea to reset all of time back to the dawn of creation and remake the universe without Raiden in it. This is despite the fact that, in Mortal Kombat: Deception, both of them had been killed and she had the perfect opportunity at the time to reset everything without Kang or Raiden to stop her.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_3b34143f	comment	Harry Potter: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone involves Dumbledore being baited away from the school via "urgent letter" from the Ministry, and so is currently flying to London (presumably on a broom) when the climax goes down. But Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets shows us that wizards can go from fireplace to fireplace with Floo Powder, and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire shows us that they have almost free-form teleportation. If Dumbledore really got an "urgent letter", why is he using the slowest available travel method? Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban explains that Harry's parents were killed because the spell they used to hide their location needed a Secret-Keeper and that the man they entrusted to the role happened to be The Mole for Voldemort. Except that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows reveals that it is entirely possible to be your own Secret-Keeper, which is why the good guys' headquarters' location remained a secret for so long. Which really makes one wonders why the Potters didn't chose that option, since they knew they were being hunted.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_43576f5	comment	Supernatural: Season 6 involves Crowley trying to find Purgatory, desiring to take all of its souls to empower him, going to extreme lengths, including trying to capture the Alphas and angering Eve. Season 8, however, reveals that not only do Reapers have the power to go to Purgatory and Crowley has a corrupt one on his payroll, but there is backdoor from Purgatory into Hell (where Crowley is king of). Even if one assumes he didn't recruit him till later, it begs the question why he never simply kidnapped a reaper to interrogate them.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_4da11f30	comment	When the Emperor attacks Luke with Force lightning in Return of the Jedi, Luke is completely caught off guard and is unable to defend himself against it. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith show that Force lightning can be blocked either by a lightsaber, or — among advanced Force users such as Yoda — absorbed through the hand and deflected back to the attacker. Had Luke not tossed away his lightsaber, he could have deflected Palpatine's lightning for at least a little while. It's likely that he didn't know how to do so, or even that the power existed in the first place, which means that neither Obi-Wan nor Yoda bothered to teach him how to defend himself against Dark Side powers, making them seem like the true idiots. Yoda does warn Luke not to underestimate the Emperor, but doesn't clarify why nor give him any tips on how to do so.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_5bd0554b	comment	In the original Warcraft 3, Northend is portrayed as this frozen wasteland that no one has explored in ages, filled with all manners of monsters and undead, and it was where The Lich King had his seat of power. Except the Wrath of the Lich King expansion of World of Warcraft revealed that not far from where the Lich King had set his fortress laid Wyrmrest Accord, which is where the Aspects congregate. The Aspects have also been tasked by the Titans with protecting the world, and massively empowered so they could carry such a task, leaving the question as to why they hadn't done anything about the Lich King until more than a decade after his arrival.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_629cd094	comment	Dragon Age: Origins: At the start of the game, King Cailan has gathered an army to fight against the horde of Darkspawn that are signaling the start of another Blight. Though Cailan sees it as threat to stop, its also made clear he isn't taking it seriously enough and is wanting to win to obtain glory for stopping it here and now in one big battle, despite being advised by others not to. This leads to his death when his reinforcements flat out leave the battle. The Return to Ostagar DLC would later reveal he was pretty sure he couldn't win the battle, but did so anyway, which makes the brave but naÃ¯ve king look like an even bigger idiot for doing it anyway, when he could have done anything else to achieve results. So instead of pride and ambition causing his death, now its just him being an idiot and not bothering to plan anything else.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_6ab7b40a	comment	Tekken 7's retcons caused a few of these surrounding Heihachi. Heihachi originally threw Kazuya off a cliff to see if he was strong enough to inherit the Mishima Zaibatsu, and 7 retcons it and says that he only did so to confirm if Kazuya has the devil gene, but the game offers no explanation over why he didn't just kill Kazuya after confirming that he does have it. 7 has the Hachijos as the source of Devil Gene, and despite Heihachi getting some interest in the Devil Gene in 4 (And if Leo's Tag 2 ending is canon, he became interested in it even before 3), he seemingly never went after the Hachijos. Leo's ending from Tag 2 causes another one if the information it gives is canon, since it claims Heihachi was trying to create a synthetic Devil Gene since after 2, and while the experiment was a failure, once Jin showed up, Heihachi could always try to get his blood in some way but seemingly didn't. 7 can make that even worse, because if Heihachi got interested in doing experiments with the Devil Gene in 2 he could always get blood samples from his body before throwing him off a volcano, but seemingly, he didn't do it.