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Second Place Is for Winners

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Second Place Is for Winners	comment	A character enters a contest where the nominal first prize isn't actually their preferred one, so they'd be happier winning second place or maybe doing even worse. This can take several forms: The character doesn't know beforehand what the prizes are, or only knows what first prize is. This generally leads to a Twist Ending where they try their best at the contest, are disappointed to learn they didn't win, and then overjoyed to learn that they got what they wanted anyway. For example, if first prize is money which the character wants in order to buy X, then second prize will turn out to be X. The character does know beforehand what the prizes are, resulting in a nonâ€“video game version of Do Well, But Not Perfect. For added hilarity, they might win anyway despite trying to come in second. The character is a rookie having his or her first shot at the big-time, and would have no realistic chance of winning this soon (despite what most sports movies would have you believe). The fact that he or she manages to place at all is considered a victory. Similarly, the character is in some other way disadvantaged compared to the competition, so doing well enough to place is still a huge accomplishment.note In Real Life, this variation can also play out if the first-place winner is exceptional even compared to other top competitors to the point where unless they have a massively off day, they're all but guaranteed to win (e.g. Usain Bolt on the track, Simone Biles in gymnastics), but this is extremely rare in fiction because having a virtually unbeatable competitor (other than as a setup for the protagonist to defeat them for a shocking victory) doesn't make for a good story. The structure of a competition is such that not finishing first now will give the character an advantage in finishing first at a later event or portion of the event. A variation of this is when the runner-up is remembered more than the actual winner. This often happens in sports and reality shows (see The Runner-Up Takes It All). In real life, some contests avert this by allowing winners to choose a prize out of all the prizes the people who placed below them could get, or just making every prize include all the lower-place prizes. Compare The Runner-Up Takes It All and Deliberate Under-Performance. Compare and contrast Second Prize, when a character was expecting a different outcome in a competition. Contrast Second Place Is for Losers. See also Disqualification-Induced Victory and Victorious Loser. As this is a Victory/Defeat Trope, unmarked spoilers abound. Beware.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_17d98318	comment	In Silver Linings Playbook, Pat and Tiffany enter a dance competition. Tiffany is a good dancer but not professional caliber, and Pat has never done anything like this before at all, he's just doing it because he owes Tiffany a favor. Them winning the competition is unimaginable, but Pat's father bets a large amount of money on their getting an average score of 5 or better out of 10. That's exactly what they get. When their family and friends go absolutely nuts, the judges and other contestants and fans are baffled at anyone being so thrilled by such a low score.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_1861f45b	comment	In 2021, an old prizing list for a 2011 Starcraft tournament began making the rounds across the internet. The prizing was pretty respectable - $500 for first place, going down to $100 for a fourth-place finish. The fifth through eighth place finishes? 25 Bitcoin each. At the time, 25BTC was valued at around $50. In the years leading up to it, a single BTC could be cashed out for upwards of $25,000. Even sadder, one of the runner-ups apparently never claimed their winnings.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_1a8d488a	comment	In Munchkin, it is somewhat common for games to play out like this. When the player in the lead is close to winning, the other players will gang up on the leader to prevent him/her from winning. Once everyone has used all their cards and abilities to prevent the strongest player from winning, the second strongest player usually has an easier shot at victory. This can also sometimes have elements of a Kingmaker Scenario or Do Well, But Not Perfect.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_1d699932	comment	The episode of Black Jack where they first meet the future Team Pet, Largo. A normally rather lazy dog, Largo displays surprising bursts of prescience, often causing trouble that unexpectedly draws people away from dangerous areas. When Pinoco realizes this, she decides to try and profit from it, having Largo pick a number for a Lottery for her, hoping to win the First Prize - a romantic holiday on a southern island, just perfect for her and her 'husband', Black Jack. Instead, they win a lesser prize — several pounds of Steak. Over a steak dinner, she complains to Black Jack that Largo apparently isn't psychic after all, but he corrects her: to Largo, a pallet of delicious meat is simply far more valuable than some vacation he probably wouldn't get to go on anyway.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_2477688c	comment	One The Baby-Sitters Club book had the sitters helping their charges prepare for a beauty pageant. First prize was a savings bond and the chance to compete in another pageant. Second prize was a shopping spree at a local toy store. Unsurprisingly, the 6-to-10-year-old girls that the BSC members were helping all massively prefer the second prize. As the eventual second place winner explains to all the adults who are indignant about the fact that she didn't win, "But then [if I had won] I wouldn't get any toys!"
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_25f3f2d1	comment	There's an episode of The Vicar of Dibley where the titular Vicar is trying to win second place in a contest put on by a chocolate manufacturer. First prize is a trip to Disneyland, second is a year's supply of chocolate. The entry she sent in wins first place anyway, much to her disappointment.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_25feb9b7	comment	Angela Anaconda: Angela wasn't interested at all in the school's relay race until one of her friends found a clue suggesting the first prize had the initials "MB" and they assumed it meant "Mapperson's Bakery" and the winning team would eat for free there. Originally, Angela's team won, but Nanette conned her way into doing a do-over, where her team won. However, karma came back to bite her as the first prize turned out to be watching slides from Mrs Brinks' vacation trip. Being a Teacher's Pet, Nanette couldn't refuse. The consolation prize turned out to be what they thought the first prize would be.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_261c8d3f	comment	In The Simpsons, Lisa is asked to take a dive in a prestigious spelling contest in exchange for a Seven Sisters college scholarship of her choice during the events of the episode "I'm Spelling As Fast As I Can". Lisa declares her refusal to do so in front of the entire audience, so when she does genuinely misspell a word, she ends up with nothing. The citizens of Springfield don't care, however, since Lisa became the town's biggest winner it could ever have. She even gets a monument on a mountain. In another episode, "Lisa's Substitute", Bart runs against Martin Prince in the Class President election. Bart loses and is dejected at first, until Homer cheers him up, telling him that all he would have gained was just the title, and extra responsibilities.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_27777760	comment	In Eureka, Zoe wins second prize in the Tesla High science fair. She is far happier with the second prize—a car—than she would be with the first prize—an internship at Global Dynamics. On the other hand, the prizes weren't announced until the winners were, so it's entirely possible that Zoe won a car because Stark knew she wouldn't want the internship...
