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Scotland, Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland condensed into the same place. The Loch Ness Monster, Leprechauns, bagpipes, shamrocks, threatening people with shillelaghsnote pronounced "shuh-lay-lee" and meaning "blunt instrument"; see Irish Names for more help with the peculiarities of Irish pronunciation, and note that it will be little help for names in Scots Gaelic, which is a separate (though related) language., potatoes, haggis, plaid (actual plaid, or tartan), kilts, clans, castles, caber tossing, and a lot of angry drunk redheaded people. This is the only other part of the British Isles that's not London. In fact, the Republic of Ireland isn't politically part of Britain, but if Hollywood can't get geography right then politics don't stand a chance. Wales sometimes gets lumped in as well, the few times it's featured outside of UK media. This trope is probably helped by the fact that Ireland and Scotland are, to much of the world, the two main "Celtic" nations. Not to be confused with the American ethnic term 'Scots-Irish', many of whom have more English than Scottish ancestry. It's worth noting the Irish and Scots have a long history of cultural connections. The Scots are partly descended from the Scoti, a tribe of Irish Gaels who settled in Scotland in the early Middle Ages, and to this day Irish (Gaeilge), Scottish Gaelic (GÃ idhlig) and Manx (Gaelg) are considered mutually intelligible languages. Also, a good chunk of the Northern Irish population is descended from Scottish "planters" (who were, however, mainly non-Gaelic speaking lowland Scots). And plenty of Irish people moved to Scotland, particularly Glasgow, in the nineteenth century. So, the trope is somewhat rooted in fact, albeit much more loosely than their frequent conflation in American media would seem to imply. Also known as "The Celtic Confusion," the prevalence of this trope in US media is probably because some Americans find Irish and Scottish accents difficult to distinguish from one another. It's also not helped by the fact that while most Americans can identify shamrocks, leprechauns, and the color green as being stereotypically "Irish" while bagpipes, tartans, and the Loch Ness Monster are stereotypically "Scottish," St. Patrick's day parades and other Irish festivals sometimes feature people wearing kilts and playing Highland bagpipes rather than the Irish uilleann pipes. This trope is scarce in Canadian media, however, as the Irish and the Scots are seen as completely distinct nationalities. It's said that the longer an Irishman lives in Canada the more Canadian he gets, but the longer a Scotsman lives in Canada the more Scots he gets. Some Scotsmen have lived in Canada for so long that their accent has become completely indecipherable.note Scotty from Star Trek, a Scotsman played by a Canadian, may be a special case. The same applies to Europe, where the differences between the two are also more widely understood. And, of course, it's a Dead Horse Trope within the UK and Republic of Ireland because kids learn in school pretty early on that they're distinct neighbours. Compare Britain Is Only England, Norse by Norsewest, Spexico, Ancient Grome, and Mayincatec. See also Violent Glaswegian, Fighting Irish, Oireland, Bonnie Scotland. Oddly, Scottish actors and actresses have a disproportionate tendency to be cast as Irish characters. Whether this is a side effect of this trope or whether it actually helps enforce it is anyone's guess. |
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Miner Smurf of The Smurfs is mentioned as having either an Irish or a Scottish accent, which isn't helped by the fact that his voice actor would also do Scrooge McDuck. | |
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Digimon: In the English dub of Digimon Tamers, Ebonwumon (Xuanwumon), one of the four Digimon Sovereign, who has two heads, speaks with a Scottish Accent with one head and an Irish accent with the other head. | |
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Wolfsbane from X-Men is supposed to be Scottish, but her accent and culture switch back and forth between Irish and Scottish. Moira McTaggart has this same problem, to the point that her accent is often indistinguishable from that of her Irish boyfriend Banshee. | |
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25th Hour and The Departed are particularly bad as both feature Irish-American storylines yet include rousing renditions of "Scotland the Brave". The Departed features Scottish, English, and American actors playing Irish-American cops and gangsters with Mark Wahlberg being the only one with Irish ancestry. | |
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Lampshaded in Heroes, when Elle goes into a pub in Ireland: | |
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Highlander frequently features Scottish characters (played, in the main, by Canadians) with horrendous Oirish accents. Grayson (or perhaps just his actor) tops it all by managing to fail so hard at a Scottish accent he does a perfect Irish one instead when mocking Duncan. | |
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In Supernatural Crowley was a Scottish human named Gavin MacLeod before he was an English demon (it gets worse), and the other demons call him Lucky the Leprechaun behind his back. | |