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_6b1e9070	comment	PokÃ©mon the Series: Black & White: Giovanni orders the Team Rocket Trio to leave behind all their previous captures. Out-of-universe this is down to keep with PokÃ©mon Black and White, not having any PokÃ©mon from earlier gens in its Regional PokÃ©dex. While in-universe Giovanni wants the trio to remain covert, believing that PokÃ©mon not native to Unova would draw unwanted attention to their operations. PokÃ©mon Black 2 and White 2 would add several veteran PokÃ©mon to the Unova Regional Dex, the likes of which included Seviper, Yanmega, and Carnavine, PokÃ©mon that Jessie and James own. Even when discounting the games from the equation, a later episode would show a Team Plasma Grunt in possession of a Seviper, indicating at least that species is native to Unova even within the anime's continuity.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_6b85085e	comment	Mortal Kombat: Mortal Kombat 11 reveals that Kronika has been the true villain all along, and that the various resets, reboots and retcons have all been her doing to undo the work of Raiden, who has continually been a thorn in her side, especially with the help of Liu Kang. Which means that only in this game did she get the idea to reset all of time back to the dawn of creation and remake the universe without Raiden in it. This is despite the fact that, in Mortal Kombat: Deception, both of them had been killed and she had the perfect opportunity at the time to reset everything without Kang or Raiden to stop her. Mortal Kombat 9 establishes that while the Elder Gods don't care if Shao Kahn conquers other realms, they are very much against him trying to merge them without victory in Mortal Kombat, to the point that when Raiden realizes this and lets Shao Kahn win, the Elder Gods intervene and kill him on the spot. This fact renders the plot of Mortal Kombat 3 moot, as merging the two realms was Shao Kahn's entire goal, and the heroes could have Won by Doing Absolutely Nothing. This retcon also makes the Elder Gods themselves look idiotic; it's implied that the Mortal Kombat tournament and its rules were directly set up to thwart Shao Kahn's goal of merging all realms into his own, as merging realms carries the risk of reawakening the One Being and ending all life everywhere... which makes no sense when it's revealed that the Elder Gods can simply kill Shao Kahn any time they want, and that the invading forces in a Mortal Kombat tournament have complete control over the proceedings. This results in ridiculous deck-stacking like having all the Earthrealm fighters eliminate each other while the Outworlders merely wait, flat-out ignoring the results of a previous match and letting a loser rechallenge someone else, and even forcing one participant to face two opponents. Even worse is the blatant cheating; the entire premise of Mortal Kombat II and the second act of MK9 is Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn demanding a "double-or-nothing" tournament after Liu Kang's victory. The lack of any oversight or enforcement on the very rules they imposed to prevent this very thing from happening makes the Elder Gods look incompetent or at the very least lazy. MK11 retcons Sindel into being an Evil All Along Gold Digger who was murdered rather than having committed suicide. This has a major consequence as, earlier in the same game, Shao Kahn states that the only reason he let Kitana live as a child was to appease Sindel so she would become his queen and even created Kitana's clone Mileena to have a "true daughter." This makes no sense after The Reveal, because Sindel honestly couldn't care less about her daughter and was actively pleased to have a "superior lover" like Shao Kahn. He could have killed Kitana years ago and been done with it, and Sindel would have gladly given him more.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_6d10ab0b	comment	Mortal Kombat 9 establishes that while the Elder Gods don't care if Shao Kahn conquers other realms, they are very much against him trying to merge them without victory in Mortal Kombat, to the point that when Raiden realizes this and lets Shao Kahn win, the Elder Gods intervene and kill him on the spot. This fact renders the plot of Mortal Kombat 3 moot, as merging the two realms was Shao Kahn's entire goal, and the heroes could have Won by Doing Absolutely Nothing.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_73cdb697	comment	In Resident Evil, Rebecca Chambers is an inexperienced rookie who is clearly in over her head and can't function without Chris mentoring, reassuring, and protecting her, loses her nerve when cornered and cowers crying for help, and save for one moment of her making a mad dash to get medicine she is strictly a Support Party Member who sits out on any combat. Resident Evil 0 however, the prequel which stars her, depicts her as vastly more competent with her standing up to and cooperating with a convicted war criminal and serial killer, handling a myriad of heavy weapons, exploring an entire contaminated facility, killing a tyrant on her own, ultimately killing one of the Greater Scope Villains of the entire franchise, and finally deciding she didn't have enough and runs to the Spencer Mansion for more all in one night. Somewhere during her quick jog between these two games she lost an entire inventory of weapons and ammo, a stainless steel spine, about 100 IQ points, and all her confidence, because Resident Evil 0 Rebecca could have been the one mentoring Chris.