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_2bfd4893	comment	In Real Steel, robots Atom and Zeus fight for the champion's title. Atom beats Zeus heavily by the end, but Zeus is saved by the bell and wins by points. But the very fact that a custom-built robot can beat a corporate killer machine so badly is a slap in the face of Zeus's masters. Furthermore, nobody was betting over the outcome of the fight; the biggest bet of the game was over whether Atom would survive one round against the monster.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_2fe9f4b2	comment	Some bases in Smash Up award more points for second-highest power than for highest power when the base breaks.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_30001f71	comment	In Demons of the Deep, if you hire the fencing instructor Cyrano and beat him in a spar, he'll acknowledge that you're a master of the sword but even a swordmaster will learn something from him and you'll get an excellent prize of +1 to your Initial Skill. However if you lose against him, you'll actually learn a lot more and you get an even better +2 to your Initial Skill. So do your best to lose against him.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_30a5ebfd	comment	Used by Shikamaru Nara in Naruto during the Chunin exam finals. Up against Temari, he starts off struggling to keep up with her brute force until he finally gets the upper hand. And then decides to throw in the towel, much to all of the exam participants' disappointment. However, the team leaders note this actually shows off Shikamaru's tactical skill in that he knows when to quit, rather than continue on in vain. Note that it had been made clear beforehand that passing the exam was not dependent on winning the tournament. That Shikamaru managed to fight well enough, yet had the levelheadedness to concede when he reached his limits, led to him being the only one who actually passed the exam anyway. Though with the tournament being interrupted in the midst of the final match of the opening round by the Sound-Sand invasion of Konoha, it's impossible to know whether anybody else would've been able to impress the examiners enough for promotion. Since there's no limit on the number that can earn the promotion from Genin to Chunin, this wouldn't have changed anything for Shikamaru, but it's likely that at least some other people would've been promoted too.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_31c31084	comment	An episode of The Weekenders has this, although it's not immediately obvious, and only Bluke realized it with his Simpleminded Wisdom. The game in question was a scavenger hunt played by teams of five. First prize was a pool table, second prize was a pizza. When the team consisting of Bluke and the four main characters get second place, the main four are disappointed, but Bluke isn't, and says that the pizza is actually the better prize out of the two. Why? Because a pizza can be easily shared between five people, but a pool table can't. We then see the winning team arguing bitterly about which one of them gets to keep the pool table in their house and how they're going to divide up its use between them.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_32422cb3	comment	In Magnum, P.I., Magnum is excited to win second prize in a "create a slogan for our product" contest: a trip to Disney World in Florida. When the grand-prize winner is disqualified for plagiarism, Magnum gets the grand prize instead: a trip to Hawaii. Since Magnum already lives in Hawaii, he's less than overjoyed.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_37a6e77b	comment	Camp Lazlo: Edward wins a race, but finds that Lazlo's Middle Place trophy is bigger and fancier than his First Place trophy. The ending shows that Chip and Skip's Last Place trophy is shiny, golden, and big enough to bathe in. He even lampshades that it makes no sense that the losers get better trophies than the winner.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_3aeb1c75	comment	Dragon Ball uses this once or twice. When Krillin faces Piccolo Jr. in the final tournament, he manages to withstand the No-Holds-Barred Beatdown much longer than expected. When he finally declares "I give up", Piccolo's Unsportsmanlike Gloating turns to confusion and anger when the crowd starts cheering for Krillin. Turns out Piccolo was impressed by Krillin, so much that he used his full power for a few seconds. After noticing that Krillin isn't the strongest by any means, Piccolo thinks conquering Earth might not be as easy as planned. Of course also used with Goku himself during the first two tournaments, which he notably lost by the end, but still managed to do so well that everyone was proud of his efforts. Additionally, after the first tournament, Goku lost but still ultimately got to use the prize money, as he was so exhausted from fighting that he ate everything at a restaurant during the group's celebratory dinner. The bill was so high that Roshi had to pay with all his winnings he won in disguise.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_3f41fbc7	comment	At the end of Princess Nine the girls' baseball team loses to the boys' team from their same school, in the playoff game that was right before Koshien. They're not all that upset about it, considering they pulled together nine people in a matter of weeks and made it that far when most of the administration was saying that they were a disaster waiting to happen.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_43a79959	comment	During Mayucchi's route in Majikoi! Love Me Seriously! she enters a race following instructions from Yamato so that they can win some autographs from a reclusive manga artist. The mayor announces beforehand that first place will win a very special prize. Racing against her are the likes of Azumi sponsored by Hideo Kuki, and right before Mayucchi crosses the finish line Azumi barely manages to get ahead of her and steal first place. Hideo starts gloating, but Yamato laughs instead: Hideo normally doesn't participate in town events, so he doesn't know that the mayor is a narcissist who gives out statues of himself as top prizes. Yamato had no intention of taking first place at all and goes home with the autographs.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_455e3038	comment	King of the Hill: When Hank and Bobby enter a father-son shooting contest together, they wind up taking second place. Hank is initially disappointed and expecting Bobby to feel the same way, but is happy to find out Bobby is pleased with coming in second on their first try. Bobby enters a rose-growing competition and quickly has the project hijacked because of his dad's hyper-competitive nature. When their arguing costs them first place, Hank is still proud enough of Bobby's roses to plant them in front of the house. Hank and Bobby end up competing against each other in a dog dancing contest. Bobby and Connie's dog, Doggy, take home second place, while Hank and Ladybird don't win anything. Bobby is ecstatic upon placing second regardless of whether or not he beat Hank. One episode has Luanne get into boxing after being objectified by her sexist male students, and ultimately goes on to want to box Freeda Foreman. Naturally she gets the abject crap kicked out of her and loses the match, but she lasts three rounds which had the entire audience cheering for her and earned her the respect of everyone, including her students. Hank and his friends all compete against each other in a lawnmower race. Boomhauer ends up winning, Bill crashes his mower right at the starting line, and Dale and Hank place 6th and 7th respectively. Dale is ecstatic to place in 6th because as he put it, beating Hank is "better than winning."