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Super Paper Mario: O'Chunks speaks with a Scottish accent, but his name begins with "O'", an Irish prefix. | |
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Lancre in Discworld is Scotnorthernengland. It's mostly based on Lancashire, but the first book to feature it heavily is a Macbeth parody, reference is made in a couple of books to the Lancastrian bagpipes, and Lancre Blue cheese in the Tiffany Aching books is the Discworld counterpart of Lanark Blue. As of Carpe Jugulum, it's also home to a sizable colony of Nac Mac Feegle. | |
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The Spoils of Babylon and its sequel The Spoils Before Dying reference a Bland-Name Product of alcoholic beverage called "Bagpipes O'Toole." | |
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Pokémon Sword and Shield: The main plot of the Scotland-themed Crown Tundra expansion revolves around reuniting the region's ancient king with his mystical steed, which he can only control through the aid of a bridle woven with strands of the steed's hair. This is pulled directly from a myth about Brian Boru, a legendary High King of Ireland. | |
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Calebernia, one of the fictional nations from Crimestrikers, invokes this trope down to its Portmanteau name (a combination of Caledonia and Hibernia). | |
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In Finding Forrester, at the end Forrester (Sean Connery) tells his young friend Jamal that he's going back to his homeland. | |
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In Irregular Webcomic!, Steve says he took snakes to Scotland because they don't have any. The Scottish authorities tell him that's Ireland, and he thinks it's the same thing. They get their own back by calling him a New Zealander. | |
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Star Wars: The Clone Wars presents us with the Lurmen, a race of ScotIrish sentient lemurs whose Actual Pacifist sentiments are rather a Shout-Out to the Irish peace process. | |
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Valkyria Chronicles features a recruitable sniper with the very Irish name Catherine O'Hara. While it's never stated that she's from the game's alternate universe versions of Ireland or Scotland, her accent veers dramatically between the two whenever she speaks. | |
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As shown in "Jaw$!", proud Scotsman Scrooge McDuck from DuckTales (2017) absolutely hates this trope, as shown when he goes into a rage both times he's asked (by people very deliberately trying to push his buttons) "What part of Ireland are you from?"note Scrooge actually is half-Irish on his mother's side, but that's besides the point. | |
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The Celts in the Civilization games are (as the name implies) an amalgamation of various Celtic cultures, but in the fifth game they embrace this trope further by shedding the Gauls from the equation and focusing on the British Isles (and Brittany), being led by a Welsh-speaking Boudicca with Edinburgh as their capital and Dublin as their second city. Averted in Civilization VI, where the "Celts" are gone, but both the Scots and the Gauls appear as playable nations (lead, respectively, by Robert the Bruce and Ambiorix). Cardiff and Armagh both appear as NPC city-states. |
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PAYDAY 2 has an interesting relationship with this trope. The original voice actress for Clover was Scottish; that being Rhona Cameron. This was changed after her reveal so that her voice was provided by actual Irishwoman instead; Aoife Duffin. Another character, Bonnie, was then created for Rhona to voice, who is Scottish, and turned them into an Expy of Big Boo from Orange Is the New Black for good measure. | |
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Sons of Anarchy: Chibs is referred to as a Scot and played by Scottish actor Tommy Flanagan, but apparently was raised in Belfast, with longtime IRA ties. This would be less jarring if Flanagan had even a hint of a Northern Irish accent, but he plays Chibs with his thick-as-mud Glaswegian tones on full blast. | |
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Home Movies: Coach John McGuirk is Irish, but he's a Scottish highland dancer instead of an Irish dancer because he's "not gay." | |
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Diabetus and slowbeef have no idea whether the person doing a Let's Play of Resident Evil 4 here is Scottish or Irish, so they split the difference. | |
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The Celtic civilization in Age of Empires II is a case of this. Units speak Irish and the Celtic wonder is Ireland's Rock of Cashel, but their unique unit is the Woad Raider (a unit based on the Picts of Ancient Scotland) and their civilization bonuses in siege, fast infantry, and wood gathering are inspired by Medieval Scotland. Finally, the playable Celtic campaign deals with William Wallace's rebellion. | |