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_76686539	comment	In Mass Effect, Sovereign decided to ally with the geth and the rogue Spectre Saren, acting in the shadows, in order to manipulate the Keepers of the Citadel into giving the other Reapers access to the Milky Way. Except that Mass Effect 2 reveals that there was an entire species of Slave Mooks he could have used to do so rather than going to the trouble of allying with Saren. Worse, the "Arrival" DLC also shows that the entire plan of opening a pathway into the Citadel wasn't needed, as its ending cutscene shows the Reapers arriving at the edge of the galaxy on their own. Which means that The Reapers could just come to the Milky Way via entirely normal means (sure, it takes them around three additional years to do so, but they wasted several decades relying on Saren already) rather than the risky plan they used in the first game. To make matters even more nonsensical, Mass Effect 3 reveals that rather than just being built by the Reapers, the Citadel itself is actually the A.I. that led and created the Reapers in the first place, which really brings the question as to why all this convoluted mess to take control of the Citadel was needed when it was already on their side to begin with.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_7988cb68	comment	Mass Effect: In Mass Effect, Sovereign decided to ally with the geth and the rogue Spectre Saren, acting in the shadows, in order to manipulate the Keepers of the Citadel into giving the other Reapers access to the Milky Way. Except that Mass Effect 2 reveals that there was an entire species of Slave Mooks he could have used to do so rather than going to the trouble of allying with Saren. Worse, the "Arrival" DLC also shows that the entire plan of opening a pathway into the Citadel wasn't needed, as its ending cutscene shows the Reapers arriving at the edge of the galaxy on their own. Which means that The Reapers could just come to the Milky Way via entirely normal means (sure, it takes them around three additional years to do so, but they wasted several decades relying on Saren already) rather than the risky plan they used in the first game. To make matters even more nonsensical, Mass Effect 3 reveals that rather than just being built by the Reapers, the Citadel itself is actually the A.I. that led and created the Reapers in the first place, which really brings the question as to why all this convoluted mess to take control of the Citadel was needed when it was already on their side to begin with. In the first two games, the Council refuse to accept that the Reapers are real, largely due to a combination of not having any hard evidence at first (in the first game), and the implications that would come from it being true. Though fairly dumb, there was at least some reasons to think the Reapers weren't a real threat given their status as closer to myths than being real. The third game then reveals that the Asari had a Prothean Beacon on their home planet that they kept secret from all but select high ranking Asari officials, which is why they became advanced quickly, and said Beacon contained an AI that was capable of communicating with the Asari and explain the Reaper threat. Not only does this make the Asari look incredibly dumb for not knowing the Reapers were a threat, but it also makes the Asari councilor, up until then portrayed as the Reasonable Authority Figure among them, look like a complete idiot for not revealing this as soon as it became clear that the Reapers were real. Both Shepard and Javik, the sole surviving Prothean, have a field day pointing out the sheer idiocy of this.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_87b652bb	comment	Starcraft II: In Starcraft II Wings Of Liberty the Queen of Blades, Kerrigan, is still resenting Arcturus Mengsk and wants him dead. Why didn't she kill him at the end of StarCraft: Brood War, when she had him in her hands (or rather claws)? Because back in the day she said that she preferred to be the "queen bitch of the universe" and watch Arcturus turn into a miserable man while all his dominion crumbles and his power evaporates in the shadow of the swarm. Then why did she allow him to regrow all his power and the Terran Dominion to return a force to be reckoned with? Starcraft II Legacy Of The Void shows that there are many hidden Protoss artifacts and facilities not only in space but on Aiur, which are introduced as powerful and important assets in the struggle against Amon, such as the massive mothership Spear of Adun. Then one could only wonder why none even hinted about using at least some of these weapons against the Zerg at the time of the first game, when the Overmind landed on Aiur threatening the survival of the Protoss species and infesting the world, even having to evacuate to Shakuras.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_8b7b9cd5	comment	At the beginning of A New Hope when Vader captures the Tantive IV Leia tells him she's just on a diplomatic mission. While he doesn't believe it, it's still not all that improbable in the context of just this movie. Then, Rogue One (which ends right before A New Hope begins), we find out that Vader followed Leia directly from the Battle of Scarif (in which she participated), making her claim Blatant Lies, and making her seem really dumb for thinking Vader would fall for it. Some fans prefer to think she was just being really audacious by blatantly lying to Vader's face, which would fit with her characterization.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_8c3bd0eb	comment	When Goku came back to life in the Saiyan Saga, he went with the Flying Nimbus towards the battlefield to save his friends. The beginning of the next arc would reveal Mister Popo has a magic carpet that is faster than the Nimbus (it teleports!), making one question why he didn't bring that up. Possibly making toast or something.