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_46518682	comment	Sesame Street: A segment called "The Remembering Game" (a parody of the long-running game show Concentration) featured Cookie Monster and an Anything Muppet playing the game. Cookie wins the grand prize of an airplane, while the Anything Muppet gets the booby prize... a cookie! When the Anything Muppet is offended and Cookie disappointed, the two trade prizes. Apparently, it was allowed.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_468bebb0	comment	The Discworld short story "The Sea and Little Fishes" reveals that Nanny Ogg quite likes coming in second in competitions because people buy her lots of drinks to cheer her up, and also she thinks that "well done, you almost win" is better sounding than anyone saying "you nearly lost that one" as they do to those who come first in close competition.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_478a5b61	comment	Marry Me (2022) ends with Lou Gilbert making it to the finals of a major school math contest. While she loses in the final round because she gave the answer literally as the buzzer went off after overcoming her stage fright, her father Charlie assures her that he's proud of her overcoming her fears and getting the question right (and the contest also saw the return of Lou's new stepmother to her and Charlie's life).
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_47abde9	comment	On Dan for Mayor, Dan enters the race for mayor of Wessex in order to show his ex-girlfriend that he is not a complete loser. By election day they got back together and are planning to move to Vancouver where she is was offered a great new job. The main candidate is way ahead of him in polls and Dan's main concern is to beat out Wheelo (a clown) for second place. The main candidate drops out in the last moment and Dan wins
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_49a87cb3	comment	In Final Fantasy VII, the first prize (100+ points) for doing the drill exercises correctly in front of Rufus and Heidegger in Junon is a weapon for Cloud called "Force Stealer", and the second prize (60-90 points, inclusive) is a "HP Plus" Independent Materia. Savvy players may intentionally aim for the minigame's second place because the Force Stealer can be bought for 2,200 Gil soon after in North Corel, whereas you will need to wait until reaching Cosmo Canyon to buy HP Plus for 8,000 Gil. Also, HP Plus needs tons of AP to level up, so it helps getting it in Junon to start grinding for it earlier on.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_4a1af3cb	comment	The Â¡Mucha Lucha! episode "Getting Ahead" had Rikochet getting his head shrunken so his decreased center of gravity would allow him to win a wrestling tournament with the prize of an El Rey luchador mask. At the last second, the prize is replaced with a year's supply of donuts and the mask becomes the runner-up prize. He tries and fails to throw the finals against Potato Potata Jr., but they later switch prizes anyway.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_4a3ea111	comment	In Boys over Flowers, Tsukushi enters a fashion contest where (due to nepotism) the 1st place winner has been preordained. She wins second place, but since that was the highest spot that hadn't been "reserved," it effectively makes her the winner of the contest.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_4ed5b58b	comment	In Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist, losing a Duel provides a consolation reward... equal to about a third of what you'd get for winning a Duel. And starting a Duel and immediately surrendering is a lot faster than playing it to completion. This means the easiest way to grind out resources is to surrender immediately.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_53a0bd32	comment	In The Twilight Zone (1959) episode "A Game of Pool", Jesse Cardiff, a bitter pool player tired of being overshadowed by the memory of late legendary pool player Fats Brown is offered the chance to become a legend himself when Fats Brown returns from the afterlife to answer his challenge. Jesse defeats Fats and becomes the new pool legend. What great reward does Jesse get in the end? Spending eternity defending his pool title until he loses. The original story (and remake of the episode) defies this trope, however: Cardiff loses the match and Brown makes it clear before disappearing that Cardiff's destiny is to become a forgotten has-been. So no matter what, Cardiff just can't win.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_55f94533	comment	Party Crashers: The entire premise of "Mario Party but SECOND Wins", as they compete for who can end the game in 2nd place rather than 1st place. Discussed in their Mario Kart 64 video, where the others decide that getting 2nd place is the real victory due to how good Brent is at the game. In "This Mario Party CPU lost me $100" and "we bet money on Mario Party CPUs", despite placing in 2nd place on both videos, Nick still ended up gaining the most amount of money with $150, as he gained $50 in the former and $100 in the latter. In comparison, Sophist only made $100, as he lost $100 in the former but made $200 in the latter, Vernias didn't make any profit whatsoever, as he made $100 in the former but lost $100 in the latter, and Brent lost a whopping $250, as he lost $50 in the former and $200 in the latter.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_5b530444	comment	Mario Party 9: This happens during a "Reverse Mini-Game" in a Bowser Event. You play a standard mini-game, but the objective is to lose as quickly as possible instead of trying to play the normal way. The first person to lose the game will win. In the case of the minigame Chain Event, you have to "win" by being the last player to touch the bottom after going down through the chain, so in this case you have to drag yourself for as long as possible.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_672fbe3	comment	Inferno Cop enters the America Grand Prix hoping for the prize money obtained by placing 1st. He places second, only to learn that the runner-up gets the same amount of money as the winner.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_683c3c76	comment	In Billy vs. SNAKEMAN, this is the fundamental basis of the party game First Loser. Every participant bets a random amount of money, and the ones getting into first place (the number changes from game to game) get the highly coveted... kunai. Meanwhile, the one ending up just below the "winners" get the consolation prize, either a rare permanent item or a large stack of otherwise coveted items (unidentified runes, sugary candy, treasure, etc). The ones getting in after that get their money refunded (minus a 5% cost).