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Moira O'Deorain from Overwatch has a Scottish given name, but comes from Ireland and speaks in something that sounds vaguely like a Dublin accent (maybe the developers were worried players wouldn't know how to pronounce Máire?). For good measure, her surname can't decide whether it's being Anglicised or not (presuming it's her maiden name, it would be Nà Dheorain in Irish or something like O'Durran in English). | |
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Inverted in Legally Blonde: The Musical, in the song "Ireland." Paulette dreams of meeting an Irish man and living in Ireland and confuses Scottish and Irish culture, which Elle (and the audience) find funny. Particularly funny with the London West End version. At one time Elle was portrayed by an Irish actress, future Celtic Woman Susan McFadden. | |
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Fallout 4 has Cait, a supposedly Irish woman voiced by a Scottish voice actress. | |
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In Smallville, a gang prepares to rob Lex Luthor as their final heist because their ability to phase through solid objects is fading. One of the crooks makes a crack about how they'd be able to build a money silo like "that Irish duck" and is corrected (since Scrooge is in fact Scottish) by one of the other crooks with a surprisingly good rendition of both accents. | |
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1983: Doomsday has Ireland merge with Scotland after the collapse of the United Kingdom, creating the Celtic Alliance. | |
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In an episode of Seinfeld, Jerry and George end up sharing a limousine with a couple of Neo-Nazis. Jerry pretends to be Irish, reminiscing about things such as "the peat, ah, the peat". However, his accent comes across as Scottish to one of the Nazis, to which Jerry replies, "We were living around the border." Jerry's attempt ends with him saying, "Scotland, Ireland? What's the difference, lassie?" | |
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Phineas and Ferb went ahead and made a character who was half-Scottish, half-Irish, presumably in an attempt to avert this trope, or perhaps a parody. His accent shifts depending on which stereotype he's embracing at the moment. | |
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Star Trek: Even in Star Trek: The Original Series, Scotty's accent tends to wander not just through every region of Scotland, but across the Irish Sea too. Lampshaded by several Scottish stand-up comedians over the years who always joke about wondering which part of Ireland Scotty was from. This was apparently due to Executive Meddling; James Doohan actually could do several regional Scottish accents, but it was feared that they would be incomprehensible to American audiences. In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Sub Rosa", Dr. Crusher attends the funeral of her grandmother on a planet that's supposed to be settled by Space Scots, but their accents are hardly Scottish. Amusingly, one of the lead guest stars was actually Irish.note Perhaps somewhat justified by the show's setting...by the 2460s, and 300 years after United Earth was founded, there would have been 400 more years of cultural exchange between various nations than there is now. |
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In the G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra movie, the Scottish villain has programmed his missile to respond to commands in "Celtic." There are several languages belonging to the Celtic family of languages, including Irish, Scots Gaelic, Cornish, Manx, and others, but no single "Celtic" tongue. | |
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The PanCelts in The Tough Guide to Fantasyland are a mix of the Welsh, Scots, Irish and probably Manx and Gaulish, with place names like Dun Blaioinaidbth (pronounced Dublin), Glas Uedhaoth (pronounced Glasgow) and Caer Dibdh (pronounciation not given, but presumably Cardiff). | |
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In Knights of the Dinner Table, B.A. Felton sometimes uses a character named "Red Gurdy Pickens" in his campaigns. The character is sometimes described as being Irish, but the accent B.A. uses has been noted as sounding far closer to Scottish... | |
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In one episode of Lost, Sawyer refers to Desmond as 'the magic leprechaun', even though Desmond is actually Scottish. | |
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A 1983 SCTV sketch featured Dave Thomas as an angry Scottish cooking-show host, using the same catchphrase as the Myers SNL sketch ("If it's not Scottish, it's crap!"). | |
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In The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel, when Sophie first meets Scáthach the Shadow she initially can't tell if her accent is Irish or Scottish. She eventually decides on Irish, which is correct. The series is written by Michael Scott, who is also Irish.note Although in Irish mythology, Scáthach and her sister Aoife are actually Scottish. | |
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Kim Possible has Duff Killigan, who is Scottish in every way - save for his very Irish surname. | |
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Ondine: Selkie is the Scottish name for mythical creatures the Irish usually call merrows. Even so, the Irish characters all use "selkie" for Ondine, and "merrow" is only mentioned. Alex, who is Scottish, lampshades this. | |