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_8df52438	comment	Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero reveals that Shenron could release the hidden potential within Piccolo to the point where he is nearly as strong as Gohan after he had his own potential unlocked by the Elder kai. And it turns out Shenron could actually add on to this and give him an even greater form. While other threats had times that would have made this hard to use a wish on, Cell had just killed several cities worth of people and they didn't know Buu was a threat until after reviving those killed by Vegeta, this doesn't explain why they hadn't done it on other occasions or gone to New Namek for their dragon balls for a wish. This is especially noticeable during the Tournament of Power where any help would have been appreciated.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_8e8a801	comment	The Lion King: When Rafiki appears to tell Simba's friends that he's gone back to the Pride Lands, a confused Timon asks "Who's the monkey?". But in The Lion King 1 Â½, a P.O.V. Sequel, itâ€™s revealed that Timon actually met Rafiki much earlier in the narrative (as in before the original's narrative even started) and that in fact, Rafiki was the one who taught him the "Hakuna Matata" motto and ultimately inspired Timon's entire journey to the oasis. In the original movie, the scene where Simba sees Mufasa's ghost was not explicitly defined, but is easy to see as a hallucination on Simba's part representing his realization that he canâ€™t run away from his past and that he needs to set things right. This explains why Mufasa didn't just tell Simba the truth about what happened: Simba didn't know, so why would his vision? Indeed Mufasa doesn't tell Simba anything that he doesn't already know. The sequels made it so it was unambiguously the actual ghost of Mufasa who is fully capable of communicating with the living, which raises the obvious question of why Mufasa didn't tell Simba that it wasn't his fault that he died and that Scar was the one who really killed him, instead of just vaguely telling him to "Remember who you are."
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_8f8df73b	comment	In the original movie, the scene where Simba sees Mufasa's ghost was not explicitly defined, but is easy to see as a hallucination on Simba's part representing his realization that he canâ€™t run away from his past and that he needs to set things right. This explains why Mufasa didn't just tell Simba the truth about what happened: Simba didn't know, so why would his vision? Indeed Mufasa doesn't tell Simba anything that he doesn't already know. The sequels made it so it was unambiguously the actual ghost of Mufasa who is fully capable of communicating with the living, which raises the obvious question of why Mufasa didn't tell Simba that it wasn't his fault that he died and that Scar was the one who really killed him, instead of just vaguely telling him to "Remember who you are."
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_960062b7	comment	My Hero Academia: When Izuku first receives One For All from All Might, his body naturally has a lot of difficulty adjusting to suddenly having a powerful Quirk, leading to him repeatedly breaking his bones while attempting to use it properly. It's eventually revealed that Toshinori, like Izuku, used to be Quirkless as well, and secretly used a variety of support equipment while his body was getting accustomed to it. Naturally, this begs the question of why Toshinori never considered looking into any support equipment for his successor until after Izuku sustained injuries serious enough to risk permanently rendering his arms unusable. This pretty much piles on the fact that Toshinori may not be the best teacher for Deku if he forgot an important detail like that. The story pretty much confirms this, once Gran Torino takes over Deku's training.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_9dab421d	comment	In the original Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl the crew of the Black Pearl had been cursed into undeath upon stealing the treasure of CortÃ©s. They were actually informed that some sort of curse existed but dismissed it on the basis that, as Barbossa concurs with Elizabeth when she hears about it and doesn't believe it, they "hardly believe in ghost stories." Likewise, their former captain Jack Sparrow, whom they mutinied against and so avoided being cursed, upon seeing the cursed crew, comments "So there is a curse...", suggesting that he didn't believe it either. Nothing in the original movie suggests this is an unusual train of thought. The sequels go on to explain that by this point Jack had already met Davy Jones and both Jack and Barbossa are Pirate Lords who know the goddess Calypso was bound in human form by their predecessors, amongst other supernatural things that seem to be common knowledge amongst pirates. So it's a little weird that the crew would suddenly decide the curse isn't real and commit mutiny against Jack Sparrow to get the treasure.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_a0112f3d	comment	Tekken: Tekken 7's retcons caused a few of these surrounding Heihachi. Heihachi originally threw Kazuya off a cliff to see if he was strong enough to inherit the Mishima Zaibatsu, and 7 retcons it and says that he only did so to confirm if Kazuya has the devil gene, but the game offers no explanation over why he didn't just kill Kazuya after confirming that he does have it. 7 has the Hachijos as the source of Devil Gene, and despite Heihachi getting some interest in the Devil Gene in 4 (And if Leo's Tag 2 ending is canon, he became interested in it even before 3), he seemingly never went after the Hachijos. Leo's ending from Tag 2 causes another one if the information it gives is canon, since it claims Heihachi was trying to create a synthetic Devil Gene since after 2, and while the experiment was a failure, once Jin showed up, Heihachi could always try to get his blood in some way but seemingly didn't. 7 can make that even worse, because if Heihachi got interested in doing experiments with the Devil Gene in 2 he could always get blood samples from his body before throwing him off a volcano, but seemingly, he didn't do it. Zafina's profile from 7 mentions she's making contact with the Archers of Sirius to hunt down Jin and Kazuya, something she could've done in Tekken 6 itself since she both wanted to stop them, and Azazel if he was freed.