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_71825b20	comment	Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines: Orvil is about to win the race when he sees that Count Ponticelli's plane has caught fire and so performs a daring mid-air rescue. Richard wins, but is so impressed that he offers to split the prize money with Orvil. Dubois ends up coming in third place, but he still receives a hero's welcome from his fellow French.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_73d7930f	comment	Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: In the episode "Take Me Out to the Holosuite," the DS9 crew play baseball against an all-Vulcan team. As Vulcans are physically superior to the species on Sisko's team, and his team is also much less experienced, there's no realistic way for them to win. And for the first eight innings, they're completely scoreless against the dominating Vulcans. However, the worst player on the team, Rom, accidentally manages to get a bunt which lets one of their players score in the ninth inning. The Niners end the game right there, considering it a victory for their team and hailing Rom as a hero. The Vulcan captain's annoyance with this display only makes their "victory" sweeter.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_74677280	comment	Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games features missions that require the player to place in a specific position. The easy ones are placing first or last. You could be asked to finish in second or third, which requires watching the competitors closely and screwing up inputs to keep in pace with them.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_746814ae	comment	In one episode of Arthur, Arthur enters a riddle-themed quiz show after playing along at home and realising how good he is. The current reigning champion has been on the show for months, and just as Arthur is about to give the winning answer in the final round, he realises that he's good enough to keep winning and potentially get stuck doing the show forever. He lets his opponent win, happily takes the consolation prize (a year's supply of chocolate from the show's sponsors), and is given a hero's welcome by his classmates.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_762df2bc	comment	Similar to the Kung Fu Panda example above, there's an episode of Dragons: Riders of Berk where Hiccup deliberately comes in second, because his father is proud of his efforts, while Snotlout's father blames him for even allowing anyone else to score as much as one point.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_76ca1d83	comment	Something like this is part of the premise of Blue Mountain State. The main character Alex Moran is the team's second string quarterback, and he wouldn't have it any other way. He gets all the fame and benefits of being on a high-ranking team, but doesn't have to do any of the work. It winds up being subverted in the third season when Alex becomes the starting QB and finds that being the starter on a winning team, while requiring more work, is ultimately more rewarding. After being suspended from the national championship, he tries to drink his sorrows away only to find he doesn't enjoy it as much as before because he's "had the taste of winning".
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_7832b74c	comment	Steven Universe: In "Back to the Barn", professional engineer Peridot and self-taught Pearl get into an argument over who should lead a drill construction project. To settle things they have a contest between two robots they built, which eventually devolves into a straight up fight. Even though Pearl ultimately loses, she demonstrates her engineering talents to the other Crystal Gems, who already believed in her, and to Peridot, who eventually acknowledges Pearl's abilities and agrees to work side by side with her. In "Beach City Drift", once Stevonnie decides to race Kevin for fun instead of trying to teach Kevin a lesson, they don't mind coming in second, since they did pretty well for their first time driving a car.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_7c63d7e	comment	The game The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (basically "who can tell the best bullshit story in the style of the movie") is presented as something the Baron invented and is now explaining. Near the end, he mentions a session whose winners got the cushier bedrooms while spending the weekend at their host's manor, and deliberately shooting for something like fourth place so he could sneak out and chat up one of the daughters later.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_7c6f5e19	comment	In the Red Green movie Duct Tape Forever, in order to pay off a $10,000 fine, Harold suggests the lodge enter a duct tape sculpture contest to win the money. The lodge members are skeptical, but when Harold tells them the $10,000 is the third-place prize, they figure it's within their abilities.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_82439e64	comment	In The Office (US), the company is bought out by a rival and the CEO decides that Michael and Jim being co-managers is a stupid idea. She will leave one as manager and demote the other back to salesman. Jim finds out that the new company does not have a commission cap for its salesmen, so if he gets demoted he can make way more money than the manager. Since he hates being a manager, he tries to make sure that Michael will get the job. However, Michael finds this out and decides that he wants the demotion as well. Hilarity ensues until Michael realizes that he prefers the extra status over the money.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_86814cd2	comment	In Final Fantasy IX one participates in the traditional Hunt in Lindblum. If your protagonist wins, the prize is simply Gil (money). However, if he doesn't win and instead Freya wins, one gets a Coral Ring, an excellent accessory at the point of the game where you have few accessories and none quite as good as it. One has to make sure Freya is not KO'ed oh well one gets the third place prize, a card in the card game that few players care to play and has little value in the main game.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_869bc454	comment	Snowball Express: Despite being a novice snowmobile rider, Johnny enters the snowmobile race, not expecting to win but hoping he can come in second or third and still get a cash prize. He almost ends up coming in first, but then he gets turned around at the finish line and comes in last by a huge margin.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_8c87469c	comment	The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword: There is a Boss Rush challenge pitting you against all bosses you've fought up to the point by which you unlock it (excluding Levias for technical reasons, but including a Multi-Mook Melee sequence from the endgame in case it was unlocked prior) in the main storyline, which you can quit after defeating any of them. Quitting after winning 4 boss battles nets the player a Piece of Heart, while quitting after winning 8 nets the player the classic Hylian Shield, which is unbreakable (it averts the Breakable Weapons trope, unlike the other shields) and thus the best prize in that minigame, and much more valuable than whichever prize you get afterwards, including the 9900 Rupees you get in the New Game Plus for winning all 11 battles plus the Horde sequence in-between (though you can just go through the challenge again with your new shield and get that, too).
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_8d81f086	comment	In one episode of Monk, a man enters a children's contest in a town fest and deliberately wins second place. It turns out that he had murdered a woman that day and there was a high risk the crucial piece of evidence got accidentally put in a pie that was the prize.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_94bfa327	comment	In an episode of The Dreamstone, there is a contest among the villain army with free sandwiches to win... but immediately after two guys win, the sergeant reveals the free sandwiches were actually the second prize. The first prize is being press-ganged into the new mission.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_97882232	comment	Happens twice in Rush (2013), once for Niki Lauda and once for James Hunt. In Lauda's case, finishing fourth just six weeks after his near-fatal crash. In Hunt's case finishing 3rd in the Japanese Grand Prix earns him enough points to win the World Championship over Lauda (with a margin of one point). And again with regards to Niki: he may have gotten second to James, but he was alive to try again. He tells Marlene he has no regrets.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_987ae286	comment	Happens to Lightning McQueen at the end of Cars. In this case, however, Lightning sabotages his own win. He was well ahead and could easily have dropped the chequered flag, but seems to have chosen not to win a race in which the reigning champ had been unfairly taken out. So it ends with Chick in first, The King in second, and Lightning in third. The King has his dignity restored, Lightning is praised for his sportsmanship, and Chick's victory is rendered meaningless because no one is going to sponsor someone so publicly amoral and unsportsmanlike.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9992c8b0	comment	There's an episode of the Dennis the Menace 1980s cartoon where Mr. Wilson enters a contest for a vacation. He wins first prize, but the vacation package is second prize. First prize is... a pet goose or duck.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_99e0099	comment	In one of the Jennings books, Jennings enters bowling competition at the village fete, for which the first prize is a live pig. He has no intention nor expectation of winning, since there's a local man named Clive who always scores at least fifty — he just wants to impress Darbishire. Unfortunately, Clive never shows up....