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The introduction of the Merida face character at the Disney Theme Parks sparked a minor controversy when many of the actresses couldn't get the accent right and sounded more Irish than Scottish. | |
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Even in Star Trek: The Original Series, Scotty's accent tends to wander not just through every region of Scotland, but across the Irish Sea too. Lampshaded by several Scottish stand-up comedians over the years who always joke about wondering which part of Ireland Scotty was from. This was apparently due to Executive Meddling; James Doohan actually could do several regional Scottish accents, but it was feared that they would be incomprehensible to American audiences. | |
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In The Elder Scrolls series, the Daedric Prince Sheogorath typically speaks with an Irish accent when calm and a Scottish accent when excited. Further, he's voiced by an American doing an impression of Scottish comedian Billy Connolly. Weirdly fitting, as he is the Mad God, after all... | |
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Dead Like Me takes it up a notch by mixing in all but Wales; when they're reaping the soul of an Irishman living in America, he sees heaven as a vision of his home: an image of the Cliffs of Moher, which he refers to as the (English) "Cliffs of Dover", with the sound of Scottish bagpipes playing "Scotland the Brave". | |
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A more extreme meta example involving Sean Connery has him starring as one of the main characters in Darby O'Gill and the Little People; a movie set in 1800s Ireland, while almost all the other major members of the cast are Irish (with the only other exception being Janet Munro, from Useful Notes/England). Justified, as Connery himself was known to have had close Irish heritage. | |
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Forlorn in the Ravenloft setting is a mountainous, rainy realm that has a language based on Gaelic, was once part of a country that also included the Western Highlands, and even has a Stock Ness Monster. On the other hand, some of the proper names, such as the darklord Tristem ApBlanc and the mountains Arawn and Mathonwy, sound more like the UK's other mountainous, rainy realm, making Forlorn one of the few examples of Scotwales. | |
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Happens in Rhapsodies with Kate getting the two mixed up on purpose to troll the very Irish Rowan. | |
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Similarly, in Bioshock 1, the very Irish Voice with an Internet Connection Atlas mentions his wife Moira and son Patrick. If the goal was to imply that she too was Irish, the writers failed. Or more accurately, the very much not Irish conman Frank Fontaine did. Not to mention that he stole the names from the title of an in-universe play and somehow no one noticed. | |
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Spoofed in a series of early-'90s Saturday Night Live sketches, in which Mike Myers is the foul-tempered proprietor of a shop called All Things Scottish ("If it's not Scottish, it's crap!"). Hapless customers would frequently make the mistake of asking for shillelaghs and whatnot, leading to Myers exploding, pointing to a map ("There's Scotland! There's Ireland! And there's the bloody Irish Sea!") and ordering them to Get Out!. This skit and character were later incorporated into Myers' movie So I Married an Axe Murderer as the protagonist's father. | |
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In a meta sense, The Untouchables (1987) does this; Sean Connery plays an Irish cop using his real accent, and it's never addressed. This is, however, rather common for Connery. | |
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Disco Elysium: Ubi Sunt? (question mark required) is a really weird mashup of "things near England that aren't England": it's near Vesper-Messina (the UK equivalent), moves about often (like the old Irish myth of Hybrasil), is frowned on as dirt-poor (the Irish), warlike (the Scots), obsessed with farming (the Welsh), and a perchance for rebellious Communism (the Irish again). The one Ubi Suntian? you meet has a Welsh-ish accent and happily talks about orphanages (an indelible part of Irish history). | |
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For one game on Impractical Jokers, Murr wears a kilt and introduces himself as "Seamus O'Murray" from "McDublin, O'Ireland", with an accent that can't decide which of the British Isles it's from. | |
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Time Team: A discussed trope in the episode "Heroes Hill" on a dig at Knock Dhu in Northern Ireland. They point out that Scotland is actually visible on the horizon, the two headlands are only separated by about fifteen miles of sea, and that many Iron and Bronze Age Kingdoms had territory in both and probably didn't see any difference, or primacy, of each lands. | |