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_a183d57f	comment	Futurama: The crux of "The Late Philip J. Fry" is that Professor Farnsworth built a time machine, but it can only go forward in time and not backward. The whole episode is spent traveling further and further into the future until someone invents a way to travel into the past. Two seasons later, in "I Know What You Did Next Xmas", Farnsworth adds a manual transmission and a reverse gear (two parts found in the earliest automobiles), and then the time machine can go backward too.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_a9517b88	comment	God of War, Zeus asking Kratos to find the Pandora Box in order to defeat Ares gets hit with this twice in the sequels. First, the Pandora Box was initially said to be the only weapon able to kill a god but then God Of War 2 has Zeus' sword being able to do it as well. Therefore, he could have just give it to Kratos and spares the champion a long and perilous quest. God of War III exacerbates the issue by revealing that Zeus created the box to contain the primordial evils and after Kratos opened it for the first time, they were released and started to infect the gods. Why Zeus asked Kratos to open the box just to kill one god who only threatened one city is never addressed and only makes him a bigger idiot.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_ac7f7a0b	comment	When Rafiki appears to tell Simba's friends that he's gone back to the Pride Lands, a confused Timon asks "Who's the monkey?". But in The Lion King 1 Â½, a P.O.V. Sequel, itâ€™s revealed that Timon actually met Rafiki much earlier in the narrative (as in before the original's narrative even started) and that in fact, Rafiki was the one who taught him the "Hakuna Matata" motto and ultimately inspired Timon's entire journey to the oasis.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_b2b8158	comment	In the early parts of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable, the main Arc Villain is Keicho Nijimura, a guy whose father has been horribly disfigured and in constant pain, but also rendered basically immortal. He wants to find someone with the power to Mercy Kill his dad, and he's obtained a supernatural arrow that allows him to grant anyone a random power—however, the arrow is extremely likely to kill a person if they aren't strong enough to develop one. To accomplish this, he shoots the arrow at random people throughout the town, in the hopes that one of them will win the Superpower Russian Roulette, killing a number of people and turning a number of others into early Monster of the Week threats. This is a terrible plan, for sure, and it ultimately leads to his death, but it makes sense from the perspective of an increasingly desperate guy with lacking moral fiber. However, later on, a different villain named Yoshihiro Kira reveals that someone using the arrow can sense when a person has the potential to survive and develop powers. So either Keicho really didn't bother to experiment with the arrow, despite having it for years, or he was dumb enough to shoot people despite knowing there was no chance they'd develop powers.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_ba99af9c	comment	In Saw IV, The Reveal is that Mark Hoffman, one of the detectives involved in the Jigsaw case, is actually working for Jigsaw, and the next film explains why; the man who killed Hoffman's sister got Off on a Technicality, so Hoffman killed the man by copycatting one of Jigsaw's killings, then got recruited by the real Jigsaw who was easily able to track him down because, without the serial-killer connection, Hoffman is the obvious suspect in the killing. But then why was Hoffman allowed anywhere near the Jigsaw case if there was such a massive conflict of interest that was easily found out? Hell, why wasn't Hoffman a prime suspect for being Jigsaw or one of his accomplices from the start? The seventh film makes this even worse by revealing Hoffman had a history of Police Brutality, which would lend itself well to Jigsaw's Knight Templar MO.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_bff01809	comment	Through all but the very last edition of Warhammer, the story of the Dark Elves and their leader Malekith was more or less the same: Malekith wanted to become Phoenix King like his father, but was deemed too ambitious to deserve it, and when he tried to force the issue (by assassinating the previous king and jumping into the Flames of Asuryan) he got horrifically burned and was rejected by the gods, which lead to him and his followers starting a bloody civil war, splitting from their kin to become the Dark Elves and starting the millennia-long conflict between them and the High Elves. And then the End Times revealed that Malekith had actually been worthy all along but had jumped from the Flames a few seconds too soon and all the next Phoenix Kings had been usurpers and cursed by the gods. Why the actual gods themselves (at least two of which have living avatars in the world, but all of whom can communicate with mortals to various extents) never bothered telling anyone at the moment or at any point during the thousands of years in-between was never explained, nor was how the long line of supposed "cursed" High Elven kings managed to reign more or less adequately throughout the millenia.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_c18d15ca	comment	Starcraft II Legacy Of The Void shows that there are many hidden Protoss artifacts and facilities not only in space but on Aiur, which are introduced as powerful and important assets in the struggle against Amon, such as the massive mothership Spear of Adun. Then one could only wonder why none even hinted about using at least some of these weapons against the Zerg at the time of the first game, when the Overmind landed on Aiur threatening the survival of the Protoss species and infesting the world, even having to evacuate to Shakuras.