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9a0cb5f4	comment	Bob's Burgers: The subplot of "Boyz 4 Now" has Gene entering a table-setting competition and ending up coming in 4th place thanks to a rather...tactless theme cobbled together out of desperation. Gene, Bob, and Linda are still happy about his placement, since it's apparently the highest any of the Belcher kids have ever placed in anything. It helps that the father and the son they were specifically competing against (though mainly the obnoxious dad, who was forcing his kid to do this and is pathetically sobbing after the loss) didn't place at all. In "Best Burger", Bob enters a burger-off against a well-respected professional chef. (And Jimmy Pesto, but he doesn't know anything about burgers and comes in dead last.) Bob lost by a narrow margin, but he earned the respect of the professional chef and the judges' praise of his burger resulted in many members of the crowd coming to his restaurant. In "Paraders of the Lost Float", the family enters a float into a parade in hopes that, with only four other floats competing, they would win the $500 prize for fifth place. In "The Hurt Soccer" Louise's soccer team is overjoyed to score a single point against a superior team at their final game (which allows the game to continue), as they've had nothing but shutout games their entire season. In "Live and Let Fly" Bob and Linda join a paper airplane competition at an airshow so they can win the grand prize: a new washing machine. They decided Linda is the best at throwing the planes and Bob is the best at designing them. Linda however pulls a shoulder muscle during the contest so Bob has to do it. He ends up overshooting and missing the washing machine, but it lands in a blender which they're equally ecstatic about winning. In "Motor, She Boat" Tina comes in second place in the Thunder Girls' annual father/daughter boat-making contest. Considering how every previous year her and Bob's boat sunk and Tina came in dead last, she and Bob are overjoyed to not only even place but to get second.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9a7088bc	comment	In the Star Trek: The Original Series novel, The Vulcan Academy Murders, there is a flashback to a coming of age cross country race trial which Vulcan youths are expected to complete within a certain time limit. When Spock sees a rival trapped and in trouble, he abandons the race to help him, but can't get any of the other runners passing by to stop and help as well. Eventually, a rescue crew arrives to get Spock and his rival to safety, leaving them in dead last. However, the race's judges declare that of all the kids involved in this incident during the race, only Spock passed because he showed proper maturity to stop to help a competitor in distress while the others displayed a poor choice of priorities. A similar scenario happened in an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation during Wesley's timed exam to enter Starfleet Academy. He took time out to help another candidate, but was pointedly not penalized for doing so.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9ad446cd	comment	The last book in The Great Brain series features a spelling bee. The winner gets a new bicycle. The title character and his love interest are the finalists. He could easily win, but chooses to maintain a tie by deliberately misspelling words as necessary. By postponing a resolution he forces the adults to call a draw and give both of them the bikes (they had to have a boy's bike and a girl's bike available). And since he didn't beat his girl, she doesn't hate him, either.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9b530c26	comment	In Archie Comics, a bicycle race is held in Riverdale, with first prize being some extravagant vacation and second prize being a year's worth of hamburgers. Jughead, naturally, wants second prize and has to walk a delicate balance to keep a second-place position. Finally, the finish line is in sight, and Jughead is right behind Reggie, the frontrunner. But Reggie thinks Jughead is trying to overtake him and tries to force him off the road. This slows them down enough that Big Ethel slips past them to win the race. Jug laments that after all his careful work to place second he ended up in third place, but then Reggie is disqualified for his misconduct, and Jughead receives the prize he wanted all along. Betty congratulates Ethel, saying it takes hard work and dedication to win first prize. Jughead, devouring hamburgers, says, "You think that's hard? Try winning second prize sometime!"
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9f1766e4	comment	The Brady Bunch: In "The Winner," where Bobby desperately tries to win at something, anything, he tries his hand at selling magazines to his brothers and sisters. The friend who gives him the idea waves off first prize as "some kind of scholarship", but is excited about second prize - a dirt bike.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_9fcc7efd	comment	Whip It: "We're Number Two! We're Number Two!"
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_a796bde8	comment	In Metal Gear Solid, your reward for toughing out the torture, coming out on top, and rescuing Meryl earns you The Bandana, a Bragging Rights Reward at best that gives you unlimited ammo in a game where you will never, ever, want for ammunition. Your reward for wussing out, letting her die, and getting the bad ending? Otacon's Stealth Camouflage, an item that renders you wholly invisible in a Stealth-Based Game. That said, you're free to get both endings and then do a third playthrough with both items and a sharp tuxedo instead of the Sneaking Suit...
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_a825da3e	comment	A Magic: The Gathering meta example occurred in 2015 when player Pascal Maynard made the top eight finals of the largest Grand Prix tournament in the game's history. In the top eight draft (where each player takes a card from a booster pack and passes the rest on), he was building a solid red/white deck when he opened his second pack to reveal a foil Tarmogoyf, worth $500 on the secondary market, but would not have fit his deck over the Burst Lightning that was also in the pack. He took the 'Goyf anyway and, though he lost in the semifinals, the publicity (both positive and negative) he got for picking the card enabled him to sell it on eBay for nearly $15,000... almost four times what the winner of the tournament won in prize money. He gave half the proceeds to charity.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_a91fda98	comment	Lampshaded by Gary in Traveler that both that year's champion and the previous one were longtime trainers with close to a decade experience each, yet no one even remembers latter. Meanwhile, Ash is a rookie with less than a year experience who made it all the way to second place.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ad8541c9	comment	Encyclopedia Brown: One story has a girl who deliberately wins second prize in a trivia contest, because she knows the watch that goes to the first-prize winner is broken. Another story has one of Encyclopedia's friends trying to finish last place in a race, figuring that the last-place finisher will get the most time with the media. Another girl had the same idea, so Encyclopedia has to prove she cheated by shooting a hole in her story about stopping near a theater to hear the music being played within—apparently, to know the actual name of the song they were playing (rather than a more common song with the same tune), she'd have had to have gone inside, and therefore off the race course.Side noteFor the record, the "clue" that solved the case for Brown wasn't even correct. He was right—she'd left the race course after two miles and only returned to the course for the last mile.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ae4ad177	comment	Cool Runnings: In the end, the Jamaican Olympic bobsled team ultimately loses the competition because of a faulty sled, but their determination allowed them to win the respect of both the crowd and the other Olympic teams.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_b2ac2311	comment	In You're the Greatest, Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown is competing in a decathlon, and comes in last in the first event, the 100-meter dash. To Charlie Brown's confusion, Peppermint Patty tells he did great since in the decathlon, he is running against tables that evaluate performance on points. In this case, the winner, Freddie Fabulous, ran such a fast race that all the competitors got good points, which means even Charlie Brown got off to a good start in the competition. Averted in "A Boy Named Charlie Brown": Charlie makes it to second place in the national spelling bee (national, mind, and he would have gotten first if he had remembered how to spell "beagle"). He is utterly devastated and nobody cares to point this fact out in the aftermath (the best Linus can think of when he attempts to give Charlie a speech to lighten him up is to point out that, yeah, he became an embarrassment to all of his friends because he lost... but still, "the world didn't come to an end").