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Team Fortress 2's first issue of "Ring of Fired!" reveals the Scottish Demoman's full name is Tavish Finnegan DeGroot. While Tavish is definitely Scottish, Finnegan is decidedly Irish and "DeGroot" is originally a Dutch surname. And have we mentioned he's black? There's a number of perfectly reasonable explanations for all of this, but his family history is one long Noodle Incident. | |
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In an episode of Black Books some American tourists refer to Bernard, (who is Irish) as a "Scotchman." | |
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Braveheart uses Uileann bagpipes rather than Scottish bagpipes for Malcolm Wallace's funeral scene because Mel Gibson thought they sounded better. | |
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Miner Smurf of Empath: The Luckiest Smurf is literally a Scotirish Smurf, being born the brother of Duncan McSmurf but adopting "Smurfin' Begorrà " (the Smurfing version of "faith and begorrà ") as his common catchphrase. | |
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Silver Banshee from Superman is literally from Scotireland; when the writers realised they'd based a Scottish character on Irish mythology, they claimed Siobhan McDougal was actually from a fictional island in the Straits of Moyle. Surprisingly, the New 52 version of Silver Banshee drops the Scottish connection entirely and retcons Siobhan as coming from Dublin. | |
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The Gaelic Nations from Thera is a cultural chop suey of every single Celtic trope you can imagine. Scottish Highlanders with giant swords, Welsh archers, chanting Druids, Irish javelinmen, screaming fanatics who fight butt-naked with only magical sigils in blue woad to protect them, you can go on. | |
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Numbuh 86 from Codename: Kids Next Door is meant to be Irish, but her accent sounds more Scottish. | |
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Half Moon Investigations was written by Irishman Eoin Colfer and set in that country. The TV adaptation was made in Scotland. | |
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Once Upon a Time Season 5's crossover with Brave featured rather a lot of Irish actors playing the characters from DunBroch, a Fantasy Counterpart Culture of Scotland. They did, however, affect Scottish accents. | |
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In Bowser's Kingdom episode 7, Hal and a Chomp Bro. fight in an event called "Shell Wrestling." Hal states that if he can beat a gorilla wearing a tie (Donkey Kong), then he can take down a German Turtle. The Chomp Bro. then reveals he's Austrian and punches Hal off the stage. This example could be called Germaustria in this case. | |
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In The Crying Game Northern Irish terrorist Fergus initially tells Londoner Dil that he is Scottish, and Dil appears to believe him. Possibly justified in that London has a wide variety of accents and Dil, being young and perhaps inexperienced, might not have known the difference. It should also be mentioned that the Northern Irish accent is very similar to the Scottish Highland accent due to the two sharing similar dialects of Gaelic. | |
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In Girls with Slingshots, McPedro's accent is supposed to be Irish, but he speaks stereotypical Scottish. Later, he refers to his accent as "Scirish." | |
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Sabrina the Teenage Witch has an episode where Mr Pool - who has Scottish heritage - wears a kilt for Scottish Pride Day. Harvey asks if he can do a jig, and gets an annoyed "that's a cheesy Irish dance" in response. Then Mr Pool performs the Highland Fling for the class. | |
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Parodied in Toonstruck: The bartender in Cutopia is a head of green cheese, shaped like a shamrock, wearing a tam o'shanter and a kilt, whose accent alternates between Irish and Scottish every other line. Yes, that's right; he's half Irish, half Scottish. It's that kind of game. | |
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A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints has a Scottish teen moving to the area, and it's a Running Gag that the others frequently mistake him for Irish. It's possibly a nod to the actual guy he's based on being Irish in real life.note The character was changed to Scottish because the producer saw Martin Compston in another film and lobbied for him to be cast. | |
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In the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode "Sub Rosa", Dr. Crusher attends the funeral of her grandmother on a planet that's supposed to be settled by Space Scots, but their accents are hardly Scottish. Amusingly, one of the lead guest stars was actually Irish.note Perhaps somewhat justified by the show's setting...by the 2460s, and 300 years after United Earth was founded, there would have been 400 more years of cultural exchange between various nations than there is now. | |
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In the Weebl's Stuff video Scotch Egg, when a map of Scotland is displayed, underneath the text saying "SCOTLAND", there is a caption in small text reading "This is where the Irish come from. Tell your friends." | |
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