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_c6ebe632	comment	In Two Letters, Marinette entrusts Lila with the Ladybug Miraculous as part of a revenge scheme against all of Paris, banking on threats to make sure she isn't betrayed. While it works out there, the Recursive Fanfiction Face The Truth turns it into one of these; not only does Lila still hate Marinette with a passion, but she has no problem with using her new powers to destroy her reputation, leading to Marinette's downfall.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_cf3e7a82	comment	Superman: When Superman was first created, little about his home planet of Krypton was known other than the fact that its technology and genetics were far more advanced than our own, and that the planet died suddenly without giving its people enough time to evacuate. As Superman gained more New Powers as the Plot Demands and new details about Krypton were introduced, it was suddenly revealed that most (if not all) of the entire Kryptonian population were not only aware that they gained godlike Combo Platter Powers on planets with comparatively lower gravity, thinner atmospheres and yellow suns like Earth, but that the entire reason Jor-El sent his son to Earth was so that he could enjoy these benefits. In turn, this made the entire Kryptonian species look like morons for staying put on one small planet where they were basically Muggles until the moment it blew up. Later retcons then established that Kryptonians had once formed a powerful empire that attempted to conquer and colonize other planets, but somehow failed at it and were forced to retreat back to Krypton. But yet again, this backfired as readers began to wonder how a space-faring race with the potential to become Flying Bricks ever managed to screw up that badly. There was a retcon that explained all that, albeit one only introduced after the Crisis cosmically retconned Krypton's entire history: A Kryptonian mad scientist released a toxin that permanently rewrote the entire population's genetics so that leaving the planet for any length of time was lethal. Jor-El managed to edit Kal-El's genetic code in his birthing matrix to remove it. That was seemingly abandoned in favor of the "repentant ex-conquerors" explanation, post-New 52.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_d5ddd6c1	comment	PokÃ©mon: The Series: PokÃ©mon: The Original Series: Thanks to Early-Installment Weirdness, nearly every character in the first season, regardless of their status, would act as if there were only 150 PokÃ©mon known to exist, as was the case in in the first generation of PokÃ©mon games.note While there were in actuality 151 PokÃ©mon introduced in Generation I, within the games and anime Mewtwo is a top-secret project that few know the existence of. Bill's hypothesis that there could be more than 150 PokÃ©mon is treated as an absurd theory with little evidence, and Togepi gets treated as a newly discovered species. However as time passed the franchise expanded vastly, to the point there are now over 1,000 PokÃ©mon spread across multiple regions, with their existence being common knowledge. Several flashbacks in later shows would ignore the idea that any character thought there was only ever 150 PokÃ©mon and give them substantial interactions with species introduced in later generations. For example, despite James once being flummoxed by the existence of Togepi, PokÃ©mon the Series: Diamond and Pearl would reveal he's owned a Carnavine (a species not introduced until Generation IV) since childhood. PokÃ©mon the Series: Black & White: Giovanni orders the Team Rocket Trio to leave behind all their previous captures. Out-of-universe this is down to keep with PokÃ©mon Black and White, not having any PokÃ©mon from earlier gens in its Regional PokÃ©dex. While in-universe Giovanni wants the trio to remain covert, believing that PokÃ©mon not native to Unova would draw unwanted attention to their operations. PokÃ©mon Black 2 and White 2 would add several veteran PokÃ©mon to the Unova Regional Dex, the likes of which included Seviper, Yanmega, and Carnavine, PokÃ©mon that Jessie and James own. Even when discounting the games from the equation, a later episode would show a Team Plasma Grunt in possession of a Seviper, indicating at least that species is native to Unova even within the anime's continuity.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_d7eaa0d3	comment	In Starcraft II Wings Of Liberty the Queen of Blades, Kerrigan, is still resenting Arcturus Mengsk and wants him dead. Why didn't she kill him at the end of StarCraft: Brood War, when she had him in her hands (or rather claws)? Because back in the day she said that she preferred to be the "queen bitch of the universe" and watch Arcturus turn into a miserable man while all his dominion crumbles and his power evaporates in the shadow of the swarm. Then why did she allow him to regrow all his power and the Terran Dominion to return a force to be reckoned with?