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_b4fe32c9	comment	Invader Zim features an episode like this, where Zim and Dib compete for selling candy (as each believes that the secret grand prize will allow him to win over the other). Zim wins, but the grand prize is literally nothing. No one expected anyone to actually sell that many.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_b7475bcb	comment	In Out of the Dust, protagonist Billie Jo is pleased and proud of herself for winning third prize in a Talent Contest with her piano playing, since she's less than a year removed from a horrific freak accident that left her hands so badly burned she wasn't sure she'd ever be able to play again. One contestant who didn't win a prize tries to suggest that the panel just gave Billie Jo the prize to be nice due to her story, but the other competitors disagree and say that she won it fairly.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ba3d2748	comment	At the end of The Incredibles, Dash competes in the school race and comes in second, to the overwhelming cheer of his family. Given that he has super speed, coming in first would have been too easy, but being able to control himself enough to nail second spot is an accomplishment — as well as giving up the chance for attention and fame at school for being the winner.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ba91ae7a	comment	The first Rocky and Rocky Balboa. They bookend the saga with this trope. In the first movie, he's trying to make a name for himself and prove to the world that he belongs. In the last, he wants one last great fight so he can retire with honor. In each he loses by decision against a heavily — and rightfully — favored undefeated opponent, but the moral victory was in having gone the distance.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_bb307f73	comment	Another story has one of Encyclopedia's friends trying to finish last place in a race, figuring that the last-place finisher will get the most time with the media. Another girl had the same idea, so Encyclopedia has to prove she cheated by shooting a hole in her story about stopping near a theater to hear the music being played within—apparently, to know the actual name of the song they were playing (rather than a more common song with the same tune), she'd have had to have gone inside, and therefore off the race course.Side noteFor the record, the "clue" that solved the case for Brown wasn't even correct. He was right—she'd left the race course after two miles and only returned to the course for the last mile.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c0d295c4	comment	A meta example in Team Fortress 2: the Meet Your Match update included a "war" event where players could choose between Heavy and Pyro; the winner would receive an update first. Pyro won, and with the Jungle Inferno update, the class received four weapons... all of which are, for one reason or another, of questionable utility. Meanwhile, the Heavy received as a "consolation" prize the Second Banana, a powerful lunchbox item that's equally as useful as the fan-favorite Sandvich.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c24091cf	comment	In the How to Train Your Dragon fanfic Learning To Fly, Astrid and Hiccup both compete in the All-Viking Tournament at an annual meeting of the various Viking tribes. Despite being considered underdogs due to their smaller size (and Hiccup's peg leg) they both make their way into the finals, a four-person melee. Hiccup and Astrid each manage to defeat their respective opponents, and find themselves facing each other as the finalists. When he realizes that Astrid had broken her arm during her bout, but that she's still holding her axe in her good hand, Hiccup drops his sword, ceding the match to Astrid. Stoick congratulates Hiccup on taking the honorable route rather than attacking an injured opponent. Considering that he didn't expect to make it past the first round, Hiccup was quite pleased with his performance.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c25dfa59	comment	In Toon Struck, there is a mini-game where you're required to win a fish. Top prize is actually useless - you need the second-best sole to proceed.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c4282b71	comment	My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic: With one exception, any time the ponies take part in a competition they'll never win. However, they will either learn a lesson or otherwise be happy with the result nonetheless. A variation of type 3 occurs when Twilight enters the Running of the Leaves marathon in "Fall Weather Friends", despite never having run a race before. She's rather happy at achieving fifth place, a very respectable placing for a first-time racer. Meanwhile, favorites Applejack and Rainbow Dash get so caught up sabotaging each other that they end up tied for dead last, teaching them not to let their personal rivalry get in the way of what they're doing in the first place. "The Show Stoppers" features the Cutie Mark Crusaders putting on a serious musical number only to win the prize for Best Comedy Act. They're disappointed for all of a minute before declaring that their special talents must lie in comedy. Happens again in "Sisterhooves Social", where Rarity and Sweetie Belle compete together in a race, and end up getting second place. They don't win, but the fact that they worked together and did so well helps them reconnect at the end of a Feud Episode. In "May the Best Pet Win", Rainbow Dash holds a race to determine which of a group of critters will be her new pet. One of the contestants is a tortoise, whom Rainbow Dash allowed to compete only at Fluttershy's insistence. However, the tortoise manages to impress Rainbow Dash by being the only pet to stop and help her when a rock slide causes her wings to get pinned under a heavy boulder. So even though the tortoise ends up dead last, Rainbow declares him the winner on the grounds that she said earlier that the winner would be the one who crossed the finish line with her. In "The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000", Applejack and her family take on a cider-making contest with two brothers and their cider making machine. Despite the Flim Flam brothers looking like they will win, the Apples refuse to compromise the quality of their product and end up losing. However, due to the brothers' rush for quantity, they sent their quality down the tubes and ruined their own plans after none of the ponies would buy their bad cider, proving the Apples' integrity the right way to go. Rainbow Dash's hopes of a world record as part of a special task given to Ponyville's Pegasi are finished before they begin in "Hurricane Fluttershy" due to several ponies she needs falling sick. However, Rainbow perseveres and they complete the task they set out to do, despite having to abort getting the record. Played with in "Brotherhooves Social", which also features the Sisterhooves Social event. Big Macintosh - a stallion who disguises himself as female cousin Orchard Blossom - completely steamrolls the competition and wins him and Apple Bloom first place... only to have wrecked the course and get disqualified on top of being outed for his disguise, which gives second place the victory. However, when Apple Bloom confronts Big Macintosh for his actions, he and Apple Bloom have one of the series' most heartwarming heart-to-heart conversations about how he wants to be seen as a hero again when he feels Applejack has taken the spotlight as one of the heroes of Equestria. Apple Bloom confirms and consoles her big brother, and the two's relationship is better than ever. In "Equestria Games", though Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy and Bulk Biceps ultimately place silver in the relay race, they're still happy with the result. It helps that Ponyville still had the highest medal count at the end, and Rainbow Dash had accepted from the start that beating the Wonderbolts was a long shot.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c7e67e3a	comment	The Moonstone Cup: Twilight figures that she won't win the eponymous Moonstone Cup', given that no one has ever won from her age division. Trixie berates her for such a defeatist attitude. Despite the fact that it was her strategy too, as one of the entrants was an undefeated wolf god who considers himself a peer to Celestia and Luna — whom Twilight narrowly defeats in the final.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_c8da904d	comment	Team Sugo Asurada from Future GPX Cyber Formula does not expect much of a success. After all, their racing crew is consists of only handful of True Companions which barely fills the pitlane and a 14-year-old driver who had no experience in racing. That Hayato finishes third or fourth a number of times makes them more happy than people who get a win, much to Randoll's confusion.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ca48bb5c	comment	Fable: Winning second place in the fishing or chicken-kicking competitions nets you a rare Silver Key, which provides access to unique artifacts and is necessary for 100% Completion. For first place, Your Reward is Clothes, specifically a novelty hat.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_cb6abea3	comment	The Duelist Kingdom tournament in Nothing Is Sacred actually has three prizes. The winner can receive a cash prize of three million yen, or an even greater prize by defeating Maximillion Pegasus. However, if one doesn't desire money and has no interest in facing a mind reader in the game he literally created, then the third set of prizes hidden on the island will be the most appealing: two Legendary Planet cards.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_cbb87f37	comment	Stone Fox has a tragic double subversion. Willy and his dog are about to win the sled dog race until the latter dies from a heart attack. However, the titular rival convinces him to cross the finish line anyway and makes sure none of the other racers do.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_cd662714	comment	An episode of Fantasy Island had Tattoo spend a lot of money trying to win second prize in a jingle contest (a fur coat - not to wear but to give to a pretty lady of his choosing). Unfortunately, he won the much grander first prize: a trip to Fantasy Island.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_d5c33582	comment	PokÃ©mon the Series: XY: Ash enters with his three Flying-Type PokÃ©mon Fletchinder, Hawlucha and Noibat the PokÃ©mon Sky Ralley contest, a contest where a team of three flying (or levitating or gliding) PokÃ©mon are doing a race. They become the runner-up, since the newborn Noibat just learned how to fly during that contest... which is the point why they entered the tournament in the first place: to motivate Noibat to learn flying. Ash, Hawlucha and Fletchinder are more than happy that Noibat finally learned it and they forget the fact that they lost the ralley. Though Ash ultimately lost at the finals during the Lumiose Conference, he fares better than the actual victor, Alain. During the League ceremony, Team Flare launch their attack upon Lumiose City. Alain, being involved with Team Flare, suffers the worst kind of loss when he realizes that his entire goal was a lie, and his boss Lysandre only cares about power, ignoring Mega Evolution in favor of a potentially more powerful Bond Phenomenon that Ash possesses. In the aftermath of the Flare crisis, Ash is constantly recognized and praised by young trainers as the Conference League finalist while Alain quietly rebuilds his life with Prof. Sycamore, and privately admits Ash to be the superior trainer. Since the League ceremony wasn't finished when Team Flare attacked, it is heavily modified and officially makes everyone who stood against Lysandre champions of the Kalos League, rendering the League results moot.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_d5fcae4e	comment	In the finale of Ted Lasso, AFC Richmond comes from behind in their final match to get the win they need to potentially win the English Premier League, a triumphant victory even though they end up with second place because they also needed Man City to lose its final match, which they did not. However, finishing in second also gives the club its first ever place in the UEFA Champions League, which is considered an impressive achievement in of itself for a smaller Premier League squad like Richmond.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_d8f7ed7c	comment	John Putnam Thatcher: In Going for the Gold, Olympic skier Dick Noyes comes in second to last in his event, but is perfectly content, as he sees qualifying in the first place as a sufficient achievement.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_d9c602eb	comment	In the South Park episode "The Losing Edge", the entire South Park Little League baseball team hates playing baseball, finding it excruciatingly boring, and only play it because their parents make them. When they make it into the playoffs, they start actively trying to lose all their games so that they won't have to waste their whole summer playing. Unfortunately, every other team also hates baseball just as much as they do, and are better at purposely losing.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_d9c7aae2	comment	Bring It On: In the first film, the protagonist's cheer squad is guaranteed a trip to the national competition as they're the defending champions. However, after learning that their previous captain stole the winning routines from a rival squad, they decide to play fair and develop their own routine. When the rival squad manages to raise funds to compete in the national competition themselves, the protagonists knew they'd be runners-up at best. Lampshaded when the love interest asks the protagonist how she feels about coming in second place. "It feels like first."
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_dc217e32	comment	In PokÃ©mon Reset Bloodlines, Ash is perfectly happy with coming in second place in the Battle Dome Tournament for several reasons. 1) He only barely lost. 2) One of his opponents had six gym badges to his three because one of his technically counts as eight. 3) It's hardly the first time he's failed to win a tournament, even if it's the first time in this timeline.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_dc72c82f	comment	In Fallen London, you can compete in a "Shroom-hopping" contest. If you win, you gain a fair amount of money-type items (that are available in many other places too). If you don't win, you gain "Second Chances", powerful items that let you retry failed challenges. If you come in second place, you gain some money items (not as much as first place) and also the Second Chances. This means coming second place will often be much more desirable than first.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_e1c17f2e	comment	2 Stupid Dogs once had the main characters go on a game show called Let's Make a Right Price, where they continuously won first prize (money, a sports car, etc.) when what they really wanted was the consolation prize (a box of dog biscuits).