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_dccfc4b8	comment	Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban explains that Harry's parents were killed because the spell they used to hide their location needed a Secret-Keeper and that the man they entrusted to the role happened to be The Mole for Voldemort. Except that Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows reveals that it is entirely possible to be your own Secret-Keeper, which is why the good guys' headquarters' location remained a secret for so long. Which really makes one wonders why the Potters didn't chose that option, since they knew they were being hunted.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_de6659ec	comment	Once Upon a Time: Rumplestiltskin goes through the trouble of creating the Dark Curse, which requires, among other things, sacrificing the thing you love the most, and spends years grooming someone to be evil enough to cast it, all so he can follow his son to the Land Without Magic. Later seasons reveal that there are any number of MacGuffins he could have acquired that would have allowed him to freely traverse realms. Multiple characters are motivated and deeply affected by the death of a loved one. Early seasons reiterate that death is the one thing magic can't fix. Both Rumplestiltskin and Regina start down the path of evil after seeing a loved one die. Halfway through Season 5, we learn that the Underworld exists and you can go there and rescue dead loved ones, and the characters have apparently just known this the whole time. Then again, Hades will try to stop all hopefuls by sabotaging the rescue effort and it's doubtful Zeus would let anyone pass multiple times.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_e1d2de13	comment	Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth - Hacker's Memory: The game is a midquel that is supposed to take place during the original Cyber Sleuth and has many instances of the protagonists interacting closely with many main characters of the main game. For the first half of the game it remains somewhat plausible since the protagonists operate in separate fields. However, after Arcadiamon is awakened there is absolutely no excuse for all the main characters of Cyber Sleuth to not mention this top tier monster threat at all, especially when it starts killing Digimon (which both Nokia and most of the Royal Knights would be actively working to prevent). Somewhat less obvious is the takeover of Eden by the Eater Network even later as this is not mentioned or applied late game to the original game.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_ec28245c	comment	Dragon Ball Z: When Goku came back to life in the Saiyan Saga, he went with the Flying Nimbus towards the battlefield to save his friends. The beginning of the next arc would reveal Mister Popo has a magic carpet that is faster than the Nimbus (it teleports!), making one question why he didn't bring that up. Possibly making toast or something. A Dub-Induced Plot Hole example: After his training with King Kai is complete, Goku is forced to run all the way back down Snake Way in order to reach the Otherworld check-in station, and thus return to Earth. Later, during the Cell Saga, Goku asks for King Kai's help in locating the Namekians' new home, stating that he will use his Instant Transmission technique (which he learned from the Yardrat race in the interim) to go there and recruit a new Guardian of Earth. King Kai then reveals that he knows the same technique. This of course raises the question of why King Kai couldn't have used that technique to bring Goku straight to the check-in station himself. Both times that the heroes were given advanced warning of a dangerous new foe coming to fight them (the Saiyans and Androids), they used the chance to train and get as strong as they could within the time limit they had. After being defeated by Android's 17 and 18, and Cell is introduced, Goku reveals the existence of Hyperbolic Time Chamber on Kami's Lookout, which allows the people inside to get a whole year's worth of training in a day. This makes the years of intense training in prior arcs look dumb in retrospect, since they could have just gone into the Time Chamber, trained for a bit inside, and emerge more powerful, especially considering the whole Year Inside, Hour Outside aspect means they can still train the same outside of it, meaning they effectively get an additional year with no downsides. The only somewhat justified reason they couldn't use it (the limit on the amount of time you can spend in it, and the atmospheric conditions) aren't presented as serious enough in the original manga to justify why the humans don't use it nor why it wasn't used sooner, especially when Goku also states it's where he trained with Kami during the timeskip near the end of the original ''Dragon Ball' story, which means that Goku as a kid could go in, but the human characters somehow can't, despite being more powerful at the start of Z than Goku is when he would have gone in as a kid. Also related to the Time Chamber: In Z, it was stated one could only use it twice in their life, as if they stayed past the 48 hour limit, they would be trapped inside forever. This was important because it meant characters had to be mindful of when they needed to use it, since they could only do so twice before being locked out forever. Super would reveal that the room can be adjusted to basically ensure someone can reuse it as many times as they want. Why this was not done before Super is not revealed, but it makes the heroes look like idiots for not adjusting it sooner, since they could have done so against Cell or other foes to get even stronger with no downsides. During the Majin Buu Saga, Vegeta lets himself be corrupted by Babidi's "Majin" spell in order to force a fight against Goku. In response, Goku fights Vegeta in a prolonged battle using his full power, the same Super Saiyan 2 form that Gohan used during his fight with Cell. Not long after though, Majin Buu is released due to the energy generated by said fight, Gohan is thought to have been killed by Buu, Vegeta is dead after a failed sacrifice to kill Buu, and Goku needs to stall Buu, so he confronts Buu and reveals Super Saiyan 3. Not only does this make him hiding this look silly, it also makes him fighting Vegeta look even dumber; Super Saiyan 3 not only would have been strong enough to defeat Vegeta, but he likely could have defeated Buu with said form if he had done so. The only justification Goku has is that it burns through his ki at a frightening rate (it's only viable when he's dead in Other World) and he might need it later, but it makes him doing so seem like an idiot, since he could have used it to defeat Vegeta, then go and try to and help stop Buu. Vegeta later calls him out on hiding it when he is temporarily revived. In Dragon Ball Z: Cooler's Revenge, Cooler sends his three squad members to hunt down Goku, Gohan, and Krillin, who are able to avoid detection by hiding their powers and laying low. When Gohan slips ups and gets found, Piccolo saves him from Cooler's men, only being beaten when Cooler attacks him before Piccolo can finish off the last of his men. The next film, Dragon Ball Z: The Return of Cooler, reveals Cooler knows Instant Transmission, meaning he could have easily stopped Gohan the second he sensed his power by teleporting to him, or saved his men by teleporting as soon as Piccolo appeared and stop him, making the normally pragmatic Cool look dumb for not doing so. Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero reveals that Shenron could release the hidden potential within Piccolo to the point where he is nearly as strong as Gohan after he had his own potential unlocked by the Elder kai. And it turns out Shenron could actually add on to this and give him an even greater form. While other threats had times that would have made this hard to use a wish on, Cell had just killed several cities worth of people and they didn't know Buu was a threat until after reviving those killed by Vegeta, this doesn't explain why they hadn't done it on other occasions or gone to New Namek for their dragon balls for a wish. This is especially noticeable during the Tournament of Power where any help would have been appreciated.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_ecd2d797	comment	In the first Baldur's Gate Imoen is the seemingly normal childhood friend of the main character, who becomes involved in the story when she sneaks out of Candlekeep to help after finding a letter meant for Gorion that drives her to join the player character. Baldur's Gate II then reveals that Imoen was a Bhaalspawn all along, which retroactively makes Gorion look like an idiot, because he basically let another Bhaalspawn roam Candlekeep with no care or worry unlike the player character. If she truly was one the entire time, one would think he'd have given her more attention by him, instead of having the town's innkeeper raise her instead. In doing so, it lead to more problems down the road when it was discovered she was one all along.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_ef9ba9b4	comment	The prequels raise the question of why Obi-Wan thought it was safe to raise Luke on Vader's homeworld in the care of Vader's only known relative, his step-brother, and have Luke keep his last name. Revenge of the Sith lessened it somewhat by explaining that Vader did not know PadmÃ© had given birth before dying (and so wouldn't know to look for children of his), and the Obi-Wan Kenobi series lessens the idiocy further by explaining that Obi-Wan didn't know Vader survived the events on Mustafar until a decade later.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_f0c816fb	comment	Breaking Bad: The Season 5 opener has Mike forced to discard his plans to kill Walter and Jesse to get revenge for them killing Gus and burning down the Meth Lab, instead, he enters Enemy Mine with them upon learning that the DEA has obtained custody of Gusâ€™s laptop, which contains extensive security footage of all three of them. Their plan to destroy the laptop works, but the end of the episode reveals that Gus's laptop was encrypted and the police couldnâ€™t crack its code, making it useless as evidence. The prequel show Better Call Saul has Mike work extensively with Gus on establishing the security measures of Gus' drug empire, meaning Mike shouldâ€™ve known full well that the laptop would be useless to the DEA. Perhaps a Downplayed Trope given Mike's firm stance against taking half-measures. Itâ€™s possible Mike knew the laptop was encrypted, but wasnâ€™t willing to risk the chance that the DEA could crack the device.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_f4a1d45b	comment	There was a retcon that explained all that, albeit one only introduced after the Crisis cosmically retconned Krypton's entire history: A Kryptonian mad scientist released a toxin that permanently rewrote the entire population's genetics so that leaving the planet for any length of time was lethal. Jor-El managed to edit Kal-El's genetic code in his birthing matrix to remove it. That was seemingly abandoned in favor of the "repentant ex-conquerors" explanation, post-New 52.
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Retroactive Idiot Ball / int_f81101f2	comment	PokÃ©mon: The Original Series: Thanks to Early-Installment Weirdness, nearly every character in the first season, regardless of their status, would act as if there were only 150 PokÃ©mon known to exist, as was the case in in the first generation of PokÃ©mon games.note While there were in actuality 151 PokÃ©mon introduced in Generation I, within the games and anime Mewtwo is a top-secret project that few know the existence of. Bill's hypothesis that there could be more than 150 PokÃ©mon is treated as an absurd theory with little evidence, and Togepi gets treated as a newly discovered species. However as time passed the franchise expanded vastly, to the point there are now over 1,000 PokÃ©mon spread across multiple regions, with their existence being common knowledge. Several flashbacks in later shows would ignore the idea that any character thought there was only ever 150 PokÃ©mon and give them substantial interactions with species introduced in later generations. For example, despite James once being flummoxed by the existence of Togepi, PokÃ©mon the Series: Diamond and Pearl would reveal he's owned a Carnavine (a species not introduced until Generation IV) since childhood.
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