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_e25322af	comment	Homestar Runner In the 100th Strong Bad Email, "flashback," Homestar and Strong Bad have a ten-step footrace to determine who gets a giant egg. Homestar, being a terrific athlete with longer legs than Strong Bad, easily wins, leading the Prince of Town to declare "And the duckie-man is the winner! Loser gets the egg!" And that's how Strong Bad met his The Cheat. The Videlectrix game Kid Speedy has you playing as an obese boy and only concerned with placing at least third in a four-man race. In this case, there's no penalty at all for getting second or first (though you won't be getting first unless you play as Homestar Runner); it's just that third is all you need to continue (and often all Kid Speedy can manage.)
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_e2cb4c1	comment	In the graphic novel Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment, Strange and Doom are the first- and second-place finishers in a contest of mages to determine the title of Sorcerer Supreme. Strange wins/retains the title, and an obligation to do a favor for the person who finished second. He's not pleased. Doom, on the other hand, is only too happy to have Strange in his debt. Fortunately for Strange, Doom simply wants his help to free his mother's soul from Mephisto. It's implied that Doom entered the contest knowing he wouldn't win, just to get the favor. Strange, who would've done this even without being under an obligation, asks why Doom went to such trouble. Apparently asking for help would be a bigger blow to Doom's Pride than finishing second place (which is itself something Doom definitely does not like).
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_e593545e	comment	There's an interesting variation in Catan: When initially setting up the board, each player places two settlements. The order in which the settlements are placednote The players go around the table placing one settlement each, then go around the table in reverse order and place another settlement each. usually means that the first player gets the best and worst locations, the second player gets the second-best and second-worst, and so on. Some players prefer to go last in the order, as there can be some tactical advantage in having two "average" locations and being able to place both settlements at once, like being able to select potentially better first resources. (The players get free resources as their second city would produce. While the first players have to scramble for location, the last can place his both cities in any order). As the endgame approaches, anyone emerging as a clear leader tends to run into difficulties as the others refuse to trade with them, build roads and settlements with an eye toward cutting off their opportunities, and target them with the robber. The result may be similar to the Munchkin example above.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_e9a1371c	comment	In episode 7 of Bowser's Kingdom, Hal and Jeff enter the Villains Olympics to win the money to buy a TV. However, they end up in 2nd place and get the cash prize. The winners ended up in Yoshi's Island where hungry Yoshis try to eat them and third place got a lifetime supply of milk, but Petey was lactose-intolerant.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ec19bd89	comment	One Saiyuki Reload omake chapter has the Sanzo party enter a local martial arts tournament for a 1 million yen cash prize. The four quickly beat their way to the top, with Sanzo and Hakkai becoming the finalists. At that point it doesn't really matter who wins, as they'd all share the prize money anyway but someone does have to win, and they'd probably earn more bragging right. However, just before the final round starts, both Sanzo and Hakkai notice that the champion would have to wear an embarrassing outfit when they are crowned, and both feign illness and withdraw from the tournament. Since Goku is disqualified for accidentally hitting the referee during his fight with Sanzo, Gojyo is crowned the winner, to his mortification and his teammates' amusement.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ec25a849	comment	In Doug, Doug Funnie helps his football team score a touchdown. This does not win the game — indeed, the game is so lopsided that it's been long over — but the fact that they scored at all is a humongous victory, breaking a long string of shutouts against their unstoppable rivals.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_edac271f	comment	Talent competition shows like American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance and America's Next Top Model, where contestants compete for high-profile contracts or starring acting roles, often have losing competitors who still impress enough people that it benefits their careers. On America's Next Top Model, contestants often do better finishing anywhere outside of first. Fan theory holds that the contestant eliminated in third place is the most likely to be successful, as CoverGirl (the show's longest-running sponsor) cares less about "actual model potential" than protecting their image. As the show has declined and become increasingly campy, former contestants take the risk of being turned down due to "guilt by association," so being unmemorable is a good strategy. On Over The Rainbow, where actresses competed for the starring role in Andrew Lloyd Webber's musical adaptation of The Wizard of Oz, some of the losing competitors ended up playing Dorothy in later productions anyway.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ee6c1abc	comment	In the 100th Strong Bad Email, "flashback," Homestar and Strong Bad have a ten-step footrace to determine who gets a giant egg. Homestar, being a terrific athlete with longer legs than Strong Bad, easily wins, leading the Prince of Town to declare "And the duckie-man is the winner! Loser gets the egg!" And that's how Strong Bad met his The Cheat.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ef6880c5	comment	The third variation of this trope features in Long Live the Queen, during the tournament in which Princess Elodie herself can choose to enter any of the events (including archery, fencing, jousting, and falconry). How well Elodie can do in these events depends on the skills she has acquired from her lessons in the year up to that point, and, as a result of still being relatively new to them, she won't actually place first in them even if you have the relevant skill(s) maxed out. Placing well does still raise the commoners' opinion of her, however, as she still exceeds their expectations in that case. The only exception to this is the music contest, which is possible for her to win if she has both the Instrument and Voice skills maxed out.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_f35861b0	comment	In MySims Kingdom, Barney enters the Wandolier contest and aims for second prize, a toaster oven. If one pays attention to him and the only other competitor, Princess Butter, Barney does seem to be giving a Do Well, But Not Perfect performance: he will 'search' for the Mana chests in the first mission, and occasionally take his wand out and wave it in the later ones. Contrast Butter, who does nothing and expects her father to give her the win, and the player, for whom this is a Tutorial Level.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_f6da9a18	comment	Sgt. Frog has the 1st beach comedy contest. Keroro enters to get a Gundam knockoff (because it's really rare due to poor sales). He doesn't find out that it's a consolation prize for everyone who doesn't win until near the end, and he can't stop himself. He wins the first prize instead: a refrigerator.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_fc06747d	comment	This trope becomes literal in Troop Beverly Hills. Though the troop from Culver City, the "Red Feathers", finished first, they abandoned their injured leader along the way, so they were disqualified. The titular troop from Beverly Hills finished second—ironically, dragging the injured leader along with them—and were declared the winners of the competition.
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Second Place Is for Winners / int_ff9ab17f	comment	A similar scenario happened in an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation during Wesley's timed exam to enter Starfleet Academy. He took time out to help another candidate, but was pointedly not penalized for doing so.
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